@sageseeker9197. I don't remember Aurora enough but I think one could say Cinderella and Snow White were door mats who always had to obey their stepmothers until life forced them out into situations where they had to disobey them in order to live.
Also Arial was the opposition. She never listened and , although she had a happy ending) it was essentially to clean up the mess that she created. Jasmine was sheltered and stubborn ( but very smart) Belle was just kind of a weirdo, somewhat antisocial. She preferred books to making friends. Hyper protective of her dad to the point were she had no social life. However she wad mature beyond her years and compassionate. Mulan (not a princess) was reduced to an awkward clumsy mess whenever she was put in a stressful situation. She could never live up to people's expectations bringing a shame to her entire family. But she found that when it really counted she could rise to the occatiom and saved China!
@@sageseeker9197Isn't it fairly well know that those characters are also relatively forgettable, outside of being princesses from early Disney movies? Not saying they're bad, just that there isn't really much to remember apart from the above. Sleepy beauty and my own memory as an example, I'd wager I remember about as much of Maleficent's Crow or her... pig minions(?) as I do Aurora (mostly due to popular media and design for the minions tbf, but popular media is popular media and good design is good design) Tldr. Am casual, felt general consensus is they aren't remembered much, unfortunately fall into that camp, Maleficent seems neat tho ++let me know if Aurora or the others are secretly super interesting, internet doesn't bring her or the others up much
I could totally see twitter complaining about it and claiming it's "problematic" or something, since it would basically be calling out half the people on twitter with main character complexes
Not sure about movies, but there are isekai fantasy mangas and webtoons out there revolving around uncles/aunties ending up getting caught in hero summoning shenanigans and the antagonists are the schoolboy/girl that believe they are the chosen ones and act hella entitled about it
The king created a utopia where everyone could live happily while filtering wishes so that people with bad or impossible wishes can't get them. And somehow he's a villain.
Yup. The irony is this is what Make a wish Foundation people actually do. For every 1 cancer patient getting a 7 million dollar football stadium, there's another having their wish to meet a celebrity rejected or denied. Or parents hijacking a wish to meet a sports star into "I wish i had 10,000$ to spend on jewelry products and a supermall for mommy" It's kinda horrendous a wish to do good for people ends up being exploited. There are also Fan theories that although Asha or the hollywood writers don't seem to think of Magnifco other than a "villain for saying no and having boundaries". Some of his behaviors could line up with someone with Complex Post Tramuatic Stress disorder attempting to protect others from a past trauma himself. - He cares for others, at first, even if they spit on him. - When pressed he snaps and has a panic attack or retreats into a survival response. While at first his first "fault", it's common for real life Trauma Victims to have 'leftovers' from a fight or flight instinct. Considering we don't even know if anyone Magnifico grew up with is alive but himself. It couldn't be unheard for his "evil selfish intentions" to want to be the person he himself might have wished he had as a child.
I know right? Keeping even their memories of the wish isn't great, but the system is clearly WORKING until he goes crazy and the damage to your mental health isn't usually that bad unless the wish is outright destroyed.
@@fractalgem I mean, that could be debatable. Some wishes could result someone losing their ability to choose for themselves, have one person getting pulled in multiple directions, or even ruin multiple lives. Taking away the memory of those wishes could potentially result is someone moving on from an unhealthy obsession.
The movies lesson is essentially “it’s only ok if I do it because I’m right.” She becomes everything The King was with even more power while The King who made some really good points for why he’s not indiscriminate gets locked in a mirror forever. Because that’s fair.
@@Broomer52also, the king's job wasn't just granting wishes, he provided the people with all the things they need to live and thrive, without him, their lives are now guaranteed gonna be far more miserable than ever before, even if they take things by their own hands, its gonna be one heck of a rocky start, life will never be better than Magnifico's utopia, and they're now open to all sorts of dangers and corruption because he made sure to keep all out of his kingdom and his peoples
@@Broomer52Sequel where King Magnifico escapes the mirror, comes back and has a massive "I told you so!" musical number, then spends the rest of the film trying to fix the shit show protagonist girl left him?
What I'm afraid of is that Disney will see Wish tank and think "Original Stories =/= Profit" and they'll keep making lazy live action remakes, but if Wish succeeded they'd see it more as Lazy Poorly Written Original Stories = Profit
You're exactly right and they've already been doing it. Movies like Strange World are allowed to take pretty much all the risks they want, only to die on arrival because Disney refuses to market them so they can hold them up as evidence for audiences not wanting original ideas. Treasure Planet (my favorite movie) suffered the same fate back in the early 2000s, even though it was a complete labor of love and the directors had to fight for the right to even START the project
@@amethyst_cat9532 Yeah the pass couple of years, if not longer. Disney has really been keen on. Forcing the viewer to like what they want them to like. Rather than let the viewer enjoy what they please and cater to a reasonable degree, to that demand. While if something doesn't have their approval, they will gladly let it die due to lack of marketing or simply try to lock it up, to never see the light of day. Which having seen the original concept for wish. Wow they sound way more interesting than the movie we got. Like I would love to see a movie base off of these original concepts. With the evil couple. Star not being turned into a marketable plushie. For the movie that we got. It like, wait a minute. Did disney hire people who have never watched a disney movie before to create this film? For the idea granting every wish is a bad idea. Has been done before in older disney films. Like Aladdin, where you quickly learn oh hey. The power to grant wishes, can easily turn into a bad thing, should that power fall into the wrong hands. Which is why the King seems reasonable. For disney themselves have shown it a bad idea to grant every wish. Like yeah this film is flawed.
My boyfriend and I were so prepared for a possible twist where the Queen was actually evil and used Asha as a pawn in her coup to take over the kingdom. When King Magnifico was sealed, we were like "THIS IS IT THIS IS IT" only for nothing to happen. That's it, that's the story lmao.
Honestly could have saved the movie. Obviously would need more work to go from bad to great, but having it end with Asha needing to team up with Magnigico and realize that actually he was on to something all while he realizes that actually he had some issues to work through, before teaming up to defeat an evil queen who now uses all the magic for herself would have had so much more impact.
I think having the naive student character that want all these free things provided by the state end up being little more than a useful idiot puppeteered and used by an outside force to overthrow the powers that be for their own nefarious purposes probably would not have rubbed well with Disneys "Modern Audience"
Not to mention he became a completely different character midway through. Once the book took him over, he became a victim. But rather than try to free him from the book's evil influence, everyone, INCLUDING HIS WIFE, was just all "nope you're just 🗑️, let's all throw you in the bin".
@@WobblesandBean Clearly, this is the thanks he gets (for creating a stable kingdom in a violent time beset by banditry, where everyones' needs are met and where there isn't some secret jean O'side going on behind the curtain, which people willingly flocked to).
