Thank you for watching! Hard to believe we already have info for changes hitting the 11.0.5 PTR.. but man are they good! Awesome to see Blizzard reacting to Dark Ranger feedback. Should it have launched this way? yes. But these are all great changes and I can't wait to try it out and see how it feels on the PTR. Links to the articles are found below, as well as the build strings: Link to wowhead article: www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-0-5-datamined-class-changes-346471 ST DR Build: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYstNwAmgZjtAzCAAAAAAYGzMzMMzMMzMDzMzYMziZ8AAAAAAAAwMMmxMzMzMTmxYYmhxwMLzgN M+ DR Build: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYstNwAmgZjtAzCAAAAAAYmZmxMmhZMzMzMzMDzMWYMAAAAAAAwMMmxMzMzMTmxYYmhxwMLzgN 🏹 11.0 TWW MM Hunter Guide: ua-cam.com/video/x85mWNOmiBw/v-deo.html 🐾 Newest Pet Tame Video: ua-cam.com/video/-XUBJJW6pe0/v-deo.html 🏹 11.0 Pre-patch MM Hunter guide: ua-cam.com/video/Htj0frh01qc/v-deo.html What do you guys think of these changes? Obviously, it's all on paper but it looks like a ton of fun! Giving us an option when it comes to playstyle will be fun for both raid and M+ and having Dark Ranger reworked makes it much more fluid, something that is a must for a MM Hunter.
Hey there, Lee! Thank you so much for checking out my content and for the kind words. I really, really appreciate it. I just love playing my MM hunter. I've been maining the spec exclusively since Cata/MoP and play it when it's good.. bad and everything in between. My goal is to share my experiences in hope that others can enjoy it too. I play a ton of other games, but most of my viewers are here for my MM hunter content. I've been pushing myself to make better content, content that you all want to see. I'm excited for the future of MM hunter and I cannot wait to see what raid and M+ have in-store for us. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask. I do my best to respond to every comment here on youtube and in my discord. But my channel has been growing rapidly recently... so I'm behind XD Nothing like getting paid at work to respond to UA-cam comments. - Tyler
This is really what we were hoping for with the reveal of Dark Ranger.. it just took a little longer to get it there. Which is fine if it's done right. DR was really half baked currently with a lot of glaring issues. All these changes smooth it out and give us options and fun ones at that. I'm looking forward to the season starting and what 11.0.5 brings! Thank you for watching!
That's awesome! I'm really enjoying it so far. We are focus starved somewhat, but I can't wait to get into raid next week and M+ the week after that. It's going to be great! I love that we'll actually have some options between the 2 hero talents.
I should probably stop staying up so late.. but this expac has been great so far and I can't wait to see more players enjoying my favorite spec in the game.
I can't wait for my raid lead to start putting me in the windfury group lol :) Thank you for watching as always and we'll have to do some dungeons soon my friend!
This is great, i was waiting for this. I just hope they also update the visuals. I play dark ranger and the biggest changes i have visually are 2 green trinkets doing some void stuff. I really want my disengage to trigger a scream like in the BOA expansion cinematic from sylvanas.
Yeah!! I wish it would have launched this way, but these are great changes and I appreciate Blizzard being quick to act. This is going to be a ton of fun to playtest over on the PTR. And the fact that we have the opportunity to run with Wailing Arrow in M+ is a great addition as well. Thank you for watching my video!
11.0.5 is looking pretty good. The changes to Dark Ranger are great, but so is the QoL changes in the trees and the changes to Steady Shot and Steady Focus!
hey bro, loving ur videos, they have been really helpful for me as a fairly new retail player, keep up the great work! also wanted to ask would u upgrade the stonevault crit vers weap to rank 8?
Hey there!! Welcome to the retail version of the game! If there's anything I can do to help you out, let me know! Yeah I would pump that weapon up! The higher ilvl on the weapon plus the good crit amount on it makes it a great pick. I personally didn't get it to drop out of heroics, but I did the same thing with the crossbow I did get to drop.
