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Thinking about RZR gear reduction?? Why you should do it and how to install. Stuck primary clutch!!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2020
- Trails are getting more rutted out and more rocks exposed. Take your trail riding, rock crawling, hill climbing game to the next level. We talk about the needs and why you should consider reducing the gearing in your RZR transmission. We also show you how to install rzr gear reduction yourself. We run across a stuck cvt primary clutch and show you how to remove it.
#rzrgearreduction
#roxxzillas
#rzr
Thank you for this video, it’s got me through 2 gear reductions.
You’re welcome glad it helped ya out!
Thanks guys for this video very informative!
Keep up the good work!
You’re welcome and thanks for watching!
man I love the sound of transmission gear clanking together.
It is a exciting sound!
Awesome seeing you two work together! All my wife knows on the rzr is the drivers seat. Have fun at Hawk Pride! It’s a great place to ride!
LOL. Thank you. We enjoy working and riding on these things together. It’s awesome we have the same hobbies. While working together we usually spawn some great ideas and point each other in the right direction. I will say having a wife that rides too just doubles the parts costs!! Or she says triples the cost based on her mood. LOL.
Outstanding instruction video.
Thanks
Merry Christmas.
You’re welcome and thank you. If we show y’all how to do something we try our best to be clear and not miss or mess up anything lol.
Merry Christmas to you too. Thanks for watching.
That stage 2 snap ring is something else on mine! Great instructions! Great video!
Thanks!
@@CrashCitySxS so far so good on the General recommendation for Reverse Chain upgrade. Waiting on new bearings to put back together but everything looks good and ready to go back in.
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Thanks for sharing good information
You’re welcome
Love all your talents gurl.
Thanks! Love yours too!!
I was just talking about doing this. Great video. Thanks.
Thank you! This reduction is a game changer for sure. A must have for 35” tires.
Any chance you could put the part numbers in the description? I think Im going to give some 35's a shot on my 4 seater.
Well get them in description shortly. Here they are if you are needing them now
Polaris part numbers for 53% L 12% H&R
3235451 25T reverse shaft
3235450 48T stage 2 gear
3236132 25T low gear
3235232 67T low gear
I know this is an old video, but I saw where per manufacturer tech say to tap the side of the puller too. I had the same problem and I tried that and it seemed to help too
Thanks for this vid and your others. Your channel is one of my faves and definitely a “go to” when I’m considering upgrades. 👍🏻
Have you installed a RS1 diff in an XP chassis yet? That’s my next project for the winter.
You’re welcome. We’ve not put a rs1 in a factory frame yet. But I think it’s a ticking time bomb with the four seater lol. Rs1 for the long bed is one the list. Maybe a winter project, depending on what ideas we got going on to change or upgrade lol.
Hey Stephen/Amber, first off love your videos and how to DIY videos.I’ve got a 20 pro xp 4 ultimate could you recommend spring for clutch and gears for reduction. Thanks!
Thank you! Are you on Facebook? Be easier to communicate there than here! Look us up at crash city SxS. If not we can get you lined out on here!
Thanks for the great video! I currently have my transmission all tore apart to replace the high gear and shift dog. Should I replace the bearings? They seem to have just a little bit of play. But all of them are the same amount of play. Any thoughts would be helpful, thanks!
Not a bad idea if you have a few miles on them!
Grate video!! Have you checked with hunterworks for clutching or even a thick belt
Yes after we got reduction in her buggy we started researching cvt tuning and found out a lot. Talked to Todd and he was very good and took time to explain it so we understood it. We did buy a couple belts from him to try out. We’ll have the clutching video out in a couple days. Thank you for watching and the compliments!!
thanks for the video
You’re welcome!!
do you ever change any of the bearings I see where some people are having bearing failures
i mostly do trail riding and some mud little bit of drag racing
2016 xpt w/32 crypids
oem clutch and trans
Fixing to put the whalen
190 - 218hp tune and the newer cam and injectors
just want a lower gear for low range for the mud
When my belt starts slipping I just stop and winch it out
My high gear is perfect
What do you use for gear reduction in the RS1? Do you have the OEM part numbers or do you use a kit? I have 2 RS1’s I’m planning to do gear reduction for running 35” roxxzillas
Shoot us an email at crashcitysxs@gmail and we can get ya set up
Hi again, Done the gear reduction, AA s2 clutch kit and AA s3 tune myself months back after watching you video with great results. Just wondering with your stage 3 tune and clutch kit did you change the helix ?. I've still got the standard one in. (32" tires)
We’ve got our new clutch kits out now setup for gear reduction that has new flyweights helix and secondary spring dialed in for gearing changes. It’s awesome.
