Giuliano Cameroni - Off the Wagon (8C+/V16)

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • Giul doing the 4th ascent of Off the Wagon (No wagon) an historical problem in Val Bavona, Switzerland, found by Dave Graham and FA'd by Shawn Raboutou.

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  • @EmilAbrahamsson
    @EmilAbrahamsson 3 роки тому +715

    Gotta say, that fall outside the pads made my heart skip a beat. Thanks for letting us see the process behind this! Amazing effort and send, inspiring

    • @SpartaSpartan117
      @SpartaSpartan117 3 роки тому +34

      How long until we see you on this?

    • @BiskitBandit
      @BiskitBandit 3 роки тому +3

      Even though I thought your comment had me prepared, I was still not prepared to actually see it O.O

    • @tylerheitmann1758
      @tylerheitmann1758 3 роки тому

      When you get on this boulder, I think it'd be interesting to see you try the Charles Albert barefoot toe crimp method. ua-cam.com/video/cVSC9vIb-PU/v-deo.html

    • @chuffer595
      @chuffer595 2 роки тому +1

      @@SpartaSpartan117 We have now seen him on this

    • @SpartaSpartan117
      @SpartaSpartan117 2 роки тому

      @@chuffer595 homie has got to send I hope!

  • @Ididathing
    @Ididathing 3 роки тому +175

    Such a great boulder! Good work!

    • @unclecaravan
      @unclecaravan 3 роки тому +18

      heh you're that guy

    • @philipegoulet448
      @philipegoulet448 3 роки тому +9

      Surprised to see you here! Love your content!

    • @bosfbanksy7673
      @bosfbanksy7673 3 роки тому +18

      Knew you were a climber. Your forearms don't just get jacked forearms by themselves

    • @rupertcotter4701
      @rupertcotter4701 3 роки тому +7

      Surely do some kind of climbing related shenanigans on IDAT

    • @JordyaMattson
      @JordyaMattson 3 роки тому +4

      i knew you climbed! i could tell by haw shredded you actaily are!

  • @TrackpadProductions
    @TrackpadProductions 3 роки тому +93

    I _never_ get tired of Off The Wagon send footage.

  • @dannyj1983
    @dannyj1983 3 роки тому +166

    Giuliano has an amazing, unique climbing style. I think it comes to life on boulders like this that are powerful but very precise and technical. Maybe he doesn't have the raw strength like Jimmy or Daniel, he seems to see the boulder in a creatively expressed way; a lot more like Dave Graham. Amazing to watch these top-tier technicians sus a boulder out like no one before.
    And I agree with another commenter. Footage of this Boulder never gets old.

    • @chrissmithdoe2100
      @chrissmithdoe2100 3 роки тому +2

      i wonder whether jimmy or daniel could even climb it this way? I feel like they have so much tension in their body that they couldn't use their feet like this - such delicate footwork like on a vertical...

    • @dannyj1983
      @dannyj1983 3 роки тому +7

      @@chrissmithdoe2100 They might be able to climb it this way. But they might not see it this way.

  • @nicolasjeannet1063
    @nicolasjeannet1063 3 роки тому +69

    He reminds me a lot of Dave Graham in this vid. His body and the way he moves, wizard technique over crazy strenght.

    • @JahNug
      @JahNug 3 роки тому +3

      I dunno, he pretty much cut loose and traversed the whole line of micro crimps, he must have some unbelievable finger strength

    • @iamliam42
      @iamliam42 3 роки тому +12

      @@JahNug The traditional way to do off the wagon is with an insane campus rose move on those same crimps. His method with the heel and matching was a lot less reliant on raw power. Although I agree that his finger strength and regular strength are still totally unbelievable.

    • @Synthysizer
      @Synthysizer 3 роки тому

      @@iamliam42 the way he did it in this video seems to be the modern method that at least a few other climbers have used as well.

  • @thewateringwiz7118
    @thewateringwiz7118 3 роки тому +91

    Damn... that dry fire during the cross move looked terrifying ! Congrats on the send !

