The Hidden Connections In Teyvat's Ruins | Genshin Impact Mini Theories
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2022
- Over the past two years I've spent a lot of time exploring Genshin Impact's ruins. In this video I reveal some of my discoveries that have lead to mini theories, and other observations.
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Yes. That's right, Hoyoverse has no problem with creating new assets that will never be reused again either, just like Havria's domain they created a hybrid between Liyue ancient civilization with Sal Vindagnyr's civilization with it's own extremely unique architect not found anywhere else within. The name of her domain is also known as Sal Terrae too and the cave leading there goes under in the direction towards Dragonspine where Sal Vindagnyr once stood.
that’s interesting
im sure they'll jsut retrofit that later and then just admit that they had to use the assets they had the time
🤔🤔 interesting very interesting
Sal Terrae is Latin, Sal Vingadyr is Norse
I’m so annoyed you can’t go back into havrias domain
It's downright chilling to think that envoys of Khaenri'ah were the possible reason why Havria was killed. And is even more shocking to think those same envoys were the ones who twisted the history about what actually happened at Salt Terrae, and decided to label Morax as cold-murderer god that wouldn't hesitate to attack a weak god. And according to Zhongli's First Quest, humans killing gods is a form of taboo.
If we take account all those ruins, then is possible that Khaenri'ah must have been way bigger than we think, and even expanding from Tsurumi Island and Apple Archipielago, or least points of references to conquer later. Or could be also possible that Khaenri'ah also send those envoys to mend among different societies and learn their knowledge --- meaning that's how they learned about the existence of Ley Lines, and how to bend Elemental energy.
Perhaps it's why Dainsleif keeps it neutral while contradicting himself too.
@@Zarozian About the the whole not repeating the same mistakes as his predecessors or about the whole not trying to overturn gods part?
@@mariapazgonzalezlesme Both of course. There is no true evil faction in Teyvat. Neither Khaenri'ah or Celestia. There are good and bad from both but the feeling I get from Dainsleif is that he feels betrayed by his own people and hates them seeing how he's so merciless when it comes to his former fellow citizens.
I always believe that the existence of Khaneriah is quite dangerous not just to Celestia but to the world. From Ei’s story quest 2 she said Khaneriah is not a place any Archons can afford to ignore.
What if they introduce time travel , and then we go back in time to get a new map of Teyvat 1000 or 500 years ago
Of course it's not so simple. We were pretty quick to label Khaenri'ah as the good side and Celstia as the bad, which may or may not be true, but it is pretty much confirmed that Khaenri'ah was coexisting with other nations ruled by the seven for pretty long time, until they showed "mortal arrogation" and brought forth the punishment of their "sins" by the gods.
The wrongs here are, Khaenri'ahns as mortals achieved many great rhings without a god, and became over ambitious, and arrogant, so they did the mistake of making an enemy of the divine. That was their "sin". But, not all khaeri'ahns shown "arrogation", yet all of them were punished. And that was celestia's "sin". Or that's what I think for now at least.
Agree
This is the same as what Dain said - verbatim: Khaerinahns were all sinners in Celestias eyes
U mean, you have to be an idiot to make the GODS themselves your enemy
This is true. Not all ancient dead civilizations were godless, they were also systematically corrupted.
The reason Celestia probably condemned the entire nation is so that no memory of said civilization remains and repeats itself. As seen in Sumeru, memories power the irminsul tree, the tree of reality. Maybe heavily blasphemous memories hurt the tree and reality itself too.
Most of the ruins found in the game belong to the ancient pre-archon war global civilization that worshiped the primordial one and it's shades. They were wiped out by "the second who came" and the survivors ended up in mostly underground like in Enkanomiya, the Chasm depths, and some of whom ended up founding Khaenri'ah.
Also in Enkanomiya and The Chasm, the statues for the Seelie's home base are perfectly intact without any damage.... All other Seelie statues are damaged in Teyvat's current game locations. Why JUST these two locations so far is VERY suspicious as they affect the Seelies that are there and this may be tied to the First Crown civilizations that fell into the lowest parts of these locations. With each layer to the Chasm going deeper and deeper. I would not be surprised that the Friist Crown ruins are also at the same geological level as Enkanomiya.
The nail in the Chasm is the last layer just after the Frist Crown ruins and is likely the source of the plague of miasma that attacked the Chasm 500 years about that "Xiao" or the nameless Yaksha with Rex Lapis put a stop to that calamity when Khaenri'ah imploded. This Nail however was dropped it seems before the Archon war, however... It chased out the indigenous people from the area of the Chams and "Caused" the Chasm current shape....
I suspect that the other regions will have their own "Calamity" stories due to the impact of what happened to Khaenri'ah. But Mondstadt and Inazuma had to deal with the worst fallout due to their proximity to the nation of Khaenri'ah. Also the spread of the rouge Ruin Machines from Khaenri'ah started in Mondstadt/Inazuma before they travelled over the whole continent of Tayvat.
Well I think the seelie statue intact on enkanomiya because it's in the abyss, and there's no wind or weather in the abyss that can erode rock.
@@RizkyBambangWiratmoko I would agree with you, but if you look closely at the grass in enkonomiya, you can see that it is more windy there than in teyvat. A likelier reason as to why the seelie statues in enkonmiya and the chasm are not in ruins is because they are underground, and are thus not considered a part of teyvat; protecting them from the calamity that in which seemed to stretch across all of teyvat.
