A microbrand that's listening - WISE Adamascus Bronze

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  • Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
  • I have on the channel today two bronze versions of the WISE Adamascus AD8 series...
    I like the fact that this company has listened to some requests from viewers, however I also feel that they could benefit a little more with a few extra tweaks
    Link to website: wisetimepiece.com
    Thanks for watching..
    00:00 Intro
    01:47 Transparency
    01:56 Specs
    02:20 Wearability
    03:22 Dial
    04:11 Bezel
    05:22 Caseback Limited Run & Price
    06:02 Negatives
    07:01 Positives
    07:52 Lumen
    08:09 Final Thoughts
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  • @david12990
    @david12990 Рік тому +4

    A lot of the commenters like the blue version better. I really like the brown version with it’s warming tones with the bezel and the case.

  • @nikkolomakaveli8295
    @nikkolomakaveli8295 Рік тому +6

    Wise and Zelos are two vastly underrated microbrands they’re a great value, I wonder how they run as far as the movement.

  • @ericfreutel8240
    @ericfreutel8240 Рік тому +1

    Blue. Absolutely gorgeous. Love the brushed ceramic bezel❤❤

  • @j.p.9522
    @j.p.9522 Рік тому +3

    The blue strap even has the look of oxidizing bronze, what a fantastic pairing.

  • @jan77usz
    @jan77usz Рік тому +3

    That's my style. I love them 🤩 Thank You for your video 🤜🤛

  • @DavidSmith-sy2bp
    @DavidSmith-sy2bp Рік тому +1

    As always great presentation Pete , nice looking watches .

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Thank you David, appreciate the feedback 🙏

  • @TheBoldHairspring
    @TheBoldHairspring Рік тому +1

    That's a really good looking watch!

  • @anandanil8158
    @anandanil8158 Рік тому +2

    iv never gasped at a thumbnail before. such a beautiful watch your, photography skills have either done it justice or made me overestimate its beauty

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thank you for the encouragement Anand 🙏

  • @michaelj8793
    @michaelj8793 Рік тому +7

    Peter your photography skills never cease to amaze me Seriously the outdoor footage gave me the feeling of having it on my similar sized wrist It definitely always leaves me wanting more and lean to and away from watches I wasn't quite sure of without actually going into an AD Thanks as always my friend Really 👍

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Thank you for the feedback Michael, appreciated 🙏

  • @nates78
    @nates78 Рік тому +3

    I have the first iteration in Red with a red sunburst dial (Limited edition #300). Absolutely love it! It comes looking almost gold... but patinas nicely. The movement came in at +-1spd and couldn't be happier with it. The bezel came crazy tight but loosens up after about 1 week of constant use. Bang for buck... nothing really comes close for the $600 mark (In the bronze market).

  • @statlerwaldorf7130
    @statlerwaldorf7130 Рік тому +1

    Great review, many thanks

  • @steppbrooEFT
    @steppbrooEFT Рік тому +4

    I have the blue Adamascus, the bezel wears in well after a couple of months and it's not stiff at all now. Feels firm and extremely tactile.

  • @thefirstdutchguy
    @thefirstdutchguy Рік тому +2

    I agree on all your comments but one.......I rather like the wavy pattern! What matt brushing concerned ....when Breitling first introduced their Blackbird I found it really stood out from all their glossy models as well!

  • @baldeagle6128
    @baldeagle6128 Рік тому +3

    Just received my bronze white dial, and it is just as good as my steel burgundy AD8. Very slim so really comfortable to wear, and the FKM rubber strap is even more comfortable than the leather. Personally I like the wavy pattern, the gloss ceramic bezel insert and the tightness of the bezel. Wouldn’t change a thing. Slides underneath motorbike leathers with no problem.
    Can’t wait to get the AD7 in Damascus steel. Really interesting case finish. Are you planning to review this, because your photography is fantastic. Thanks for alerting me to this bronze version.

  • @HAL-xy3om
    @HAL-xy3om Рік тому +1

    I'll take the blue one, thank you very much !

  • @Goose619
    @Goose619 Рік тому +1

    Just ordered the Blue one. The perfect watch for a beach vacation!

  • @ajcallaway123
    @ajcallaway123 Рік тому +1

    Love that they're listening. Would love to see more brushing on the meteorite version AD9M version. These look great, nice video as ever

  • @vladimirsnigur253
    @vladimirsnigur253 Рік тому +1

    They're so cool.

  • @ginocolella6373
    @ginocolella6373 Рік тому +2

    I have the steel and blackdial, i just love it, footprint for me its perfect.. very nice review as usual.. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @NATHANSFLETCHER
    @NATHANSFLETCHER Рік тому +1

    Loving the look of these since your first review, just waiting for a more brushed stainless steel version on a bracelet. Thanks Peter:)

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Hopefully they continue to listen and provide watch the people want
      cheers Nath 👍

  • @TheHandyMan48
    @TheHandyMan48 Рік тому +15

    I purchased the black and steel version about 6 months ago and I can attest that the bezel does soften up over time and usage. Love these new models, great vid as always Pete!

