Angel Reece also claims to be drawing eyes to the WNBA, as well as Caitlin Clark. If she truly believed that, she wouldn't reference Caitlin Clark's name in every interview to leverage attention from her. Without stat-padding fake stats, Angel is barely above average as a player.
Totally Agreed But Angel Reese action with the Ring finger and you can't see me is like throwing Gasoline to a Big Camp Fire already... you got a Forest Fire.... Underdogs .. We all love the Underdog even for the richest man in the world in Elon Musk, he still drive the needle with his speech.
@@Locutus.Borg. You don't know basketball. Rebounding is a skill. Reese needs to work on her shooting touch,no doubt. Akeem Olajuwan was the same when he entered the NBA,he was all dunks and layups. Three years from now,Reese should be a better shooter.
@davidmilton5887 Joining the pros is not the time for Reese to "just be" learning how to make baskets. That's insane. In what other profession is someone allowed to play in that they can't score in? 😅
Yeah, some folks don't get the meaning of the word "generation". JuJu is great, but not great-great. She'd have to break 50 college records and 68 pro records before she can even begin to be compared to Caitlin. And "if" she managed to do that, CC will be years ahead of her leaving her an even longer trail of records to break.
Angel had nothing to do with people showing up to support CC!!! There are level to this stuff and nobody is on the level of CC. Now they want you to sell the next CC, JuJu or Paige or someone else. Its all hot air, they dont call you a generrational player and the face of basketball for no reason.
So Iowa just took down the then unbeaten south Carolina no 1 team in the nation and we didn't know who Clark was dropping 42 on the Gamecocks in the final four
The simple fact that shoots down Angel Reece's false claims to be a significant factor in bringing eyes to the WNBA is to compare crowd attendance and TV viewership for Chicago Sky games vs Indiana Fever compared to against ALL other franchises. The only time the Sky got significant numbers in both and even had to change venues to accommodate the extra fans is when the Sky played the Fever, and even then more than half of the fans were wearing CC 22 Fever jerseys! *_Drop Mic_* 🎤
No, CC rose to popularity on the strength of her game, her competitiveness, her leadership, and her off-court poise and classiness, not to a non-existent rivalry with Reese. CC was drawing in viewers even in games where Reese was nowhere near.
Caitlin is from a small state which hasn't had a national championship in basketball. So when she broke onto the scene with a completely different style from all other women's players, she elevated Iowa basketball to new levels. She has a fantastic personality, very charismatic and always makes time to speak with fans and sign autographs. The Iowa fans, families and sports pundits were drawn to her like bees to honey. Soon it became must see TV wherever she played and it continues today. JuJu is a fantastic player too, but she plays a more traditional style. She also doesn't attract families or young girls to the game and she will never put butts in seats like Caitlin. Caitlin is a transcendent player and WNBA leadership are idiots for trying to force new fans to watch their tired 'old' stars instead of embracing the Caitlin Clark effect. She will make them all rich if they they just would embrace her.
@@gciking Exactly. JuJu is a fantastic player but CC’s appeal is multifaceted, it’s her creative playmaking, long 3’s, like Bird, the ability to raise a historically average College bb program to new heights, the fact that she’s relatable, she seems like the girl next door, she doesn’t have dominant physical attributes or height which like Steph Curry and Stockton make her more relatable. Fair or unfair, people don’t gravitate towards JuJu or Paige or Aj’a or Breanna Stewart in the same way. Muhammad Ali was more famous and marketable than Joe Frazier. In 1996, Tiger Woods was the most famous player in Golf and he was ranked 39th in the world. That’s how life be sometimes
If a Black player comes along who attracts fans the way Clark does, the WNBA and it's "woke" players will embrace her. They will not treat her the same way they treat Clark. If Clark was Black, she would be beloved by all. Just look at how they're going to embrace Watkins even if Watkins doesn't have as large of a fanbase as Clark does.
_@The Fumble_ Caitlin Clark has black fans, white fans, Asian fans, young fans, old fans, even international fans. It isn't just the white folk. Caitlin Clark has universal appeal, and it isn't about colour, it's about skill, personality, charisma and class. She is articulate, and she makes people laugh without putting others down. Caitlin always takes the high road and avoids rolling around in the mud like many of the petty WNBA players. She fights behind the scenes to get players paid more and to improve their conditions and their profile in the sports world. For all this, she continually receives hate and people keep mentioning race and colour as if that is the only variable in the equation. Why?
I m from Europe and i never watched WNBA before CC but since she entered WNBA I `ve watched all Fever games....I `ve seen some Iowa games not all of them because its hard to watch them from Romania. but I m a huge CC fan....
@@scg_1981 @scg_1981 I'm from Australia and I never watched the NBA outside of Larry Bird, Michael Jordon or Steph Curry highlights or the WNBA at all until I 'discovered' Caitlin Clark's NCAA career highlights. I only ever used to watch the Australian basketball teams at the Olympics. There is no questioning that Caitlin Clark is an international phenomenon, and it isn't just because of her skills on court, but how she presents herself off court as well. Her humility, sense of humour and quick wit is a stark contrast to so much of the toxicity of the WNBA. FYI, our friends and neighbours are Romanian. Small world.
Trying to bring down CC so quickly to prop up somebody who hasn't done it consistently is a way to alienate some of those fans that tuned the last seasons.
All of CC's Haters are looking for 'The Great Black Hope" that can dethrone her as the Queen of The WNBA now. She stepped in and ran the table on the vets smashing their records and showing them up. They'll take anybody BUT Caitlin and they were even trying to push poor Paige Bueckers as an alternative to CC. She's good, but she's nowhere near CC's level of play. Few WNBA players are near CC's level of play.
i just don't understand what is going on, how hard is it to admit CC is better, and even if CC was not better, how hard is it to see that the entire god damned world is behind that woman and support her and do not care about CC being white?
Isn't it funny how Angel thinks both she and Caitlin are equally popular, but it's only Angel Reece who keeps mentioning Caitlin Clark's name to get the cameras pointed towards her. I can't remember hearing Caitlin mentioning Angel by name once! So who needs who? 😂
@@Locutus.Borg.shes always got to find a way to associate with CC. Reese needs to leave CC out ofher interviews or fi ding a way to get attention with CC.
@@BLACKRULERSHIP Naah fam that white girl was selling out arenas when Reese was at Maryland. Go watch the Iowa vs Maryland game 2022. CC was cooking em.
I lost respect for JuJu when she said Reece should be ROTY instead of Caitlin. No respect at all left for her. Anyone who thinks it was close shouldn't be around a basketball.
@ Lol. I don’t understand why people don’t understand that. They look for all kinds of angles. She’s white, she’s privilege, she’s a Midwestern girl blah blah. No she is a fighter! She took that little team and battled against the greats TWICE! How can you not admire that and respect it. La muchacha tiene, as we say, cojones!
@@marisoltammero3331 Fo' REAL tho'! LOL When I really want to twist the knife of truth in them, I say... "A 22 year old corn fed girl from Iowa broke 68 WNBA records in her first year." They get livid! 😂 96% of NEW black WNBA fans and 69% of NEW hispanic fans specifically said that they came onboard precisely "because of" Caitlin Clark. And that's the WNBA saying that. Caitlin is the NBA's favorite WNBA player. Her haters better wake up and recognize that she is just objectively great. Que viva la RRRREINA del WNBA!
@@GreatlinClarkFan-c5h Eso mismo!!! I’m originally from Brooklyn, but I live in Fort Lauderdale now. I had such a love hate with this idea of her playing for Unrival. I knew in my heart she shouldn’t play with esas cuervas, but she was only 40 minutes away. My husband promised he would find a way to get me tickets. Then she said no and I’m sure he made a sigh of relief, because I was going to hound him forever.
@@marisoltammero3331 I'm from Yonkers, now upstate in The Catskills, but I work down in NYC. I used to live in Kissimmee for a minute. I'm the same way about Unrivaled. YES, of course I'd love to see her play during the winter, BUT, I know those ratchets would do everything in their power to take her out and injure her in a league that wouldn't affect their WNBA careers. So that was a good trap for CC to walk into and possibly not make it back in for the 2025 season. I'm gonna try to get Liberty/Fever tickets when they come here. Prices are going to be through the roof to watch CC, but I don't care if I'm in the nosebleed seats, I'm going to Brooklyn if I can get tickets to see her live and if she just sunk ONE 3-point shot, that'd be icing on the cake for me.
I hope you realize that there is very large part of CC fans that are black. There’s also several reasons she’s considered a “generational talent”. CC brings a level of excitement to the game, that very few have done before her. If the ball is in her hands when she crosses half court, are you gonna get a logo 3, are you get a drive to the basket or are you gonna get a dime to a rim runner, you never know. She may not even get past the opponents free throw line before she makes a full court pass. The other thing you didn’t take into consideration is, in the LA area there are a lot of different options for spending your entertainment dollar. How many of the professional games are sold out? Despite Iowa graduating 4 of their starters, every home game was sold out before the season started. If you remember during the 2023 tournament CC had a 40 point triple double against Louisville in the elite 8, than she had a 41 point game to help beat undefeated South Carolina. So she was drawing crowds before Angel did her thing with the you can’t see me and pointing at her finger. CC’s ability to lead basically a no name team that wasn’t loaded with 5 star recruits to national championship games not once but twice, is part of what makes her so popular.
