Clean Up, Wake Up, Grow Up - Ken Wilber
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2019
- Useful practices for transitioning from the 1st to the 2nd tier of human development.
We are continuing our big interview with philosopher Ken Wilber, the creator of Integral Theory and one of the key figures in the area of consciousness studies of our time.
In the following two videos we talk about useful practices for waking up, growing up, cleaning up, and showing up for life, i.e. for transitioning from the 1st onto the 2nd tier of human development.
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Thanks for not interrupting him and letting this man talk phenomenal work ❤❤
I was a, "Zen Teenager" that ended up with severe PTSD and, "mild social displacement" due to being, "super woken up" in the contemplative sense (many hours on the mat, working through the Cloud of Unknowing/Ascent of Mt. Carmel, Vedanta) but not having adequate development in the, "showing up" and, "growing up" sphere. I'm so excited about these new developments as it seems like we can take, "the kids" and get them, "where they want to go" without the, "years of drug abuse and strained relationships" that can sometimes accompany the path.
Instead of Dark Nights of the Soul we might have Bright Nights of Divine Kirtan. Hare Krsna. All glories to Her Divine Grace Srimati Sri Lekha Devi Dasi our beloved Siksa Guru and teacher. Life's now good. For now!
Beautiful comment. Thank you for sharing. Glad you’re doing well
@@GavDuggan1983 Thanks for reading pal. All the best.
The first half of this holds the best 8-minute description of "shadow work" or "cleaning up" I've ever found. Thank you, Ken Wilber and Future Thinkers
This!
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Cleaning up refers to heart,
Growing up refers to intellect and
Waking up refers to Self.
Cleaning up is psychological,
Growing up is philosophical and
Waking up is spiritual.
While cleaning up and
Growing up make you sane,
Waking up makes you a Saint.
But in Vedic system, the three are hierarchical. You cannot grow up unless you clean up, and you cannot wake up unless you grow up sufficiently.
Ken's final words in this video were profound. What a horrible idea to stop growing after graduating college, and yet I did it.
ken wilber says the shadow has only been around for 100 years or so and that's true, but in Vedic traditions the idea of samskaras (repressed energies) has been around for 5000 or whatever years ... and it sounds quite similar (blocked energies that you hold on to or push away get stored into your unconscious)
Ken Wilber doesn't know everything.
Yes , in spite of his broad knowledge of eastern systems, he still comes off as a dilettante and has such a hard time not taking some of the credit for Johnny-come-lately western systems of knowledge, which he is so invested in and which he adores. His models are useful though, but certainly not complete.
😏😆🤣 Ken would never mentioned that the Psychiatric complex along with the Pharmaceutical complex
have done more harm than good.
Hence he uses cliche terms like *clinically depressed* &
*working with a therapist*
He seems to think that everyone is broken inside &
needs to clean-up.
I obviously disagree with this late 19th century nonsense...whatever
@@airmark02 - He is mostly assessing Western Civilization which is a baby compared to Eastern cultures...
@@PippiBarbieri
Yes this late 19th century model of psychological pathology that has been a new way for the elite voice of authority & cultural control to replace the *original sin trigger*
The God of the DSM will always demand our obedience.
Because we are somehow broken inside.
No Thanks 😏
Thank you again Ken. Your passion to bring insight/recommendations to/for human immaturity is understandable. Especially given the present engrained problems humanity, as a whole, have demonstrated thus far. It is "fair enough" to say, as a generalization, that the unconscious shadow is/has not been sufficiently dealt with by humanity, in any arena of life. And, yes!, also in the pursuit of religious and spiritual seekers who are often desperately needy because of thier feeling awareness of human problems and suffering. Thus deeply yearning for freedom. Seekers, who are either beginning students or advanced students or even adept practitioners, playing whatever roles within any old or new tradition/ culture/program, are often vulnerable to being unconsciously activated (making choices) and moved by these unconscious cyclical repetivtive universal/cosmic forces that define all beings (gross, subtle or causal).
