The cheap firewood sellers usually don't last long in the game. If you can add value to your firewood in some fashion, that will separate you from the other firewood sellers in your area. The number one way to add value is to sell dry, ready to burn firewood.
That’s right, but every year is the a new person selling full cords for 100$, it looks like crap and is wet but they’ll get business just because they’re cheap.
Good point on separating the wood. I think you can find more customers that want it separated that use wood for heat. Most of our customers are recreational burners, and they don’t even know what the wood species are😂 it can definitely yield you more money if you find the right people. Great video Genin love the set up.👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Todd, even a lot of my recreational burners buy the premium separated wood. They either like cherry campfires that smell nice and hickory campfires to cook food over.
Separating by species and quality is key . I always figured if were gona be in the wood business we might as well go the extra mile and make the wood worth the most it can be . Great video an I like the speed if that ultra .
Good video Genin. I haven't started to separate my wood... maybe I need to rethink that. My formula for maximizing profit has been to sell the smallest volume package possible. Bundles are the highest profit, then 1/4 cords. My prices tend to be on the high side. It all depends on your market. As much as I enjoy it I'm never going to do it for free!
That’s right! If I could sell road side bundles and get full value I’d be interested but not sure that’s feasible in my market. Thanks for stopping by dick.
I’m with you Genin. It can stay in my wood yard before I cheap sell it. Too much work! I separate all of mine and make smaller splits which seem to yield top prices, along with delivery. Great video 👌🏻
I’m the same way with the tractor. I doubt I’d do firewood without my tractor. But I love being on it. It’s what got me into firewood in the first place. I separate by species also. People seem to prefer it other than the few that don’t care what they burn they just want it cheap but ready to burn/seasoned. Great video!! Enjoyed it!
The Can-Am is looking sharp with those tinted windows. I put that headache rack on immediately. I was worried about blowing the back window out. 😂 but I agree with you the amount of money we all spend in equipment processing firewood. Sometimes I wondered to myself is it really worth it? I’ve switched gears in my system this year to try to maximize profit. I’m also not in it just wear my equipment out turning dollars …I’ll just go to work my regular job and make real money if that’s the case.
Thanks, I love the way the defender turned out. I’ve looked into the headache rack but I have a saw mount mounted on the front of the bed. I always look at it similar to you, I like to try to make at least double my day job hourly wage doing firewood. If I can’t do that there’s no sense in investing in tools and wearing them out when I can just use and wear out the company’s tools for the same money. I love firewood and being outside, but there’s a point where it doesn’t make sense anymore.
GREAT Job on the video ! Yah ya gotta get a Decent price or get out of the game !! You're a Great operator on all of your equipment !! That Ultra has gotta be in the top 5 of ALL splitters !!😊
That’s very true, while some bash the younger generation, they know firewood is work, they don’t want to do it, and they are willing to pay the price. Thanks for stopping by!
Just subbed and really enjoyed the video. You certainly have a nice operation and use your equipment to the max! I'm looking at trading/selling my WR pro28c to get their 17VS to get more precise cuts and to save my back. I like the idea of having the table to work on. See you at the HFH in April. obie
I live in an area that a full cord goes anywhere from 160/cord (picked up) to 300/cord delivered and most of the cheap prices are 20 or so miles into the county so there's not too many people willing to drive that far and load it etc. Another problem is the tree service guys who sell it on the side...they already made a good profit cutting it down and now firewood is the extra cherry on top. I set my price on the higher side if not the highest around here (I think there was one other guy who was the same price) and I sold out of about 20 full cords so I was happy. I just do mixed hardwoods, I dont have the time or space to have separate wood piles, right now I have 2- 20x20 bins stacked wayyyy up so Im guessing they hold about 18-20 full cords and try to keep a bin full for the next year and alternate every year. I dont care if I ever sell wood, I put in a wood stove last year and heat our house 95% of the time and my gas bill has only been about 40-50 bucks a month if that compared to about 3 times that much before the wood stove.
