Hi! Has anyone worked out how dodge rate works? I'm going to guess dodge rate has to be higher than the enemy hit rate. And the amount left is calculated how?
We don't know the specifics. But dodge is very strong, and it seems to check once per ability. Although that isn't confirmed, it would mean that if you could take multiple ticks of damage from one ability, you will dodge them all.
I accidentally got devout on my Daevela (F) today (was gambling on trying to get a trait trasnferred over off of a mythic Aeson) so I'm curious how it'll work. I know its not optimal, but will help boost my Lumes (m)'s healing even more for the time being. So gonna be fun to try out until I get a 18+ brutal to overwrite it on.
Thanks again for this video Rage! Helpful! Nevertheless, it's been weeks that I'm trying to move traits from myth to another. Success is poor considering... Time invested!... Why the hell did they make such Traits transfer soooo complex and soooo looooong?????!!!!! This is definitely frustrating!!! Is their idea is to make us work on 1 perfect team during YEARS??!! Sorry but my patience has limit... Especially considering my work. It reminds me of Dungeon Hunter 5... Where I spent months and energy for small results at the end. Nothing for you Rage who demonstrated Soo many skills in your videos!!!👍👍👍 But I had to say something 😅 Thanks again
Sorry. I find it very easy to transfer a specific skill from one hero to another. If they are of different rarities (rare to mythical) it is 100% chance of coming, if it is from mythical to mythical it is 50%, but it is still very easy. There are several videos on youtube that show this.
Hexproof for under 20m is great as a counter for f daev. Also any champion that can stun is very helpful. F ignus/m tide for instance. However I could argue because they stun Hexproof is not needed, but it helped me greatly when I was below 20m and shouldn’t be counted out. (Helped specifically with f daev)
Few questions. First, are they going to fix F Daevala? If not, i will have to do everything to get a mystic and pump her up, because i have a real good team, but a level 360 Daevala by herself wipes my entire team every time. If they are not going to fix her, what would be the best traits for her? All damage? Lastly, i want to resist going the F Daevala route - but what 2 characters would help me counter her? Or is it simply next to impossible.
I think m yivnian is the best counter and stuns are second best. The f lux can be great there because it stops her for so long. Maybe a good pyromancer team with f ignis carry?
Can you do a lifestealer build video? I've tried to put a lvl13 bestial on my epic female Ugrull, but it doesn't perform very well. In comparison I have an epic female Tidestorm with a lvl8 cutthroat and that seems to be healing more. Not sure how I could get the max out of them. Although only the Ugrull is in my main team with a female Daevala, male Lume, male Tidestorm and a male Sallyhorn.
Lifesteal traits aren't very good, but lifesteal abilities can be really good. Bestial is basically totally worthless. Cut throat does help a bit. But I feel like there are better options.
Am I missing something or is Lion-Heart _always_ worse than Fierce (assuming you can only fit one)? Gradually building up to 15% vs 23% right from the start? I wonder if that balance is the same for the lv22 versions.
I haven’t tested yet, but I guess Foolhardy trait can be useful for boss fight. Foolhardy trait, which boost the damage done by attacking while the target has more than 80% constitution , is good as the bosses in Guild Raid have high Hp and HP bar. Anyone tried it?
If you're putting agile and focused on every other character it's fine. Although, I think if you don't have hulking on the team, I would put that instead of honorable.
I feel like Eagle-eyed is a trap on male Daevala. Stacking up to 10% doesn't feel good enough and I'd rather have Agile to build up ultimates, thus more actives thus more crits and i can't run both because i need my other defensive trait (still testing Loyal and Honorable) along with Brutal and Energetic On the other hand, maybe i won't have to worry about defensive traits as much if i put an upcoming Orost with taunts
I could see him using brutal energetic agile and focused. But remember. Just because I suggest a best use of a thing (in this case eagle eyed) it doesn't mean I think it's the best thing. He shouldn't need 2 defensive based on his base stats, but there's more than one thing that hasn't been working on him and I think he's still broken even though they've said it's fixed.
If you do a tank trait video can you find out what the difference is between "incoming damage reduced" and "Total Damage reduction"? Because it sounds like the first is nerfing enemy damage, while the second is a buff to damage reduced by Fortitude. (Fortitude isn't much in this game, so it sounds like the first is better.) This would also explain why the Sallyhorn buff has a random chance to work compared to Honorable.
@@RagepandaONE The reason I ask because the wording appears too consistent across the game for them to be the same thing. Some of the Dungeon relics make the same distinction. Anyways, you'll probably hear about a Dev AMA before I do.
That's actually an interesting thought and I will consider it further. I bet it could be. Depends what he needs for traits, and I'm thinking he has the kind of build that wants focused and agile.