Adi Da's life and teachings and process were given and based upon and are precisely about the ego act, identity/experience/content/patterning (shadow play) that obstructs True Freedom (not about delusions, bypass or escape).
I personally understand and responsibly practice beyond (in full excruciating detail) this "shawdow/light dynamic". It is a constant struggle and ordeal. Coined, comprehensively, as radical understanding of "the psycho biography of the ego" in relationship to the whole "esoteric anatomy of the body-mind-self", unique to each human being.
This radical process in Reality Itself, practiced in detail via self- understanding, encompasses, embraces, takes responsibility for all of what you necessarliy, easily and clearly speak of here. Awakening growth and full Realization is not possible otherwise.
There are deluded cultists who assume and pronounce otherwise...
In equally necessary addition to what you elaborate on, Adi Da reveals the Source/ Context of Conscious Light that is Being-Reality Self, (all inclusive) radiating Love Bliss ("beyond" Witness, which is non exclusive of all arising) that enables, by illumination/transmision, constant and all prevading, True resonsibility and matured developmental freedom relative to all aspects of life and relationships, universally.
It is also clear very few people were/are keen to embrace Adi Da's Heart Wisdom Way because it is real and a most difficult ordeal of growth, outgrowing and awakening and "selfless" service. This new and unique yoga that takes full responsibility for shadow and ego self transcendence, can only happen via awakened intuition, recognized Divine Self Condition which enables unqualified in love relatiinship to all beings and things.
At Adi Da's time of death he indicated NO one had sufficiently responded to his work or teaching, nor tested and proved or authenticated what he brought into this world.
Even all those who have ever responded to Adi Da and his life work have yet to fully understand and embrace, coopetatively test and prove or fully respect what he offered.
Do you feel you have sufficiently responded in order to Radically understand your own shadow personna and activity?
This question is being asked here in response to your not acknowledging the profound details within Adi Da's Teachings, that go into remarkable depth, around the matters addressed here in this interview. You open by stating this insight is absent on the world stage of processes offered.
Yes, absent in terms of individual and cultural demonstration. Yet not absent as if there has never been any teacher or Realizer who elucidated these key matters of responsibility nor demonstrated this kind of humanly responsible religious, spiritual transcendental transfiguration or transformation process.
This is simply not true. Adi Da has.
I heart intuite you are aware of this....and are even attempting to carry forth with much of Adi Da's Teachings? Yet, without Adi Da, the "controversialsource", being consistently given due respect and gratefully acknowledged. Doing so without also drawing unbalanced negative attention to "his flaws".
This error is a diservice to humanity. Especially seekers.
My heart prayer is that you, by going beyond your own shadow impulses, are able to correct this deliberately public rebuke of Adi Da that you have chosen to put out into the world. ❤
So grateful for Ken Wilber. So grateful for this interview.
I have known about ken Wilber for years, but finally got listen to him! What a brilliant compassionate spirit to freely and dynamically share his depth of wisdom with humanity. You can tell that His head/Brain vibrates at very high frequency❤️🙏
I am from Germany. Some books from Ken are not translatet here in our country. And for me difficult to translate. But I try to learn English. "Religion of tomorrow " for example .But , whatever I' ve read from Him - It' s great. He would be a great chance for the whole world in time. It' s my meaning. Greetings to Kenneth and all his Integral Readers all over the world. I must learn English ......so long
Replace The System of White Supremacy Racism with the System of Justice/Balance between People where no one is mistreated on the basis of Color or any reason.
@@bodor.o.c.k.s4938 On the bright side, you get to read Goethe in its original german. Not to mention Kant, Wittgenstein, Schopenhauer, etc
Thank you for letting him talk, unlike many podcasters that interrupt their hosts unnecessarily
The world is you pushed out. That's what I'm getting from that first bit and it's so true. I worked a lot on this for a while and noticed people 'treated' me way better and with more respect because I felt more respect for myself. Also got my favourite job. Interesting!
