Native American Perspective On The Civil War // Diary of GW Grayson
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2022
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Extracts taken from:
Grayson, G. W. (1988). A Creek Warrior for the Confederacy: The Autobiography of Chief G. W. Grayson. The Civilization of the American Indian series. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press.
Edited by Manuel Rubio
Art by Alex Stoica
Sketches and Art by Alfred Waud
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Can you do a video of what other natives thought when another tribe slaughtered them to get the territory in the Black Hills
@@mariobadia4553 If any documents exist of personal accounts I’m sure he would but none may exist.
If it's free, you're the product. I bet they're profiling the heck out of you to sell to the highest bidder. Like UA-cam, then.
@@ximono they also only giving you the news and advertising they want you to see.
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The Choctaw people hold a very special place (as do all of the First Nation people) in the hearts of the people over here in Ireland.
When word spread around the world of the plight of the Irish during the Great Famine of the 1840s the Choctaw people sent us $170 ( around $12,000 today ) to help alleviate the hunger.
Coming from a place where discrimination and rampant land theft by an aggressive foreign power was a regular occurrence, the Choctaw people recognised our plight as theirs.
We never forgot what they did for us ( In our eyes ALL First Nation people are our kindred spirits ) so when the pandemic hit America, and we saw how the Navajo people were suffering the most an appeal was set up here in Ireland for our historic brothers and sisters which raised over 2.5 million Euros ( around 3 million dollars ) to help.
We were all so grateful to finally be able to return the love and kindness shown to us in our darkest hour all those years ago.
Peace to all
Greetings from rainy Ireland ;-)
Not so much, but even this showed their care. Beautiful to think it happened
I worked with Navajo teens in Gallup New Mexico as a counselor. You will be glad to know that my ancestors are mostly Irish coming over during the great famine. I do believe the Native peoples and the Irish have a special affinity. I feel as if the Navajo are my people. Thanks for your comment. I was aware of the history you recounted.
Fun fact: The last Confederate General to surrender was a Cherokee named Stand Waite.
Other fun fact; there’s statues and memorials to this guy in my town!
@@ProfessorShnacktime Really? Where?
@@glane3962 I don’t wanna absolutely dox myself lmao, let’s say I live near to the capital of the Cherokee. As Principal Chief he was an important figure (not a statement to his moral character). We have a lot of monuments to important Cherokee figures, there’s a statue of Sequoyah at the university.
@@ProfessorShnacktime I understand and thanks for the info!
I didn’t know he was recognized anywhere because the fact the confederates kept fighting after Lees surrender isn’t well known. 👍🏻
@@glane3962 No problem. :) I love sharing Native American and Oklahoman history.
As a descendent of Confederate Veterans and Choctaw people, this was a real treat to hear. My Great Grandfather married a Choctaw woman and after the war lived on Nation land in Oklahoma then in Northern Mississippi. Thank you for telling this story.
@Black Lesbian Poet lol. No they were not.
@Black Lesbian Poet lol stop trolling or at least try to do a better job at it
@Black Lesbian Poet lol wtf bruh at this point I just laugh when I see stuff like this lmao!!! 😂👌🏾
@@KeiPyn24 You fell for a troll dude.
@@KeyserSoze23 lol indeed 😆
I’m a Muskogee Creek (Mvskoke), it’s well known in OK that a lot of tribes sided with the Confederacy, and if they didn’t it’s because they had an enemy tribe they wanted to fight so they joined the Union. Not so fun fact; a Cherokee force enacted a racial purge of black people from Wagoner, Oklahoma. Many were killed or arrested.
It's brave and honorable to acknowledge that. No amount of wrongs make a right, but we need to be brave and call out atrocities young and old, no matter who is guilty. Humanity is flawed, not any one race or variety but all of mankind has the potential for darkness.
@Nik Nikkersoon Yeah context is important! Still something worth sharing, considering nearly nobody I know ever talks about it. I learned it only from small local Oklahoma history books.
It's almost like every society has made mistakes.
@@ProfessorShnacktime keep spreading what you learn. History is always worth knowing.
Siyuu friend, good to see come creeks on UA-cam ✌️
This channel’s content is always a gift.
