Forgetting that you're holding a ladder

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  • @kotori87gaming89
    @kotori87gaming89 3 місяці тому +5672

    DM missed an opportunity to make all the OTHER players make perception checks. kinda hard to hide a ladder from the rest of the party.

    • @theredeft5319
      @theredeft5319 3 місяці тому +313

      I bet he looted the carpenter by himself and then everyone just assumed it was a fancy new weapon

    • @pacmonster066
      @pacmonster066 3 місяці тому +239

      I mean for stuff in a bag of holding, nobody else would see it. If players don't keep track of stuff they collect it might as well not exist to them in campaigns that stretch weeks to months

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 3 місяці тому +118

      @pacmonster066 to the extent of that dnd is just paperworks for daydreaming about adventures, I'd say that you can absolutely help players when they're supposedly carrying a 20kg metal ladder and don't notice it

    • @babilon6097
      @babilon6097 3 місяці тому +70

      @@yasininn76 But not with a perception check of 2...

    • @anjafrohlich1170
      @anjafrohlich1170 3 місяці тому +155

      @@babilon6097 I dare to suggest that there shouldn't be a perception check or check of any kind needed for a person to notice they are carrying a whole ass ladder on their shoulder.

  • @Neversad95
    @Neversad95 3 місяці тому +2336

    0:36 I love Adam standing there like "Dude....I'm a druid. Why the heck would YOU need animal friendship?"

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому +161

      Because Adam wastes his spell slots on speak with plants before talking to people

    • @Hadeshy
      @Hadeshy 3 місяці тому +17

      Lmao I missed that

    • @Werewolf_dr
      @Werewolf_dr 3 місяці тому +15

      Came here to say exactly this. Good Adam!

    • @karategirl084
      @karategirl084 3 місяці тому

      @@jacobisbell9388 watch it again. He tried Speak w Plants to speak to people 😆

    • @younger544
      @younger544 3 місяці тому +5

      That's what's great. They KNOW some things, but are still so BAD, lol.

  • @wcmattman7571
    @wcmattman7571 3 місяці тому +1225

    "You reach into your bag of holding, pushing aside potions, scrolls, a ladder, you find your battleaxe and a longsword"

    • @Benjanuva
      @Benjanuva 3 місяці тому +71

      I am totally stealing this.

    • @delta_glider4362
      @delta_glider4362 2 місяці тому +69

      - and why do I need an axe to go through stone wall??
      - our GM is nuts
      (all party) - yeah

    • @wcmattman7571
      @wcmattman7571 2 місяці тому +61

      @@delta_glider4362 "You're RIGHT DM! You genius, we can use the axe and swords as shovels and go UNDER the wall!"

    • @tranquilthoughts7233
      @tranquilthoughts7233 2 місяці тому +5

      Bag of holding is for amateurs. Professionals carry a portable hole.

    • @Etrius_Fysik
      @Etrius_Fysik 2 місяці тому +21

      Did he check his horse pocket? Maybe he accidentally put something else in there.

  • @IntensivePorpoise
    @IntensivePorpoise 3 місяці тому +1231

    Britt's voice from offscreen: Rowan, you've got-
    Rob: you're not here, Britt!
    Britt offscreen: but he's-
    Rob: you stayed at the Ranger's Guild! You have no idea this is happening.

    • @kestrels-in-the-sky
      @kestrels-in-the-sky 3 місяці тому +57

      Having seen how they play would not be surprised

    • @zerodawn09
      @zerodawn09 3 місяці тому +34

      oh and when they get back and start complaining brit would ask "whats that on your shoulder?" and after a few moments of oblivious rowan she just walks away.

    • @sebastianlucius1259
      @sebastianlucius1259 3 місяці тому +1

      You're still asleep.

    • @InvisiblerApple
      @InvisiblerApple 3 місяці тому +16

      Damn, now I want a part 2 for this specific video@@zerodawn09

    • @riviale3195
      @riviale3195 2 місяці тому +4

      you're not there, you're getting drunk!_!

  • @theredeft5319
    @theredeft5319 3 місяці тому +3042

    Of course he couldn’t find the ladder, he’s probably got 12 different weapons and every piece of junk that wasn’t nailed down in his inventory. That or he forgot to write it down, the biggest cause of lost items.

    • @amegatron07
      @amegatron07 3 місяці тому +122

      I think he actually could use all his loot to make a pile to climb the wall.

    • @tenid4824
      @tenid4824 3 місяці тому +21

      i was thinking the same thing, it needs to be written down, or remembered right before the game starts, that's happened to me before, haha!

    • @temperedglass1130
      @temperedglass1130 3 місяці тому

      Simp

    • @Mox2077
      @Mox2077 3 місяці тому +24

      We had a hoarding cleric in our party ... when the player was off on vacation, someone else took over, looked over the character sheet and asked "Which one of these two platemails I'm carrying around is the best" *facepalm*

    • @ShaggyRogers1
      @ShaggyRogers1 3 місяці тому +16

      To be fair, if something isn't written down, then it is canonically forgotten by the PC. Especially with tools like DnDBeyond existing, really no excuse to not record whatever loot you care about enough to keep.

  • @mikewyatt2262
    @mikewyatt2262 3 місяці тому +2098

    Any good DM knows, if you want to challenge your party properly: a locked door, a large wall or a fast flowing river is stronger than any creature.

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +113

      More Challenging : An opened Mithril Door xD
      They would just assume that it was locked and that some magical traps are set on it.
      No RPG party would dare to try to open this kind of door the usual way.

