You saying there are not a lot of ROM sites anymore makes me think you have zero understanding of the internet and that topic lol…there are not only more ROM websites now than before but they are way safer to use
My favourite Nintendo fact is that they have a character named Bowser, a company president named Doug Bowser and a hacker named Gary Bowser. Stranger than fiction for sure.
@@dampkingI've never met or have seen anyone named Kirby, I think. The only other Kirby I remember is my old vacuum from 2006. I had no idea Kirby is a common name. Maybe in Japan? I have met a few Mario's here in the states though. That's hilarious though. They would name one of their characters after one of their lawyers. Lol
And it sure as hell isn't """possibly death threats""" when it's pretty clear they were intended to be I love Wavy but it's really weird how often he does this
It's like when those guys on To Catch a Predator would show up. They'd always whine that "it was just talking!" but then Chris would ask "Then why did you show up here with beer and condoms??"
@@thestraydog jeff stacy immediately comes to mind hahaha remember when he sent the decoy the dick pics of someone else's dick that he found on the internet?
There are no equal right, specialy when the counter part is a multi billion corporation. If they want information from you they will charge you with anything, give you even life sentence, People dont care about the truth, information that someone was charged with something is there enouth for them, and after a mounth of jailtime they will show up and offer you a deal.
One of your family member is missing? Fret not! Report them to Nintendo for using Pikachu as their phone wallpaper and they’ll be found in less than a week!
@@therealevilmudbug Damn, I can't believe they took their own life by slitting their own throat with a chainsaw, taking seven different kinds of poison, and being drawn and quartered by two horses running in opposite directions all at the same time. You never know what kinds of demons someone has 😔
@@Drakkona123 This happened to my friend recently. Bro took a bleach bath while simultaneously throwing a toaster into the tub and stabbing himself several times in the groin, while him and the bath were wrapped in a cloth and shoved down a very steep and rocky hill
@@Drakkona123 You never can understand what somebody is going through, my good friend used an online emulator then commited suicide by stabbing themself 18 times in the groin, 13 times in the rib cage, 12 times in each limb respectively, and 32 times in the skull with a Japanese army knife, and he flung himself down a staircase 10 times and jumped out of the window of a 32-story complex I'm so sad that they would commit suicide 😢
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500Aw man, hate reading all these tragic events. Knew an Oli M who had something eerily similar happen, though it was chalked as a freak accident. Big on gardening and foraging, often combining these with his love of astronomy in his spare time via artworks. The “what ifs” of otherworldly life. Went out on one of his usual forages in the local woods, it being a great time of the year for mushrooms. Never came back. When he was eventually found - what was left of him anyways - it was so bizarre that there weren’t any leads to go by. His autopsy detailing 8 superficial puncture wounds, 16 bone fractures and breaks (one of them being the femur! OUCH!), 32 blunt force traumas and a shocking 64 lacerations all over his body (some seemingly defensive wounds). And all this came after he emulated a single copy of Metroid. What are the odds?
I still don't understand why console manufacturers don't sell their own emulators, and make it easy to buy digital copies of games for the consoles they no longer produce.
Sega has done this to an extent. Their Genesis collection on steam contains all the ROM files unencrypted so you can choose to play on a different emulator if you want, although the catalogue is not comprehensive. They even have Steam Workshop support enabled so you can play ROM hacks in an official capacity.
They are as of late. Konami, Capcom, Sega, SNK, Namco, and Nintendo have all released ways of playing SOME of their games on modern systems. Though Nintendo is the worst/most variable in terms of emulation quality because they do it in-house rather than through devs like M2, Digital Eclipse, HAMSTER, or Code Mystics like the others do. The problem is whether it's due to licensing, lack of interest, or hardware issues (ie lack of 2 screens for DS/3DS games), it's all still a fraction of a fraction of their actual libraries and each platform's library in general and are usually (at least in the case of VC/NSO) pretty barebones. Like, outside of dodgy online mp there's nothing noteworthy about NSO. You can't even do relatively simple stuff like remove sprite limits.
@@futurehistoryarchaeologist4480 SEGA and Namco have been releasing legacy collections ever since the Saturn/Playstation era. And that's not counting cool stuff like the 3D Ages games or the 3D classics on 3DS SEGA had M2 make. It's clear their legacy is very valuable to them. Probably because Sega's modern output is a pretty mixed bag. On an upswing atm, but still mixed.
Are you kidding? They're not dangerous at all. In fact they go out of their way not to act constantly. Like for example when modern vintage gamer told people how to pirate Nintendo switch games they sent them a stern letter rather than suing the ever loving you know what out of him. Japanese copyright lawyers are working for people who do not enjoy conflict. They're not American lawyers. American lawyers on the other hand will sue you and they will win. These people did not have their lives ruined by anyone but themselves
I've never even heard of loveroms and I downloaded nintendo roms for 20+ years now I do remember EMUROMS ♥ :) - I thank them for letting childhood me play Kirby Crystal Shards when I couldn't afford it
Courts are about money people that are killed or rap.ed only really get money out of it e.g family get the money if killed also rap.e normally only goes to court if a baby or if the person that did it has money to get however sadly real rap.e victims do not get the justice they are owed since a lot of people cannot blindly believe them due to the fakers just after money or that they changed their mind after getting pregnant and do not want their family shaming them due to other persons religion or race a lot of innocent black people in jail for example because do not want their family shaming them for dating a different race.
famous people get away with crimes all the time such as sports stars due to the news or politicians calling the victims liars and making the famous criminals out to be heroes when they are scum.
I mean the outcomes of the shooting and CP case make it a bit hard to get mad at even if you are one to make a martyr out of the fucking snakes at Xecutor.
As someone who has known Gary Bowser for years, He has been released from Prison a few days ago and back in Canada with friends. There were some false rumors that he is barred from going online. We just spoke to him and can confirm he is out.
Doesn’t matter how much of a joke they thought it was. Going from Ohio to Mass with two long guns and all of that ammo with how strict Massachusetts gun laws are there’s absolutely no other reason they would have brought all of that just as a “crude joke.”
“Long guns.” Thanks for letting us know you have zero knowledge of firearms without telling us. The only “gun” you may have is probably between your legs
Not defending them at all or saying I don't think they had bad intentions but that wasn't very much ammo for someone who is a recreational shooter. Two boxes of .223 ammo would run out fast granted the shotgun ammo was more significant. I could realistically see someone dumb enough to make the jokes they made being dumb enough to not look into the gun laws in Massachusetts and just leave all their shooting gear in the car when going on a trip. Having said all that I don't believe that they had zero intention to do something bad after registering at the event, they were probably on the fence because they were afraid but wanted to do it.
@@acmhfmggru Perhaps that state has specific restriction to that kind of firearm? I don't know about the specifics, but having an assault rifle with all that ammo could be justified and be legal? I mean, you can have a revolver, a shotgun, but an assault rifle? Dunno.
@@jorami4838 Threatening to shoot up a party and making a pew pew joke are different. Also, it is an expression. It means he's a buzzkill and takes things too seriously.
26:41 I am really glad you mentioned the Ganondorf statue. It was a large misconception with so many people thinking it was given to him by Nintendo. News outline can be dumb sometimes, in this case they literally made stuff up. Also as a little note, he also got the statue from egx because he spend more money for Nintendo games during anyone else for a month.
there is nothing ironic about it unless he or his parents or an ancestor changed his/their last name to Bowser specifically to get on Nintendo's good side or at least to express their love for the company why can't people learn what words mean Edit: 26:37 a correct use of the term right after I wrote this comment? The sheer irony! Me purposefully misusing the term immediately after calling someone out for it? Sarcasm!
@@NCCalvin9 i figured that would be the reason, the second they’re told about it they’d be sued for, i’m guessing, nearly $50k by the looks of things, and that’s putting it lightly (it also depends on how much money the company grossed but they’re a relatively small company so it won’t amount to too much) no company however is too small for nintendo to sue
Worth noting that a the vast majority of the hacking/modding scene (if not the entirety of it) despised Bowser and Team Xecuter because they were strictly for-profit. One thing you'll learn very quickly in the hacking, modding, and emulation scene is that it is a community that values open-sourcing and collaboration, and Xecuter being for profit meant they were totally unwilling to share ANYTHING with the hacking scene purely for the sake of being able to line their pockets, because the minute regular hackers in the community figured out exploits their tech became obsolete. So basically, the only people that liked them were non-tech-savvy people strictly looking for easy piracy and willing to pay for it. Everyone else hated them. So while his punishment was ABSOLUTELY overblown, not a many tears were shed in the hacking scene when they got busted. A lot of people were even happy to see them finally get axed... me leaning more towards the latter. It's a weird case where both the hacking community and Nintendo are happy to see hackers behind bars. They aren't Martyrs to us like a lot of commentary channels have made them out, they're rats that finally got what they had coming to them.
I mean who cares? They made money off things they were good at, how is that bad? Just cause they didn't wanna give away all their secrets for free? There are many others in the community could turn to rather malding over a single group. I hope more for profits groups pop up, wanna see the community seethe more.
@@garypinholster1962 Yes, but they could have still done that while making their tools accessible. It's not like the existence of 3DS/DS hacking has killed the entire market for things like R4 cards, it's just *_diminished_* the demand. Literally monopolizing exploits for periods of YEARS helps nobody but yourself. I'm not one of those in-denial cringy dudes that acts like piracy and game preservation isn't at least a core motive for most efficient hackers and devs, but piracy was literally all Xecuter's tools were good for. Most of them couldn't even run homebrew (not that that's a particularly big loss, but still) because despite their claims opening up the console to anyone was never the goal.