Neville Goddard repeatedly says the world is you pushed out. 👍
Not sure I’ve ever learned so much within 30 minutes
3 cheers for Ken! He inspired me to take up and integral practice 12 years ago. His books make my brain explode. :-)
Witch book did you like the most ? With one do you recommand for "integral practices" purpose ? Thanks.
@@florentcouturier7465 hello Florent, which book i likes best depends a bit. I first red " Grace and gritt", beautifull book, very personal. Then I red "the simple feeling of being." But if you are looking for a book specifically about the practice, there's " integral life practice " it gives a good overview about the possibilities for practice. I just read "one Taste" and I am starting in "Seks, ecology, spirituality" I really started to understand Wilber after listening to the " cosmic consciousness" audio books. That did it for me!
It's a bit a tricky question because i wouldn't recommend a book for An integral practice. That covers only the "mind" I do zazen, yoga, shadow work, reading, sports Or something fysical, parenting, shiatsu and so many more things on a daily basis as practice. I make sure to include body, mind, soul, spirit and shadow.
@@pplasqui thanks, it's an helpfull testimony. I will think about it.
@@pplasqui he wrote a book called Integral life practice and did so for a reason, because he gives a model for how to go about it where you can fill in the gaps for each part of your practice with methods that work for you. ie, choose weight ttraining or yoga for bofy work
What a great teacher
Owning the third person monster a real game-changer. Thank you so much!!.
Amazing Interview, Thank
Thank you very much for this precise explanation
It's just priceless. Thank you!
Totally blown away! Wow. Thank you!!!!! 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow, thank you for this video. Very helpful
He’s amazing ! ❤️💕❤️absolutely love this!
Ken really is a gift. I hope he lives another 15-20 years, that is to say, long enough to see the power of AI create mass enlightenment for the West, which is going to happen in that time frame, or it will never happen at all, and we will doom ourselves.
Ken perfectly elucidates here what happened with many Eastern spiritual teachers who came to the West, and Western teachers too for that matter, who went astray so notoriously in the 1970s-80s (and still to some extent today).
Chogyam Trungpa is the perfect example. There is no doubt that Trungpa had woken up to some extent. But he never cleaned up or grew up. His alcoholism and womanizing was excused by his disciples as "He never concealed his behaviour or said it was an example to follow". But now we know that he snorted a lot of cocaine. This he DID conceal from his disciplines, not least because it's illegal, and in the time when he was doing it, VERY illegal - if he'd been busted, he would have gone to prison forever, and destroyed his spiritual community. He also had a 15-year-old 'consort' (!) who he eventually tired of, and she killed herself. The guy was an asshole, and there is no excusing that kind of behaviour, no matter what claims to 'attainment' you may have.
Trungpa was dead at 47. All of the excuses which he made to himself did not save him from the chemical effects of booze. His deluded wife claimed his death was due to diabetes, but his doctor made clear it was due to cirrhosis of the liver brought on by alcoholism. Trungpa maintained a remarkable clarity and equanimity through his dying process, according to his nurse, but then again, so do many people. He definitely had some degree of spiritual power, but again, so do many human trainwrecks.
More importantly, imagine what he could have been if he'd have done everything that Wilber advises here. He might still be alive and teaching and contributing today. But he may have been too arrogant to listen to such 'Western' advice, which is its own problem to this day in Eastern spiritual communities.
This is sooooo good ...Thank you!!!!
I'm surprised that this video doesn't have millions of views.
I’m not. Lol
Ken Wilber - He da Man!!!.. thanks Ken
The vast openness, infinity, detached and just witnessing I have with me since birth.
I have found it incredibly difficult to participate and take anything particularly seriously.
It's useful to hear Ken taki about this witness experience.
Ken Wilber. Thank you. Found that useful
Great interview! Thanks!