    • @akmal94ibrahim
      @akmal94ibrahim 3 місяці тому +22

      Hell, most of the time, the locked door or large wall has got nothing to do with the quest whatsoever

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +11

      @@akmal94ibrahim That's the salt of DnD, sometimes the DM lure the party to do some useless shit

    • @jacobisbell9388
      @jacobisbell9388 3 місяці тому +34

      Woah hold on a minute, who said the door has to be locked? Just make it a fancy door and they'll never even try just opening it.

    • @hebl47
      @hebl47 3 місяці тому +19

      Or just a suspicious open door. That'll keep them occupied for an hour.

  • @michael_pilot
    @michael_pilot 3 місяці тому +656

    *2 minutes later * DM: "Your party arrives in front of another dungeon, whose guards are inexplicably asleep"

    • @petrowegynyolc7108
      @petrowegynyolc7108 3 місяці тому +266

      "However, Rowan, you can't fit through the entry gate. Make a perception check to see why."

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 3 місяці тому +50

      @@petrowegynyolc7108 That should be the full party makes a perception check to see why. One of them might succeed the roll!

    • @thassalantekreskel5742
      @thassalantekreskel5742 3 місяці тому +75

      ​@@Thurgosh_OG"Ok DM, what's my DC?"
      "Two."
      "#@%&!"
      "(Sigh) What was it?"
      "Nat one."
      "No crit fails on skills. Add your modifier."
      "Zero."

    • @benwagner5089
      @benwagner5089 3 місяці тому +106

      @@petrowegynyolc7108 Rowan turns around while next to the other guys.
      DM: Everyone but Rowan suffers 1 point of bludgeoning damage.
      Ben: What? Why?
      DM: Everyone roll for perception, DC of 5.
      *Everyone rolls below 5*
      DM: Nope, nobody knows where the damage came from.
      Rowan turns around again.
      DM: Everyone but Rowan suffers 1 point of bludgeoning damage.
      Ben: What the hell!?

    • @zerodawn09
      @zerodawn09 3 місяці тому +30

      or when combat starts "rowan you going to fight with that ladder or put it down for your weapon?" and you know a light bulb will hit but after the combat they all forgot the ladder and left it there.

  • @alexj1989
    @alexj1989 3 місяці тому +89

    I have to admit, as a GM I love these moments, or more specifically, the look on the party’s faces when they get back to town (or the ranger’s guild) and an NPC looks puzzled and asks why they didn’t just use the ladder.

  • @Vermouth_19
    @Vermouth_19 3 місяці тому +1359

    Gotta love it when the players are clueless, the DM is desperate, but the Dice God is just "Fuck you all" 😂

    • @Can-uj5pv
      @Can-uj5pv 3 місяці тому +76

      This is why you shouldn't call for rolls when you really really don't want something to fail.

    • @Vermouth_19
      @Vermouth_19 3 місяці тому +20

      @@Can-uj5pvtrue. Luckily, irl Rob doesn’t do this is his table.

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +8

      The Dice God is mischevious in many ways...
      Praise the Dice God !

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +10

      @@Can-uj5pv Yeah but looking at the sketch makes it evident that Rob plays a "By-the-book" DM.

    • @niels8143
      @niels8143 3 місяці тому +20

      @@Can-uj5pv You should especially don't call for rolls when the player should obviously succeed to notice the huge ladder on his shoulder. The DM made an awfull job here.

  • @neah9060
    @neah9060 3 місяці тому +517

    One of my players right now xD
    They entered a temple, found a talisman with a VERY SPECIFIC shape, and now the are stuck in a "dead-end", despite having noticed an empty space in the wall, an empty space with a VERY SPECIFIC shape 😂

    • @VivaLaDirtLeague
      @VivaLaDirtLeague  3 місяці тому +301

      Oh you’re going to love our next episode 😂

    • @errorerror8700
      @errorerror8700 3 місяці тому +31

      Is it the strongest shape? 😮

    • @unknownman5090
      @unknownman5090 3 місяці тому +16

      It got the same vibe when player in boss fight got tips on how to fight the boss by the game, fail miserably and complain about how the game doesn't tell you how that boss should be defeated

    • @AppleNorris
      @AppleNorris 3 місяці тому +5

      I hope they don't have a bard in the party.

    • @neah9060
      @neah9060 3 місяці тому +6

      @@AppleNorris no, we have a fire elemental with nymphomaniac curse after stealing from a goddess...

  • @someoneelse4939
    @someoneelse4939 3 місяці тому +41

    When the DM desperately wants to help you, but your dices repeatedly say "Nah, you don't".
    I know that feeling all too well.

    • @M.Datura
      @M.Datura 2 місяці тому +2

      Must obey the dice.

  • @karategirl084
    @karategirl084 3 місяці тому +43

    Shifty/hopeful DM eyes at 00:44. This whole sketch is adorable.
    Also glad the ladder people pointed out in the prior sketch was intentional.

    • @dragonslayer7840
      @dragonslayer7840 3 місяці тому +7

      Was waiting for someone to mention that the ladder argument from the last skit is settled.
      Confirmed, the ladder was wooden

  • @belphegro
    @belphegro 3 місяці тому +301

    The check you make him do is acrobatics, if he fails he falls over because he lost balance due to the LADDER he is holding, if he succeeds you tell him he manages to keep his balance even though the LADDER he is holding is making it way harder to keep it up.

    • @jonnyklar6055
      @jonnyklar6055 3 місяці тому +14

      Uh, I realy like this one

    • @KamiraXIV
      @KamiraXIV 3 місяці тому +84

      "Make an acrobatics check"
      "Oh, and with disadvantage"
      "Why disadvantage?"
      "Because of the ladder you are carrying"

    • @ChaoticNeutralMatt
      @ChaoticNeutralMatt 2 місяці тому +3

      Lmao it really is funny

    • @angelaharris53
      @angelaharris53 2 місяці тому +13

      My husband's idea was encumbrance. "Make a stamina check because you seem to be lagging behind ... that LADDER sure is heavy and awkward."

