@@noobgamer_x98 7:20 the lights are more than a second delayed to appear when you look at them. also, some of the ray tracing elements turn off when nearing the edge of the screen
They rushed the hell out of the Claw to compete against Steam deck and rog ally which was a huge mistake, thinking they can capture that market quickly. With Claw 7 / 8 AI they had no choice but go back to the drawing board and really have to think how to beat them. This was the result! So yeah, well done msi and intel!
Realistically, the only game I would like to see in ray traced is Minecraft because of the way the game is it’s not fast paced so you have time to stop and watch the graphics
You gotta try the old school Doom games in RT. I don't have the most powerful gpu, so RT has always been a mixed bag on AAA games. But those old ones with the updated engines? They look great, and they make Doom scary. Well, at least eerie.
The Claw 8 being the only Intel offering in the handheld space is about to be its big advantage. If Bazzite can get a port ready then I'll definitely be getting one of these.
Like for sure not really designed for cyperpunk 2077 but the fact that its running it so well speaks volumes to how far handheld pcs have came in the last few years!
@@aydendowdy6431 Ray tracing is on at all times. RTGI is required on all systems including the Series S as it's how the game des it's indirect lighting
Yup, even since last generation Intel ARC gpu's had significantly better ray tracing performance and this time Intel made another significant jump in their ray tracing cores with real world performance gains as seen in this video. I haven't heard of any updates to AMD's Ray tracing cores in RDNA 3 but I hope there's something in the HX 370.
Minecraft RTX is fully path traced so that's more impressive than you're giving it credit for. It shows how much better Intel's RT cores are over AMD's
@@peacelove8395 if $900 is too much it’s not for you but that doesn’t mean it’s not for somebody else. Ally x is $800 and this outperforms it in nearly every way.
This is actually amazing for a handheld! MSI has been really good to me after I switched from Asus PC parts due to price and quality. I may hold out for a Steam Deck 2, but MSI Claw is at the top of my shortlist to purchase, review and recommend right now.
It's cool but i'm holding out for Steam os to start dropping on handhelds. Legion go 2 is pretty much already confirmed to have a steam os version and windows handhelds are about to be a thing of the past. Save your money a little while longer folks
I’ve tried many times on my 258v laptop, and I can almost confirm that the increase from 25W to 30W for this chip brings almost no improvement. The additional power consumption is mostly allocated to the CPU, allowing it to run at higher frequencies to maintain smooth gaming performance.
i dont know why so many people cream over ray tracing. its such a waste of performance for very little visual if any difference. any game with decent baked in lighting its not even noticeable. i have a 4090 and never use it.
Missed opportunity to test Indiana Jones, that's the current baseline for RT gaming and many are interested if this can run that better as it might persuade them to buy this instead of the competition!
Is the Core Ultra Series 2 processors now the new go to laptop processor? Do we even need laptops with GTX 4060 or 4070s anymore? Especially since the Core Ultras come with Thunderbolt 4 and you can get discrete graphics when you need more power.
There will be Intel Panther Lake laptops with 3rd gen Intel ARC (Celestial) graphics by the end of 2025. And likely a new MSI handheld based on that chip for CES2026.
Yes you still want built in dGPUs. eGPUs still lose quite a bit of performance when in comparison not to mention the price of a gaming laptop will be cheaper than most handhelds + eGPU and without the performance drop
@@crestofhonor2349 true but I was really hoping the ulta 7 258v would be cheaper, but seems they are priced near the 4060 laptops. Only benefit should be size and power consumption.