Thanks for giving me the proper reference. The video is very intact and informative. Gives a straightforward line of events and shows the seriousness of Ninty. Great Job!!!
You forgot the part about how Gary bowser is the fall guy for a faceless pirating organization. Don't get me wrong I'm all about pirate and games and movies, but they charge for their services and they make you ironically pay a subscription fee to use their software… while by passing other people subscription fees to use their software.
@@mrconroy4672 The hacking scene has NEVER liked Xecutor. They never shared any of their exploits with the community, STOLE from the homebrew and hacking community, built ransomware into their devices, and it was all being done purely for profit. They're fucking snakes that finally got stepped on. Bowser is basically ratting the rest of them out for a lighter sentence, which is to be expected given the charges are things like wire fraud and money laundering on top of piracy. This isn't just a "hacker piracy" case, this like legit criminal activity that just happens to involve hacking. I'm in favor of hacking and piracy, but I'm glad to see those dudes get what they've had coming after so long.
Yeah... If they were just providing ROMs, they'd have more leeway and community support. Obviously it wouldn't save them from legal punishment based on the examples in this video, but it would be less likely for the punishments to be this severe. Replicating and providing hacks for company products that you don't own, and trying to profit from it is just asking to have the book thrown at you. You can't even make the claim of "the pirates likely wouldn't buy the game anyway", because the hacker group was charging for their services. Sure, it probably wasn't as much as it would've been if someone bought every individual game they had, but still. The punishment Gary Bowser got is way too much, but I can't have complete sympathy for the guy. He's also a guy in his 50s that's been doing this for years, not some young kid or young adult hard-up for cash or some junk. I wonder if his associates always intended to use him as a fall guy, or if they just took advantage of the situation to save themselves.
They didn't provide "services", they provided a product. Do you expect to be able to get a physical electronic dongle for free? 🤨 GameShark, ActionReplay, etc. were all paid products. (Making it a subscprtion is indeed a dick-move though, I HATE anything "as a service". 😠)
@@flarestorm9417 Cracking companies are often like this. SlySoft built their entire company on cracking DVDs, and then used some really hardcore DRM to protect their cracking software and had the most disgustingly hypocritical attitudes towards people who pirated their pirating software. 🙄
Bro... I feel for the detectives on the Ryan case. Just imagine being already stressed out trying to apprehend that guy, then unexpectedly having to see that horrible shit. What a monster.
@@Aspartamebraintumor Who would do that, and why though? The guy had around 1000 images in a dedicated folder, and where would he get it from? I could imagine someone getting illegal material by it being thrown in with other contents they're downloading (e.g., downloading pirated films from a sketchy website). However, that implies you're already doing something shady to start with, and if the guy was simply trying to hack Nintendo, where would that material come from? The guy was already set to be charged for his hacking activities, so there'd be no reason for Nintendo or the FBI to set the guy up like that.
@@flarestorm9417 there was a reason: the FBI warned him once, and he repeated the offense and mocked the FBI while he was at it. Who do you think has the most ceepee? answer: the gvrmnt
You missed the part were Gary Bowser and Team Xecuter stole the work of the homebrew community for their criminal operation, the only original work they really did was the ransomware they added that would brick your system, they were afraid people would steal their stolen hacks, ironically.
Just like Slysoft and Goldenhawk. Slysoft used rootkits to protect their DVD cracking software and Goldenhawk would destroy you CD-Rs. Disgusting hypocrites.
@@ddjsoyenby people who weren't familiar with them saw the headlines about it and (since it happened just after they striked that dude's channel for modded BOTW content) just assumed they were victims because they already had a hate boner on. That said, what they did to that dude is complete and utter bullshit, but its VERY different from Xecuter finally getting busted.
All of these people did. Nintendo hasn’t done anything no other company has done. It’s just Nintendo is something people care about as compared to a shoe company or whatever.
I wouldnt say the second one was people who "lost everything to nintendo". They lost everything to their own decisions. And that one person who had a few conversations with the guy saying "he's a chill guy who likes to joke around" does nothing for me. Ive heard enough stories of people who thought they knew someone incredibly well for years and then all of a sudden they learn that their friend/family member is a serial killer or committed fill-in-the-blank horrible offense. Just the presence of the guns and ammo in their car says all it needs to. And why is it seemingly so important for some people to defend "jokes" like this? Just saying the words is enough in my mind.
It's one of those "they were good to me" situations. "This person was nice to me, so that must mean they were nice to other people too" which just isn't the case. You have horrid criminals that don't harm their family, but have no problem harming other people they don't know. And ultimately, you never truly know who someone is when you only see what they want you to see (e.g., influencers).
The punishment he received was onerous. He got 4 years and had to pay $10,000,000 even though he'd never really hacked anything and only earned $300,000. I think a year in prison and paying the money back, for a first offense, would be more reasonable. As for Kevin and James, I agree completely. If they were joking, why did they take the guns to the tournament?
I followed that case with Gary Bowser closely when it was going down. A friend of mine was part of Team Xecuter and was involved in all of that mess. He didn't spend any time in prison, but he did get sued by Nintendo for a hefty sum that he'll likely never fully pay off.
Don't worry... his descendents (if he has any) will continue to pay it off, if he doesn't have any there are his other relatives cousins/nephews/nieces and their descendents
Yeah he should have stopped after the slap on the wrist also im from Palmdale California so as soon as i heard he was from there i started paying attention to the case more
@@vexile1239your a fricked up person by implying that someones friend affected by something deserved it when tbh while I don't support full on piracy I do support emulation Nintendo took it way too far they couldve like not sued them that much or something (edit: ok I don't like them either now I look more into them apparently they were selling malware infested devices and as a white hat hacker nah frick that crap that's messed up)
Speaking of Australia, I remember hearing about this story where this game came out here first, and Nintendo being Nintendo forgot time zones existed and copyright struck them or something for playing their game “early”.
I'd have to know the specific incident you mean, but I do know that some people have claimed that was the case for a few games being leaked even though actually looking into it, it was too early to have just been a timezone thing
The Australia thing yeah we get games before the release date so its possible to play them before the date they are suppose to go for sale so not an actual time zone thing.
@@Elsa_Icywind ya they are greedy how by not putting there games on sale why would they where the older games are still hitting the top 10 charts at full price them cutting the price would just be a stupid business decision on there part
@@Elsa_Icywind You’re just saying that because you don’t own a company that people are stealing from. I guarantee if you own a billion dollar company and a group of people is hacking your stuff and selling your tech with you getting $0, you’re going sue too.
@@mrdude88 sure..im going to spend 250k or more per case on a corporate lawyer to sue some guy/team who made less than half a million stealing from me while im worth billions....guess I gotta set an example lol
That bowser story is crazy. 20 years per hacking charge? But ended up with only 40 months? Yeah, courts have WAYYY to much say in how much time a criminal serves. If that judge was in a bad mood, or corrupt he couldve sentenced Bowser to the rest of his life in a prison.
@@queenzoroark but they shouldn't have to either. Nobody is asking for Color a Dinosaur on the NES to be re-released. NO ONE. People on the internet, realistically are throwing a fit, because a ROM LIBRARY compiled from various sources across the internet is being hosted site by site as Nintendo takes them down. Games NOBODY intends to play every day of their lives. Games that NOBODY is asking to be re-released. And being accessed by people who have no actual interest in buying a Nintendo. Fuck them. They deserve what they get.
I’d say fan games get it the worse many people working hard on projects that could take months or years just for Nintendo to walk in and shut them down
this one. Nintendo has gotten it's reputation of shutting down everyone not because them going after hackers, but instead due to them completely closing down and often in a brutal manner, beloved fan games just because the concept or game was inspired or built Nintendo stuff.
For me, this is also a case of media overblowing fan games when they should be quiet. AM2R was in development for years and had downloadable versions for years. 2 or 3 days before release of the full version news outlets blasted this game as much as they could. Result: Taken down after 40 Minutes. Same with SM64s HD remake for the PC Or with Pokemon ... Monochrome(?) Tge list actually goes on.
@@ZOCCOK Beloved fan games? No more like blatant IP theft. You would defend a youtuber for being falsely copyright struck, yet you attack Nintendo for doing something about that. People like you are the problem with society
Will never get over the name Stumbo. Multiple people named Bowser being connected to Nintendo is infinitely less notable than simply being named Stumbo
I started using emulators and ROM back in 1994 as a kid. First time I've ever seen a company take issue about it. My understand of using ROM was as long as you owned the game is wasn't a problem. I haven't bother with ROMs for well over a decade. Kind of sad to hear the company did that in fear that some titles from my childhood may never be seen again.
It's legally a grey area. Owning the cart doesn't give you the right to download a ROM. You have the right to back up your copy of your software, but you don't have the legal right to reverse-engineer a cart to copy the ROM.
@@LockeNCole Realistically there is no way anybody could ever know you copied the content unless they were in your house with you watching you do it. So they can't really enforce making it illegal.
@@zayanything3124Move to Russia or China, and do it from there. Nintendo won't be able to touch you there. In fact, the Russian/Chinese government may even aid and abet you.
That swap note shit is probably why the switch and all future nintendo consoles will never have a message feature or voice chat or any communication of any kind ever again.