Great video man definitely excited about the rework and the possibility of playing Dark Ranger now. In the talent tree I would pick improved death blow increasing the chances for black arrows from aimed shot and rapid fire it will even give us a little two target cleave. Also will every time we get death blow give us black arrow regardless of the targets health since it says that it will replace kill shot
That's absolutely right! So we now have an 80/20 zone again, and we'll get that Deathblow key word on a ton of abilities. This'll have to be tuned for PvP but it's going to be so much fun to playtest and this is what I wanted Dark Ranger to be when it was unveiled.
this is another amazing video and thank you so much for posting this. i guess they saw the last message i sent to you about getting wailing arrow in an AOE build lol. just wondering, have you ever tried making a cleave build? like doing the single target build but putting a point in volley? for fights that aren't fully aoe but every so often mobs come out, ie: first boss in palace?
Oh yeah, absolutely. You can make cleave builds for ST with adds type fights. I'll work on getting a build for each boss fight in raid next week and I'll be live on Tuesday streaming my guild's raid.
this will be nice in pvp i like the changes on steady shot as well the one cast for the haste buff is great i still dont think multi shot should be a talent though should be just standard
I agree with all that you said. The Steady Shot and Steady Focus changes ARE HUGE! And something I've been championing for quite some time. I'd love to see multi-shot to at least give you trick shots, if they are going to make us spend a point on it. They shouldn't be two points, just like beast cleave shouldn't be 2 points in BM.
I had a lot of similar thoughts. MM kind of slaps in AoE without those three extra points put into the middle of three for the extra AoE perks, so it genuinely might be better to grab the Windrunner/Wailing Arrow talents for a bit of single target love. Bosses in M+ still need to die, too, and those perks in the middle very well could just be overkill. Feels nice to have options.
It sounds like with Withering Fire it will automatically cast Black arrow for you? Or is this the standard verbage for just granting you an "instant cast proc"? If it was automatic that would be the greatest QOL
Hey there my friend! So it will automatically cast Black Arrow for you, which is huge. It's exactly what I was asking for in the Beta, finding a way to get that ability off the GCD and having it automatically send will be huge. That automatically fixed the log jam during TS that having deathblow procs caused. That coupled with a nice amount of haste and focus regen through Steady Shot is HUGE!! Thank you for watching!
@@MrEggplant HUGE! I chose to play MM again this xpac hoping for some juicy changes and boy did I make the right choice. Dark Ranger thematically is insanely cool, especially with Withering Fire. Thanks for your content!
I know... I know.. But at least they listened and we'll get to play it soonTM. These are fantastic changes and the changes to steady shot and steady focus are HUGE wins as well.
i hope so, Sentinel is boring for me (maybe if i would have Night elf hunter it could go together if you know what i mean ) but Dark Ranger as MM is my wet dream
I totally agree with you on the Dark Ranger changes... it's going to be beautiful. This was what I wanted DR to launch as. But I'll take it in 11.0.5. It'll give players options, which is always important. That coupled with the Slyvannas mog that's coming... I'm excited to see more MM out there! BM should benefit as well. Sentinel is frustrating because your own group mates can't see the circle of Lunar Storm that you drop and has a large percentage of your damage invested in said little circle. Thank you for watching!
Going dark ranger it seems really silly to not spec hard into the left side of the tree for the deathblow talents and wailing arrow with the whole Shadow damage theme and damage scaling
It's just going to depend on what the damage profiles will look like. Missing out on all that Explosive Shot damage from Salvo would be pretty big. But again, that's just a sample build like we currently use in dungeons at the beginning of season 1. Things change and I can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm just happy that they gave us the option to pick both Salvo AND wailing arrow in our builds.
We're very mobile until we're not. Because everything we have is castable/usable while moving, except for one, which is Aimed Shot. It's our big damage dealer and it has a 2 second cast. It casts faster during Trueshot, which is where you want to spam it, but you'll learn very quickly when you can and cannot stop to get an Aimed Shot off. Aimed Shot really drives our damage and gives us precise shot procs and also helps us whittled the CD down on Trueshot.
