Home made drum sander
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- Опубліковано 2 лют 2009
- This is a test run of a home made drum sander that I made. I need to add some more pieces like a dust guard .I made it because I'm trying to build a guitar and I want to use it for the fretboard. update: lost in a flood
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this looks cool. I like how simple your bed is. Old table saws used to control blade exposure height by the incline method.. I had a 24" woodmaster when I had a bigger shop. The sandpaper held on with the hook and loop system. I still taped both sides anyway. There is a sander on fine woodworking magazine. shop built, and looks okay. It takes time to put something like that together. I like it. Thanks!
Awesome I'm getting ready to go to NC my daughter has a house there that got damaged in the storms 6 months ago the contractor left a bunch of small stuff she's putting it. On the market it was being rented her husband got out of the marines after 10 years and they moved back to Wa.
Storm damage really sucks,,especially when you're near the coast and get flooding. I guess the contractor was doing so well he lost track of his tools and didn't care. I hope it's good stuff!!
@nickpeeeeeee it is made of 3" discs of 3/4" mdf with a 5/8" diameter center hole. I cut them close to size then made them round with a jig on a router table. I also found a printer company selling a bunch of rollers - they might work out fine too. If you know someone with a lathe or machine shop they can true it up. You can also raise the table with sandpaper on it until it smooths the drum itself.
That's a great build I think if you jointed one face it would be perfect I like the pillow block bearings and it's open though dangerous bit what isn't lol you can watch the material great job keep them coming
Thanks. One side was always jointed or planed flat. I eventually made a plexiglas cover with dust collection. I rushed this project. It is also long gone,,,destroyed in a flood, but I am getting ready to build another one.
I think I'd still stand to the side of the work piece, just like I do with a table saw. They rarely kick back either, but when they do, lookout! Fingers can't get pulled under when feeding the stock, but you get them pretty close when you reach over to grab it as it comes out. Don't get me wrong, I think the idea is pretty good, but it could use a little more anti-hazard engineering.
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that was even a problem on the woodmaster machine. always used an old belt to get it close. It seems like it would be a bear to get that adhesive velcro on just right...
That looks like oak wood. Nice homemade sander seems to work ok
Thanks
@jws54 I bought more than I needed with the velcro. When I realized I couldnt get it on the way a website showed me, I just overlapped each end until the seams in the center closed. Then I trimmed the end flush with the edge and it worked fine. Then I had to do it with the sandpaper, ugh! I planned on making a little gauge of the angle but I forgot. I'll do it when I replace it.
No skin grafts needed, I added a plexi dust hood and I use a push stick..so far I'm extremely happy with the way it turned out.
As it is in the video,,it isnt safe at all mainly because of the pulleys being open. I made a shroud for that and the dust hood works well. Strangely, it never shoots the wood out. probably because I set it with such light pressure. Also, fingers cant get pulled under, the drum is spinning towards you, it is hard to tell in the video. A pushstick sends the wood under the roller very nicely.
@b4mrducks you can google "printing press rollers" and hopefully find a place that has used ones they might sell to you. I cant imagine how expensive they are. How about "drum sander parts" for repairing the machines? This is why most people make their own drums, ie: " aluminum tubes ,pvc pipe, mdf..etc.
@jws54 Hi glad you like it! The hardest part on the whole thing was figuring out how to trim the ends of the h&l sandpaper so it would spiral onto the drum. I used a method of measuring with a string but it didnt work. I finally got it by eye.
Just being a little facetious. I do wonder though how safe that is with no guard and no feed rollers to control the feed. Has it ever caught hold of an uneven piece of stock and fired it out at speed? I'd be a bit concerned about getting a finger too close and having it pulled under the drum.
yes standing at the side is much better. I may shorten the legs to make it lower, I think it would make it easier to see the wood coming out ..thanks for looking
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yes its great for thickness sanding instrument parts (thats what I made it for), but I'd like to know what Stradivari used. Did he just keep planing them down to final thickness? We make it too easy. :)
@trex117427 Very slick idea. I'm just getting into building guitars myself, still don't have the shop built, but when I do, this will be on my list of things to build. Sure would be nice to sand pieces in preparation for like a maple cap on chambered guitar bodies and like most of us who likes sanding finished tops? Would be kinda nice to make a automated drum feed on both sides to feed the work through the machine, but I suppose thats getting a bit fancy. Thanks for a great idea!
@steveho79 I made a guard/dust collector, I'll have to take a picture of it and put it on the website. It is made of clear plexiglass. I need to buy a fitting and attach it to the plexi so I can connect my shop vac to it. The dust hood came out better than I thought it would.