My theory is that the concept was made before the writers strike. Then the strike came and no one will write the story or let alone the script. So they turned to AI to turn their concept into a movie script which cut alot of things out. They try to edit the story a bit vut failed because there was no human creativity or talent on the script
You know, Disney could have done the "too nice" trope, where the king is so kind that it is harming the city of Rosas. He fulfills EVERY wish and feels underappreciated. Asha could have been the voice of pragmatism while all the city is in chaos due to their wishes being fulfilled one after the other. This song matchs the vibe. Also, the line 'be careful what you wish for', on the movie's poster would be matching the theme, this way.
But there wouldn't be an *actual* villain and Disney doesn't want that. Bad= bad and good= good, or else the kids won't learn anything useful. Can't have a seemingly kind action (granting every wish) be seen as anything but 100% good. They think kids are too stupid to understand nuance.
@@catscanhavelittleasalami But Wish also celebrates 100 years of Disney, and adding depth will be like a love letter to Disney's past. They don't have to aim it at the kids. They should focus on older Disney fans
@catscanhavelittleasalami Who is the villain in Wish, though? Disney wants us to believe it's Magnifico, but he founded Rosas on an uninhabited island, took in refugees from all over the world without discrimination, provided for them, collected no taxes, and allowed anyone, regardless of status, to petition him for one wish. From what we see, Rosas is a utopia, and the king doesn't benefit at all. He does everything purely out of the goodness of his heart, and his people just use him. Even when he turned to the book, it was because he sensed an extremely powerful magic that he thought could destroy his entire kingdom, and he only turned to it after checking every other book in his library and turning to his citizens for help (who selfishly demanded a wishing ceremony in exchange). There was someone walking around with the equivalent of a nuclear weapon, and Magnifico resorted to extreme measures and undertook extreme personal risk to stop that person from harming anyone. His actions don't exactly scream "villain." You know what does, though? Torture. The people he gave everything to and sacrificed everything for choose to torture him once he's trapped in the mirror. His "loyal" wife immediately starts calling him an "it" and orders for him to be tortured despite knowing he's corrupted by dark magic. No attempt is made to save him. No one mourns for him. He's already completely helpless and at their mercy, and they choose to inflict additional suffering on him for no reason. Even when corrupted, Magnifico wasn't that evil.
TFW the worst Wonder Woman movie understood the lesson that indiscriminate wish granting causes chaos better than this movie, and that's the one where Wonder Woman sexually abuses an unconscious dude
@@justinn8541akaDrPokemon that’s true. Encanto shows that a movie without a villain can work, but Wish was stuck with trying to make the villain be evil yet making his motive reasonable
Wish is the story of a powerful yet traumatized king that tried to grant people a paradise being overthrown by the people he tried to protect because he didn't give them more stuff.
No uh....I think it's because the dictator of a false paradise won't return peoples literal souls after being politely asked to. They're not asking for stuff. They're asking for the chance to even try to fulfill it themselves. Honestly the whole flaw is in making him sympathetic at all. They should've known media literacy is at an ATL these days and went full villain mode. Would've been more fun anyhow.
@KekerikiGreen He didn't take people's souls. He was GIVEN their wishes. He either granted them or protected them, but either way, it was good for the wisher. He founded his kingdom on an uninhabited island, and everyone came there willingly to live under his rule and potentially have their wishes granted. He also provided for them and didn't collect taxes, so he got nothing in return, and people (like Asha) just used him. Do you want to know the best way to tell that he wasn't exploiting his people? His "villain" song is him complaining about being exploited. The people of Rosas, in general, and Asha, in particular, are evil and selfish people.
That was his only real flaw in that regard, he was so generous, everyone saw him as bad the moment he refused to give them one thing for justified reasons, something they didn't even remember what it was, they just became obsessed with the idea of winning the lottery and getting even more free stuff, they never ever stopped and thought if they needed it at all, especially those that had spent years without their wish ever getting granted, which at this point they might as well be following a completely different path and have found happiness there so much even just getting that old wish back may not be that good of an idea
contrarian: someone who states that they hold an opinion because it opposes a more popular one/just stated one whether or not it's true or even if they themselves believe it
@@Uta_Chandra.H But doesn't Mags WANT the people to be dependent on him by erasing their memories of their wish so they no longer can do it themself even though he has no intention grant the majority of the wishes? Seems like the message of the film included not being dependent on a single authority figure with unlimited power and influence and zero checks and balance for everything.
You know Wish fumbled the bag as a 100th anniversary Disney celebration when The Fairly Odd Parents has a better narrative about magic (at least until Channel Chasers)
I didn't need a movie to tell me that granting every wish is bad. As a kid, I wished to be a bear. As an adult, I'm strong, hairy, and overweight. So got my wish
you made me laugh! As a kid I thought that hair grew more if you shaved them and I thought that I'd just shave it again and again until i have fur, which means I no longer would have to wear clothes to be warm. Now, i have a condition that makes me too hairy for a woman and i have to do lasers from time to time 😒😒 so another wish granted i guess
@savorysnot8604 Ah, that old wives tale. Though really, your family tells that to convince you to shave that patchy ass "beard" you have that amounts to like 8 hairs but your 14 year old self is so proud of
@@koonehkun6404 not really, just look how much money the Beauty and the Beast remake pulled in, and the fact that it's arguably the most beloved IP of Disney's. the whole "don't need no men" thing are just shallow late-2000s Buzzfeed takes that most people grew out of.
King: This guy wished the shopkeeper to love him, but that would take away her free will, plus she already loves someone else, so I can’t grant that. Since it will never happen, it’s better for me to hold onto the wish so he can forget and move on with his life. Asha: How dare you hold that wish! You are so evil!
Do you have any idea of how many wishes are dark as pitch? How many warlords, perverts, thieves, and monsters would be unleashed by blanket wish-granting? But no, God forbid we hold off on the instant gratification.
What about world changing wishes? i wish every color was pink, i wish every animal was as big as a house, i wish everyone has infinite money(thus money is useless), i wish we had 5 moons, i wish it was always day(turning the world into a burning or freezing hellscape) and the list goes on
I remember the perfect example in Heathers musical where three people want three VERY different things from the same character, one wants to date one the Heathers, another just wishes them to be nicer, and the third one is "I'd like to kidnap a Heather and photograph her naked in an abandoned warehouse and leave her tied up for the rats!"
@@EthanWillingham Even wishes that aren't intentionaly malicious could absolutely have severe consequences. Much like the original post here, how do you make someone fall in love with you while maintaining their free will? If you want to be the best in a field, you have to stop others from being the best (who maybe didn't just wish for it, and actually put in the work), etc. Honestly, it's hard for me to think of many wishes that would be significant (i.e. something someone would actually wish for as their ONE lifetime magical wish, not just "man, I'm really craving a steak right now, can you hook me up?") that wouldn't have potential risk. Want to be beautiful? Well, that's like magical plastic surgery - do you still feel like yourself? If other people also wish to be beautiful, will you still feel beautiful when beautiful people become the standard. Want money? Well, once again, other people will too. Now, the economy is screwed. It could've been a really good nuanced conversation, but it sounds like they just simplified it to make it seem like an easy, black and white problem.
I love how they even address this in the movie with "Well if someone's wish is evil/bad, then we'll stop them before they can do anything!" Or maybe you could just not give the wish back so it never happens in the first place? Wild idea, I know.
