Philip Eisner is a 40k fan and he acknowledged this. Event Horizon is an unofficial prequel to 40k and it is a story of how humanity discovered the Warp
Event Horizon is Warhammer 40k inspired movie. It really is like humanity's first encounter with the Warp. Bricky did get some of the timeline mixed. First was The Cybernetic Revolt (AI rebellion) and as the Revolt came to an end the Warpstorms began starting the Age of Strife. The Eldar debauchery made a huge build up of psychic energy in the Warp that caused the Warpstorms. At the end of the Age of Strife the Emperor had unified Terra under his rule and the Slaanesh was born. All the psychic energy formed from the Eldar debauchery that had formed the Warpstorms coalesced as the Warp entity known as Slaanesh. Now all the Warpstorms were cleared and the Emperor started the Great Crusade. C'tan, also pronounced as Sa'tan but I think many just think that is bit too on the nose and pronounce it like Bricky. The C'tan are not Warp entities, they to my knowledge were formed from the Big Bang and they weren't much more than aloof beings of energy with some intelligence that just existed and ate energy from stars. The Necrontyr somehow became aware of their existence and made them artificial bodies. Now the energy of the C'tan were concentrated and their minds more attuned to the reality. Souls in Warhammer 40k are psychic energy or field that connects you with the Warp. Of course there is something special about sentient beings souls since daemons want them so it can't be just psychic energy. There are rare human referred as Blanks but also known as the Soulless or Blacksouls. They have no connection to the Warp or could be desrcibed as Anti-psychic. This usually triggers an uncanny valley reaction in normal people. This can vary from mild discomfort to "I don't know what that is but I need to either kill it or run away". They are also very valuable for the fact that they nullify all psychic abilities on certain area. They are either made into Assassins or join the Sisters of Silence. They sisters are the ones that transport the Psykers that are sacrificed to prolong the Emperor's life. Blank to a psyker is equivalent to an eldritch horror for us. I went on a ramble but I can't really help it with being a Warhammer 40k lore nerd.
I saw Event Horizon for the first time recently and made the same comparison with 40k warp travel and laughed. So in layman's terms they discovered warp travel before creating the geller field.
My understanding is that this is technically a myth and StarCraft has no direct link to 40k… However, I believe WarCraft was intended to be a Warhammer Fantasy game… There is an indirect connection that way, with StarCraft later being made as a Sci Fi version of WarCraft 2, I think… I don’t know if that idea was inspired by 40k or not, but it seems that the people doing most of the design claimed that they did not know about Warhammer and 40k at the time… While this seems a bit odd given the Warhammer Fantasy connection, there was some time between these games being made, so who knows? Also, while I love 40k, let’s not pretend it’s highly original… StarCraft arguably only has a few shallow similarities and many of those could have been inspired by various other things too…
@cybercas3000 Not Starcraft, not really. It is very heavy "inspired" by 40K. But Blizzards Warhammer game to be was Warcraft as a Warhammer Fantasy game.
I always thought this myself but it's not true. It's a very well spread myth, still a cool idea and it fits. Starcraft is so much like Warhammer visually
My, your on the verge of a very deep rabbit hole that is 40k 😄 Also recommend checking out "Bricky's Factions explained" Oh also "Movies that inspired warhammer" by Rouge Hobbies
you should definetly watch Bricky's every faction explained video, It's somewhat easy to understand. i would also recommend his every space marine legion if that interest you.
Glad you enjoyed this! Bricky is the master of drip feeding you the essentials without overwhelming you, perfect for newcomers and he does it in an entertaining way. The Warp is basically a dimension of psychic energy where all our thoughts and emotions manifest, psykers can tap into it to perform magic but unless they have a particularly strong will, it leaves them vulnerable to corruption or possession by the forces of chaos. Necrons are one of my favourites too, I mean they're just as evil as everyone else but they did seem to get the short end of the stick compared to other empires whose downfall was mostly of their own making. Adepta Sororitas though, wait until you learn about them! They take zealotry and devotion to a whole new level 😇🙏 I recognise some of the music he used from the OSTs of the WH40k games Darktide and Mechanicus, love those, very inspiring, really makes me want to pick up a lasgun and die for my emperor in the first 5 seconds of battle on a nameless planet alongside millions of my brothers as we get eaten alive by giant space bugs.