  • @adbraham
    @adbraham Рік тому +1

    They are beautiful watches

  • @minneapolitan
    @minneapolitan Рік тому +1

    Bronze is starting to win me over. I'm drawn to the chocolate version in this example. Thx for mentioning that crucial point, that the manufacturer is listening to feedback and incorporating it back in. That means I'll be watching Wise more in the future.

  • @georgeliquor2931
    @georgeliquor2931 Рік тому +2

    Beautiful watch, i have the blue fade to black and i love it what great value, puts other more expensive watches to shame

  • @stevec6554
    @stevec6554 Рік тому +2

    I have 2 wise adamascus and they are brilliant, had no problems with the bezels at all. Had them nearly a year now with no problems. Can't understand why they make limited editions on some of their best looking models. The blue bronze looks nice. It would also look good in stainless steel, then it would be a good alternative to the blue Tudor black bay 58. For the price you can't go wrong. Great review as always.

  • @georgecupac1202
    @georgecupac1202 6 місяців тому +1

    i like that blue one.

  • @yuu0minae
    @yuu0minae Рік тому +3

    I got the blue/green version and I have to agree the wearability is absolutely on point. The bezel is a bit stiff at first but loosens over time. And yeah, even though I really like the dial with the wave pattern and the colors, the legibility does suffer at certain angles. Another point is the 904L steel, I just can’t see a difference to 316L. If it’s cheaper I’d rather have the 316L. Now the blue bronze one looks fantastic, too bad it’s limited.

  • @madness694
    @madness694 Рік тому +2

    I'm keen on the steel brown dial variant. Just waiting for the aussie dollar to improve a bit haha. Does look good with the bit of brushing, wouldn't be mad if they did that retroactively on the steel

  • @johnbell1859
    @johnbell1859 Рік тому +1

    Wow very nice. 🇬🇧

  • @ozludo
    @ozludo Рік тому +3

    The blue is really nice - but man I'd like to see something similar in green, or teal. As the patina changes those would be fab
    Edit - I'm certain that silicone grease would solve the bezel. And the wave dial is their signature - I think that counts a lot.

  • @nikc1313
    @nikc1313 Рік тому +1

    What a gorgeous watch. Something about it reminds me of William Wood but might just be the bronze. Wonder if they could use one of those scratch resistant coatings to seal it from oxidising. I'd love a bronze watch but only if it stayed that beautiful rose gold colour.

  • @GinkgoJoe
    @GinkgoJoe Рік тому +1

    Glorious crystals on these....

  • @stavros_katsopr
    @stavros_katsopr Рік тому +3

    Still a beauty, no matter what. Even in strange numbers... 333... 666, just lovely!
    Cheers Pete, I'm still in olives hell, needed some charm, thanks mate.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +2

      Persevere with those Olives my friend 🙏

    • @leonkaragiann7552
      @leonkaragiann7552 Рік тому

      Thanks God! the little devil 👿 is in hell... 666 what beautiful 😍 number!!! Be safe my friend Stavros "η ελιά κάνει τους άντρες", "μια ελιά και μια 🍅 ντομάτα κάνουνε σωστή σαλάτα 🥗", "ψωμί 🍞 κι ελιά και Cotsa βασιλιά" -- Γιέ μου πού πας?
      -- Μάνα θα πάω στις ελιές 🤣 🤣🥳

  • @dgross2009
    @dgross2009 6 місяців тому +1

    Considering I as well as many others never turn the bezel that is a non-issue. In fact I like that it is hard to move and stays in plays. Just placed an order for this piece. I really like it's appearance and just about everything about it.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  6 місяців тому

      Great stuff, enjoy it 👍

  • @danielsavadel2151
    @danielsavadel2151 Рік тому +2

    All I can think of with the limited production is it helps justify what I think is a somewhat high price. I just purchased what I think is a good quality watch on a SS bracelet (Phoibos Kraken) with the same movement, for less than half the price. Full disclosure, it was during a sale. But many watch geeks wait for sales to buy something they don't actually need. Your UA-cam watch videos are so well produced. Really outstanding.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Nicely shared Daniel
      And yes you’re absolutely right, we all look for a bargain (to help justify the things we really don’t need) 👍👍

  • @watchchimp3102
    @watchchimp3102 Рік тому +2

    Went a little watch crazy this year, so I'm trying to scale back, but these are very nice!
    I like the Miyota 9000 series movements. They certainly do appear to have replaced the NH35 as the go to microbrand movement of choice.