    • @TheRenofox
      @TheRenofox Місяць тому

      This is BRILLIANT! I will definitely be using it the next time my players end up in this exact situation.

  • @Vermouth_19
    @Vermouth_19 3 місяці тому +387

    "TOO MUCH ELSE TO SUBTITLE"
    Bless Lorquin for trying 😅

    • @VivaLaDirtLeague
      @VivaLaDirtLeague  3 місяці тому +133

      Haha Lorquin does an amazing job - but got to give love to the internal VLDL editing team for the main channel subtitles ❤

    • @Vermouth_19
      @Vermouth_19 3 місяці тому +30

      @@VivaLaDirtLeague ah sorry, I forgot the main channel had a different subtitler. They’re as funny as Lorquin’s!

    • @Seelenschmiede
      @Seelenschmiede 3 місяці тому +12

      They learned from THE BEST!

    • @Lorqu1n
      @Lorqu1n 3 місяці тому +28

      ​@@SeelenschmiedeYou're all very sweet. VLDL has been having funny subtitles from way before I found them! And they're still raising the bar!

    • @martinajurickova5750
      @martinajurickova5750 3 місяці тому +9

      @@Vermouth_19 I never realized they have different subtitle people. But makes sense with their expansion.

  • @squirrel0485
    @squirrel0485 3 місяці тому +19

    I liked how when they are discussing what to do next and they suggest walking back to the guild, the camera cuts to the DM shaking his head. As a DM I've had to physically stop myself from doing this at the table to not force the players decision.

  • @daerdevvyl4314
    @daerdevvyl4314 3 місяці тому +55

    “Hey, Rowan, your right arm is getting really tired. Roll an endurance check to see if you’re able to go on without a rest.”
    “Why is my one arm so tired?”
    “Well, you’ve been using it a lot lately.”
    “Hey, we’ve only been away from the town brothel for 3 days!”

  • @Grdiang3l
    @Grdiang3l 3 місяці тому +190

    I like how the DM was more disappointed at the bad rolls 😂

    • @sitnamkrad
      @sitnamkrad 3 місяці тому +28

      1 rule every GM should remember when it comes to rolling.
      Don't let players roll if one of the outcomes will be destructive to the game.
      This includes having them roll hoping for a success so they can proceed. Or having them roll for something ludicrous expecting them to fail.
      This sketch perfectly indicates why.

    • @WilliamDeVey
      @WilliamDeVey 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sitnamkrad Our ref has a major questline that cannot be discovered (at this time) without consecutive natural 20s. Two of the characters on a random walkabout proceded to do just that.

    • @sitnamkrad
      @sitnamkrad 3 місяці тому +4

      @@WilliamDeVey Not sure what your point is. Hiding a secret behind rolls or intending to save something for later is not destructive to a game.
      Literally stopping the game in its tracks to do a boring backtrack especially when the solution was right there, is.

    • @rocksfire4390
      @rocksfire4390 3 місяці тому +1

      @@sitnamkrad
      except that wasn't what happened, there was no check for the ladder at the start. the players were incapable of basic reasoning and are ill prepared.
      they certainly are not going to be saving the world like that, the campaign SHOULD end or take a long detour because CLEARLY the players are incapable of making basic observations.
      if you can't even see a ladder in your inventory then if you really want to roleplay then the GM should give your character -100 int and you just die from suffocation because you forgot how to breath.

    • @sitnamkrad
      @sitnamkrad 3 місяці тому +3

      @@rocksfire4390 Tell me you're not fit to GM without telling me you're not fit to GM. You would let the whole game session be ruined, your hard work wasted, making sure nobody is having fun including the GM (clearly shown in the sketch), just because someone overlooked an item in their inventory. Congrats, you just wasted about 20 manhours of time. Because of a ladder.

  • @RoverIAC
    @RoverIAC 3 місяці тому +247

    I was on a film set and the directer called out "we need a ladder". He was standing right in front of a ladder.

    • @Chraan
      @Chraan 3 місяці тому +61

      There is no glasses-wearer in existence who has never looked for his glasses with his glasses on.

    • @clarehidalgo
      @clarehidalgo 3 місяці тому +18

      @@Chraan My mom once has 2 pair of reading glasses and a pair of sunglasses on top on her head when she was looking for glasses. I have not looked for my glasses when I was wearing them before as a near-sighted person I know when I don't have them on as anything more than 1.25 ft from my face starts to get blurry, but I once couldn't find them because my mom set a single sheet of printer paper on top of them and spent 30 minutes looking before I found them

    • @Elkadetodd
      @Elkadetodd 3 місяці тому +14

      I've used the light on my cellphone to look around a dark room for my cellphone.

    • @petertaylor4980
      @petertaylor4980 3 місяці тому +4

      ​@@ChraanI'm with @clarehidalgo on this: we serious miopes never look for our glasses while wearing them because we know that if we can see sufficiently to look for our glasses we must already be wearing them. Besides, the only times I'm out of bed and not wearing my glasses are when I'm showering or swimming.

    • @Konani_the_unicorn_queen
      @Konani_the_unicorn_queen 3 місяці тому

      @@Elkadetodd -i once went around asking for a pen i had used just before, while it was in my mouth. not just the tip stuck into the side, i had it horizontal between my back teeth, so even while asking if anyone'd seen it, i had to maneuver my mouth around the object.

  • @yarion4774
    @yarion4774 3 місяці тому +49

    First mistake: always have rope on you. As an adventurer worth their salt, you always keep at least 50 ft. of rope on you.