Hey, on that 30fps in minecraft: did you try to test it on the charger? The intel graphics software has an "endurance gaming" thing which locks the fps to conserve energy
I wonder how the new claw performs with all the graphics settings maxed out, games that support unlimited frame rates always enabled, frame cap always off, ray tracing enabled with xess off, motion blur off, v sync off, and all the upscaling settings off with indiana jones and the great circle, cyberpunk 2077 and crysis remastered in full native resolution of the msi claw ai 8. I use these settings for every game even when using a 4k display from a laptop and a 4k external display. If there is a 4k display being used like a 4k tv and 4k gaming monitor like the 32 inch samsung odyssey neo g8 with its 4k mini led display with 240 hz, 1ms and 2,000 nits brightness maxed out all time with autobrightness always off, baklight maxed out and manual brightness at 100% 24/7 even at night for gaming I'm all for it 100%.
Errors in the video : "Xess frame generation" No. It's just xess upscaling. "Forza has raytracing set to ultra " It's only on via the garage. Ingame there is no raytracing.
Still going to do very well because the switch is far more mainstream than any PC handhelds. Switchsold more units in it's first year than the Steam Deck has total units
why aren't there any video's of intel v258 laptops or the msi claw 8 running bazzite ? is there no driver support ? you could be the first one to try if you don't already know why no one has done it that is i recall you already had lunar lake laptops on the chanel.
Great video like always. Please could you do a side by side split screen comparison against the rog ally x, Same settings and across a range of games so we can see FPS differences.
How long can you play? It's very impressive, I don't know what to buy now, I'm waiting for the legion go2 but this one has pretty good argument now that you show us. But the price is too expensive
Wait until summer. The price will have significantly dropped by then unless you really need something right now. The AMD counterparts will be in the same ballpark price wise, if not more expensive (despite no AI upscaling nor any decent RT perf).
Running XeSS at Auto from 1440x900 means youre running the game at 720x450 at best. It will continuously lower your base resolution to achieve the target framerate. It's easy to misrepresent the quality by recording it through a camera with the screen far away. But this would look like a mess up close and is a pretty unrealistic expectation to set for any handheld.
Wait, doesn't Ray Tracing in Forza Horizon 5 only work in Forza Vista? (which is where you can view the vehicles up close), I believe it doesn't actually turn on in normal gameplay, but correct me if I'm wrong
Seems to surpass the Z2 extreme which has been IMO the best for performance on windows for some time, however does this beat it on value and cost for what you get , im I think I will wait for at least a 40 to 60% jump in performance at same price point before I replace the Rog Ally.
Handheld pcs are a luxury. It would be better to invest that money in a better laptop/desktop if you're serious about playing games. 1 Steam Deck is more than enough for now.
@SWOTHDRA What's not a joke? An RTX laptop/desktop connected to a TV with a wireless controller which can handle games at HighOrAbove graphics. Even a PS5 will be better. Then you can get 1 handheld. I get that your LCD steam deck doesn't look good. But currently all the handhelds, even with OLED screens can't run the current games at low/medium graphics at 1080p. If you have the money for a second handheld and you think it's worth it, go for it.
But let's be honest: The timing was awful. Too late to be a christmas gift, too early to remain strong enough since the Z2E is basically just about to be released.
It seems the Z2E will not use rdna4 but 3.5, so its worse than the lunar lake on this device... Heck, the lunar lake one also have better power consumption, dunno if they could improve that on the z2e... but lets see.
Aside from a dedicated GPU, an equivalently spec'd laptop would come fairly close. 80Wh battery, 120hz VRR screen. Probably close to 2 hours of ray traced gameplay away from a wall. That could easily be worth 900 USD to the right person. This costs more, but I wouldn't say it is worse value than a Steam Deck. Pay more, get more.
Yes can you do an egpu set up with the Aoostar Dock?, that's is what I be using with my MSI Claw. Curious to see how it will perform with something like a RTX 4070 Ti Super
Hey ETA prime, been watching your content from a long time and i love it. I just wanted to ask that if you could test Beam Ng drive game on these handled devices, my brother loves that game and wants a handled and no one tests that game.