Listening while working and tuned out for a second... The first thing I heard after refocusing was "I'm not sure if we had the strength to strangle these men to death." Definitely went back to see what I missed.
that intro gave me chills. to put life and limb just to prove the haters wrong sounds so badass and romantic
Yeah leaving your wife and kids behind to fend for themselves is alpha as fuck broooo
@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unitit was wartime
What an interesting diary of a well spoken man observing and reporting the events about him with a clarity seldom found.
Thank you.
Was trying to find words to convey my appreciation of this video and the individual when I happened upon your comment.My sentiments precisely.
Literally joined because people made fun of him for not fighting. Guess that explains why Lee didn't just refuse to fight, pacifism wasn't a respectable position to take.
Peer pressure
Oh you'd be shocked even in ww2 it was taboo for a able man to not be serving my grandpa actually recalls being made fun of for not serving he was 14 lol
A lot of people are goaded into joining. I met one in the Army myself. He became an EOD tech, and served brilliantly.
imagine having to join under the current commander in chief lol
@@lilwerner1518 lmfao
I'm ashamed to admit that I was unaware that the southern Indians involvement in the war was so extensive.
That's a gap in my education that I will soon rectify. Thank you.
It also can be the educational agenda depending on where you live
I was about to watch something different, but Voices of the Past uploading a video from such fascinating perspective has priority.
Also, I love the style of this relation.
Grayson's book isnt very large, but its fascinating. Ironically, there are no muster rolls that show Grayson ever served, even though he definitely did. William Holland Thomas, that is pictured was a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokees in NC, neither he or the unit he lead served in the Indian Territory. The photograph at 21:00 are members of Thomas' Legion -aka 69th NC Inf. The photo at 15:06 is Pleasant Porter as young man.
My Cherokee Great-grandfather is is on the Dawes Roll. His grandfather fought on both sides of the civil war
This man was an incredibly talented writer. This reads more like a novel than an historical account.
I am so glad you used Alfred Waud’s art and even image, but I am sad he is not credited.
Have credited now - thanks for pointing it out.
Thank you for the reply and quick fix, I do love your videos!
GW certainly had a unique literary style.Loved it ,thanks for bringing it to us all.
You have a rare narrating voice, no matter where these stories were lived, it's always easy for me to become immersed in their world
This is fascinating! I never really thought about the role of Native Americans in the Civil War. Hearing them fight for the Confederacy is intriguing, and while the first-hand account is great, I really want to know what the larger political motivations were. Did they view themselves as part of the South? Did the Confederates view them as citizens? Or were they perhaps offered a better treaty than the Union government gave them? Did they own slaves? I'll have to do some more reading into it.
A good few Indians owned slaves and most of the rest had no shortage of bones to pick with the federal government.
They owned a good amount of slaves, and the South just like the Dems of today probably promised them the world when really just using them
Yes they had slaves and the Union has to March into Oklahoma to free them.
Something you won’t find in history books mainstream.
To be incredibly reductive - some owned slaves, some thought the confederacy would give them a better deal as allies or to be autonomous states, and some just really wanted revenge on the Federal Government. (Missed a lot but these three I remember being big points when I covered it in uni)
The majority of English-speaking Christian Indians were from ‘the 5 civilized tribes;’ the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw. These were agricultural, populous societies that retained a larger population after white settlement. They were deported from their homeland in the southeast to Oklahoma by Jackson, despite being well-integrated into antebellum society.
I had to look at that thumbnail twice, the font made me think it was a Greek warrior in the civil war o0
Haha, that's exactly how I read it too at first
This is Spartanburg!
Some of the best history content on UA-cam. You are keeping the past alive, keep up the fantastic work.
Not gonna lie thought the thumbnail said A Greek Warrior at first and was very confused for the first two minutes of the video
"Wdym we have to buy cotton from the Ottomans?" -Greece, probably
I appreciate how back then people would also take daft picture of themselves too.
-They probably had to stand there for a little while though for the picture to be taken, which really shows their commitment to the bit _🙏_
The artistic renderings are exquisite - they really depict the horrors of war on the men and their horses.
I'm from northeastern Oklahoma and have visited most of the battle sites mentioned on multiple occasions; the skirmishes in what was then Indian Territory were frequent and bloody affairs.
U needa post more my guy🫡💯
Supporting the algorithm! May this go viral
Its always makes History so real to hear what the people were thinking
Always excited when I see you upload
Always happy to see a new video from you.
One of my favourite channels. Thank you for all that you do.
I always look forward to this series, excellent stuff.