There's a porn video by Ron Jeremy called "Super Hornio Bros." Nintendo bought the rights to it to prevent the video from disseminating. Just think about that. Nintendo has the rights to a porn movie.
They don't have the rights to the sequel though. They resorted to buying it because it's protected by parody law, so they couldn't sue them or anything. and then I guess they just gave up upon realizing HOW MUCH porn is on the internet.
And still you give them your money, I assume. People always complain over predatory companies, but never draw the conclusion to not consume their products.
@@warumich7201 He is lying and probably still cucks himself to them. Sadly to most gamers if a company makes consistently good games, everything else they just won't care to much about. nintendo fans are alot more feverant then say any players who play EA or ubisoft are because those companys just make bad games, nintendo makes good games but everything else is bad. Gamers are the most spineless consumers in entertainment ever and they definitely deserve no respect.
Ironic, my son & myself were at that 2015 world championship. It was his 1st worlds competition. Also we had no idea about the whole thing till they were already had been caught
I find MOTHER 3 to be an intriguing case. Nintendo has to know the fan translation exists- and yet they do nothing. They acknowledge the existence of the game in Smash Bros and in a E3 Presentation. And yet they do nothing...
When I tell people I don't mess with Nintendo because they're deeply anti-fan and anti-consumer, I'm just going to link this video instead of going on a rant. Edit: The Pokemon Tournament story is unambiguously bad. Edgy jokes or not, talking about hurting people who just want to play a game is a bad thing.
Tbh, Japan has been notorious pro-copyright and Nintendo clearly reflects that. People do take it way too seriously and often side with the “community”although in reality there should be nuance.
This video has understandable legal actions. There are other videos covering how Nintendo has treated the smash community. Those would be better examples. Those where no one did anything illegal except love a game and want to have a tournament. Or modify a game for free to make it more fun.
A better example would have to be the Smash Community drama by Nintendo or the JoyCon Boyz edition JoyCon controllers where the money was going towards suicide prevention
The last story is the most interesting. For many years, it seemed no one had any problem with the plethora of ROM sites in the wild. They couldn't care less about the old stuff, and certainly had no interest in providing hardware to continue to play them. Then, when publishers finally got the lightbulb FROM those same websites for how they could make money out of thin air for their own previously-forgotten and discarded IPs, THEN they became litigious. It's one of those 'mysteries' that makes you wonder if some of the publishers actually WANTED the ROM sites to exist, to keep an underground of young people hooked on games...until the time it was no longer useful to them, and they had hardware and software positioned to make money from it.
Well they could by makign a superior emulator that runs on PC... and have it on steam and sell all the old games on steam... Be making money by the truckload.
“The copyright seers over at Nintendo almost immediately detected this disturbance in the force” had me crying laughing cause Nintendo really does not play
You do make a point; Ferrari is more like a cease and desist like Disney. Modify, create, or any form of copy and paste. Paint it with different colors or alter any of their prize possessions or best selling titles or popular "works of art" they try to sue anyone's ass.
Always found it funny that the company most protective of it’s massive library of games is also the same company who most promotes piracy by keeping that same library locked away behind impossible to purchase paywalls. Want to play a niche old game? You either pirate it or pay up big money in some cases to play the not for sale anywhere game. Nintendo gets nothing from either but happy to go after the pirates at the drop of a hat.
@@christopherbooth9452 Yes it is. I don't like it either, but it's their property. Basically what you and Shalom are saying is that you have the moral right to steal if the owner doesn't want to sell. It's amazingly stupid and entitled.
@@The-Man-On-The-Mountain There are a lot of nuances to copyright, fair use being one of them just to name an example (not that it applies here, just an example). Think about books and libraries: it is true book publisher have the right to manage their publications, but we still have public and private libraries with different reaches for people to access a lot of those books. There is an interest from the larger community to have access to general knowledge and history, so much so book publishers have deals to make books accessible to those spaces and many others. Im not defending book publishers, they are as greedy as the next bussiness owner, but these agreements exists and are understood as needed. These agreements also play to other scenarios: what happens if a publisher dissapears? are we losing books and therefore losing history? how do we avoid this? these are also libraries main focus. Now... apply that to games: aren't games worthy of public access? aren't games worthy of historical safeguarding? why book publishers and other media companies like movie producers can agree with these sort of agreements but videogames companies wont? are games then less valuable media. It is not only a black and white issue. There is a lot in which Nintendo is in the wrong here.
The fact that the "attempted" gunmen had people who thought 'ah, that's just them- making veiled threats & showing off their guns. Ha! What a character,' and NOT recognizing the bright red flags with kalxons blaring is ridiculously scary.
You'd be surprised that there are still people defending those two morons here in this very comment section. The story goes that "Yeah, They were very much joking. The gun and ammo was there because they also planned to go to a range after the event." Still, it's a godforsaken Yelling for a Bomb on a Crowded Theater. Those people are Grown-ups... Lucky they don't get the Feds to handle their kind of stupid edgy joke... They'd be hauled to Gitmo for inciting Domestic Terrorism
I am actually surprised SuperMarioLogan was able to go on for so long without them suing them And I also wouldn’t be surprised if they try to take this vid down Edit: thanks for making this my most liked comment on UA-cam
Funny thing is all Logan had to do was label every one of his videos as parody and put a age disclaimer at the beginning of them and his channel would'nt have gotten a cease and desist from Nintendo 😂 But he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He still complains that UA-cam never took down any other Mario parody channels 🤣
there's no reason for Nintendo to go after this video when it is meant to inform people of what will happen if they pirate Nintendo games or hack Nintendo servers
Do some research. Pokemon is not Nintendo's "second most valuable franchise behind Mario". Pokemon tops Wikipedia's list of most valuable media franchises of all time. Mario is all the way down at 45.
As a discord mod, I'm disgusted by discord mods ever possessing CP. And am scared that it's some kind of blatant curse that shall spread to me. Just remember to thank your local mod for making the server safe. And never speak to them about anything.
Ugh, I hate the fact people ruined swapnote. I loved just randomly chatting with people sharing pictures of my dog or accruing special stationary, and seeing people take pictures of where they were with a digital postcard.
@@mattwolf7698 Put it this way - there aren't any straight pride movements that are openly trying to force sexuality and sexual conversations onto young children.
I remember a time when Nintendo went after UA-camrs for not only using gaming footage but even still images. And these were people that was praising their games and even telling people to go buy it.
I’ve been living in Japan for 23 years. Believe me if I tell you that cops would literally show up at your door for downloading an episode of Dragon Ball.
@@GdpJapan That is pretty extreme for piracy. But it just doesn't make sense to me to take down videos that's pretty much promoting your games or hardware for free. Now there's companies paying content creators to review their products.
I vividly remember the Pokémon World Championships story, mostly because me and sone friends were planning on heading down to Boston for the event. We ended up not going because money was tight, but I saw that report on the news, I felt shocked and relieved. Shocked that someone would make threats like that, and relieved, both that it didn’t happen and I didn’t go.
Wavy is by far my favorite content creator. Dude just has a soothing voice that's pleasant to listen to, and he covers all the stuff I'd never thought I'd know about lmao. So thanks man, you're a real one 🤝🏼👋🏼
he should be more prosecuted for piracy of Nintendo's servers but he knew that the child porn would distract all very well, that's why he didn't bother with hiding it and he won't pay like Gary Bowser, lucky bastard
@@abrahamlupis9354as if being marked for the rest of your life as the piece of shit pedophile he is, isn't infinitely worse than any monetary punishment. There are many people out there that would be more than happy to murder a pedophile if they find out who they are.
@lsgaming2248 well this society offender is now a sex offender, and once you get the SA registry you aren't getting off, your criminal record might abolisged, but not the SA registry for obtaining CP
Ironically, Nintendo is a lot more modest and knows not to over-stretch themselves to expand. Nintendo always knows their bread and butter and will stick to that.
@@IamCanadian3333 also I’m pretty sure square enix is probably one of the gaming company who tried to screw over other game company that they work with ie tri-ace of star ocean and Valkyrie fame
I saw it coming when Gary Bowser was ordered to give up the names of his associates. People will say he should have remained loyal but prison is a pretty nasty place to be. Rock and a hard place scenario.
@@chattingesque372 No, it's criminal propaganda. The origins are from criminals threatening people so they don't get caught. "Being a man" and "committing a crime" are not the same thing, and there's no chance someone can snitch or rat on someone that hasn't done something wrong.
The issue is that you can't really trust he wouldn't continue committing crimes, like selling leaked copies of games prior to release or something. Also, the courts decided it was 10 million, Nintendo just gave them an estimate of the damages.
About MariCARS: I was in Japan a few months ago and I saw tons of those karts all over, but they were still wearing the Mario costumes. Happened too often to be a coincidence. Mario costumes all around.
Not really an accessory if he's a knowingly and willingly not just part of the group, but actively helping. He was helping them obtain materials and information to do the rest of the work as well as actively helping sell the finished products. An accessory would more be if he was just helping them hide or did nothing but make their website.
That pregnant pause after wavy said swapnote was updated to send audio (zoom in) and images. He looks into the camera as if we're face to face, like "listen dude, we both know where this is headed."
Speak for yourself. I've never seen a more delusional and battered fanbase in my entire life. It's like watching a domestic abuse cycle repeat over and over and over but you just stick around no matter what they do. Depressing.