Please compare ray tracing ultra on cyberpunk both z1 extreme . Just like youdid on this claw . Please compare them . This is my question , important to me . The ray tracing on cynerpunk on this claw was insanely good... but i doubt ally x can perform like this on ultra rt . Also please add indiana jones , ally x can get 30 40 fps on low setting on 720p , what about claw ?
This is frankly false. The Claw still has likely worse RT performance. The issue is that you aren't comparing equal things. Indiana Jones on Xbox Series X has full RTGI on just like PC while running at 1800p and 60fps. Spiderman 2 has many surfaces with RT Reflections on both the buildings and water. . RT shadows aren't anything to look down upon anyways and they're still expensive. You're thinking of Cyberpunk and even on the Ally you can run Cyberpunk with RT local shadows on and still have decent performance
@@crestofhonor2349 Shadows is an excellent use of RT, but only one function. They cut RT features in Indian Jones to make RTGI work just like the choices they had to make with Cyberpunk of what RT features to cut. Open world RTGI is beyond the reach of the current gen consoles. That Indiana Jones engine is pretty impressive though it isn't running full RT, just global illumination. It is awesome because Cyberpunk cannot run reflections (as an example) on PS5 or Series X either...but this new claw can. Full RT Ultra at 30fps is really impressive for a handheld.
MSi Claw 8 Ai looks beautiful with that color design, RGB lights under joysticks, the Dragon wallaper and logo behind it I would love to try that handheld! But I just wan't to know is it coming to EU and how much it cost? Thank you for an amazing year of handhelds 2024 MSi Claw, White Steam Deck, Onexplayer F1 Pro 2 & MSI Claw 8 Ai, hello, welcome and happy best year of handhelds with Lenovo Legion Go and maybe Nintendo Switch 2 2025! 😊❤
AMD is now getting a run for its money and wait is finally over. I believed the handheld was coming that can play AAA games on high settings and this is it along with the onexplayer F1 pro. The top 2 handhelds for 2025!
how do we know how good performance is when your settings are so inoptimal? 900p ray tracing on a HANDHELD is INSANE. it should be 720 max with upscaling
@ handhelds aren’t a phone. you aren’t looking at fine details. when the switch oled runs at a full 720p, it looks great. handheld tech isn’t good enough to justify over 720p, it’s just diminishing returns. maybe once we get 15000 mah batteries and 3nm processors on handhelds and fully optimized software should a jump to 1080p considered. these windows handhelds are pure bs
@@carlosnumbertwo it’s cheaper, has a gaming focused UI, no need to worry for drivers or comparability issues. It Doesn’t have loud fans or overheating issues. It’s lightweight and modular. And it’s got great first party games that you need to jump through a bunch of hoops to emulate on PC and most people aren’t willing to do that. I mostly play my steam deck now, but the switch will always be the handheld king when it comes to the mass market. And the switch 2 will likely do the same
@@crestofhonor2349 when I say overheating I mean getting hot period. The PC handhelds don’t thermal throttle but that do get hot and loud because they use 5 to 10 times the wattage of the switch
the fact it’s running cyberpunk 2077 ray traced ultra at atleast 45 fps on a handheld is crazy
the ray tracing is terrible though when you look at it
@@Blox117 really
@@noobgamer_x98 look at 2:47 when he looks at the ceiling. its present everywhere but that is the most obvious because of the video
@@noobgamer_x98 7:20 the lights are more than a second delayed to appear when you look at them. also, some of the ray tracing elements turn off when nearing the edge of the screen
@Blox117 okk i got it
So they flopped hard with their first go, but have produced something special here on round two. Well done MSI and Intel.
They rushed the hell out of the Claw to compete against Steam deck and rog ally which was a huge mistake, thinking they can capture that market quickly. With Claw 7 / 8 AI they had no choice but go back to the drawing board and really have to think how to beat them. This was the result! So yeah, well done msi and intel!
Thank you
The legion GO is still better.