I like the way Ken thinks about the subject of waking up. The only thing that gave me pause was when he said that the awareness of or discovery of "shadow material" is only 100 years old. This is simply not true, at least not in the way we talk about other discoveries, such as electricity. We have known and talked 'shadow material' in many ways for millennia. It is an intuitive part of the human experience especially for those on the journey of waking up. Plenty schools of thought have talked about looking past our waking minds to understand our true beliefs in the ancient world. These beliefs are grounded in our experiences (i.e. trauma) and our interpretation of those experiences. Look towards the many sects of Buddhism for an example.
We have made progress though of course and I believe this is what Ken points out. Freud popularized (in the West) the understanding that our childhood experiences shape our behavior. Moreover, modern neuroscience has shown us how the 'body keeps score.'
Be Okay
The best explanation of shadow integration!
Thanks for the speech Mr ken Wilber. You’ll be under protect of god🙏
Great teaching!
Absolutely brilliant very understandable,
Growing Up: Take the Role of Other
Waking Up: “not this, not that”-you are the Witness disidentified from all the seen objects
Cleaning Up: 3-2-1 Shadow Integrating
You put them all as “Growing Up” 24:10. Thought I’d let you know so nobody gets confused 🤓
Alex Michelli yes this was confusing at 24:10. Thank you for pointing it out and clarifying it.
Thanks Alex!
Thanks!
Wow. Thank you.
A Brilliant human being
The idea which is now (after Freud and Jung) expressed as 'projecting your shadow onto someone else' is present in some ancient sources. E.g.: "Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not see the beam that is in your own eye?" (Luke 6:41). Also, the Old Testament story which the prophet Nathan tells king David (the story of the lamb: 2 Samuel 12:1-7): "David said to Nathan, “As the Lord lives, the man who did this deserves to die." (...) Then Nathan told David, “You are this man!" ".
EXCELLENT interview
Was so bad doe.
I think he just blew up some peoples minds
Great video!!
Agree with other comments; gratefulness! Thx for sharing!
So interesting how the discovery of the process of growing up and cleaning up are so recent in human evolution. Ken often explains how no tradition has been able to really consider these processes up until now. I am wondering about practices such as approaching one's Kleshas ("mind poisons"), e.g. in the Vajrayana tradition. It seems to be a form of shadow integration. Or Tonglen, where the practice of feeling the emotions of another seems similar to the growing up practice of taking the role of the other.
Perhaps these examples (from e.g. Tibetan Buddhism) approach growing up and waking up more from an energetic perspective rather than a psychological one? I'm curious how that fits together 🤔
Can it not be that some ancient teachings, at least in a way, address the cleaning up and growing up processes?
22:07 Growing self vs TRUE SELF
24:00 Exercise steps
wish you breakthrough into enlightenment
Fakethrough maybe..
Thanks for this amazing and rich conversation ! Maybe could you discuss more about this process of cleaning-up and Growing-up ? Because if waking-up is well knows (relatively speaking with mindfullness), the two other process are quitte unknown except for maybe the circle of the professionnals. So, quitte some good knowledge ! I want more !
Thx to future Thinker channel !
@@alexmichelli3516
Thanks for the amount of time you spend for answering my drive for knowledge. I wish you a good day ! Best regards.
@@alexmichelli3516Thank you for such an effort and really deep answer. But, as "His Story" will show in the future, and already did to some, the word "Slave" was created out of the first ethnic human group on earth which were enslaved. The Slavic people (Slavs) who are in fact the Caucasian type you just stated in you really good answer. The Slavs, thats were the name "Slave" derives from. "His Story" lies in a lot of things. The "one" who writes and wrote it, is and was the ruler of reality. But its time, that we humans understand, correct and than write our own story. A lot of things have been distorted to false narratives in the history which have led to many conflicts and chaos. Like today, everything "bad" or negative is pointed towards the "caucasian" type. Not directly, but subliminal. That is not fair. Most people would not even have the tools and technologies they use to criticize this ethnicity if they haven't invented it before. I know, that is a bit unfair and arrogant. And yes, there are a lot oft ethnic groups been shunned and destroyed by wrong and distorted stories of the history. Not only the Caucasians.
