I realize this video is over 3-years old, but I’ve not found a better instructional video of its' type on UA-cam. I have one question, what is the difference between the Indoor and Outdoor modes? I've paired my Wahoo Roam to my Wahoo Kicker, as you suggested, and it works great, but it doesn’t seem to make any difference whether I set it to Indoor, or Outdoor. As soon as I start pedaling (Wahoo Kicker) my Wahoo Roam automatically switches to the passive mode without any action on my part. Thanks!
Hi Joel, happy you found this video helpful. To answer your question, Indoor mode will turn the GPS off and conserve battery. Other than that, not much is different.
I wish strava would have smart trainer integration. Especially for route mode to ride outdoor rides indoors since it already has GPS. Can’t really afford a element computer at the moment
So strange that many months after wahoo bought sufferfest, there is still no integration of sufferfest workouts (nor 4dp) on the elemnt devices. I'm waiting to see this before I pull the trigger on a wahoo head unit.
Great info mate, so much more informative than official Wahoo tutorials lol!! I just wanted to ask with the Planned Workout mode, if a range of FTP is defined in each "lap/segment", how does the KICKR interpret that and subsequently, what power does it try to hold for you? And is there a way to tell the headunit to use bike powermeter and not the KICKR's power meter?
I will have to look more into that but usually it follows whatever target specified or set by the platform it received the information from. I would think is usually in the middle of that range.
Great video if I connect my smart trainer to zwift then to my wahoo element can I control my watts cause sometimes I feel the trainer is showing 250 watts but feels like 300
Thanks so much for your video's! I am new . I just bought a kickr core trainer and a Fulgaz subscription. Which bike computer do I need (do you recommend) to store up every training to compare afterwards?
FulGaz should store all your rides but you can get a bike computer like the Elemnt from Wahoo or any Garmin Edge. Personally I use Elemnt Roam and Garmin Edge 530.
Still buggy with the Wahoo Element Bolt and Elite Suito trainer (both on latest software). Once paired, and riding on Zwift, resistance goes very high, even on the flat. Reports indicate a problem with the devices messing up weight stored in trainer. Fix is to unpair Elemnt and do a ride using Elite’s own myETraining app.
Thanks for the video but you might want to add a note saying that some features ONLY work with Wahoo trainers, i.e. Route Mode and Level Mode (and maybe passive mode too). On my Tacx Vortex, Resistance Mode, ERG Mode and Workout Mode work ok but Route Mode does NOT work properly, i.e. slope/resistance is not set and Level Mode does not work either. Also it seems having the Bolt connected to the Vortex also messes up the resistance/slope setting in Zwift (yes I did check that Zwift was connected over BT to the Vortex before starting the Bolt) even when set to Passive Mode.
I have a Saris H3, even when the Wahoo Elemnt is in passive mode and Zwift was connected (ant+ )before turning on the WE, the resistance is modified randomly
Hello. I have some questions regarding the pairing with the wahoo element to kickr / zwift. you say one must use ANT + to pair wahoo element. I do not use a computer but use apple tv. Where should I connect ANT +?
Hello again, if I get the wahoo power pedals, only plan on riding indoors but would like cadence, speed and heart rate. For when riding on non smart rollers, and smart trainer. What computer do you recommend
I personally use the Wahoo Element Roam which works well for indoor riding particularly if you plan on getting a Wahoo trainer. The Garmin Edge line such as 530 or 830 are also very solid and easy to use.
Could you please check Route mode with some Tacx Smart trainer? I have Bolt and Tacx Flux 2, both with latest software. Unfortunately the Route mode doesn’t work correctly for me. The is no change in resistance during a ride. I see gradient changes and move on map page, but I can’t feel any change in resistance level. It results I can ride 30km/h on 10% ascent, which is, unfortunately, not possible for me. I’d appreciate if you could check it.
Thanks for the excellent info and review! Question, will this set up allow me to complete my pre-programmed workouts using Sim mode on Zwift? Currently, when you turn off erg mode for workouts, the Smart trainer essentially becomes a dumb trainer and ignores the sim mode data. Thanks.
If you want to use your bike computer to execute the workout and only ride in sim mode in Zwift, just make sure to unpair the trainer as “controllable” in the Zwift pairing menu. But if you want to ride Zwift and feel the terrain change, make sure your trainer is paired as controllable. Just don’t let the bike computer and Zwift control your trainer because your resistance will keep randomly change.