@@CrashCitySxS nice !. What helix would u recommend for my setup ? Just wondering if changing the helix will improve the power delivery further
Good video. Very helpful. I've always been on two wheels but just bought my first side by side. Got a 2020 Rzr turbo S Dynamix, all OEM. First impressions after coming from bikes was....mmm this is kinda slow off the stop and the clutch is terrible. Low gear is useless. So ordered a AA clutch kit to hopefully give a better response from the gas. Going to get an AA Stage 3 tune soon to hopefully wake it up. Next I thought gearing needs to be sorted which is when I found your vid. I use it to scramble around a bit of land I have but want to take it on the mountain trails soon. Not interested in going more than 100kms/hr on it but would like to get there a lot quicker from stop , but also in low Id like to be able to do the steep slow rock climbs. Please could you suggest gearing with part numbers ? would really appreciate it from someone who knows their sht.
Thanks! Aa stage 3 tune is what we have and it’s night and day difference in power. If you’re running 32’s a 33/12/12 is gonna for you nicely and can still run up to 35’s. But if going 35’s the 53/26/26 is awesome. 33% low reduction is 3235380 3235381 3235232 3236132. The gearing has been to best mod we’ve ever done to any rzr we’ve owned! It’s a totally different machine with it
@@CrashCitySxS Those part numbers fit the two seater S ?. just to be sure.
@@CrashCitySxS When I research the reverse gear 3235380, some shops list it as 27T and others list it as 25T . Do you know which it is please ?
Its is a 27 tooth.
Just ordered the gears for mine. Do you ever go through water up over your tires ?....just wondering if you have added stuff to keep the water out of the intake etc ..
We havent but will if we have to do so lol. The intakes would be fine. Any deeper than over your tires you’d want snorkels and reroute the trans, diff, and fuel tank vent lines! Don’t let off the gas so water doesn’t go back up your exhaust!
I need a gear reduction done in my 2021 rzr turbo s velocity. I do a lot of muddy trails with hills. What do you recommend and how much to have installed?
I just replied to your email!
I just realized something (I think) from the opening scene and the pink 900 backflip. Are you the same amber that drove bigfoot??
That’s me!!
Awesome!! So jealous lol.
Lol. It was an awesome experience for sure! Tons of hard work led to driving and a opportunity to drive for Bigfoot.
I have a 2 seater 2016 rzr xp 1000 looking for the lowest gear possible could you please help me with the part numbers
3235450
3235451
Is the ace 325 gear set that will reduce every gear by roughly 26%
3235754
3235232
Will drop low gear an additional 21% roughly for 47 ish in low and 26 ish in high and reverse. That’s as low as you can go in a transmission. Contact Andrew at Schafstall Polaris in Salem Indiana to get our discount for being a subscriber to the channel. He can ship parts to you if your not close to us. Thanks for watching.
Don’t forget to install a HD pinion retainer plate while you’re in there!
Check out the m18 1/2 drive fuel Milwaukee impact. It would have not stopped. It would either pull the clutch. Or ruin the puller. Lol
Lol after two transmissions the puller was ruined. Those turbo clutches are on there TIGHT!! Can’t quit using ol super mac. It was given to amber by bob chandler of Bigfoot himself so there’s a lot of sentimental value. I’m surprised I actually get to use it every once in a while lol. Thanks for watching!!
I keep hearing I need to replace my reverse chain if plan on doing a reduction on my Polaris Xp 1000… I didn’t hear mention anything about it? Does it need to be done also?
If you treat it as a weak link you will probably be fine. But not a bad idea to upgrade if you can swing it. We have the reverse chain upgrade with the gears on our website or can price you just the double reverse chain kit. Shoot us an email at crashcitysxs@gmail.com if you need any parts!
Do you guys sell the kits for the gear reduction
Not yet but we can get you part numbers if you need them!
