I have severe ADD but I actually sat trough this video with only skipping 1 minute tops, this guy is talking a shit ton but everything is gold and he is very witty in most of his videos, pretty much the only guy I come to information and not feel like puking blood while ripping my face off from the immense boredom I had to endure.
Holy crap, this video is great. I mean, I have 2 teams that are between 12 and 13m power, and I had never thought of using commons to guarantee getting inherent traits.
A couple things that might help, for the first couple of stats if you match stats on the main champion to the spouse champion you can save vigor. Every time you drop a trait from the giver from 18 down to 1 you lose vigor potential. if you match the other way you lower a trait you’re just going to upgrade later anyway
Also any of the new clans cannot be acquired from regular game play (stores, explore, prisoners etc…) so if you’re able to keep their companions green it’s easier to block clan traits.
Morning.... If you're new. Try to keep a 1 star companion at green rarity and that will allow you to move traits much easier. I would suggest Sallyhorn. Your Gryphon you will want for districts and trait fodder. This isn't necessary, but will be a HUGE ring saver in the future especially if you're f2p and don't buy bouquets and rings. They frontload resources in this game and they dry up around mid game. Yes Rage said all of this but it's so important it needs to be repeated. ......This is what wins games....
Problem with making the Gryphin mythic is that you have very few tank materials, so if you keep Sally the only trait fodder it will overlap with your already limited tank materials, which is really bad news. I did a huge mass ascension upgrade not too long ago, and Sally fodders run out in no time flat and I couldn't ascend my tank(s) properly. And I was already using the Gryphin as trait fodder.
regarding the vigor farm - I'm doing pretty much what you said, but with a slight adjustment: if I have a vigor 5 or 6 Travain it usually ends up capping one stat without gain, that's when I either flip who I'm marrying or build up a second vigor 5/6 character to marry. With level 22 traits on Travain's it takes 3 marriages to hit vigor 5 (sometimes 6 depending on the rolls). Then just marry those champions that already have 5/6 vigor together and you can save on rings for a vigor 20 fodder. I had done the math before and it took me roughly 15 marriages for ~level 20. I might have to double check but that's how I've been doing it ever since I worked out how that system works. And yes, it's all about the 'overfilling' of the stat bars that ends up costing you a ton of champions
when you open the royal hall, if you lock all your main champions usually the champion with the highest vigor will be close to the top. hit the "choose their spouse" box first click the champion you've been using to build visor and marry to a fresh hero the new hero will then get all the vigor plus the regular vigor. then take the champion you just made use it as the spouse and marry to a new hero. This way vigor is always going to a hero with no vigor blocks. If you have a really bad ratio of males to females you can feed the side that has fewer so that you're trading into a 3 vigor champion.
Agree, This was awesome. Explains pretty much exactly what happened to me when I tried this recently. Already knew thanks to discord community but nice to see it in action anyway.
I swear with everything he spoke of in each of his vids goat has made a change to and improved the game based of what he's spoken of, he's like the guiding light of improving the game and making the community delighted with each improvement
I'd like to add my own approach: DO NOT ever go for the clan trait as the 1st, 2nd or 3rd trait you want to transfer. ALWAYS leave it as the last trait. Reason being is, if you only transfer a single clan trait and use the normal traits in the other 3 slots, which in my case is Energetic, Brutal and Fierce, you can guarantee all of the traits without gambling. If you transfer the clan trait before you fix all the other NORMAL traits, you will have to waste your ascension materials (contrary to leaving it last, which only uses 1), which in the case of a 3 star champion can get a little too pricey. Or you'll have to gamble like in the above case. Now it may not sound bad at first, but you also have to take into consideration that for the second round of gambling, you'll still have to marry SOME of the traits to the spouse to increase your chances to get the trait you want, which in the long run will cost you more rings. The only problem with my approach is that you need more trait fodder and things like energetic, brutal and fierce will be running low if you are fixing multiple champions in quick succession. If you wish to transfer 2 clan traits, I would still advise to go for the normal traits first, then depending which other clan traits you want, go for the more common one. It gets more complicated for sure, but wastes the least amount of resources. Oh and I forgot to mention. When you are selecting the spouses that you want to transfer traits from, make sure you pick the ones that have the most matching traits by default or will end up with them. For example if a spouse already has 2 of the 3 common traits you generally want: energetic, brutal and fierce, or has all of them, you want them to go 2nd or 3rd or even maybe 4th. Spouses that only have 1 of the above, but otherwise have 1 or multiple other matching traits should go 1st or 2nd, depending of course on the number of matchings. It is a bit tedious at first, but will save some resources in the long run.