@@Yurizor that you know and keep consooming only makes it worse. Because you don't care that they're an awful corporation and treat their userbase like shit so why should they stop? lol. I love how that was said as if it was a positive thing to be doing..
For some reason i got recommended this video now. The Gary Bowser section has some issues. 2:47 their hacking activities were not "extremely illegal." Nor is it the reason Gary was punished. What was illegal was that they pushed for piracy. 3:02 "black market retailers" again no. They were just retailers, because again, not illegal. 3:26 SXOS was not a product, it was a emunand rom for the switch 3:41 again not true, while they could be used for homebrew software this is NOT what they advertised it as. In fact this is how the current (again, not illegal) open source emunand rom advertises itself as. Team xecuter on the other hand, SPECIFICALLY ADVERTISED AND ENCOURAGED piracy (which is why Nintendo took them down)
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Thanks to wavywebsurf for making this video!
Bowser needs some Keeps too
How about some eye drops yikes
You saying there are not a lot of ROM sites anymore makes me think you have zero understanding of the internet and that topic lol…there are not only more ROM websites now than before but they are way safer to use
Gotta love a nintendo video
My favourite Nintendo fact is that they have a character named Bowser, a company president named Doug Bowser and a hacker named Gary Bowser. Stranger than fiction for sure.
And a Lawyer named kirby and a former employee called Mario
@@dampking kirby is a common name?
@@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters I only met one mario ever and never met a Kirby he’s reaching saying they’re common
@@dampkingI've never met or have seen anyone named Kirby, I think.
The only other Kirby I remember is my old vacuum from 2006. I had no idea Kirby is a common name. Maybe in Japan?
I have met a few Mario's here in the states though.
That's hilarious though. They would name one of their characters after one of their lawyers. Lol
"So long, Gay Bowser!"
ngl I've always thought in the back of my head the reason Gary Bowser was put in prison by Nintendo was SOLELY because he was named Bowser
genius marketing stunt if true
he should have sued them for ruining his life... id have claimed id been bullied since a kid because of their choice of an enemy...
i think he purposely made it misleading so more people would listen
That's honestly what I thought too. Makes a much more interesting story tbh.
@@ObiWanCannabi You can't sue someone just because they sued you.
It's not an edgy joke to bring two guns and that much ammo to a tournament. They had plans.
And it sure as hell isn't """possibly death threats""" when it's pretty clear they were intended to be
I love Wavy but it's really weird how often he does this
Agreed… 2 years seems real light for that. When they get out, with a felony like that on their record; enemies beware.
It's like when those guys on To Catch a Predator would show up. They'd always whine that "it was just talking!" but then Chris would ask "Then why did you show up here with beer and condoms??"
You know what, I don't want this Pokemon card, I just want to get to the beach.
@@thestraydog jeff stacy immediately comes to mind hahaha remember when he sent the decoy the dick pics of someone else's dick that he found on the internet?
Mario in Super Mario 64: so long gay bowser!
Nintendo: so long Gary bowser!
How did dude get a harsher punishment for hacking Nintendo than having CP?....damn.
There are no equal right, specialy when the counter part is a multi billion corporation. If they want information from you they will charge you with anything, give you even life sentence, People dont care about the truth, information that someone was charged with something is there enouth for them, and after a mounth of jailtime they will show up and offer you a deal.
There is no peace for the victim until the pedo is dead. Nintendo be damned, the law protects kid touchers.
Capitalism
They caught him the first time no cp he makes fun of them and the second time now magically there’s cp. the fbi is sketchy like that.
How you in trouble for having cerebral paulsey?
One of your family member is missing? Fret not! Report them to Nintendo for using Pikachu as their phone wallpaper and they’ll be found in less than a week!
Then they will immediately go missing again... for "Unrelated" reasons
@@therealevilmudbug Damn, I can't believe they took their own life by slitting their own throat with a chainsaw, taking seven different kinds of poison, and being drawn and quartered by two horses running in opposite directions all at the same time. You never know what kinds of demons someone has 😔
@@Drakkona123 This happened to my friend recently. Bro took a bleach bath while simultaneously throwing a toaster into the tub and stabbing himself several times in the groin, while him and the bath were wrapped in a cloth and shoved down a very steep and rocky hill
@@Drakkona123 You never can understand what somebody is going through, my good friend used an online emulator then commited suicide by stabbing themself 18 times in the groin, 13 times in the rib cage, 12 times in each limb respectively, and 32 times in the skull with a Japanese army knife, and he flung himself down a staircase 10 times and jumped out of the window of a 32-story complex
I'm so sad that they would commit suicide 😢
@@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500Aw man, hate reading all these tragic events. Knew an Oli M who had something eerily similar happen, though it was chalked as a freak accident. Big on gardening and foraging, often combining these with his love of astronomy in his spare time via artworks. The “what ifs” of otherworldly life.
Went out on one of his usual forages in the local woods, it being a great time of the year for mushrooms. Never came back. When he was eventually found - what was left of him anyways - it was so bizarre that there weren’t any leads to go by. His autopsy detailing 8 superficial puncture wounds, 16 bone fractures and breaks (one of them being the femur! OUCH!), 32 blunt force traumas and a shocking 64 lacerations all over his body (some seemingly defensive wounds). And all this came after he emulated a single copy of Metroid. What are the odds?
I still don't understand why console manufacturers don't sell their own emulators, and make it easy to buy digital copies of games for the consoles they no longer produce.
Sega has done this to an extent. Their Genesis collection on steam contains all the ROM files unencrypted so you can choose to play on a different emulator if you want, although the catalogue is not comprehensive. They even have Steam Workshop support enabled so you can play ROM hacks in an official capacity.
They are as of late. Konami, Capcom, Sega, SNK, Namco, and Nintendo have all released ways of playing SOME of their games on modern systems. Though Nintendo is the worst/most variable in terms of emulation quality because they do it in-house rather than through devs like M2, Digital Eclipse, HAMSTER, or Code Mystics like the others do.
The problem is whether it's due to licensing, lack of interest, or hardware issues (ie lack of 2 screens for DS/3DS games), it's all still a fraction of a fraction of their actual libraries and each platform's library in general and are usually (at least in the case of VC/NSO) pretty barebones.
Like, outside of dodgy online mp there's nothing noteworthy about NSO. You can't even do relatively simple stuff like remove sprite limits.
@@futurehistoryarchaeologist4480 SEGA and Namco have been releasing legacy collections ever since the Saturn/Playstation era. And that's not counting cool stuff like the 3D Ages games or the 3D classics on 3DS SEGA had M2 make. It's clear their legacy is very valuable to them.
Probably because Sega's modern output is a pretty mixed bag. On an upswing atm, but still mixed.
Yeah, like said above, Sega for example has their own legal emulator on Steam. But I guess that it's an absolute NO-NO for Ningreedo to do the same.
Idk might have to do with copyright shit
I've seen murderers get convicted to 3 years of prison or less
Seeing this man get 20 years for hacking is insane!
remember if theres no money involved they dont care
Mario has the soul of Diocletian
Really? Who got 3 years for murder...
@Ross-px9iy hm...
It doesn't seem like you're genuinely curious
Just wanting to contradict
Just research, you'll find the results
@@JessyingAround yeah I'm just asking for a source because he sounds ridiculous. Who got 3 years for murder?
There's no entity more dangerous than a Japanese copyright lawyer.
Unless it's China trampling on the copyrights.
Are you kidding? They're not dangerous at all. In fact they go out of their way not to act constantly. Like for example when modern vintage gamer told people how to pirate Nintendo switch games they sent them a stern letter rather than suing the ever loving you know what out of him. Japanese copyright lawyers are working for people who do not enjoy conflict. They're not American lawyers. American lawyers on the other hand will sue you and they will win. These people did not have their lives ruined by anyone but themselves
Yeah they could totally give the "cult of alien worshippers" lawyers a run for their money
I've never even heard of loveroms and I downloaded nintendo roms for 20+ years now
I do remember EMUROMS ♥ :) - I thank them for letting childhood me play Kirby Crystal Shards when I couldn't afford it
It's only Nintendo I don't see Fromsoft and Capcom suing anyone
The most mind-blowing aspect of this is that people involved faced greater penalties and prison time than rapists and some murderers
👀
Money is more important for the powers that be, that much is clear
Courts are about money people that are killed or rap.ed only really get money out of it e.g family get the money if killed also rap.e normally only goes to court if a baby or if the person that did it has money to get however sadly real rap.e victims do not get the justice they are owed since a lot of people cannot blindly believe them due to the fakers just after money or that they changed their mind after getting pregnant and do not want their family shaming them due to other persons religion or race a lot of innocent black people in jail for example because do not want their family shaming them for dating a different race.
famous people get away with crimes all the time such as sports stars due to the news or politicians calling the victims liars and making the famous criminals out to be heroes when they are scum.
the law exists to protect the rich and privileged
Bro hid illegal activity in a folder called “bad stuff”
300 iq play there
Proof that having technical skill doesn't make you intelligent about everything.
Well "income tax" was already a folder so....
lol
yea
😂😂😂
Yes, it's a very aptly-named folder.
Bro I fear nintendo so much ,I don't even purchase it legally.
ikr
👍🤣🤣🤣
Gary Bowser: "Today's the day I'm going to get out of prison!"
Nintendo: "I'm sorry, your appeals officer is in another prison."
Das funny
Underrated comment
I guess that was why they made King Koopa/Bowser into the main enemy of Mario, I gotta say that's clever....