I couldn't agree more with every word you said about selling cheap firewood. I don't work as hard as I do on it to just give it away. If I can't get the price that I want for my wood, it will just sit here in my field until I burn it myself. Good idea about separating your wood to help get the price that you want though. Not sure if that will work up where I'm at though, as we mostly just have Sugar Maple and Birch. Very little else thrown in around here. But it might be worth a shot. It sounds like it definitely helps you by sorting your wood though. And also, I wouldn't know a Hackberry if it bit me on the foot LOL! I don't even think I've ever heard of a Hackberry until a few months ago.
That’s right, no sense in wearing yourself and your body out for free. Hackberry is pretty common around here, it and mulberry seems to grow on the about every field fencerow.
I prefer to sort for sale. I have an 82 townhome HOA that buys 20-30 full cord per year. It's a ski town, so they just get mixed, mostly ash and soft maple, but there's always a bit of everything. Love it better than my day job😂
I live in a very poor part of Ohio but it is also a tourist area called the Hocking Hills. A lot of people are on welfare and cut wood to sell on the side to get money to buy drugs and alcohol with. I can buy a cord of wood for around $100, usually poor quality. I have been cutting wood and heating with wood since 1980. For 6 years I sold wood every Fri. & Sat. during camping season near the state park. I was making $1100 a weekend, but working hard. Now between town and the park [about 11 miles] there are 12 firewood stands and I got down to $120 a weekend I quit. I swell about $900 a year to some campers that know me and I still heat with wood, I only have a John Deere Gator and saws and a Timberwolf splitter for equipment. I can't afford more equipment because I am retired and can't sell enough wood to pay for it. I am 45-60 miles from all parts of Columbus, Oh. but when I figure my time, it isn't worth driving that far to deliver.
I am expensive also but I sell quality very seasoned stuff and not much but I sell out every year. The baseline I use for dry is if it will burn in my EPA Hybrid cat stove. If you know how picky these are you know the wood is dry. Whenever I see someone selling on the cheap I will buy it too as long as I know it will sell after I dry it nicely.
If you take them three woods and market it as bbq smoker wood you could probably go 50 percent more again. Nice little splitter. Keep up the good work.
Hey remember myself as a logger SOLD over 15000 cords for $135 a cord . My order are the smallest is 4to 6 full cords to 8 to 32 full cords order . My homemade processor do easy 5 to 8 semi load that 18.95 to 23.24 CORDS load with a 6 cycle diesel Cummins engine in a day . We say in the 709 go big or stay home 🏠. Off the top 🔝 off my head right now I probably got 11000 cords in yard to go threw processor. Got 5 semi logging truck running two load to mill with pulp wood 🪵 right now . This winter ❄️ is crazy no slow down because we got little snow around . SO DO I SELL WOOD 🪵 or give it away . Hey 👋 come in my woodyard for a face cord or 1/3 off a cord YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR FREE . 😊 Chris in the woodyard buy it for $1$$.00 a cord. MY world 🌎 we work on a true CORD 4’x4’x8’ 128 tight 186 with air crack in it .
It only gets like that when the ground is frozen and it rains a lot, once or twice a year. It was gone shortly after the video. It’s on the list of things to do but where I’m at is flat and not many good ways to fix it.
We don’t get a lot of Osage orange around here and from what I’m told it pops pretty good, so not somthing I’d want to sell to the fireplace buyers. Thanks for stopping by!
The splitter is more like 5k side by side15k tractor 30k that allow him to produce WAY more wood faster and easier and they can be used for many other things.
I Seperate species to make more $. Yes u can make good $ with pine also. During camping season $100- $110/ facecord delivered super dry wood. I Iike getting a bunch of applewood bc its hard to get/ find and i can get $180/ facecords delivered at least. $140 for Hickory, or all birch $130 all oak or cherry $120 mixed hardwoods delivered. I always have 6-14 month seasoned wood. Price premium seasoned firewood higher than your competitors and get alot more good repeat customers.Sell firewood cheap and u tend to get alot more complainers. Boilerwood buyers are the ones who complain the most but yet they won't order it advance to let it dry all summer at their place. Normally deliver 100 cords of slabwood a year and split and sell 120 full cords of firewood a year the past 3 yrs. My prices are 2x what others sell their wet so called seasoned wood. I split everything small,it all drys fast, sell alot of bundles also. Deliver alot of fireplace wood and campfirewood. Deliver 90% of all the wood i sell. Delivery,stacking, being fast and on time always. Adds value. Used to buy and resell wood but now i split so much more wood i don't need to buy wood as often except to get Hickory or apple or if its a good deal thats profitable in the long run. Have 24 cords of ash/birch coming tomorrow. Been logging pines 4 days straight. Many more logging jobs to do. Lots of dead ash,EAB and oak wilt out there. The cheap firewood sellers will work themselves out of business and never grow. Gas aint free and inflation on everything. Firewood is hard work better to be rewarded for your work than to be giving away your time and effort for nothing
The cheap firewood sellers usually don't last long in the game. If you can add value to your firewood in some fashion, that will separate you from the other firewood sellers in your area. The number one way to add value is to sell dry, ready to burn firewood.