Idk Liyue's fight seemed rather extensive at the time, comparable to both Mondstadt and Inazuma.
The chasms shape is caused by the fall of the sun chariot , not the nail. Which is more perplexing
The four point insignias above the doorways are called Solomon's Knots, it's a symbol that's commonly associated with eternity and often appears over Jewish mausoleums. Mihoyo also uses the Solomon's Knot as a symbol for Dr. Mobius from Honkai Impact 3rd, whose battlesuit is known as Infinite Ouroboros, so from that along with the Chasm's story, we can conclude that the intended use for the symbol on Domains is likely to represent something continuous, like a never ending curse or cycle.
As for lost civilizations, all of the previous games made by Mihoyo took place in the same world, separated by cataclysms and resets, where the populace of the planet was reincarnated into an existence similar to that of the previous world, but having no memory of the life they lived before. This is why characters like Kiana Kaslana, Raiden Mei and Bronya Zaychik, all appear again in the different games, yet some changes take place between the games, that's because they're the reincarnations of the characters who died during the previous game's cataclysm. The old worlds mentioned in these games are actually the previous games themselves, and believe it or not, a Super AI causes the resets after every cataclysm, this is not a theory, it's entirely canon. That's why the last scene in Houkai Gakuen 2 has all of the characters dying, the world getting destroyed, reset, and ends on the final note of: "See you in the next world"; the next world being Honkai Impact 3rd.
It's not directly mentioned in Honkai Impact 3rd though, so a lot of players aren't aware of it, I actually had trouble believing it myself until researching Houkai Gakuen 2, and confirmed it to be the case. Unfortunately, the numerous Wiki's for the Honkai series are not well maintained, so they weren't very helpful.
It's also important to note the existences of Bubble Universes, in the Hoyoverse there are two key factors that must be understood regarding universes and the lore.
First is the Imaginary Tree, which is where universes are born into existence, time flows down each branch, and every branch leads to a different variant of universes, the farther the branches are away from the source, the more unique they become, likewise every leaf and petal represents what is called a Bubble Universe.
Bubble Universes are where the action takes place, and every decision made can lead to a new Bubble Universe forming on the Tree. Like with Cocolia, whose an antagonist in the main story, but appears as an ally while Bronya was visiting a Dead Bubble Universe in the Sea of Quanta.
The second critical place to understand is the Sea of Quanta, which is basically Honkai's abyss, it's where the Bubble Universe go when they die, the process of which is described as being like a leaf or a petal falling from the Tree into the pool of water at the base of the Tree. This should ring a bell with Genshin players, because it's represented on a smaller scale whenever we collect from the Tree at the end of a Domain challenge, and the circle at the base lights up with a symbol known as the Triskele, which has multiple meanings: Earth, Water and Sky; Spiritual, Physical and Celestial; Past, Present and Future; Life, Death and Rebirth; Heaven, Earth and Hell; Maiden, Woman and Crone; in Genshin lore, one might interpret the Triskele as: Light Realm, Human Realm and Abyss Realm, or in Honkai: Imaginary Tree, Earth and Sea of Quanta.
Now, the Sea of Quanta is fighting a constant battle of dominance with the Imaginary Tree, the Sea tries to drown the roots of the Tree, while the Tree consumes the Sea into itself; the outcome of this conflict is where Honkai energy comes into things.
Simply put, Honkai energy powers civilization, from electric stoves to weapons, but it also corrupts life forms, turning some into Zombies, Monsters, or even Herrschers.
As for Teyvat, it's actually shown on a monitor in chapter 17 of Honkai Impact 3rd, the official writer had this to say about it's appearance in the scene in Fallen Rosemary's trailer:
"In the final part of main story Chapter 17, Overseer Otto observed other worlds via the Imaginary Tree. One of his observations is Dvalin, the wind Dragon from Teyvat."
So from this we have an official source directly stating that Teyvat takes place within the same multiverse as Honkai, not necessarily the same universe though.
In the Elysian Realm, Su has a conversation with Raiden Mei where he tells her about his psychic ability, and how it allows him to see into different worlds, he describes the following experience:
"In that world I am a woman, but one harboring great malice. She weaved an illusion that ensnared the entire Earth with spirituality far superior to mine."
From this it explains how different a parallel world in the Hoyoverse can be, so you can imagine just how different it might be farther down the Tree.
I kinda get it but it's too much information for me to pack it in.
Re: the Golden Apple Archipelago- my understanding is that they’re the remnants of Pilos Peak (from the early Fischl event). The summit, as described from the event, is now the entrance to the Spiral Abyss (Musk Reef). The rest got blown away by Barbatos. This would explain why some of the ruins are upside-down in the Archipelago.
The original location of the Pilos Peak is explained in the Hilichurl Language Guide that Ella Musk gave during the Hilichurl event- “Dadaupa” means “big mountain”. Pilos peak once stood where Dadaupa Gorge is now. (Are the 3 Hilichurl tribes remnants of the people that lived on the mountain?)
Time frame is a little vague; the mountain was there when Leonard climbed it (2,600 years ago) and was inspired to make the Glider. The mountain was virtually unclimbable and there was no mention of civilization then.
How did the entrance of the Spiral Abyss appear at the summit? Is that connected to the False Sky that Scaramouche/Mona reveal to us?