The king's system was super reasonable and resposnable. Not every wish should be granted, and not knowing what you wished for that was denied is probably a good thing.
Making people forget their lost wish is villain behavior because it's a mechanism to maintain power without being held accountable for his decisions as arbitrator. Not to mention that fucking with people's heads like that is always evil since it robs them of autonomy over their own minds.
They made an evil spirit force itself upon King Magnifico just in case the audience sides with his logic that not all wishes should be granted in the name of keeping peace.
@willysilva4831 Yes it is. Did you even watch? The man says it. When a wish is vague, he won't grant it. He will only grant a few per year IF they're safe for Rosas. The reason he curses himself is so his past never happens again.
@Alex-mh5mu he might know it but because King Magnifico became evil, he forgot about it he might not know what a character assassination is he might not fathom that makers saw that the antagonist was logical so they made that botched up patch work of "the reveal that he's evil all along"
What Disney has taught me is that anything I wish for is okay and should be granted to me unconditionally. For my first wish I'd like to plagiarize Disney properties for profit.
Not the message of the film. Please just watch it or don't try to explain it. Only in 2024 can the very simple message of "denying free will bad" be misconstrued.
I just read the wiki. So basically, because he wouldn’t *immediately* grant HER FAMILY’s wishes, she made it so NO ONE would get their wishes granted? Wow, such caring. /s
The Grandfather was 100 years old and waited many decades for his wish to be granted but it never was. I recommend actually watching the movie then judging it.
Writers talking about Magnifico in interviews; "Magnifico seems to think wishes are just ideas. But they are a part of your heart." Literally Magnifico, the first time he's talking; "Some people think wishes are just ideas. But they are a part of your heart."
So strange that they'd lie like that. It actually makes Magnifico look worse when he KNOWS the value of wishes and what they are to other people, but still hoards them with the intent of not returning most of them to their owners and then later breaks them to absorb the power within them into himself.
@incrediblefunk7220 he has a right to do whatever he wants with them since he owns them. if they don't want him to own them, they shouldn't give them to him. it's that simple. saying that those citizens don't know what they're doing despite being grown ahh people who give consent is like saying we're all scammed when we make decisions deliberately.
@@Alex-mh5mu Honestly think they spent about 5 minutes trying to make Magnifico a "convincing" villain. There wasn't even a reason for him to turn to the forbidden magic when he did, all he needed to do was be a little patient, but instead Didnep got him acting like an idiot, which is not how he is portrayed earlier in the movie considering he basically built a utopia...
@sparkselm173 exactly and even if you bend over backwards to sell him as a villain he still built all their homes and their entire society so yeah he can't be a villain
@@DORAisD34D Clearly, you don't. One hit from years ago doesn't invalidate the fact that Disney is on the decline. That's like saying climate change isn't real cuz there was one major snowstorm in the US this winter. Disney used to hit it out of the park, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Mulan, Hunchback, The Lion King, even underrated films like the Rescuers Down Under and Treasure Planet are now considered classics...but that's all over. The company just chases profits over people. They couldn't care less about the wonder that the brand used to instill in children and adults alike. They're not interested in making good films, only lucrative ones, and it shows. They forgot that if you make a good product, the money will follow. The first few times they were able to bank on nostalgia and name recognition alone, but it's not working anymore. They keep cutting corners and rushing half-baked films out, and the audience is no longer taking the bait. Walt Disney would have been devastated to see this is what became of his legacy.
THANK YOU for being the first person that points out the weird ass decision of turning a _young love song_ into a villain/protagonist duet that Disney made. Like, imagine the writers being told that the love song they made is gonna be interpreted by a 17th-year-old and a guy that doubles her age.
@@liannapfister8255it's meant to be wierd with context, because You'll Be Back is written like a toxic ex song on purpose. The one in Wish though? No self reflection at all
It was a cute love song, I love the Starboy and Asha idea, however they used this song to represent both Asha and Magnifico's love and longing to protect their people, the wishes are representations of who people really are, as well as Stars, they were both mesmerized. This shows us that the King was genuinely a good person, a caring King. Although I do wish Starboy could have been real, I still listen to the demo and watch storyboards it is so cute!
Magnifico reads to me as a guy who went through something really traumatic and is over correcting by being super strict with the wishes. They could easily give him like a Marlin from Finding Nemoish arc if they wanted, but on a bigger scale. Or if they really wanted him to be unapologetically evil, having him be using the wishes on himself from the beginning, instead of just holding them.
I think that was meant to be the idea, that he only grants the wishes that makes him and his kingdom look better and keeps everyone adoring him and dependent upon him, but it didn't really come through too well.
The thing is that he wasn't super strict with granting wishes. He was perfectly reasonable. He only granted wishes that would be harmless/beneficial to people and avoided granting wishes that could be harmful. Sabino's wish is a great example. It seems innocent enough until you realize that granting it would entail mind controlling an entire generation of people.
Wish is really popular in Japan right now because they cast one of the best contemporary vocalists Fukuyama Masaharu as Magnifico, and everyone hate watches the movie and roots for the king lol
It's not even that they all think he did only good things, but that they sympathize with what drove him over the edge. In Japan, ingratitude, disloyalty, and unthankfulness is frowned upon.
That’s hilarious lol. I remember when Chicken Little came out, Japan was like the only country it was popular in, while the rest of the world pretty much hated it
@@pdd5793 algorithms don't understand what makes a good story they don't even really understand what a story is they just understand that 2 comes after 1 and before 3, and that this thing we call "words" has to be arranged in a certain order I recommend looking up the Chinese Room thought experiment
Her grandpas wish was to do something that inspired a generation & during the finale where the heroes have been defeated and lost hope, Asha sings a reprise and rallies everyone… WHY DIDNT THE GRANDPA? That’s such an obvious choice and they fumbled it and I’m still annoyed
Reminds me of how they fumbled the end of the Princess and the Frog fight between Tiana and Facilier. Where he's being dragged to ...wherever... by the spirits, he should have been shouting "But I was almost there!" It would have tied the protagonist and villain to a stronger dynamic by reprising Tiana's lyrics to indicate they were both driven by ambition but went about it differently. It would have mitigated just a tiny bit of the problem that the protagonist and the villain did not interact even once or have any interest in each other even tangentially before the climax.
Because then you'd have to address the fatalistic viewpoint of the need for wishes needing to be granted at all being required in order to achieve one's dreams. And how it conflicts with the notion of free will. If he can can grant his own wish through his own effort, then what's the point of any of the magic of wishes in the movie at all?
The fact that half way through the film basically forgets the fact the King is doing this because he’s scared about his home and kingdom being overtaken again. They didn’t even try to show that could of been a lie and he was power hungry all along. Nope just a random heel turn
Part of me thinks that King Magnifico should have gone down the "malicious compliance" route with Asha Let her see what granting EVERY wish entails and let her have "What have I done?!" moment,Asha apologizes and she gives her wish about undoing what she did. She understands the King's job better
The problem with that is it's one thing to shit up someone else's place of work by doing as they ask. It's something else to potentially ruin the lives of everyone in that kingdom, if not the world--and there may be a limit on how much can be undone.