Bricky makes for good viewing and yep, you absorbed the core info very well. The thing to remember is that 40K is in it's 5th decade and it's lore is being endlessly tweaked, so every lore video over 2 years old will undoubtedly have some inaccuracies, but it doesn't really matter. As mentioned in other comments, check out Bricky's guide to 40K factions and you'll get a good overview of all the races. For a newbie, Bricky can throw you off a little when he injects his 40K videos with little 'in jokes' or brief asides for the fans- just power through anything you don't immediately understand. There is also a rich treasure trove of 40K animations both official (like game intros or promotional material) and fan made. Astartes was one of the best, which I see piqued your interest in the universe, I hope you look into it further!
everyone is gonna tell you a bunch of videos to watch, and most of them are just gonna make you more confused. since you've seen this video, watch his "every faction explained" vids, and his "every space marine legion" vid, before you watch anything else. If you get into Lueten's vids this soon youre just gonna be more confused, cuz he includes small irrelevant details and repeats himself just to make his vids longer lol. he's a really good narrator tho and yes, Starcraft is a rip-off of 40k
Yeah, the 'every faction explained' videos are a little inaccurate and out of date now, but it's still a fun watch and a remain probably the best videos to get a sense of 40k in general. A lot of Luetin's stuff is speculation (which is fine, it's a lot of what 40k is about). I get why people are into it, but its not really designed to clarify anything, kind of the opposite if anything. They're more for people already neck deep in the lore. For a more concise and straightforward approach to 40k lore the Arbitor Ian videos are pretty good.
welcome Guardsman, you just entered a really deep and grimdark Rabbit hole. Grab your Lasgun and check out more Imperial Truth Videos like Bricky's "Every WH40K Faction explanied", "every WH40k Space Marine Legion explained", followed by Luetin09's "The Rise of Humanity / The emperor of Men" and finally "If the Emperor has a Text to Speech device."
13:25 pretty late to the video but can still be relevent, in 40k the soul is like the thing that make a sentient lifeform experience emotions. it's a cluster of all your feelings and tought. and if it's taken, you're still you but emotionless, unable to feel anything, like a good old psychopath... this is why the soul goes to the warp at death, cause the warp is the amalgam of aaaaallll thought and emotion of all sentient being in the universe...
you probable might have watched it but there's a little bit at the end of Bricky's video after the 29:39 mark in his vid that you missed off the reaction, if you haven't watch the end you may want to go back and watch the last little bit
First off in 40k everyone can be a hero or a villain and kind of 40ks thing is everything has a shade of evil to it. Even the Tau who are the nicest faction in the fiction would be the bad guys if you put them into Star Trek or Star Wars. But, I think you got a bit confused on the Necrons. They committed genocide on the Old Ones because the Old Ones didn't want to give them immortality. Yeah, it's not really cool not helping them but that's a huge overreaction. The guys that turned them into robots where the Star Gods and they only got to do that because the Necrons decided to make a deal with that devil. On top of all of that, the Necrons only went to war in the first place because the Silent King wanted to unify their people through a greater threat. So yeah, Necrons are massive jerks. But that's everyone in 40k pretty much. Still, next to the humans and the Eldar they are a sad race. Also, the soul thing is a bit different in 40k. It's more of this thing that is a living creature's prescience in the warp. Now the question of what happens to a soul after death or is it divine or not can vary a bit a soul is something some people can actually see. So, at the very least it's a gauge on how close you are to being a psyker.
The reason for the similarities with Warcraft is that Warcraft was heavily inspired by warhammer fantasy. HEAVILY. The original warcraft game was meant to be a warhammer game before games workshop pulled the IP.
