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Debating the Encomienda System and Its Abuses: The Valladolid Debate. APUSH TV

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  • Опубліковано 27 вер 2017
  • Learn about the Valladolid Debate- a debate about the merits of the Encomienda System between Bartolome de las Casas and Juan Sepulveda.
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  • @igortynatomas1678
    @igortynatomas1678 3 роки тому +6

    To those who study for Profant's exam tomorrow, good luck!

  • @draftsman67
    @draftsman67 6 років тому +9

    Although there was no official "verdict" that would indicate the winning side, it must be remembered that since the debate was happening after the New Laws ("Reyes Nuevas") were introduced. Oppressing the indigenous people and forcing them to work was prohibited. Since that was the status quo, reversing it was Sepulveda's intention and lack of direct action triggered by the debate should be considered as a proof of De Las Casas win.

  • @SergioGarcia-my2zi
    @SergioGarcia-my2zi 2 роки тому +3

    The English, the French, the Dutch or the Belgians were never that scrupulous and did not doubt a minute what to do.

  • @RitoWarrior
    @RitoWarrior 2 роки тому +1

    wow i have to watch this for my APUSH class on my birthday 😭

  • @noel7777noel
    @noel7777noel 8 місяців тому

    "The masters of slaves worked too hard to relinquish their wealth to slaves" is a oxymoron.

  • @larryrodriguez7169
    @larryrodriguez7169 2 роки тому +2

    I think native got shafted

  • @Drzahman
    @Drzahman Рік тому

    But what about laws of burgos and elisabeths testament??

  • @connorfrankston5548
    @connorfrankston5548 4 роки тому +5

    Nobody won but the indigenous peoples certainly lost. The ambiguity of who won the debate was mirrored by the bureaucratic discretion of future conquistadors who refused to follow the New Laws. Conquistadors were only punished for their activity (now formally crimes against the Spanish crown) if they were unsuccessful in acquiring a source of bullion and slave labor for the state. For example, Cortes was retired to a lavish estate, while Coronado was officially prosecuted. Sepulveda's arguments were certainly untempered (how could they be from within such an authoritarian state?) and in many cases extremely ironic--for example, he cites that the Indian peoples were subservient to their chiefs and payed high taxes to them as evidence for the Indians' "natural slave" state, but this exact same activity was happening in Spain. His arguments were predominantly religious as opposed to cultural, and as far as I can tell much less intellectual than they were dogmatic propagandisms. I think the debate between Las Casas and Sepulveda illustrates how religious arguments can be used by ideologues to justify just about anything.

    • @SergioGarcia-my2zi
      @SergioGarcia-my2zi 2 роки тому +1

      You have no idea and are totally biased, maybe because of your anglo saxon background. You refer Spain as "such an authoritarian state" - actually Castilla because the Spanish crown did not exist yet, you know. Anyway, what is the basis to say Spain (Castilla) was such an authoritarian state? Would any "such an authoritarian state" stop they conquist to debate about moral and legal things? Maybe in comparison to other European countries, like England, where Catholics and other Christians were prosecuted and killed, so did Elizabeth I, as her sister did before against protestants, as her father did before against Catholics. Do I have to remember many English escaped to America because of religious intolerance from "such an authoritarian stete", England? All what you say is totally irrelevant. Besides, you say "the indigenous peoples certainly lost". Well, I say, "the indigenous peoples certainly won" because the hypothetical widrawal of the Spanish would have meant that the English or the French would have come some years later and would have killed them all without any moral debate in the middle. Instead, Spanish conquistadores quickly interbreeded and married indigenous people which accounts for the racial diversity in the Americas. By the way, slavery and segregation existed in anglo saxon America until very very recently and segregation was always in English colonial India.

    • @connorfrankston5548
      @connorfrankston5548 2 роки тому +2

      @@SergioGarcia-my2zi whoa, I am not making any comparisons to Anglo Saxon states. You are the one who is doing that. England and company were just as authoritarian, I am not defending the British crown. I’m sorry but I think it’s insanely clear where the bias lies here. I’m neither Anglo nor Saxon-I’m Slavic and Swedish!

  • @jevalo7640
    @jevalo7640 4 роки тому

    Hanade suvtythulohs

  • @albertoalejandrelara515
    @albertoalejandrelara515 2 роки тому

    Very bad video. The encomienda system was NOT just for the Spanish. Indigenous nobles and African conquistadores also had them. Thumb down.

    • @sjappiyah4071
      @sjappiyah4071 Рік тому

      It seems that you’re mad because you don’t want the accountability to be on the Spaniards but rather wish to deflect the blame on indigenous & African people.
      Seems like you just have an acknowledgment problem.
      Whilst it’s true that certain Indigenous lap dogs of the Spanish received inconmendias , the INSTITUTION itself was created and imposed by Spaniards.
      Additionally, “African conquistadors” were SLAVES of the Spaniards majority of the time, whether sailors or soldiers they forced to participate in these activities.
      And the ones that were free naturally adopted the system imposed by their masters.