    • @nujevad28
      @nujevad28 3 місяці тому

      With their luck, they probably used it in ways it shouldn't have, thereby destroying it.

    • @Okinawatrip
      @Okinawatrip 2 місяці тому +1

      And a holocaust cloak.

    • @morganalori
      @morganalori 2 місяці тому

      rope and a grappling hook

    • @meglobob9217
      @meglobob9217 2 місяці тому +1

      And a 10 ft pole...errrr because...wtf do we always carry that 10 ft pole around with us again?

  • @domihase8148
    @domihase8148 3 місяці тому +60

    I love these little moments between the characters.
    Ben: "Nah, I switched it this morning for Animal Friendship."
    Adam's pose seems to say: "Are you serious? Did you notice that I'm a druid?"
    And the frustration of the players over the nonsense of Rob's impossable task was just hilarious. 😂

    • @rainevasquez662
      @rainevasquez662 3 місяці тому

      LOL was looking for this comment. omg i lol'd

  • @StixDarKlor
    @StixDarKlor 3 місяці тому +116

    Rob really is the Goat of D&D, and such a good actor in these videos….his frustration and disappointment is endless 😂🤣

    • @diwataluna
      @diwataluna 3 місяці тому +6

      Sorry, Vivian the Oracle!

    • @TheBarbarianGamer
      @TheBarbarianGamer 3 місяці тому +5

      I like DMs like I like my therapists: Every week, I try to make them cry.

    • @HellDuke-
      @HellDuke- 3 місяці тому +3

      I think his frustration and disappointment is just experience at this point

    • @snyperwulffgaming9575
      @snyperwulffgaming9575 3 місяці тому

      I don't think that's acting. I'm pretty sure that's just how he exists at this point.

    • @Trumpster05
      @Trumpster05 3 місяці тому

      That's because it's true. As previous people said, this isn't really acting. He knows this frustration well. Though most actors call on previous experiences to accurately portray their reaction to a situation.

  • @pacmonster066
    @pacmonster066 3 місяці тому +24

    For the people not understanding the D&D logic involved, items in each person's inventory are not publicly viewable on the character. The video had Rowan hold the ladder so we could visually see it was in his inventory, but nobody else would be able to see it.
    And the meta reason why Rowan might not have known he had a ladder is because players have to write down the things in their inventory. It's very common in long D&D sessions for people to not keep note of stuff that goes into their inventory, then forget about the item entirely on future sessions. Especially if there's a long break between sessions. So while the DM might have kept their own notes of who has what, if the players don't, the item might as well not exist.

  • @pyredynasty
    @pyredynasty 3 місяці тому +21

    He should have stored it in his ladder pocket.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL 3 місяці тому +54

    Feeling the frustration here guys, hard break indeed. Maybe the DM has a reason for that wall, guess you will figure it out eventually.

  • @Idlemind842
    @Idlemind842 3 місяці тому +95

    Now there is a chance of a follow up where Rowan needs to roll agility every time he tries to pass through a door, or enters a shop full of breakables.

    • @pacmonster066
      @pacmonster066 3 місяці тому +7

      ...so many people misunderstanding the visual shorthand of the ladder being in Rowan's inventory and thus invisible to everybody (including Rowan) with the literal thing in the video of Rowan holding the ladder and not noticing he's holding a ladder.
      People, there was no way to visually depict how the D&D inventory works without doing it this way.

    • @DrakeWurrum
      @DrakeWurrum 3 місяці тому +6

      ​@pacmonster066 - that would only really be true for a bag of holding or a haversack.
      Outside of that, players really do be just carrying shit around on their back and forgetting it's there.

    • @alexj1989
      @alexj1989 3 місяці тому +14

      My favorite way of letting them know what they missed, “As you turn to leave, the ladder on Rowan’s back hits a tree, nearly knocking him over.”

    • @martinajurickova5750
      @martinajurickova5750 3 місяці тому +4

      @@alexj1989 or: turning around, the rest of the party gets damage points because he knocks them over :D

    • @pacmonster066
      @pacmonster066 3 місяці тому +2

      @@DrakeWurrum Anything a player has out that isn't their weapon or gear they have to have declared during their turn. A player cannot be holding an object they don't know about, that's not how the game works.

  • @babilon6097
    @babilon6097 3 місяці тому +25

    Now we need a video of Vivian the oracle waiting for the adventures.

    • @charlottet7379
      @charlottet7379 3 місяці тому

      OMG yes!! 😂😂😂

    • @shalekendar6759
      @shalekendar6759 3 місяці тому +1

      How about one with Vivian the Oracle sleeping in while the party trudges away in the background with a note next to her bed reminding her that the adventurers will be there tomorrow :P

  • @kevindaniel1337
    @kevindaniel1337 3 місяці тому +8

    My party and I spent two months worth of sessions (a year in game) living in the underdark, mostly in a dwarven city. It was the session before we left that i finally noticed my character knew Dwarven. We'd been struggling the entire time because only one party member spoke it which made splitting up difficult.

  • @RexRegisPeter
    @RexRegisPeter 3 місяці тому +13

    We once was trying to get into a small castle, we talked about how to get past the guards for ages until I had enough and just ran up to the guards saying that I was lost and needed to use the latrine( I was a female elf). the guards let me in and I spent an hour or so figuring out a way to get my friends over the wall to join me inside.
    Later the DM told us that the guards was friendly and would have let us all in if we just asked.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 3 місяці тому +52

    Robert's sad look is the embodiment of every GM.
    Spot on.