But I am not in any shape or form someone who wants to create conflict in any way. Just have to correct wrong things narratives. And I am not stating, that Caucasians didn't traded slaves either. Just the general notion, that the "whites" or caucasians are the founders of slavery and have startet is just wrong. And a devastating belief. Africans were sold by africans, arabs and jews much longer before. And slavs much longer before that into north african countries, too. Just wanted to correct the wrong narrative and collective framing which is going on far too long. Not all bad things came from the "whites" or "caucasians". There are some today, who want you to believe in that. That why they call it "His Story". Whose story?^^
And yes, from a worldcentric point of view: We are all the same "structure" in just some different shapes and forms due to different environmental circumstances and influences. Love to you all
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The shadow is none other than a internal battle. Others are reflections of self and so in this way even my enemy is family. No need to change the shadow, just make friends with it as this is a huge huge thing that is our selves.
Would love to hear him talk about fourth, fifth, etc. Perspectives.
I SEE!
This is absolutely amazing! The "walking up" resonated so deeply with me! Thank you!
Sorry to say that. He said wake up not walking up😊
heya! amazing video. i wonder if it's possible though to edit the little popup at 24:00 which mis-labels the three process suggested by Wilber as being three exercises for growing up, as each one relates to only one of the three waking/cleaning/growing ups. if that makes sense
TLDR: Integrating shadow elements and discovering pure witnessing awareness are essential practices for personal development and spiritual awakening.
1. 00:00 🧠 Integral practice involves waking up, growing up, and cleaning up by addressing unconscious material and childhood experiences.
1.1 The speaker discusses the importance of practice in navigating cultural transitions and the challenges posed by technological advancements and climate change.
1.2 Practice waking up, growing up, and cleaning up are important for integral practice, with cleaning up involving addressing unconscious and repressed material.
1.3 Freud, Jung, and Alfred discovered that people can push aspects of their own awareness out of consciousness, making them unconscious.
1.4 People often develop shadow material from childhood experiences, and one common defense mechanism is to deny and disown certain traits, projecting them onto others instead.
2. 04:36 🌱 Acknowledge and address our own shadow elements to improve interpersonal relationships and mental health.
2.1 People often react impulsively when feeling pressured to complete a task, leading to outbursts of anger or misinterpretation of others' intentions.
2.2 Facing and acknowledging our own shadow elements is a difficult but necessary practice in order to address interpersonal problems and symptoms of depression.
3. 06:50 🌱 Integrate qualities from others, confront internal aggression, and reverse the steps that created the monster in your dreams to achieve personal growth and healthier relationships.
3.1 Identify and integrate the qualities in others that strongly affect you, whether positive or negative, in order to clean up and reintegrate your own shadow elements.
3.2 Reverse the steps that created the monster in your dreams by making it a second person sitting in front of you and identifying with it.
3.3 The speaker discusses the presence of internal aggression and anger and its impact on one's feelings.
3.4 Confronting and reowning projected qualities can lead to personal growth and healthier relationships.
4. 11:35 🌱 Recognizing stages of growing up and waking up leads to important human discovery, with practices for cleaning up and achieving unity experiences, involving recognizing that defining qualities are not your true self.
4.1 Baldwin and James discovered stages of growing up and waking up, leading to important periods in human discovery about aspects of themselves, with practices for cleaning up and achieving unity experiences.
4.2 Discovering your true self involves recognizing that the qualities and attributes that define you are not your true self.
5. 14:15 🧘 Meditation helps to disidentify with subjective thoughts and objects, leading to a realization of the true self as the witness of all experiences.
5.1 The seer, the witness, is a vast emptiness, not the objects we identify with, and is not who we really are.
5.2 Meditation helps to disidentify with subjective thoughts and objects, leading to a realization of the true self as the witness of all experiences.
