The saddest part of Jim’s story, is he was only there to pack up his office that day. He had accepted another job offer and 9/11 was supposed to be his last day. The irony in that… His wife, Jill, is in the “voices from the towers” documentary. She had just found out she was pregnant with their 2nd baby.
given that there are over 3000 people in the towers.. 1 would have had thier birthday that day. 1 would have won money in some manner. 1 would have just had a baby (plus or minus 5 days) 1 would have just started work there that day 1 would have stopped working that day 1 would have had a early day off. 1 was working overtime 1 took a day off, but had to go back to pick up his wallet. 1 entered the building because he thought it was amazing.... 3000 didnt know this even was going to happen
What angers me about the interview was how the news anchors just hung up on him to report airport closings. You had a golden opportunity to document history, possibly get an award as well as a voice to the people trapped inside.
Large, big corporate main stream media has always sucked and been enemy of the people. Just the way they report so-called Indiscriminate mass shootings tells you everything you need to know about them. The FBI told him in the 80s to please stop sensationally reporting teen suicide, because they were going through the roof, they actually complied, and to this day they don’t really do it unless it’s a totally Public facing figure, but even then they don’t get into details. Guess what? Suicides went way down. They understand the copycat effect. It’s one of the first things they learn in journalism, although to be fair these days that may just be Marxism. Regardless, they learn about the copycat affect at some point, and they understand the power that they hold in creating narratives and causing reaction. When you look at how they reported this nonexistent “ Indiscriminate mass shootings” that had essentially never happened before they reported on columbine, and then every single one after that, reading manifesto’s etal. So they created this whole phenomenon, and if you research it even just a little bit, you’ll see all these Indiscriminate mass shooting perpetrators have all extensively reaserched each other. Anyway, the easiest way to know how they feel about this and whether it’s on purpose and whether they are the enemy of the people, is to ask yourself, do they get happy or sad when one of these happens?
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My husband was on the 97th floor in tower 2. He was in the stairwell around the 70th floor when the second plane struck. He said the entire building rocked and those who took the south stairwell made it out and those in the other stairwell were killed by the airplane impact. He described a strange calm amongst the people who methodically kept walking until they escaped the carnage.
@@keyshawnscott12 He descended 15 minutes after he looked out at the north tower in flames and papers blowing everywhere. He was 5 blocks away when the tower collapsed. Could be over an hour. That's a lot stairs in a narrow stairwell, the width of 2 people. Still seems surreal.
@AM-mw2wu Thank you for your kind words. My husband worked for Franklin Templeton IT and had to go to NJ, two days after to do disaster recovery on their data. We soon moved from Long Island to FL so he could work in their headquarters. He didn't have time to do any interviews. We both struggled with ptsd for years and didn't want to talk about it. He lost many coworkers and friends. Still can't believe this country went through that. We loved seeing all the American flags hung out for several years after 9-11...it gave a lot of us strength to live our lives.
You are correct..most people there were white collar workers..the walls were sheet rock..it would been possible for some to escape if had this knowledge and something to smash their way out
He called the news to make his position where he is as public as possible. 911 lines were already out of service because of the call flood. Only a tape was heard by many people calling telling them all lines are busy.
There is a call from a guy trapped damn near at the top that was on the line when the building collapsed. You can start to hear him screaming, "oh my god, oh my god!" Right before the line cuts when everything is collapsing.
@Jsp4609 ya, that's the man. I would end up going to war over this, and have seen and heard some truly awful things, but that call still left an impression
I blame a Cracked article for exposing a young and impressionable me to that recording. It was an article of "most harrowing sound recordings" or some shit, it included that hoax of the 'lost cosmonaut' and then that - the preceeding articles totally failed to prepare me for the Cosgrove clip. It messed me up, because due to the audio fidelity of that copy so much of it sounds unintelligible, so you're straining to listen and then the end happens and you go from struggling to understand what's going on to knowing EXACTLY what happened and it fucked me up for a bit. Then years later I heard it again in the (now cut) opening montage in Zero Dark Thirty and it pissed me off because even then I knew what they were trying to do by including it in that movie and I felt it shouldn't have been used to manipulate people.
I wish the news anchors had asked him who was the other person he was with. I’m sure it would have meant a lot to the family of that person. But we will never know.
uhhh... maybe play the interview! anybody can talk about what others say. I wonder if being on the south side of the north tower helped with the windows being blown out... all the pressure of a jet slamming into the Northside going south... and the plane was going "down hill" momentum and inertia and gravity would imply a downward impetus!
People say it's because then he can't monetize the video - or that youtube will censor it but I think that's somewhat of an excuse. Maybe bro SHOULDN'T have these videos monetized to begin with. Not like the algorithms favoring him anyway, at least the he'd have more lattitude with the content.
The irony of it was that the drywall was easier to get through than a blocked fire door. I read that Frank DeMartini and others smashed through walls to get past blocked fire doors and free people..