  • @afKXzq87lE
    @afKXzq87lE 3 місяці тому +27

    Rowan beeing like "I have nothing on me, i'm carrying this heavy ladder, so literally don't have a spot fo anything else"

  • @Trumpster05
    @Trumpster05 3 місяці тому +8

    I would have said passive perception was enough. But this happens all the time. Of particular note from old games was how every party would carry a 10 foot pole to set off traps from a safer distance but would conveniently forget they had it when trying to run down a tight 5 foot tunnel.

    • @M.Datura
      @M.Datura 2 місяці тому +3

      That sounds like potentially funny set up for a DM who remembers. Either as an invisible barrier, something that requires a team effort, or simply, if a strong enough caracter is running full tilt into the tunnel with it, it breaks, loudly, and obnoxiously, showering those following in splinters.

  • @jaminschmitt
    @jaminschmitt 2 місяці тому +2

    There is a prank video where a guy carries a ladder to see how far he can get into a secure area. It was amazing what he got away with. Places like the backstage of a concert, the kitchen of a high-class restaurant, among others.

  • @thebenforever
    @thebenforever 3 місяці тому +172

    This is a textbook example of a DM with standards and a heart for teaching.
    Instead of making sure his hours of prep for this encounter was utilized by allowing the checks to succeed, or dropping ladder-themed puns (they exist....they..they must...), he held course to teach Rowan the value of taking notes.
    A true educator, that one.

    • @yasininn76
      @yasininn76 3 місяці тому +5

      "rowan, you suddenly realize that Ben defending himself is him just CLIMBING ON MIRRORS" I did my best ok

    • @thebenforever
      @thebenforever 3 місяці тому +1

      @@yasininn76 we're all in this together!
      For Rowan!

    • @blablubb4553
      @blablubb4553 3 місяці тому +30

      I disagree. This is a textbook example of a DM who is too stupid to realize that "noticing a ladder in your own inventory of items" does not require a check. He could just straight up remind the player that he picked up the ladder back in the carpenter's guild and then move on with the adventure.
      The biggest mistake most DMs make is making players roll checks for everything that is so easy, even a child could do it.

    • @thebenforever
      @thebenforever 3 місяці тому +15

      @@blablubb4553 maybe the character, not the player, is really absent-minded and they are trying to hold firm with that whenever possible.
      Either way, describing the DM as "stupid" for making a choice to not tell the player seems incorrect. If he did it unintentionally that's one thing. Here, he seems to just be a glutton for punishment.

    • @shachaization
      @shachaization 3 місяці тому +11

      Punishment can't apply as players started to think that the DM made a mistake putting them in this situation
      Eventually, when the DM will angrily say "You had a focking ladder in your inventory", then MAYBE players will learn... Or just stay on their position and say "why didn't you remember me I was holding a focking ladder then ?"
      New point is : maybe don't try to educate your players, just write a story WITH them and have fun :D

  • @THEDARKNESS890
    @THEDARKNESS890 3 місяці тому +241

    I like how Rowan is always the dumbest in every video

    • @martindirkzimmer
      @martindirkzimmer 3 місяці тому +9

      When Briaryon isn‘t around

    • @THEDARKNESS890
      @THEDARKNESS890 3 місяці тому +2

      That’s so true

    • @beliotrednar1611
      @beliotrednar1611 3 місяці тому +15

      Not really. DND logic season one, he was the Rule Lawyer character which is in one perspective, the most prepared/intelligent member of the team.

    • @unknownman5090
      @unknownman5090 3 місяці тому +2

      @@beliotrednar1611 The biggest crap in the team

    • @mike_gusta2994
      @mike_gusta2994 3 місяці тому +10

      The only videos where Rowan isn't the dumbest one is when he is arguing with Ben about gaming logic 😂 Even though Ben is always right it never makes any sense 😆 Pocket horse, really? Path blocked by a small log? Eat the vial like a NORMAL PERSON! 😂

  • @nickvaleontis4657
    @nickvaleontis4657 3 місяці тому +7

    This story should get a part 2. Where they return back to the tavern and somehow Rowan decides to use the ladder for something totally irrelevant :) Btw your DND videos are always so awesome to watch.

  • @traxdaddy3182
    @traxdaddy3182 3 місяці тому +5

    This happened to my group and we fled the city only to find out from a note delivered by an arrow we need back in. Go around 45 minutes or try to get over a 15 foot wall with no cover around. I had a robe of many things and made a window, we went through the wall. The DM said it was a frustrating and proud moment all in one.

  • @TrevorTheNinja36
    @TrevorTheNinja36 3 місяці тому +598

    Don’t you just hate it when forget your carrying a 50 pound metal ladder ugh so annoying.

    • @theredeft5319
      @theredeft5319 3 місяці тому +23

      The worst part is now they are blaming the DM for not giving them a way through.

    • @jarrod752
      @jarrod752 3 місяці тому +10

      @@theredeft5319Isn't his fault Rowan's die rolls suck.

    • @yukikopixel
      @yukikopixel 3 місяці тому +4

      Whatcha talking aboud?
      I have Strenght on 18 i don't even nodice when i carry a meal ladder with me

    • @psmitty840
      @psmitty840 3 місяці тому +1

      The wonderful world of AD&D

    • @FaultAndDakranon
      @FaultAndDakranon 3 місяці тому +6

      The ambiguous material ladder returns! 😂❤

  • @EvaSigurdardottir
    @EvaSigurdardottir 2 місяці тому +3

    "I _only_ loot gems."
    Ben just called me out so goddamned hard. 😂

  • @karazsteel
    @karazsteel 3 місяці тому +4

    Vivian the Oracle will just happen to be in the next castle, tower, tavern and the guild itself, but they'll keep failing to find her.