6. 17:08 🌟 Pure awareness leads to enlightenment and radical freedom, while children develop perspective-taking abilities as they grow older.
6.1 Pure awareness is the freedom from identification with objects, leading to enlightenment and the discovery of radical freedom.
6.2 A child's perception of color is based on their own perspective and not on the actual color of the object.
6.3 Children develop the ability to understand and take on the perspective of others as they grow older, transitioning from egocentric to group-oriented thinking.
7. 20:35 🧠 Your true self is a pure witness that doesn't change, include waking up and growing up experiences, practice empathy and perspective-taking to grow up.
7.1 The speaker discusses the different nature stages of growing up and how each stage adds a new perspective, with empirical evidence going up to around seventh person perspective.
7.2 Your true self is a pure witness that doesn't change, and it's important to include both waking up and growing up experiences, as the relative self goes through stages and learns to take the perspectives of others.
7.3 Put yourself in the role of the other person, imagine their perspective, and practice a three to one process to exercise the brain and grow up.
8. 24:14 🌱 Teaching integral approaches in schooling can help humanity reach a tipping point where more people will be at second-tier stages and continue their education beyond high school or college.
8.1 Teaching integral approaches in schooling can help humanity reach a tipping point where more people will be at second-tier stages and continue their education beyond high school or college.
8.2 Teaching people today is a disaster and impacts every major world problem, enter the future thinkers giveaway to win a community membership and cognitive upgrade.
What a nice speech. Can you please speech for the people are in love with the wrong person? I want to safe myself but I am so weak because I think I’m so lost with the wrong person💔
if you guys are the ones that lead to ken ending up on the big podcasts in the alt thought scene. if so i'll buy you all the beers
and MATY H - I will buy you all the beers you want.....
@@sallystubbs7084 beer dulls thought
Speaking of bosses, giving one's real opinion to the boss, giving one' s truth, often
gets one fired. Bit of a quandary for spiritual types who hate to lie.
So get fired and do something else?
or gets you jailed/killed in many countries.
@@sleepyredmoo What a dumb thing to say.
@@based9930 I'm sorry you feel that way.
reminds me of Gestalt Therapy, FP
What about forgiving? Would that also work in regards of the shadow elements?
wow. this is good stuff. wish more people knew about this kind of thing
Which of his books best describe what he talks about here?
I would have liked to see more questions by these young people. Did they understand everything? Do they have any questions from Ken about anything he said here?
Hey, Alan Kuntz, how ya been friend?
I like how the interviewers took turns nodding :)
I appreciate Ken Wilber opening his talk with cleaning up. Without some intense and humble cleaning up any growing up and waking up we are likely to experience is more likely to cause harm to our self and others than good.
How will you “Whites” began to “clean up” your White Supremacist Racist behaviors in all your thoughts speech and actions? That’s the “self” all people Who classify Themselves as “White” have to be confronted with being guilty of an the process of neutralizing must began.
Yes, the shadow has been around since the profit souls (without it they would have no purpose) and the Vedic traditions etc, but thousands of years later the shadow's story has infiltrated collective consciousness to such a degree that it is tricky for us to see the light in the jungle of thorns. Luckily we do have access to great speakers (as in this video) and unlimited knowledge. Of course knowledge on it's own is insufficient - we need a practice of being the light of pure awareness to untangle ourselves from the illusion of what we are not (what we can see).
Waking up @ 12.57 - 18.46
I took a dump at 12.57 and wiped at 18.46 , pure bliss.
Building freedom within is worth it as something builds that can not be taken away. I mean why wait until old age to die, get it over and done with when one is young. I am aware of many shite spiritual teachers so find the best guys.
Dr. Stephen Marmer : MATURITY It takes 50 years to overcome the first 20 !!! 'It's Time to Grow Up'.