Fun fact: 96% of the new BLACK fans that came into the WNBA said that Caitlin Clark brought them to the league and 69% of Hispanic fans said the same thing. The only people who care about her race are "The Culture"-type fans, the ones who feel that CC is gentrifying their sport as if they owned the sport. Meanwhile, on the low, the overwhelming majority of WNBA players love The Caitlin Clark Effect on their game. They don't care what color she is. Just like the rest of us.
Caitlin can do amazing things, but it's the way she does it that draws people. She has a flair to her style that is absolutely addictive to watch. Then she breaks out with her big heart and humility off the court and you can't help but support her.
@@davidmilton5887 😂😂😂...and JUJU can drug 3000 people to the arena...right?, where also CC not able to do that..😂😂😂... Cause CC BROUGHT 10000+ TO THE COURT, WHEN JUJU IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT...😅😅
Nothing to do with white fans for white girl or black fans for black girl, stop pushing the race shit... Lok at the crowds for caitlin, they are all colours and creeds, and I bet juju, has fans from every race, it's about talent, timing, and likeability.. Caitlin has an aura, juju and paige and a host of others are fantastic players, but they are not caitlin clark... She is one of one, no matter what colour she is,, stop with the race baiting
Juju is boring. She scores points thats it. She doesn’t have much assists. And she doesn’t interact with the fans and Cheering with the fans. CC was popular before Angel Reece existed
The only reason Reese is famous is b/c she taunted a famous basketball player 2 years ago. If she does that to an average player, does anybody even care? If she hadn't done that, would anybody even talk about her? If Clark was Black, would anybody notice Reese?
@@Fayn757 Yes, she was. Not as popular but people knew her before they knew Angel Reese. Remember when Clark waved the South Carolina girl off who had the ball at the 3 pt. line? Many fans got upset about what they thought was disrespect shown toward the South Carolina girl. Some fans even ridiculously made that show of disrespect a race issue. Reese even mentioned that as a reason she waved her hand at Clark saying something to the effect she did it for girls who look like her meaning Black girls. She played the race card when race had nothing to do with Clark waving off the SC girl. Reese is smart in that she attached herself to the Clark popularity train. That's why she keeps mentioning her.
Because her style of play is nothing special. If you’ve seen Candace Parker than you’ve seen Juju Watkins. Caitlin Clark was the first of her kind. A chick launching threes from 30 feet like Steph Curry. It simply hits different.
You can't force fandom...Everybody watches CC for exciting game play...She was a star before Angel...She was going to be a star no matter what or who her "rival" is...As a black man i have two of her jerseys...and it ain't because she's white.
Playing style is not more exciting than juju . Juju is a true sophomore who is just amazing with what she’s doing . If you think Caitlin had the most exciting style in basketball then you clearly don’t know basketball
@@benadek6703 ok, let's just say Caitlin is not as exciting. then explain to all us in different countries around the world, why we watch Caitlin? Explain to the thousands of people that sell out every game, and the millions that tune in to the wnba to ONLY watch CC play, explain why she has this appeal. and leave forking race out of it because i'm black. so don't try that shit on me.
Playing style make the difference.juju game aja style common. Catlain like magic Johnson flamboyant unpredictable. Passing is the most elite asset of cc her shooting is unmatched plus her mental toughness.
Juju's storyline is different and it's not resonating like Caitlin's did. Plus, Caitlin has personality + on her side. Caitlin is exciting to watch. Her interviews are must see TV too. Caitlin is kind of funny if you haven't noticed.
Exactly. Joe Frazier was by all accounts equally as great as Ali as a boxer. Won golden gloves, won gold at the Olympics, beat an undefeated Ali in a Title fight and successfully held his title thru various title defenses against top notch opponents but for whatever reason, Ali’s gift of gab, his charisma and style of winning boxing just completely overshadowed Frazier. People gravitated towards Ali, fairly or unfairly. It is what it is but that just how life be sometimes. People gravitate towards CC. Not JuJu
You guys are soooo off. Caitlin is simply more exciting. White fans came out in droves for MJ and LeBron and Tiger. You are actively discrediting Caitlin’s talent and game with your race hustlin
I swear these people are so dumb what a horrible take. CC22 won the people over because of her skills and who she is as a person. Juju has proven much and is being pushed aggressively by media.
First of all, Grace did not play any factor in it and until certain people can get over that it’s the weakest argument ever. Secondly Iowa and Clark were selling out stadiums/arena long before she ever even played Angel Reese. But please drop the race crap because that’s garbage
Clark has a rare instinct for the game you just don't see in any other female player. In fact you don't see it in any male player. That is what makes her so interesting to watch. She plays with her mind at all times.
JuJu goes to a major school in a major city that has multiple big venue sports teams. So even though she's talented, she one among a number of talented athletes. CC was from a small city that doesn't have the amount of talented athletes and athletic prestige as LA, so she stood out much more.
There have been plenty of Ballers through the years from small towns. The Caitlin Clark effect is probably as much about the way she carries herself off the court as the way she plays on it.
It’s interesting that nobody talks about how white basketball fans embraced Michael Jordan even though he is Black. Why did they embrace him (and buy his sneakers)? Because he was a great player, must see tv, and accomplished great things. Caitlin is like Michael - a great player, must see tv (obviously confirmed by the record tv viewership both in college and the WNBA), and accomplished great things (she took her team, which nobody thought would get to the Final Four, to beating an undefeated team and to two consecutive national championship games). They are both their generations’ most exciting player. Juju is an excellent player. But she has yet to accomplish anything great. Maybe she will, time will tell. The fact that USC fans don’t come out to watch her and her highly ranked team is sad (remember Iowa sold out their arena not only last year, but this year even without Caitlin).
That's because some black people have the mindset that we are so special that if we didn't do it can't be done but when you look back through the years in the 70s some of the greatest groups were a mixture black and white artists white guys on the drums black guys lead singers white guys writing the songs the Heatwave Sly and the Family Stone
No. Caitlin's fans are more enamored with CC than JuJu's fans are with her because of Caitlin's play which JuJu is nowhere near CC's level "yet" and it's a disservice to even compare her to CC. Give JJ the time to mature. She's a baby still...probably the best prospect ever, but still a baby. Caitlin's ship has already sailed. The only things she has left to do is to win a championship (in thinking realistically 2026) and MVP (which she should've had last year). She's already broken 68 WNBA records. She's going to have to start breaking her own soon. 😂
If Juju was at home, what does race have to do with anything? Was there a massive exodus of women's college basketball fans? The avg is about 3,900 at USC.
I love Juju. She’s an amazing player. But there’s just something about Clark. She’s electric. She plays fast - the game is way way faster when she’s in it. I don’t know how to describe it. Her interaction with the crowd. Her ability to make her teammates better. Clark just has the whole package and I’m not sure, currently, that there’s another women’s basketball player that can be compared to her.
One other thing Clark did not really draw national attention till midway through her sophomore year despite crazy numbers, and it did not really go viral like till midway into her junior year. And it was that junior year run to the championship game that really got the national spotlight with those 40pt games and a triple double etc.
Actually shes selling out tickts and popular around the world in her beginning of junior year. Shes always on sports news showing her highlights many people watch her on live stream in you tube. Shes popular even before that LSU game, that story is only in America but around the world Clark is the most popular NCAA men or women. CC gas the star appeal, that aura like MJ has that draws people, its innate in them. Juju and Paige are goid but they gave no appeal like that, its not about color, its her game, her personality.
CC game drew people in, “ you gotta see this girl shoot from the logo” that got our attention. Everyone else competes but CC is a show all on her own. Shes just different like Steph Curry, Michal Jordan and Tiger Woods.
If Caitlin Clark wasn't VERY good I would not be watching the W(WE)NBA. Let these things happen organically, serendipitously. The NBA tried to give us Jimmer Fredette several years back but he wasn't good in the NBA. They tried to give us "Baby Jordan", Harold Miner, years ago but that didn't pan out. Caitlin was and still is breaking all-time records! The NBA currently has Damian Lillard and Trae Young but they are NOT Steph Curry! Caitlin Clark is the real deal and is even making the league better because the rest of the league is even adding some "hot sauce" by upping their game. They see how much people are now paying attention to the W(WE)NBA so they're really trying to shine even more. We're getting to see the new stars because Caitlin is bringing more eyes to the W(WE)NBA). The W(WE)NBA NEEDS A NEW COMMISSIONER!!!!!!! One who isn’t scared of the players!