    • @TheMatthewGoodacre
      @TheMatthewGoodacre 3 роки тому +1

      Daniel woods did this exact beta

    • @thewateringwiz7118
      @thewateringwiz7118 3 роки тому +2

      @@TheMatthewGoodacre Shawn used that beta too ! I initially thought Giuliano was gonna succeed with new beta where he initially goes for the crimp/pocket before starting the campus traverse

  • @nottherealjk
    @nottherealjk 3 роки тому +50

    Amazing effort and incredible climb. Really goes to show what a visionary Sharma was for finding that line over 15 years ago.

    • @alexantone5532
      @alexantone5532 3 роки тому

      I thought nalle FA’d it?

    • @nottherealjk
      @nottherealjk 3 роки тому +6

      @@alexantone5532 He most certainly did, but he wasn't the one who found it, originally attempted it, and named it. Thankfully Nalle still called it Off the Wagon even after nabbing the FA. Still one of my absolute favorite boulders ever even after seeing Dosage so many years ago.

    • @aspzx
      @aspzx 3 роки тому +34

      @@nottherealjk Dave Graham found it before Chris. There's footage in the Reel Rock film "Born among Boulders" of him trying it and he even says "Chris would like this boulder".

    • @nottherealjk
      @nottherealjk 3 роки тому +14

      @@aspzx Ah thanks man. Learn something new every day. Figures the wizard would have found it. He is a magician like that.

    • @SpartaSpartan117
      @SpartaSpartan117 Рік тому +1

      This Boulder is a who who's. Found by Dave Graham, beta pioneered by Chris Sharma, FA'ed by Nalle; sit by Shawn

  • @callum8792
    @callum8792 3 роки тому +15

    Can't wait for the Dave Graham Hypno footage! Must be a good one

  • @lukasschalk
    @lukasschalk 3 роки тому +12

    Had to rewatch the other mellow sends because I remembered the dyno move looking SO much harder... amazing how your feet stay on and how different the climbing looks. So nice, congrats!

  • @wismattman
    @wismattman 3 роки тому +5

    Congrats! 8 min video for us 6 years for you. It may be hard for some to see how amazing that is, not only the grade but just to keep at it for that long, working through everything that comes with climbing including injuries and real life. Amazing feat

  • @alonsorodriguez652
    @alonsorodriguez652 3 роки тому +4

    Sick send! in love with the quality of al mellow videos

  • @alecsyogacorner
    @alecsyogacorner 3 роки тому

    Cruuuuuushed it. What a privilege to get to watch your process here. Congrats on the send Giuliano!!!!!!!!!!

  • @jlehm
    @jlehm 3 роки тому +8

    When you’re too weak to hold the lock off, but so damn strong you grab holds that aren’t even there. Sick send!!!

  • @diegosebastian2226
    @diegosebastian2226 2 роки тому

    Giuliano quickly became one of my favourites to watch. Incredible, incredible technique and an almost-spiritual approach to climbing, right up my alley.

  • @yellowclimbingofficial
    @yellowclimbingofficial 3 роки тому +9

    "doued!" so sick. has to be one of the coolest lines in the world.

  • @MF-CLIMB
    @MF-CLIMB 3 роки тому +7

    Another great dude to footage time ratio from Mellow. DUDE.

  • @benruefmedia
    @benruefmedia 3 роки тому +2

    What an amazing projecting process. So many heartbreaking moments and then he made the send look effortless

  • @HT_rider
    @HT_rider Рік тому

    The progression was great! Loved how the battle was documented. Great vid

  • @samuelchow6474
    @samuelchow6474 3 роки тому +18

    The amount of skin care happening in 1:15 is tight.

    • @rock_your_boat
      @rock_your_boat 3 роки тому +1

      Also the amount of weed smoking... 😂

  • @vaughan6562
    @vaughan6562 3 роки тому +2

    Been waiting for this one !!

  • @Sammuell82
    @Sammuell82 3 роки тому

    love this longer form battle with a project ! more please !

  • @danflak6363
    @danflak6363 3 роки тому +10

    If anyone wants to see an extended version of this footage, it’s featured on ReelRock Season 7. Very cool to see it pop up on Mellow too :)

  • @arebalwithacause
    @arebalwithacause 3 роки тому

    That's so cool to see different beta on this climb! Mad props to the more static approach!! That looked insanely tough!

  • @AuxArcClimbing
    @AuxArcClimbing 3 роки тому +2

    The post groundfall fistbump wrap was the best part lol

  • @HatoriHanzo1
    @HatoriHanzo1 3 роки тому

    The beauty of finding the right beta (for us). I have had similar stories. So satisfying when it happens. And teaches us a lot!