There was a group of survivors I think in the floor 80's North Tower, who upon the plane impact, said their floor split open. They saw fire came through the core area, presumably through the elevators. The core was now dark, but settled into a glow of flames. At first they stayed put, but became frightened once the fire started growing and advancing their way. They evacuated and i assume the fire spread and consumed their office, even though from the exterior, the floor looked fine.
He was really only 7 floors below the impact, while that may seem like it would be reasonable to escape and most did, you also have to consider that is really only 70 feet from a fully fueled plane crash, imagine if a plane crashed that far away from you, sure he has the shielding of 7 floors but all it takes is door frames to get bent from the impact and force to make it hard to locate a viable exit.
Have you seen the documentary with his wife on? She gives more details. He was with two or three others. When he first called her he left a message as he was very panicked. She then called him back and he was much more calm. He told her that he could see people jumping from the towers and that made him realise he wasn’t going to get alive. Eventually, he told of all the smoke, told her to take care of herself and their daughter. That’s roughly when his call to her ended and he’d said his goodbyes. His wife said he needed to do that because he knew he wouldn’t survive.
Kevin Cosgrove 105th floor of the south tower. During his phone call the tower actually collapses so you can hear it collapsing and him screaming. UA-cam 9/11 Phone Call from the Towers. Also, UA-cam his name independently and almost the entire phone call can be heard including more background noise
They definitely tried. There was one fire fighter who made it to the 77th floor of the south tower. I believe his name was Oriol Palmer. He was a great man and a great hero who died trying to save people
@@bobb.9563 a concerned viewer wants to tell a content creator about something he might want to fix and you go for an insult. You’re worse than any ‘’grammar police’’.
In the NIST report you’ve cited on here in the past, there are graphics in that report that show the reported smoke, fires, electrical failures or structural damage on almost every floor. I remember noticing I believe it was the south tower that had fires on a few random floors, some being scores of floors below the impact zone. I believe it was NIST, the report that shows sliced, floor by floor drawings of where the planes impacted.
Hi Ken, another great video (as always). I just wanted to let you know you wrote the word "tapped" instead of "trapped" in your thumbnail intro. No big deal to me, but I thought you might want to know. Take care - Gary from NY
A few people from the security command center in the North Tower almost didn't get out themselves. This was on the 22nd floor where the door to freedom was jammed. Some firefighters rescued them from the room about 15 or so minutes before the North Tower collapsed. So they barely escaped with their lives despite being more than 70 floors below the crash site.
People have tried to tell this guy, but he refuses to put any more effort into his content. Everything he pulls from can be found on the "9/11 Archive" subreddit, the NIST report (which can be found in full for free online) and the official 9/11 Comission Report (likewise in full for free), he likely also pulls from Wikipedia. He doesn't have some special archive he pulls from - it's all easily available so even if he refuses to source like an adult, you know he's only going to pull from the same few places.
Core of the building = inside the building. As in blown apart internally so things like floors, ceilings, and basic structure were unrecognizable. And a blown out window doesn’t necessarily mean blown outward. Obviously impact windows would be broken in a direction opposite impact side, and explosion windows would be blown outward from explosion source.
I’ve always wondered why Jim couldn’t get out as he was below the impact zone. I believe he didn’t realize he may have used something to break through the sheet rock and get to the other side. However who knows what it looked like in there and how everything happened so fast. I heard his call on one of the channels and remember his dear wife talking about how she spoke to him. Just a horrible tragedy. Rest in peace Jim and sending love always to the Gartenberg family 🙏🏽❤️
Multiple people called into the news stations that were trapped. John Deligiorno was one of them. I was home that day here in NYC watching WABC 7. Heartbreaking he later died in the collapse.
@@petercoleslanguages Roger. He was in a news chopper covering 9/11. Idk if op is talking about somebody with a VERY similar name or is just mistaken.
@@petercoleslanguages Roger. He was in a news chopper covering 9/11. Idk if op is talking about somebody with a VERY similar name or is just mistaken.
Not sure if you’ve seen this before, but these folks were on the 82nd floor in I guess the north tower. They got down to the lobby and the south tower collapsed and they were caught up on the debris/plume. They too were talking briefly about seeing a shadow (of the plane) and debris on their floor from the strike above. Interview starts around 13:45… sorry to copy and paste, I know it’s a pain doing so in a comment. I’m sure this has been posted elsewhere on YT before, but this particular link was uploaded 20 hours ago to the channel I’m linking. ua-cam.com/video/J49VRsZtEbA/v-deo.htmlsi=JQfjn_gPxxWvXP0g
Most people in the tower, after 1st plane hit, initially didn't even know it was a plane that caused the explosion. My point is, asking him if he's above or below (the impact), he probably didn't understand that question right away
If I worked in a high rise I would have a parachute under my desk after this. Unless there is a better idea. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected that day and beyond. ✌️✝️
The idea that worked for the most people was to know where all the exits are and where they lead, and to have practised fire drills regularly. And to have surprise drills that were timed. And to be in no doubt that exiting is the preferred option even when it’s the building next door and nobody is sure if it’s an accident. This is how Rick Rescorla saved almost three thousand Morgan Stanley / Dean Witters people in the towers and another thousand from Dean Witters (which had been bought by Morgan Stanley) in WTC five.