NEVER have i heard the challenges and requirements of GROWING UP explained so succinctly and earnestly in just 5 MINUTES without the INTEGRAL REFRAIN of (moving to) levels, levels, levels (though i use them too !)
5 Characteristics of MATURITY:
1. Taking control (of your own course)
2. Taking responsibility (obligations and fulfilling them)
3. Containing your emotion (don't lash out)
4. Having perspective (handle disappointments)
5. Achieving deep understanding (of other's perspectives)
Reminds me of Robert Kegan's 'In Over Our Heads', 1994. The mental demands of modern life; the hidden curriculum.
Love Ken Wilber, but psychiatrist Dr. Stephen Marmer is way better at explaining in an earnest and common sense way the demands of MATURITY.
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. The more I have to explain to you proves the less Wisdom I can convey ! .If I can't convey wisdom In a sentence .. I'm left with a paragraph if I can't do that Im left with an essay if not with that I'm left with a lecture by then you have left the path of wisdom by 3 stages ! .
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:23 🤔 En las transiciones culturales, como la actual, se necesitan prácticas útiles para ayudar a las personas a avanzar.
01:17 🌑 La "limpieza" se refiere a la integración de elementos ocultos o reprimidos en la psicología, como el material de la sombra.
03:05 🌪️ La proyección de rasgos de la sombra en otras personas es común y puede causar problemas interpersonales.
08:06 🪑 Reintegrar la sombra implica interactuar con los elementos proyectados, como tener un "monstruo" en una silla vacía.
12:13 🧘♂️ La práctica de "despertar" implica darse cuenta de la identidad más allá de las etiquetas y objetos perceptibles.
16:55 🤯 La "radical libertad" se encuentra en la conciencia pura y no identificarse con objetos o pensamientos.
20:45 🧠 Crecer implica tomar perspectivas de otros, avanzando desde el egocentrismo hacia el entendimiento de múltiples perspectivas.
25:11 📚 La educación integral en las escuelas puede ayudar a la sociedad a alcanzar estados de segundo nivel de conciencia, superando el etnocentrismo.
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Guys, just discovered you while searching for Nora Bateson videos, would love a discussion on korzybski's general semantics, John Grinder/R Bandlers Structure of Magic, and just in general the limits of language!
I’d like to see a video on the concept of ‘poo butt’. Butt poo or radical pooping
I'm sorry. I forgot the question.
Alllllltamente consciente
So what happens when kind of examples do we have of the very immature becoming enlightened? It does happen? Does this create monsters?
Ohhh yes ~ we are mirrors to each other } it's all done through reflections... I can relate so deeply with all this " having been birthed by an angry doctor, as this person was not my mom's dr., he had to perform a cesarean cut = the knife got into baby's back = I was afraid of all external manifestations all my life UNTIL i relived this ordeal a bit at a time over and over again } BUT initiations are POSSIBLE !!!
Yahhhhh...so much brainfood, I am stuffed! But I am not, that's just the outside 'I'. Eye love it.
I want to recommend Lock Kellys work for anyone looking for a non-dual teacher, he has free content on youtube with guides which help you discover your true nature and he is all around good caring teacher
When Ken had muscles he looked like a healthy immortal. Crazy how things change.
yes ... its gravity here very hard on physical suit ! Everyone ages....
Every one gets sick.... Every one dies
eventually .
@@hara3435 did he get sick?
@@antidoteify he has a rare auto immune disease he contracted in lake Tahoe in 1985
woooosh. Lot's to think about there.
There is no shadow.
A GOOD TEACHER
But WAY before Sigmund spiritual traditions had purification that dealt with "shadow material "
I am not this. I am not that and yet none of it is separate from Me. I am both no thing and everything.
It would be like the ocean saying, I am not the waves and yet it is.
Wow. Ken Wilbur has REALLY aged.
Is he sick? I know he's 71 years old. But old vids of him where he was in good physical condition vs now is very stark.
How long does this take? I’m tiring.
