Would a different manager change ANYTHING at Manchester United?
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- Опубліковано 5 бер 2024
- Mark Ogden joins the ESPN FC panel to discuss Manchester United assessing potential replacements for Erik ten Hag and debate if a new manager would help resolve the club’s struggles.
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United doesnt have a starting left back! Their star center backs have not played together all season. Their bench is full of kids. When Arsenal had injury issues on their back line pundits were breaking their arms to make excuses for Arteta. The Ten Hag movement has largely been fueled by the press. I hope Ineos are not stupid enough to fall for the hype.
okay but they had Reguilon and gave him away ...
And for Arteta: I really don`t get the comparisons. When you appoint Arteta (as Arsenal owner) you know its his first managerial job and you have to give him time for this reason. You don`t expect a massive drop off in season 2 by Ten Hag.
Besides Kiwior is playing and he is Arsenals 4th left back (Timber,Zinchenko, Tomiyasi in any order)
@@Lagrange90you are spilling trash to defend your nonsense
@@Lagrange90Regulion had to go due FFP Financial Fair Play issues. The major faults don't come from Ten Hag. Nobody is talking about the bad recruitment before Ten Hag came in.
@@Lagrange90They let go of him because medical staff assured them that both Malacia and Shaw will be fully fit in january.
@@dadajulius6489 you are right bad recruitment cause the team ole said it in his own words scouts were the ones that cause all this
Believe me, Pep can't ask Maguire, Evans and Lindelof to play a high defensive line and cover the spaces in behind.
Klopp can't ask Martial, Rashford, 32 yr old Casemiro, Maguire, Evans and others to gegenpress. He can't.
You can't play "ideal" football with non-ideal players.
Uk what, I actually praise ETH to play this way (even though I hate it) because playing this "ideal" way would be suicide with these players.
(Yes, Antony was a flop signing by him but not others)
If you think Tuchel and De Zerbi can come in and "revolutionize" these same players, Good luck.
If he was playing this style with all the players available, I would myself question it
😂😂😂😂dnt forget pple like to act like everyone pep has signed had worked out .. bro literally bought 4 left backs and still plays a CB in that spot
Totally agree with you.👍🏾
Do you know Harry Maguire is older then Varane and Cassemiro
@@superbiroy Like seriously? I thought Casemiro and Varane are older than Maguire. I thought Maguire clocked 30 years old last year.😳
@@briansam5681 Hmm...🤔
Mark has a bit of Karl Pilkington about him.
These same people said pep guardiola and Jurgen klopp couldn't get this sqad to perform yet they continually target ten haag. .. .......SMH
It's obvious when he has his preferred back line ( martinez, shaw, varane and wan bissaka) and hoijlund fit. We'd see a big difference
Varane over maguire?
@@alone2break Is the even a question ? Maguire is older, Varane is a multiple champions league winnner... Why are you even asking that question
thats an excuse
Anyone who knows football can confirm that the club structure and players abre the BIGGEST Problem at utd. How many persons realise that Sir Jim is fixing the structure first??
If we had a good enough squad we'd be better positionrled table wise
Loool I don't know what team you've been watching but there isn't a big difference in style of play when every one is fit. Players came back this season and yes they won 5 games in a row but they were absolutely dominated in every single one of those matches. Even when they won the Caraboa cup, Newcastle absolutely dog walked them but didn't score. You can't ride your luck every single game.
These conversations are stupid at best...United have 8 first team starters injured...Liverpool struggled just with Van Dijk...these pundits are delusional
Just a minute...a part of being a good manager is understanding the phyche of their players and their dressing room. If TH had come out and said "this is not good enough" or "that's rubbish" do we really think this group of players would strap up their laces and get to work? I think not...this set of MU players would probably jump in their yachts and their private planes and go somewhere they feel loved and coddled all the time...baring in mind they still have another 8/9 games left in the league, plus FA Cup. He has to be able to motivate them to get on the field and play for another 3 months...he won't get that if he starts being "straight forward" in the media...
ESPN PUNDITS DONT GET THE DAY PAST BY WITHOUT MENTIONING MAN UNITED AND ETH SACKING THEY ALWAYS LOOK FOR SOMETHING TO DOWN GRADE THE TEAM
Imagine De zerbi will lose united dressing rooms in the first match, and 2 months later in conference press he say"10 players needs to go"😂.
Trust the process
Imagine doing badly at work, but keeping your job because everyone just accepts that the company's going down the tubes.. 😮
He said like it was for sancho and you lot were saying why did he say the truth, now its the opposite? Amazing innit
Name the show "who hates the United the most" . Mark(Players supporter) and Steve will be the Undisputed Winners of that show
It's truly a dumb conversation. One is asking for emry who failed with arsenal. An other one is asking for tukhel who failed with Chelsea Nd an other one is asking for dezerbi who didn't prove anything
It's truly stupid.they want unproven managers to replace a manager who already proved he can be in the top 3 last seasons.
That's how you recognize nonsense
Instead of asking to back with transfers the manager who got 3rd place last sesson let's just throw evrything away and start from the beginning on managers who we don't even know if they can do it
De zebri has lost players and they aren’t like last season but still competitive. Man United gain players and go backwards 😂
The agenda about utd just staggering
You know this is the problem for utd fans, rather hear sweet lies than bitter truth 😏
Take a look at Bodø Glimt and their manager. They are playing a really attractive football and he would be good choice!