@@Recoil1808 Maybe, maybe not But God essentially did the same thing in "Bruce Almighty". Some things look easy outside looking in but in the end, people like Asha don't learn until they see it for themselves
@@DragonGoddess18 theirs a saying “if you do your job right no one will know you did it” everything works so smoothly and perfectly that they barely notice anything changing or happening. However screwing up will get a lot more eyes on what you’re doing.
@@Pandaman64 but they didn't? That was the whole point of the Wonder Woman movie. Diana had to literally speak to everyone in the middle of their self inflicted apocalypse and TELL THEM they need to reject their wishes or the mess will never be fixed. Like, she herself didn't want to do it for half the movie. Wonder Woman 1984 absolutely did it better than Wish, in every possible aspect.
I'm just here thinking the guy who physically stood in for her dead lover technically did it without any consent of his own. Poor guy got used by Diana.
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, he started out as the good guy whose reasoning made tons of sense, then progressively got more stupid as the movie went on in order to force the idea that he was in the wrong the whole time. Meanwhile, she's just batshit insane the whole movie.
Even turning to the book wasn't all that unreasonable. He only did it as a last resort after checking all his other books and turning to his citizens for help (who wouldn't without the promise of wishes). Also, it was in response to sensing a powerful magic with the potential to destroy the entire kingdom. Effectively, he knew someone was walking around with the equivalent of a nuclear weapon. His motivation for using the book was good, too. He wanted to protect his kingdom and its people, and he was willing to risk corruption to do it.
Asha is probably responsible for the human apocalypse in the Disney animated universe. Only wish magic can create sentient toys, animals and cars that we see in the universe.
I like how from the very first trailer everyone agreed the King was actually the good guy weighing the merits of each wish and granting the ones that benefited the kingdom at large.
No, that's just a misconception. Even before he embraces the darker magic, he's still a pretty big prick. Like, he won't even grant harmless wishes like Saba Sabino becoming a musician, and trolls Asha at one point by acting like he will grant her grandfather's wish, only to choose some random lady.
You know what? The only thing that can fix this movie is to make Wish 2 that shows how Asha's action really backfired and try to fix it by bringing back Magnifico to help them to solve the wishes problem.
We could even make a trilogy where they defeat Sabino and his army of mind controlled teenagers who got inspired by him to found a fourth Reich. Then when the battle rages on and Magnifico turns to look at the camera, smiles and whispers "for the narrative" before dying.
And have Queen Amaya be the twist villain. That would explain her dropping Magnifico so easily. And she would want to eat the wishes like in the deleted scenes. Magnifico was just her pet. Amaya was the true villain. The only reason she helped Asha and her friends was because she wanted to overthrow the kingdom by getting rid of Magnifico.
5:30 honestly it was, if you ever watched TTS (Tangled the series) you see they did that with Rapunzel, but they actually treated not listening to other like a flaw that causes consequences, wich makes me even more dissapointed because Disney CAN make this a good flaw (as proven by TTS) but WONT.
@@elima5646 Yeeesh the funny thing is if you ask me who my favorite Disney protagonist is I’ll say Rapunzel, but my favorite tts character is a tie between Eugene and Varian lol
TTS was hilariously too good for what it should have been. It's also bizarrely existentially horrific, seriously the cute "we all turn into birds" episode plays out like Black Mirror, the boyfriend gets an episode... where he's threatened with sexual violence, the main character that has a "healing/life" song in the movie gets it broken so she gets a power up... "withering/death" song. That she likes. 😮 Disney, you throw dark!
She actually has a lot of flaws, she's just not aware and acts like she's perfect. 1. She's impulsive and makes rash decisions. 2. She doesn't have the ability to see things from someone elses point of view. 3. She's actually incompentent and doesn't do anything o solve her own problems. She just sings snd has a magical being do all of her bidding. 4. She just seems very fake, her quicky personality just feel like a people pleaser trying to be what she thinks everyone else wants her to be. 5. Hero complex. 6. No actual true connections to her family or friends, they could be replaced by animals and the movie would be no different, she just wants to help them and care for them - like pets. 7. No clear motivations. She wants a life better than this? Than what? You wanted to be the kings apprentice, that didn't work out, what's your new goal? Nobody knows! Her family has a nice house and people seem content with their lives. What does she want? Why is she not happy with the life she's got? She's not even 18 so she should still have HER wish right? WHAT IS IT? We never find out. Also couldn't the whole movie premise fail if people just, idc, wrote their wish down or told someone else about it before going to the king on their 18th birthday?
Finding logic in this "movie" should be a waste of time. But here's 2 of my biggest problem with this while watched it home. 1. The king said that he only grant wishes that benefits his kingdom. The traitor friend's wish was to be a loyal knight. Why didn't he granted this wish in the first place? It sounds like a slave on purpose. 2. It was stated that you will forget your wish once you "give it" to the king. Now if it's something from heart like cure someone's illnes then you won't forget that or you will "Re-Wish" that. If you forgot your wish,it wasn't strong at all. And here lies that everyone only made selfish,random wishes that you would simply forgot by time and would wish something else instantly. The movie gave as hints that they wanted to be a captain of a ship or be able to fly. It's so relatable and i felt the loss these people couldn't achieve. Like to be a captain all she had to do was build a ship with friends...nooo i'm just waiting for someone else to do it for me. The king is so mean. I couldn't express the hate i got while watching this "movie" Bonus: if one man wishes that the sky should be green and another woman to be pink then whose wish would be granted? Asha i'm asking you because you grant everyone's wish am i right? If someone wants someone killed then the wish should be granted because it's a wish! Agh...
now that you mention it. its just crazy that disney trys so hard to paint her with these flaws as a hero and she learns nothing to improve herself as a hero. it feels so fake, which was so disappointing that they also had great concept art as well as a better version of the song at all cost. i want to go back to princess love stories. i'm sick and tired of the unrealistic girl boss trope
The problem with all the flaws you listed is that the film doesn't treat them like flaws at all. Sit learns nothing, and is the exact same person at the beginning as she is at the end.