That’s right, but every year is the a new person selling full cords for 100$, it looks like crap and is wet but they’ll get business just because they’re cheap.
Good point on separating the wood. I think you can find more customers that want it separated that use wood for heat. Most of our customers are recreational burners, and they don’t even know what the wood species are😂 it can definitely yield you more money if you find the right people. Great video Genin love the set up.👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Todd, even a lot of my recreational burners buy the premium separated wood. They either like cherry campfires that smell nice and hickory campfires to cook food over.
Separating by species and quality is key . I always figured if were gona be in the wood business we might as well go the extra mile and make the wood worth the most it can be . Great video an I like the speed if that ultra .
I agree, take a little extra time and make a better product. Thanks for stopping by Phil!
Good video Genin. I haven't started to separate my wood... maybe I need to rethink that. My formula for maximizing profit has been to sell the smallest volume package possible. Bundles are the highest profit, then 1/4 cords. My prices tend to be on the high side. It all depends on your market. As much as I enjoy it I'm never going to do it for free!
That’s right! If I could sell road side bundles and get full value I’d be interested but not sure that’s feasible in my market. Thanks for stopping by dick.
I’m with you Genin. It can stay in my wood yard before I cheap sell it. Too much work! I separate all of mine and make smaller splits which seem to yield top prices, along with delivery. Great video 👌🏻
Thanks Brandon!
I’m the same way with the tractor. I doubt I’d do firewood without my tractor. But I love being on it. It’s what got me into firewood in the first place.
I separate by species also. People seem to prefer it other than the few that don’t care what they burn they just want it cheap but ready to burn/seasoned.
Great video!! Enjoyed it!
Thanks Jacob, I love my kioti!
Fun video today Genin! Thanks for the chat at the beginning, appreciated hearing your impute on this topic 🔥💯👍. Andrew from NB :)
Thanks Andrew!
The Can-Am is looking sharp with those tinted windows. I put that headache rack on immediately. I was worried about blowing the back window out. 😂 but I agree with you the amount of money we all spend in equipment processing firewood. Sometimes I wondered to myself is it really worth it? I’ve switched gears in my system this year to try to maximize profit. I’m also not in it just wear my equipment out turning dollars …I’ll just go to work my regular job and make real money if that’s the case.
Thanks, I love the way the defender turned out. I’ve looked into the headache rack but I have a saw mount mounted on the front of the bed. I always look at it similar to you, I like to try to make at least double my day job hourly wage doing firewood. If I can’t do that there’s no sense in investing in tools and wearing them out when I can just use and wear out the company’s tools for the same money. I love firewood and being outside, but there’s a point where it doesn’t make sense anymore.
@@765Guys I agree 100% 👍
Thanks for the video. What's the name of the splitter you are using?
@@tmharris51 eastonmade ultra
GREAT Job on the video !
Yah ya gotta get a Decent price or get out of the game !!
You're a Great operator on all of your equipment !!
That Ultra has gotta be in the top 5 of ALL splitters !!😊
I so feel you on cheep . I been at it 35 years . I learned young people will pay for good products. Fire wood is no different.
That’s very true, while some bash the younger generation, they know firewood is work, they don’t want to do it, and they are willing to pay the price. Thanks for stopping by!
Great idea & you make more $$$ selling less wood (= less work). Tim in northern TN
Thanks Tim!
Im with you, firewood is way to much work to sell it cheap!
Definitely!