So long, Gary Bowser
With that amount of ammunition, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt
Yah if it was a joke as they claim they would not have brought all that ammo. So crazy. Scary to think what they might do when they get out.
Yep. Joke or not, I have no sympathy for those who make terroristic threats.
@@THEDubbleHelixx agreed.
I mean the outcomes of the shooting and CP case make it a bit hard to get mad at even if you are one to make a martyr out of the fucking snakes at Xecutor.
You guy's funny, that's like 10 minutes on the range 🤣
As someone who has known Gary Bowser for years, He has been released from Prison a few days ago and back in Canada with friends. There were some false rumors that he is barred from going online. We just spoke to him and can confirm he is out.
Did the judge say "so long gai bao-sha" when sentencing him?
Send him kind regards from anon from the internet. Let him him know that there are people who respect him deeply.
All the best to Gary
Stop the cap. Why do you need to sit there and lie
@@hypnoticnexus24 I like people want to be completely idotic and believe fake as fuck youtube story's like this.
bullshit
14:52: "Your honor, my client did it for the vine."
Doesn’t matter how much of a joke they thought it was. Going from Ohio to Mass with two long guns and all of that ammo with how strict Massachusetts gun laws are there’s absolutely no other reason they would have brought all of that just as a “crude joke.”
“Long guns.”
Thanks for letting us know you have zero knowledge of firearms without telling us.
The only “gun” you may have is probably between your legs
yeah it’s not like they just had a pistol in the glovebox.. all that ammo is insane
Not defending them at all or saying I don't think they had bad intentions but that wasn't very much ammo for someone who is a recreational shooter. Two boxes of .223 ammo would run out fast granted the shotgun ammo was more significant.
I could realistically see someone dumb enough to make the jokes they made being dumb enough to not look into the gun laws in Massachusetts and just leave all their shooting gear in the car when going on a trip.
Having said all that I don't believe that they had zero intention to do something bad after registering at the event, they were probably on the fence because they were afraid but wanted to do it.
24:17
@@acmhfmggru Perhaps that state has specific restriction to that kind of firearm? I don't know about the specifics, but having an assault rifle with all that ammo could be justified and be legal? I mean, you can have a revolver, a shotgun, but an assault rifle? Dunno.
"I was just kidding about killing everyone"
"Ohhhh okay, why did you bring guns to a pokemon event?"
"Just a prank, bro."
That's exactly how it went down. Shootings aren't anything to joke about, so I'm glad both Kevin and James had put them in jail for that reason.
"I was just kidding! Herp derp." Idiots.
@@marissawolff8491 "Shootings aren't anything to joke about" You must be fun at parties.
@@WuwuWuwuTV I ain't inviting anyone who threatens to shoot up my party. tf
@@jorami4838 Threatening to shoot up a party and making a pew pew joke are different. Also, it is an expression. It means he's a buzzkill and takes things too seriously.
26:41 I am really glad you mentioned the Ganondorf statue. It was a large misconception with so many people thinking it was given to him by Nintendo. News outline can be dumb sometimes, in this case they literally made stuff up. Also as a little note, he also got the statue from egx because he spend more money for Nintendo games during anyone else for a month.
27:33 - Oh hey, that's me! 👋🏾
Funny to see a comment of mine during the Wii U years when I actively ran the subreddit.
Nobody cares
@@meisterwu8922 Cared enough to comment though...? 🤔
@@SylverstoneKhandrIgnore him, he's a troll
I cared
I love the sheer irony of the first hacker having the last name Bowser
coincidence*
there is nothing ironic about it
unless he or his parents or an ancestor changed his/their last name to Bowser specifically to get on Nintendo's good side or at least to express their love for the company
why can't people learn what words mean
Edit: 26:37 a correct use of the term right after I wrote this comment? The sheer irony!
Me purposefully misusing the term immediately after calling someone out for it? Sarcasm!
What makes it funniest is that his name is GARY Bowser. It's one off from Gay Bowser. So, it's SO LONG, GA(R)Y BOWSER.
whats even funnier is that the president of Nintendo of America is named Doug Bowser
@@DerRabenbardeOh my god you're so intelligent please have my babies
It is insane how Nintendo can ruin a mans life forever all the while being the only company to have stopped a shooting before it even began
Nintendo didn't really stop the shooting tho.
Xecutor got what they deserved.
@@NickyBlue99 elaborate.
Sounds like the most American thing ever
Jekyll and hyde over here I guess
Nintendo really just said “so long Ga(r)y Bowser” and threw him in prison.
😂😂😂😂 ok. That was clever
good one
nice
Aw pizza.
Supoib
there’s a barber shop near my neighborhood called “super mario” and i’m surprised to this day that it hasn’t need completely destroyed by nintendo 😂
Cuz Nintendo doesn't know tell them about that shop and it'll be gone within a week
@@NCCalvin9 i figured that would be the reason, the second they’re told about it they’d be sued for, i’m guessing, nearly $50k by the looks of things, and that’s putting it lightly (it also depends on how much money the company grossed but they’re a relatively small company so it won’t amount to too much) no company however is too small for nintendo to sue
Worth noting that a the vast majority of the hacking/modding scene (if not the entirety of it) despised Bowser and Team Xecuter because they were strictly for-profit.
One thing you'll learn very quickly in the hacking, modding, and emulation scene is that it is a community that values open-sourcing and collaboration, and Xecuter being for profit meant they were totally unwilling to share ANYTHING with the hacking scene purely for the sake of being able to line their pockets, because the minute regular hackers in the community figured out exploits their tech became obsolete. So basically, the only people that liked them were non-tech-savvy people strictly looking for easy piracy and willing to pay for it. Everyone else hated them.
So while his punishment was ABSOLUTELY overblown, not a many tears were shed in the hacking scene when they got busted. A lot of people were even happy to see them finally get axed... me leaning more towards the latter. It's a weird case where both the hacking community and Nintendo are happy to see hackers behind bars.
They aren't Martyrs to us like a lot of commentary channels have made them out, they're rats that finally got what they had coming to them.
What a bunch of assholes expecting to be compensated for their time and capital.
Tbf the one thing for praise about them is the fact it made it more accessible to the "normie" and easier to do than many other mods/hacks
I mean who cares? They made money off things they were good at, how is that bad? Just cause they didn't wanna give away all their secrets for free? There are many others in the community could turn to rather malding over a single group. I hope more for profits groups pop up, wanna see the community seethe more.
@@garypinholster1962 Yes, but they could have still done that while making their tools accessible.
It's not like the existence of 3DS/DS hacking has killed the entire market for things like R4 cards, it's just *_diminished_* the demand. Literally monopolizing exploits for periods of YEARS helps nobody but yourself.
I'm not one of those in-denial cringy dudes that acts like piracy and game preservation isn't at least a core motive for most efficient hackers and devs, but piracy was literally all Xecuter's tools were good for. Most of them couldn't even run homebrew (not that that's a particularly big loss, but still) because despite their claims opening up the console to anyone was never the goal.
Ok nerd
Ryan never heard the phrase “Don’t do something illegal while you are doing something illegal.”
Thanks for giving me the proper reference. The video is very intact and informative. Gives a straightforward line of events and shows the seriousness of Ninty. Great Job!!!
Good job getting the interview man
@@wavywebsurf Thanks. Means a lot coming from you.
21:48 dude who had CP got sentenced to less time than the dude who was selling game hacking devices? 🤦♂️
Right
You forgot the part about how Gary bowser is the fall guy for a faceless pirating organization. Don't get me wrong I'm all about pirate and games and movies, but they charge for their services and they make you ironically pay a subscription fee to use their software… while by passing other people subscription fees to use their software.
I have a horrid feeling that those people are going to turn against us long term.
@@mrconroy4672 The hacking scene has NEVER liked Xecutor. They never shared any of their exploits with the community, STOLE from the homebrew and hacking community, built ransomware into their devices, and it was all being done purely for profit. They're fucking snakes that finally got stepped on.
Bowser is basically ratting the rest of them out for a lighter sentence, which is to be expected given the charges are things like wire fraud and money laundering on top of piracy. This isn't just a "hacker piracy" case, this like legit criminal activity that just happens to involve hacking.
I'm in favor of hacking and piracy, but I'm glad to see those dudes get what they've had coming after so long.
Yeah... If they were just providing ROMs, they'd have more leeway and community support. Obviously it wouldn't save them from legal punishment based on the examples in this video, but it would be less likely for the punishments to be this severe. Replicating and providing hacks for company products that you don't own, and trying to profit from it is just asking to have the book thrown at you. You can't even make the claim of "the pirates likely wouldn't buy the game anyway", because the hacker group was charging for their services. Sure, it probably wasn't as much as it would've been if someone bought every individual game they had, but still.
The punishment Gary Bowser got is way too much, but I can't have complete sympathy for the guy. He's also a guy in his 50s that's been doing this for years, not some young kid or young adult hard-up for cash or some junk. I wonder if his associates always intended to use him as a fall guy, or if they just took advantage of the situation to save themselves.
They didn't provide "services", they provided a product. Do you expect to be able to get a physical electronic dongle for free? 🤨 GameShark, ActionReplay, etc. were all paid products. (Making it a subscprtion is indeed a dick-move though, I HATE anything "as a service". 😠)
@@flarestorm9417 Cracking companies are often like this. SlySoft built their entire company on cracking DVDs, and then used some really hardcore DRM to protect their cracking software and had the most disgustingly hypocritical attitudes towards people who pirated their pirating software. 🙄
Bro... I feel for the detectives on the Ryan case. Just imagine being already stressed out trying to apprehend that guy, then unexpectedly having to see that horrible shit. What a monster.
there's a good chance it was planted on there
@@Aspartamebraintumor Exactly what I thought too. Great way to ruin someone's life for good, and easy too.