I think you mean StarCraft and not WarCraft. StarCraft was ment to be a Warhammer game which is why the races in SC are so similar to the ones in Warhammer, with Protoss-Eldar, Zerg-Tyranids and of course Terran-Humans (Earth is even called Terra in Warhammer). The Power Armors of the Terran units also look a lot like Space Marines.
So couple things C'tan are gods of the tangible. They were called star gods because they loved in the physical realm and ate stars. C'tan were never from the warp. C'tan are not the chaos gods.
You asked, "What is a soul?" Well, it's complicated. And it's not always consistent. One thing to keep in mind with 40k is that a lot of the information given out is from unreliable narrators. From chaos gods manipulating information, to the Inquisition suppressing inconvenient facts, to Eldar trying to manipulate the future by controlling the present, to simple poor beurocracy leading to things being misfiled for a thousand years; nothing can be taken at face value or be considered the "definitive" answer. Talking about the Necrons is a great way to examine it, though. A soul is the manifestation of who you are as a person, minus your intellect and memory. It is your emotions, your psychic presence in both an ability to interact with and even perceive the Warp, your ability to appreciate art and music, the part of you that lives, dies, and then is reborn later. But there is also some sort of electromagnetic or otherwordly tangible resonance or power and substance applied to it. Like... if your body is a computer, then your soul is a program running on it. If you had a being that ate computer programs, then the computer itself would technically be fine afterwards, the hard drive would still have data on it, and it would be able to function to some degree. What happened to the Necrontyr, with the removal of their souls was like the difference between surgery, and vivisection. In one case, the patient lives. They (at least the nobility) were able to keep much of their personality, and some of their memories. They still have some emotions (they still have anger, jealousy, and disgust, at least), but something essential has been lost. They can no longer create art. Innovation is difficult. For the rank and file troops, they don't even have that much, and are essentially barely conscious zombies.Having lost all of who they were. If you like the Necron story of spite, revenge, and betrayal, there are a few really good novels. The Infinite and the Divine, is a dark comedy with a 10,000 year timeline as two Necron lords play a game of tit fot tat. And then there is The Twice-Dead King, parts 1 and 2. Charting the fall and rise of a dynasty through the eyes of a Lord with a self-inflicted multiple personality. All 3 are available as audiobooks, and the voicework is great.
When speaking of time within the warp it is there. It lacks a correlation with the normal space though. So if you spent 100 years within, 10k years may pass in real space.
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Yes Starcraft and Warcraft were supposed to be 40k and Warhammer Fantasy games. But they couldn't get the license, so they changed few names and voala. But they HEAVILY copied Warhammer, both 40k and Fantasy.
It was just Warcraft. They did agree to work with GW for a Warhammer Fantasy game but both sides where not happy with the progress, so they parted ways. There are interviews attesting to this, but the Starcraft thing has no real evidence besides hearsay. Which when you look at it makes it a bit worst on Blizzards part. I mean a big reason on the Warcraft thing falling through on the Blizzard side was they wanted an original IP. So, it feels like they just ripped off large chunks of both IPs to get their breakout hit. Not that GW can really talk on that but still.
its REALLY funny how many of the things you're complaining about being unoriginal were literally done by Warhammer first. Too many people think Warhammer didnt exist until 2010 or something.
‘So the necrons are the good guys?’
We don’t do that here
actually i think event horizon was inspired by warhammers warp travel since the IP is that old
Philip Eisner is a 40k fan and he acknowledged this. Event Horizon is an unofficial prequel to 40k and it is a story of how humanity discovered the Warp
Event Horizon is Warhammer 40k inspired movie. It really is like humanity's first encounter with the Warp.
Bricky did get some of the timeline mixed. First was The Cybernetic Revolt (AI rebellion) and as the Revolt came to an end the Warpstorms began starting the Age of Strife.