I know that it should have released this way, but I really appreciate seeing these changes so early, instead of waiting for 11.2 type thing. If we have to wait a little longer to get something really good.. I'm all for that and it's shaping up to be pretty great :)
That would be a cool addition.. like with single minded fury for our warrior friends. I think that would be a great change and would allow more use of agility swords other than just for Outlaw. I'll leave that as feedback next time I'm play testing my hunter. Just because I main MM doesn't mean I don't want my Year of the Spear brothers to not have options too. Thank you for watching my friend!
I mean, that's true. But I'm glad we're seeing this so early in the xpac, instead of in 11.2 type thing. Better a small delay than it dropped in the middle or the end. Not making excuses for them though, as the MM hunter community gave them TONS of feedback throughout the Alpha and Beta.
@MegaFckup this comes out with 11.0.5, my guess is that will be in Oct or November. Might line up with the 20th anniversary of wow festivities. But there's no date currently.
Welcome to the Hunting Party :) I've really been enjoying PvP on mine so far. I haven't played too much, but usually top damage and Killing Blows in random bgs. Jus finished my honor set of gear today.
I've been asking for years and years for them to implement more of the old survival playstyle in with MM. I got my wish. Blizzard looks like they're listening more to feedback, so hopefully our Year of the Spear brothers and sisters will get more love too :)
Maybe it won't be two months to get 11.0.5, sometimes they push those partial patches out faster. As long as it gets tested and implemented correctly, I think it'll be worth the wait.
"Overwatch All Sentinel debuffs implode when a target affected by more than 3 stacks of your Sentinel falls below 20% health. This effect can only occur once every 15 sec per target." Its huge aoe nerf? Does it currently only work once?
Yeah from my understanding, that's it's internal CD currently in game. It just didn't state that on the tool tip. I could be wrong, and I'll double check that once it all hits the PTR and I have time to check it out.
Oh yeah, the multi-shot ability isn't anything special in ST or PvP, but it's just a talent you get and you don't have to pick it over something else. Shadow Surge is a big boost and I can't wait to play test this in the PTR.
I mean, I want them now too, but they do need to be tuned. If they don't get tuned properly... that's when you get nerfed into the ground and then no one plays it :/ Our patience will be rewarded.. hopefully!
Thank you for watching! Hard to believe we already have info for changes hitting the 11.0.5 PTR.. but man are they good! Awesome to see Blizzard reacting to Dark Ranger feedback. Should it have launched this way? yes. But these are all great changes and I can't wait to try it out and see how it feels on the PTR. Links to the articles are found below, as well as the build strings:
Link to wowhead article: www.wowhead.com/news/patch-11-0-5-datamined-class-changes-346471
ST DR Build: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYstNwAmgZjtAzCAAAAAAYGzMzMMzMMzMDzMzYMziZ8AAAAAAAAwMMmxMzMzMTmxYYmhxwMLzgN
M+ DR Build: C4PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYstNwAmgZjtAzCAAAAAAYmZmxMmhZMzMzMzMDzMWYMAAAAAAAwMMmxMzMzMTmxYYmhxwMLzgN
🏹 11.0 TWW MM Hunter Guide: ua-cam.com/video/x85mWNOmiBw/v-deo.html
🐾 Newest Pet Tame Video: ua-cam.com/video/-XUBJJW6pe0/v-deo.html
🏹 11.0 Pre-patch MM Hunter guide: ua-cam.com/video/Htj0frh01qc/v-deo.html
What do you guys think of these changes? Obviously, it's all on paper but it looks like a ton of fun! Giving us an option when it comes to playstyle will be fun for both raid and M+ and having Dark Ranger reworked makes it much more fluid, something that is a must for a MM Hunter.