If doing a gear reduction on a turbo s with 4500 miles should I replace the bearings also?
We would highly recommend that. Sandcraft has a skf bearing kit for it. I think about $250ish.
@@CrashCitySxS what do you recommend for 18% overall and 36% low reduction in a turbo s?
@@BradFizer you have a 4 seat or 2 seater? Everyone comes up with different percentages but it’s all oem Polaris gears. If you have Facebook message us on our crash city SxS page...easier to communicate than on here.
A rzr 570 reverse shaft and stage two gear gets about 12% overall reduction across all gears. Add the ranger low gear set to that and gets you 33 in low. But 4 seaters already have the 570 reverse shaft in them.
Ace 325 reverse shaft and stage two gear gets you around 26% overall reduction. Add ranger lows and then you have our setup around 53 in low. Some call this 47%
Pm sent! I ask some questions about getting ranger low gears in a non turbo
I have a 2016 Rzr H.L.on 35'sBKT
Iam getting super atv's GDP HD transmission w/ 25% reduction on both H&L instead of just the12% in low only that comes on the H.L.. What kind of top speed would i roughly get in High gear ? Now if i understand you correctly I can add 20% or it just 12% more gear reduction to Low only & bring it up to like 46%or38% in low & the 25% in High ? Can i do this w/ the GDP Trans? & what do you think up this set up ? Mostly Mud & Trail w35"Bkt's would like to have like 37" or 40"bkts for the mud & get a set of 35 rockzillas to try my hand a rock crawling also! And what are your feelings on the GDP tranny's Any Good ? Thank you very much! Love the channel!
Gonna totally guess that you’re gonna be around 60 tops. But I’m honestly not sure. The hl already has the lowest low gear set available so you’re good there.
The GDP cases are actually impressive. They are for sure heavy duty and having extra beef and reinforcements in the case where needed. Total guess here-I’m gonna bet the gears inside are mostly oem gears. As long as the guys in the warehouse build it right and shipping gets you the right trans then you’ll be happy with it!
@@CrashCitySxS Thankyou Very much for the timely reponse!
You’re welcome
@@CrashCitySxS which gears would they have changed inorder to achieve 25% in Hi & low?
What’s your top speed in low with the gear reduction and 35’s?
25-28 depending on your max rpm
@@CrashCitySxS tuned also? I was expecting 25-30mph. So, right in the ballpark.
Have either of you had a chance to figure out if you can still get enough speed up for some steep hill climbing?
@@MrSKINUM you could use high if you needed some real speed. But low doesn’t bog down on a hill side. It’ just keeps pulling hard on it
@@MrSKINUM we both have AA stage 3 tunes
Are you running a clutch kit along with the gear reduction or is it stock clutch and gear reduction?
I wouldn’t say we’re running a kit. We have the oem primary spring with aftermarket assassins adjustable flyweights set full of weights at 72.4 grams. Oem helix in secondary clutch with a venom products 185/245 spring. It’s the best setup we’ve came up with when testing different springs and helixes. Engagement is about 1800-1850 and average belt temps are around 135*. Never have got belt hotter than 163.
I have a 2019 XPT and wondering which gears I should go with? Was thinking 33,12,12 but do not want to lose too much top end in high if possible.
@@davidshaffer4099 that’s a good all around reduction for anyone not wanting to lose a lot of the top end that they have. It’s enough to turn 35’s with some clutching and real good with 32’s.
@@CrashCitySxS SO can you point me in the right direction on which gears I need to give me that setup?
@@davidshaffer4099 Polaris part numbers-
3235380
3235381
3235232
3236132
Does the gear reduction affect the speedometer
Don’t know 💯 but my thinking is it should be correct since the speed sensor runs off the “ring” gear which is after the reduction. But it won’t account for your tire size being different and that would affect the speedo
Nice. Mine still has the factory governor so that should not affect anything either
Yea if you get a tune on it that will do away with the low speed limiter but you’re not going to hit that with reduction anyway
do you use a trans alignment tool or just wing it
Inner clutch cover is aluminum with no room for adjustment. Snuggled up gold bolts on top of trans then snuggled up gray engine/transmission bolts then put in torx bolts around the crank. Before you put crank bolts in Get everything flush with the inner clutch cover line up the bolts around the crank them install them and tighten everything up. Inner clutch cover has no room for adjustment between the engine and trans on a XPT
@@CrashCitySxS is that the same on turbo s models?