VRR display, God Features😁😁😁😁
@Direkturngatur999 doesn't make it the jest though
Realistically, the only game I would like to see in ray traced is Minecraft because of the way the game is it’s not fast paced so you have time to stop and watch the graphics
You gotta try the old school Doom games in RT. I don't have the most powerful gpu, so RT has always been a mixed bag on AAA games. But those old ones with the updated engines? They look great, and they make Doom scary. Well, at least eerie.
Raytraced and with ultra 4k textures and realism mods 😮. ... " the baby gonna cry" 😂😂😂
@@cesarvarela5438 for me it's running rethinking voxels, the path tracing is another level of eye candy. And rarely makes a scene look worse.
What graphics? Its just a bunch of blocks
intel finally starting to cook
@@isaiahbriggs2093 Start to cook? Intel always cooking. Too many fanboys out there
@@juveboy01033no lol this is the first time an igpu can actually respectfully game
You're living inside a cave.. RT is Intel's strength since alchemist. Also for XMX.
@@juveboy01033the only fanboy is you, intel have been fumbling for years.
Eh they been good
why would I need a cheap windows key? I just copied the one you just pasted in
lol, I just tested and it worked also
@@cerebrix BASED
@@That_Guy- Whos BASED? That not how u use the word based. Gen Z just making words up that dont mean what they think it does.
@@TheRibsta420 cope 🤡🤡🤡
Where?
The Claw 8 being the only Intel offering in the handheld space is about to be its big advantage. If Bazzite can get a port ready then I'll definitely be getting one of these.
I still want detachable controllers, otherwise agree 100%
Rtx Minecraft is THE best way to show off ray tracing. Many games are minorly impacted by RT but Minecraft is REALLY transformative
Like for sure not really designed for cyperpunk 2077 but the fact that its running it so well speaks volumes to how far handheld pcs have came in the last few years!
You should run Indiana Jones, rt is req so that would be the "need" for a device like this.
Idk why everybody is saying it's required, I played through it completely without and game still looked good
@@aydendowdy6431 Because gpu hardware ray tracing is required. The devs stated that. Ray tracing is part of the lighting engine
@@aydendowdy6431 Ray tracing is on at all times. RTGI is required on all systems including the Series S as it's how the game des it's indirect lighting
Can you do a comparison video about OneXFly F1 pro vs MSI 8 CLAW Ai +
Ok I'm sold. This thing is nuts. I want.
It's coming out on the 15th of January
I'd rather stick with the legion GO cos that's still pretty good and performance is basically the same.
intels RT has been pretty strong relative to their overall performance compared to AMD which seems to be a tacked on feature
Yup, even since last generation Intel ARC gpu's had significantly better ray tracing performance and this time Intel made another significant jump in their ray tracing cores with real world performance gains as seen in this video. I haven't heard of any updates to AMD's Ray tracing cores in RDNA 3 but I hope there's something in the HX 370.
Think this has motivated me to make a purchase of this when it’s on sale
please test newer games like silent hill 2, ffxvi, dragon age veilguard, space marine 2, and indiana jones
I second this, or I’ll try and get one sponsored to test
Lol ew
@@WhatIsThis-ej2ot huh
@@WhatIsThis-ej2ot You need to pull a barve now.
We can skip Veilguard. Down for the others though.
man watching this with my $1200 laptop felt so wrong know mine can even do that kind of ray tracing
As someone who's been following UMPC's and the idea of gaming on them since the early 2000's, it's crazy to see how far we've come.
It looks pretty good
I'm surprised, price is less than what I was expecting
Running ray tracing on the go is quite impressive. Hopefully more games get to support Xe2 based frame generation.
Minecraft RTX is fully path traced so that's more impressive than you're giving it credit for. It shows how much better Intel's RT cores are over AMD's
Intel have upped their game!
Man it's exciting times as someone who loves handheld gaming
This might be the one for me. All the right specs.
$900?