I just discovered this channel I love this guy, his passion for his spec radiates. I'm happy to find Marksman has such a good content creator
Hey there, Lee! Thank you so much for checking out my content and for the kind words. I really, really appreciate it. I just love playing my MM hunter. I've been maining the spec exclusively since Cata/MoP and play it when it's good.. bad and everything in between. My goal is to share my experiences in hope that others can enjoy it too. I play a ton of other games, but most of my viewers are here for my MM hunter content. I've been pushing myself to make better content, content that you all want to see. I'm excited for the future of MM hunter and I cannot wait to see what raid and M+ have in-store for us. If you ever need anything, don't hesitate to ask. I do my best to respond to every comment here on youtube and in my discord. But my channel has been growing rapidly recently... so I'm behind XD Nothing like getting paid at work to respond to UA-cam comments. - Tyler
this made me have a complete turn around on DR, sounds now just like how i like to play MM
This is really what we were hoping for with the reveal of Dark Ranger.. it just took a little longer to get it there. Which is fine if it's done right. DR was really half baked currently with a lot of glaring issues. All these changes smooth it out and give us options and fun ones at that. I'm looking forward to the season starting and what 11.0.5 brings! Thank you for watching!
Already loving my MM hunter, this is great news!
That's awesome! I'm really enjoying it so far. We are focus starved somewhat, but I can't wait to get into raid next week and M+ the week after that. It's going to be great! I love that we'll actually have some options between the 2 hero talents.
Banging out this video overnight, like a champ! Thanks, T!
I should probably stop staying up so late.. but this expac has been great so far and I can't wait to see more players enjoying my favorite spec in the game.
As a sharman I wanna say I can't wait to see my windfury buff make yall go crazy lol love this video mate makes me wanna level my marksman next
I can't wait for my raid lead to start putting me in the windfury group lol :) Thank you for watching as always and we'll have to do some dungeons soon my friend!
hell yeah ❤ now all trees r cool :)
This is great, i was waiting for this. I just hope they also update the visuals. I play dark ranger and the biggest changes i have visually are 2 green trinkets doing some void stuff. I really want my disengage to trigger a scream like in the BOA expansion cinematic from sylvanas.
@Espeque it's a huge leap in the right direction. I can't wait to see how all this plays out. Great time to be a MM hunter!
overhaul or unfinished?:D
@nickwhite8824 yes lol. It always felt half baked. But these are some great changes.
@@MrEggplant great vid!
This is what we wanted!
Yeah!! I wish it would have launched this way, but these are great changes and I appreciate Blizzard being quick to act. This is going to be a ton of fun to playtest over on the PTR. And the fact that we have the opportunity to run with Wailing Arrow in M+ is a great addition as well. Thank you for watching my video!
My dreams come true, finally 😮 I love my MM
11.0.5 is looking pretty good. The changes to Dark Ranger are great, but so is the QoL changes in the trees and the changes to Steady Shot and Steady Focus!
hey bro, loving ur videos, they have been really helpful for me as a fairly new retail player, keep up the great work! also wanted to ask would u upgrade the stonevault crit vers weap to rank 8?
Hey there!! Welcome to the retail version of the game! If there's anything I can do to help you out, let me know! Yeah I would pump that weapon up! The higher ilvl on the weapon plus the good crit amount on it makes it a great pick. I personally didn't get it to drop out of heroics, but I did the same thing with the crossbow I did get to drop.
Great video man definitely excited about the rework and the possibility of playing Dark Ranger now. In the talent tree I would pick improved death blow increasing the chances for black arrows from aimed shot and rapid fire it will even give us a little two target cleave. Also will every time we get death blow give us black arrow regardless of the targets health since it says that it will replace kill shot
That's absolutely right! So we now have an 80/20 zone again, and we'll get that Deathblow key word on a ton of abilities. This'll have to be tuned for PvP but it's going to be so much fun to playtest and this is what I wanted Dark Ranger to be when it was unveiled.
Im starting to love thie new DR rework
this is another amazing video and thank you so much for posting this. i guess they saw the last message i sent to you about getting wailing arrow in an AOE build lol. just wondering, have you ever tried making a cleave build? like doing the single target build but putting a point in volley? for fights that aren't fully aoe but every so often mobs come out, ie: first boss in palace?