  • @usererrer7493
    @usererrer7493 3 місяці тому +4

    Good God this takes me back to one of my most formative D&D experiences ages ago, in 1st-edition days. The party had just been savaged by a black dragon. One of the players took a final look over his character sheet before tearing it up and exclaimed "Oh crap, I had a potion of black dragon control." This sort of thing has been my pet peeve ever since, and as a DM you realize that it happens ALL THE FREAKIN TIME.

  • @tuukka518
    @tuukka518 3 місяці тому +22

    Rowan should have hit the other guys when turning with the ladder, like on the Monty Pythons Hollywood bowl show :)

  • @SuperBlackatude
    @SuperBlackatude 3 місяці тому +129

    With Rowans luck the ladder would have disintegrated as soon as he saw it

    • @babilon6097
      @babilon6097 3 місяці тому

      It's not a video game. It's DnD logic

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +2

      @@babilon6097 Some bad shits can still happen, that's DnD after all

    • @babilon6097
      @babilon6097 3 місяці тому +4

      @@yabokuyukimura2646 Hmmm... a perception check of 1. Critical failure. Frustrated GM: "You look around so hard that you smash THE LADDER that you were carrying against the tree". Rowan "I was not carrying my ladder against the tree...!"

    • @yabokuyukimura2646
      @yabokuyukimura2646 3 місяці тому +1

      @@babilon6097 You finally find the ladder in your inventory but fails to see that it's infected by termites.

    • @babilon6097
      @babilon6097 3 місяці тому

      @@yabokuyukimura2646 Why would Termites appear as a result of Rowans action?

  • @Hludwine
    @Hludwine 3 місяці тому +3

    Love the continuity with the ladder. The mystery of the last episode is finally explained!

  • @patrickholt2270
    @patrickholt2270 3 місяці тому +3

    Ah, the Ladder of Forgetting. Nearly as useful as the Ring of Plot Avoidance.

  • @darkner2390
    @darkner2390 3 місяці тому +91

    Maybe making intelligence their dump stat wasn't such a smart idea after all.

    • @masonharris9166
      @masonharris9166 3 місяці тому +4

      Especially funny since I'm pretty sure Ben is a wizard here.

    • @hawkname1234
      @hawkname1234 3 місяці тому +1

      In 5e, that's everybody.

  • @Lawrence_Krystle
    @Lawrence_Krystle 3 місяці тому +7

    Reminds me of Baradun carrying the displacer beast pelt and Bob's crate of potatoes.

  • @stanbartsch1984
    @stanbartsch1984 3 місяці тому +4

    Literally had a party do this....
    They encountered a vampire's lair, and decided to go do research on how best to defeat vampires [yes, it was a week's trudge back to town, but they already had enough loot to justify the walk].
    After a thorough investigation into vampire's capabilities and vulnerabilities, they decided they needed a way to create "sunlight" - a light bright enough to stun or kill the vampires outright. They began to scour the local magical shops and sources for something like a wand or a scroll that would give them the upper hand, not really sure if such a thing existed. Again, after much investigation, they came to the conclusion that what they really needed was a Wand of Illumination, which has a "Sunburst" effect. Return to the shops again, and spend much time and energy trying to locate where such a wand might be.
    Then, one of them looks through his inventory for something else, and says "Oh, well, look at that, sitting at the bottom of my bag of holding...."

  • @job8
    @job8 3 місяці тому +4

    Poor Vivian the Oracle...
    I hope she gets a chance to show up another time soon.

  • @kathrina3339
    @kathrina3339 3 місяці тому +22

    Poor Rob probably went to bang his head against this wall. Hold on, mate 😆

    • @VivaLaDirtLeague
      @VivaLaDirtLeague  3 місяці тому +16

      Maybe that will break the wall down? 😂

    • @kathrina3339
      @kathrina3339 3 місяці тому +2

      @@VivaLaDirtLeague I guess this is the only way to break the wall down 😅

    • @clickrick
      @clickrick 3 місяці тому +1

      @@kathrina3339It's either that, or punch it. You know, like a normal person.

  • @Mlurd1
    @Mlurd1 3 місяці тому +21

    My soul cried when I saw those dice land on ground.

  • @Joi_to_da_World
    @Joi_to_da_World 3 місяці тому +4

    I love Rob just tearing out the whole section and leaving it behind

  • @thefunk0130
    @thefunk0130 3 місяці тому +1

    Man I love this series. So much truth delivered so painfully for anyone who's ever crawled a dungeon with friends around a table

  • @JohnathanHyde.
    @JohnathanHyde. 3 місяці тому +13

    I think it's more impressive that NO ONE ELSE saw the massive ladder Rowan was carrying either. Poor DM.

  • @zorro4095
    @zorro4095 3 місяці тому +33

    I love how even the alan, adam and ben doesn't see that rowan does hold a ladder.

    • @WhisperDeathray
      @WhisperDeathray 3 місяці тому +16

      Well they can't, it's in his inventory. They can't see his items period

    • @vjosullivan
      @vjosullivan 3 місяці тому +8

      @@WhisperDeathray Yes, but the joke of these videos is to show how daft many D&D concepts are in the real world (such as having an inventory that can contain a ladder (and make it zero size (and make it weightless (and make it invisible )))).

    • @brianstraight9308
      @brianstraight9308 3 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, but they could do perception checks too and see that Rowan is carrying it.

    • @maksymisaiev1828
      @maksymisaiev1828 3 місяці тому

      @@brianstraight9308 except I don't think this is an option. Other players can't see others inventory (until owners volunteraly gives this possibility). And any other action will actually be less role play.