  • @Bouldest1
    @Bouldest1 3 роки тому +13

    Now it’s more like without the wagon 😭

  • @LongBoy.0
    @LongBoy.0 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, I’ve never seen anyone send it with that beta. Incredible!

  • @spirit1239
    @spirit1239 3 роки тому +3

    Congrats man, quite the journey :)

  • @matteos.3438
    @matteos.3438 3 роки тому

    keenan’s encouragements are A1 content

  • @mathius8360
    @mathius8360 3 роки тому +9

    I'd recommend that everybody go watch the episode of Reel Rock that covers Giuliano's journey to climb this. It's incredible to see the effort he puts in.

  • @francislousada3.
    @francislousada3. 7 місяців тому

    Bravo! Técnica e muita força!!

  • @jasonsheppard1
    @jasonsheppard1 3 роки тому +80

    With the wagon gone does that mean we're now closer to seeing the actual sit start to this boulder?!

    • @doublevgreen
      @doublevgreen 3 роки тому +5

      They said its choss lower down

    • @shawntrevordaniel
      @shawntrevordaniel 3 роки тому +23

      @@doublevgreen in that case they gotta break out the hammer & crowbar

    • @doublevgreen
      @doublevgreen 3 роки тому +7

      @@shawntrevordaniel just like in the good old times

    • @davidtorres8396
      @davidtorres8396 3 роки тому +1

      @@doublevgreen it probably all feels like choss to us mere mortals. I would hate to see what they think choss is. My fingers are bleeding just thinking about it

    • @doublevgreen
      @doublevgreen 3 роки тому +11

      @@davidtorres8396 i think you havent gotten the definition of choss quite right

  • @vee3rdeye
    @vee3rdeye Рік тому

    A valiant effort

  • @subliska7210
    @subliska7210 3 роки тому +34

    Wow what a rollercoaster! Going from "fuck the beta" to the gnarly dry fire, back to the original beta, and then "fuck the beta" again on the crimps... Another Mellow classic!
    With the wagon to the side, can we get an "Off the wagon sit - sit"?

  • @whelmking6497
    @whelmking6497 3 роки тому +3

    Fall at 3:30 is the moment you realize why having your friends spot is more important than making a video.

  • @tubbytj
    @tubbytj 3 роки тому +11

    That first clip when you stick the first move 🤣😁

  • @garrettswank6030
    @garrettswank6030 3 роки тому

    Love this thing, and I love seeing all the dif betas used

  • @Keukeu45
    @Keukeu45 Рік тому

    Il déchire Giuliano!

  • @Theaddekalk
    @Theaddekalk 3 роки тому

    strong going man, really nice vid. intense

  • @SeadonClothing
    @SeadonClothing 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting he was able to switch back to his original beta due to the obvious increase in strength. Even with the last few moves he ended up not flagging his right (compared with his first try) and just did a ‘non-Giu’ slightly desperate move to get the send. Such an unique climber with a distinct style that tends to make every send so easy with mastery flow.

  • @rschreck876
    @rschreck876 3 роки тому +1

    3:16 his spotters were on it. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @rumperdumper
    @rumperdumper 3 роки тому +1

    I don't remember the name of the mustache guy, but he is one of my favorite side characters in the Mello universe.

  • @sparrowman6077
    @sparrowman6077 3 роки тому +1

    With the wagon moved, is it now the true off the wagon (not sds)?? It’s still one of the most aesthetically pleasing boulders out there. Congrats man, good on ya. Sick send!

  • @bongosock
    @bongosock 3 роки тому

    Man, must have been hard going for the jump again after that fall :0

  • @ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog
    @ABSVabeautifulsunsetvlog 3 роки тому

    Sweet send dude ✌🏽😃🤙🏽

  • @kraysean
    @kraysean 3 роки тому

    Not a single "dude" after the top out.. i must not have been there! Grande Giul

  • @jidoc4877
    @jidoc4877 Рік тому

    3:32 classic moment of missing the pad, and 20 ft to the right is an unused pad.

