The most beautiful and integral words I have ever heard. Ken Wilber is a blessed teacher and enlightened Master, we are so grateful for him and his work. Spirit pierced my heart and tears of rejoicing are flowing as I am filled with bliss, Love, and Unity with all Beings.
If we make it as a species another 500 years, Wilber will no doubt be thought of as one of the great philosophers of America ever created and of all time. Thanks Ken for inspiring me to fulfill my potential and modeling for me authentic leadership at it’s finest!
My heart throbs with bliss when I catch glimpses of the Christ consciousness Ken eloquently articulates in this video. Hands I Gasho, wishing Ken health and long life to continue to be the Bhodissatva manjushri, showering us with his gifts.
Thank You for posting this. Thank You Ken for you're continuing to help us better figure it all out, to help us understand where we are and where we are wanting to be and how we might get there. I know you speak from your heart and that you share your Love. Love to All
Each of us have unlimited capacity for the flow of love. If you ponder on everything that restricts its flow , they all restrictions point towards your own thoughts, perceptions, conditioning, beliefs, feelings and opinions. Loose your egoic identity and love will hurl you into whirlwind quality of being that seems otherworldly...
The Universe is so self organizing. I can't think of anything more chaotic than a big bang and now look what we have, created by a force much more staggering than the puny human mind. Music, art, love, hate, brains, well everything ... thank you Universe, which we all our, every cell and atom in our body ... peace
Truly amazing ..true intelligence at work. One thing I find so amazing is that after the big bang all these protons, neutrons, and electrons came together to form elements and so many different ones as in the periodic table. How did they now what element to make and why did they stop .. absolutely amazing. Thanks Ken
una persona que lee 100 libros diarios , no creo que sea un seudo intelectual , ni docmatico , me molesta cuando gente ignorante , no es la gente analfabeta , es la gente que esta llena de docmas y super EGOS QUE TODO LO CLASIFICAN TODO LO RETUERSEN ,es tanto su miedo al fracaso que cuando les ocurre se derrumban por completo , KEN WILBER es una eminencia en estos temas ...agradecida ..
yea I know about that. just a few months ago I was in an auto accident and I was dead for few minutes. they had to revive me. and the near death experience was so real that I belive that there is something after for sure
(Part II) "Let not this life and its deceits deceive you, for the world and all that is therein is held firmly in the grasp of His Will. He bestoweth His favor on whom He willeth, and from whom He willeth He taketh it away...Had the world been of any worth in His sight, He surely would never have allowed His enemies to possess it, even to the extent of a grain of mustard seed... Are ye rejoicing in the things which, according to the estimate of God, are contemptible and worthless?" -Baha'u'llah
@conferencereport you come here with a clear intent to hate on the personality of Ken Wilber and his cultural image - rather then sincerely examine all of his ideas and read his books. I've done that, and although I'm not a religious Wilber fan, I can see so much that is remarkably useful to modern philosophers ( especially in merging western and eastern philosophy).
@conferencereport the universe does, as Ken observes, organize itself into higher levels of 'unity'. you could be more scientific about it and say that novelty increase - organized complexity increases over time by using previous established levels of complexity as a platform. Eros is simply a step deeper and claiming that this is related to the desire built within us - the Will Shoepenhauer called it. instead of being a pessimist, Ken sees it is as joyous and beautiful.
I think he would ask how life got to that point in the first place. How sub-atomic particles formed extraordinarily complex molecules, then they form very complex organisms. Isn't that evidence for self-organization occuring from the beginning?
@presentlightoftruth "A personal relationship with the Holy Spirit is the only way." Only way to what? Live? Live happily? Live morally? Live eternally? What?
your view is as good as mine so to speak.. The trouble is with your word 'formed' as if there was some cause or reason for a sub-atomic particle to make up your lunch.. True, if we analyze your lunch or a world war for example we might find particles there.. the problem is, this doesn't prove causality only correlation. Meaning: I don't need to make my lunch by thinking of sub-atomic particles, if you know what I mean.. It's not as if the particles come together without me to make a sandwich..