This movie could have had potential if it was written better. Let's say that Magnifico is actually talking sense (he was - some wishes could potentially be dangerous if granted) but Asha still has the desire to grant every wish. We keep the plot going up until she prays to whatever god listens and, instead of a marketable star boy, she is granted the power to grant wishes by a shooting star. With the power, she makes peoples' lives better, but Magnifico combats it and we think he's a villain for it. Asha is granting everything without a thought, until a threat endangers the kingdom. Magnifico is able to track the source of the magic back to her and angrily states "You put us all in danger! One of the wishes you granted has weakened our defences!" (Something like letting the guards go home early so they can spend time with their families). Magnifico hurries Asha to his castle and shows her what wreckless granting has done and how it's going to take them both to sort it out, teaching Asha a very valuable lesson about taking responsibility and using her brain when it's most needed. Tl;Dr - Don't make Magnifico a villain, have Asha learn a lesson, and don't let that goat exist
They could include the star character by having a younger Magnifico wish for "an heir whose magic surpasses his own" After that wish, his wife never bears a child, making him think something went wrong. This is what causes him to be extra cautious about wishes. In the third act the star could transform into a boy, who is discovered to be his long lost son
@@jc1979af Take it a step further: turn Magnifico into an eventual MENTOR for Asha by having his backstory be an EXACT PARALLEL to Asha's: EG, he granted every wish indiscriminately once out of the same naieve good intentions and ended up unintentionally creating a massive threat to the kingdom that he then had to deal with... which led him to realize he can't just grant every wish, even if he wants to. When Asha confronts him with the same idealism he used to have, he decides to just step aside with a 'You think you can do it better? Alright... give it a try.' because he knows FULL WELL that nothing he says is gonna dissuade this stubborn girl or get her to understand, she's just gonna have to learn the hard way. When she inevitably creates a kingdom-level threat herself (or makes the kingdom vulnerable she goes to Magnifico to try and figure out what went wrong, or blame him for it, which he then just turns and tells her to her face HE didn't do this, SHE did, this is why it is he doesn't grant every wish, and making people forget their wishes when he doesn't grant them was an apology so they wouldn't be unhappy about that wish going ungranted due to not remembering it. You can even transform him into a TWIST HERO by initially setting him up like a villain hoarding ungranted wishes for power, but revealing that actually all along he used the power of the ungranted wishes to hold back the threat he made instead, choosing protecting everyone over his own power and his own ideals.
Inagine if the big twist and lesson of the film is that arrogant self assurance and expectations of how you think the world should work can lead to terrible consequences, and the villain was never actually the villain at all. And by the end, Asha learns that perhaps she should look deeper into things to understand why they are the way they are rather than going in a gut reaction and trying to tear down a system she doesn't understand.
This is exactly why this would have never been made canon with the actual Disney fauna. It goes against the political narrative and such nuances could be perceived as a CONSERVATIVE POV !!! (Insert lightning here)
Tbch i was hyper sus of the king not having a heir or two already at his age, he’s a fking KING, he’s supposed to father a few children, if only to ensure the security and safety of his kingdom down the road when he decides to retire someday.
@@markjosephbacho5652 True- it seems she had no friends then, huh? Her only “friend” would have been her husband- kinda weird.. (I know you’re being sarcastic maybe, but it did bring some things to mind //)
Ahhh yes, the movie where the villain is completely in the right and running a legitamitely happy and peaceful kingdom. And halfway through the writers realized that so they made the villain unhinged and stupid in the space of two minutes while making all the NPCs love the heroine without any justification whatsoever and NEVER making her suffer the consequences of her actions... ...anybody remember when Disney films were GOOD? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
@@Granad784 The movie starts with a thoroughly happy and prosperous kingdom with a ruler who tries to fulfill wishes and enrich the lives of his subjects? Check. Protagonist finds out not every wish is granted and the "villain" explains he must vet wishes to ensure they won't cause disasters (which a perfectly sane r4sponse). Check. When the protagonist runs away and gets a deus ex machina to grant ALL WISHES EVER, the "villain" not only tries to prevent the chaos of this, but suddenly engages in Machiavellian power trips and driving his citizens into mob mentality? Check. The protagonist creates a resistance and overthrows the kingdom, convincing people to give up peace, prosperity and huge amounts of freedom because "some of your crazier wishes aren't granted!" Check. Despite all this upheaval, there isn't ONE person harmed by her actions. Not one wish that colossally backfires that she must permanently deal with the consequences of, and not ONE person besides the villain that ultimately disagrees with her actions whatsoever. Check. Your counterargument is awaited with baited breath, sir or madam.
W-well, uhhh..... I guess having a first evil Disney princess is kinda cool, right....? Uh... Yeah, I got nothing. Asha sucks and King Magnifico deserves a hug.
No he doesn't. Even before he's corrupted by dark magic, he makes it quite clear that if a wish isn't helpful to him and him alone, they're not worthy and that he takes wishes so that he can have all the power.
@@CanyonCoyoteYeah, that was the *supposed* goal, but they didn't execute it very well. Like.... *at all.* The deleted scenes of this film showed this 10x better than the final product
It'd be cool... if they'd done it intentionally. If Asha was doing the Disney villain thing of being blatantly aware of how evil what they are doing is and enjoying it. Maleficent shows up everywhere for a reason.
@@tiamystic most people that work on movies don't make a lot. It's why there was worker strikes for the actors and writers. They get mistreated by the studios.
I remember when in Bruce Almighty he got lazy, granted everyone's wishes and Armageddon started immediately, because some people wished for the end of all existence and chaos.
@@incrediblefunk7220 it has a lot to do with it. It explains the logical consequences of the goals of the Protagonist in a much clearer and mainstream way than citing stuff like the Probability Pump.
Never liked the movie because of that. Godly powers were basically granted to a selfish, irresponsible moron. Oh what? Things went wrong? Wow, what a valuable lesson, God. Oh and it was so fair of you to not give Bruce your higher mental faculties and just have a normal person's head be invaded with all the prayers on the planet.
As a manager for the League of Evil, good on Disney for making a movie where the villain finally wins for once. Really brought some morale to the team here at HQ.
1:25 If the rejected wishes simply included things like, a parent’t wish for their child’s illness to be cured. that would’ve gone SO FAR to actually make the villain a bad guy. All they had to do was show him hoarding power, by rejecting obviously not-bad wishes. like. Show him not granting a wish that would’ve brought peace or ended a war. something!
Heck you could even make "reject curing a child's illness" part of a fraud in Asha uncovering that the king actively manipulates people into making big wishes like "cure an entire disease" resulting in: 1. Multiple people being cured at the same time 2.That person pays some kind of price for altering fate 3.The king keeps the "rejected" wishes to extend his life and power and 4. People believe the king is granting 1000 wishes every year when he only fulfills a couple AND other people pay the price
All they had to do was show him hoarding power, by rejecting obviously not-bad wishes. "They did." He ignored Asha's grandfather's wish to be a musician. He thought his music would "start an uprising".
@@icecreamhero2375 So how does that effect the grandfather? Is he sad at all? Does the lack of being able to live his dream haunt him? Does he have a dusty old instrument that sadly sits unused on a shelf? Or does the movie show him as basically fine?
This movie made the "villain" the most sane guy in the entire story. How are you going to grant every wish to every single person? If someone wants to end with everyone else existence? That person deserves their wish to be granted?
@@incrediblefunk7220 Not every wish, but any wish. Magnifico explained that he wouldn't grant dangerous wishes, which is what Asha was opposed to. And now she's off granting *every* wish, including the ones that might be dangerous.