The Eldar debauchery made a huge build up of psychic energy in the Warp that caused the Warpstorms. At the end of the Age of Strife the Emperor had unified Terra under his rule and the Slaanesh was born. All the psychic energy formed from the Eldar debauchery that had formed the Warpstorms coalesced as the Warp entity known as Slaanesh.
Now all the Warpstorms were cleared and the Emperor started the Great Crusade.
C'tan, also pronounced as Sa'tan but I think many just think that is bit too on the nose and pronounce it like Bricky. The C'tan are not Warp entities, they to my knowledge were formed from the Big Bang and they weren't much more than aloof beings of energy with some intelligence that just existed and ate energy from stars. The Necrontyr somehow became aware of their existence and made them artificial bodies. Now the energy of the C'tan were concentrated and their minds more attuned to the reality.
Souls in Warhammer 40k are psychic energy or field that connects you with the Warp. Of course there is something special about sentient beings souls since daemons want them so it can't be just psychic energy. There are rare human referred as Blanks but also known as the Soulless or Blacksouls. They have no connection to the Warp or could be desrcibed as Anti-psychic. This usually triggers an uncanny valley reaction in normal people. This can vary from mild discomfort to "I don't know what that is but I need to either kill it or run away". They are also very valuable for the fact that they nullify all psychic abilities on certain area. They are either made into Assassins or join the Sisters of Silence. They sisters are the ones that transport the Psykers that are sacrificed to prolong the Emperor's life. Blank to a psyker is equivalent to an eldritch horror for us.
I went on a ramble but I can't really help it with being a Warhammer 40k lore nerd.
when you said who's the bad guy my first reaction was "Oh my sweet summer child oh how naïve you are "
I saw Event Horizon for the first time recently and made the same comparison with 40k warp travel and laughed. So in layman's terms they discovered warp travel before creating the geller field.
star craft was meant to be a 40k game but the GW had a fall out with blizzard or something
My understanding is that this is technically a myth and StarCraft has no direct link to 40k…
However, I believe WarCraft was intended to be a Warhammer Fantasy game… There is an indirect connection that way, with StarCraft later being made as a Sci Fi version of WarCraft 2, I think… I don’t know if that idea was inspired by 40k or not, but it seems that the people doing most of the design claimed that they did not know about Warhammer and 40k at the time… While this seems a bit odd given the Warhammer Fantasy connection, there was some time between these games being made, so who knows?
Also, while I love 40k, let’s not pretend it’s highly original… StarCraft arguably only has a few shallow similarities and many of those could have been inspired by various other things too…
@cybercas3000 Not Starcraft, not really. It is very heavy "inspired" by 40K. But Blizzards Warhammer game to be was Warcraft as a Warhammer Fantasy game.
I always thought this myself but it's not true. It's a very well spread myth, still a cool idea and it fits. Starcraft is so much like Warhammer visually
Welcome to 40k I’ve been addicted to it since the late 80s, it’s absolutely awesome.
Lovecraft popularized the eldritch old gods style that we always see.
My, your on the verge of a very deep rabbit hole that is 40k 😄 Also recommend checking out "Bricky's Factions explained"
Oh also "Movies that inspired warhammer" by Rouge Hobbies
you should definetly watch Bricky's every faction explained video, It's somewhat easy to understand. i would also recommend his every space marine legion if that interest you.
12:12 you need proper technology to enter and exit warp, but you can do it.
Glad you enjoyed this! Bricky is the master of drip feeding you the essentials without overwhelming you, perfect for newcomers and he does it in an entertaining way. The Warp is basically a dimension of psychic energy where all our thoughts and emotions manifest, psykers can tap into it to perform magic but unless they have a particularly strong will, it leaves them vulnerable to corruption or possession by the forces of chaos. Necrons are one of my favourites too, I mean they're just as evil as everyone else but they did seem to get the short end of the stick compared to other empires whose downfall was mostly of their own making. Adepta Sororitas though, wait until you learn about them! They take zealotry and devotion to a whole new level 😇🙏 I recognise some of the music he used from the OSTs of the WH40k games Darktide and Mechanicus, love those, very inspiring, really makes me want to pick up a lasgun and die for my emperor in the first 5 seconds of battle on a nameless planet alongside millions of my brothers as we get eaten alive by giant space bugs.