Yes sir
I have s 900xp with all the high clearance radios rods and 1.5 forward control arms and its tuned I am running 30s I want to go to 32s what gear reduction would you recommend to run 32s I ride alot a Disney Oklahoma I'm not worried about it being fast I just want to keep power
You’re probably going to want 26ish %. I’ll look up some parts and see best way to get you there. I’m thinking ace 325 gears but let me double check. Been awhile since we had her old 900 with the reduction in it
What year is your 900xp?
@@CrashCitySxS 2013
So appears to get 27% you can install the ace 325 reverse shaft and stage 2 gear.
Polaris p/n
3235451 25T reverse shaft
3235450 48T stage 2 gear
@@CrashCitySxS you think that would be enough to keep my power to run 32 inch tires on a 900xp?
Where did you get the gear reduction kit from
Polaris dealer. It’s the ace reverse shaft and gear and a ranger low gear set. There’s other options of reduction available not just what we went with.
I don’t have the part numbers on me right now but I can get them. Feel free to message us on our Facebook page Crash City SxS and we can get you the part numbers and talk further if needed. Easier to communicate on there than here since sometimes on older videos we don’t get a notification very soon if at all. Been meaning to add the part numbers in the video description but I’ve forgotten about it. Thanks for watching
3235451 reverse shaft 25T
3235450 gear 48T stage 2
3236132 gear low 25T
3236232 gear low 67T
Will them gears work on a 2020 rzr not the turbo
Not those exact gears. Non turbo we have to swap the whole input shaft to get there gearing in low reduced
Ok do you know where I can find the info about the gears I need to run the same reduction y’all run?
What steering kit do you like? Meaning rackn pinion
The 4 seater still has the oem rack. Sprinkles the buggy has a Shock Therapy Race rack in it. Really nice design and strong and it’s serviceable, but its pricey. Thanks for watching!
@@CrashCitySxS i sent my shocks to them for a full build 2500 bucks spring valve job not impressed... I need to call them I have one with o ring bad let oil out.... thank you.
Ya they’re sure proud of their springs and shocks. We’ve tried every other option of steering racks before with them not lasting any longer than oem. Their rack seems to be pretty strong. She’s not tore it up yet lol. Sorry to hear about your shock issues. Hopefully they’ll make it right!
@@CrashCitySxS yeah I was looking it looks badass I may get it lol. They won't fix the seal for free... I heard there better people out there on shocks .... it still rides like a covered wagon....
Aww man that sucks to spend that much $$ and not follow up with good customer service. Gear one just came out with a race rack like ST for 16 XPT and all the years of the 1k. Nothing for 17 & up XPT yet. But if it fits your vehicle gear one makes the same thing if you don’t want to give more business to ST. We’ve never done shock valving on ours and only ran the upgraded tender springs so don’t have anyone we could recommend for springs and shocks. But let us know if you find a good company to deal with that fixes the covered wagon!
It’s a shame Polaris has these machines geared so high from the factory.
The 16 XPT came with pretty low gearing and everyone cried about it so they took it back up higher...
Put a lil heat on them and they will come off and go on easy
How can I contact u guys about doing a gear reduction? I don’t do Facebook. Do u have an email.
You can reach out to us at crashcitysxs@gmail.com and we can go from there!
Lol they made a real life model of the buggy from PUBG😂
🤣🤣🤣
Ditch the intro and just get to the nitty gritty
We’ve been getting a lot of questions about gearing up to this video so we took a minute to address those questions to help out others that may have the same ones in their heads. If we help one person make an informed decision and then to the nitty gritty of how to do it themselves then that one person made the video a success. So occasionally we may ramble about something to help others out in more ways than just showing them how to do something. Thank you for your input and watching!
@@CrashCitySxS I meant the backflip and going down the ledges. Rambling about why to do the gear reduction is perfectly fine
Gotcha!!! Thanks!!!
We really do appreciate the feedback to help make us better!
@@CrashCitySxS Its a cool channel, figured I would pass along a suggestion. No hate intended