@@peacelove8395 if $900 is too much it’s not for you but that doesn’t mean it’s not for somebody else. Ally x is $800 and this outperforms it in nearly every way.
@peacelove8395 That's still cheaper than most high performance handhelds. Steam Deck's price made people forget how high these things cost
Wait for the z2 extreme chip and see
Still amd @@Sphizex01
I just preordered and I’m geeked.
Grats!
I can't wait to get one as well. I will upgrade it with a 2TB 2230 SSD.
This is actually amazing for a handheld! MSI has been really good to me after I switched from Asus PC parts due to price and quality. I may hold out for a Steam Deck 2, but MSI Claw is at the top of my shortlist to purchase, review and recommend right now.
It's cool but i'm holding out for Steam os to start dropping on handhelds. Legion go 2 is pretty much already confirmed to have a steam os version and windows handhelds are about to be a thing of the past. Save your money a little while longer folks
That's impressive for an IGP. Hope the improvements can be brought to Battlemage sooner
Ow man that is a crazy handheld !
Never bought this older model 🎅
2:26 you need to turn it off from option txt file so it will work
Would love to see Black Myth Wukong performance video on the MSI Claw Ai 8+
If you have the chance to try POE2 that would be great. I know it is early access but there is some ray tracing on it.
nice video prime good job
Can we see Helldivers 2 added to any future tests?
I’ve tried many times on my 258v laptop, and I can almost confirm that the increase from 25W to 30W for this chip brings almost no improvement. The additional power consumption is mostly allocated to the CPU, allowing it to run at higher frequencies to maintain smooth gaming performance.
When can we see the actual comparison everyone's waiting for (vs. One X Fly)
i dont know why so many people cream over ray tracing. its such a waste of performance for very little visual if any difference. any game with decent baked in lighting its not even noticeable. i have a 4090 and never use it.
Then you are wasting GPU at that point.
Looks amazing
Missed opportunity to test Indiana Jones, that's the current baseline for RT gaming and many are interested if this can run that better as it might persuade them to buy this instead of the competition!
If they make the price competitive, it's a real banger.
now that's a real competition for ryzen apu
Is the Core Ultra Series 2 processors now the new go to laptop processor? Do we even need laptops with GTX 4060 or 4070s anymore? Especially since the Core Ultras come with Thunderbolt 4 and you can get discrete graphics when you need more power.
There will be Intel Panther Lake laptops with 3rd gen Intel ARC (Celestial) graphics by the end of 2025. And likely a new MSI handheld based on that chip for CES2026.
Yes you still want built in dGPUs. eGPUs still lose quite a bit of performance when in comparison not to mention the price of a gaming laptop will be cheaper than most handhelds + eGPU and without the performance drop
@@Patrick73787 There will always be something better coming, which is why I haven’t decided to upgrade my steam deck yet.
@@crestofhonor2349 true but I was really hoping the ulta 7 258v would be cheaper, but seems they are priced near the 4060 laptops. Only benefit should be size and power consumption.
I'd love to see how it runs Red Dead Redemption 2! and how its performance compares to the Z1 extreme. Great video btw!!
Hey, on that 30fps in minecraft: did you try to test it on the charger? The intel graphics software has an "endurance gaming" thing which locks the fps to conserve energy
you could have activated Frame Generation on Spider Man, since FSR frame generation is decoupled of the upscale solution
Can't wait for newer Z2 Extreme in Ally 2 & Go 2. Than can make a new comparison 👍
Z2 Extreme has no AI based upscaling just like its predecessor, and the ray tracing will likely be weaker than Intel. We'll see.