I wonder how Ken would deal with Adam Curtis's assertion that self-organization doesn't exist in the universe except in the human nervous system. The idea of autopoiesis, self-organizing organisms, ecological system's theory, etc, do not exist in nature and is really just a theoretical projection of our own, based on Norbert Wiener's idea of feedback loops that led to the so called cybernetic revolution, personal computers etc. Ecology as feedback doesn't exist apparently, only dynamism...
Hang on, not too fast... 'Evolution' is an idea within biology to do with the progress of species,'survival of the fittest' etc. The 'progress' in this theory does not imply better necessarily, but refers to the 'how'. That is to say, the word 'progress' can mean improvements over time or 'mere progress' as in movement.. As far as I know, what you're talking about sounds like some sort of cosmology (a philosophical worldview) not based on facts. The fact, as of now, do not show what the links
It's a strange path from not being your thoughts, ideas, emotions etc. To being all there is. Its a paradox like most things when you consider non duality being primary and un speakable to this, moment by moment by moment...
Too bad Wilber never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had he done so, he would realize that all his wonderful ideas are an illusion that exist only in language. He's talking as though what he's saying actually exists outside of his mind.
alll these ideas are illusions manifesting separation from oneLove....the big bang being the original separation and creation of duality..true, we now can reestablish or should I say remember our oneness by realizing the illusion of the original separation
An incredibly simplistic and deceptive account of how the universe works, clearly intended to provoke a feel-good response even at the expense of common sense and good science. Nice job Ken, way to sell more of your crappy snake oil. Video response to follow.
Love? What can we truly say about love that isn't already bastardized by the media, the corporate take-over of the Love Generation, or the word 'authentic' on a mass-produced T-shirt made in a sweatshop in Indonesia? Love? Love is surely not talking about love; then, bend over backwards to worship one's own words on the subject. Surely, it's about acting in the world. Get out there and love thy neighbour..! Stop dropping bombs, stop polluting, be kind. That's all.. We don't need Ken 4 this..
@conferencereport and automatically we should throw away any sort of explanation or hypothesis, because it makes us feel good? electromagnetic theory makes me feel good, sincerely, should that be a kind of sign that it's of no use to me and only intended to make me feel good? some things in this world will provoke emotion and passion, independent of their validity. what Ken describes is more of a thought experiment then a scientific theorem.
(Part I) I like Ken Wilber and he is certainly right that we are all evolving and love is behind that. However, his understanding is slightly deluded because he hasn't accepted the Manifestation of God for this day. Ultimately, it is not about this world, this universe, or even the multiverse. This world is an illusion and God is what is real. Now we are all so attached to this world it seems like God is the illusion.
cont'd ..do not show what the links are between matter and mind, sub-atomic particles, atoms, molecules, cells.. the overriding 'thing' or 'substance' or 'field of energy' or 'God' or whatever you want to call it that binds all these different domains of phenomena is pure speculation at present.. No one really knows what the connection is between sub-atomic particles and world wars for example.. To assume some sort of connection only gets us into troubling superstitions or rather opinions where.
The most beautiful and integral words I have ever heard. Ken Wilber is a blessed teacher and enlightened Master, we are so grateful for him and his work. Spirit pierced my heart and tears of rejoicing are flowing as I am filled with bliss, Love, and Unity with all Beings.
the most beautiful speach I have heard from him. How inspiring ❤
If we make it as a species another 500 years, Wilber will no doubt be thought of as one of the great philosophers of America ever created and of all time. Thanks Ken for inspiring me to fulfill my potential and modeling for me authentic leadership at it’s finest!
True. His work is ahead of his time and will be appreciated a lot more in the future.
This is so amazing and helpful for us and many generations to come. Thank you Ken.
My heart throbs with bliss when I catch glimpses of the Christ consciousness Ken eloquently articulates in this video. Hands I Gasho, wishing Ken health and long life to continue to be the Bhodissatva manjushri, showering us with his gifts.