@@dominickeijzer5844Asha asked the king to return wishes that he had no intention of granting. Her rationale was that the owners of such wishes could try to fulfill them by themselves. In doing that, activities that stem from wishes that are detrimental to the safety of Rosas could be sniffed out and stopped (Rather than "castrating" people's minds). Also, at the end, Asha, by becoming a fairy god mother did not have the power to "grant" wishes (in the way that Magnifico did), she could "assist" people as they worked towards achieving their wishes. I think the message that Disney was trying to pass across was "Let your heart be free to dream. Dare to go after your dreams no matter how unattainable such dreams might seem. Even if you do not achieve them the exactly as you dreamed, you will still gain something from the pursuit". All that being said, I think Disney failed at passing that message across, hence all the backlash. Disney also failed in their portrayal of Magnifico as a villain. His exact motivations were unclear. I wondered why he chose to grant only one wish per month (according to the "Welcome to Rosas" song). Did granting wishes deplete his magical energy? Or did he have something specific he had to gain from accumulating wishes in his study? One could assume that he had become addicted to the "hopeful" aura he got from the wishes which led to his reluctance to let go of wishes. I think just an explicit depiction of him using the wishes as a coping mechanism (for the great loss he alluded to). The "At all costs" song hinted at such an addiction, but apparently, that imagery was not strong enough to portray his villainy (albeit misguided and unintended at the start) to the audience.
Magnifico singlehandedly created a utopia where all races and creeds live in peace, even granting their wishes which next to NONE of them would ever achieve on their own....and one whiny, petulant teenager destroyed the kingdom. Cuz you know things are going to completely fall apart and the harmony enjoyed under the King's rule is gone. At least a few of those wishes were desires to do REALLY evil stuff. Also, Magnifico was technically not acting of his own accord once the book consumed him, so technically Disney is doing all this to a victim. Magnifico was possessed by the book, he has literally been mind graped, and instead of rescuing him, they frame him as just being evil.
Honestly it's incredibly easy to turn Magnifico into a villain. *ahem* King Magnifico only grants wishes that benefit him, such as 'I wish to be mighty warrior!' (becomes a demigod super soldier), 'I want to be a great adventurer of the seas!' (becomes an unbeatable privateer who steals from other nearby nations), or 'I want to be a great hero!' (Magnifico starts a war, and makes the wishers a tactical genius who leads Magnifico's armies to heroic victories and conquests). Literally that's it. Maybe throw in some subtle mind control or indoctrination so those who have their wishes granted don't turn on him, and yeah there'd probably need to be some rewrites around that.
Or alternatively they could follow the actual starting message "be careful what you wish for" and instead of making magnifico evil in the midpoint of the film for no reason, they could make ASHA the villain. It would be kinda fun
You know Wish fumbled the ball when an animated Adam Sandler movie outdid them critically. That has to be the biggest disappointment since The Black Cauldron got outdone by the Care Bears Movie. EDIT: apparently I didn’t know Leo was on streaming services and not in the box office.
Magnifeco basically said out loud that the reason he dosent grant certain wishes is because they could lead to catastrophie and the title picture tells that perfectly with asha saying grant all wishes and magnefico saying that has to be the worst idea in the existance of ideas
Oh yeah i totally believe that ahsha is the fairy godmother form Cinderella guess she just decided that she didn't want to be black after a few centuries
A Cinderella with a Black Fairy Godmother can work. I liked the Whitney Houston Version. Just don’t claim that the Fairy Godmother from the pre-existing 1950s Disney Cinderella movie is the same person as this character. That’s where things get ridiculous.
2:26 ok listen. We NEVER get to hear Chris Pine’s angelic voice because he very rarely takes singing roles, we FINALLY get one, and it’s THIS. I want justice.
I can’t believe it took until this video for people to realize the movie was a Zootopia prequel./s Loved seeing all those Fairly Odd Parents thrown in there.
You know what's funny about this whole situation? DreamWorks just recently happened to also make a movie about wishes, which also have the word "Wish" on its title, and that movie was praised by everyone!
If people really didnt know that Magnifico may withold their wishes, I would say he is a bit evil for not making the details of the wish contract clear. I think Asha is wrong because she ignored everone's free will and took it upon herself to "save" the kingdom. There were probably many people who would have happily given up their wishes even knowing they will never be granted. The kingdom was safe and its not like people only make one wish their whole lives Edit: I want to add that I know the movie was trying to show that Magnifico taking a wish was like taking a piece of someone's soul. The issue is that they failed to commit and only made one character suffer any sort of long term consequences (that big tall kid). Magnifico never allowing people to learn magic or take back their wishes isn't good either. I think this sort of plot is too complex for a single movie and they should have gone with something else. If this happened IRL a citizen like Asha would have more likely slowly got some people to join her side and either left the kingdom to make their own settlement or slowly formed a rebellion. Disney basically fast forwarded the plot and made everything feel cheap by ramping Magnifico's evilness. One moment he was sympathetic with a tragic backstory and the next he's suddenly a psycho narcissist.
"if people really didnt know that Magnifico may withold their wishes, I would say he is a bit evil for not making the details of the wish contract clear." tbf im not sure there is much motivation for this anyway? like he could just say "ill grant peoples wishes provided they are not detrimental to the kingdom". The way its set up makes it come across like the writers were halfway through making the script and then realized hes not actually evil.
The "wishes being part of the soul" stuff also doesn't really work when the majority of the wishes we see were very inconsequential. Am I supposed to believe that people wanting to flap their wings and fly like a bird or wanting a nanny is a vital part of their essence as a human being?
@Scillamar the whole setup didn't make sense. For people with serious wishes, forgetting their life's dream would require a horrifying case of amnesia or something worse. Imagine someone's mom is sick and their wish is for a cure. How would they forget and stop wishing that their mom would be cured?
I sort of figured the only one soldier guy was just kind of ornamental. Like, he’s only there because the kingdom should have a knight, but since the king can grant wishes there hasn’t been any crime, rebellion, taxes, etc up to this point, so why maintain an army/police force. This also explains why the king keeps appealing to the people to find the traitors, because there’s no group of trained professionals who he can send instead.
The hilarious thing about Disney making a movie about a main character wanting every wish to be granted is that past Disney films who had someone or something granting wishes had rules preventing someone going crazy with wish granting and consequences. So the company coming out with this is laughable. They really failed this one.
true, they also had either the wish granter be evil, power lead into used for evil eventually until stopped or subtile like the fairy god mother granting Cinderella a dress so she could go to the ball (or the mice's dedication to make the dress)
@@yep1486and she only gave Cinderella the tools her stepfamily took away from her, and from then on, Cinderella was left on her own really, Cinderella ended up winning because she played her cards right and used all the help she got and had available to get out of the horrible situation she was at, and had to outsmart her stepfamily to not just be able to leave, but also so they can't attack back because they're spiteful as hecc Which is a similar approach to Magnifico, except people of Rosas definitely don't struggle nearly as much as Cinderella, to the people of Rosas the magic is just a plus because their lives are already well covered by Magnifico, to Cinderella it was her golden ticket to freedom she had to keep a very strong grasp on so greedy selfish individuals couldn't take it away and condemn her to a miserable life
Yeah, remember Genie from Aladdin? He was basically all powerful, but even he had rules he literally couldn't break because they'd be horrible or have awful consequences.