The Z2 is the same as the Z1
@SWOTHDRA yup, Z3 Extreme also same with Z1 Extreme 😁
This is a great new handheld. But...The OneXPlayer X1 Pro is a beast with a big screen
So is the Lenova Legion GO
@Yusei255 it doesn't have the power as the Claw 8 AI+ or the OneXPlayer X1 Pro but I definitely think it's better than the Steam Deck
I wonder how the new claw performs with all the graphics settings maxed out, games that support unlimited frame rates always enabled, frame cap always off, ray tracing enabled with xess off, motion blur off, v sync off, and all the upscaling settings off with indiana jones and the great circle, cyberpunk 2077 and crysis remastered in full native resolution of the msi claw ai 8. I use these settings for every game even when using a 4k display from a laptop and a 4k external display. If there is a 4k display being used like a 4k tv and 4k gaming monitor like the 32 inch samsung odyssey neo g8 with its 4k mini led display with 240 hz, 1ms and 2,000 nits brightness maxed out all time with autobrightness always off, baklight maxed out and manual brightness at 100% 24/7 even at night for gaming I'm all for it 100%.
Man I don’t want to sell my LeGo but this is tempting 😅
Id love ro see this chip vs 9i 370 hx . Specially battery life comparison
Need a similar sized battery. There is no 370 hx chip with an 80whr battery in a handheld
I have been running games with RTX quite sometime now on the Steam Deck but this running it natively 😮
Is that scar on your left thumb from working on your bmw?
Errors in the video :
"Xess frame generation"
No. It's just xess upscaling.
"Forza has raytracing set to ultra "
It's only on via the garage. Ingame there is no raytracing.
Want to see Path of Exile 2 on this😋
After seeing all these different PC handhelds, makes me wonder how the Nintendo switch 2 is going to compete.
competing on price probably, I'd expect steam deck type pricing from the switch 2, these premium handhelds usually run between 2 and 3 times the price
Still going to do very well because the switch is far more mainstream than any PC handhelds. Switchsold more units in it's first year than the Steam Deck has total units
Well they have Nvidia in theor cornor so they will probably destroy most PC handhelds
@@TF2FCM the steamdeck cost 500 euro's the switch 2 wont bw that price
THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHING!
Not really
why aren't there any video's of intel v258 laptops or the msi claw 8 running bazzite ? is there no driver support ? you could be the first one to try if you don't already know why no one has done it that is i recall you already had lunar lake laptops on the chanel.
Why Path of Exile 2 gameplay??
Can you link up a VR headset to it and see how it handles PCVR games?
Great video like always. Please could you do a side by side split screen comparison against the rog ally x, Same settings and across a range of games so we can see FPS differences.
How long can you play? It's very impressive, I don't know what to buy now, I'm waiting for the legion go2 but this one has pretty good argument now that you show us. But the price is too expensive
Wait until summer. The price will have significantly dropped by then unless you really need something right now. The AMD counterparts will be in the same ballpark price wise, if not more expensive (despite no AI upscaling nor any decent RT perf).
Running XeSS at Auto from 1440x900 means youre running the game at 720x450 at best. It will continuously lower your base resolution to achieve the target framerate. It's easy to misrepresent the quality by recording it through a camera with the screen far away. But this would look like a mess up close and is a pretty unrealistic expectation to set for any handheld.
Wait, doesn't Ray Tracing in Forza Horizon 5 only work in Forza Vista? (which is where you can view the vehicles up close), I believe it doesn't actually turn on in normal gameplay, but correct me if I'm wrong
Only works in the garage, there's no RT ingame.
Seems to surpass the Z2 extreme which has been IMO the best for performance on windows for some time, however does this beat it on value and cost for what you get , im I think I will wait for at least a 40 to 60% jump in performance at same price point before I replace the Rog Ally.
I think imma do the same
Not smart , the rog ally is garbage yoy should already trade it in for the ally x
was thinking of getting the ally X as company to my lcd deck but now I might consider this one
Handheld pcs are a luxury. It would be better to invest that money in a better laptop/desktop if you're serious about playing games. 1 Steam Deck is more than enough for now.