Juju isn't breaking records. I seriously don't know why people are trying to overhype Juju already. And Reese? Really? Check out any Iowa regular season game. Start with "the shot" and go from there. Nobody knew who Reese was, everyone knew Caitlin. You got it backwards
Clark plays to the crowd. She signals to them to clap and cheer. In pro wrestling, when a performer is fouled, he/she seeks revenge. When Clark is fouled, she shoots a 3 in their face. She gets the crowd involved. She also is sweet and nice off the court, signs autographs, and is a generally good celebrity for adults to show their kids.
There are lots of really good players--and being a great player doesn't make you a phenomenon like CC. Neither Juju (black) or Paige (white)---shades of Pulp Fiction here...will ever achieve what Clark has already done--not even remotely close. Y'all (Sumaria) are just tripping with these shallow narratives. Reese had little to due with Clark's rise or her fame--Reese's antics (i.e., lack of sportsmanship) were self-serving and simply expanded her profile off Caitlin's coattails. (For example, later in the WNBA, Chennedy Carter and Victoria Vivians both became household names overnight after sandbagging Clark. You didn't know who the fuck they were before that). Clark's notoriety wasn't derived from a "storyline"--it was because of her unique skills; the way she attacks the game; the way she controls the field of play; and the fucking ice-water in her veins. She's a phenom because of the WAYshe plays and her popularity has been expanding exponentially since she was 15 years old. Excellent point about "curated internet"...but, Michael Jordan wasn't the most famous person in the world back in the day because of the 13% black US population.
So now basketball is about race huh? Millions of black ppl follow Caitlin too! Juju just don't move the needle like Caitlin so this is dumb to make it about black & white fans. And juju can't make a team look good like Caitlin. She makes everybody on her team look better bcuz she distributes the ball alot & juju doesn't do that🤦♂️
Style matters sometimes. CC passes like Stockton and shoots like Steph but all rolled up into one. It’s lightning in a bottle. Juju and Paige are incredible players. So is Aja but we’ve seen variations of their style. Nobody’s seen a CC before in the female game. Playing the race card is lazy. Why wasn’t Sue Bird or Taurasi more popular if that were the case? If black females can’t get the accolades than how do you explain Simone Biles?
💯 exactly people trying to say she’s very popular because she comes from a small town and other nonsense. This young lady is just different and people likes seeing something different. Juju and Paige games are nice but we’ve seen it before. Period that’s why they don’t really move the needle
Caitlin is famous because not of other people...rather other people are becoming familiar because she is always mentioned by them. Caitlin is the reason why most people are into watching wbb.
Caitlin Clark was already famous and popular way before Angel Reese got in the picture. Here we go again trying to attach Angel Reese to Caitlin Clark.
The world showed up for Tiger Woods. The world showed up for Caitlin Clark. It doesn't look like the world is going to show up for Juju and shame on the media for setting her up to fail like this.
Honestly as good as Juju is, she's not exciting to watch, her style of play is not unique. She shoots a lot and not that well, she doesn't share the ball all that much, she drives and either shoots, hits, misses and or gets fouled. That's pretty much it. Since Caitlin played 4 less games her Freshman season I added a total of 8 games into her Sophomore season. Through 38 games this is how JuJu and Caitlin compare: JuJu scored 1006 PTS on 335 FG of 832 FGA --- 264 FT’s of 312 FTA and 131 Assists Caitlin scored 978 PTS on 324 FG of 679 FGA -- 193 FT’s of 224 FTA and 270 Assists JuJu made 11 more FG’s on 153 more FGA’s , made 71 more FT’s of 88 more FTA’s, had 139 less Assists.
In my view Clark is an amalgam of some of the greatest NBA players I've seen over many years, the only thing she lacks is the ability to dunk. Her skills are undeniable as her statistics indicate and her on court performance is box office. The fact that she is caucasian is relevant to the fact that over 60% of the country is caucasian.
The media is pushing whomever as the next CC but there is no next CC - at least not in the near future. The fans determine who has the juice n CC has the juice
Juju is just not Caitlin!! She doesn’t have the charisma!! Stop saying it’s race or it’s Reese!! It’s Caitlin and her talent!! What she does has never been done, come on people
Thanks! LA is such a huge market you have so much going on all is the same time. I think it’s hard to get people in the building when you’ve got the Lakers playing you have UCLA playing you have MLS soccer playing there’s so much going on in LA on any given night. It’s hard to get people into USC.
JUJU, like PAIGE--NEEDS TO LEARN PUBLIC SPEAKING. Caitlin, like MJ, like KOBE has mastered the art of public speaking, to be humble, talk with confidence, and Smart. Nobody wants to hear Juju,Paige, or even Hailey Van Lith SPEAK! They look awkward and think that it's hipHop time all the time. LEARN FROM CAITLIN! That is where the money is! When people want to watch you play--and SPEAK
U of I grad here. The state of Iowa has no professional teams. This effectively elevates college teams and athletes to a different level and allows fans the ability to focus on college teams. LA has LOTS of professional teams and many different sports that run concurrently with USC basketball. Lots of competition. A second issue is weather. Iowa weather sucks, and during the long winters inside sports (like women's basketball) offers a wonderful diversion. LA has wonderful weather, and many potential fans would rather go to the beach, mountains, or watch a Dodger WS that attend indoor women's basketball.
It's WHY Caitlin IS the GENERATIONAL talent! Not just a label...it's the total of her polished game components - all in a powerful weapon! If it was easy, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT! Her deceptive packaging makes her game "appear" even sicker!!! Her humanity and class shines through - her ultimate power! YOU BEDDA ASK SOMEBODY!🙏🏽
Only BLACK fans think that Caitlin needed an Angel. I never see a clip of Caitlin ever really caring about Angel because everyone knows she’s in a different level. Also you can’t push people to watch anyone’s games. It’s the same way no one can tell you what kinda music or art you like. I’m not white but watch Caitlin because of the overall package. Been a lifelong fan of the NBA & WNBA and i’ve never a star like her gets ambushed by criticisms both media and people in the industry but kept quiet and shut them up playing ball. Angel is just a squeaky wheel.
Angel had nothing to do with Caitlin’s popularity, she is just more exciting to watch, she pushes the pace and shoots 3s like no other. She is just different
You missed it. It is not a race thing. CC is from Iowa. There are no pro teams in Iowa, and Iowa football teams suck. CC was literally the only outstanding player in the state. Also, her teams were winners. She built a large fan base in her home state. People appreciated that she was a modest, home-town girl who did not transfer out and abandon her fans. Had she done so, she would have had a championship ring and about as many fans as Angel Reese. People appreciate her loyalty. She's not just a hired gun. Plus, her play is spectacular. CC took Iowa teams where she was the only player and beat teams loaded with talent. CC handed South Carolina its only defeat in the last two years. She built a huge Midwest fan base, and now she is popular (almost) like Taylor Swift.
Because Caitlin is once in a lifetime and we will never see this type of phenom organically develop again in our lives. It was a perfect storm of an athlete. Never gonna see it again. Nobody can even shoot like her besides Curry and that matters too.
resse has nothing to do with caitlins popularity..iowa is already filling up stadiums even before the 2023 national champioships..ever wonder why reese always mention caitlins name on her interviews and in her podcast ? so stop it...caitlin doesnt need reese the way reese need caitlin !!!
She’s a sophomore and Iowa as a state has supported women’s basketball (originally through its 6v6 version) for a lot longer than people give them credit for. Chill, if JuJu really is transcendent the following will come.
Please stop with “Angel is the antagonist to Caitlin which increased viewership.” Before I saw the 2023 LSU v Iowa game, I was already a huge CC fan. It was the 2024 Iowa season, along with the records CC broke, along with CC’s exciting style of play that brought millions of new eyes to women’s basketball. Also, stop with the skin color argument. Tiger, Serena and Michael Jordan had HUGE followings, most of whom were white people. The huge crowds following Tiger himself and attending Serena’s (and Venus’) events were largely white. Yes, there were more blacks attending golfing and tennis events, but those sports were still overwhelmingly attended by white folks. Caitlin Clark is so popular because of her skill set. She truly is a generational talent. Her style of basketball is something we’ve NEVER seen in the WNBA, and her passing skills are rarely seen even in the NBA. Steph Curry is one of the few who consistently makes “logo threes” like CC does. The WNBA viewership, as well as that of USC and most college programs (Iowa is one of the few exceptions due to the CC Effect) is because the traditional women’s game is generally not an exciting sport. I follow the Lady Longhorns some years, and this year their post play is very strong, plus they have two outstanding guards. But the Longhorns’ game doesn’t have the wow-factor that CC brings. They are averaging 2.5 three-pointers per game. 2.5! That’s a bad game for CC. Now, the Longhorns average 19.5 assists per game (their opponents average 9.3 assists per game), but you rarely see a full court pass to a running teammate, or a behind the back pass like CC routinely does almost every game. How many “broken ankles” do we see in college basketball? Very few. When CC is handling the ball, her dribbling skill-set is so high-level, that even the best defenders can’t keep up. Juju is only a sophomore and already has had an excellent career. However, USC games still follow the more boring style of play. No logo threes, no phenomenal passing, except on a rare occasion, and Juju’s excellent ball handling is due to the fact that she is a superior athlete to her competitors. She does not switch directions three or four times, dribbling between her legs and behind her back like CC does to get a clear drive to the basket, nor does Juju have the 3-pt shots and assist-making skills that CC does. Consider this: USC averaged 1,037 in attendance in 2022-23. So. Carolina averaged 12,942 that same year. USC’s opponents averaged 2,524 in attendance (I’m guessing this is at USC’s away games). So. Carolina’s opponents averaged 7,819 in attendance that same year. We can blame the media and marketing departments all we want but a team’s success is what generates viewership. Caitlin has shown that in women’s basketball, if you want to generate viewership in a game that is kind of boring, compared to the men’s game (which has also gotten a little stale and a little too political), you need a superstar who brings the wow-factor (e.g. Dr. J, MJ, Magic, Bird, LaBron - Tiger, Nadal, Federer, Beckham, etc.).