Energetic and brutal for sure, you can decide if you want bigger shields and a team buff using aggressive and hulking or fast ults with agile and focused
@@RagepandaONE thanks thanks!! and sorry for this :x I feel a bit lost with the team composition i dont know: 1 tank 1 mage 1 Supp 1 Warrior 1 Range , our 2 tanks etc =/ The basic composition because I don't spend money on the game
( Warning!!, this message is extremely salty.)Yeah, i don't know man. Nothing i do seems to matter. I put agile on everyone in my team and the other team attacks faster, i debuff thier energy gain rate and they get thier ultimate first anyway, i do no damage despite having brutal and fierce on everyone, literally everyone does insane amounts of damage to me, and I'm usually massacred within 4-5 seconds despite having energetic and the other will still be 5 strong with nary a scratch. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of feeling like this games personal punching bag. And these are teams with less might than my own. I've decided i will not be returning to VOC or descent until they make some major changes. Both game modes seem to be there just to punish me.
I know how frustrating that can be. For now focus on getting extremely high vigor on at least a couple characters. Make sure you gear is enhanced, and make sure your traits are all at least level 18. When you have all that if you're still losing more than half of your battles you may need to look at positioning and team make up. I'm working on the vigor for my own characters at the moment.
@@RagepandaONE honestly i think it's more the game is programmed to constantly pit players up against other players that make them seem weak so they'll go spend money at the shop. So no matter how much stronger i get i will never be pitted against other players i can actually be competitive with.
Most people will wait till until they are in a VoC and use saved materials to boost their team then, I got in at a 150k~ team and had to push it to 250k just to compete(On a completely F2P char)
"If you can kill 1 or 2 people in the first 10 seconds, then your probably going to win", hehehehe unless theres a broken daev :P
That is fair lol
Hi! Has anyone worked out how dodge rate works? I'm going to guess dodge rate has to be higher than the enemy hit rate. And the amount left is calculated how?
We don't know the specifics. But dodge is very strong, and it seems to check once per ability. Although that isn't confirmed, it would mean that if you could take multiple ticks of damage from one ability, you will dodge them all.
@@RagepandaONE interesting. So it doesn't also dodge basic attacks? Just abilities? Thinking of maxing my assassin's tree dodge
I believe it dodges both, but having the dodge apply to an entire multihit ability can be great!
I accidentally got devout on my Daevela (F) today (was gambling on trying to get a trait trasnferred over off of a mythic Aeson) so I'm curious how it'll work. I know its not optimal, but will help boost my Lumes (m)'s healing even more for the time being. So gonna be fun to try out until I get a 18+ brutal to overwrite it on.
Super helpful i appreciate it. Thank you very much
You're most welcome!
Thanks again for this video Rage! Helpful!
Nevertheless, it's been weeks that I'm trying to move traits from myth to another. Success is poor considering... Time invested!...
Why the hell did they make such Traits transfer soooo complex and soooo looooong?????!!!!! This is definitely frustrating!!!
Is their idea is to make us work on 1 perfect team during YEARS??!!
Sorry but my patience has limit... Especially considering my work.
It reminds me of Dungeon Hunter 5... Where I spent months and energy for small results at the end.
Nothing for you Rage who demonstrated Soo many skills in your videos!!!👍👍👍 But I had to say something 😅
Thanks again
Many people have complaints, but my conversations with Goat Games reps has left me feeling confident that these growing pains will be ironed out soon.
Sorry. I find it very easy to transfer a specific skill from one hero to another. If they are of different rarities (rare to mythical) it is 100% chance of coming, if it is from mythical to mythical it is 50%, but it is still very easy. There are several videos on youtube that show this.
Hexproof for under 20m is great as a counter for f daev. Also any champion that can stun is very helpful. F ignus/m tide for instance. However I could argue because they stun Hexproof is not needed, but it helped me greatly when I was below 20m and shouldn’t be counted out. (Helped specifically with f daev)
I recommend hex proof on a lot of Champs. Especially when other clan traits aren't available
Few questions. First, are they going to fix F Daevala? If not, i will have to do everything to get a mystic and pump her up, because i have a real good team, but a level 360 Daevala by herself wipes my entire team every time. If they are not going to fix her, what would be the best traits for her? All damage? Lastly, i want to resist going the F Daevala route - but what 2 characters would help me counter her? Or is it simply next to impossible.
I think m yivnian is the best counter and stuns are second best. The f lux can be great there because it stops her for so long. Maybe a good pyromancer team with f ignis carry?
Can you do a lifestealer build video? I've tried to put a lvl13 bestial on my epic female Ugrull, but it doesn't perform very well. In comparison I have an epic female Tidestorm with a lvl8 cutthroat and that seems to be healing more. Not sure how I could get the max out of them. Although only the Ugrull is in my main team with a female Daevala, male Lume, male Tidestorm and a male Sallyhorn.
Lifesteal traits aren't very good, but lifesteal abilities can be really good. Bestial is basically totally worthless. Cut throat does help a bit. But I feel like there are better options.