Bricky makes for good viewing and yep, you absorbed the core info very well. The thing to remember is that 40K is in it's 5th decade and it's lore is being endlessly tweaked, so every lore video over 2 years old will undoubtedly have some inaccuracies, but it doesn't really matter. As mentioned in other comments, check out Bricky's guide to 40K factions and you'll get a good overview of all the races.
For a newbie, Bricky can throw you off a little when he injects his 40K videos with little 'in jokes' or brief asides for the fans- just power through anything you don't immediately understand.
There is also a rich treasure trove of 40K animations both official (like game intros or promotional material) and fan made. Astartes was one of the best, which I see piqued your interest in the universe, I hope you look into it further!
everyone is gonna tell you a bunch of videos to watch, and most of them are just gonna make you more confused. since you've seen this video, watch his "every faction explained" vids, and his "every space marine legion" vid, before you watch anything else. If you get into Lueten's vids this soon youre just gonna be more confused, cuz he includes small irrelevant details and repeats himself just to make his vids longer lol. he's a really good narrator tho
and yes, Starcraft is a rip-off of 40k
Yeah, the 'every faction explained' videos are a little inaccurate and out of date now, but it's still a fun watch and a remain probably the best videos to get a sense of 40k in general.
A lot of Luetin's stuff is speculation (which is fine, it's a lot of what 40k is about). I get why people are into it, but its not really designed to clarify anything, kind of the opposite if anything. They're more for people already neck deep in the lore.
For a more concise and straightforward approach to 40k lore the Arbitor Ian videos are pretty good.
In the dark age of technology, humans had a ship that shot a torpedo that opened a time rift for thenselves to come from the future and help fight
Necrons are dope, you're off to a good start.
welcome Guardsman, you just entered a really deep and grimdark Rabbit hole. Grab your Lasgun and check out more Imperial Truth Videos like Bricky's "Every WH40K Faction explanied", "every WH40k Space Marine Legion explained", followed by Luetin09's "The Rise of Humanity / The emperor of Men" and finally "If the Emperor has a Text to Speech device."
Event Horizon is a brilliant comparison to Warhammer, many funs like to think that this movie is a good prequel to Warhammer 40k
13:25 pretty late to the video but can still be relevent, in 40k the soul is like the thing that make a sentient lifeform experience emotions. it's a cluster of all your feelings and tought. and if it's taken, you're still you but emotionless, unable to feel anything, like a good old psychopath... this is why the soul goes to the warp at death, cause the warp is the amalgam of aaaaallll thought and emotion of all sentient being in the universe...
you probable might have watched it but there's a little bit at the end of Bricky's video after the 29:39 mark in his vid that you missed off the reaction, if you haven't watch the end you may want to go back and watch the last little bit
First off in 40k everyone can be a hero or a villain and kind of 40ks thing is everything has a shade of evil to it. Even the Tau who are the nicest faction in the fiction would be the bad guys if you put them into Star Trek or Star Wars. But, I think you got a bit confused on the Necrons. They committed genocide on the Old Ones because the Old Ones didn't want to give them immortality. Yeah, it's not really cool not helping them but that's a huge overreaction. The guys that turned them into robots where the Star Gods and they only got to do that because the Necrons decided to make a deal with that devil. On top of all of that, the Necrons only went to war in the first place because the Silent King wanted to unify their people through a greater threat. So yeah, Necrons are massive jerks. But that's everyone in 40k pretty much. Still, next to the humans and the Eldar they are a sad race.
Also, the soul thing is a bit different in 40k. It's more of this thing that is a living creature's prescience in the warp. Now the question of what happens to a soul after death or is it divine or not can vary a bit a soul is something some people can actually see. So, at the very least it's a gauge on how close you are to being a psyker.