If the mentality of the players are weak which managers do you believe can brings confidence to these bunch of players .They switch on and off when they want give the coach another season with a structure behind him.
ten hugs will do
Unai Emery is the best coach for United if they sack 10 hag.
spurs and leverkusen are great examples as to how managers can make crucial differences. but their squads contained hardworking athletic players who adjusted to a higher intensity style of play that enabled their success to overcome any possible technical shortcomings they may have had. manchester united's squad is packed with unathletic players. just look at their spine: maguire evans varane lindelof casemiro eriksen mainoo bruno mctominay aren't going to outwork most pl clubs' midfield/centreback tandems. i think you can properly assess tenhag only after you give him a decent squad and he fails with it.
Since SAF left United sacked more managers than they won trophies.
Here's the problem with the United squad. . it's the United way of playing.. no one really knows what it is bc it's not something that ever really been put down on paper. If you listen to countless interview from player under SAF, they say it was never about tactics with SAF, he had driven players who were very high IQ players who could create chemistry within themselves bc they understood the United way was to win, so you figure out a way to win. But you saw many good players who failed at United bc they either didn't fit in chemistry wise or while good players didn't have that IQ to create chemistry without having it coached. You have players who have been trained to think independently, think forward thinking, and a good work ethic but nothing about how to play a tactical side of the game. You have players now who's mindset isn't to play actually but to play more individually. ETH doesn't have team oriented players like he had at Ajax, the difference in their mindsets are huge. Look at garnacho, good player but his decision making in the final third would probably have him benched at Ajax bc he constantly passes up the easy pass to a teammate to try and shoot same with rashy. Sancho couldn't succeed at United bc other than Erikson and Bruno no one else wanted to take responsibility and pass the ball between them more than once before they dribbled and none of the forwards at that time were trying to pass and move. Look at antony rashy and garnacho, you pass to them they stop the ball and slow down the pace of the game. Garnacho only one really taking on defenders but he is guilty of dribbling then stopping and trying to shoot too much. It will take 7 players in the next 2 windows to make united competitive again. It'll take 3yrs for them to get their squad rotation and I'm talking about you have prime player in a position, you have someone pushing to take that spot and you have a youngster coming through the ranks rotation. Whoever is making the decisions needs to get bold not with just the squad but with the money and the fans and say a squad reset may have us in 6,7,8th spot but it'll be a quick turn around bc we will be assembling a squad to fit united new way of thinking which is to create an actually visible, sustainable identity to our playing style.
ESPN is forcing it so hard 😂
Same story about every 15 hours.
Should have stayed with Rangnick!
What about the players they have also to take responsibility so many dead woods like lindelof Rashford Bruno and others Sancho is also on the sale about 8 to ten players need to go Rangnick was absolutely spot on when he talked about open heart surgery that's Manchester united team needs
You guys make allowances for De Zerbi due to the injuries on his team and yet Ten Hag has had more injuries and all year long. United is above Brighton so what's the deal?
NO!
Stop watching espn there hear for click baits not logic
No no no no not yet another manager i just can't bear it !!!!!!
Leave ten hag get players out and trust the proccess🙏
Manchester United haven't played good football for 11 years and at the moment there is no obvious choice of manager available and unfortunately Ten Hag is not the answer either
WE BELIEVE IN TEN HAG AND MANCHESTER UNITED
Nope. Ten Hag has what it takes.
Yall some bunch of haters no manager can get the the best out of these players they just not good but you all want to ignore that and sell your news but I hope ineos give ten hag a chance under a proper structure
guess Fergie shouldn't have made a "deal with the devil" to bring short term success to united in exchange for long term mediocrity.
I would prefer Inzaghi
Yes, why not...there's no proper player's in d mid field and some players need to go
i say go get Ole and Michael Carrick, but plans to make Michael Carrick the main coach in 3 years time.
Potter will save Manu
NO IT WONT!!! FFS
They have had 8 managers singe Fergie retired.
Bring back Jose Mourinho, bring back greenwood
Lets be honest here, which really good manager would want to go to Man Utd !!!! 🤣
No talent in one breath, the next breath they have great attacking talent, its the usual fish tank mentality, no manager is never gonna throw a player to the wolves, quickest way to loose a dressing room
Please Sir Jim i am begging you don't fire Ten Hag. Everytime Ten Hag gives an interview he fills my eyes with tears, tears of laughter that is . He is the best Manager Man United has had since Ole. Just look at the world-class beaters he has brought in Rasmus, Onana. Mount ,Erickson, Amrabat, Evans, Malacia, Weghost, and above all Anthony !!!!. Please Sir Jim give Ten Hag a new 5-year contract and 700m to spend. Trust the process I say and ignore the haters.
You're embarrassing you melt
Carrick
Too early. He needs to develop more as a manager and learn before coming into united, but I think he’ll be a great manager for us in 4 or 5 years
What about Conte, Tuchel, Flick and Nagelsmann ? Why are they not going after them ?
Nope, not a Chance. They'll sack him after 2 seasons again.
Creg burly is a big man united haters with Steve 🤡
Absolutely, SAF won the title with same squad Moyes finished in 8th with the season after SAF left. Mourinho managed to earn 81 points on a season with a more a limited squad. A proper manager will make the difference
Ferguson won his last PL title when the top teams where already in decline for years. That team was nowhere near elite, pure European subtop.
@@stnbch3025 yet they gave Real Madrid a run for their money🤔
Manchester United lack quality players.
The only thing that can help united and bring back glories is time every manager that will come to united will need 3 to 5 year's before he can do anything good with the club
makes it easier to sack them doesn't it, I dont know why they are holding on to failures for 2 years because some deluded people are thinking someone might pull off a fergie after 4 years 🤣🤣🤣. Trust the process they say. They should have sacked them all like moyes after 7-8 months, wouldn't even mind appointing carrick at the moment.
United are a nobody club now hahahaha
Rubbish
Bring in Southgate, he'll fix all issues at united.