@@Aspartamebraintumor Who would do that, and why though? The guy had around 1000 images in a dedicated folder, and where would he get it from? I could imagine someone getting illegal material by it being thrown in with other contents they're downloading (e.g., downloading pirated films from a sketchy website). However, that implies you're already doing something shady to start with, and if the guy was simply trying to hack Nintendo, where would that material come from?
The guy was already set to be charged for his hacking activities, so there'd be no reason for Nintendo or the FBI to set the guy up like that.
@@flarestorm9417 there was a reason: the FBI warned him once, and he repeated the offense and mocked the FBI while he was at it. Who do you think has the most ceepee? answer: the gvrmnt
@@Aspartamebraintumor sounds like some really petty sht.....
You missed the part were Gary Bowser and Team Xecuter stole the work of the homebrew community for their criminal operation, the only original work they really did was the ransomware they added that would brick your system, they were afraid people would steal their stolen hacks, ironically.
Truly the shitstains of the hacking scene. I hope they lose everything.
So pretty much like the creator of Sonic Gather Battle, right?
Just like Slysoft and Goldenhawk. Slysoft used rootkits to protect their DVD cracking software and Goldenhawk would destroy you CD-Rs. Disgusting hypocrites.
yeah people are waaaaaayyyyyy too merciful on them.
@@ddjsoyenby people who weren't familiar with them saw the headlines about it and (since it happened just after they striked that dude's channel for modded BOTW content) just assumed they were victims because they already had a hate boner on.
That said, what they did to that dude is complete and utter bullshit, but its VERY different from Xecuter finally getting busted.
The Ryan Hernandez story is disgraceful. He deserved having the whole law library thrown at him, not just one book.
All of these people did. Nintendo hasn’t done anything no other company has done. It’s just Nintendo is something people care about as compared to a shoe company or whatever.
@@stylevstar253Did you miss the part about the vast amount of CP he had?.. Thats why this commenter specifically pointed him out
@@stylevstar253 How's Miyamoto's boot taste, bucko?
I wouldnt say the second one was people who "lost everything to nintendo". They lost everything to their own decisions.
And that one person who had a few conversations with the guy saying "he's a chill guy who likes to joke around" does nothing for me. Ive heard enough stories of people who thought they knew someone incredibly well for years and then all of a sudden they learn that their friend/family member is a serial killer or committed fill-in-the-blank horrible offense. Just the presence of the guns and ammo in their car says all it needs to.
And why is it seemingly so important for some people to defend "jokes" like this? Just saying the words is enough in my mind.
It's one of those "they were good to me" situations. "This person was nice to me, so that must mean they were nice to other people too" which just isn't the case. You have horrid criminals that don't harm their family, but have no problem harming other people they don't know. And ultimately, you never truly know who someone is when you only see what they want you to see (e.g., influencers).
Executor seem like legends in the piracy scene. Its strange I haven't heard of them.
Yeah it's like, you know who else was a "chill guy?" Ted fucking Bundy.
The punishment he received was onerous. He got 4 years and had to pay $10,000,000 even though he'd never really hacked anything and only earned $300,000. I think a year in prison and paying the money back, for a first offense, would be more reasonable.
As for Kevin and James, I agree completely. If they were joking, why did they take the guns to the tournament?
I followed that case with Gary Bowser closely when it was going down. A friend of mine was part of Team Xecuter and was involved in all of that mess. He didn't spend any time in prison, but he did get sued by Nintendo for a hefty sum that he'll likely never fully pay off.
Gary Bowser was recently interviewed by Jack Rhysider if you're interested
Don't worry... his descendents (if he has any) will continue to pay it off, if he doesn't have any there are his other relatives cousins/nephews/nieces and their descendents
Yeah he should have stopped after the slap on the wrist also im from Palmdale California so as soon as i heard he was from there i started paying attention to the case more
@@vexile1239your a fricked up person by implying that someones friend affected by something deserved it when tbh while I don't support full on piracy I do support emulation Nintendo took it way too far they couldve like not sued them that much or something (edit: ok I don't like them either now I look more into them apparently they were selling malware infested devices and as a white hat hacker nah frick that crap that's messed up)
@vexile1239
Bullshit there's no way they could do that lol
Speaking of Australia, I remember hearing about this story where this game came out here first, and Nintendo being Nintendo forgot time zones existed and copyright struck them or something for playing their game “early”.
I'd have to know the specific incident you mean, but I do know that some people have claimed that was the case for a few games being leaked even though actually looking into it, it was too early to have just been a timezone thing
This right here is the scenario I expected from our law enforcement douches.
Was it zelda. Sounds like the zelda thing
@@reinlain6920 maybe not sure
The Australia thing yeah we get games before the release date so its possible to play them before the date they are suppose to go for sale so not an actual time zone thing.
the fact that nintendo had to sue a guy named bowser is crazy its almost like the enemy they created came back to get them 😂
could not have said it better myself!
tbh their company is a joke. they are the greediest company out there in gaming and its sad to see a once loved company be so greedy.
@@Elsa_Icywind ya they are greedy how by not putting there games on sale why would they where the older games are still hitting the top 10 charts at full price them cutting the price would just be a stupid business decision on there part
@@Elsa_Icywind You’re just saying that because you don’t own a company that people are stealing from. I guarantee if you own a billion dollar company and a group of people is hacking your stuff and selling your tech with you getting $0, you’re going sue too.
@@mrdude88 sure..im going to spend 250k or more per case on a corporate lawyer to sue some guy/team who made less than half a million stealing from me while im worth billions....guess I gotta set an example lol
That bowser story is crazy. 20 years per hacking charge? But ended up with only 40 months? Yeah, courts have WAYYY to much say in how much time a criminal serves. If that judge was in a bad mood, or corrupt he couldve sentenced Bowser to the rest of his life in a prison.
Yeah they sure grabbed him by the tail there.
Quite possibly some outside interference as well, a lot of recruitment for the whitehat world comes from dudes that get caught.
Did you listen to the video at all? He only got 40 months because he helped law enforcement apprehend the other members of Xecuter.
@@sholva6809 I mean even with that it's quite a plea deal lol
@@sholva6809 You're pretentious for no reason. My point still stands despite your weird outburst.
Nintendo is that person who says "these are my OC's. DO NOT STEAL!" but with actual power.
Not just Nintendo, all big development companies. They just don't get the same attention.
@@Kahadi Because they don't charge everybody who wants to emulate older games they don't sell anymore.
yea
Me when I discover copyright laws:
@@queenzoroark but they shouldn't have to either. Nobody is asking for Color a Dinosaur on the NES to be re-released. NO ONE.
People on the internet, realistically are throwing a fit, because a ROM LIBRARY compiled from various sources across the internet is being hosted site by site as Nintendo takes them down. Games NOBODY intends to play every day of their lives. Games that NOBODY is asking to be re-released. And being accessed by people who have no actual interest in buying a Nintendo. Fuck them. They deserve what they get.
I’d say fan games get it the worse many people working hard on projects that could take months or years just for Nintendo to walk in and shut them down
this one.
Nintendo has gotten it's reputation of shutting down everyone not because them going after hackers, but instead due to them completely closing down and often in a brutal manner, beloved fan games just because the concept or game was inspired or built Nintendo stuff.
@@ZOCCOK Exactly
For me, this is also a case of media overblowing fan games when they should be quiet.
AM2R was in development for years and had downloadable versions for years. 2 or 3 days before release of the full version news outlets blasted this game as much as they could.
Result: Taken down after 40 Minutes.
Same with SM64s HD remake for the PC
Or with Pokemon ... Monochrome(?)
Tge list actually goes on.
You don't own the IP, doesn't matter what pathetic story your fan game has, you don't own the right to make a Mario game
@@ZOCCOK Beloved fan games? No more like blatant IP theft. You would defend a youtuber for being falsely copyright struck, yet you attack Nintendo for doing something about that. People like you are the problem with society
I love how the sickest one (the kid hacker) gets the least punishment
Will never get over the name Stumbo. Multiple people named Bowser being connected to Nintendo is infinitely less notable than simply being named Stumbo
I thought they were saying "Dumbo!" LoL!
he looks like someone named stumbo
I started using emulators and ROM back in 1994 as a kid. First time I've ever seen a company take issue about it. My understand of using ROM was as long as you owned the game is wasn't a problem. I haven't bother with ROMs for well over a decade. Kind of sad to hear the company did that in fear that some titles from my childhood may never be seen again.
It's legally a grey area. Owning the cart doesn't give you the right to download a ROM. You have the right to back up your copy of your software, but you don't have the legal right to reverse-engineer a cart to copy the ROM.
@@LockeNCole Realistically there is no way anybody could ever know you copied the content unless they were in your house with you watching you do it. So they can't really enforce making it illegal.
I have a hard drive with all the NES and SNES rims on it. I’ll upload them to the internet before I die.
@@zayanything3124Move to Russia or China, and do it from there. Nintendo won't be able to touch you there. In fact, the Russian/Chinese government may even aid and abet you.
lol that was a BS thing that started back then for them to "get around" the copyright
That swap note shit is probably why the switch and all future nintendo consoles will never have a message feature or voice chat or any communication of any kind ever again.