We’re tired of people in the media telling us WHO we should support with our viewership, our dollars and our votes. Leave us alone, we’ll show you what we want ( ask Kamala)
Oh by the way, I agree JuJu is a great player in her own right, from what I remember she took a not overly talented team to the elite 8, before losing to UConn.
It's simple. It's not race. It not angel. It's the way she plays the game. Juju plays common women's basketball. It's the way she plays the game. She does things we've never seen men or women. She shoots from distances even NBA doesn't. She passes like Steve Nash. She makes the game exciting and interesting. We will never see a draw like Caitlin ever again.
It’s LA… lots of sports competition so it’s hard to build sustained momentum when there are a ton of options to watch. I’m guessing if JuJu played in Madison WI, there would be a larger turnout. I remember Skylar Diggins being a huge draw for Notre Dame in 2012-13.
Caitlin Clark was big before the "Angel Reese" finger thing. Also, it's not about race, Caitlin Clark is GOOD, I mean really GOOD! Caitlin is fun and exciting to watch. JuJu Watkins is not interesting and fun to watch.
@@charisdiscuss7889Doesn’t have the IT factor. CC has something special. Did you see her in that golf tournament? That place was packed, just to see her. I almost drove from Miami to go see her.
@@Todd-k4h there is nothing like Black hope because blacks are use to having great hoopers. Clark is the great white hope because y'all ain't use to having great hoopers in abundance like the blacks.
I think Caitlin has a personality that has a sigificant effect on people and a stile of play. I don’t think color is a factor. Look at track and field- Carl Lewis, Bob Beamon (my personal favorite) and the current day black women runners and men that are extremely popular. Plenty white gymnasts, golfers and tennis players but people want Simone Biles and Tiger Woods and Serena Williams. Most of their fans are white as I am. Also there are many white players in the WNBA on all the teams and no one is filling arenas now or in the last 25 years. I’m 78 years old with 64 years in NYC. In business for decades I had up to 45 employees. Not only was it of no concern to me what color an employee was, more notably in 52 years in business i never heard any employee act or talk any differently to any other employee. I’m now in Florida and a black employee who I hadn’t heard from in about 10 years called after the 2 hurricanes to see if i was ok.
Its simple JuJu does not have the skill set as CC does. Yes, she beat Cc rookie college season point record but she also played 4 more games than Clark. JuJu is not even the top 5 players this season.
It has nothing to do with race or color. Paige is as white as it gets and she will NOT have the same impact as CC. I could have purple skin and still watch CC. It's her personality and playing style that pulls eyes to watch her.
It seems like female announcers want to use race to explain CC'S stardom.. why can't it just be because she's the most exciting player by far....just wondering
Clark attracted normies who don’t really rock with basketball. Hence why the long threes appeal to them. Most of her fans aren’t real basketball fans. Whether it is because of race really doesn’t matter to me. I watched golf because of Tiger Woods. I would be lying if I said him not looking like the typical golfer wasn’t a factor.
What does that even mean, real basketball fans. If I’m spending my precious time and money watching games or going to an actual game, I’m a real basketball fan.
I have not seen a more classless display than what Angel did in that championship game. In any sport that I have ever watched. And I only saw it after I discovered Caitlin in last year's tournament. They replayed it ad nauseum. That is Angel. I have zero respect for her character and me, me, me attitude. You need to look at attendance at Caitlin's games home and away. There is no one close to her. In college or the W.
They need to stop with the Angel Reese Angle, It had some impact in the beginning, But a lot of the most recent fans are not even aware of any of that story line, Caitlin Just made the LPGA Relevant when she showed up, nothing to do with Angel Reese, she just has that '"IT" factor and her game is just exciting to watch, And the fact she stays out of the BS doesn't hurt. There's just positive vibes when you see her.
I didn't know anything about the Caitlyn & Angel rivalry when I started following Caitlyn this WNBA season. And I don't like being told I came out of the woodwork. I came for Caitlyns low go 3s & stayed for the unreal Assist passes. Didn't follow WNBA or NBA (since MJ era) before Caitlyn.
If the world were fair, people would be more invested in JuJu but the world picks who they choose and they chose CC. Joe Frazier deserved to have more popularity and support than he did but Ali cast a shadow that fairly or unfairly made Joe second fiddle even when Joe was 1-0 against Ali and was the world champion. Ali eventually evened it up but even before he did, Ali’s popularity was 10x greater than Frazier. That how life be sometimes. MacGregor is more popular than the entire UFC Roster no matter how many times he loses
CAITLIN WAS SELLING OUT STADIUMS WAY BEFORE SHE EVEN PLAYED AGAINST Angel Reese IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME !
Thank you.. these people just sound stupid
Angel Reece also claims to be drawing eyes to the WNBA, as well as Caitlin Clark. If she truly believed that, she wouldn't reference Caitlin Clark's name in every interview to leverage attention from her. Without stat-padding fake stats, Angel is barely above average as a player.
Totally Agreed But Angel Reese action with the Ring finger and you can't see me is like throwing Gasoline to a Big Camp Fire already... you got a Forest Fire.... Underdogs .. We all love the Underdog even for the richest man in the world in Elon Musk, he still drive the needle with his speech.
@@Locutus.Borg.
You don't know basketball.
Rebounding is a skill.
Reese needs to work on her shooting touch,no doubt.
Akeem Olajuwan was the same when he entered the NBA,he was all dunks and layups.
Three years from now,Reese should be a better shooter.
@davidmilton5887 Joining the pros is not the time for Reese to "just be" learning how to make baskets.
That's insane.
In what other profession is someone allowed to play in that they can't score in? 😅
Generational talent doesn’t show up every year. Juju is great but she doesn’t have the it factor. No race issues just sport
Yeah, some folks don't get the meaning of the word "generation".
JuJu is great, but not great-great.
She'd have to break 50 college records and 68 pro records before she can even begin to be compared to Caitlin.
And "if" she managed to do that, CC will be years ahead of her leaving her an even longer trail of records to break.
@GreatlinClarkFan-c5h JuJu is a better hooper than Caitlin hands down.
@shotarokaneda7525 How so when she hasn't even made it to ¼ CC's stats at this stage in CC sophomore college career?
Show me the receipts. 🤣
It's pitiful that people bring race into this debate.
Angel had nothing to do with people showing up to support CC!!! There are level to this stuff and nobody is on the level of CC. Now they want you to sell the next CC, JuJu or Paige or someone else. Its all hot air, they dont call you a generrational player and the face of basketball for no reason.
She was the only reason we knew who clark was
@@willstrick9185 And just how many people does "we" represent??
So Iowa just took down the then unbeaten south Carolina no 1 team in the nation and we didn't know who Clark was dropping 42 on the Gamecocks in the final four
@ clark has been grow since 2021. No one talked about her until after she lost the national title game
The simple fact that shoots down Angel Reece's false claims to be a significant factor in bringing eyes to the WNBA is to compare crowd attendance and TV viewership for Chicago Sky games vs Indiana Fever compared to against ALL other franchises. The only time the Sky got significant numbers in both and even had to change venues to accommodate the extra fans is when the Sky played the Fever, and even then more than half of the fans were wearing CC 22 Fever jerseys! *_Drop Mic_* 🎤
No, CC rose to popularity on the strength of her game, her competitiveness, her leadership, and her off-court poise and classiness, not to a non-existent rivalry with Reese. CC was drawing in viewers even in games where Reese was nowhere near.
100%..when they faced each other when Reese was at Maryland you saw the CC sellouts. Reese was a good but still unknown player.