@@Jasmohan Not for all games
@@Jasmohan not at all, thw steamdeck LCD is a disgrace tbh....its underpowered and basically a joke.
@SWOTHDRA What's not a joke? An RTX laptop/desktop connected to a TV with a wireless controller which can handle games at HighOrAbove graphics. Even a PS5 will be better. Then you can get 1 handheld.
I get that your LCD steam deck doesn't look good. But currently all the handhelds, even with OLED screens can't run the current games at low/medium graphics at 1080p.
If you have the money for a second handheld and you think it's worth it, go for it.
@@Jasmohan Depends what game you play. SD for indies and emulation is fine. Performance is getting way behind in heavy games
how does it compare with the ROG Ally X in terms of handheld feel, weight etc? Is the 8 inch vs 7 inch screen experience an upgrade?
Yes it is
But let's be honest: The timing was awful. Too late to be a christmas gift, too early to remain strong enough since the Z2E is basically just about to be released.
meh Z2E would be based on AI 390 HX just like Z1E was based on 7840HS
The Z2E actually seems to be weaker
It seems the Z2E will not use rdna4 but 3.5, so its worse than the lunar lake on this device...
Heck, the lunar lake one also have better power consumption, dunno if they could improve that on the z2e... but lets see.
It comes out in January so if anything is a new device for a new year
@@itsmilan4069prove the facts
I want to see it hookd to a meta quest 3 for vr.
Black Friday 2025 will be very exciting!
😂
2025 will be an awesome year for both hardware and games.
How does it run Silent Hill 2 Remake? It has UE5 Lumen and Hardware RT that is a good test for these new systems (that usually struggle with it).
How noisy is it compared to the other handhelds?
impressive for intel in therms of gpu and power tdp
Normal to intel
Time to sell my og steamdeck
Should have been sold that piece of junk a year ago
@SWOTHDRA the steam deck is still good, and still performs well
I like that you are using a white background on the video which is much better than the dark one on the previous video and we couldn’t see anything. ❤
Cool story
Oh no I might be selling my ROG ally x
"there's no screen tearing, super smooth"
5:27 shows screen tearing...
I hope Steam OS works with Msi and Intel.
Seeimg Arc Gpu Linix would be great.
Priced way high otherwise it looks like a neat portable pc.
Aside from a dedicated GPU, an equivalently spec'd laptop would come fairly close. 80Wh battery, 120hz VRR screen. Probably close to 2 hours of ray traced gameplay away from a wall. That could easily be worth 900 USD to the right person. This costs more, but I wouldn't say it is worse value than a Steam Deck. Pay more, get more.
@@stevenolson3977 are they’re any laptops in that price range with lunar lake?
I think Minecraft does Path RT which is harder to render.
Yes can you do an egpu set up with the Aoostar Dock?, that's is what I be using with my MSI Claw. Curious to see how it will perform with something like a RTX 4070 Ti Super
I tried adding support for Intel handhelds to my Portal RTX Intel Mod but it just kept crashing on MSI Claw, hopefully this has better luck
should i return my ally x and get this for $200 more or should I wait to see if the Lenovo go 2 is everything the leaked specs say it will be ?
bazzite video for this device?
Isn’t bazzite just for AMD?
@@christianr.5868 No
It's cool the hardware can achieve this, but not really practical for everyday use, especially unplugged.
did i missed specification or there is none?
Hey ETA prime, been watching your content from a long time and i love it. I just wanted to ask that if you could test Beam Ng drive game on these handled devices, my brother loves that game and wants a handled and no one tests that game.
That is crazy
Please compare ray tracing ultra on cyberpunk both z1 extreme . Just like youdid on this claw . Please compare them . This is my question , important to me .
The ray tracing on cynerpunk on this claw was insanely good... but i doubt ally x can perform like this on ultra rt .
Also please add indiana jones , ally x can get 30 40 fps on low setting on 720p , what about claw ?