I used workout mode with trainingpeaks workout on my wahoo computer paired with H3. Seems like doesn’t want keep Watts in erg mode very well. I supposed to ride 1h @ 222W it came out to 236W. It was steady endurance ride. Does someone experiences similar problems?
Depends on which trainer you have. If it’s a wahoo trainer, then yes, you can calibrate directly from the wahoo Elemnt. Otherwise, I would use the trainer specific app to calibrate.
I man! Nice Video! I got a question… I bought the element v2 from wahoo and will use it mainly for outdoors, but I also have a spinning bike for indoors. I bought the version with the additional speed and cadence sensors. When I installed them, my average pace was 98 km/h 😂 so truly a bit too fast. Is there any option to fix that ? Cheers
Great video! Did you ever try to record your Zwift ride on a Wahoo Bolt in passive mode? I always get different numbers on my Bolt than on Zwift (same wattage, but different speed and mileage). I think it doesn't recognize the inclines, which makes it sensless for me to record the data via Bolt. Is there a workaround or hack you can recommend?
Speed and distance won’t match because Zwift is translating your power to speed based on the terrain. The Bolt is only good for recording your power and possibly as a backup in case your lose your Zwift session
I've just bought Elite Drivo today and when connected to my Wahoo Roam the speed are reading 80mph plus. Any idea how to fix this. I'm a complete newbie. I don't have zwift yet as I'm waiting on new laptop arriving son just connected Roam to Elite trainer. Thanks in advance.
@SMART BIKE Trainers is it possible to use the element bolt with the tacx app? I want to do a planned workout from my Tacx app , paired with my element bolt to record my training in the element app.... so tacx app gives information about training to the tacx trainer and element bolt is just recording... is this possible? thanks
Yes you can do that. Depending on your smart trainer/setup, you should be able to use the Tacx app to control and guide you through the workout, and Elemnt Bolt to only record. Just set the Elemnt bolt to passive mode.
Wanted to get your opinion on something. Say I started a workout in TR via BT then after 10min, paused TR and connected my Kickr18 to my bolt via ANT+ and did a spindown calibration in the Wahoo Utility app, afterwards disconnecting the trainer from the bolt and then resuming on TR, would this work OK? I always see recommendations to first warm up the trainer for around 10min and being time crunched I'm trying to not add 10min to the time I have to train on the days I do spindown calibrations. Your insights would be greatly appreciated.
hi so i tried pairing a workout plan from bolt to the neo tacx. i feel no resistance at all, warmup 138w to 230w intervals, i have to spin really fast or go in big chain front in order to sustain. how to set so the trainer will automatically set resistance so its harder to pedal but dont need to increase cadence?
I guess I’m still clueless as to why I want to bother for indoor rides when I am already using TrainerRoad or Zwift. I already have all the stats. Is there some reason I should be using my roam as well?
If you are already using TrainerRoad, Zwift, or any other app, then you are good. Some like to use the bike computer as a backup device recording the ride in case the app crashes. Also, you can have a lot more data fields displayed on a bike computer than what Zwift or TR show - Such as current lap average power, NP, TSS, etc.
@@SmartBikeTrainers great video by the way, thanks. I did a ride yesterday with my new roam, and I get it now especially with the extra fields. I just left it in passive mode though as the ride was recorded by both TrainerRoad and Zwift running at the same time.
My wahoo bolt keeps connecting as BT and not ANT+. Im using TR with my iPad and it also doesn’t connect using Ant+. Keeps connecting as Bluetooth. How did you connect your iPhone to Ant+?
The elevation readings from the routes I create and what I have at the end of my ride on the smart trainer on my Wahoo Kickr Core and Wahoo Elemt Bolt never match. Anyone else experience this?