Give up
Fav quote: What we are looking for is what is looking ~ St Francis
I'm aware of what is in front of me. What must my position be for even space and silence to be in front? Yes, I am aware of space and silence.
How am I aware of something that doesn't exist? Yes, they don't exist. No, they are not object. Yes, I am aware of no-thing that doesn't exist.
If I am this object body appearing side this space, then how is space not behind me & unseen? Hmm, yes space is seen.
My favorite quote; He who smelt it, dealt it. I could dissect this brilliance in a thorough epilogue of a thesis, but I shan't. Unless you want me to. ...
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@@Feed9Will you are sleeping, not woke.
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Confront my own monsters makes me very scared
Lol that's why they are your monsters and not mine. My understanding is you have to sit your monsters on a chair in front of you, perhaps with a therapist present and engage the monster until you you can integrate the monster into yourself then your scare or fright is gone. Yes please correct me if I've got any part of this wrong. Wishing you the best life has to offer.
Maybe it helps to know that all your "monsters" are good intentioned! All of them!
Stay away from mine then
I'm interested in shadow work and it takes grit and acceptance to stick with it. I think it becomes a path of integration and curiosity as to what and why we repressed parts of our selves. I have been listening to Teal Swan and Richard Grannon 👍👍
To say the cleaning up your emotional trauma is a recent understanding is really baffling from a person like this. This is what spiritual awakening was based on for thousands of years
Not really. The fight/flight mechanisms, basic emotions, trauma responses like disassociation, attachment theory - just to name a few - are modern and distinct from eastern practices.
@@holisticselfinquiry2736 not at all, it's just western names..you cannot reach those levels of consciousness and develop these disciplines without understanding those mechanisms.ways of healing emotional pain and trauma was taught thousands of years ago
Do you think that when Mary said that she didn't like Bobby being in love with me.. do you remember what she said?
Thank God, I am not fat.
I am Awake. Been since 1983. Just when I bought his book, 'No Boundary'.
I am new to Me. Wilbur. But very exciting.
You sound asleep doe.
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@@mobleyMobley You can't spell. But thanks for the thumbs up. lol. Get Grammarly.
@@theempyrean1227 still sleeping doe.
I dont get it 😓
the shadow knows.
If any monster showed up in my seat next to me I'd say I was going nuts or smoking too much wacky tobaccy
Well they just fit you know the shadow knows you're just so wonderful
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Ken needs to debate jordan peterson sam harris. Anyone reading this im sure you can think of your own examples. Who else?
Debate my balls..
Donald Trump. Wouldn't that be hilarious? Trump would last 2 minutes before he got up in a huff and stomped away.
I just saved a video for later view where he does talk about those two. From the channel rebel wisdom
This admiration Wilbur has for the Psychiatric/Pharmaceutical complex is boring.
That’s called co dependent
What?
Imagine a technology ,which can read mind , behaviour thought pattern ...now it reflects back the whole thought process on to yourself then ?
Sounds impossible ?
That's technology nothing else .
But why this is forced?
As a human we are 90-95% negetive ,so that is the reason it would be applied phase by phase ...in the name of human development ?
But there are some huge gaps, fundamental issue with the whole system.
Welcome to world of AI and spirituality ...lot of things are forced and not real
I would not get into technology,I can speak about it and I strongly believe we can create this AI,Matrix , Simulation world.
My problem is with the rules and the philosophy,as in law of Nature,law of karma, reincarnation and karma ,real conciousness vs thought generated by Computer ,will human loose their real thought process and emotion ..it will be all done and controlled by artificial Mind ?
It's no way conciousness but this technology tries to mimic conciousness,but it's a simple algorithm..
Ho'oponopono, I take 100% responsibility for my surroundings. I love you, I'm sorry, please forgive me, thank you
Self contraction is at the root of all narcissistic patterns and tendencies. Stop doing ego! Ego is an activity. No need to work on illusions! Just don’t DO the self contraction and be utter Bliss. LOL see Adi Da, dreaded gomboo.