@@eh1702 That is the best plan, no doubt. I'm just saying if you are stuck with no way to exit then what do you do. I know what some did and it is awful but better than the alternative. ✌️✝️
@@keithk1559 Really and truly, preparation. Look at what Japan faces every few years - tsunamis, volcanoes, typhoons: they have plans and drills and they practise them. Emergencies are almost always confusing, and there is often a debate about whether there even is an emergency. People don’t want to overreact or seem panicky. Often folks get into a state of denial and decide to act as if everything is normal or will soon return to normal even though it is gradually getting worse. One of the most difficult things is that human tendency to want to have more information before making a decision. (Like: this is serious! Or - this affects us!) But “wait and see” often is, is deciding to do nothing at all. Preparation and rehearsal take away a lot of those complications. They get people to start taking action promptly, in a calm way, without fear of losing face. Going through familiar motions when things first start getting weird - it also helps you to keep thinking - adapting or considering alternatives to specifics like a blocked stairway.
I recommend you do a video on the South Tower command center. We really only know about the North Tower post with the Naudet lobby video with Chief Pfeifer. Who commanded the South's and were any of the firefighters able to make it to a survivable area in the 10 sec timeframe? Did any of them talk about the building becoming unsafe? From some of the last survivors out the South, said the building was shaking/swaying and walls were crumbling in the lower level stairwell. There's a video on YT taken by one person in the South Tower lobby in queue waiting to leave after the North Tower was hit but just before the South Tower was hit. You can hear what sounds like the comms making a strange tone..the same comms used to announce the tower being safe and to go back up!
Actually based on the debris and car fires outside, I think the South Tower was already hit: ua-cam.com/video/icOXy_bBd5Q/v-deo.htmlsi=UjV4lw_JmHSPLb01
*trapped, in the title... only thing wrong with your vid. You deserve awards or something for showing how UA-cam should be... don't need annoying music behind the vid... don't need to see your face just to see a face... don't need FX and graphics flying by faster than I can see... talking natural... no corny misleading thumbnail... love it all. 👏
One thing about the north tower after the south fell. More people seemed to jump. So they knew alright and i guess made the brave choices they made up there.
I often wondered about what Mr Gartenberg did after making the phone call. it seems like he would’ve made another phone call to someone in his family in the final 35 min, he must of got out and died in the collapse
It amazes me the location where she was waving from....literally right in the heart of the impact zone where the plane had entered the building.....rip 🙏🏻
I always wonder about the two men who were spotted pretty close to her. The one who was 5 beams to her left over and a story or two up that was sitting on a damaged beam in the impact area. And then the guy to her right and a few stories over that was still able to walk around on the floors, but the damage was still very intense. He had taken his shirt off and looked like he had probably been burned. They don't get as much attention but are equally eerie. Especially because, unlike her, they disappear from the images/videos before the collapse. Meaning they fell or jumped.
1 would have had thier birthday that day. 1 would have won money in some manner. 1 would have just had a baby (plus or minus 5 days) 1 would have just started work there that day 1 would have stopped working that day 1 would have had a early day off. 1 was working overtime 1 took a day off, but had to go back to pick up his wallet.
Why would there be any debris at all 7 floors below the lower wingtip? If a there is a car wreck 7 cars behind you why would that have any affect? If a person bowls a strike 7 lanes away why would that knock balls down in your lane?
Hey - are you deleting comments? I’m trying to reply to someone I’m having a disagreement with, and every time I post a reply to her, the comment disappears 1 minute later.
Keep this videos coming... I always wondered about what happened with the Jim, that news report video of when he called from the tower 1... it sort of falsely promised families/loved ones about that the catastrophic danger he didn't know he was in.
this was an image from the 60 something floor for a documentary on a woman who worked for the port authority on like the 64th floor and for expierence before and after 9/11
It was horrible when one went down the other went pretty much at the same time. They also don’t show all the people that were breaking and jumping out the window above the crash. Hundreds of people jumped rather than burned. I hope to never see anything like that ever again.
A lot of doors were jammed because of the impact of the plane and a lot of people did not Realize that the walls were sheet rock and a lot of people probably could have escaped if they had broken through the sheet rock walls.
I wouldn’t hold your breath on him fixing it lol. That video from last week where he used the wrong title and thumbnail still hasn’t been updated. Chad af.
@@lucathegamer9113 video from last week about the lego World Trade Center (4,440 pieces) is about something totally different. He must have had a couple videos queued up and gave that video an incorrect title and thumbnail.
I tried my best to find the interview on UA-cam and it’s not there. According to what I found Jim Gartenberg left a frantic call for his wife I don’t think that was the guys name who did the interview. I remember hearing it somewhere and he was quite calm.
@@bigvalexander8917 well, that's not surprising at all. There are several series of calls that took place, that are either recorder, or talked about by those who were called. It makes sense that he wasn't panicking if everything was relatively ok and his office wasn't filled with smoke. Once he learned of South Tower's collapse, it's not hard to imagine the change in him...