I find it easier to put clan traits on first, starting with the one that's easiest to find a green copy. if you're using the 1 star feeder clan method to get your 22 level brutal and energetics, you're only sacrificing a 1 star mythic champion which you were probably going to sac for vigor any way. if the trait doesn't go I say thanks for the vigor and try again. also it allows you to use up you one star greens with cutthroat to match the crap traits you haven't switched yet.
@@Phate698 If you put on the clan trait first, you can't guarantee the other traits or have to sacrifice ascension fodders. And it's not like people are always swimming in hundreds of max level common traits to gamble away. As per my personal experience, the amount of times I gambled successfully is reall, really low... And sure, a 1 star trait fodder is cheap, but then again, can you guarantee you'll get the trait you want? Can you guarantee it will be max level? Can you guarantee your gamble will be successful? It will be just more time consuming and eating away resources for no reason. Yes, yes you want vigor anyway, does that mean you want to put a ton of vigor on the character right away? Not necessarily.
I agree with you if you’re trying to get everything in one shot, I used that method early on. I consider 3 stars ascension fodder and 1 stars vigor fodder. I’ll make a stack of 1star mythic gryphons anything that has the trait I’m looking for gets a chance to pass it on. Anything that doesn’t get used in the vigor grinder, if it doesn’t work I make a new batch. I never use a 3 star unless I’m transferring a clan trait.
On transferring traits and Vigor... it *can* make a difference. if your champion has 1 lvl 22 trait, but the others are 20 that champion will give *slightly* less vigor than a champion with all lvl 22 traits. The transfer itself does *NOT* affect vigor level, *but* if you do transfer the traits that means the new champion will give slightly more vigor to who they marry when used as vigor fodder. This makes NO difference if you just keep marrying a non-vigored champion in for the vigor, but if you "chain" your vigor gains it can make a noticeable benefit. i.e. if you take a champion and marry 7 warriors with lvl 20-22 traits, you will often end with between 8 to 10 vigor level. But if you chain the marriages (marry fodder A to fodder B, fodder C to D, then AB to CD, while transferring higher lvl traits) the end vigor level is 9 or 10... you will only get 8 if VERY very unlucky. It does take more work (as your marriages will try to use the previous 'block traits' to increase chances of getting the higher lvl trait) and it is a VERY small benefit (usually 1%-3% difference in stats) but it can be done... basically, the vigor gained is based entirely off the TOTAL of all trait levels (plus current vigor of fodder). So, a 0 vigor w/ all lvl 22 traits (110 total) tank gives health 18662-27993, attack 335-504, fortitude 126-190... but the same champion w/ two lvl 22 and two lvl 20 traits (106 total) gives: health 18144-27216, attack 327-491, fortitude 122-184. since this gives a randomized stat boost. Once a champion has vigor it becomes more difficult to see the changes as the vigor numbers gained factor in as well, but it is still clear that the trait lvls matter, but transferring traits for a vigor farm ONLY matters *if* you are doing chained marriages. As far as which is better, chained marriages or 0 vigor fodder marriages... that's all luck, as the amount of vigor from chained marriages has a higher minimum and higher average, but lower maximum than the equivalent number of 0 vigor fodder marriages, but the 0 vigor marriages can get you higher (by as much as 30% higher) *if* you get lucky and get the higher stat boosts each marriage, but you also risk as much as 20% lower increase (for large marriages, about 30) than a chained marriage.
