Just seeing this brings back memories of my Late Grandmother Meredith Magoosh-Begay, I was the one sitting behind her workin on something and I am the one in Mescalero Apache Reservation to carry on the Yahnozha name. there are my Grandmothers in Laguna Pueblo who carry that name there also
Shii ndé nishlii, I live at Juárez, I read the book of Goodwin, he write that some people from San Carlos Apache Tribe travel to Juárez and here find people and speak to they in ndé biyat´i´ and here at Mehigu (Mexico) living many ndé, is true; and too say your ancestor, Yahnozha was jailed here, at Juárez, because he was drunk, Juárez es pura fiesta (Juárez is fun and party all time) and I read a write about your granmother Meredith, I know she, and you are descendent too of tha nant´an Magoosh and your grandma say true when she say that his grandpa tell to her, about ndé at San Luis Potosí and Zacatecas, some lipan travel to north of Zacatecas and San Luis Potosí, the more southern of ndé´i, other living Coahuila, Chihuahua and we are culturized, just some have relation with the culture and relatives in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, we are work for no lost all the culture, grettings.
Just so Amazing the thread of history yr great grandfather had, from the days of Victorio and Geronimo, to surviving the brutality of Japanese POW camp. Was Yahnozha related by marriage or anything to CrookNeck of the Lipan group?
The book is written by a Norwegian writer and legendary adventurer Helge Ingstad. He is dead now,- died about 6-7 years ago at the age of 101 ! He wrote the book : The Lost Tribe,- where he described his travel in 1931-32 from White River Apache reservation to Sierra Madre mountains in Mexico where he tried to find the last Apaches hiding in the mountains there. I followed his tracks and made two documentary films for the Norwegian Television.
I read that book, and lived with the Rarurame, or Tarahumaras, just to the south. I’d heard while working as a tour guide in Apache country, the Gila Cliffdwellings National monument…of Apaches living the old way through the 1910s, and of a young Apache Girl found in Sonora in THE 1930s…..What a wealth of tales. Wish I could’ve toured with you guys
How interesting that I'm a Chiricahua Apache, but my father was Badriver Ojibwe, Menominee and Norwegian descent, hence my name Ewell Fossum, Fossum came from Oslo, Norway.
It’s weird hearing her say at 2:40 “spoke Mexican.” Cuz a lot of apache families including mine were from Mexico and speak fluent Spanish . 😂 so it’s kinda funny hearing one say spoke Mexican lol.
I'm not Apache, I'm Diegueno or as the young one's call us Kumeyaay, Grandma looks a lot like my Aunt Nancy. My grandma was always in the kitchen, she felt more comfortable in her tiny kitchen lol. She told us many stories about being hidden in the caves at night so the Catholic Priests couldn't steal the kids. The priests would steal kids between the ages of 5 and 17 to use as slaves to build the San Diego missions.
I think there are several points that Helge Ingstad makes about this. Similarities in the language and stories that old apaches told him , - that also are part of their myths. (Telling that they came from the North). ... Could be, but nobody realy knows !
I mean it’s all in the language, you can draw a line from the Athabaskans in Canada and Alaska, thru the Kuakiutl on the NW coast, into Navajo country, and finally the Dnai' or Apache. They all have a strong relationship linguistically. Of course they say they originated in their present homeland….I like to think it’s their molecular structure , which DOES originate in the Corn and deer of Ariz, New Mex, and old Mexico!
Just seeing this brings back memories of my Late Grandmother Meredith Magoosh-Begay, I was the one sitting behind her workin on something and I am the one in Mescalero Apache Reservation to carry on the Yahnozha name. there are my Grandmothers in Laguna Pueblo who carry that name there also
Shii ndé nishlii, I live at Juárez, I read the book of Goodwin, he write that some people from San Carlos Apache Tribe travel to Juárez and here find people and speak to they in ndé biyat´i´ and here at Mehigu (Mexico) living many ndé, is true; and too say your ancestor, Yahnozha was jailed here, at Juárez, because he was drunk, Juárez es pura fiesta (Juárez is fun and party all time) and I read a write about your granmother Meredith, I know she, and you are descendent too of tha nant´an Magoosh and your grandma say true when she say that his grandpa tell to her, about ndé at San Luis Potosí and Zacatecas, some lipan travel to north of Zacatecas and San Luis Potosí, the more southern of ndé´i, other living Coahuila, Chihuahua and we are culturized, just some have relation with the culture and relatives in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, we are work for no lost all the culture, grettings.
Just so Amazing the thread of history yr great grandfather had, from the days of Victorio and Geronimo, to surviving the brutality of Japanese POW camp. Was Yahnozha related by marriage or anything to CrookNeck of the Lipan group?
The book is written by a Norwegian writer and legendary adventurer Helge Ingstad. He is dead now,- died about 6-7 years ago at the age of 101 ! He wrote the book : The Lost Tribe,- where he described his travel in 1931-32 from White River Apache reservation to Sierra Madre mountains in Mexico where he tried to find the last Apaches hiding in the mountains there. I followed his tracks and made two documentary films for the Norwegian Television.
I read that book, and lived with the Rarurame, or Tarahumaras, just to the south. I’d heard while working as a tour guide in Apache country, the Gila Cliffdwellings National monument…of Apaches living the old way through the 1910s, and of a young Apache Girl found in Sonora in THE 1930s…..What a wealth of tales. Wish I could’ve toured with you guys
How interesting that I'm a Chiricahua Apache, but my father was Badriver Ojibwe, Menominee and Norwegian descent, hence my name Ewell Fossum, Fossum came from Oslo, Norway.
It’s weird hearing her say at 2:40 “spoke Mexican.” Cuz a lot of apache families including mine were from Mexico and speak fluent Spanish . 😂 so it’s kinda funny hearing one say spoke Mexican lol.
I’m from whiteriver (wmat) and nobody speaks Spanish there
@@undeadsniperrr4455 But exist the Nakaiyé clan, maybe now no speak spanish, but before, yes
@@undeadsniperrr4455 look up the lipan band on UA-cam. All the videos they are speaking Spanish lol
My great grandmother nana Geronimo Lincoln New Mexico my great grandfather’s Pacheco Geronimo Revolt 1680
I'm not Apache, I'm Diegueno or as the young one's call us Kumeyaay, Grandma looks a lot like my Aunt Nancy. My grandma was always in the kitchen, she felt more comfortable in her tiny kitchen lol. She told us many stories about being hidden in the caves at night so the Catholic Priests couldn't steal the kids. The priests would steal kids between the ages of 5 and 17 to use as slaves to build the San Diego missions.
I think there are several points that Helge Ingstad makes about this. Similarities in the language and stories that old apaches told him , - that also are part of their myths. (Telling that they came from the North). ... Could be, but nobody realy knows !
I mean it’s all in the language, you can draw a line from the Athabaskans in Canada and Alaska, thru the Kuakiutl on the NW coast, into Navajo country, and finally the Dnai' or Apache. They all have a strong relationship linguistically. Of course they say they originated in their present homeland….I like to think it’s their molecular structure , which DOES originate in the Corn and deer of Ariz, New Mex, and old Mexico!
@@davidhlnda Diné know we settled in Dinetah
People don’t realize but Mexicans are native Americans
Please, dont use a livespan at 6-7 years to a person....., especially to Helge!