If it happened now, 500 people would live stream it on TikTok and Facebook, rather than try to escape, since they would wanna become famous. This would have caused a much higher fatality toll.
I don't know about you, but when I was young, I definitely wouldn't have guessed I might die. I was the kind of young woman who would've been positively been exhilarated. I would've been been willing to give a minute by minute description of everything I was experiencing. And I'd assume that I'd be a celebrity, actually....!!!!!!
There are a couple of other calls (to 911 not news) especially by Melissa Doi and Kevin Michael Cosgrove, Cosgrove worked with AON in the 105th floor of the South Tower, the call ends with his screams as the tower collapses. This recording was used during Zacarias Moussaoui’s criminal trial
I think the PA system that was telling everyone to not panic and stay in their offices is what lead him to believe that everything was under control. You will find that in many disasters, the perceived importance of preventing panic (the natural response to a life threatening situation evolved to keep us alive) in itself kills many more people than it saves.
Even at the 80th floor he would still be 1200ish foot in the sky. The explosion from above had to had be huge to had blown the core on his floors out along with all the windows on the floor from his view at least ,these stories are extremely interesting to me as time continues more and more come out to the public. We couldn’t imagine what things looked like for these ppl on that tragic day in our wildest imaginations sadly.
At the end you kept saying he was in the South tower.. but he was in the North tower. North tower was hit first but fell last.. I know it doesn't make sense? but I knew what you meant.
There was a video from a university maybe Ohio where they had an computer image of the plane hitting the north tower and splintering apart hitting the outer steel
The saddest part of Jim’s story, is he was only there to pack up his office that day. He had accepted another job offer and 9/11 was supposed to be his last day. The irony in that…
His wife, Jill, is in the “voices from the towers” documentary. She had just found out she was pregnant with their 2nd baby.
How awful 😢❤
Wow. Talk about terrible timing. So unlucky. RIP Jim
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Rip man damn life is scary
given that there are over 3000 people in the towers..
1 would have had thier birthday that day.
1 would have won money in some manner.
1 would have just had a baby (plus or minus 5 days)
1 would have just started work there that day
1 would have stopped working that day
1 would have had a early day off.
1 was working overtime
1 took a day off, but had to go back to pick up his wallet.
1 entered the building because he thought it was amazing....
3000 didnt know this even was going to happen
What angers me about the interview was how the news anchors just hung up on him to report airport closings.
You had a golden opportunity to document history, possibly get an award as well as a voice to the people trapped inside.
He couldn't talk to anyone else apart from the co-worker he was trapped with. Both of them were trapped by falling masonry.
Large, big corporate main stream media has always sucked and been enemy of the people. Just the way they report so-called Indiscriminate mass shootings tells you everything you need to know about them.
The FBI told him in the 80s to please stop sensationally reporting teen suicide, because they were going through the roof, they actually complied, and to this day they don’t really do it unless it’s a totally Public facing figure, but even then they don’t get into details. Guess what? Suicides went way down. They understand the copycat effect. It’s one of the first things they learn in journalism, although to be fair these days that may just be Marxism.
Regardless, they learn about the copycat affect at some point, and they understand the power that they hold in creating narratives and causing reaction. When you look at how they reported this nonexistent “ Indiscriminate mass shootings” that had essentially never happened before they reported on columbine, and then every single one after that, reading manifesto’s etal.
So they created this whole phenomenon, and if you research it even just a little bit, you’ll see all these Indiscriminate mass shooting perpetrators have all extensively reaserched each other. Anyway, the easiest way to know how they feel about this and whether it’s on purpose and whether they are the enemy of the people, is to ask yourself, do they get happy or sad when one of these happens?
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You're expecting the anchors to be practically clairvoyant. Hindsight is 20/20.
@@Ryan-mq2miwhat happened?
My husband was on the 97th floor in tower 2. He was in the stairwell around the 70th floor when the second plane struck. He said the entire building rocked and those who took the south stairwell made it out and those in the other stairwell were killed by the airplane impact.
He described a strange calm amongst the people who methodically kept walking until they escaped the carnage.
How long did it take him to escape the building
@@keyshawnscott12 He descended 15 minutes after he looked out at the north tower in flames and papers blowing everywhere. He was 5 blocks away when the tower collapsed. Could be over an hour. That's a lot stairs in a narrow stairwell, the width of 2 people. Still seems surreal.
@@specialk2514 false story
@@LincolnLoud-ht1vbhow would you know?
@AM-mw2wu Thank you for your kind words. My husband worked for Franklin Templeton IT and had to go to NJ, two days after to do disaster recovery on their data. We soon moved from Long Island to FL so he could work in their headquarters. He didn't have time to do any interviews. We both struggled with ptsd for years and didn't want to talk about it. He lost many coworkers and friends. Still can't believe this country went through that. We loved seeing all the American flags hung out for several years after 9-11...it gave a lot of us strength to live our lives.
This is a lesson to everyone to try to find a way out. Do not sit and wait for rescue. Get out immediately.