@nickpeeeeeee let us know how it came out. the axle has to be centered perfectly otherwise it may have to be made true on a lathe.
hi, where did you find such an ideal drum for the project ?.. i'm inspired to make my own but having trouble finding a drum. it seems photocopiers havs an alluminium drum that might be usable..
@orlandofriend thanks,,I'll have to check it out. I havent run it for a while and was thinking of rebuilding the whole thing to make it look nicer. Maybe a shorter belt will work better.
how thick shaft
I'm thinking of turning it around, setting up a targe and seeing if I can launch some wood! I'm going for distance.
yes,,I had already made one but never took pics of it. It was made of plexiglass and covered the drum almost flush to the bottom. I was adding a vacuum port to the top of it for dust control. Then hurrican sandy came and wrecked it,,under water for 3-4 days ,,,so it is now gone.
@fluterampal I dont think that is the way to go. Not sure, theres a big chance the lid and more are veneered. You may sand through it. If it is solid wood, hand sanding should be fine, working to higher grits. A hand plane will leave the smoothest finish and get rid of glue seams from the lid panels. The glass like finish depends on the result of the wood but the finish is a technique all in itself. Wet sand from 400 up to micro glazes. i'd ask a piano restoration place first.
@nickpeeeeeee it is 3/4 HP ,,it doesnt bog down at all,,more than enough power
my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
Yep, it's a little dangerous. Need a cover for the belt and pulleys, as well as a cover for the drum. The back side of the drum wants to pull everything into and underneath it. Not good when it grabs your finger/fingers/hand/wrist/arm and then grinds on them.
Nice machine though. I'm planning on making one like it for thickness sanding musical instrument tops and backs.
Where can i buy a drum like that 6 feet wide? Im doing a lid of a piano that must be glass like in flatness when polished. Thanks in advance
yup,,probably scrapers or large sweep carving gouges at first. they werent totally flat, they were arched so a plane wouldnt work. time to look up violin making..
Great idea, but man it really needs a guard !!! If that drum grabs your fingers it won't stop grinding fingers til you can shut it off. I would not put another piece through it till it has a guard.
I hope you have some kind of drum safety cover in the works?
@brandiclay where can i buy a drum 6 feet wide?
@DynaflowDonnie I've seen some auto feed home built jobs,,pretty good,, but it was just way more work than I wanted to put into it. I would rig it up with the same motor, different pulley size and one feed roller and a dummy roller and a large rubber mat. good luck with your guitars,,keep me posted, I'd like to see them.
I hear ya. I think the push stick was good, my fingers never got close. but i dont have to worry anymore,,the whole thing got wrecked in a flood...its gone. i'll put one on the next one if i ever do it again. thanks
@orlandofriend I'm thinking of tearing it all down and making it look nice. mines a very slow work in progress
I have looked all over the internet for a drum and can not find what I am looking for, can someone stir me in the right direction. Looking for 25" or longer drum.... Maybe a website might be helpful...
Hello, thanks for making the video on your drum sander. I am new to wood working and about to built my own drum sander. I have two questions 1. What size of the motor do I need and how fast does it need to be? 2. What are the danger with the drum sander, I mean will it take board from my hand and shoot out the other end? The reason I ask is because I almost cut my finger off with table saw and I am little bit scare. The only teachers I have is the kindness people on UA-cam who is taking their time explain and showing how to do it right way. Thanks and have a wonderful day.
+maikay1403 it wont shoot the wood out, you will be pushing the wood through against the rotation (so it seems like it should fire back at you),,but I believe because the table is not moving, the wood has enough pressure to stay under the drum,, more or less. If the table was a spinning drum also,(one on top and one on the bottom),then it would fire the wood across the room.. understand? As far as the motor,,,a standard one should be good enough, maybe 1/2 hp and 1800 rpm. you can also play with pulley sizes if you wanted different speeds. I found mine had enough speed,,,it was a heavy duty air conditioning motor. hope this helps
trex117427 Thank you very much for your help, very much appreciated. Your video you are making DIY very helpful. Have a GREAT day.
+maikay1403 Thank You!! :)
very good
thanks!!!
It think it was oak that I used. So far I used the DS to make a guitar fretboard. It worked perfectly. I'm happy with it. I still need to make the dust collector.
thanks. I didnt use those plans. I saw a similar sander on a site somewheremmI just made mine more simple.
I used 5/8" thick rod
@MEBLEMARSTOL thanks!!
aha ok thanks and do you know how I do I convert to centimeters how much it would mean in centimeters
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@DynaflowDonnie hmmm, I can build a wooden chute like a ski ramp and send pieces down for launching. Too bad my saw is too heavy to turn for aiming.