The reason for the similarities with Warcraft is that Warcraft was heavily inspired by warhammer fantasy. HEAVILY. The original warcraft game was meant to be a warhammer game before games workshop pulled the IP.
I think you mean StarCraft and not WarCraft.
StarCraft was ment to be a Warhammer game which is why the races in SC are so similar to the ones in Warhammer, with Protoss-Eldar, Zerg-Tyranids and of course Terran-Humans (Earth is even called Terra in Warhammer). The Power Armors of the Terran units also look a lot like Space Marines.
So couple things
C'tan are gods of the tangible. They were called star gods because they loved in the physical realm and ate stars. C'tan were never from the warp.
C'tan are not the chaos gods.
You asked, "What is a soul?"
Well, it's complicated. And it's not always consistent. One thing to keep in mind with 40k is that a lot of the information given out is from unreliable narrators. From chaos gods manipulating information, to the Inquisition suppressing inconvenient facts, to Eldar trying to manipulate the future by controlling the present, to simple poor beurocracy leading to things being misfiled for a thousand years; nothing can be taken at face value or be considered the "definitive" answer.
Talking about the Necrons is a great way to examine it, though.
A soul is the manifestation of who you are as a person, minus your intellect and memory. It is your emotions, your psychic presence in both an ability to interact with and even perceive the Warp, your ability to appreciate art and music, the part of you that lives, dies, and then is reborn later.
But there is also some sort of electromagnetic or otherwordly tangible resonance or power and substance applied to it. Like... if your body is a computer, then your soul is a program running on it. If you had a being that ate computer programs, then the computer itself would technically be fine afterwards, the hard drive would still have data on it, and it would be able to function to some degree.
What happened to the Necrontyr, with the removal of their souls was like the difference between surgery, and vivisection. In one case, the patient lives.
They (at least the nobility) were able to keep much of their personality, and some of their memories. They still have some emotions (they still have anger, jealousy, and disgust, at least), but something essential has been lost. They can no longer create art. Innovation is difficult. For the rank and file troops, they don't even have that much, and are essentially barely conscious zombies.Having lost all of who they were.
If you like the Necron story of spite, revenge, and betrayal, there are a few really good novels. The Infinite and the Divine, is a dark comedy with a 10,000 year timeline as two Necron lords play a game of tit fot tat.
And then there is The Twice-Dead King, parts 1 and 2. Charting the fall and rise of a dynasty through the eyes of a Lord with a self-inflicted multiple personality.
All 3 are available as audiobooks, and the voicework is great.
Now is the time for more warhammer reactions :D
When speaking of time within the warp it is there. It lacks a correlation with the normal space though. So if you spent 100 years within, 10k years may pass in real space.
I suppose you can say that the Warp has time (disassociated from reality as you say) but no entropy.
check out the other videos of him,more details
StarCraft guys like to a WH40k ones because StarCraft meant to be a 40k game at the beginning
Welcome to the hobby 😂
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Better is Emperor speak device...
this confused me seeing him, react to 40k lol
Necron's are noble!? Noble means good.
There are no good guys here.
Not old gods. The old ones. They werent gods. Just really weird frog people.
Yes Starcraft and Warcraft were supposed to be 40k and Warhammer Fantasy games. But they couldn't get the license, so they changed few names and voala.
But they HEAVILY copied Warhammer, both 40k and Fantasy.
It was just Warcraft. They did agree to work with GW for a Warhammer Fantasy game but both sides where not happy with the progress, so they parted ways. There are interviews attesting to this, but the Starcraft thing has no real evidence besides hearsay. Which when you look at it makes it a bit worst on Blizzards part. I mean a big reason on the Warcraft thing falling through on the Blizzard side was they wanted an original IP. So, it feels like they just ripped off large chunks of both IPs to get their breakout hit. Not that GW can really talk on that but still.
its REALLY funny how many of the things you're complaining about being unoriginal were literally done by Warhammer first.
Too many people think Warhammer didnt exist until 2010 or something.