You are correct..most people there were white collar workers..the walls were sheet rock..it would been possible for some to escape if had this knowledge and something to smash their way out
Bro tapped the twin towers 😳
Imagine having as many bought followers as this guy and not knowing how to spell "trapped"
@@fbidenflagguy Accidents happen, relax.
@@fbidenflagguy what
They really had a person on the scene
what tf does this mean
Mr.Gartenberg had some balls. I wouldn’t be concerned about calling the news. It appears that he was trying to calm everyone. Poor man.
He called the news to make his position where he is as public as possible. 911 lines were already out of service because of the call flood. Only a tape was heard by many people calling telling them all lines are busy.
Mohammed Atta had the biggest balls
The staircase photos has this eerie vibe.
There is a call from a guy trapped damn near at the top that was on the line when the building collapsed. You can start to hear him screaming, "oh my god, oh my god!" Right before the line cuts when everything is collapsing.
His name was Kevin Cosgrove. The call is horrific to listen to.
The Oh god oh- still gets me
@Jsp4609 ya, that's the man. I would end up going to war over this, and have seen and heard some truly awful things, but that call still left an impression
Yes, Kevin Cosgrove. Melissa Doi was also on the phone when the South Tower collapsed.
I blame a Cracked article for exposing a young and impressionable me to that recording. It was an article of "most harrowing sound recordings" or some shit, it included that hoax of the 'lost cosmonaut' and then that - the preceeding articles totally failed to prepare me for the Cosgrove clip. It messed me up, because due to the audio fidelity of that copy so much of it sounds unintelligible, so you're straining to listen and then the end happens and you go from struggling to understand what's going on to knowing EXACTLY what happened and it fucked me up for a bit.
Then years later I heard it again in the (now cut) opening montage in Zero Dark Thirty and it pissed me off because even then I knew what they were trying to do by including it in that movie and I felt it shouldn't have been used to manipulate people.
Kevin Cosgrove's phone call is devastating, he was trapped and on the phone with 911 when the building fell 😢
Which building?
@@KrystyneY South tower.
"105th Floor. We're overlooking the financial center, three of us here, two broken windows *tower starts collapsing* OH GOD, OH--"
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I wish the news anchors had asked him who was the other person he was with. I’m sure it would have meant a lot to the family of that person. But we will never know.
uhhh... maybe play the interview! anybody can talk about what others say.
I wonder if being on the south side of the north tower helped with the windows being blown out... all the pressure of a jet slamming into the Northside going south... and the plane was going "down hill" momentum and inertia and gravity would imply a downward impetus!
People say it's because then he can't monetize the video - or that youtube will censor it but I think that's somewhat of an excuse. Maybe bro SHOULDN'T have these videos monetized to begin with. Not like the algorithms favoring him anyway, at least the he'd have more lattitude with the content.
Demonetisation is not the problem...if they claim copyrights they will remove the video at all
The irony of it was that the drywall was easier to get through than a blocked fire door. I read that Frank DeMartini and others smashed through walls to get past blocked fire doors and free people..
They also had axes 🪓
There was a group of survivors I think in the floor 80's North Tower, who upon the plane impact, said their floor split open. They saw fire came through the core area, presumably through the elevators. The core was now dark, but settled into a glow of flames. At first they stayed put, but became frightened once the fire started growing and advancing their way. They evacuated and i assume the fire spread and consumed their office, even though from the exterior, the floor looked fine.
In one or two videos that are filmed from high enough, early on, you can see fire burning a couple of storeys high, deep inside the building.
How did they get away from the fire?
He was really only 7 floors below the impact, while that may seem like it would be reasonable to escape and most did, you also have to consider that is really only 70 feet from a fully fueled plane crash, imagine if a plane crashed that far away from you, sure he has the shielding of 7 floors but all it takes is door frames to get bent from the impact and force to make it hard to locate a viable exit.
Have you seen the documentary with his wife on? She gives more details. He was with two or three others. When he first called her he left a message as he was very panicked. She then called him back and he was much more calm. He told her that he could see people jumping from the towers and that made him realise he wasn’t going to get alive. Eventually, he told of all the smoke, told her to take care of herself and their daughter. That’s roughly when his call to her ended and he’d said his goodbyes. His wife said he needed to do that because he knew he wouldn’t survive.
tapped in the twin towers that is a typo
Voices from the towers is a
good documentary as well
Kevin Cosgrove 105th floor of the south tower. During his phone call the tower actually collapses so you can hear it collapsing and him screaming. UA-cam 9/11 Phone Call from the Towers. Also, UA-cam his name independently and almost the entire phone call can be heard including more background noise
If you’re not from that era you need to know, no one is coming to save you. Always be ready to save yourself and your friends.
They definitely tried. There was one fire fighter who made it to the 77th floor of the south tower. I believe his name was Oriol Palmer. He was a great man and a great hero who died trying to save people
You put “tapped” instead of trapped.
Grammer Police have arrived !
Shut up dude you don't tell him what to do
@@lucathegamer9113i will absolutely tell him what to do, who do you think you are to tell me what to do?