So, to create a character for marriage, you only need to use two green characters. Then, even if it is not the desired feature, it will be at least at a high level.
So if I get my daevala to 15 star but I have a lv 18 clan trait I will be stuck at lv18 forever. I think you should mention that in a future video bro. 😊💙
good video...one question how often is the summon evnt..i play now since 27 days and safed 200 scrolls. Now we have catacomb event. is it worth to give diamonds here for scrolls or better invest in intimicity?
question they're some traits that state for ex. ( this effect can't be removed nor stacked) Fulgur (Hulking) does this only effect the same family trait like having 2 hulking on 2 of your characters in the same group or does Hulking and lets say Sanguine don't stack because they're doing the same thing just worded differently basically does Hulking and Sanguine stack or no
Little confused on vigor farm. So I start by marring within say the warriors own class on a 1 star. Then marry as many other 1 star warriors to them to boost vigor. Finally then marry the boosted champion to a mystic warrior I’m trying to boost and it will transfer the vigor on to it. Sorry I am dyslexic and this is confusing already.
You'll be marrying the mythic champions each time. Each time you'll marry the child to a new mythic gryphon and it'll stack a bunch of vigor onto one champion. Then you can marry that stack of vigor to whoever needs a big vigor boost!
I didn't want to make this post but I'm going to make it. I played Evony for 2 years and I spent $5,000 on my account. If bloodline starts to make their game like Evony I will quit immediately
I've a problem This is my 2nd week playing this game And I've all the companions at rare.... Like literally rare Like how am i supposed to like transfer the traits in 1 go Like with common it's easier cuz only 2 spots and travain it's ez But I've rare And it's harder I don't wanna waste my rings Any solutions?
Honestly the easiest solution would be to switch servers and keep some companions at common. If you haven't spent a lot of money on it you will be surprised how much faster you get your account ready the second time.
Depends if the rest of your team wants the enemy to be grouped up. If you have many AoE attacks then I would stay tide unless you are also using m simir or m dravapala
Thx for the answer, my team is F Lionstone M Simir F daevala F gultung F Fulgur/ M Aeson I want to switch for one big dps and also F Fulgur doesn’t fit with M simir,
I've been running them together and one shotting teams with lightning ball. In order to do that you need to keep her out of the back line. But m gultung would work great in her spot too!
I have severe ADD but I actually sat trough this video with only skipping 1 minute tops, this guy is talking a shit ton but everything is gold and he is very witty in most of his videos, pretty much the only guy I come to information and not feel like puking blood while ripping my face off from the immense boredom I had to endure.
lol thanks!
I have a tip for you, uncheck the "notify subscribers" box when you upload shorts, your views are gonna skyrocket. Thanks again.
Very cool and very clear. Best marriage video out!
Holy crap, this video is great. I mean, I have 2 teams that are between 12 and 13m power, and I had never thought of using commons to guarantee getting inherent traits.
LOVE THE WEBSITE! And all the videos. Super helpful for us FTP folks, man! Keep up the work!
Thanks, I will 😀
A couple things that might help, for the first couple of stats if you match stats on the main champion to the spouse champion you can save vigor. Every time you drop a trait from the giver from 18 down to 1 you lose vigor potential. if you match the other way you lower a trait you’re just going to upgrade later anyway
Also any of the new clans cannot be acquired from regular game play (stores, explore, prisoners etc…) so if you’re able to keep their companions green it’s easier to block clan traits.
Morning....
If you're new. Try to keep a 1 star companion at green rarity and that will allow you to move traits much easier.
I would suggest Sallyhorn. Your Gryphon you will want for districts and trait fodder.
This isn't necessary, but will be a HUGE ring saver in the future especially if you're f2p and don't buy bouquets and rings.
They frontload resources in this game and they dry up around mid game.
Yes Rage said all of this but it's so important it needs to be repeated.
......This is what wins games....
Solid tip!