Where love rules, there is no will to power;
and where power predominates, there love is lacking.
The one is the shadow of the other.
~ Carl Jung
Thank You for posting this. Thank You Ken for you're continuing to help us better figure it all out, to help us understand where we are and where we are wanting to be and how we might get there. I know you speak from your heart and that you share your Love. Love to All
Each of us have unlimited capacity for the flow of love. If you ponder on everything that restricts its flow , they all restrictions point towards your own thoughts, perceptions, conditioning, beliefs, feelings and opinions. Loose your egoic identity and love will hurl you into whirlwind quality of being that seems otherworldly...
The Universe is so self organizing. I can't think of anything more chaotic than a big bang and now look what we have, created by a force much more staggering than the puny human mind. Music, art, love, hate, brains, well everything ... thank you Universe, which we all our, every cell and atom in our body ... peace
Truly amazing ..true intelligence at work. One thing I find so amazing is that after the big bang all these protons, neutrons, and electrons came together to form elements and so many different ones as in the periodic table. How did they now what element to make and why did they stop .. absolutely amazing. Thanks Ken
I'm glad to see he's healthy.
I am so glad to have found this
So good.
Thank you.
una persona que lee 100 libros diarios , no creo que sea un seudo intelectual , ni docmatico , me molesta cuando gente ignorante , no es la gente analfabeta , es la gente que esta llena de docmas y super EGOS QUE TODO LO CLASIFICAN TODO LO RETUERSEN ,es tanto su miedo al fracaso que cuando les ocurre se derrumban por completo , KEN WILBER es una eminencia en estos temas ...agradecida ..
yea I know about that. just a few months ago I was in an auto accident and I was dead for few minutes. they had to revive me. and the near death experience was so real that I belive that there is something after for sure
Ken wilber ♥️
@alliant Thanks for the comment. I've read all his books too and my opinion still stands.
(Part II)
"Let not this life and its deceits deceive you, for the world and all that is therein is held firmly in the grasp of His Will. He bestoweth His favor on whom He willeth, and from whom He willeth He taketh it away...Had the world been of any worth in His sight, He surely would never have allowed His enemies to possess it, even to the extent of a grain of mustard seed... Are ye rejoicing in the things which, according to the estimate of God, are contemptible and worthless?" -Baha'u'llah
beautiful
he is talkin bout God
@conferencereport
you come here with a clear intent to hate on the personality of Ken Wilber and his cultural image - rather then sincerely examine all of his ideas and read his books. I've done that, and although I'm not a religious Wilber fan, I can see so much that is remarkably useful to modern philosophers ( especially in merging western and eastern philosophy).
Great talk, great ideas, but i think this conception of self and cosmos is incomplete without the integration of Tim Freke's idea of Unividualism
@conferencereport
the universe does, as Ken observes, organize itself into higher levels of 'unity'. you could be more scientific about it and say that novelty increase - organized complexity increases over time by using previous established levels of complexity as a platform. Eros is simply a step deeper and claiming that this is related to the desire built within us - the Will Shoepenhauer called it. instead of being a pessimist, Ken sees it is as joyous and beautiful.
Amor.
@swopard I have no idea what you mean.
I think he would ask how life got to that point in the first place. How sub-atomic particles formed extraordinarily complex molecules, then they form very complex organisms. Isn't that evidence for self-organization occuring from the beginning?
@presentlightoftruth "A personal relationship with the Holy Spirit is the only way." Only way to what? Live? Live happily? Live morally? Live eternally? What?
your view is as good as mine so to speak.. The trouble is with your word 'formed' as if there was some cause or reason for a sub-atomic particle to make up your lunch.. True, if we analyze your lunch or a world war for example we might find particles there.. the problem is, this doesn't prove causality only correlation. Meaning: I don't need to make my lunch by thinking of sub-atomic particles, if you know what I mean.. It's not as if the particles come together without me to make a sandwich..