  • @ethanleinius5882
    @ethanleinius5882 3 роки тому +4

    That dry fire looked fatal

  • @richardfoust2815
    @richardfoust2815 3 роки тому

    This was a fantastic film--LOVED watching the process--but I just can't help thinking is spotting just not a thing anymore? I'm old, and therefore started bouldering before there were pads (and I am REALLY glad those were invented!), but a spot still seems like a good idea....

    • @kraysean
      @kraysean 3 роки тому

      this is a very hard to spot boulder. it just doesn't really work or make much difference

  • @dariorotaclimb
    @dariorotaclimb 3 роки тому

    GRANDISSIMO!!! E che botta la caduta....

  • @XxOzzyBoyx
    @XxOzzyBoyx 3 роки тому +13

    That many people there and no spotter is fucking wild. Dont get that shit.

    • @jeffersin7092
      @jeffersin7092 3 роки тому

      Makes a better video without spoters

    • @Mike-oz4cv
      @Mike-oz4cv 3 роки тому

      I’ve always doubted the benefits of having spotters anyway. Though in the case at least the ground would be flat and firm enough for some proper spotting.

  • @johnblack7862
    @johnblack7862 9 місяців тому

    I wonder if it's possible to move those logs at the base and do a sit start?! And would it up the grade? If the low moves into the V16 are hard, it would have to be at least V17

  • @TheGreatNordini
    @TheGreatNordini 3 роки тому +2

    Off (verb) the wagon.

  • @hansachs
    @hansachs 3 роки тому +2

    3:15 all time dryfire

  • @nopro_films
    @nopro_films 3 роки тому +4

    WHERE'S THE WAGON 8c+

  • @AdamLewis1
    @AdamLewis1 3 роки тому

    This video has confirmed my love for Keenan Takahashi

  • @justingabriele3881
    @justingabriele3881 3 роки тому

    Lol is it still “off the wagon sit” if you move the wagon and start standing… makes me think a sit start with the wagon moved might be on??

  • @skymaze777
    @skymaze777 3 роки тому

    Now who's going to do Off the Wagon (no wagon) sit?

  • @hashiramasenju5001
    @hashiramasenju5001 3 роки тому +1

    The wagon is gone... But not forgotten !
    Also does this open up the possibility for a mega low sit start?

    • @jamesfleming5422
      @jamesfleming5422 3 роки тому

      Evidently it’s pretty chossy down below. But it would be pretty sick if someone found a sit start.

  • @julianmcgee5741
    @julianmcgee5741 3 роки тому

    Hi. Why don't people move the wagon out of the way and do a proper sit start?

  • @dieselrugg
    @dieselrugg 3 роки тому

    Sick!

  • @MANIRES
    @MANIRES 3 роки тому +2

    so the sit start now has a stand start :D ?
    does the new stand start maybe have a new sit start ?

    • @100.-.clim_bing
      @100.-.clim_bing 4 місяці тому

      It would be awesome if someone did it sit start from the ground, graded it 9A (or maybe first 9A+ ?), and named it "Move the wagon".

  • @anthonymoenich9533
    @anthonymoenich9533 3 роки тому

    What the hell did he do in the off-season!? Congrats.

  • @rippendale
    @rippendale Рік тому

    Just out of curiosity is there a possible sit start from the ground?

  • @codyheiner3636
    @codyheiner3636 3 роки тому

    What happened to the wagon?
    Oh I see it got moved to the side

  • @benruefmedia
    @benruefmedia 3 роки тому

    Wait but is this not off the wagon sit? And like he didn't start on or off the wagon

  • @KOLBENPFIEL
    @KOLBENPFIEL 3 роки тому

    Oh shit!! No more wagon? :o

    • @ThirdEyePried
      @ThirdEyePried 3 роки тому +1

      They just rolled it to the side. From what I gather, it gets moved back and forth now.

  • @jakubpaulik671
    @jakubpaulik671 5 місяців тому

    hmm, that fall...its sad that capacities like that are no spotting... he easily could break his ankle and project would be done... its basic, isnt it ? Also, you are inspiring other climbers...what do they take if they dont see a single spotting pair of hands up there ? ... just my honest opinion :) sending love

  • @EuVray
    @EuVray 3 роки тому

    He didn't go to the very top of that boulder ? Does it still count ? :D

  • @Ivheh
    @Ivheh 3 роки тому

    where did the wagon go

  • @notericmoore9479
    @notericmoore9479 3 роки тому

    Is there a V18 sit start under the wagon?