@@1andOnlyKB you don't tell people what to do are you crazy?
@@bobb.9563 a concerned viewer wants to tell a content creator about something he might want to fix and you go for an insult. You’re worse than any ‘’grammar police’’.
In the NIST report you’ve cited on here in the past, there are graphics in that report that show the reported smoke, fires, electrical failures or structural damage on almost every floor. I remember noticing I believe it was the south tower that had fires on a few random floors, some being scores of floors below the impact zone. I believe it was NIST, the report that shows sliced, floor by floor drawings of where the planes impacted.
Was always curious about that. Do you know where I can find a full copy of the earlier NTSB report (as opposed to the later NIST)?
@@fuzzydunlop7928 I apologize. I believe I misspoke. You are correct, it’s the NIST report I believe.
@@fuzzydunlop7928 NIST I believe, yes.
You can see burning debris from each of the impacts impacting the other tower.
7 minutes in: you can find it on UA-cam….. Lol dude that’s the point of clicking on your video not someone elses
Bro never delivers the goods. Can't link it in a comment but it's in instagram via google video search.
Hi Ken, another great video (as always). I just wanted to let you know you wrote the word "tapped" instead of "trapped" in your thumbnail intro. No big deal to me, but I thought you might want to know. Take care - Gary from NY
i really love these videos!
maybe he was seeing the result of the stress from the flexing of the overall structure? creating problems below.
Can't link it because YT doesn't like random hyperlinks, but "Jim Gartenberg 9/11 phone call" will get you there.
A few people from the security command center in the North Tower almost didn't get out themselves. This was on the 22nd floor where the door to freedom was jammed. Some firefighters rescued them from the room about 15 or so minutes before the North Tower collapsed. So they barely escaped with their lives despite being more than 70 floors below the crash site.
@Depressed Ginger, you made an error in the video title , missed the R in the word Trapped.
Link the resources you speak about please my man. It's mega frustrating.
People have tried to tell this guy, but he refuses to put any more effort into his content. Everything he pulls from can be found on the "9/11 Archive" subreddit, the NIST report (which can be found in full for free online) and the official 9/11 Comission Report (likewise in full for free), he likely also pulls from Wikipedia. He doesn't have some special archive he pulls from - it's all easily available so even if he refuses to source like an adult, you know he's only going to pull from the same few places.
Core of the building = inside the building. As in blown apart internally so things like floors, ceilings, and basic structure were unrecognizable. And a blown out window doesn’t necessarily mean blown outward. Obviously impact windows would be broken in a direction opposite impact side, and explosion windows would be blown outward from explosion source.
Which would be outside on his side of the building if he was on the southern side of the North Tower
Jim Gartenberg was so calm and composed while all hell was breaking loose. There is a video on you tube Calls From The Tower and Jim's wife is on it
I’ve always wondered why Jim couldn’t get out as he was below the impact zone. I believe he didn’t realize he may have used something to break through the sheet rock and get to the other side. However who knows what it looked like in there and how everything happened so fast. I heard his call on one of the channels and remember his dear wife talking about how she spoke to him. Just a horrible tragedy. Rest in peace Jim and sending love always to the Gartenberg family 🙏🏽❤️
Due to the way the buildings twisted when the planes hit, a lot of people were having issues getting certain fire doors to open
Multiple people called into the news stations that were trapped. John Deligiorno was one of them. I was home that day here in NYC watching WABC 7. Heartbreaking he later died in the collapse.
John Del giorno is still alive and working for ABC
@@petercoleslanguages Roger. He was in a news chopper covering 9/11. Idk if op is talking about somebody with a VERY similar name or is just mistaken.
@@petercoleslanguages Roger. He was in a news chopper covering 9/11. Idk if op is talking about somebody with a VERY similar name or is just mistaken.
Rip Jim and everyone who died on that day
Not sure if you’ve seen this before, but these folks were on the 82nd floor in I guess the north tower. They got down to the lobby and the south tower collapsed and they were caught up on the debris/plume. They too were talking briefly about seeing a shadow (of the plane) and debris on their floor from the strike above.
Interview starts around 13:45… sorry to copy and paste, I know it’s a pain doing so in a comment. I’m sure this has been posted elsewhere on YT before, but this particular link was uploaded 20 hours ago to the channel I’m linking.
ua-cam.com/video/J49VRsZtEbA/v-deo.htmlsi=JQfjn_gPxxWvXP0g
Most people in the tower, after 1st plane hit, initially didn't even know it was a plane that caused the explosion. My point is, asking him if he's above or below (the impact), he probably didn't understand that question right away
If I worked in a high rise I would have a parachute under my desk after this. Unless there is a better idea. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected that day and beyond.
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The idea that worked for the most people was to know where all the exits are and where they lead, and to have practised fire drills regularly. And to have surprise drills that were timed. And to be in no doubt that exiting is the preferred option even when it’s the building next door and nobody is sure if it’s an accident.
This is how Rick Rescorla saved almost three thousand Morgan Stanley / Dean Witters people in the towers and another thousand from Dean Witters (which had been bought by Morgan Stanley) in WTC five.