I'm confident in the use of A LOT of different IA to write this movie, because to put all this shit together and make it into theater realeses, you must be a very bad wirter, a 5 year old, a guy with no jugement or very very drunk. AI can combine all of that, and Disney isnt stoobid enough to hire dogpoop wirters
@@tilted_stars Not really. AI can make a more interesting but less cohesive story. This is simply a result of too many rewrites in order to satisfy corporate demands for "safe, family friendly and politically correct" products. There's an old classic saying for it "Too many cooks spoil the broth."
Granting all wishes is like a self destruct button cause in the words of the Sniper, “As long as there are two people on earth, some one is going to want some one dead.”
What we could have got: -evil villain couple -Asha is a princess and the adventurous/quizzical type. (not the only princess, she has a younger sister who is quiet, meek, a book worm, has no powers, etc) -Asha and starboy love story after starboy falls from the sky after Asha uses her magic powers to make a wish -asha's younger sibling doesn't have any magic powers but Asha does. -Asha and starboy have a love duet -asha's parents are the king and queen, and at first they seem nice (we the audience think so) but then we find out they are evil. (Plot twist) -not as many friends in the story, maybe 2 or 3 sidekicks. -queen accident by Asha/starboy and king goes crazy evil in 3rd act of story because his love is gone -talking goat is funny, and no dancing chickens -star boy saves the kingdom against the king with his magic in 3rd act, not Asha (Asha is the damsel in distress, at least for that finale part) -starboy decides to stay in the kingdom and marry Asha and not go back to the stars, Asha gives the throne to her younger sibling and everyone lives happily ever after. The king is thrown in jail (if they want to make a second movie). -the movie ends with Asha becoming the very first fairy godmother and gets the very first magic wand (aka, asha's town is the village/kingdom were Cinderella's fairy godmother is from, this is hinted at in the movie, which ties together Disney lore but also makes the story interesting)
For references sake, They could have still trapped magnifico in the mirror and had the queen escape with it, making her the evil queen from Snow White.
Asha being royalty would also allow the kingdom to LOOK utopian even jf it isn't really. Instead we have a utopian kingdom doing incredibly well thanks to responsible wish magic.
Because Disney hasn’t known how to make full length Mickey Mouse movies for two whole decades? And I’m pretty sure their heads would explode if you asked a Disney producer what to do with Oswald.
5:50 WHAT??? HECK THATS A MORE EVIL ENDING THAN ANY OTHER DISNEY'S VILLAIN HAS GOTTEN EVER, heck even the hero on those movies is regretful about the bad guy dying, she is a sociopath at this point
@@whothefrickareyou8106 Let's not forget he's still possessed by that demonic evil book thing that they never saved him from. They never even noticed he was possessed somehow?? Like who doesn't notice there is clearly something wrong with the king who created a utopia when all of a sudden his magic turned green and is attempting to drain hope from his people?!??
He was barely a bad guy at this point, like girl if I saw this movie suddenly I'd think she is more of the bad person and the King wa sjust trying to keep things organised
So the king studies wishing magic for years and along the way learns of its true potential and thus consequences when used wrong, but Asha wishes on a star ONCE and immediately gets his powers? WOW…
You also can't ignore the fact the Star granted Asha's wish instantly. So I guess no one else ever asked to get a wish granted. It wasn't like Asha's was insanely selfless or anything either. All she really cared about was her Grandfathers wish and no one else's.
Asha being the initiator of the conflict is what bothers me. It clashes with the plot up until then and highlights how little vision she has. Her motivation or you could say inspiration to apply as an apprentice is to help have her grandfather's wish granted, who instead of working towards his dream has been waiting a century for someone to just give it to him and even then he still succeeded with his granddaughter. Without Asha's vexing Magnifico wouldn't have gone down the road of villainy, had she completed her apprenticeship more wishes would have been granted. Disney has plenty of stories where someone takes something and sets events in motion but generally it's either from an established villain or they see the error of their way and return it to an otherwise benevolent ruler/entity/etc. having grown in the process. A better story would have MAgnifico exploiting the productivity of his kingdom who's inhabitants toil ceaselessly in the hopes of winning the jackpot and having their wish granted. Asha's motivation could have been a thoughtless bureaucrat destroying her parents dream (insert whatever) and her quest to right this wrong leads to a revolution. Freed of Magnifico the inhabitants of the kingdom may not get their wishes granted but now they're free to pursue them on their own and make it happen by their own ability. Really anything is better than the downfall of the old hero being a result of the actions of the "new" hero.
Magnifico didnt even go for awful magic when things got weird either. He genuinely felt that his kingdom was threatened. Asha is literally the villian.
First, the doodles aren’t bad, they’re actually really charming. False advertising. Second, “caring too much” could have been a decent flaw. Think about it. Any trait can be a flaw if pushed. “I care too much, so I enable the destructive behavior of my friends so they don’t have to change.” “I care too much, so I suppress my sense of self worth when people walk all over me.” “I care too much, so I force people to bend to my way of thinking because I only have their best interests at heart.” Even the very source of caring too much can be born from selfishness, vanity, self righteous belief, etc. Asha caring too much could have been an interesting flaw for a disney protagonist, and could certainly teach a lesson about thinking before acting or getting more than your own opinion for decisions. In an alternate plot line, perhaps asha’s “caring too much” leads to her giving endless wishes to everyone. This eventually leads to, I don’t know, tangible and engaging conflict. Her careless actions results in damages and injury. A woman gets her wish to fly granted, and she uses it to steal from people easily (or she crashes into a window). She makes a kid’s home out of gingerbread, so rats and bugs eat it as it rots in front of him and his family. Two warring neighbors keep wishing for their pumpkin to be the biggest for a fair and eventually, one pumpkin the size of a wagon rolls down and smashes into something. I don’t mean to act like these ideas are masterpieces of creativity, or that asha specifically •had• to have “caring too much as a flaw. My point is that her goal seems like a good setup for a “careful what you wish for” movie, and then it fumbles around with no identity and falls flat on its face. It’s so poorly told, that people •genuinely believe• magnifico, the supposed villain, is in the right (lets his people live in his kingdom rent free, tells them about the wish rule beforehand, etc). Instant gratification for wish giving is hardly rejected in the narrative besides the implication of a Wendy and peter pan lookalike pair building a plane to make it come true. Im sorry this comment is long, but it’s frustrating that the 100nth anniversary movie is so generic, taking the easy way out as asha seems to think should be done, and rejecting the true hard work done by the great predecessors to make disney a wish come true. I can’t look at this film and think about what we could have gotten. Third, we were robbed on starboy but artist online are to the rescue!Support all the artists who make better wish content than the people behind the official wish did. They deserve your attention and praise. You deserve to see a good, competent rendition of this film, even if only in small animatics or fanart.
So this movie is written assuming no one would ever wish for anything bad ever. How many times has a hormonal teenager wished "I wish everyone would just die!"