Oh yeah, absolutely. You can make cleave builds for ST with adds type fights. I'll work on getting a build for each boss fight in raid next week and I'll be live on Tuesday streaming my guild's raid.
Good job mr Egg
Thank you for watching my video! I'm excited for 11.0.5 and I need to jump on the PTR to test out the changes.
The time of the MM Hunter might FINALLY be upon us :)
Very soon my friend :) I'm going to jump on the PTR in the coming days to post a video about the changes!
this will be nice in pvp i like the changes on steady shot as well the one cast for the haste buff is great i still dont think multi shot should be a talent though should be just standard
I agree with all that you said. The Steady Shot and Steady Focus changes ARE HUGE! And something I've been championing for quite some time. I'd love to see multi-shot to at least give you trick shots, if they are going to make us spend a point on it. They shouldn't be two points, just like beast cleave shouldn't be 2 points in BM.
I had a lot of similar thoughts. MM kind of slaps in AoE without those three extra points put into the middle of three for the extra AoE perks, so it genuinely might be better to grab the Windrunner/Wailing Arrow talents for a bit of single target love. Bosses in M+ still need to die, too, and those perks in the middle very well could just be overkill. Feels nice to have options.
Do u think dark ranger will be good fot mythic plus?
Not a big fan of sentinal
The new rework, absolutely, assuming they don't tune it into the ground. I'll most likely be playing it in keys in 11.0.5.
@@MrEggplant ty mate
Keep up the good work ur guids always work
It sounds like with Withering Fire it will automatically cast Black arrow for you? Or is this the standard verbage for just granting you an "instant cast proc"? If it was automatic that would be the greatest QOL
Hey there my friend! So it will automatically cast Black Arrow for you, which is huge. It's exactly what I was asking for in the Beta, finding a way to get that ability off the GCD and having it automatically send will be huge. That automatically fixed the log jam during TS that having deathblow procs caused. That coupled with a nice amount of haste and focus regen through Steady Shot is HUGE!! Thank you for watching!
@@MrEggplant HUGE! I chose to play MM again this xpac hoping for some juicy changes and boy did I make the right choice. Dark Ranger thematically is insanely cool, especially with Withering Fire. Thanks for your content!
ok they did it.. now I want these changes to go live today and not in 8 weeks from now :(
I know... I know.. But at least they listened and we'll get to play it soonTM. These are fantastic changes and the changes to steady shot and steady focus are HUGE wins as well.
i hope so, Sentinel is boring for me (maybe if i would have Night elf hunter it could go together if you know what i mean ) but Dark Ranger as MM is my wet dream
I totally agree with you on the Dark Ranger changes... it's going to be beautiful. This was what I wanted DR to launch as. But I'll take it in 11.0.5. It'll give players options, which is always important. That coupled with the Slyvannas mog that's coming... I'm excited to see more MM out there! BM should benefit as well. Sentinel is frustrating because your own group mates can't see the circle of Lunar Storm that you drop and has a large percentage of your damage invested in said little circle. Thank you for watching!
I'm so excited for Dark Ranger now. Sentinel is so blah
@@MrDoctorDave this is exactly what I envisioned when DR info came out. Can't wait to see what else they come up with! Thank you for watching!
Going dark ranger it seems really silly to not spec hard into the left side of the tree for the deathblow talents and wailing arrow with the whole Shadow damage theme and damage scaling
It's just going to depend on what the damage profiles will look like. Missing out on all that Explosive Shot damage from Salvo would be pretty big. But again, that's just a sample build like we currently use in dungeons at the beginning of season 1. Things change and I can't wait to get my hands on it. I'm just happy that they gave us the option to pick both Salvo AND wailing arrow in our builds.