Just subbed and really enjoyed the video. You certainly have a nice operation and use your equipment to the max! I'm looking at trading/selling my WR pro28c to get their 17VS to get more precise cuts and to save my back. I like the idea of having the table to work on. See you at the HFH in April. obie
Thanks! The 17vs does look really cool, looking forward to HFH!
hi there sounds like a good plan . best to all john
Thanks John!
Smart thinking Genin!👍👍
Thanks!
Good stuff! I also separate red oak from mixed hardwoods and sell the red oak at a premium. Appreciate the video!
Thanks Todd!
I live in an area that a full cord goes anywhere from 160/cord (picked up) to 300/cord delivered and most of the cheap prices are 20 or so miles into the county so there's not too many people willing to drive that far and load it etc. Another problem is the tree service guys who sell it on the side...they already made a good profit cutting it down and now firewood is the extra cherry on top. I set my price on the higher side if not the highest around here (I think there was one other guy who was the same price) and I sold out of about 20 full cords so I was happy. I just do mixed hardwoods, I dont have the time or space to have separate wood piles, right now I have 2- 20x20 bins stacked wayyyy up so Im guessing they hold about 18-20 full cords and try to keep a bin full for the next year and alternate every year. I dont care if I ever sell wood, I put in a wood stove last year and heat our house 95% of the time and my gas bill has only been about 40-50 bucks a month if that compared to about 3 times that much before the wood stove.
Sounds like we are in similar markets. Thanks for stopping by!
I couldn't agree more with every word you said about selling cheap firewood. I don't work as hard as I do on it to just give it away. If I can't get the price that I want for my wood, it will just sit here in my field until I burn it myself. Good idea about separating your wood to help get the price that you want though. Not sure if that will work up where I'm at though, as we mostly just have Sugar Maple and Birch. Very little else thrown in around here. But it might be worth a shot. It sounds like it definitely helps you by sorting your wood though. And also, I wouldn't know a Hackberry if it bit me on the foot LOL! I don't even think I've ever heard of a Hackberry until a few months ago.
That’s right, no sense in wearing yourself and your body out for free. Hackberry is pretty common around here, it and mulberry seems to grow on the about every field fencerow.
I prefer to sort for sale. I have an 82 townhome HOA that buys 20-30 full cord per year. It's a ski town, so they just get mixed, mostly ash and soft maple, but there's always a bit of everything. Love it better than my day job😂
What a great account to have! Thanks for stopping by Derek, have a great day!
You have the right idea to make your workspace Back friendly - wish I would have been smart enough to do that at your age!
Thanks! I herniated a disc 7 years ago, so going forward Ive tried to do what I can to make things easier. Thanks for watching!
@@765Guys ouch that sounds painful. Also, if I could hit rewind I would have worn hearing protection! What??
Nice one my good man!
Thanks Chris!
I live in a very poor part of Ohio but it is also a tourist area called the Hocking Hills. A lot of people are on welfare and cut wood to sell on the side to get money to buy drugs and alcohol with. I can buy a cord of wood for around $100, usually poor quality. I have been cutting wood and heating with wood since 1980. For 6 years I sold wood every Fri. & Sat. during camping season near the state park. I was making $1100 a weekend, but working hard. Now between town and the park [about 11 miles] there are 12 firewood stands and I got down to $120 a weekend I quit. I swell about $900 a year to some campers that know me and I still heat with wood, I only have a John Deere Gator and saws and a Timberwolf splitter for equipment. I can't afford more equipment because I am retired and can't sell enough wood to pay for it. I am 45-60 miles from all parts of Columbus, Oh. but when I figure my time, it isn't worth driving that far to deliver.
I am expensive also but I sell quality very seasoned stuff and not much but I sell out every year. The baseline I use for dry is if it will burn in my EPA Hybrid cat stove. If you know how picky these are you know the wood is dry. Whenever I see someone selling on the cheap I will buy it too as long as I know it will sell after I dry it nicely.
That is a good point on the epa stoves, Thanks for watching!
If you take them three woods and market it as bbq smoker wood you could probably go 50 percent more again. Nice little splitter. Keep up the good work.
That’s a very good idea, Thanks for watching!
Good advice. Cheers
Thanks!
Any concerns when you get the occasional Ant issue when splitting the wood ?