When/why did Barbatos destroy Pilos Peak? It seems before the Khaenri’ah War/Cataclysm, because the mountain was long-forgotten by the people of Mondstadt…
The damage to Decarabian’s tower (especially the bending of the trees) look like a massive force came OUTWARDS from the tower. If you consider Zhongli’s first character quest, where we see the aftermath of the death of an incredibly weak god causing massive death in proximity, my guess would be that the death of Decarabian caused an explosion of energy which devastated Old Mond. Also I believe the ruins in the archipelago are from Venti cutting down and blowing away the mountains in Mondstadt where they one existed.
Wow, so true! I wonder if that's how Amos died
"Perhaps opportune enough to question whether Kairos (Istaroth) may have been involved?"
Well, there's a lot of evidence that Istaroth was the divine being that blessed Sal Vindagnyr. The Diary of Roald the Adventurer tells us that the mountain was "abandoned by the Wind of Time," the Imunlakur Clan of Mondstadt who descend from Imunlakur the hero of Sal Vindagnyr worshiped the God of Time at the Thousand Winds Temple, and Istaroth's most devout followers appear to be scribes(see: the Scribe of Tokoyo Ookami who wrote "Before Sun and Moon") like the Scribe of the Scribe's Box.
Finally. Someone else who's been staring at teyvat floors for hours on end besides just myself.
I think at this point we can rule out the possibility of reused assets... I always wanted to take a closer look at all the ruins because they seemed similar yet definitely somehow different from each other. Hoyoverse really put effort into the smallest details. Thank you for this video
The people escaping the Golden Apple Archipelago/Haar Islands escaping Tsurumi Island and then becoming the people of Dragonspine because of two things, the grandmother in one of the conch shells being Mondstadtian (her seelie goes back to her homeland of Mondstadt, as well as her Nursery Rhyme being a Mondstadt Nursery Rhyme), and that the people who helped them escape the archipelago are people from Inazuma 500 years ago, when Ako Domeki and the others from Seirai Island rebelled against the Shogun, so they couldn’t have become Dragonspine Citizens as Dragonspine was roughly 3000 years ago according to the Imunlaukr Clan forming a few centuries before the fall of Old Mondstadt which was like 2600 years ago (all of these years are just approximations). Thank you so much for the video though, since it helps explain all the different architecture within the places and which civilization was connected to what.
Just a note regarding the Golden Apple Archipelago or the Haar Island - The ruines of at least one of the islands was from Mondstadt (Sal Vindagnyr) and were dropped in the ocean when Venti was terraforming the land. It's the same situation with Pilos Peak becoming Musk Reef (the island with the spiral abyss). There are two «quests» that expanded on it:
1- The one with the seelie that brings us back to Mondstadt via wormhole;
2- A hidden quest on a small unnamed island that once was an observation tower for the stars.
Now I understood it as being ruins coming from Sal Vindagnyr, but there might use to have a totally different montain near Windrise (kinda touched upon during the unreconcilled stars event).
Outside of the Knights of Favonious HQ is a sign depicting mondstadt, with a peculiar line sprouting into what looks like roots ( or potentially a cave or labrynth system) Which leads me to be absolutley 101% convinced there is a secret city underneath Mondstadt.
:o. (Rushes to go look at this.)
Might you have been talking about the sign over the Adventurers Guild Hall?
I see what appears to be a City or castle atop a structure, but at first glance it looks sort of like a castle on top of a tree.
A confusing image in and of itself. I can certainly see why you might see it as Mondstadt ontop of a network of tunnels… which…. Would be super interesting and I absolutely want this to be true lol.
@@TeyvatHistoria Yes that’s the one I’m on about, I didn’t know it was the adventurers guild hall though (the only one we’ve seen so far!)
There’s definitely something underneath, thanks for checking it out :)
Wow, so I am not the only one who thinks there is a tunnel network underneath Mondstadt xD You know, I always find the Decarabian tower in Old Mondstadt where we fought Dvalin interesting. It has a seal which prevents us from descending further. It reminds me of Havria's ruin seal in Zhongli's story quest Act 1. Maybe we can explore underground Mondstadt in the future?
@@ltak617 funnily enough, if you try to descend Decarabians tower it’s one of a few places where paimon will actually teleport you away to safety. I’m sure it’s just a mechanic thing but I also like to think paimon is a little more reluctant to let you go deeper to whatever danger lies sleeping at the bottom of the tower
I never really paid that much attention to the detail of the ruins. Real eye opener
The Nation of Khaenriah kinda reminds me of the High Kingdom of Numenor from one of the works of J.R.R Tolkein. Both are powerful human nations that left an impact on their worlds through Culture, Wisdom and even Technology and eventually both have met their tragic ends at the hands of their respective Deities ( The Gods of Celestia and the Valar of Valinor ) whom they have both pissed really really bad.
The only main difference here is that the Khaenriahns became a shattered wreck of their former selves that they became the Hillichurls that we knew today while the surviving Numenorians or specically those who did not pissed of the Valar would become the Men of the Dundedain and would live on by founding the Kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor.
not really. Khaenriah is a young nation, they merely copied the the style from ancient ruin kind of like how hitler try to model his future capital after roman design of large column and dome.