Caitlin is from a small state which hasn't had a national championship in basketball. So when she broke onto the scene with a completely different style from all other women's players, she elevated Iowa basketball to new levels. She has a fantastic personality, very charismatic and always makes time to speak with fans and sign autographs. The Iowa fans, families and sports pundits were drawn to her like bees to honey. Soon it became must see TV wherever she played and it continues today. JuJu is a fantastic player too, but she plays a more traditional style. She also doesn't attract families or young girls to the game and she will never put butts in seats like Caitlin. Caitlin is a transcendent player and WNBA leadership are idiots for trying to force new fans to watch their tired 'old' stars instead of embracing the Caitlin Clark effect. She will make them all rich if they they just would embrace her.
@@gciking Exactly. JuJu is a fantastic player but CC’s appeal is multifaceted, it’s her creative playmaking, long 3’s, like Bird, the ability to raise a historically average College bb program to new heights, the fact that she’s relatable, she seems like the girl next door, she doesn’t have dominant physical attributes or height which like Steph Curry and Stockton make her more relatable. Fair or unfair, people don’t gravitate towards JuJu or Paige or Aj’a or Breanna Stewart in the same way. Muhammad Ali was more famous and marketable than Joe Frazier. In 1996, Tiger Woods was the most famous player in Golf and he was ranked 39th in the world. That’s how life be sometimes
Amen
If a Black player comes along who attracts fans the way Clark does, the WNBA and it's "woke" players will embrace her. They will not treat her the same way they treat Clark. If Clark was Black, she would be beloved by all. Just look at how they're going to embrace Watkins even if Watkins doesn't have as large of a fanbase as Clark does.
_@The Fumble_ Caitlin Clark has black fans, white fans, Asian fans, young fans, old fans, even international fans. It isn't just the white folk. Caitlin Clark has universal appeal, and it isn't about colour, it's about skill, personality, charisma and class. She is articulate, and she makes people laugh without putting others down. Caitlin always takes the high road and avoids rolling around in the mud like many of the petty WNBA players. She fights behind the scenes to get players paid more and to improve their conditions and their profile in the sports world. For all this, she continually receives hate and people keep mentioning race and colour as if that is the only variable in the equation. Why?
I m from Europe and i never watched WNBA before CC but since she entered WNBA I `ve watched all Fever games....I `ve seen some Iowa games not all of them because its hard to watch them from Romania. but I m a huge CC fan....
@@scg_1981 @scg_1981 I'm from Australia and I never watched the NBA outside of Larry Bird, Michael Jordon or Steph Curry highlights or the WNBA at all until I 'discovered' Caitlin Clark's NCAA career highlights. I only ever used to watch the Australian basketball teams at the Olympics. There is no questioning that Caitlin Clark is an international phenomenon, and it isn't just because of her skills on court, but how she presents herself off court as well. Her humility, sense of humour and quick wit is a stark contrast to so much of the toxicity of the WNBA. FYI, our friends and neighbours are Romanian. Small world.
She has the global fan base. I come from PNG in the Pacific. Her impact is Greater because her talent draws us to watch her.
@@merichamasta1763 Small world. I come from/live in Australia and I have been to Port Moresby and stayed there for a couple of weeks in 1984.
💯 from one of her black fans
Trying to bring down CC so quickly to prop up somebody who hasn't done it consistently is a way to alienate some of those fans that tuned the last seasons.
All of CC's Haters are looking for 'The Great Black Hope" that can dethrone her as the Queen of The WNBA now.
She stepped in and ran the table on the vets smashing their records and showing them up. They'll take anybody BUT Caitlin and they were even trying to push poor Paige Bueckers as an alternative to CC. She's good, but she's nowhere near CC's level of play.
Few WNBA players are near CC's level of play.
i just don't understand what is going on, how hard is it to admit CC is better, and even if CC was not better, how hard is it to see that the entire god damned world is behind that woman and support her and do not care about CC being white?
Angel had no impact on CC being popular. It’s the Opposite Way, Cece had thousands of fans everywhere why do people give that girl credit come on man?
Isn't it funny how Angel thinks both she and Caitlin are equally popular, but it's only Angel Reece who keeps mentioning Caitlin Clark's name to get the cameras pointed towards her. I can't remember hearing Caitlin mentioning Angel by name once! So who needs who? 😂
angel made cc what she is today
@@Locutus.Borg.shes always got to find a way to associate with CC. Reese needs to leave CC out ofher interviews or fi ding a way to get attention with CC.
@@BLACKRULERSHIP Naah fam that white girl was selling out arenas when Reese was at Maryland. Go watch the Iowa vs Maryland game 2022. CC was cooking em.
@@Locutus.Borg.when is the last time reese mentioned clark?
I lost respect for JuJu when she said Reece should be ROTY instead of Caitlin. No respect at all left for her. Anyone who thinks it was close shouldn't be around a basketball.
Who care about you lost respect for them you aren't nobody.
@@Edward_Johnson3 I did too...and you an you a nobody....so thats 2 nobodys against a nobody. Oh shit.
You lose the fans’ respect, you get more empty seats than paying fans to watch you play.
@@Edward_Johnson3 evidently you do.
@@Edward_Johnson3 Juju is brainwashed into playing the victimhood Olympic
Angel Reese has nothing to do with CC’s popularity. I’m Latina and I love CC because she is an underdog.
Exactamente!
@ Lol. I don’t understand why people don’t understand that. They look for all kinds of angles. She’s white, she’s privilege, she’s a Midwestern girl blah blah. No she is a fighter! She took that little team and battled against the greats TWICE! How can you not admire that and respect it. La muchacha tiene, as we say, cojones!
@@marisoltammero3331 Fo' REAL tho'! LOL
When I really want to twist the knife of truth in them, I say...
"A 22 year old corn fed girl from Iowa broke 68 WNBA records in her first year."
They get livid! 😂
96% of NEW black WNBA fans and 69% of NEW hispanic fans specifically said that they came onboard precisely "because of" Caitlin Clark. And that's the WNBA saying that.
Caitlin is the NBA's favorite WNBA player.
Her haters better wake up and recognize that she is just objectively great.
Que viva la RRRREINA del WNBA!
@@GreatlinClarkFan-c5h Eso mismo!!! I’m originally from Brooklyn, but I live in Fort Lauderdale now. I had such a love hate with this idea of her playing for Unrival. I knew in my heart she shouldn’t play with esas cuervas, but she was only 40 minutes away. My husband promised he would find a way to get me tickets. Then she said no and I’m sure he made a sigh of relief, because I was going to hound him forever.
@@marisoltammero3331 I'm from Yonkers, now upstate in The Catskills, but I work down in NYC. I used to live in Kissimmee for a minute.
I'm the same way about Unrivaled.
YES, of course I'd love to see her play during the winter, BUT, I know those ratchets would do everything in their power to take her out and injure her in a league that wouldn't affect their WNBA careers.
So that was a good trap for CC to walk into and possibly not make it back in for the 2025 season.
I'm gonna try to get Liberty/Fever tickets when they come here. Prices are going to be through the roof to watch CC, but I don't care if I'm in the nosebleed seats, I'm going to Brooklyn if I can get tickets to see her live and if she just sunk ONE 3-point shot, that'd be icing on the cake for me.
I hope you realize that there is very large part of CC fans that are black. There’s also several reasons she’s considered a “generational talent”. CC brings a level of excitement to the game, that very few have done before her. If the ball is in her hands when she crosses half court, are you gonna get a logo 3, are you get a drive to the basket or are you gonna get a dime to a rim runner, you never know. She may not even get past the opponents free throw line before she makes a full court pass. The other thing you didn’t take into consideration is, in the LA area there are a lot of different options for spending your entertainment dollar. How many of the professional games are sold out? Despite Iowa graduating 4 of their starters, every home game was sold out before the season started. If you remember during the 2023 tournament CC had a 40 point triple double against Louisville in the elite 8, than she had a 41 point game to help beat undefeated South Carolina. So she was drawing crowds before Angel did her thing with the you can’t see me and pointing at her finger. CC’s ability to lead basically a no name team that wasn’t loaded with 5 star recruits to national championship games not once but twice, is part of what makes her so popular.
Fun fact: 96% of the new BLACK fans that came into the WNBA said that Caitlin Clark brought them to the league and 69% of Hispanic fans said the same thing.
The only people who care about her race are "The Culture"-type fans, the ones who feel that CC is gentrifying their sport as if they owned the sport.
Meanwhile, on the low, the overwhelming majority of WNBA players love The Caitlin Clark Effect on their game. They don't care what color she is.
Just like the rest of us.
@@GreatlinClarkFan-c5h yes , one here
the playing style that what make us watch CC22 simple as that. they are both great players but CC22 style is much more exciting to watch..
Exactly!
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All you see is color. CAITLIN IS FUN TO WATCH.. Period. no other reasons needed
@PeterTimmermans-e1e Groupie talk
Truth it not about race
Caitlin can do amazing things, but it's the way she does it that draws people. She has a flair to her style that is absolutely addictive to watch. Then she breaks out with her big heart and humility off the court and you can't help but support her.
JuJu is more talented than CC
JuJu doesn't need picks and screens to get open shots.