@@eh1702 That is the best plan, no doubt. I'm just saying if you are stuck with no way to exit then what do you do. I know what some did and it is awful but better than the alternative.
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@@keithk1559 Really and truly, preparation. Look at what Japan faces every few years - tsunamis, volcanoes, typhoons: they have plans and drills and they practise them.
Emergencies are almost always confusing, and there is often a debate about whether there even is an emergency. People don’t want to overreact or seem panicky. Often folks get into a state of denial and decide to act as if everything is normal or will soon return to normal even though it is gradually getting worse.
One of the most difficult things is that human tendency to want to have more information before making a decision. (Like: this is serious! Or - this affects us!) But “wait and see” often is, is deciding to do nothing at all.
Preparation and rehearsal take away a lot of those complications. They get people to start taking action promptly, in a calm way, without fear of losing face. Going through familiar motions when things first start getting weird - it also helps you to keep thinking - adapting or considering alternatives to specifics like a blocked stairway.
I recommend you do a video on the South Tower command center. We really only know about the North Tower post with the Naudet lobby video with Chief Pfeifer. Who commanded the South's and were any of the firefighters able to make it to a survivable area in the 10 sec timeframe? Did any of them talk about the building becoming unsafe? From some of the last survivors out the South, said the building was shaking/swaying and walls were crumbling in the lower level stairwell. There's a video on YT taken by one person in the South Tower lobby in queue waiting to leave after the North Tower was hit but just before the South Tower was hit. You can hear what sounds like the comms making a strange tone..the same comms used to announce the tower being safe and to go back up!
Actually based on the debris and car fires outside, I think the South Tower was already hit:
ua-cam.com/video/icOXy_bBd5Q/v-deo.htmlsi=UjV4lw_JmHSPLb01
Hey Depressed Ginger where did you find the cross section of the complex at night??
"tapped in"
What the towers sellin that stuff now?
Damn. I remember checking out that stairwell when dining in Windows.
Where is the auto with this new interview?!
where tf is the audio. where can we find it?
Right?
Can't link it because yt hates random hyperlinks but googling "Jim Gartenberg 9/11 phone call" will get you there.
grammar police are out today
God why am I so obsessed with this?
Here before the title gets fixed
What's with the random pictures that have nothing to do with what you're talking about?
I feel like 10 floors below impact would have been just as trashed as it was closer to the explosion and was fed fuel that poured down
*trapped, in the title... only thing wrong with your vid. You deserve awards or something for showing how UA-cam should be... don't need annoying music behind the vid... don't need to see your face just to see a face... don't need FX and graphics flying by faster than I can see... talking natural... no corny misleading thumbnail... love it all. 👏
Could you make a video about paschelle puzelli
Jim was not cut off. The news producers there at WABC-TV kept him on the line and continued to talk with him, probably for several more minutes.
Ok so where’s the interview??
What was he tapping in the WTC? Was he tapping a co-worker? 😂
Omg, im pretty sure there was alot of dirty stuff going on in the towers before 911 or any office setting..🤪
@@theallseeingkats6321 😆
Just heard that recording. It’s amazing
how calm he sounds on the phone.
I watched that segment it is on UA-cam. Can you do one on Kevin Cosgrove, who was on the phone with dispatch as tower 2 was collapsing?
Is there an audio recording of this phone call anywhere?
Could at least get the title right. Shows how much actual research went into the vid
One thing about the north tower after the south fell. More people seemed to jump. So they knew alright and i guess made the brave choices they made up there.
I often wondered about what Mr Gartenberg did after making the phone call. it seems like he would’ve made another phone call to someone in his family in the final 35 min, he must of got out and died in the collapse
He talked to his wife on the phone
That was prior to the south tower getting hit. His wife has done interviews
You should do a video about "the waving woman"
that was edna cintron
@tones2135 It's here on YT. The Waving Woman: The story of Edna Cintron
Worth pointing out there is literally no way to confirm the identity of the waving woman.
It amazes me the location where she was waving from....literally right in the heart of the impact zone where the plane had entered the building.....rip 🙏🏻
I always wonder about the two men who were spotted pretty close to her. The one who was 5 beams to her left over and a story or two up that was sitting on a damaged beam in the impact area. And then the guy to her right and a few stories over that was still able to walk around on the floors, but the damage was still very intense. He had taken his shirt off and looked like he had probably been burned.
They don't get as much attention but are equally eerie. Especially because, unlike her, they disappear from the images/videos before the collapse. Meaning they fell or jumped.
1 would have had thier birthday that day.
1 would have won money in some manner.
1 would have just had a baby (plus or minus 5 days)
1 would have just started work there that day
1 would have stopped working that day
1 would have had a early day off.
1 was working overtime
1 took a day off, but had to go back to pick up his wallet.
"Tapped" or "trapped" . . . OP might want to run a quick grammar check in future postings. Just sayin' . . .
Since 9/11 clear summer days don't feel beautiful anymore. They kinda feel weird and almost unsettling.
you didn't even play the phone call
Tapped?