"Endeavour to persevere! And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union" - Lone Watie
Favorite channel by far.
I am absolutely so excited to watch this video - I know how high quality all of your works are.
It's great to get these sorts of perspectives. Thank you so much for uploading this!
This is such a great channel. Thank you for your inspiring hard work
I’m so glad you’re still making videos. So many history channels that’s haven’t uploaded in over a year
Awesome content, thanks for all of these first hand perspectives
As always, an amazing a unique sliver of history. I learn so much from these videos.
This is awesome! I'm part Creek and the native perspective of the American Civil War is usually looked over. Keep up the good work!
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Just another supportive comment. Very happy UA-cam recommended this to me. Your channel is a lucky find. Thanks for the work in the detail. Very entertaining. 🤙🏼🙏🏼
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thanks for retelling another wonderful account.
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Should do the Camarão Indians' letters someday, recently there came a new translation. It's the only piece of written old tupi, and about the Dutch - Brazillian colonial conflict from tupi perspective
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Yass so happy to find another channel of this story telling voice
Another great video! Thank you!
Love your content as always!
excellent choice of source material
Thank you for this compelling account
Thank you for having a rich taste in music, the song in the beginning is beautiful. For anyone searching it’s blood in the bayou by river lume and spearfish.
Very cool. Thanks for uploading.
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This is a wonderful channel, and so revealing. All the suffering throughout history, and yet, we never seem to learn. All of these historical documents to remind us, and yet we don’t read them, in schools. It would be easy to fix. But there aren’t enough people, who comprehend this, sadly, for the human species to evolve past the need for war.
We learn A LOT. We're not naked cannibals fighting with spears & mocking the doomed victims, but have 2,000+ years of civilization behind us and as a group, constantly improve through the ages. Disturbing to me is the recent fashion of discarding hard won cultural & social knowledge.
Many 1st worlders aren't well enough educated at home to appreciate their journey & protect the values that brought us here, 3rd worlders want what we have in goods, but likewise couldn't care less about the reasons we achieved what we did.
Self gratification alone will never achieve anything positive for humanity and there'sthe impetus for war: Greed. We think a lot alike I suppose 😊
Excellent narration.
There's something about this people's perspective take on history that I enjoy very much.
Great content, as always.
Glad to see this thanks for the story keep up the good content
Jeez, I really liked this one. A pinhole to the history of the beautiful land we now occupy.
Good stuff. Keep it coming
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More than top notch content once again.
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Love these videos
Please do more ❤
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Awesome as always!
Will you do any serbian or south slavic sources?
Love these
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Good work!
Very interesting perspective
17:45 is the absolute most badass thing that I've ever heard.
Something I never even knew I needed.
This was amazing
I like that you put Dixie in the background!
Very interesting video.
It’s worth noting that most of the photographs and prints seen here are from the eastern theater; mainly in and around Virginia.
For instance, the photograph at 10:30 is a photograph taken in Fredericksburg, Virginia sometime between 1862 and 1863. It’s a rare example of a photograph taken by a confederate photography team as the south had very few photography teams.
Many of the others were taken either within the Army of the Potomac or the Army of the James between 1862 and 1865.
What a great story!
Took ten days to find this memoir what a time capsule.
Now this is something I have never thought about, interesting.
Love this
Extremely interesting!
I love the eloquent and elliptic Victorian prose.
I was literally thinking about this.
Excellent
Already one of my favorite accounts and I found it yesterday
Dear Voices of the past,
Would you consider making a video about Iron Age India, or the Greek-Bactrian Kingdoms? They are very interesting subjects and I feel are often overlooked in history. If you would ever like help making or researching videos I would love to help
Where did you find that rendition of “Dixie?” It’s quite beautiful.
I recognize that acoustic music at the end can you advise what it is? It's driving me nuts! Great video as always.
Always enjoy these unbiased first accounts of historic events.
I wouldn't necessarily say it's an "unbiased" account but rather a first hand account. Humans are biased, to us this is a historical artifacts and document but to the author it's his diary and his writings about what he thinks and feels. It's "biased" in favor of the author and his experiences, and how he remembers something that happened.
@@noco7243 I can see that
@@noco7243 - I took the "unbiased" statement to mean the video creator not interjecting his own views in the retelling.
I don't know if that's how the OP intended it, or not, but that has merit.
Love this account
A series I recently watched called The English reminded of this.
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