JuJu can take you one on one with no help at all.
@@davidmilton5887
😂😂😂...and JUJU can drug 3000 people to the arena...right?, where also CC not able to do that..😂😂😂...
Cause CC BROUGHT 10000+ TO THE COURT, WHEN JUJU IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THAT...😅😅
Nothing to do with white fans for white girl or black fans for black girl, stop pushing the race shit... Lok at the crowds for caitlin, they are all colours and creeds, and I bet juju, has fans from every race, it's about talent, timing, and likeability.. Caitlin has an aura, juju and paige and a host of others are fantastic players, but they are not caitlin clark... She is one of one, no matter what colour she is,, stop with the race baiting
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These are young folks talkin'.
They obviously don't have the life experience to comment on such things.
CC = underdog. She played for Iowa for crying out loud. Plus her logo 3's.
Juju is boring. She scores points thats it. She doesn’t have much assists. And she doesn’t interact with the fans and Cheering with the fans. CC was popular before Angel Reece existed
The only reason Reese is famous is b/c she taunted a famous basketball player 2 years ago. If she does that to an average player, does anybody even care? If she hadn't done that, would anybody even talk about her? If Clark was Black, would anybody notice Reese?
you said it !!!
Lmao she was not popular before angel Reese .
@@Fayn757 Yes, she was. Not as popular but people knew her before they knew Angel Reese.
Remember when Clark waved the South Carolina girl off who had the ball at the 3 pt. line? Many fans got upset about what they thought was disrespect shown toward the South Carolina girl. Some fans even ridiculously made that show of disrespect a race issue.
Reese even mentioned that as a reason she waved her hand at Clark saying something to the effect she did it for girls who look like her meaning Black girls. She played the race card when race had nothing to do with Clark waving off the SC girl.
Reese is smart in that she attached herself to the Clark popularity train. That's why she keeps mentioning her.
Angel had nothing to do with CCs popularity! Haha😂😂😂😂
Caitlin is an anomaly, why can't ppl accept it?
Because she is white.
Give it time...they will! Black, White, Latino, Asian...any baller whatsoever!
Nah not really
CC was already selling out stadiums years before being defeated in the finals by lsu. What a joke!!! 😂😂😂😂
Because her style of play is nothing special. If you’ve seen Candace Parker than you’ve seen Juju Watkins. Caitlin Clark was the first of her kind. A chick launching threes from 30 feet like Steph Curry. It simply hits different.
She has the longest average shot distance of any player at this time. It’s 28.10 feet.
You can't force fandom...Everybody watches CC for exciting game play...She was a star before Angel...She was going to be a star no matter what or who her "rival" is...As a black man i have two of her jerseys...and it ain't because she's white.
Making it about race and not Clark's playing style and abilities. Aptly named The Fumble.
They should be called the dump💩
Playing style is not more exciting than juju . Juju is a true sophomore who is just amazing with what she’s doing . If you think Caitlin had the most exciting style in basketball then you clearly don’t know basketball
@@benadek6703 You just fumbled.
@ not at all
@@benadek6703 ok, let's just say Caitlin is not as exciting. then explain to all us in different countries around the world, why we watch Caitlin? Explain to the thousands of people that sell out every game, and the millions that tune in to the wnba to ONLY watch CC play, explain why she has this appeal. and leave forking race out of it because i'm black. so don't try that shit on me.
Playing style make the difference.juju game aja style common. Catlain like magic Johnson flamboyant unpredictable. Passing is the most elite asset of cc her shooting is unmatched plus her mental toughness.
Juju's storyline is different and it's not resonating like Caitlin's did. Plus, Caitlin has personality + on her side. Caitlin is exciting to watch. Her interviews are must see TV too. Caitlin is kind of funny if you haven't noticed.
Wtf are you talkin about cc is boring as fk
Exactly. Joe Frazier was by all accounts equally as great as Ali as a boxer. Won golden gloves, won gold at the Olympics, beat an undefeated Ali in a Title fight and successfully held his title thru various title defenses against top notch opponents but for whatever reason, Ali’s gift of gab, his charisma and style of winning boxing just completely overshadowed Frazier.
People gravitated towards Ali, fairly or unfairly. It is what it is but that just how life be sometimes. People gravitate towards CC. Not JuJu
You guys are soooo off. Caitlin is simply more exciting. White fans came out in droves for MJ and LeBron and Tiger. You are actively discrediting Caitlin’s talent and game with your race hustlin
I swear these people are so dumb what a horrible take. CC22 won the people over because of her skills and who she is as a person. Juju has proven much and is being pushed aggressively by media.
Fans have a right to choose whom they like. It's not a matter of it's her turn to be popular.
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I will never understand why it seems necessary to shove Reese down everyone's throat when Clark gets mentioned. Please stop.
Because of dilusion. Its the people should say she is the next big thing, not the MEDIA.
First of all, Grace did not play any factor in it and until certain people can get over that it’s the weakest argument ever. Secondly Iowa and Clark were selling out stadiums/arena long before she ever even played Angel Reese.
But please drop the race crap because that’s garbage
Win or lose CC is exciting to watch.
Clark has a rare instinct for the game you just don't see in any other female player. In fact you don't see it in any male player. That is what makes her so interesting to watch. She plays with her mind at all times.
JuJu goes to a major school in a major city that has multiple big venue sports teams. So even though she's talented, she one among a number of talented athletes. CC was from a small city that doesn't have the amount of talented athletes and athletic prestige as LA, so she stood out much more.
And that makes her have a Cinderella story which makes her easier to market.
Very well said
There have been plenty of Ballers through the years from small towns. The Caitlin Clark effect is probably as much about the way she carries herself off the court as the way she plays on it.
@@ChuckD-e4z Name one from Iowa on her level, from any sport.
@@SHsparx you are missing my point. I’m saying that people love her for much more than just being a Baller.
It’s interesting that nobody talks about how white basketball fans embraced Michael Jordan even though he is Black. Why did they embrace him (and buy his sneakers)? Because he was a great player, must see tv, and accomplished great things. Caitlin is like Michael - a great player, must see tv (obviously confirmed by the record tv viewership both in college and the WNBA), and accomplished great things (she took her team, which nobody thought would get to the Final Four, to beating an undefeated team and to two consecutive national championship games). They are both their generations’ most exciting player. Juju is an excellent player. But she has yet to accomplish anything great. Maybe she will, time will tell. The fact that USC fans don’t come out to watch her and her highly ranked team is sad (remember Iowa sold out their arena not only last year, but this year even without Caitlin).
That's because some black people have the mindset that we are so special that if we didn't do it can't be done but when you look back through the years in the 70s some of the greatest groups were a mixture black and white artists white guys on the drums black guys lead singers white guys writing the songs the Heatwave Sly and the Family Stone
No. Caitlin's fans are more enamored with CC than JuJu's fans are with her because of Caitlin's play which JuJu is nowhere near CC's level "yet" and it's a disservice to even compare her to CC.
Give JJ the time to mature. She's a baby still...probably the best prospect ever, but still a baby. Caitlin's ship has already sailed. The only things she has left to do is to win a championship (in thinking realistically 2026) and MVP (which she should've had last year). She's already broken 68 WNBA records. She's going to have to start breaking her own soon. 😂
If Juju was at home, what does
race have to do with anything?
Was there a massive exodus of women's college basketball fans? The avg is about 3,900 at USC.
I love Juju. She’s an amazing player. But there’s just something about Clark. She’s electric. She plays fast - the game is way way faster when she’s in it. I don’t know how to describe it. Her interaction with the crowd. Her ability to make her teammates better. Clark just has the whole package and I’m not sure, currently, that there’s another women’s basketball player that can be compared to her.
One other thing Clark did not really draw national attention till midway through her sophomore year despite crazy numbers, and it did not really go viral like till midway into her junior year. And it was that junior year run to the championship game that really got the national spotlight with those 40pt games and a triple double etc.
Caitlin Clarks freshman year was COVID 19 year 2020, no fans and limited TV, the bandwagon would've started earlier.
Actually shes selling out tickts and popular around the world in her beginning of junior year. Shes always on sports news showing her highlights many people watch her on live stream in you tube. Shes popular even before that LSU game, that story is only in America but around the world Clark is the most popular NCAA men or women. CC gas the star appeal, that aura like MJ has that draws people, its innate in them. Juju and Paige are goid but they gave no appeal like that, its not about color, its her game, her personality.
CC game drew people in, “ you gotta see this girl shoot from the logo” that got our attention. Everyone else competes but CC is a show all on her own. Shes just different like Steph Curry, Michal Jordan and Tiger Woods.
Agree.Not just the 3 point shots.She makes incredible passes.She can take the ball to the hoop.Even if she is double and triple teamed.
There were alot of players before like Juju, yes shes good but its just "normal" good if you get what i mean.
If Caitlin Clark wasn't VERY good I would not be watching the W(WE)NBA.