HELLO, I just received the elemnt device, I have noticed that when the kickr is paired with the elemnt the blue light of the bluetooth kickr stays on, this is normal even when it have asked me if I wanted to pair the kickr appeared; SAVED KICKR ? ANT+ 40979 NETWORK btle.(means bluetooth?) How can I choose to pair them via blutooth or via ant +? thanks and sorry for so many questions in a row, your help is being essential
Wahoo devices don't play with other trainers in my experience, even with help from Wahoo. I tried with a Dirt and a Neo, with no success. The Direto was nil resistance and speeds of over 200mph. The Neo just locked up immediately.
hello i m french thanks for vidéos so i have difficult for hae the speed correct on my wahoo element and elite suito i have 12. or 130 kmh for ex when i test this.. i don"t know why to resolve it....? if you have methode i m ok ? best regards
Hello- Your speed on the trainer doesn’t matter and doesn’t usually equate what you might be able to do outside. But one thing you can do is to make sure the Elite Suito wheel circumference is set to 2095 on your Wahoo Elemnt. Hope this helps!
@@SmartBikeTrainers hello i m ok but the value speed on wahoo and ride on suito is aboute 120 km H incorrect but cadence seem ok rpm when you try stimulate on your wahoo? your last rides is it réally simulatio resistance ans reel wheling? escuse me for my langage i m french
Doesnt work with a Zumo. I have paired my Zumo to my Elmnt Roam, the speed are inaccurate and drops to 0. I have divided the wheel circumference by 12.1, it still doesn't work. Resistance doesn't change on custom routes either.
Hi unfortunately my Elemmt Roam is still connecting via Bluetooth to my Wahoo Kickr Core. I did all the step like you mentioned in the video, to connect first via bluetooth the wahoo kicks on zwift with my mobile device. I added new sensor, he s showing me the kickr but connecting by Bluetooth not ANT+ .. :( can someone support me please? Thanks
You can use Bluetooth if you would like. The Core supports multiple Bluetooth connection now and I made this video before Wahoo released that update to the Core.
I still can’t get my roam to connect to my Kickr Core via Ant+ after carrying out these steps….roam still says it’s connected via BTLE… please help thanks
How does device Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM 2 work with your cycle trainer Tacx Neo 2T? Are all functions available compared with device GARMIN EDGE? Which one is more versatile for home workouts? What will work better Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM 2 with Tacx Neo 2T or GARMIN EDGE 530/830 with Wahoo KICKR v6?
If you have both a power meter and a smart trainer paired to the ELEMNT and do an erg workout, what happens? Which power reading gets displayed, or does is randomly switch from one to the other? Which power reading is used to control the trainer? Nobody seems to know ... this topic would make a great investigative UA-cam video (hint hint!). Thanks.
Resistance mode or Level mode? Or do you just go with ERG mode?
Which one is the most realistic?
Much clearer description of what the modes do than anything I could find on wahoo! Thanks!
This really helped me today, jzk
Great video. I cant believe Wahoo don’t promote this more. Ive owned my Kickr for a year now and my Element longer but did not know about this.
woow what awsome guide, thanks a lot!!!
Glad you found it helpful 👍
I realize this video is over 3-years old, but I’ve not found a better instructional video of its' type on UA-cam.
I have one question, what is the difference between the Indoor and Outdoor modes? I've paired my Wahoo Roam to my Wahoo Kicker, as you suggested, and it works great, but it doesn’t seem to make any difference whether I set it to Indoor, or Outdoor. As soon as I start pedaling (Wahoo Kicker) my Wahoo Roam automatically switches to the passive mode without any action on my part. Thanks!
Hi Joel, happy you found this video helpful. To answer your question, Indoor mode will turn the GPS off and conserve battery. Other than that, not much is different.
Game changer thanks! Really useful and clear
Glad you found it helpful 👍
Amazing video, thanks! Straight to the point and lots of useful information. Cheers!
Great explanation. Thankyou👍🚴♀️
I wish strava would have smart trainer integration. Especially for route mode to ride outdoor rides indoors since it already has GPS. Can’t really afford a element computer at the moment
Great video. Thank you very much!
Great video, thanks, helped me a lot with the Wahoo settings!
Glad it helped!
So strange that many months after wahoo bought sufferfest, there is still no integration of sufferfest workouts (nor 4dp) on the elemnt devices. I'm waiting to see this before I pull the trigger on a wahoo head unit.
What does BTLE mean vs. ANT+ in the network field on the Bolt after going through the steps you mentioned? Great video! Thanks.