Problem with making the Gryphin mythic is that you have very few tank materials, so if you keep Sally the only trait fodder it will overlap with your already limited tank materials, which is really bad news. I did a huge mass ascension upgrade not too long ago, and Sally fodders run out in no time flat and I couldn't ascend my tank(s) properly. And I was already using the Gryphin as trait fodder.
regarding the vigor farm - I'm doing pretty much what you said, but with a slight adjustment: if I have a vigor 5 or 6 Travain it usually ends up capping one stat without gain, that's when I either flip who I'm marrying or build up a second vigor 5/6 character to marry. With level 22 traits on Travain's it takes 3 marriages to hit vigor 5 (sometimes 6 depending on the rolls).
Then just marry those champions that already have 5/6 vigor together and you can save on rings for a vigor 20 fodder. I had done the math before and it took me roughly 15 marriages for ~level 20.
I might have to double check but that's how I've been doing it ever since I worked out how that system works. And yes, it's all about the 'overfilling' of the stat bars that ends up costing you a ton of champions
when you open the royal hall, if you lock all your main champions usually the champion with the highest vigor will be close to the top. hit the "choose their spouse" box first click the champion you've been using to build visor and marry to a fresh hero the new hero will then get all the vigor plus the regular vigor. then take the champion you just made use it as the spouse and marry to a new hero. This way vigor is always going to a hero with no vigor blocks. If you have a really bad ratio of males to females you can feed the side that has fewer so that you're trading into a 3 vigor champion.
Thank you I could not make heads or tails of how to do this i just gambled. Now I have more clarity I need the Step by Step !!!!
Agree, This was awesome. Explains pretty much exactly what happened to me when I tried this recently. Already knew thanks to discord community but nice to see it in action anyway.
Goat better put you on the payroll 👀👍
Ha I wish. I'm sure they don't like that I call them out on their BS though. Generally that's on stream these days so we can all talk about it.
I swear with everything he spoke of in each of his vids goat has made a change to and improved the game based of what he's spoken of, he's like the guiding light of improving the game and making the community delighted with each improvement
@@jahiemparker5748 I agree. I've been getting lag issues in pvp specifically. I hope they sort that out it's my biggest peeve atm 😕
Absolutely fire vid. Learned multiple things I hadn’t already and I’d say I’m one tier below top comp. Maybe two. I’m competing in 50 mil teams
Thanks 😊
I'd like to add my own approach:
DO NOT ever go for the clan trait as the 1st, 2nd or 3rd trait you want to transfer. ALWAYS leave it as the last trait. Reason being is, if you only transfer a single clan trait and use the normal traits in the other 3 slots, which in my case is Energetic, Brutal and Fierce, you can guarantee all of the traits without gambling.
If you transfer the clan trait before you fix all the other NORMAL traits, you will have to waste your ascension materials (contrary to leaving it last, which only uses 1), which in the case of a 3 star champion can get a little too pricey. Or you'll have to gamble like in the above case. Now it may not sound bad at first, but you also have to take into consideration that for the second round of gambling, you'll still have to marry SOME of the traits to the spouse to increase your chances to get the trait you want, which in the long run will cost you more rings.
The only problem with my approach is that you need more trait fodder and things like energetic, brutal and fierce will be running low if you are fixing multiple champions in quick succession. If you wish to transfer 2 clan traits, I would still advise to go for the normal traits first, then depending which other clan traits you want, go for the more common one. It gets more complicated for sure, but wastes the least amount of resources.
Oh and I forgot to mention. When you are selecting the spouses that you want to transfer traits from, make sure you pick the ones that have the most matching traits by default or will end up with them. For example if a spouse already has 2 of the 3 common traits you generally want: energetic, brutal and fierce, or has all of them, you want them to go 2nd or 3rd or even maybe 4th. Spouses that only have 1 of the above, but otherwise have 1 or multiple other matching traits should go 1st or 2nd, depending of course on the number of matchings. It is a bit tedious at first, but will save some resources in the long run.