Am I missing something or is Lion-Heart _always_ worse than Fierce (assuming you can only fit one)? Gradually building up to 15% vs 23% right from the start? I wonder if that balance is the same for the lv22 versions.
Yeah it's always worse.
I haven’t tested yet, but I guess Foolhardy trait can be useful for boss fight. Foolhardy trait, which boost the damage done by attacking while the target has more than 80% constitution , is good as the bosses in Guild Raid have high Hp and HP bar. Anyone tried it?
I think the issue for me is that brutal fierce aggressive and lionheart would all be better over the course of the fight.
@@RagepandaONE true. Your shares for this game is absolutely awesome. Appreciate your work.
So would Agile, Focused, Energetic, and Honorable be good for F Lionstone?
If you're putting agile and focused on every other character it's fine. Although, I think if you don't have hulking on the team, I would put that instead of honorable.
I feel like Eagle-eyed is a trap on male Daevala. Stacking up to 10% doesn't feel good enough and I'd rather have Agile to build up ultimates, thus more actives thus more crits
and i can't run both because i need my other defensive trait (still testing Loyal and Honorable) along with Brutal and Energetic
On the other hand, maybe i won't have to worry about defensive traits as much if i put an upcoming Orost with taunts
I could see him using brutal energetic agile and focused. But remember. Just because I suggest a best use of a thing (in this case eagle eyed) it doesn't mean I think it's the best thing. He shouldn't need 2 defensive based on his base stats, but there's more than one thing that hasn't been working on him and I think he's still broken even though they've said it's fixed.
@@RagepandaONE Actually this build sounds disgusting on female....need to farm Focused XD
It is very stupid on her lol especially with vigor
Thanks. Just started playing and was kind of lost.
If you do a tank trait video can you find out what the difference is between "incoming damage reduced" and "Total Damage reduction"? Because it sounds like the first is nerfing enemy damage, while the second is a buff to damage reduced by Fortitude. (Fortitude isn't much in this game, so it sounds like the first is better.) This would also explain why the Sallyhorn buff has a random chance to work compared to Honorable.
It's extremely likely that those mean the same thing and the translation is subpar. I'll ask around.
@@RagepandaONE The reason I ask because the wording appears too consistent across the game for them to be the same thing. Some of the Dungeon relics make the same distinction. Anyways, you'll probably hear about a Dev AMA before I do.
F lion best build perhaps ( sanguine/hulking/inventive/energetic) assuming you don’t use a lume, and a fulgur. (I don’t)
can you make an video of your thoughts about male solihorn?
It's on the list
Do you think Vengful might work well with the Male Minotaur since he has an aoe taunt + shield?
That's actually an interesting thought and I will consider it further. I bet it could be. Depends what he needs for traits, and I'm thinking he has the kind of build that wants focused and agile.
Sadly late game, with high star champions athletic and healthy are not so helpful. Which you did explain 😉 ❤
What u recommend for Ugrull F ?
I think she needs ults as often as possible to survive, so maybe energetic, brutal, agile and focused
@@RagepandaONE thanks, and u have any idea for Lionstone M? the Traits
Energetic and brutal for sure, you can decide if you want bigger shields and a team buff using aggressive and hulking or fast ults with agile and focused
@@RagepandaONE thanks thanks!! and sorry for this :x
I feel a bit lost with the team composition
i dont know: 1 tank 1 mage 1 Supp 1 Warrior 1 Range , our 2 tanks etc =/ The basic composition because I don't spend money on the game
Can help me ?
( Warning!!, this message is extremely salty.)Yeah, i don't know man. Nothing i do seems to matter. I put agile on everyone in my team and the other team attacks faster, i debuff thier energy gain rate and they get thier ultimate first anyway, i do no damage despite having brutal and fierce on everyone, literally everyone does insane amounts of damage to me, and I'm usually massacred within 4-5 seconds despite having energetic and the other will still be 5 strong with nary a scratch. I'm getting pretty sick and tired of feeling like this games personal punching bag. And these are teams with less might than my own. I've decided i will not be returning to VOC or descent until they make some major changes. Both game modes seem to be there just to punish me.
I know how frustrating that can be. For now focus on getting extremely high vigor on at least a couple characters. Make sure you gear is enhanced, and make sure your traits are all at least level 18. When you have all that if you're still losing more than half of your battles you may need to look at positioning and team make up. I'm working on the vigor for my own characters at the moment.
@@RagepandaONE honestly i think it's more the game is programmed to constantly pit players up against other players that make them seem weak so they'll go spend money at the shop. So no matter how much stronger i get i will never be pitted against other players i can actually be competitive with.
Most people will wait till until they are in a VoC and use saved materials to boost their team then, I got in at a 150k~ team and had to push it to 250k just to compete(On a completely F2P char)
I think that has to do with total might and campaign progress. A lot of people have stopped campaign completely
@@ironangel667 if it's a game's thing, then what about me that win almost evrytime against player well superior to me in might ?
18 inspiring is 12.25% buff
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