Let these things happen organically, serendipitously. The NBA tried to give us Jimmer Fredette several years back but he wasn't good in the NBA. They tried to give us "Baby Jordan", Harold Miner, years ago but that didn't pan out.
Caitlin was and still is breaking all-time records!
The NBA currently has Damian Lillard and Trae Young but they are NOT Steph Curry!
Caitlin Clark is the real deal and is even making the league better because the rest of the league is even adding some "hot sauce" by upping their game. They see how much people are now paying attention to the W(WE)NBA so they're really trying to shine even more.
We're getting to see the new stars because Caitlin is bringing more eyes to the W(WE)NBA).
The W(WE)NBA NEEDS A NEW COMMISSIONER!!!!!!! One who isn’t scared of the players!
Juju isn't breaking records. I seriously don't know why people are trying to overhype Juju already. And Reese? Really? Check out any Iowa regular season game. Start with "the shot" and go from there. Nobody knew who Reese was, everyone knew Caitlin. You got it backwards
Juju broke the freshmen scoring record and the the most threes in a single game
Clark plays to the crowd. She signals to them to clap and cheer.
In pro wrestling, when a performer is fouled, he/she seeks revenge.
When Clark is fouled, she shoots a 3 in their face.
She gets the crowd involved.
She also is sweet and nice off the court, signs autographs, and is a generally good celebrity for adults to show their kids.
There are lots of really good players--and being a great player doesn't make you a phenomenon like CC. Neither Juju (black) or Paige (white)---shades of Pulp Fiction here...will ever achieve what Clark has already done--not even remotely close. Y'all (Sumaria) are just tripping with these shallow narratives. Reese had little to due with Clark's rise or her fame--Reese's antics (i.e., lack of sportsmanship) were self-serving and simply expanded her profile off Caitlin's coattails. (For example, later in the WNBA, Chennedy Carter and Victoria Vivians both became household names overnight after sandbagging Clark. You didn't know who the fuck they were before that). Clark's notoriety wasn't derived from a "storyline"--it was because of her unique skills; the way she attacks the game; the way she controls the field of play; and the fucking ice-water in her veins. She's a phenom because of the WAYshe plays and her popularity has been expanding exponentially since she was 15 years old.
Excellent point about "curated internet"...but, Michael Jordan wasn't the most famous person in the world back in the day because of the 13% black US population.
So now basketball is about race huh? Millions of black ppl follow Caitlin too! Juju just don't move the needle like Caitlin so this is dumb to make it about black & white fans. And juju can't make a team look good like Caitlin. She makes everybody on her team look better bcuz she distributes the ball alot & juju doesn't do that🤦♂️
This kinda crazy lol Clark was packing those stadiums before the Angel Reese thing by FAR wow
Style matters sometimes. CC passes like Stockton and shoots like Steph but all rolled up into one. It’s lightning in a bottle. Juju and Paige are incredible players. So is Aja but we’ve seen variations of their style. Nobody’s seen a CC before in the female game. Playing the race card is lazy. Why wasn’t Sue Bird or Taurasi more popular if that were the case? If black females can’t get the accolades than how do you explain Simone Biles?
💯 exactly people trying to say she’s very popular because she comes from a small town and other nonsense. This young lady is just different and people likes seeing something different. Juju and Paige games are nice but we’ve seen it before. Period that’s why they don’t really move the needle
Caitlin is famous because not of other people...rather other people are becoming familiar because she is always mentioned by them.
Caitlin is the reason why most people are into watching wbb.
Caitlin Clark was already famous and popular way before Angel Reese got in the picture. Here we go again trying to attach Angel Reese to Caitlin Clark.
The world showed up for Tiger Woods. The world showed up for Caitlin Clark. It doesn't look like the world is going to show up for Juju and shame on the media for setting her up to fail like this.
CC has fans from all backgrounds because she's just different to watch,all other players look slow and boring to watch.
Honestly as good as Juju is, she's not exciting to watch, her style of play is not unique. She shoots a lot and not that well, she doesn't share the ball all that much, she drives and either shoots, hits, misses and or gets fouled. That's pretty much it.
Since Caitlin played 4 less games her Freshman season I added a total of 8 games into her Sophomore season.
Through 38 games this is how JuJu and Caitlin compare:
JuJu scored 1006 PTS on 335 FG of 832 FGA --- 264 FT’s of 312 FTA and 131 Assists
Caitlin scored 978 PTS on 324 FG of 679 FGA -- 193 FT’s of 224 FTA and 270 Assists
JuJu made 11 more FG’s on 153 more FGA’s , made 71 more FT’s of 88 more FTA’s, had 139 less Assists.
In my view Clark is an amalgam of some of the greatest NBA players I've seen over many years, the only thing she lacks is the ability to dunk. Her skills are undeniable as her statistics indicate and her on court performance is box office. The fact that she is caucasian is relevant to the fact that over 60% of the country is caucasian.
The media is pushing whomever as the next CC but there is no next CC - at least not in the near future. The fans determine who has the juice n CC has the juice
it was the logo threes and crazy passes, it's fun to watch
Another thing media love or hate cc2 .she's really articulate spontaneous during interview.
Juju is just not Caitlin!! She doesn’t have the charisma!! Stop saying it’s race or it’s Reese!! It’s Caitlin and her talent!! What she does has never been done, come on people
That's why we called Caitlin a generational talent, because in this generation she's one of one
CC is an artist of her craft. Those do not simply grow on fertile land.
Thanks! LA is such a huge market you have so much going on all is the same time. I think it’s hard to get people in the building when you’ve got the Lakers playing you have UCLA playing you have MLS soccer playing there’s so much going on in LA on any given night. It’s hard to get people into USC.
If CC was in the building, you best believe it'll be sold out. i would wager my life savings that it'll be sold out DURING a lakers game.
Same reason I only watched golf when Tiger played and now I don't watch.
JUJU, like PAIGE--NEEDS TO LEARN PUBLIC SPEAKING. Caitlin, like MJ, like KOBE has mastered the art of public speaking, to be humble, talk with confidence, and Smart. Nobody wants to hear Juju,Paige, or even Hailey Van Lith SPEAK! They look awkward and think that it's hipHop time all the time. LEARN FROM CAITLIN! That is where the money is! When people want to watch you play--and SPEAK
U of I grad here. The state of Iowa has no professional teams. This effectively elevates college teams and athletes to a different level and allows fans the ability to focus on college teams. LA has LOTS of professional teams and many different sports that run concurrently with USC basketball. Lots of competition.
A second issue is weather. Iowa weather sucks, and during the long winters inside sports (like women's basketball) offers a wonderful diversion. LA has wonderful weather, and many potential fans would rather go to the beach, mountains, or watch a Dodger WS that attend indoor women's basketball.
spot on
It's WHY Caitlin IS the GENERATIONAL talent! Not just a label...it's the total of her polished game components - all in a powerful weapon! If it was easy, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT! Her deceptive packaging makes her game "appear" even sicker!!! Her humanity and class shines through - her ultimate power! YOU BEDDA ASK SOMEBODY!🙏🏽
You can’t ask black woman about Caitlin Clark because they will always throw Angel Reese in the conversation SMH
Only BLACK fans think that Caitlin needed an Angel. I never see a clip of Caitlin ever really caring about Angel because everyone knows she’s in a different level. Also you can’t push people to watch anyone’s games. It’s the same way no one can tell you what kinda music or art you like. I’m not white but watch Caitlin because of the overall package. Been a lifelong fan of the NBA & WNBA and i’ve never a star like her gets ambushed by criticisms both media and people in the industry but kept quiet and shut them up playing ball. Angel is just a squeaky wheel.
Angel had nothing to do with Caitlin’s popularity, she is just more exciting to watch, she pushes the pace and shoots 3s like no other. She is just different
She is not exciting in her. Game as Clark. The logo shots the passing ,the small Iowa town. Clark was super exciting.
You missed it. It is not a race thing. CC is from Iowa. There are no pro teams in Iowa, and Iowa football teams suck. CC was literally the only outstanding player in the state. Also, her teams were winners. She built a large fan base in her home state. People appreciated that she was a modest, home-town girl who did not transfer out and abandon her fans. Had she done so, she would have had a championship ring and about as many fans as Angel Reese. People appreciate her loyalty. She's not just a hired gun. Plus, her play is spectacular. CC took Iowa teams where she was the only player and beat teams loaded with talent. CC handed South Carolina its only defeat in the last two years. She built a huge Midwest fan base, and now she is popular (almost) like Taylor Swift.
part of the reason no one watches Juju is because Juju is boring to watch. Like A'Ja.
Because Caitlin is once in a lifetime and we will never see this type of phenom organically develop again in our lives. It was a perfect storm of an athlete. Never gonna see it again. Nobody can even shoot like her besides Curry and that matters too.
Unless a women start Dunking
resse has nothing to do with caitlins popularity..iowa is already filling up stadiums even before the 2023 national champioships..ever wonder why reese always mention caitlins name on her interviews and in her podcast ? so stop it...caitlin doesnt need reese the way reese need caitlin !!!