    • @edwardmorley38
      @edwardmorley38 Рік тому

      There apparently as good as a 2824 movement..

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Рік тому +2

    Get the Blue 🌊 one !

  • @Toda438
    @Toda438 Рік тому

    Wise is worthiness

  • @leonm2407
    @leonm2407 Рік тому +1

    I really like the brown bezel version, and would have bought it no questions asked if it was paired with a brown dial as well. Maybe one day they will make that one. I also agree Peter on dropping the wave pattern now. It has run it's course I think.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Brown on brown, now thats interesting, chocolate delight 😊😂

  • @sinjon
    @sinjon Рік тому

    Pop the bezel off with a case knife and bend the bezel click spring a little to change the stiffness.

  • @tharakapraveen885
    @tharakapraveen885 Рік тому +1

    ❤️❤️❤️

  • @AlexanderB.
    @AlexanderB. Рік тому +3

    These are beautiful watches and in the past, the brand has impressed more than once. However, I would like this in 39 mm diameter and in Stainless steel with brushed surfaces.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      That would be nice indeed 👍

  • @amitjayakumar
    @amitjayakumar Рік тому +1

    The Case shape has a reflection of the 62 MAS

  • @marknylund1007
    @marknylund1007 Рік тому +1

    That blue and bronze looks so good. Too bad I cant afford that.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Visually it was the nicer look for me too 👍

  • @kiljaeden7663
    @kiljaeden7663 Рік тому +1

    I'm would have hoped they'd do a no date version first like they did with the Hitman. I think the AD8 without a date would be awesome.

  • @aarneuuk9601
    @aarneuuk9601 Рік тому +1

    Those look nice, fantastic dimensions
    The blue one does it for me
    Not perfect and really blingy, you're right
    (but you see, I'm in this funny gilt dial appreciation phase rn...)
    The grey/white dial color feels wrong somehow, idk, should have it in hand, I suppose

  • @lgroves336
    @lgroves336 6 місяців тому

    If the watch is used by a diver they would never ever want to see a accidental movement of the bezel. I agree it needs to be TIGHT ! There is a green available that beats both of the colors.

  • @typebflieger
    @typebflieger Рік тому +5

    I like these and the steel versions a lot. For me, the shiny bezel, polished case, and the wave pattern don’t go with my personal taste. I love that they brushed the bronze, went with a matte bezel, and removed the wave pattern. The only other thing I’d love to see is a smaller case option: 39 or 38mm.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      I think many are requesting 39mm, that would be a sweet spot for these 👍

    • @typebflieger
      @typebflieger Рік тому

      @@PeterKotsa I think there’s plenty of room for two case sizes.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      @@typebflieger Hahaha

  • @DanTJones
    @DanTJones Рік тому +1

    Perfect Thaiming mate... I'll leave now then shall I?

  • @HaonProductions
    @HaonProductions Рік тому +2

    If Wise ever makes a midsize 38mm version of this watch, I'd be the first to get one. Would love the thinness in a smaller size for my skinny wrist.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Yeah a few viewers have asked for a 38 or 39, that would be ideal 👍

    • @HaonProductions
      @HaonProductions Рік тому +1

      @@PeterKotsa 39 would be perfect too! Black Bay 58 killer.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      @@HaonProductions oooh, my BB58 would get jealous if they did that 😂

  • @edwardmorley38
    @edwardmorley38 Рік тому +1

    Looks a lovely watch, like the chocolate one.. but the price for Japanese movement 🤔

  • @Kevinjimtheone
    @Kevinjimtheone Рік тому +1

    I still can't find them anywhere in Europe, which is unfortunate.

  • @smoove314
    @smoove314 Рік тому +1

    I have the ad8 in black dial. I wish Wise would quit teasing the bracelet for it on their website with no information. 😫

  • @DBW211
    @DBW211 Рік тому +1

    Is it really that hard to lose the date window? then this watch would be almost perfect

  • @Kwoka_king16
    @Kwoka_king16 Рік тому

    How are you still liking these? I’m very interested in getting the brown one. Could you do a video showing the progress of the patina? That’d be great. Thanks for the review:)

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      They are sending me a production version in March so i will monitor its progress in the coming months, possibly do a photo journal every month or so

  • @leonkaragiann7552
    @leonkaragiann7552 Рік тому

    Bravo Peter, a nice bronze watch, my favorite metal especially when changed color, after time, have a sick green color remember to me the movie Nostalgia of Andrei Tarcofski 👆

  • @benjaminvis
    @benjaminvis Рік тому +2

    Is there still appetite for bronze? I'm not sure I was waiting for that and would the patina not negate the polish vs brush finish of the case? At any rate, I'd be more interested in that change-up in steel, I guess. I find the blue one very flat looking. Maybe ok for some, but for me I think the relatively elaborate applied markers are elevated by that wavy pattern. If you go for this design, I think you'd do best to also go for the wavy texture. It needs it, somehow. With regards to stiff bezels: is this not actually an advantage in that there is little chance of it moving once a position is set?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      For me, that bezel is just that little bit too stiff for my liking

    • @benjaminvis
      @benjaminvis Рік тому +1

      @@PeterKotsa fair dos. I can't feel it, nlr would I be likely to use it!