Don't forget that sml almost got sued for using their plushies in youtube videos
There's a porn video by Ron Jeremy called "Super Hornio Bros." Nintendo bought the rights to it to prevent the video from disseminating. Just think about that. Nintendo has the rights to a porn movie.
They don't have the rights to the sequel though.
They resorted to buying it because it's protected by parody law, so they couldn't sue them or anything.
and then I guess they just gave up upon realizing HOW MUCH porn is on the internet.
Dosen't that make it cannon?
They actually owned several "love hotels" before they got into the video game business.
@@warbossgegguz679 Didn't stopped them from DMCA'ing a 3D model of Bowser's dick
Ron Jeremy = Mario 👀 🤯
Kevin: Prepare for trouble!
James: And make it double!
To destroy the world from Pokemon
As a lifelong Nintendo fan, i just wanna say (before i even watch the video) that i will NEVER forgive them for taking down Super Mario 35.
And still you give them your money, I assume. People always complain over predatory companies, but never draw the conclusion to not consume their products.
@@warumich7201 No actually I don't.
@@warumich7201 Warum ich? Soll doch wer anders nicht für mich konsumieren
@@tommymclaughlin-artist Ok, I assumed because you said life long fan. My bad.
@@warumich7201 He is lying and probably still cucks himself to them. Sadly to most gamers if a company makes consistently good games, everything else they just won't care to much about. nintendo fans are alot more feverant then say any players who play EA or ubisoft are because those companys just make bad games, nintendo makes good games but everything else is bad.
Gamers are the most spineless consumers in entertainment ever and they definitely deserve no respect.
Ironic, my son & myself were at that 2015 world championship. It was his 1st worlds competition. Also we had no idea about the whole thing till they were already had been caught
I'm a simple Nintendo fearing gamer, nothing compares to its wrath, no horror comes close to Nintendo's punishment.
The Mouse is just as bad. Don't mess with the mouse! (Mickey Mouse)
skill issue tbh
Don't steal and you won't have to worry about anything, its not hard to anyone with an IQ above 10
i'm someone who laughs in the face of Nintendo, piracy for the win babeeyy!!
Play gba games on your phone 👍 (real)
They really treated Doug Bowser like a final boss 😂
I couldn’t imagine if something would have went down at 2015 worlds, that would have been tragic for the community
there would have been so many basements left empty
@@Tymelost 💀
I find MOTHER 3 to be an intriguing case. Nintendo has to know the fan translation exists- and yet they do nothing. They acknowledge the existence of the game in Smash Bros and in a E3 Presentation. And yet they do nothing...
Probably because they have no intention of localizing Mother 3 regardless
Shigesato Itoi is some kind of defender of the earthbound fandom fangames and fan translations
That one voice clip always ages like wine:
“You don’t f@&k with-a Mario”
An Italian plumber who takes mushrooms and moonflowers, no shit!
Racist mario is literally canon
When I tell people I don't mess with Nintendo because they're deeply anti-fan and anti-consumer, I'm just going to link this video instead of going on a rant.
Edit: The Pokemon Tournament story is unambiguously bad. Edgy jokes or not, talking about hurting people who just want to play a game is a bad thing.
Tbh, Japan has been notorious pro-copyright and Nintendo clearly reflects that. People do take it way too seriously and often side with the “community”although in reality there should be nuance.
Why do people still buy their games, or even defend them?
Addiction? Stupidity?
This video has understandable legal actions. There are other videos covering how Nintendo has treated the smash community. Those would be better examples. Those where no one did anything illegal except love a game and want to have a tournament. Or modify a game for free to make it more fun.
A better example would have to be the Smash Community drama by Nintendo or the JoyCon Boyz edition JoyCon controllers where the money was going towards suicide prevention
How is the first dude anti consumer or anti fan??
It’s literally just crime
The last story is the most interesting. For many years, it seemed no one had any problem with the plethora of ROM sites in the wild. They couldn't care less about the old stuff, and certainly had no interest in providing hardware to continue to play them. Then, when publishers finally got the lightbulb FROM those same websites for how they could make money out of thin air for their own previously-forgotten and discarded IPs, THEN they became litigious.
It's one of those 'mysteries' that makes you wonder if some of the publishers actually WANTED the ROM sites to exist, to keep an underground of young people hooked on games...until the time it was no longer useful to them, and they had hardware and software positioned to make money from it.
Well they could by makign a superior emulator that runs on PC... and have it on steam and sell all the old games on steam... Be making money by the truckload.
This is the first time I have ever seen one of your videos and I actually thought you were Mcauley Culkin for a second
“The copyright seers over at Nintendo almost immediately detected this disturbance in the force” had me crying laughing cause Nintendo really does not play
Disney is even worse.....
its 1am in australia and im watching this, life is good
Wow it’s only 11:15 am here in the us
Oh hey! It’s 6:00 am here!
5 pm here
Fuckin oath brotha.
What does time and location have to do with anything 😊
Nintendo is like the Ferrari of video game companies. You show off
one thing about their products/content, and they're coming after you.
You do make a point; Ferrari is more like a cease and desist like Disney. Modify, create, or any form of copy and paste. Paint it with different colors or alter any of their prize possessions or best selling titles or popular "works of art" they try to sue anyone's ass.
Don't be a disgusting thief then
the word such behavior is 'fascist'
more like tesla, can’t record for 10 secs in their buildings
@@LethalBubbles yes but with money and legal power makes anyone or anybody powerless.
Nintendo: "don't make us not family friendly "
Also Nintendo: "we're going to officially release manhunt 2 with motion controlled executions "
Nintendo knew that making an example of the guy named Bowser would go viral enough so that people wouldn't soon forget it.
Always found it funny that the company most protective of it’s massive library of games is also the same company who most promotes piracy by keeping that same library locked away behind impossible to purchase paywalls. Want to play a niche old game? You either pirate it or pay up big money in some cases to play the not for sale anywhere game. Nintendo gets nothing from either but happy to go after the pirates at the drop of a hat.
Nice victim blaming.
@@DeeperWithDiego yes lmao because Nintendo is suuuuch a victim from someone downloading a 20 year old rom 🤡🤡🤡
It's called "Japan"
@@christopherbooth9452 Yes it is. I don't like it either, but it's their property. Basically what you and Shalom are saying is that you have the moral right to steal if the owner doesn't want to sell. It's amazingly stupid and entitled.
@@The-Man-On-The-Mountain There are a lot of nuances to copyright, fair use being one of them just to name an example (not that it applies here, just an example). Think about books and libraries: it is true book publisher have the right to manage their publications, but we still have public and private libraries with different reaches for people to access a lot of those books. There is an interest from the larger community to have access to general knowledge and history, so much so book publishers have deals to make books accessible to those spaces and many others. Im not defending book publishers, they are as greedy as the next bussiness owner, but these agreements exists and are understood as needed. These agreements also play to other scenarios: what happens if a publisher dissapears? are we losing books and therefore losing history? how do we avoid this? these are also libraries main focus. Now... apply that to games: aren't games worthy of public access? aren't games worthy of historical safeguarding? why book publishers and other media companies like movie producers can agree with these sort of agreements but videogames companies wont? are games then less valuable media.
It is not only a black and white issue. There is a lot in which Nintendo is in the wrong here.
“A man so notorious he was wanted by the fbi” I was so ready for the “hacker known as 4chan”
Nintendo is the type of company to sue Italy for naming their children "Mario"
It's always a good day when wavywebsurf uploads
On god
Amen, brother
Your life must be trash then
The fact that the "attempted" gunmen had people who thought 'ah, that's just them- making veiled threats & showing off their guns. Ha! What a character,' and NOT recognizing the bright red flags with kalxons blaring is ridiculously scary.
Hile, gunslinger! 👉
@@randallflagg6271 Thankee Sai! Long days & pleasant nights~
You'd be surprised that there are still people defending those two morons here in this very comment section.
The story goes that "Yeah, They were very much joking. The gun and ammo was there because they also planned to go to a range after the event."
Still, it's a godforsaken Yelling for a Bomb on a Crowded Theater. Those people are Grown-ups... Lucky they don't get the Feds to handle their kind of stupid edgy joke... They'd be hauled to Gitmo for inciting Domestic Terrorism
'Muricans.
I thought the same thing. People being like "oh he's a nice guy really!" are deranged and they are questionably just as fucked in the head.
I am actually surprised SuperMarioLogan was able to go on for so long without them suing them
And I also wouldn’t be surprised if they try to take this vid down
Edit: thanks for making this my most liked comment on UA-cam
Funny thing is all Logan had to do was label every one of his videos as parody and put a age disclaimer at the beginning of them and his channel would'nt have gotten a cease and desist from Nintendo 😂 But he isn't the sharpest tool in the shed. He still complains that UA-cam never took down any other Mario parody channels 🤣
there's no reason for Nintendo to go after this video when it is meant to inform people of what will happen if they pirate Nintendo games or hack Nintendo servers
Logan’s channel definitely would’ve lasted longer if he never made “Jetty’s Bad Word” or any other infamous episodes.
Oops, I meant Jeffy.
@@Luigislotsaspaghetti You can just edit your initial comment.
Do some research. Pokemon is not Nintendo's "second most valuable franchise behind Mario". Pokemon tops Wikipedia's list of most valuable media franchises of all time. Mario is all the way down at 45.