  • @aries_9130
    @aries_9130 3 роки тому

    Sick

  • @aaronschneider9463
    @aaronschneider9463 3 роки тому

    Paper beats rock 💪🏻

  • @Kletterszenecom
    @Kletterszenecom 3 роки тому

    is spotting out or just uncool? Sorry, but i don't understand why none of the crew does it.

  • @teostrong6973
    @teostrong6973 4 місяці тому

    He didn’t do the rose move😢

  • @MelanieRobertson03
    @MelanieRobertson03 3 роки тому

    Where’s the wagon?

  • @brotherbonez
    @brotherbonez 3 роки тому

    Where did the wagon go??

  • @weirderthan
    @weirderthan 3 роки тому

    Why isn't it called No Wagon?

  • @dynosaurs
    @dynosaurs 3 роки тому +5

    Where's the wagon tho?

  • @mikkelsmauritzen4590
    @mikkelsmauritzen4590 3 роки тому

    Cant call it off the wagon and not Even start on the wagon. Awsome boulder and send but cmon the wagon is iconic

  • @benruefmedia
    @benruefmedia 3 роки тому

    Definitely impressive that he did the whole thing pretty much static. It made it a cooler climb. Bet if you had the power though the campusing and cutting beta probably would go sooner cuz it's simpler

  • @yerbles777
    @yerbles777 3 роки тому

    Made that look like V2 doued!!

  • @alecthompson9585
    @alecthompson9585 3 роки тому

    I'll never understand it but impressive nonetheless!

  • @andrewbmaher9443
    @andrewbmaher9443 3 роки тому

    CRAZY DIGGER

  • @b3tt3rth4ny0u
    @b3tt3rth4ny0u 3 роки тому

    Casual

  • @spencershields9186
    @spencershields9186 2 роки тому

    bean burrito dood

  • @jacksoukup5442
    @jacksoukup5442 3 роки тому

    “It’s so easy” llllooolllll

  • @zealous261
    @zealous261 2 роки тому

    I feel like shorter climbers would struggle with this climb

  • @joolsgrommers1466
    @joolsgrommers1466 3 роки тому

    Psyched!

  • @trevormooriss
    @trevormooriss 2 роки тому

    Get The Jug

  • @rippendale
    @rippendale 3 роки тому +3

    Waitwaitwaitwait y'all just gonna act like starting without the wagon is the same as sitting on it? I could swear Shawn FA'd OTWsit not low. Or did I miss something?

    • @alexantone5532
      @alexantone5532 3 роки тому +1

      Bro it’s the same exact moves, you’re just not sitting. Also it was always called low because there was rock below it for an actual sitstart

    • @alexantone5532
      @alexantone5532 3 роки тому

      @@hyau23 one of the vids says low

  • @callum8792
    @callum8792 3 роки тому +1

    More like 'Off the floor'

  • @stevesun1608
    @stevesun1608 7 місяців тому

    redbull on the wagon

  • @aa-uz1tg
    @aa-uz1tg 3 роки тому

    You can’t tell me his climbing isn’t an art form

  • @CJski
    @CJski 3 роки тому +1

    Yet another beta option. I wonder what that high crimp would go at

  • @Josh-wb7ii
    @Josh-wb7ii 3 роки тому

    I NEED TO KNOW THE STORY OF THIS WAGON, WHO OWNS IT, WHY IS IT THERE, DOES NO ONE CARE ABOUT CLIMBERS JUMPING ALL OVER IT.

  • @BADCAP
    @BADCAP 3 роки тому

    silence pls :)

  • @zwhite_122
    @zwhite_122 3 роки тому

    What boulder is this?????

    • @alonsorodriguez652
      @alonsorodriguez652 3 роки тому +4

      Off the wagon -sit start. the waggon is moved but the moves are the same ones

    • @zwhite_122
      @zwhite_122 3 роки тому +1

      @@alonsorodriguez652 oh cool I thought this might be bishop mega classic 4 star v10 testpiece stained glass 😅

  • @vittoriobenedet2221
    @vittoriobenedet2221 2 роки тому

    doesn not seem a v16

  • @juandelosmuertos
    @juandelosmuertos 3 роки тому +1

    Cool vid, but 6 min too long