I find it easier to put clan traits on first, starting with the one that's easiest to find a green copy. if you're using the 1 star feeder clan method to get your 22 level brutal and energetics, you're only sacrificing a 1 star mythic champion which you were probably going to sac for vigor any way. if the trait doesn't go I say thanks for the vigor and try again. also it allows you to use up you one star greens with cutthroat to match the crap traits you haven't switched yet.
@@Phate698 If you put on the clan trait first, you can't guarantee the other traits or have to sacrifice ascension fodders. And it's not like people are always swimming in hundreds of max level common traits to gamble away. As per my personal experience, the amount of times I gambled successfully is reall, really low...
And sure, a 1 star trait fodder is cheap, but then again, can you guarantee you'll get the trait you want? Can you guarantee it will be max level? Can you guarantee your gamble will be successful? It will be just more time consuming and eating away resources for no reason.
Yes, yes you want vigor anyway, does that mean you want to put a ton of vigor on the character right away? Not necessarily.
I agree with you if you’re trying to get everything in one shot, I used that method early on. I consider 3 stars ascension fodder and 1 stars vigor fodder. I’ll make a stack of 1star mythic gryphons anything that has the trait I’m looking for gets a chance to pass it on. Anything that doesn’t get used in the vigor grinder, if it doesn’t work I make a new batch. I never use a 3 star unless I’m transferring a clan trait.
I would say this is splitting hairs. Both methods come to the same result.
Nicely done, sir. Thx!
On transferring traits and Vigor... it *can* make a difference. if your champion has 1 lvl 22 trait, but the others are 20 that champion will give *slightly* less vigor than a champion with all lvl 22 traits. The transfer itself does *NOT* affect vigor level, *but* if you do transfer the traits that means the new champion will give slightly more vigor to who they marry when used as vigor fodder.
This makes NO difference if you just keep marrying a non-vigored champion in for the vigor, but if you "chain" your vigor gains it can make a noticeable benefit.
i.e. if you take a champion and marry 7 warriors with lvl 20-22 traits, you will often end with between 8 to 10 vigor level. But if you chain the marriages (marry fodder A to fodder B, fodder C to D, then AB to CD, while transferring higher lvl traits) the end vigor level is 9 or 10... you will only get 8 if VERY very unlucky. It does take more work (as your marriages will try to use the previous 'block traits' to increase chances of getting the higher lvl trait) and it is a VERY small benefit (usually 1%-3% difference in stats) but it can be done...
basically, the vigor gained is based entirely off the TOTAL of all trait levels (plus current vigor of fodder). So, a 0 vigor w/ all lvl 22 traits (110 total) tank gives health 18662-27993, attack 335-504, fortitude 126-190... but the same champion w/ two lvl 22 and two lvl 20 traits (106 total) gives: health 18144-27216, attack 327-491, fortitude 122-184. since this gives a randomized stat boost. Once a champion has vigor it becomes more difficult to see the changes as the vigor numbers gained factor in as well, but it is still clear that the trait lvls matter, but transferring traits for a vigor farm ONLY matters *if* you are doing chained marriages.
As far as which is better, chained marriages or 0 vigor fodder marriages... that's all luck, as the amount of vigor from chained marriages has a higher minimum and higher average, but lower maximum than the equivalent number of 0 vigor fodder marriages, but the 0 vigor marriages can get you higher (by as much as 30% higher) *if* you get lucky and get the higher stat boosts each marriage, but you also risk as much as 20% lower increase (for large marriages, about 30) than a chained marriage.
Well that's some solid info there. Thanks!
Have you stopped playing Bloodlines and updating that wonderful site you have about it?
Unfortunately yes. I have stopped both.
@@RagepandaONE thank you. Just started playing that game and aleady thinking about leaving it too :P
So, to create a character for marriage, you only need to use two green characters. Then, even if it is not the desired feature, it will be at least at a high level.
I use green champs to help lock out traits but the desired trait that I ultimately transfer needs to come from a mythic
Thanks!