@@lagrangewei
Wait was it specifically mentioned on how many years Khaenriah lived as a nation before it faced its end at the hands of Celestia
@@captainvalourous6668 the ancient civilisation before the archon believe in gods, khaenriah does not, so khaenriah could not exist before the archon war because they are the result of a gap of territory control by no archon.
furthermore, it is never stated that celestia actually "destroy" khaenriah, we were told an event happened in khaenriah and the archon could not leave them be, dainlief never exactly blame them for their destruction, what he said was "they never recieved the aid of gods". i believe the way dainlief say it is very intentional by the writters to leave the issue vague. the archon did burn it to the ground, but it is likely after the diaster as already happened and they were trying to stop the corruption from spreading.
the one thing we learn about the traveler is his ability to purify corruption, this was shown in the dvalin quest and is why the archon venti became interested in the traveler. we also encounter the pillar twice, both times we "fix" the pillar, why would we "fix" it? if it is a weapon? because it not, it is a suppressor of corruption. what is the point of the story in enkonomiya? it is to tell us that abyss corruption is deadly to human and dragons.
the most important hint is we never saw a pillar in the destruction of khaenriah, if we are told that dropping a pillar is the SOP of celestia to "destruct civilisation", why was did not done to khaenriah and instead they had to burn the whole place down?
dainleif in the both the chasm and the meeting quest never state the ruin are khaenriah, instead he simply refer to the ruin as being familar as the reason why the ruin guard travel to them. no doubt the murder bot of khaenriah can see the similarity, but dainslief explicitly said the ruin are not related to khaenirah.
so you have to believe dainleif is lying in the entire quest if you believe they are the same civilisation.
@@lagrangewei this was very informative thanks D:
My theory about Khaenri'ah's technological advancement was that the one traveler that was awake, while the other was asleep until the destruction of the nation, provided information from other worlds. If i was to find a nation that was trying to advance without a god in Teyvat, i would have done the same thing in that situation.
The whole thing I dont understand is that why was one of the twin sleeping , and why did the other one went on a journey leaving their sibling behind sleeping
@@Roanak572 from what I know the siblings were both in Khaenri’ah before being confronted by the Sustainer (Unknown God) and the sibling was “sleeping” which I’m pretty sure just meant they were sealed away in slumber as they also lost their powers, the sibling that was awake didn’t have a way to free their sibling and continued on as the leader of the Abyss after the fall of Khaenri’ah
Don’t take this information as fact it’s just what I’ve put together
@@ThatsMox Yeah, I think what you said makes sense. Though I have a feeling that someone played a part in one of the travellers staying asleep while the other was founding a nation. Maybe Istaroth again? Since she has some kind of influence on timelines? Maybe she had already predicted all the possible outcomes at the moment the travellers set foot in teyvat. Though that would also mean that the sustainer of heavenly principles was manipulated by her to keep the twins in teyvat when they decided to up and run when all hell broke loose O_o
Here’s a question: Who is responsible for the Shrines of Depths scattered throughout Mondstadt, Inazuma, and Liyue (and are notably absent from Chasm and Enkanomiya)?
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the answer why all the ancient ruins around tevyat looks similar: they were all part of a single great civilization stretching across tevyat from the time of primordial one aka 6000+yrs ago.
after the battle between primordial one and second who came, the single great civilization breaks apart and turn into new civilizations like dragonspine, tsurumi island, and khaenriah founders are probably from the great civilization that's why khaenriah architecture is quiet similar to ancient ruins around tevyat.
I have an hypothesis, the ancient civilization that is older than Khanrei'ah is the true Celestia, the real one, before the second thrones came and that's why the fountain seems to relieve the pain of the heavenly principles curse 🤔
There are large circular structures in the Chasm which seem to form the shell of tunnels. Unique from this. You can see them easily in the tunnels around Ruin Serpent's lair.
Noted I’ll check it out! Thanks.
nice work analyzing the architecture designs! The details are so complicated that I unvoluntarily mashed them all together as one, but they are indeed different!
I never drew a comparison between the unknown god's attack and the strange formations of the Chasm. Other than noting that the formations were indeed strange.
Hard to unsee afterwards isn’t it lol?
@@TeyvatHistoria somewhat.
@@TeyvatHistoria yess now I wonder how I didn't see it ;-; thank you for the Awesome vid!!
The chunk of Storm Terror’s lair floating around the moon spire is 🤯
But wgere is the abyssal moon floor located, on moon ? Then why dont we see it floating there near the moon when there is night time
@@Roanak572 cos the sky we see is a hoax
@@Roanak572 teyvat originally had 3 moons. the abyss has a different moon than we see on the overworld.
Does Teyvat Historia has a video talking about the mural thing in the domains? if not, it would be incredible to see what he has to talk about those gigantic murals depicting somewhat the primordial one, please let this comment reach him!!
Ashikai did a video about it. she also has some crazy good theory videos in stock. especially mind blowing is her world structure series.
I love so much the way you're making your lore-videos. Your voice fits for discussion completely and visual-work is so incredible. Subscribe.
Cant begin to imagine the work put into this. Keep up the good work man
Just found this channel, freaking love it, never knew this much about genshin!
WOW this is good. I would just dismiss the same designs as "game developers being lazy" but this theory is mind blowing! Love it. hope you reach your sub goal
I've been watching this channel for a while now but i must say the effort put in has seemingly skyrocketed recently. love it!
I’ve been adding a lot of additional details where able as of late for sure!