Great video, thanks
You are welcome
Great info mate, so much more informative than official Wahoo tutorials lol!! I just wanted to ask with the Planned Workout mode, if a range of FTP is defined in each "lap/segment", how does the KICKR interpret that and subsequently, what power does it try to hold for you? And is there a way to tell the headunit to use bike powermeter and not the KICKR's power meter?
I will have to look more into that but usually it follows whatever target specified or set by the platform it received the information from. I would think is usually in the middle of that range.
Great video if I connect my smart trainer to zwift then to my wahoo element can I control my watts cause sometimes I feel the trainer is showing 250 watts but feels like 300
If you pair your kickr to Zwift as “Controllable” then you should select “Passive” mode in the Elemnt.
Thanks so much for your video's!
I am new . I just bought a kickr core trainer and a Fulgaz subscription. Which bike computer do I need (do you recommend) to store up every training to compare afterwards?
FulGaz should store all your rides but you can get a bike computer like the Elemnt from Wahoo or any Garmin Edge. Personally I use Elemnt Roam and Garmin Edge 530.
Still buggy with the Wahoo Element Bolt and Elite Suito trainer (both on latest software). Once paired, and riding on Zwift, resistance goes very high, even on the flat. Reports indicate a problem with the devices messing up weight stored in trainer. Fix is to unpair Elemnt and do a ride using Elite’s own myETraining app.
Thanks for the video but you might want to add a note saying that some features ONLY work with Wahoo trainers, i.e. Route Mode and Level Mode (and maybe passive mode too).
On my Tacx Vortex, Resistance Mode, ERG Mode and Workout Mode work ok but Route Mode does NOT work properly, i.e. slope/resistance is not set and Level Mode does not work either. Also it seems having the Bolt connected to the Vortex also messes up the resistance/slope setting in Zwift (yes I did check that Zwift was connected over BT to the Vortex before starting the Bolt) even when set to Passive Mode.
I have a Saris H3, even when the Wahoo Elemnt is in passive mode and Zwift was connected (ant+ )before turning on the WE, the resistance
is modified randomly
Very nice , thanks 😊
Hello. I have some questions regarding the pairing with the wahoo element to kickr / zwift. you say one must use ANT + to pair wahoo element. I do not use a computer but use apple tv. Where should I connect ANT +?
With the new KICKRs, you can use Bluetooth in both. Just make sure it’s in passive mode in the Wahoo Elemnt if you pair it as a controllable in Zwift.
Does the wahoo bolt work on a Tacx flux 2 ??
Great video
I love this segway.
If its in resistance mode and you've got the kickr and power meter connected, what power will it be reading from?
Can you use indoor mode if you have speed and cadence sensors on a set of rollers for example?
You should be able to and it will just calculate your speed and distance.
Thanks for the response
Hello again, if I get the wahoo power pedals, only plan on riding indoors but would like cadence, speed and heart rate. For when riding on non smart rollers, and smart trainer. What computer do you recommend
I personally use the Wahoo Element Roam which works well for indoor riding particularly if you plan on getting a Wahoo trainer. The Garmin Edge line such as 530 or 830 are also very solid and easy to use.
Could you please check Route mode with some Tacx Smart trainer? I have Bolt and Tacx Flux 2, both with latest software. Unfortunately the Route mode doesn’t work correctly for me. The is no change in resistance during a ride. I see gradient changes and move on map page, but I can’t feel any change in resistance level. It results I can ride 30km/h on 10% ascent, which is, unfortunately, not possible for me. I’d appreciate if you could check it.
Did you end up finding a fix ? I've observed the same here on my Tacx Vortex :-(
Hi. Is it possible to connect the Wahoo Element to Zwift. I make use of a IC7 indoor bike and need something like the Element for a power source.
Thanks for the excellent info and review! Question, will this set up allow me to complete my pre-programmed workouts using Sim mode on Zwift? Currently, when you turn off erg mode for workouts, the Smart trainer essentially becomes a dumb trainer and ignores the sim mode data. Thanks.
If you want to use your bike computer to execute the workout and only ride in sim mode in Zwift, just make sure to unpair the trainer as “controllable” in the Zwift pairing menu. But if you want to ride Zwift and feel the terrain change, make sure your trainer is paired as controllable. Just don’t let the bike computer and Zwift control your trainer because your resistance will keep randomly change.