Just remember that the PS5 and Xbox Series X cannot run any RT except shadows...and poorly at that. This Claw looks incredible
First Gen Ray tracing from amd slow ya roll
@ lol…i got no roll. Just saying look where we are in 4 short years
This is frankly false. The Claw still has likely worse RT performance. The issue is that you aren't comparing equal things. Indiana Jones on Xbox Series X has full RTGI on just like PC while running at 1800p and 60fps. Spiderman 2 has many surfaces with RT Reflections on both the buildings and water. . RT shadows aren't anything to look down upon anyways and they're still expensive. You're thinking of Cyberpunk and even on the Ally you can run Cyberpunk with RT local shadows on and still have decent performance
@@crestofhonor2349 Shadows is an excellent use of RT, but only one function. They cut RT features in Indian Jones to make RTGI work just like the choices they had to make with Cyberpunk of what RT features to cut.
Open world RTGI is beyond the reach of the current gen consoles. That Indiana Jones engine is pretty impressive though it isn't running full RT, just global illumination.
It is awesome because Cyberpunk cannot run reflections (as an example) on PS5 or Series X either...but this new claw can. Full RT Ultra at 30fps is really impressive for a handheld.
Did he say ultra 🤯
MSi Claw 8 Ai looks beautiful with that color design, RGB lights under joysticks, the Dragon wallaper and logo behind it I would love to try that handheld! But I just wan't to know is it coming to EU and how much it cost? Thank you for an amazing year of handhelds 2024 MSi Claw, White Steam Deck, Onexplayer F1 Pro 2 & MSI Claw 8 Ai, hello, welcome and happy best year of handhelds with Lenovo Legion Go and maybe Nintendo Switch 2 2025! 😊❤
Let’s see the comparison between the Z1 extreme next
AMD is now getting a run for its money and wait is finally over. I believed the handheld was coming that can play AAA games on high settings and this is it along with the onexplayer F1 pro. The top 2 handhelds for 2025!
Please test wuthering waves
Amazing toy. But I'm still very happy with my basic Steam Deck. In a year or two, I will make the jump for a powerful machine.
Intel always top of the cpu games, now APU-s also? Ouch
how do we know how good performance is when your settings are so inoptimal? 900p ray tracing on a HANDHELD is INSANE. it should be 720 max with upscaling
My phones have been doing 1440p since 2016, dont tell be I should run games at 720p as if this is 2005
@ handhelds aren’t a phone. you aren’t looking at fine details. when the switch oled runs at a full 720p, it looks great. handheld tech isn’t good enough to justify over 720p, it’s just diminishing returns. maybe once we get 15000 mah batteries and 3nm processors on handhelds and fully optimized software should a jump to 1080p considered. these windows handhelds are pure bs
Calling Doom Eternal "an old one" feels wrong. Great video, my tax refund is crying.
I need to see Monster hunter gameplay. Rise, World and Wilds. 🛐🙇🏻
Why would anyone buy a switch at this point?
@@carlosnumbertwo it’s cheaper, has a gaming focused UI, no need to worry for drivers or comparability issues. It Doesn’t have loud fans or overheating issues. It’s lightweight and modular. And it’s got great first party games that you need to jump through a bunch of hoops to emulate on PC and most people aren’t willing to do that. I mostly play my steam deck now, but the switch will always be the handheld king when it comes to the mass market. And the switch 2 will likely do the same
@ but why are you limiting yourself? Learn windows! Ignorance is not an excuse!
Because it's a console and will be cheaper as well as being far more accessible
@@christianr.5868 None of the handhelds have overheating issues unless you suffocate them for air
@@crestofhonor2349 when I say overheating I mean getting hot period. The PC handhelds don’t thermal throttle but that do get hot and loud because they use 5 to 10 times the wattage of the switch
Can you run it with the onexgpu2 please
So close to being perfect, if only OLED. Still this thing + the great reviews for Battlemage have piqued my interest.