She’s a sophomore and Iowa as a state has supported women’s basketball (originally through its 6v6 version) for a lot longer than people give them credit for. Chill, if JuJu really is transcendent the following will come.
Caitlin Clark did it first, so the bar is higher for Juju. Juju needs to do something unique, such as add a new wrinkle. DUNK?
Naw…..that ain’t it. Panache and charisma are rare things, and Clark has both.
Please stop with “Angel is the antagonist to Caitlin which increased viewership.” Before I saw the 2023 LSU v Iowa game, I was already a huge CC fan. It was the 2024 Iowa season, along with the records CC broke, along with CC’s exciting style of play that brought millions of new eyes to women’s basketball.
Also, stop with the skin color argument. Tiger, Serena and Michael Jordan had HUGE followings, most of whom were white people. The huge crowds following Tiger himself and attending Serena’s (and Venus’) events were largely white. Yes, there were more blacks attending golfing and tennis events, but those sports were still overwhelmingly attended by white folks.
Caitlin Clark is so popular because of her skill set. She truly is a generational talent. Her style of basketball is something we’ve NEVER seen in the WNBA, and her passing skills are rarely seen even in the NBA. Steph Curry is one of the few who consistently makes “logo threes” like CC does.
The WNBA viewership, as well as that of USC and most college programs (Iowa is one of the few exceptions due to the CC Effect) is because the traditional women’s game is generally not an exciting sport. I follow the Lady Longhorns some years, and this year their post play is very strong, plus they have two outstanding guards. But the Longhorns’ game doesn’t have the wow-factor that CC brings. They are averaging 2.5 three-pointers per game. 2.5! That’s a bad game for CC. Now, the Longhorns average 19.5 assists per game (their opponents average 9.3 assists per game), but you rarely see a full court pass to a running teammate, or a behind the back pass like CC routinely does almost every game. How many “broken ankles” do we see in college basketball? Very few. When CC is handling the ball, her dribbling skill-set is so high-level, that even the best defenders can’t keep up.
Juju is only a sophomore and already has had an excellent career. However, USC games still follow the more boring style of play. No logo threes, no phenomenal passing, except on a rare occasion, and Juju’s excellent ball handling is due to the fact that she is a superior athlete to her competitors. She does not switch directions three or four times, dribbling between her legs and behind her back like CC does to get a clear drive to the basket, nor does Juju have the 3-pt shots and assist-making skills that CC does.
Consider this: USC averaged 1,037 in attendance in 2022-23. So. Carolina averaged 12,942 that same year. USC’s opponents averaged 2,524 in attendance (I’m guessing this is at USC’s away games). So. Carolina’s opponents averaged 7,819 in attendance that same year. We can blame the media and marketing departments all we want but a team’s success is what generates viewership. Caitlin has shown that in women’s basketball, if you want to generate viewership in a game that is kind of boring, compared to the men’s game (which has also gotten a little stale and a little too political), you need a superstar who brings the wow-factor (e.g. Dr. J, MJ, Magic, Bird, LaBron - Tiger, Nadal, Federer, Beckham, etc.).
We’re tired of people in the media telling us WHO we should support with our viewership, our dollars and our votes. Leave us alone, we’ll show you what we want ( ask Kamala)
Oh by the way, I agree JuJu is a great player in her own right, from what I remember she took a not overly talented team to the elite 8, before losing to UConn.
It's simple. It's not race. It not angel. It's the way she plays the game. Juju plays common women's basketball. It's the way she plays the game. She does things we've never seen men or women. She shoots from distances even NBA doesn't. She passes like Steve Nash. She makes the game exciting and interesting. We will never see a draw like Caitlin ever again.
It’s LA… lots of sports competition so it’s hard to build sustained momentum when there are a ton of options to watch. I’m guessing if JuJu played in Madison WI, there would be a larger turnout. I remember Skylar Diggins being a huge draw for Notre Dame in 2012-13.
CC has been a draw far before her LSU game, Iowa in fact is still selling out crowds because of what she did for women’s basketball in the state
Caitlin Clark was big before the "Angel Reese" finger thing. Also, it's not about race, Caitlin Clark is GOOD, I mean really GOOD! Caitlin is fun and exciting to watch. JuJu Watkins is not interesting and fun to watch.
So let me get this right, Clark was popular in college because white fans showed up. Just wow!!
It's almost like the sport don't matter to this people
Wtf you can’t shove stardom to peoples throats. iowa now have more people showing to their games now than her.
You got to rememeber that there is a distinct differnence between followers and fans - case and point here.
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Juju is not a generation talent like CC.
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So shooting 3s is what makes Clark a generation talent. Juju is a better all round player than Clark.
@@charisdiscuss7889Doesn’t have the IT factor. CC has something special. Did you see her in that golf tournament? That place was packed, just to see her. I almost drove from Miami to go see her.
Yep just look at her assists or lack there of @@charisdiscuss7889
Better all around player. So far just scoring. And has a long way to go. Great kinda black hope.
@@Todd-k4h there is nothing like Black hope because blacks are use to having great hoopers. Clark is the great white hope because y'all ain't use to having great hoopers in abundance like the blacks.
I think Caitlin has a personality that has a sigificant effect on people and a stile of play. I don’t think color is a factor. Look at track and field- Carl Lewis, Bob Beamon (my personal favorite) and the current day black women runners and men that are extremely popular. Plenty white gymnasts, golfers and tennis players but people want Simone Biles and Tiger Woods and Serena Williams. Most of their fans are white as I am. Also there are many white players in the WNBA on all the teams and no one is filling arenas now or in the last 25 years. I’m 78 years old with 64 years in NYC. In business for decades I had up to 45 employees. Not only was it of no concern to me what color an employee was, more notably in 52 years in business i never heard any employee act or talk any differently to any other employee. I’m now in Florida and a black employee who I hadn’t heard from in about 10 years called after the 2 hurricanes to see if i was ok.
I only watch the WNBA to watch Caitlin play. If Caitlin doesn’t play then I don’t have to waste my time .
She is not drop dead gorgeous....u need glasses. Shes ave looking...
Let me guess sid is off the charts lol
Its simple JuJu does not have the skill set as CC does. Yes, she beat Cc rookie college season point record but she also played 4 more games than Clark. JuJu is not even the top 5 players this season.
More relevant than the 4 extra games she played is the 200 extra shots Juju took to break that record. All only to outscore her by 121 points.
This is a false narrative. Clark was drawing record viewership before anyone knew who Reese was. Its easily searchable facts.
It has nothing to do with race or color. Paige is as white as it gets and she will NOT have the same impact as CC.
I could have purple skin and still watch CC. It's her personality and playing style that pulls eyes to watch her.
Why does it always have to be about Race? Angel had nothing to do with CC22 fandom! People of all ages are just in awe of CC22. Just stop!
It seems like female announcers want to use race to explain CC'S stardom.. why can't it just be because she's the most exciting player by far....just wondering
Clark attracted normies who don’t really rock with basketball. Hence why the long threes appeal to them. Most of her fans aren’t real basketball fans. Whether it is because of race really doesn’t matter to me. I watched golf because of Tiger Woods. I would be lying if I said him not looking like the typical golfer wasn’t a factor.
What does that even mean, real basketball fans. If I’m spending my precious time and money watching games or going to an actual game, I’m a real basketball fan.
She attracted a lot of NBA fans.
I have not seen a more classless display than what Angel did in that championship game. In any sport that I have ever watched. And I only saw it after I discovered Caitlin in last year's tournament. They replayed it ad nauseum. That is Angel. I have zero respect for her character and me, me, me attitude.
You need to look at attendance at Caitlin's games home and away. There is no one close to her. In college or the W.
They need to stop with the Angel Reese Angle, It had some impact in the beginning, But a lot of the most recent fans are not even aware of any of that story line, Caitlin Just made the LPGA Relevant when she showed up, nothing to do with Angel Reese, she just has that '"IT" factor and her game is just exciting to watch, And the fact she stays out of the BS doesn't hurt. There's just positive vibes when you see her.
I didn't know anything about the Caitlyn & Angel rivalry when I started following Caitlyn this WNBA season. And I don't like being told I came out of the woodwork. I came for Caitlyns low go 3s & stayed for the unreal Assist passes. Didn't follow WNBA or NBA (since MJ era) before Caitlyn.
If the world were fair, people would be more invested in JuJu but the world picks who they choose and they chose CC. Joe Frazier deserved to have more popularity and support than he did but Ali cast a shadow that fairly or unfairly made Joe second fiddle even when Joe was 1-0 against Ali and was the world champion. Ali eventually evened it up but even before he did, Ali’s popularity was 10x greater than Frazier. That how life be sometimes. MacGregor is more popular than the entire UFC Roster no matter how many times he loses
Blame the fans!? Lmao it's never the fans fault.