  • @fcc5923
    @fcc5923 Рік тому +1

    Less bulkier hour hand and I'll buy it in a heart beat

  • @slackdaddy1912
    @slackdaddy1912 Рік тому

    Beautiful watch, but what about its resale value?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      You will find many microbrands do not hold up well in resale
      However that said, I think we buy micro brands because they are great value to start off with rather than thinking about re-sale
      cheers

  • @BaronFlyingClub
    @BaronFlyingClub Місяць тому

    Nice looking watch. What movement?

  • @johnmonachelli5256
    @johnmonachelli5256 Рік тому +1

    any idea if there gonna do a bracelet?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      Not sure John, but I am assuming because this is a limited run they probably won't 😔

  • @shaunboden6951
    @shaunboden6951 Рік тому

    You have probably been asked this many times before, but what's the cool intro music called? thanks, Shaun.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      Hio Shaun
      I downloaded the song from UA-cam free music, but it download as "music download"..so no idea of the name. Im sure its a common theme in their library, I just though it was catchy 👍
      Cheers

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      @@IDKline thats it 👍

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      @@IDKline genius..hahaha

  • @dpns2ster
    @dpns2ster Рік тому +1

    Nice looking watch when new but when you're down $1000 AUD and it looks old but is relatively worthless, can you risk that amount of buyers remorse? Regrettably, doubt they'll sell out anytime soon. I'd either go much cheaper with an Ali watch and just embrace the bronze experience, or save $1k towards an Oris, a Rado Captain Cook, or even a BB58 Bronze. Great editing and composition as ever Pete!

  • @Ossory88
    @Ossory88 Рік тому +1

    Hey petey Pete. Why is bronze good?

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому

      It's not so much as being 'good', it's just another material.
      However, bronze oxidises and changes colour and character. It usually goes darker and dull with each piece turning out a unique look
      cheers

  • @FatherVampire
    @FatherVampire Рік тому +1

    No one wants a loose bezel ... well, obviously with rare exception.

  • @thomasmarshall821
    @thomasmarshall821 Рік тому +2

    Does it oxidize ?

  • @paulhiggins8774
    @paulhiggins8774 Рік тому +1

    Lovely blue watch but I don’t think the strap matches the colour of the watch, a rubber strap would have looked better I think

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      I was thinking the exact same thing Paul, a black or blue rubber would do this justice for sure

  • @tapirdeaalex7104
    @tapirdeaalex7104 Рік тому +23

    Im still waiting for the day they invent a metal that looks just like bronze but without the corrosion.

    • @lskovly
      @lskovly Рік тому +35

      And there is, it`s called rose gold.

    • @eldtritch_eel
      @eldtritch_eel Рік тому +2

      Bronze plated steel doesn't patina like regular bronze.

    • @Not-a-bot222
      @Not-a-bot222 Рік тому

      PVD?

    • @Mile-long-list
      @Mile-long-list Рік тому +3

      It's called gold

    • @david12990
      @david12990 Рік тому +1

      You can always clean it back to it’s original shine?

  • @pardus8panthera5
    @pardus8panthera5 Рік тому

    How do you actually call any watch a "Dive Watch" when it is originally sold on a leather strap? It's like having a "Dive Watch" with no water resistance.

    • @PeterKotsa
      @PeterKotsa  Рік тому +1

      I agree, thats why I didn't call it a dive watch.
      I don't think they call it a diver either in their literature...ideally a Dive watch should carry some sort of certification to be classified as such 👍

  • @markloubser2433
    @markloubser2433 Рік тому

    Thats a pretty daft price. Its only copper and tin...............

  • @BoleDaPole
    @BoleDaPole Рік тому

    Definitely not a advisement 🤣

  • @TheSanjay1234567890
    @TheSanjay1234567890 Рік тому +1

    666?? Wtf lol😅

  • @chickenporkadob0
    @chickenporkadob0 Рік тому +2

    looks sexy.
    I don't like the brand name. it screams a low grade Chinese watch.

  • @adolf-8834
    @adolf-8834 Рік тому

    Nope.

  • @awais105794
    @awais105794 Рік тому +1

    Wise is becoming a luxury brand now. Their prices are hiking and yet nobody talks about that.