Glad to see you’re enjoying them ^^
Okay I'm ngl I need to rewatch a bit to fully grasp everything you said and connect it to my own thoughts and see what all clicks
Thanks for the videos and hope you've been well!
you got it reverse, these are not khaenriah ruin, khaenriah was build in their image but is merely an attempt at copy. as dainleif stated, the ruin look familar, but he never regarded them as khaenriah. khaenriah is a relatively young nation, in the quest to find the ruin guard, dainleif stated the ruin guard are not protecting the ruin, rather they merely find them familar. in the chasm dainleif again said they are familar to him but are not khaenriah ruin. this is intentional, MHY want to make it clear that they are not khaenriah, khaenriah is an actual place and according to the chapter preview, we will be visiting, so it is clearly not the ruins we see around the world. rather the abyss and ruin guard are surveying the ruin because they are trying to collect information and learn the technology. they are copying, not part of these civilisation.
I love these theory videos, can’t wait for more
I actually think that the Sal Vindagnir and Tsurumi islands ruins are remnants of the empire of the Seelie. I suspect Khaenri'ah is in Natlan (lava fields) or in Mare Jivari (Could be wrong).
The Seelie we meet are mostly shells of their former selves and are super eroded. They are also always found near these ruins in most cases in high numbers. The architectural style does not match Enkanomiya or Chasm City designs either. Additionally if you notice the domes for these builds were much smaller than domes for say Enkanomiya buildings which had massive domes/no domes. Additionally why i think they belong to the erstwhile Seelie empire is the symbol on the gates, it looks like a Seelie (paimon does as well). Folks what do you all think?
I don't know if they'd be remnants... maybe their nations were allied or one had helped the other in some way and thus was respected by copying/adopting their architecture/symbolisms.
Paimon being a seelie, that's really cool as an idea and would make for a really nice plot twist later on.
As for Khaenri'ah, it's been basically confirmed that it was an underground nation, think of a dwarven kingdom essentially.
They likely tunneled up to the surface or found means (using Abyssal Energy and Technology) to make the jump from below to above.
Since it's confirmed that they sent envoys to other nations they thought would find merit in Khaenri'ahs goals, that means they had found said nations and explored them enough to learn about them, or had managed to ask surface dwellers for info perhaps.
The major concern is... was Khaenri'ah already descending into darkness at this point? See... the Serpent Knights in The Chasm drop an idol, and the first tier of idol refers to it being for a beloved, kind leader, the final tier, the idol changes and looks quite dark/evil in comparison to the previous two tiers, the flavour text is also dark, talking about the leader's dark ambitions.
Which implies that the ruler of Khaenri'ah was once a kind, beloved person who genuinely cared for humans, which is why they rallied under this king. But later his ambitions turned dark and grim, his goals no longer pure of intention.
I’m convinced that Mare Jivari is Khaenri’ah- in one of the loading screens, it explains “It is an endless plain of ash where the wind don’t blow”- devoid of all the blessings of the elements: No wind, no water to wash the ash away, no plants, ash doesn’t burn, no water to freeze, no storms or electricity…
It’s also where Stanley died- by Ruin Machines…?
Ive read somewhere tha Khaenriah may be based on the Ancient Civilization's architecture, which is why they're more advanced than any nation, possibly having discovered knowledge from those civilizations to build up their own.
I think the ancient ruins that predate Khaenri'ah in the Chasm and Enkanomiya is the nation that the gods that are currently residing in Celestia were originally a part of. Cause why else would these ruins have the ability to ease a curse from the gods themselves? It's possible that this was a nation of gods that has Khaenri'ah as it's indirect successor not so different from Ancient Rome succeeding Ancient Greece. They probably tried to bury it to hide their true origins.
This ancient civilization is probably the first human civilization in Teyvat.
Correct, these ruins were a part of a global "Unified Civilization" ruled directly by the Primordial One. Although Celestia is most likely the Second Throne that fought Phanes during the funerary year
So, the answer we already got from Enkanomiya before the sun and moon. The Primordial one ruled over all of teyvat, and there were no separate countries/regions with separate archons at the time. So it stands that all the architecture that match, over inazuma liyue and monstad, are all Primordial era architecture. It's also more fitting that those have the triquetra. whatever the triquetra stands for, it was more important and more revered in that era so it was put everywhere.
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Liyue and Inazuma has a way towards the "deeper world" except Mondstadt. I think the Thousand Wind Temple is equivalent entrance like Chasm and Enkanomiya
Yup I also believe it is. Paimon always says let’s explore this area later. It will probably also show us the ancient civilisation structure of the old Mondstat people
And there npc's that trying to find that entrance :)
I wonder if this'll bring us to somewhere similar to the old Mondstat that once had Pilos Peak/Musk Reef as its highest mountain at some point.