How mobile is mm hunter? Im looking to pick up a ranged class but i dont like long cast times standing still like mage
We're very mobile until we're not. Because everything we have is castable/usable while moving, except for one, which is Aimed Shot. It's our big damage dealer and it has a 2 second cast. It casts faster during Trueshot, which is where you want to spam it, but you'll learn very quickly when you can and cannot stop to get an Aimed Shot off. Aimed Shot really drives our damage and gives us precise shot procs and also helps us whittled the CD down on Trueshot.
Incredible to see such a big overhaul so early into the expansion.
I know that it should have released this way, but I really appreciate seeing these changes so early, instead of waiting for 11.2 type thing. If we have to wait a little longer to get something really good.. I'm all for that and it's shaping up to be pretty great :)
I wish they would let survival dual wield so I could be a real dark ranger.
That would be a cool addition.. like with single minded fury for our warrior friends. I think that would be a great change and would allow more use of agility swords other than just for Outlaw. I'll leave that as feedback next time I'm play testing my hunter. Just because I main MM doesn't mean I don't want my Year of the Spear brothers to not have options too. Thank you for watching my friend!
Why are reworks coming so soon after a major xpac release??
Almost like it was released unfinished
I mean, that's true. But I'm glad we're seeing this so early in the xpac, instead of in 11.2 type thing. Better a small delay than it dropped in the middle or the end. Not making excuses for them though, as the MM hunter community gave them TONS of feedback throughout the Alpha and Beta.
when will this be available?
@MegaFckup this comes out with 11.0.5, my guess is that will be in Oct or November. Might line up with the 20th anniversary of wow festivities. But there's no date currently.
Great that's all we are going to see in bgs now so I'll level mine.
If you cant beat them join them😂
Welcome to the Hunting Party :) I've really been enjoying PvP on mine so far. I haven't played too much, but usually top damage and Killing Blows in random bgs. Jus finished my honor set of gear today.
now make it a survival hunter hero talent
I've been asking for years and years for them to implement more of the old survival playstyle in with MM. I got my wish. Blizzard looks like they're listening more to feedback, so hopefully our Year of the Spear brothers and sisters will get more love too :)
good because currently its a trash build i went sentinel after trying Dark Ranger for a couple of days the buffs weren't as consistent as sentinel.
@miamianz I mean Sentinel has been the best since Beta, you'll want to run it for sure until 11.0.5. Too many issues with DR currently.
one thing sucks about these changes.. having to wait so long for them to go live
Maybe it won't be two months to get 11.0.5, sometimes they push those partial patches out faster. As long as it gets tested and implemented correctly, I think it'll be worth the wait.
"Overwatch
All Sentinel debuffs implode when a target affected by more than 3 stacks of your Sentinel falls below 20% health.
This effect can only occur once every 15 sec per target."
Its huge aoe nerf? Does it currently only work once?
I think it's like that, it just wasnt included in the tooltip
Yeah from my understanding, that's it's internal CD currently in game. It just didn't state that on the tool tip. I could be wrong, and I'll double check that once it all hits the PTR and I have time to check it out.
They need to remake Shadow Pan it's fucking dull and nother like shadow pan
I'm not super familiar with Monk hero talents, what parts do you like and what parts do you want them to rework? Thank you for watching my video!
Look not enjoying bm hunter dps. Went from high dps range to the lowest dps in the game minus fire mage.
Here's hoping that these changes will be good for BM as well :) I don't play it that often, but it'll be nice to see them get a boost.
That Dark ranger hero talent that buffs Multi shot is crap, nobody uses multishot in pvp for MM, shadow surge was crap now it is great
Oh yeah, the multi-shot ability isn't anything special in ST or PvP, but it's just a talent you get and you don't have to pick it over something else. Shadow Surge is a big boost and I can't wait to play test this in the PTR.
Hunters are weak
I disagree, but I know that each of the 3 spec's falters in either AoE or ST. They all have their bright spots.
i think they should put the changes now.
I mean, I want them now too, but they do need to be tuned. If they don't get tuned properly... that's when you get nerfed into the ground and then no one plays it :/ Our patience will be rewarded.. hopefully!