@zacker001 most of it is from something I saw on the web, just changed it up a little because my woodworking skills suck. I tried to upload more videos but all of a sudden my pc doesnt recognize my camera...ugh! I'll try to put up regular pics on the website of the bottom,,I just use a threaded rod to raise the table. very simple.
supposed you got two sides uneven, how do yo get both sides equal in thickness?
That's why you use a drum sander, to get the piece the same thickness with a decent finish. If the piece was way off,,one side much thicker than the other, then i would use other tools to get it close. You wouldnt want to sand a 1/4 inch difference. I would either hand plane the piece to the dimension or run it on edge against the fence of a table saw. I used the d.s. to creep up on thin boards (guitar finger boards). Thick boards i would use hand planes or thickness planer. Did i understand or answer your question?
i just thought that the one of the two sides either the drum itself or the board is spring loaded with stopper with the maximum setting of your desired thickness, just my thought though, thanks for the reply
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what power is your motor ?
Stradivari? I think he used apprentices, LOL!
Before that, probably scrapers, planes, and lots and lots of practice (and wood.)
Yep, we've got it easy, that's why so many people can do it now!
@lexartesan1 Gracias. dispensa mi respuesta mala. El video fue hecho rápido. No está como parece.
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That is too cool brother! You should check out the Matthiaswandel channel here on youtube and see if he couldn't help you out with setting up some wooden gears that would give you a set increment of ascent and descent of the table so that you can sand dimensional wood...
how to measure and adjust to get the accurate target thickness?
I could have measured one turn of height knob and created a reference mark. (Example: 5 turns = 1/4 inch?) I only needed 1/4 inch, so I used scrap piece as a gauge and took many measurements. It is easy to add a piece to the moving table and a pointer to the frame showing distance.
@@MarcsRandomVids wow, thank you very much, this method really work, it will save a lot money to build this instead of buying machine
@@MarcsRandomVids i am looking for this to sand guitar top accurately, it really works, thank.you
It works and it is fun to build. Good luck!!
I've got one in the works myself.
@THSurvivalGear Thanks! I will check his channel. There is another guy I ordered gear making plans from - Stevengarrison (dot) com ,,a genius. I use a large threaded rod to raise and lower the table but it is a lot of turning if the thickness of wood is thick and I was set at thin (or vice versa).
Let me know how the skin grafts work out.
That would be .625 decimal or (15.8750 mm )
@bloodynuts2 but the home made drum sander from Japan can take your picture too!! LOL
@trex117427 Haha, great idea, I know it'll work fine, some kids I used to work with were actually dropping scraps onto a table saw blade. let me tell you it came off there with good distance and velocity.. XD
Need a feeder
Yeah,,I can imagine!! HA!
I will add a list of parts to woodworkerspost com
I actually need a drum sander,,,this one is gone.
good job, but i think it's a bit to high
+iLoveGuitar thanks. I could have made it a little lower,,,but then with the table in a lower position, for thicker wood,, it would be too low. It acutally wasnt bad. But its long gone now.
He probably used a flat scraper
I think I'm still having trouble replying to the comment section...
@zacker001 i'm having trouble replying
whats a pucker switch? a killswitch for when myu hand gets sucked under and my face is puckering ,,,ha :)
Well done. Is this build using the plans from Woodgears[dot]ca? I just downloaded those and plan to make one of my own.
..excuse me if I express my opinion.. but working with an electric tool like this, and pushing the wood pieces by hands, without any help (example using a wooden or plastic extension..) IT'S VERY VERY DANGEROUS ! ! ! ! !
Yes, i understand. The drum does spin against you so it would only push your hand up and over. Still,,,,i used a push block when i used it, just in case. Thanks
many thanks to you for the answer, nobody wants to do a teacher ;) it was just for your safety! :-)) bye by Rimini (Italy)
Yes,,,i thank you for being concerned and for letting others know. Good job.
Muy peligroso. Al recoger la pieza del lado que sale...
En realidad no. Puse mi mano debajo del rodillo y el rodillo no agarro mi mano. Con un protector se soluciona el riesgo. Gracias por preocuparte.
Esta máquina es muy práctica. Agiliza el trabajo.
Y fácil de hacer
Helper? Never! ,,,,Cover for top? already made
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my sander project is well under way but the small motor i have [ spec unknown ] is far too weak,.. i can hold the pulley wheel still with one hand so not nearly strong enough for the project. does anyone know the ideal horse power / kw and RPM for a drum sander ????
what power is your motor ?