    • @brianstraight9308
      @brianstraight9308 3 місяці тому +4

      @@maksymisaiev1828 Depends on how we want to look it this. Is Rowan actually physically carrying the ladder to the point where it's obviously present (making perception checks unnecessary) or is it stuffed in a Bag of Holding where he can "forget" he has it as a character and the other characters not knowing he has it (other than maybe remembering him putting it in the BoH?) If he's actually walking around with it on his shoulder (and the DM has been letting him get away with this by constantly reminding him by having him do agility checks) then the other characters should be able to percieve this to the point of rolling dice is pointless. He's carrying a ladder on his shoulder thus isn't something you need to "percieve" anymore than needing to "percieve" the ground to stay walking on it.
      Yes, there's keeping the players "in the game" and having these things on their mind but the DM is obviously frustrated at the loss of the dungeon crawl he had set up. He could have used the power of being DM to tell Rowan above the table. "You have a ladder!"
      And Rowan's dice obviously hate him.

  • @seanbrockest3888
    @seanbrockest3888 3 місяці тому +2

    "maybe just go through and list the items you took, and maybe someone else will be able to think of a use for one of them that you've overlooked"

  • @medigoomnis
    @medigoomnis 3 місяці тому +4

    Rowan's "IRL" character bringin the d4 brain to a d20 game, oh man...

  • @user-qg9hn4wk3f
    @user-qg9hn4wk3f 3 місяці тому +9

    Forgetting stuff in his horse pocket, oh easy

  • @Minedeleis
    @Minedeleis 3 місяці тому +8

    The face Adam makes when Ben mentions Animal Friendship to a druid 😂

  • @Laleluna89
    @Laleluna89 2 місяці тому +3

    As a DM, even if he'd thrown a 1, I would have decided like this: "While you investigate, you suddenly lose balance and crash head first in the dust, you receive 4 damage and you realise, that you were carrying a ladder all the time, which caused your fall, when it got tangled on a branch"

  • @XDSDDLord
    @XDSDDLord 3 місяці тому +1

    They are standing in a military camp in a forest; there are enough supplies to build a ladder, a ramp, or even just something you can scale, like putting a tree against the wall.

  • @ryadinstormblessed8308
    @ryadinstormblessed8308 3 місяці тому +17

    Inexperienced DM: "ooh, the party found the specific item they'll need later! Thank goodness! They'll be so happy they have that a couple sessions from now!"

  • @jamesh1866
    @jamesh1866 3 місяці тому +2

    I like that when they walk away they walk below ropes between trees, must have all failed their perception checks

  • @Geeyle
    @Geeyle 2 місяці тому +1

    At a time when I’m broken down with sadness from losing my grandfather, you guys really brighten my day a little. Thank you.

  • @evilcritter
    @evilcritter 3 місяці тому +1

    I LOVE Adam at the end :D You never see him get pissed like this.
    Also, he's right. Because he takes notes!

  • @vectinator7605
    @vectinator7605 3 місяці тому +3

    He didn’t see the ladder in his inventory because Rowan has epic complex names for each item and he can’t remember what half of them even are.

  • @Me-th3gj
    @Me-th3gj 3 місяці тому +5

    Make the plant guy bend a tree. lol

  • @adanhollis6732
    @adanhollis6732 3 місяці тому +3

    Love to see Adam rocking a tattoo!

  • @FlameStrykeShadowDark
    @FlameStrykeShadowDark 3 місяці тому +1

    I like these "live action with the dm" videos. And I've run games with people who couldn't roll their way out of a wet paper bag to save their lives, so I feel Rob's pain, too.

  • @saltzkruber732
    @saltzkruber732 3 місяці тому +28

    If he tried to place the ladder he would just get an error for object obstruction.

    • @NerdWytch
      @NerdWytch 3 місяці тому

      Fellow KCD fan, Jesus Christ be praised

  • @ts25679
    @ts25679 3 місяці тому +2

    I know this was for the lols but for anyone who doesn't know you don't have to ask for a roll. If the adventure hinges upon its success and failure is just going to leave everyone frustrated and spinning their wheels you can give them a narrative penalty and just move things along. Rowan's character isn't an idiot (I assume) so even if the player forgets they've got some vital bit of gear, social contact, ability or what have you you can always remind them of their options. It isn't always hilarious to watch the party fail to open a door for an hour

  • @M.Datura
    @M.Datura 2 місяці тому +1

    This made me think of how to more easily keep an overview of inventory items. In most games inventory isn't a long list of nouns with descriptions: it's images. Perhaps, if a player has difficulty recalling useful items, doodling a small image of it on the side of the item name might make it easier to jog the memory.
    I would do that, but I know I'd probably make a whole deal out of it because I love drawing "in game" items...

  • @Chraan
    @Chraan 3 місяці тому +1

    Oh man, this is literally me. The rogue who has the skillset and inventory to be prepared for any situation, but then I somehow either lack the memory or creativity to use any of that on the spot.

  • @secret-alias
    @secret-alias 3 місяці тому +6

    I was fully expecting rob to wave his hand in a circular motion doing some "DM Magic" while saying:
    "OH LOOK, You notice a little hole in the wall just big enough for you".
    Just so they can continue :D

    • @SpaceMarine4040
      @SpaceMarine4040 2 місяці тому

      I was expecting that plus a "except you rowan I am going to need an acrobatics check"

  • @AlexConroy2003
    @AlexConroy2003 3 місяці тому +3

    "how should I know speak with plants wouldn't work on the guard?". Sadly, many a dnd player has met that level of sadness.

    • @sebastiancoar1991
      @sebastiancoar1991 3 місяці тому +1

      @AlexConroy2003. And yet, "Speak with Plants," worked on the guy in a coma in an adventure I played 🙃

    • @setver1535
      @setver1535 3 місяці тому +2

      @@sebastiancoar1991 He was obviously a vegetable at that time.