I used workout mode with trainingpeaks workout on my wahoo computer paired with H3. Seems like doesn’t want keep Watts in erg mode very well. I supposed to ride 1h @ 222W it came out to 236W. It was steady endurance ride. Does someone experiences similar problems?
Have you solved your problem? In may case it seems that passive mode interferes with Zwift, so there is no resistance.
Thx a lot- do you need the companion app to recalibrate the bike trainer? Or can you do it directly from Wahoo element?
Depends on which trainer you have. If it’s a wahoo trainer, then yes, you can calibrate directly from the wahoo Elemnt. Otherwise, I would use the trainer specific app to calibrate.
I man! Nice Video! I got a question… I bought the element v2 from wahoo and will use it mainly for outdoors, but I also have a spinning bike for indoors. I bought the version with the additional speed and cadence sensors. When I installed them, my average pace was 98 km/h 😂 so truly a bit too fast. Is there any option to fix that ? Cheers
Yeah that’s too fast lol. You will need to adjust the wheel circumference to the bike specs to get the correct readings
@@SmartBikeTrainers found it! Thanks mate 👍🏼
Great video! Did you ever try to record your Zwift ride on a Wahoo Bolt in passive mode? I always get different numbers on my Bolt than on Zwift (same wattage, but different speed and mileage). I think it doesn't recognize the inclines, which makes it sensless for me to record the data via Bolt. Is there a workaround or hack you can recommend?
Speed and distance won’t match because Zwift is translating your power to speed based on the terrain. The Bolt is only good for recording your power and possibly as a backup in case your lose your Zwift session
SMART Bike Trainers thank you for your advice!! 👍
I've just bought Elite Drivo today and when connected to my Wahoo Roam the speed are reading 80mph plus. Any idea how to fix this. I'm a complete newbie. I don't have zwift yet as I'm waiting on new laptop arriving son just connected Roam to Elite trainer. Thanks in advance.
Se puede conectar ciclo computador igpsport con wahoo kickr?
@SMART BIKE Trainers is it possible to use the element bolt with the tacx app? I want to do a planned workout from my Tacx app , paired with my element bolt to record my training in the element app.... so tacx app gives information about training to the tacx trainer and element bolt is just recording... is this possible? thanks
Yes you can do that. Depending on your smart trainer/setup, you should be able to use the Tacx app to control and guide you through the workout, and Elemnt Bolt to only record. Just set the Elemnt bolt to passive mode.
sorry I have 1 questions all the WAHOO product I mean the speed , cadence and fitness TICKR is working whir SAMSUNG HEALTH o how is working ...
Hi, when I connect mij Wahoo core to my Roam. I won't get the screen with the 6 training possibility's. Any Idea what I do wrong?
Wanted to get your opinion on something. Say I started a workout in TR via BT then after 10min, paused TR and connected my Kickr18 to my bolt via ANT+ and did a spindown calibration in the Wahoo Utility app, afterwards disconnecting the trainer from the bolt and then resuming on TR, would this work OK? I always see recommendations to first warm up the trainer for around 10min and being time crunched I'm trying to not add 10min to the time I have to train on the days I do spindown calibrations. Your insights would be greatly appreciated.
You should be able to calibrate your KICKR directly from TR from the devices menu. No need to go to the wahoo app or bolt to do the spin down.
my roam finds kickr in ant+, but it pairs via bt... any help?
What do I need to do to get my Tacx Neo to track pedal smoothness
hi so i tried pairing a workout plan from bolt to the neo tacx. i feel no resistance at all, warmup 138w to 230w intervals, i have to spin really fast or go in big chain front in order to sustain. how to set so the trainer will automatically set resistance so its harder to pedal but dont need to increase cadence?
I have the same problem with Saris H3 and wahoo elemnt in passive mode. Have you solved the problem?
I guess I’m still clueless as to why I want to bother for indoor rides when I am already using TrainerRoad or Zwift. I already have all the stats. Is there some reason I should be using my roam as well?
If you are already using TrainerRoad, Zwift, or any other app, then you are good. Some like to use the bike computer as a backup device recording the ride in case the app crashes. Also, you can have a lot more data fields displayed on a bike computer than what Zwift or TR show - Such as current lap average power, NP, TSS, etc.
@@SmartBikeTrainers great video by the way, thanks. I did a ride yesterday with my new roam, and I get it now especially with the extra fields. I just left it in passive mode though as the ride was recorded by both TrainerRoad and Zwift running at the same time.