They go away once the wood dries ? Thnx…
Yes I think when it’s split and drying the ants or bugs go away. Thanks for watching!
I do like fast single wedge splitters for splitting perfect pieces.
I need to bring it over so you can give it a whirl!
@@765Guys I would be interested to see if it’s any quicker than mine
The Hackberry takes a while to dry out, doesn’t it?
@@MikeMcguire-fn7zy 6-8 months in good conditions
Great video
Thanks!
How wide is your big bucket. Brand?
72” express steel, thanks for watching!
Hey remember myself as a logger SOLD over 15000 cords for $135 a cord . My order are the smallest is 4to 6 full cords to 8 to 32 full cords order . My homemade processor do easy 5 to 8 semi load that 18.95 to 23.24 CORDS load with a 6 cycle diesel Cummins engine in a day . We say in the 709 go big or stay home 🏠. Off the top 🔝 off my head right now I probably got 11000 cords in yard to go threw processor. Got 5 semi logging truck running two load to mill with pulp wood 🪵 right now . This winter ❄️ is crazy no slow down because we got little snow around . SO DO I SELL WOOD 🪵 or give it away . Hey 👋 come in my woodyard for a face cord or 1/3 off a cord YOU CAN HAVE IT FOR FREE . 😊 Chris in the woodyard buy it for $1$$.00 a cord. MY world 🌎 we work on a true CORD 4’x4’x8’ 128 tight 186 with air crack in it .
Ultra is so fast!
It is, I like it a lot!
50% extra is a nice bump in profit, if your selling out that early maybe your not charging enough.🙃😂
That may Be true, I think next year I may bump the premium woods up again. I have plenty of the lower grade woods left. Thanks for watching!
Fix that drainage issue! Moisture is the devil….and it’s looks bad for business. Do something!?! 😂
It only gets like that when the ground is frozen and it rains a lot, once or twice a year. It was gone shortly after the video. It’s on the list of things to do but where I’m at is flat and not many good ways to fix it.
Well if oak and cherry are premium whats osage orange get you. Ahah all you conasoirs¿??
We don’t get a lot of Osage orange around here and from what I’m told it pops pretty good, so not somthing I’d want to sell to the fireplace buyers. Thanks for stopping by!
Let me see 20000 dollar spliter 40000 dollar side by side 100000 dollar tractor you better not sell it cheap
Those prices are exaggerated extremely. My tractor and side by side are used for firewood but that’s not the main reason I have them.
The splitter is more like 5k side by side15k tractor 30k that allow him to produce WAY more wood faster and easier and they can be used for many other things.
I Seperate species to make more $. Yes u can make good $ with pine also. During camping season $100- $110/ facecord delivered super dry wood. I Iike getting a bunch of applewood bc its hard to get/ find and i can get $180/ facecords delivered at least. $140 for Hickory, or all birch
$130 all oak or cherry
$120 mixed hardwoods delivered. I always have 6-14 month seasoned wood. Price premium seasoned firewood higher than your competitors and get alot more good repeat customers.Sell firewood cheap and u tend to get alot more complainers. Boilerwood buyers are the ones who complain the most but yet they won't order it advance to let it dry all summer at their place. Normally deliver 100 cords of slabwood a year and split and sell 120 full cords of firewood a year the past 3 yrs. My prices are 2x what others sell their wet so called seasoned wood. I split everything small,it all drys fast, sell alot of bundles also. Deliver alot of fireplace wood and campfirewood. Deliver 90% of all the wood i sell. Delivery,stacking, being fast and on time always. Adds value. Used to buy and resell wood but now i split so much more wood i don't need to buy wood as often except to get Hickory or apple or if its a good deal thats profitable in the long run. Have 24 cords of ash/birch coming tomorrow. Been logging pines 4 days straight. Many more logging jobs to do. Lots of dead ash,EAB and oak wilt out there. The cheap firewood sellers will work themselves out of business and never grow. Gas aint free and inflation on everything. Firewood is hard work better to be rewarded for your work than to be giving away your time and effort for nothing
Hey Genin , good video . I’ve been trying to separate my wood also . Have a good one . 👍🏻🪵🔥
Thanks del, I don’t think it’s super important to separate wood except the premium stuff that has great demand. Have a good one!