I'm not surprised that the hacker who collected CP was a Discord mod.
As a discord mod, I'm disgusted by discord mods ever possessing CP. And am scared that it's some kind of blatant curse that shall spread to me.
Just remember to thank your local mod for making the server safe.
And never speak to them about anything.
@@AnjnShan you just reminded me how you can hide zip files within image files using CMD. now that's some nostalgic paranoia...
Ugh, I hate the fact people ruined swapnote. I loved just randomly chatting with people sharing pictures of my dog or accruing special stationary, and seeing people take pictures of where they were with a digital postcard.
Never name your kid Mario if you don't want to get sued by Nintendo
No, name them Mario. Just make sure they don't become hackers, sexual predators, or potential mass murderers
@@Kahadior plumbers
@@Kahadi Hey now, you're not allowed to criticise sexual predators this month.
@@superscatboy So in your mind LGBT people and predators are the same?
@@mattwolf7698 Put it this way - there aren't any straight pride movements that are openly trying to force sexuality and sexual conversations onto young children.
Every time I think I'm not going to like a topic of your vids, you prove me wrong. Thanks for your content. I genuinely look forward to it.
Pokemon forum moderator saved so many lives, I bet they never expected to be a hero when they became a mod
I remember a time when Nintendo went after UA-camrs for not only using gaming footage but even still images. And these were people that was praising their games and even telling people to go buy it.
They still do that sadlu
Nintendo is stupid for doing that! It's free advertising for Nintendo!
@@CatherineLee3000 exactly just coz they can strike stuff that doesn't mean they should
I’ve been living in Japan for 23 years. Believe me if I tell you that cops would literally show up at your door for downloading an episode of Dragon Ball.
@@GdpJapan That is pretty extreme for piracy. But it just doesn't make sense to me to take down videos that's pretty much promoting your games or hardware for free. Now there's companies paying content creators to review their products.
Kevin and James should have stayed fused and continued making comedies with Adam Sandler
I was looking for a comment like this. LOL
@@everlynevins 🤣 their potara earrings must have broke
They're not supposed to speak, though.
I vividly remember the Pokémon World Championships story, mostly because me and sone friends were planning on heading down to Boston for the event. We ended up not going because money was tight, but I saw that report on the news, I felt shocked and relieved. Shocked that someone would make threats like that, and relieved, both that it didn’t happen and I didn’t go.
Wavy is by far my favorite content creator. Dude just has a soothing voice that's pleasant to listen to, and he covers all the stuff I'd never thought I'd know about lmao. So thanks man, you're a real one 🤝🏼👋🏼
Nintendo made me loose my T.V from wii bowling
skill issue
Sounds like it was just you that lost it. 😂 not the TV, just in general
Wii buy new tv's
krill issue
Wii would like to play with your wee and bowling balls.
Named after the villain of nintendo's mainline series, Bowser had no choice but to live up to his name
There was a Nintendo employee named Bowser too, even Kirby lol
Nintendo used his name to spread the news easily
Ryan didn't really how easy the feds let him off, they showed mercy, gave him a second chance, and he got worse after the fact
he should be more prosecuted for piracy of Nintendo's servers but he knew that the child porn would distract all very well, that's why he didn't bother with hiding it
and he won't pay like Gary Bowser, lucky bastard
@@abrahamlupis9354as if being marked for the rest of your life as the piece of shit pedophile he is, isn't infinitely worse than any monetary punishment.
There are many people out there that would be more than happy to murder a pedophile if they find out who they are.
lets be honest best thing that ever happen was him hacking them the 2nd time and getting busted with the cp before he decided to act
@lsgaming2248 well this society offender is now a sex offender, and once you get the SA registry you aren't getting off, your criminal record might abolisged, but not the SA registry for obtaining CP
Nintendo has a lot of similarities to Disney as their company and how they handle their corporation
Ironically, Nintendo is a lot more modest and knows not to over-stretch themselves to expand. Nintendo always knows their bread and butter and will stick to that.
Great minds think alike.
It's too bad people cannot stop dickriding, and thus condone the behavior
Except Nintendo still makes good games
And apples
You’ll never see a company that has a strong of a grip with their intellectual consoles as nintendo
Laughs in Disney
Wand of Gamelon has entered chat
Square Enix is another that comes to mind.
Oh em gee! They don't want people messing with products that they put money, time, and work into?! The horror!
@@IamCanadian3333 also I’m pretty sure square enix is probably one of the gaming company who tried to screw over other game company that they work with ie tri-ace of star ocean and Valkyrie fame
Don’t forget Stephen, who was suspended for school when his mustache deemed that you get the wario steam
I saw it coming when Gary Bowser was ordered to give up the names of his associates. People will say he should have remained loyal but prison is a pretty nasty place to be. Rock and a hard place scenario.
People say a lot of things. This notion that you shouldn't "snitch/rat" on criminals is propaganda FROM CRIMINALS. 😒
@@I.____.....__...__ not necessarily. It's more about being a man.
@@chattingesque372 No, it's criminal propaganda. The origins are from criminals threatening people so they don't get caught. "Being a man" and "committing a crime" are not the same thing, and there's no chance someone can snitch or rat on someone that hasn't done something wrong.
@@Kahadi no it's not honorable to rat people out, you take your punishment like a man
Rotting in prison to be a man sounds easier said than done.
Ya kno what, Nintendo should hire Gary as their new international marketing PR guy. Just lower that 10mill though, sheeesh.
The issue is that you can't really trust he wouldn't continue committing crimes, like selling leaked copies of games prior to release or something. Also, the courts decided it was 10 million, Nintendo just gave them an estimate of the damages.
Mirroring this video offline in case Nintendo comes after our boy wavy.
I used to enjoy those rom websites, some still exists now but can't spill the names or nintendo will go and haunt them
About MariCARS: I was in Japan a few months ago and I saw tons of those karts all over, but they were still wearing the Mario costumes.
Happened too often to be a coincidence. Mario costumes all around.
As a 90s kid that grew up on Nintendo this was incredibly interesting. Thanks Wavey!
Be
Edit- oops
As a 70s old man i was a kid in the 80s and early 90s who enjoyed Nintendo.. so i have you beat.....
Wait.. this isnt a competition.. im old now 😭
The Garry Bowser story should have been a charge for being an accessory to a crime
Not really an accessory if he's a knowingly and willingly not just part of the group, but actively helping. He was helping them obtain materials and information to do the rest of the work as well as actively helping sell the finished products. An accessory would more be if he was just helping them hide or did nothing but make their website.
@@Kahadi doesn’t wavy say in the video that maintaining the website /was/ his only involvement?
crazy how there is a limit to how much a company has to pay but when it comes to 1 dude he owes 10 million to an already rich company.
That pregnant pause after wavy said swapnote was updated to send audio (zoom in) and images. He looks into the camera as if we're face to face, like "listen dude, we both know where this is headed."
LOL.
I played the OG Nintendo back in the 80s, 90s, 00s, 10s, and now the 20s. That's all I need. Mario Bros and Duck Hunt.
2002 baby here, but I grew up on the NES. I never really got the chance to play duck hunt. The zappers never worked. 😂
@@HenryDaNinthThe zapper gun does work you probably broke the one you had
@@lightning13clair29 they were busted by the time I was conscious enough to know how to use them
Wavy, been loving these longer videos lately! they're great to listen to while I drive around at work. keep it up! you've been killing it lately!
Mans went from video game piracy to playing a role in the hangover series
Trust me, even Nintendo fans are very aware how notoriously harsh Nintendo has been.
Agreed, some people really think we wouldn't know, but we simply don't care.
Speak for yourself.
I've never seen a more delusional and battered fanbase in my entire life.
It's like watching a domestic abuse cycle repeat over and over and over but you just stick around no matter what they do.
Depressing.
@@Yurizorwe know you know and thats why these companies continue to do what they do because they also know.
If you keep buying their stuff and calling yourself a fan, they will keep doing this.
@@Yurizor that you know and keep consooming only makes it worse. Because you don't care that they're an awful corporation and treat their userbase like shit so why should they stop? lol.
I love how that was said as if it was a positive thing to be doing..
reminder that gary bowser got a harsher sentence than some murderers...
and RyanRocks
It's an FBI thing to force cooperation in exchange for lighter punishment. Which is exactly what's happening.
1.6 years please name a murderer who got that light sentence aside from juveniles
For some reason i got recommended this video now. The Gary Bowser section has some issues.
2:47 their hacking activities were not "extremely illegal." Nor is it the reason Gary was punished.
What was illegal was that they pushed for piracy.
3:02 "black market retailers" again no. They were just retailers, because again, not illegal.
3:26 SXOS was not a product, it was a emunand rom for the switch
3:41 again not true, while they could be used for homebrew software this is NOT what they advertised it as. In fact this is how the current (again, not illegal) open source emunand rom advertises itself as. Team xecuter on the other hand, SPECIFICALLY ADVERTISED AND ENCOURAGED piracy (which is why Nintendo took them down)
False . This isn’t Reddit . Unalive you
only a yt boy can threaten a shooting, bring guns and ammo to a crowded event, and still be seen as a super chill guy who was just joking around.
Whatever, wokie :P
@@tylerdurden4392 white
@@tylerdurden4392dumb response further proving his point, thanks
@@eg4374 You don't like white people? Wayciss!
@@CatastrophicConundrum Thank YOU for attempting to use punctuation ;)