@@cavell6597 and i also believe that Varka took the entire knights towards the Thousand Wind Temple main entrance, or at least going on the same direction with Thousand Wind Temple. Because Gloria bf that got left out seems that he is walking almost directly at Thousand Wind Temple
@@OOwly i had this thought when Razor and Bennet got trapped on Thousand Wind Temple, its basically just impossible without proper plot hole and proper plot explanation. If we get Thousand Wind Temple as a new "Middle-Earth" entrance that also means that we will be receiving Mondstadt's Dock for open world
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I definitely needed this one
Perfect timing
I was just now looking around at the old Mondstadt's ruins and i have a speculation regarding those
I think the old Mondstadt before Decarabia took over was also an Underground city
( I cannot say it was city or not back ghen but I'm definitely sure that the terrain had been changed or affected)
I've always found it weird that the ground level of the old Mondstadt city is below the normal ground level yet not so deep when compared to other places silar
If you compare the map of the Surface of the chasm to the old Mondstadt on the map it is quite apparent that the old Mondstadt one is definitely not natural ( u don't mean in depth wise, i mean the outline of the place look very unnatural as if made through force)
I don't think whomever is responsible for it's odd terrain caved it in or pushed it down (like Enkanomiya)
I think the place was flat lands (think it it the area of old Mondstadt having a roof on top)
Fir making it simple to reference this cover over the old Mondstadt I'll call it the roof of old Mondstadt
I believe this roof of old Mondstadt had a massive tree on it which was pulled out of the ground with roots intact this creating the weird outline of old Mondstadt
To prove the the existence of this tree there's part of it which i believe to be a root in the walls of Andrius's trial areana, the side of it pointing underground is facing the old Mondstadt
This is one of my favorite theory’s by far!
Yes I knew you would address the cube formations in Chasm. I thought they were the Sustainer attacks since I looked at it
The ruins of ENkanomiya and the Chasm are probably remnants of the primaordial civilization under Phanes.
Since Enkanomiya was an actual part of the land of Phanes that got lost to the surface in the war against the 2nd.
And that assumption that the surface of the MoonspireDoes support my theory that the humans were brought to Teyvat from another world by Phanes; in the Ark as the story tells.
if I'm not wrong, sal terrae was sealed of by zhongli? from his first story quest, I think he told us this.
on the golden apple archipelago one of the seelie we follow ended up in mond, near dadaupa gorge if I wasn't mistaken.
yep.
In the Hilichurl Language handbook, it is said “Dadaupa means Big Mountain”. The Golden Apple Archipelago is the shattered remains of Pilos Peak (besides the summit that is now Musk Reef and the entrance to the Spiral Abyss). The upside-down ruins heavily imply they were blown there. Dadaupa Gorge is where Pilos Peak once stood.
I bet Sumeru also has different patterns somewhere. If not in 3.0 then in future updates.
I had the same idea that it wasnt Morax but the Sustainer who had created those rock structures/paths in chasm's last area. Good to see someone else thought bout it too...
i quit genshin a while ago, but this game’s lore still amazes me…
Thanks for sharing
I thought the cube like structure in the chasm was caused by the ruin serpent lol. It might definitely symbolize our first encounter but I don't think it's literally shaped by the unknown god.
One of the spookiest new things is that the same (likely terraforming) weapon used in dragonspire was also used to turn the land of king deshert into a desert...
I've been thinking that the Enkanomiya or domain structure may be connected to the seelies, though I'm not sure which one. The seelie are said to have been a major force a few thousand years ago, so it does fit into the claims of "older than Khaenri'ah, but it could also be they were the ones who built the domains as very little info explains who exactly made them.
There are 2 types of ruins, those of ancient civilizations that share characteristics with each other, and those of newer civilizations that are different from each other.
also what you said about khaenri'a in Sal Vinganyr that last message from the "new city without gods", according to the same game all those events of spinadragon, occur long before the foundation of mondstadt by a certain clan that was derived from this , and it was not little, it seems that it was long before the arrival of decarabian in the area because the icy weather already prevailed in the area.
also the ruins of the islands of the golden apple are the same ones that are literally in mondstadt, they were taken when the tops of the venti mountains were blown up who changed the climate.
Khaenri'a seems to use an architecture similar to the old Mondstadt, but without any symbology that represents divinity, because all the symbols that come out represent either primordia or the irminsul trees in most of the ruins.
There was an underground cave in GAA that had a strange cube pattern on the sealing and that same image seem in the behind the trees in domains
I noticed today that I couldn't climb the pillars around the Geo Hypostatis, the same way we can't climb inside domains. Thought that was interesting.
I also noticed some similarities at Wolvendom in the ruins to those at Stormterror's Lair, but they do seem to be very standalone.
Yeah I’ve always found that unusual.
Y’know it’s been a while since I looked hard at Wolvendom. Might be a good idea to return
10:00 there is actually a vestige of a tree that paimon corelated to the frost bearing tree in dragonspine, maybe these 2 areas are far more closely related than we know of now
Fast forward to Archipelago 2022: Venti used his Gnosis power to reshape Monstadt and the Archipelago is the cast off chunks.
we know that enkanomiya could possible have been the old celestia that was rules by the primordial one so if it shares designs with the chasm then maybe the chasm was part of the primordial ones world
Genshin Lore Masters: Reading every piece of information in the ruins and create theories about Celestia, Phanes and the Heavenly Principles
Me: casually waiting for Celestia Archon Quest that's probably gonna happen in 4 years from now cuz I wanna see Traveler fighting Gods alongside the big reveal of everything
an amazing video yet again. idk what but something really sus is going on in stormterror's lair. I mean we can't even see the ground beneath the tower in storm terror's lair. the ruins in tsurumi is really sus part since they are supposed to be way older. Also, could it be that a nail also fell on tsurumi?????or is it just some star or some other heavenly object that messed up its tree and leylines.
Also the chariot is also supposed to crash in chasm. But did we see anything related to that in chasm? Like we can see a big area from which azadaha was dragged by morax. Also where did battle take place and where did azdaha used to live when in chasm? so many questions.