So if I get my daevala to 15 star but I have a lv 18 clan trait I will be stuck at lv18 forever. I think you should mention that in a future video bro. 😊💙
I’m a $$ gamer, I’d rather give it to u! Thanks for your work! I’ll be back.
Wow thanks! You're the best!
Thanks
Amazing job with the website bro make sure to update
I have a couple more to adjust after the crit update, but I'll do my best to keep up with it
@@RagepandaONE currently male gultang opens up with his traits but says fem lux in the background
Not galtang karguk my bad
good video...one question how often is the summon evnt..i play now since 27 days and safed 200 scrolls. Now we have catacomb event. is it worth to give diamonds here for scrolls or better invest in intimicity?
As a new account you probably want to get as many summons saved as possible for March 2nd. The daevala re-release
Well PANDA lol I guess I don't have to wait for daev to come out just pulled the female mythic just now and the gultan mythic too lol
Lol gratz!
@Ragepanda1 no lie panda no lie just after I posted that I got the male lume mythic so now I got more to ascend and build new team lol
The luckiest pulls!
Hey bro how to get babies with higher trait level more than level 18? I saw some one having trait level 22 in arena.
question they're some traits that state for ex. ( this effect can't be removed nor stacked) Fulgur (Hulking) does this only effect the same family trait like having 2 hulking on 2 of your characters in the same group or does Hulking and lets say Sanguine don't stack because they're doing the same thing just worded differently basically does Hulking and Sanguine stack or no
Different traits stack. Copies do not. 😀
Don’t care how it looks as long as it is brutal. ❤
So I got trait that I wanted, but it’s lvl1. How to lvlup it?
sad that u didnt update the website QAQ
Little confused on vigor farm. So I start by marring within say the warriors own class on a 1 star. Then marry as many other 1 star warriors to them to boost vigor. Finally then marry the boosted champion to a mystic warrior I’m trying to boost and it will transfer the vigor on to it.
Sorry I am dyslexic and this is confusing already.
You'll be marrying the mythic champions each time. Each time you'll marry the child to a new mythic gryphon and it'll stack a bunch of vigor onto one champion. Then you can marry that stack of vigor to whoever needs a big vigor boost!
@@RagepandaONE That last part cleared it up for me. Thanks.
I didn't want to make this post but I'm going to make it. I played Evony for 2 years and I spent $5,000 on my account. If bloodline starts to make their game like Evony I will quit immediately
Keep us warned of the dangers
I've a problem
This is my 2nd week playing this game
And I've all the companions at rare....
Like literally rare
Like how am i supposed to like transfer the traits in 1 go
Like with common it's easier cuz only 2 spots and travain it's ez
But I've rare
And it's harder
I don't wanna waste my rings
Any solutions?
Honestly the easiest solution would be to switch servers and keep some companions at common. If you haven't spent a lot of money on it you will be surprised how much faster you get your account ready the second time.
What's the name of the Website? I can't find it in a Google search.
Ragepanda1.com 😀 I'll have to work on that SEO
Which side of the vigor chart is the champ and which one the spouse?
I've always read it as the main champions on the left. But I didn't make the chart 😕
Does anyone know what’s the max level of a champion? I’m at 600 and I can still upgrade… I’m going crazy here 😭😭
It's 700. So weird lol. But 15 stars is max
I don’t get how yours are mythic lol mine are rare or common.
wish i had more male mythics = l
how to build to M lux?????
Step one: open dumpster
Step two: insert m lux
Step three: ignite fire
😂😂
M TIDESTORM OR M GULTUNG PLEASE 😅 ???
Depends if the rest of your team wants the enemy to be grouped up. If you have many AoE attacks then I would stay tide unless you are also using m simir or m dravapala
Thx for the answer, my team is F Lionstone M Simir F daevala F gultung F Fulgur/ M Aeson
I want to switch for one big dps and also F Fulgur doesn’t fit with M simir,
I've been running them together and one shotting teams with lightning ball. In order to do that you need to keep her out of the back line. But m gultung would work great in her spot too!
@@RagepandaONE thx for the answer !
Is it possible to unite a same-sex couple?