@MomentsGap Well, he has been sick for a long while too.
I wonder how Ken would deal with Adam Curtis's assertion that self-organization doesn't exist in the universe except in the human nervous system. The idea of autopoiesis, self-organizing organisms, ecological system's theory, etc, do not exist in nature and is really just a theoretical projection of our own, based on Norbert Wiener's idea of feedback loops that led to the so called cybernetic revolution, personal computers etc. Ecology as feedback doesn't exist apparently, only dynamism...
@TheTommiekelly Still a legend tho.
@JAYDUBYAH29 true. I have removed it.
@conferencereport Video response not accepted - watch?v=sICSZjiljVs
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Hang on, not too fast... 'Evolution' is an idea within biology to do with the progress of species,'survival of the fittest' etc. The 'progress' in this theory does not imply better necessarily, but refers to the 'how'. That is to say, the word 'progress' can mean improvements over time or 'mere progress' as in movement.. As far as I know, what you're talking about sounds like some sort of cosmology (a philosophical worldview) not based on facts. The fact, as of now, do not show what the links
Big Bang??..Love?....
It's a strange path from not being your thoughts, ideas, emotions etc. To being all there is. Its a paradox like most things when you consider non duality being primary and un speakable to this, moment by moment by moment...
Too bad Wilber never truly got to the place that there is no meaning in the universe without language. Had he done so, he would realize that all his wonderful ideas are an illusion that exist only in language. He's talking as though what he's saying actually exists outside of his mind.
alll these ideas are illusions manifesting separation from oneLove....the big bang being the original separation and creation of duality..true, we now can reestablish or should I say remember our oneness by realizing the illusion of the original separation
@smallpotatoes989 rude comment. most likely has more to do with his serious longterm illness, medications and seizures.
An incredibly simplistic and deceptive account of how the universe works, clearly intended to provoke a feel-good response even at the expense of common sense and good science. Nice job Ken, way to sell more of your crappy snake oil. Video response to follow.
Love? What can we truly say about love that isn't already bastardized by the media, the corporate take-over of the Love Generation, or the word 'authentic' on a mass-produced T-shirt made in a sweatshop in Indonesia? Love? Love is surely not talking about love; then, bend over backwards to worship one's own words on the subject. Surely, it's about acting in the world. Get out there and love thy neighbour..! Stop dropping bombs, stop polluting, be kind. That's all.. We don't need Ken 4 this..
@conferencereport
and automatically we should throw away any sort of explanation or hypothesis, because it makes us feel good? electromagnetic theory makes me feel good, sincerely, should that be a kind of sign that it's of no use to me and only intended to make me feel good? some things in this world will provoke emotion and passion, independent of their validity. what Ken describes is more of a thought experiment then a scientific theorem.
(Part I)
I like Ken Wilber and he is certainly right that we are all evolving and love is behind that. However, his understanding is slightly deluded because he hasn't accepted the Manifestation of God for this day. Ultimately, it is not about this world, this universe, or even the multiverse. This world is an illusion and God is what is real. Now we are all so attached to this world it seems like God is the illusion.
I don't think you understand his ideas at all
@JAYDUBYAH29 High five.
@JoshwithaJ i think he means it's the only way to be as annoyingly deluded a religious zealot as possible...
cont'd ..do not show what the links are between matter and mind, sub-atomic particles, atoms, molecules, cells.. the overriding 'thing' or 'substance' or 'field of energy' or 'God' or whatever you want to call it that binds all these different domains of phenomena is pure speculation at present.. No one really knows what the connection is between sub-atomic particles and world wars for example.. To assume some sort of connection only gets us into troubling superstitions or rather opinions where.
No thanks. I can read.
sorry to everyone watching, but Ken has lost the plot here.
don't worry this is PURE BRAIN DAMAGE~! we're not ALL one awareness. you are (not) alone.
wow he aged so much :(
Oh dear, another pseudo-intellectual preying on the vulnerable.
Sell out.