I look at the ruins and see four incidents of Celestia destroying civilizations. We have the ruins of Khaenri'ah, the desolation of the civilization in the Chasm, The destruction of the civilization on Tsurumi Island and at Sal Vindagnyr. I can agree that it is likely that any overlap we see in the ruins is possible due to immigration of survivors who then integrated their aesthetics into the designs of the civilizations they settle with. We also have to consider that Liyue, Inuzuma and Monstadt existed when the "cataclysm" and its fallout took place as it has been noted that the destruction of Khaenri'ah thus making it possible that survivors of the event could also have fled there. We have proof of this being possible in the form of Albedo. If he escaped to Monstadt it is possible others who were not infected fled further.
For me the intertwining lines represents the snakes just like the door domain
are you some kind of archeologist that work from home or something? I mean.. yes I have the suspicion of those ruins are suspiciously identical and all.. but that is another level of architecture understanding..
also about Golden Apple Archipelago.. the one that Venti blew, ended up upside down.. if that piece was from Musk Reef's mountain, then it also indicate that Mondstadt is also have some connection to Khaenriah.. Durin also bickering like a kid to gold that he wanted to go to the city of bard..
True. That voiceline from albedo during archipelago event was probably indicating the same.
It's not part of the musk reef tho... Rather it is part of the thousand wind temple.. the evidence is that if you follow the seelie when you are in the upsidedown ruin in the golden apple archipelago and solve the puzzle you end up teleporting to the thousand wind temple where its courtyard resides.
Not only Durin bickering about Mondstadt but Gold also send Albedo to Mondstadt, too. (And guess who also planted their son in Mondstadt as "Khaenri'ahs last hope"~) There *must* be some kind of connection between Khaenri'ah and Mondstadt.
The chasm is twisted like it is because of the forces between the nail and the miasma. Read the description of the glaze crystal quest item.
Pretty sure it ain’t khaenriah all over but rather the ancient human civilization that the primordial one created? The one Ekanomiya used to be part of.
i think all the ancient ruins specially khanreiah may once be inspired or belong to thw first civilization that the primordial one built for humanity that belong to one unified nations. then either ancient civilizations got wreck wid the war between phanes and the 2nd who came or celestia punish then for unknown reasons after all they are much more ancient than khanreiah.
I have the same suspicion that Khaenriah was part or fragment or refugee from the primordial's civilization.. I mean.. Yes Dain said that "Khaenriah was a nation without a god.. not because it had one and died.. but it never had one in the beginning" .. but if it was formed by a group of refugee or one of the shade primordial was disguise themselves as mortal human like how Venti and Zhongli did, no one will notice..
@@FahrizalSurya yea for sure they might have found an ancient city or something back then and thats how they started to built the nation of khaenriah and also search and study the arts of khemia wid the abyssal power maybe something in the ruins that they founded khaenriah dey found something that made them the pride of humanity. Whatever happens to khaenriah or what those people did is something that affected other nations might as well be whole teyvat that the gods of celestia had to destroy them. Even the sustainer of heavenly principles punish them.
The ruins of old mondstat are likely much older and were simply re-inhabited when the god of storms lived there.
The idea that the ruins in Mondstadt and everywhere else are Khaenrian don't make any sense though? All we know about Khaenria, is that it existed somewhere in the Dark sea region, don't you think there would have been much more info about it in the world if it was actively going on conquests to get the land and to actively build stuff on it? It was destroyed only 500 years ago at this point, and all the other countries existed for far longer then that, they didn't get established on Khaenrian lands after it's destruction.
Absolutely everything points to all these ruins being from a FAR older civilization, the Sal Vindagnyr and probably even older ones, which in turn, when destroyed formed Khaenria, or went there when it was only getting started, hence the somewhat of a similarity Dain noticed, but even he stated the ruins are not Khaenrian... similarly when he was speaking of ruin guards peviously, he didn't say "they now reside in every Khaenrian ruins all over the world" he specifically said they took any ancient ruins for Khaenria and rested there, which in turn tells us those are definitely not Khaenrian ruins.
Wait what, I feel like I missed the part where he explains how he knows what is Khaenri'an architecture
Yeah if you didn't pay attention to these ruins you think that they're all the same but if you look close enough they have different details on them.. experiencing mihoyo's game yeah i can agree that its rare for them to use the same assets especially if they're trying to show or tell a story on them.
i dont remember where but in present map while doing a world quest i dont remember now but i swear i saw a room with hints related to celestia. it looked some kind or puzzle with 4 - 5 stars but 2 of them were lighted and others were dark. i still to this day try to find it. if someone knows this place please tell the location
When at 12:35 you say that the structure of the Abyss is more akin to the hull of a spacecraft I cannot stop thinking that Teyvat, as a whole, is in reality an IMMENSE spaceship with an internal, fake earthly biome which includes a 'control bridge' (Celestia) in the sky and, of course, a fake 'sky' to foil the creatures that live inside. After all, the world Teyvat means 'ark' in hebrew (as in Noah's Ark).
The Twins could simply have broken through the hull inside their meteor-pods when they came 'on' (inside) Teyvat...
7:43
Is that a spin crystal in the statues head??
Nah it’s just the glowing light from solving the puzzle there.