My wahoo bolt keeps connecting as BT and not ANT+. Im using TR with my iPad and it also doesn’t connect using Ant+. Keeps connecting as Bluetooth. How did you connect your iPhone to Ant+?
The elevation readings from the routes I create and what I have at the end of my ride on the smart trainer on my Wahoo Kickr Core and Wahoo Elemt Bolt never match. Anyone else experience this?
HELLO, I just received the elemnt device, I have noticed that when the kickr is paired with the elemnt the blue light of the bluetooth kickr stays on, this is normal even when it have asked me if I wanted to pair the kickr appeared;
SAVED KICKR ?
ANT+ 40979
NETWORK btle.(means bluetooth?)
How can I choose to pair them via blutooth or via ant +?
thanks and sorry for so many questions in a row, your help is being essential
Wahoo devices don't play with other trainers in my experience, even with help from Wahoo. I tried with a Dirt and a Neo, with no success. The Direto was nil resistance and speeds of over 200mph. The Neo just locked up immediately.
Are you using the latest firmware? They did have issues with older firmware but haven’t had problems using it with my Neo or H3.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Yes, latest firmware.
The route mode doesn’t replicate the elevation changes on my Elite smart trainer. Any ideas?
Does the unit still record the elevation off a Zwift ride ??
No it does not record the elevation off
Of Zwift ride.
hello i m french thanks for vidéos so i have difficult for hae the speed correct on my wahoo element and elite suito i have 12. or 130 kmh for ex when i test this.. i don"t know why to resolve it....? if you have methode i m ok ? best regards
Hello- Your speed on the trainer doesn’t matter and doesn’t usually equate what you might be able to do outside. But one thing you can do is to make sure the Elite Suito wheel circumference is set to 2095 on your Wahoo Elemnt. Hope this helps!
@@SmartBikeTrainers hello i must test this? but i m ok to have methode of other user of elite suito and wahoo element... as possible.
@@SmartBikeTrainers hello i m ok but the value speed on wahoo and ride on suito is aboute 120 km H incorrect but cadence seem ok rpm
when you try stimulate on your wahoo? your last rides is it réally simulatio resistance ans reel wheling? escuse me for my langage i m french
Doesnt work with a Zumo. I have paired my Zumo to my Elmnt Roam, the speed are inaccurate and drops to 0. I have divided the wheel circumference by 12.1, it still doesn't work. Resistance doesn't change on custom routes either.
Hi
unfortunately my Elemmt Roam is still connecting via Bluetooth to my Wahoo Kickr Core.
I did all the step like you mentioned in the video, to connect first via bluetooth the wahoo kicks on zwift with my mobile device. I added new sensor, he s showing me the kickr but connecting by Bluetooth not ANT+ .. :(
can someone support me please?
Thanks
You can use Bluetooth if you would like. The Core supports multiple Bluetooth connection now and I made this video
before Wahoo released that update to the Core.
Can I use this on a saris h3 without purchasing any third party apps like zwift or trainerroad?
Yes
I still can’t get my roam to connect to my Kickr Core via Ant+ after carrying out these steps….roam still says it’s connected via BTLE… please help thanks
It should be fine now since Wahoo updated the Core with the multiple BLE connections. Are you experiencing any issues?
I don’t think so it records as it should but I thought it had to be connected via Ant+
Xert App has all of them!
Will it work with the Direto trainer?
+Artur Kubiński Yes it should
How does device Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM 2 work with your cycle trainer Tacx Neo 2T? Are all functions available compared with device GARMIN EDGE? Which one is more versatile for home workouts? What will work better Wahoo ELEMNT ROAM 2 with Tacx Neo 2T or GARMIN EDGE 530/830 with Wahoo KICKR v6?
Good discription but hard to follw as, that background music is anowing af.
If you have both a power meter and a smart trainer paired to the ELEMNT and do an erg workout, what happens? Which power reading gets displayed, or does is randomly switch from one to the other? Which power reading is used to control the trainer? Nobody seems to know ... this topic would make a great investigative UA-cam video (hint hint!). Thanks.
The Element will record and use the trainer as the power source for your erg workout.
@@SmartBikeTrainers Thank you for the clear answer! I've always wondered...