Why would there be any debris at all 7 floors below the lower wingtip? If a there is a car wreck 7 cars behind you why would that have any affect? If a person bowls a strike 7 lanes away why would that knock balls down in your lane?
You forgot about gravity?? You must be tarded
Floors collapsed
Funny how they found the haji passports right away. Even funnier that the largest transfer of wealth occurred on 9/10.
Hey - are you deleting comments? I’m trying to reply to someone I’m having a disagreement with, and every time I post a reply to her, the comment disappears 1 minute later.
So no actual audio from the interview?
If you want to learn more about Jim, Gartenberg and others, check out phone calls from the towers. It’s a great documentary.
listening from spain...almost near where tania head was born
Keep this videos coming... I always wondered about what happened with the Jim, that news report video of when he called from the tower 1... it sort of falsely promised families/loved ones about that the catastrophic danger he didn't know he was in.
Ik it minor error but you have to start doing Spell check Gang lol I had to read title 2,3 times. Great content tho
Where's the video to the interview
4:07 what kind of image is that?
It looks ridiculous
@@LightningGoldStudios agreed
this was an image from the 60 something floor for a documentary on a woman who worked for the port authority on like the 64th floor and for expierence before and after 9/11
Tapped? Na he was locked in frfr
Just forget it
Concerted effort, not conceded effort, unless they are arrogant assholes pushing people around
It was horrible when one went down the other went pretty much at the same time. They also don’t show all the people that were breaking and jumping out the window above the crash. Hundreds of people jumped rather than burned. I hope to never see anything like that ever again.
They weren't pretty much at the same time, they were half an hour apart.
Lmao tapped
A lot of doors were jammed because of the impact of the plane and a lot of people did not Realize that the walls were sheet rock and a lot of people probably could have escaped if they had broken through the sheet rock walls.
Reminds me to always get out, don’t hang around to rubber neck.
It’s the man WHO called. He was a living being, not a bot.
ah yes "tapped" in the twin towers.
Just leave it there
I wouldn’t hold your breath on him fixing it lol. That video from last week where he used the wrong title and thumbnail still hasn’t been updated. Chad af.
@@spencer9488 what?
@@lucathegamer9113 video from last week about the lego World Trade Center (4,440 pieces) is about something totally different. He must have had a couple videos queued up and gave that video an incorrect title and thumbnail.
@@spencer9488 oh wow
This dude still believes a plane entered an iron structure . Good lord
4:50 where are you getting those pictures?
I'm guessing it's some kind of AI-generated image.
@@GZ9090 are you sure?
I tried my best to find the interview on UA-cam and it’s not there. According to what I found Jim Gartenberg left a frantic call for his wife I don’t think that was the guys name who did the interview.
I remember hearing it somewhere and he was quite calm.
It is him. You can hear his 'interview' in "Voices from the Towers" and a few other documentaries.
@@alexanderkaplan you’re right I f’d up. Found it after.. so he has a regular call to the news then a panicked call to his wife. What a nightmare
@@bigvalexander8917 well, that's not surprising at all. There are several series of calls that took place, that are either recorder, or talked about by those who were called. It makes sense that he wasn't panicking if everything was relatively ok and his office wasn't filled with smoke. Once he learned of South Tower's collapse, it's not hard to imagine the change in him...
im sorry to tell you spelled "trapped" wrong in the title
Trapped* it’s trapped Patrick
If it happened now, 500 people would live stream it on TikTok and Facebook, rather than try to escape, since they would wanna become famous. This would have caused a much higher fatality toll.
While tapped in the tower's???
I don't know about you, but when I was young, I definitely wouldn't have guessed I might die. I was the kind of young woman who would've been positively been exhilarated. I would've been been willing to give a minute by minute description of everything I was experiencing. And I'd assume that I'd be a celebrity, actually....!!!!!!
Trapped not tapped
There are a couple of other calls (to 911 not news) especially by Melissa Doi and Kevin Michael Cosgrove, Cosgrove worked with AON in the 105th floor of the South Tower, the call ends with his screams as the tower collapses. This recording was used during Zacarias Moussaoui’s criminal trial
I think the PA system that was telling everyone to not panic and stay in their offices is what lead him to believe that everything was under control. You will find that in many disasters, the perceived importance of preventing panic (the natural response to a life threatening situation evolved to keep us alive) in itself kills many more people than it saves.
Even at the 80th floor he would still be 1200ish foot in the sky. The explosion from above had to had be huge to had blown the core on his floors out along with all the windows on the floor from his view at least ,these stories are extremely interesting to me as time continues more and more come out to the public.
We couldn’t imagine what things looked like for these ppl on that tragic day in our wildest imaginations sadly.
At the end you kept saying he was in the South tower.. but he was in the North tower. North tower was hit first but fell last.. I know it doesn't make sense? but I knew what you meant.
Look into Stanley Praimnath and Brian Clark’s testimonies in the south tower
Amazing men!
There was a video from a university maybe Ohio where they had an computer image of the plane hitting the north tower and splintering apart hitting the outer steel
4:07….damn, is that a real pic?