@@TeyvatHistoria ohhhh I can’t believe I had no idea there was a puzzle there lol 🤦♀️😂
The idea of people coming down from Sal Vindagnyr to spread their architecture to Khaenriah is unlikely. The sole survivors were allegedly Ukko, a scribe, and Imunlaukr, a warrior. Neither are good candidates for spreading architecture. This video brings up interesting points but there are holes.
U know when I played the god of salt quest I see this human statue and zongli said the god of salt is the who cursed them but I don't think so I think this might because of zongli not only that the funny part is zongli ult when the meteorite crashes the enemies it become statue coincidence I don't think so I think zongli lying to us
That would…. Not really line up with Zhongli as we know him today.
Sure he was by his own admission very different in his younger days, he he’s also a pretty open book where contracts don’t ensure his silence anyways.
spirasl abyss might be the lost city of khanrieh
i feel like inteyvat will be part of dains ascension material
Chasm ancient ruin are created by Aussie all along!
@ 11:48 to my knowledge they most often represent the maiden, the mother, and the old woman
That’s just one interpretation among many. I listed the most common christian and pagan interpretations. I forget which denomination that one corresponded to.
@@TeyvatHistoria those are more common? I think it's of Celtic origin and the maiden the mother and the hag is the Celtic meaning, so everything else is an adoption
At this point, Genshin might be a prerequisite game for Archeology students 🤣.
I feel like I subscribed to you more than once. Anyone else have that problem? I could have sworn I subscribed but it said I hadn't.
Huh. That’s awkward. Thanks tho!
the 4 pointed symbol appears on all domains, and there are floating adepti language symbols(I looked into them some time ago and that's what they are it seems - do we have any way to translate their language? ) floating on all domain gates. it's possible the adepti could've existed in the ancient time, because why otherwise would there be adepti symbols on gates that should belong to the old civilization(look on the symbols on zhongli statue and compare to the floating ones on gates, to me they looked similar).
also , with the chasm, it gave me a faint vibe kaenri'ah was around liyue, because I just can't understand why Celestia would drop a nail there. and the erratic cube like rock formations do seem similar to unknown god, and it only led me to believe kaenri'ah had to be around there.
I think Khaenri'ah might be under Mondstadt and Liyue.
As we see in this Video, the Khaenri'ah destruction looked like Mondstadt, precisely our starting area close to the sundials and temple of the thousand winds. I bet this could have been the entrance area from overground. or rather one of them.
I bet in the depths of stormterrors layers is another entrance. the stolen statue was kept in a ruin in liyue. the Chasm may have a locked area that leads to old Khaenri'ah.
I have a point to state... The nails on dragonspine, tsurumi and chasm underground must've been thrown by Celestia in order to kill the escapee(s) from khaenria'h distriction..
There's a nail on tsurumi island? Now this I have to see.
I came at a moment where I saw that only one individual has watched this video
Same lol
Uh. Upside down Triquetra on the ruins. Upside Triquetra on the Thousand Winds Temple. Upside down Triquetra on Paimon's chest. Interesting. And the fact that the Traveller has memories of Kanri'ah supports the theory that indeed what is now Abyss sibling could have been indeed the one that built that nation to begin with and pheraps, the initial scene of the game, is nothing but the siblings escaping from making a gigantic, epic "oopsie" ( creating a nation without a god in a world ruled by a very stroppy god).
Hmm about the goddess of Salt part, didnt her followerws kill her out of a dumb reasoning of not letting her feel guilty for not being able to protect her people? I do have this memory of this quest i my head somehow.
Will part of 2 of the enkannomiya video be released?
That was “why she was there”. Sadly 2.6 made my thoughts on the traveler less likely but my Paimon theory pressed forward from that idea.
And what's even more interesting is that Venti KNows everything, but he juat won't tell us....
Imagine the pain of those ppls who died during the escape from the Salt archon's temple, Salt inside of their body ~.~
Oh geez. Hadn’t considered that.
What about the architecture of Celestia/the nails. Thay don't match any of the other civilizations even though Celestia presumably had contact with many if not all of the civilizations.
Until we have more comparable objects to look at I don’t really have anything else to look at other than the pillars from the login window and the encounter with the sustainer. which are remarkable in their similarity but they’re not precisely perfect.
since you do alot of research and shinanigans do you do this alone?
I thought Khanreah was an underground nation and somewhere in Sumeru
Wait so when we se kanreah being destroid we see lumine and we see alot of things like the circle from devolins lair and other thing so all those thing might of been together when khanreah existed
But they somehof ended up all over the map and in stormterors lair when we meet a guy chasng the abis or vhatever we get flashbacks of khanreah and those thing might of reminded us of kanreah
And also paimon might be the key to this whole story and she actualy might be 1 of the 3 gods tha apeard out of novhere but she was born when we came to that world and fished her out but the mistery stil remains on how she knows almost everithyng
It is possible that Khaenri'ah had expanded throughout the entirety of Teyvat, on the underground, and had constructions in various places to as access to the upper surface.
Since Teyvat may be a flat world, and with the new Chasm ruins upside down, it is possible that the abyss/Khaenri'ah is an upside down Teyvat, not just underground but placed on the other side of the plane.
That would explain why Khaenri'ah has a sky, despite being beneath teyvat
finally, elu
hmm intensifies
wasnt khanreah an underground nation???
That is Kiana herrisher of the void
what about the ruins in araumi
Those are also Khanrea’ahn in design themes.
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