  • @memoowo
    @memoowo Місяць тому +1

    I love when Ben said Animal Friendship and Adam was just gesturing to his druid robes lmao I love it

  • @gabrielvieira9578
    @gabrielvieira9578 3 місяці тому +13

    Adam: How was I supposed to know that Speak With Plants wouldn't work on a FLESH AND BONE GUARD?

  • @mrbakanstar
    @mrbakanstar 3 місяці тому +3

    That bit of argument of Rowan and Ben, classic Rowan and Ben moment

  • @JuliWieApril
    @JuliWieApril 3 місяці тому +1

    I love how in this new DND universe Rowan again is the one forgetting everything 😂 Rowan, the always forgetful in all worlds of the metaverse

  • @andrewgolubiewski3463
    @andrewgolubiewski3463 2 місяці тому

    This is my FAVORITE take of d&d content. I would love a full feature length story told this way.

  • @zztophatzztophat
    @zztophatzztophat 3 місяці тому +3

    This is DM 101 level shit, if you are going to put a barrier in the way of progression you have to plan for the party failing to bypass it. A locked door, great, they fail to pick it and fail to break it... whatever plan C is... just works end of story or else: it's end of story. These sorts of checks and tests and challenges exist to allow characters to show off both their creativity and the varied strengths of their characters not to stop progression. The solution to this one is real simple, the party takes too long, enemies arrive, there is a fight, the then dead enemies either leave something that helps, tell the party something or their avenue of attack reveals something crucial.
    Basically, if you want the party to find a secret door and they can't; put an assassin behind it.

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 3 місяці тому

      For doors - our group once had plan D for Dieterich. No, not the german word for lockpicks, a very strong dwarf named Dieterich with a heavy weapon. Suptle as a dwarf but it worked

  • @anidiot8438
    @anidiot8438 3 місяці тому +5

    cheeseburger

  • @duranbrown211
    @duranbrown211 3 місяці тому

    I genuinely love your videos so much. You guys have put out polished high effort content since the beginning. I’ve followed your guys’s rise since your early days, very proud of how far y’all have come.

  • @bryanabbott6169
    @bryanabbott6169 3 місяці тому +2

    When carrying a 10' pole was something players used to do (first edition Advanced D&D), a lot of players ended up forgetting that they had it on them. Imagine trying to walk in a dungeon with a 10' pole, with twisty 3' wide corridors....

    • @mbr5742
      @mbr5742 3 місяці тому +1

      Polearms where also a well liked item. Untill a GM who also was a reenactor got his from the cellar and asked the player to wield it in the entry way...

  • @attilakiss8585
    @attilakiss8585 3 місяці тому +1

    This happened to every team I guess, in some form. Very typical, good story.

  • @salihnu
    @salihnu 2 місяці тому

    A good DM advice I can give you is the concept of falling forward.
    Like make the ladder get stuck in the branches or spice things up with some comedy like, Rowan accidentally bumbs one other player with the ladder on his shoulder as he looks around to find a way over the wall, etc.
    I know that this is a comedy sketch, but I encountered this scenario so many times that it might help someone someday.
    Amazing work! Thank you all!

  • @wadysawkostrzewski8557
    @wadysawkostrzewski8557 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you for getting better and better film props you are so amazing with careful design and excellent craftmanship!

  • @marsmars2851
    @marsmars2851 3 місяці тому +1

    Every piece of torn paper if also a little piece of DM's soul.

  • @brianstraight9308
    @brianstraight9308 3 місяці тому +1

    This seems like a case of "something is so obvious a 2 is sufficient enough to notice it" or for a roll to be unnecessary kind of situation. Hell, this is a case of the DM just saying, "you have that ladder" even if it's in a bag of holding or something and you're not physically carrying it.

  • @DarkinWithin
    @DarkinWithin 3 місяці тому

    The end clip is great, I love how the guys are just at each other all the time.

  • @Aardvark892
    @Aardvark892 3 місяці тому

    I absolutely love the presentation of these videos. What a unique idea.

  • @wobblysauce
    @wobblysauce 3 місяці тому +1

    The good thing about unused places is that that can appear later on.

  • @thaddaeusrobinson4239
    @thaddaeusrobinson4239 3 місяці тому +1

    And that’s when the DM, who is ticked off that he will have to lose all of this story that he prepped just tells the player that he has a ladder

  • @nickwoo2
    @nickwoo2 3 місяці тому +2

    The reaction to animal friendship is the best.

  • @evco4426
    @evco4426 3 місяці тому

    This is such a funny and original content , one of the best things to happen on UA-cam imo. Thank you guys

  • @Mermaidkilla
    @Mermaidkilla Місяць тому

    This is your best series so far imo, I love it!

  • @ilajoie3
    @ilajoie3 3 місяці тому +1

    I'm going to agree with Adam about him being the best D&D player. He takes notes, knows what his abilities are, and gets involved with the role playing

  • @XTRMNTR2K
    @XTRMNTR2K 3 місяці тому +1

    "Is that a ladder in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" - Always wanted to say that.
    But to be fair, I guess you can put a ladder away so well you don't notice it immediately. Simon the Sorcerer used to put ladders in his sorcerer hat all the time (if anyone still knows the old point 'n click adventure games, particularly the first two which were actually good).

  • @michael_pilot
    @michael_pilot 3 місяці тому +3

    At least Rowan retrieved his grandmother's hammer

  • @chefcc90
    @chefcc90 3 місяці тому +1

    Yup. Totally within the realm of reason that those 4 wouldn't notice a ladder... In their hands!!

  • @druid_zephyrus
    @druid_zephyrus 3 місяці тому +1

    Thats why sometimes you dont make them roll and you just gotta tell them