Like in "Zathura" (2005), the astronaut who is resuced by the two brothers was a player with his younger brother, but they got mad at each other to the point the older brother wished his younger brother had never been born. When it was granted he realised what he had done but couldn't rectify it as it wasn't his turn thus he was trapped in the game world as a consequence. (I avoided anything spoilerly in case nobody has seen a nearly 20 year old movie)
the funniest part of the movie for me was when in his song they tried to make us think that granting 14 wishes in a year is a low amount of wishes to grant when 1. he doesn't have to grant any wishes and 2. there is supposedly one wish ceremony per month and from what we've seen so far usually only one person gets their wish granted at a wish ceremony, meaning that he doubled up on wishes twice which actually does make 14 wishes higher than the average
Basically, Asha is the Disney version of Burnham from ST: Discovery, driven by a hero complex, and feels morally justified and the narrative tries to bend over backward to MAKE them right despite an examination of the situations and facts indicated...yeah not as much as they want us to believe.
Disney Villain Crimes: Scar-Stole the throne from Mufasa, attempted to kill Simba Gaston-Attempts to force Belle to marry him+kills Beast (temporarily) Shan Yu-Destroyed a village, attempted to overthrow the Emperor Mother Gothel-Kidnaps Rapunzel as a baby and uses her powers to stay young Magnifico-Doesn’t grant everyone’s wish
They completely blew a chance to make a subversive, thoughtful movie. Of all the twist disney villains, they could have made the HERO the twist villain by showing us exactly how horrible granting every wish automatically would mean. I know its a kid's movie but seriously that could have actually been awesome.
It's still so funny that they had a whole movie concept planned, had time to change it yet still missed that their villain had to actually be evil. Asha was so fundamentally in the wrong with everything that it's amazing no one saw she was the real villain all the time
@@Granad784 Stop trying to be a contrarian when the movie you defend is so garbage that people believe the “Villain” and “Hero” should’ve swapped places. The “Villain” is fundamentally correct and the “Hero” is a petulant teenager.
Even worse, the Star just does stuff without any regard to wishes. It made a whole ton of livestock randomly sapient. Might cause some issues for the farmers. The Queen is very strange in the film, she immediately turns on her longtime husband and is fine with him being trapped in a mirror. Guess they didn't marry for love.
Her: Grant Everyone's Wish! King: Okay, Next! Me: I wish no one's wishes came true. King: Whelp I gotta do it, my hands are tied. Her: No you can't grant his wish! King: Sorry, you said all wishes have to be granted, no exceptions.
@@Granad784 Then what did she want? A more lenient approach to giving out wishes? So why did she grant everyone’s wishes if that wasn’t what she wanted?
Her lack of flaws causing her to be forgettable and the Star being changed just to make more marketable is accurate
The only memorable thing about her is her voice.
And what exactly were Cinderellas flaws? Auroras? Snow White?
@sageseeker9197. I don't remember Aurora enough but I think one could say Cinderella and Snow White were door mats who always had to obey their stepmothers until life forced them out into situations where they had to disobey them in order to live.
Also Arial was the opposition. She never listened and , although she had a happy ending) it was essentially to clean up the mess that she created. Jasmine was sheltered and stubborn ( but very smart) Belle was just kind of a weirdo, somewhat antisocial. She preferred books to making friends. Hyper protective of her dad to the point were she had no social life. However she wad mature beyond her years and compassionate. Mulan (not a princess) was reduced to an awkward clumsy mess whenever she was put in a stressful situation. She could never live up to people's expectations bringing a shame to her entire family. But she found that when it really counted she could rise to the occatiom and saved China!
@@sageseeker9197Isn't it fairly well know that those characters are also relatively forgettable, outside of being princesses from early Disney movies? Not saying they're bad, just that there isn't really much to remember apart from the above. Sleepy beauty and my own memory as an example, I'd wager I remember about as much of Maleficent's Crow or her... pig minions(?) as I do Aurora (mostly due to popular media and design for the minions tbf, but popular media is popular media and good design is good design)
Tldr. Am casual, felt general consensus is they aren't remembered much, unfortunately fall into that camp, Maleficent seems neat tho
++let me know if Aurora or the others are secretly super interesting, internet doesn't bring her or the others up much
Making a movie where the villain is the plucky girl teenager, and the middle aged guy is the hero would be fun.
yes. Yes. YES.
I could totally see twitter complaining about it and claiming it's "problematic" or something, since it would basically be calling out half the people on twitter with main character complexes
It was great in Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
Not sure about movies, but there are isekai fantasy mangas and webtoons out there revolving around uncles/aunties ending up getting caught in hero summoning shenanigans and the antagonists are the schoolboy/girl that believe they are the chosen ones and act hella entitled about it
We'd have a Monogatari series moment, like the one between Kaiki and Nadeko, lmao.
The king created a utopia where everyone could live happily while filtering wishes so that people with bad or impossible wishes can't get them.
And somehow he's a villain.
Yup. The irony is this is what Make a wish Foundation people actually do. For every 1 cancer patient getting a 7 million dollar football stadium, there's another having their wish to meet a celebrity rejected or denied. Or parents hijacking a wish to meet a sports star into "I wish i had 10,000$ to spend on jewelry products and a supermall for mommy"
It's kinda horrendous a wish to do good for people ends up being exploited. There are also Fan theories that although Asha or the hollywood writers don't seem to think of Magnifco other than a "villain for saying no and having boundaries".
Some of his behaviors could line up with someone with Complex Post Tramuatic Stress disorder attempting to protect others from a past trauma himself.
- He cares for others, at first, even if they spit on him.
- When pressed he snaps and has a panic attack or retreats into a survival response. While at first his first "fault", it's common for real life Trauma Victims to have 'leftovers' from a fight or flight instinct. Considering we don't even know if anyone Magnifico grew up with is alive but himself. It couldn't be unheard for his "evil selfish intentions" to want to be the person he himself might have wished he had as a child.
I know right? Keeping even their memories of the wish isn't great, but the system is clearly WORKING until he goes crazy and the damage to your mental health isn't usually that bad unless the wish is outright destroyed.
And keep in mind that the people of Rosas WILLINGLY give up their wishes to live in this utopia
@@fractalgem I mean, that could be debatable. Some wishes could result someone losing their ability to choose for themselves, have one person getting pulled in multiple directions, or even ruin multiple lives. Taking away the memory of those wishes could potentially result is someone moving on from an unhealthy obsession.
If her grandpa’s wish was granted, he wouldn’t have been a villain.
Asha: "No one person should be in charge of granting wishes!"
Also Asha: Ends up being the one person in charge of granting wishes.
The movies lesson is essentially “it’s only ok if I do it because I’m right.” She becomes everything The King was with even more power while The King who made some really good points for why he’s not indiscriminate gets locked in a mirror forever. Because that’s fair.
@@Broomer52also, the king's job wasn't just granting wishes, he provided the people with all the things they need to live and thrive, without him, their lives are now guaranteed gonna be far more miserable than ever before, even if they take things by their own hands, its gonna be one heck of a rocky start, life will never be better than Magnifico's utopia, and they're now open to all sorts of dangers and corruption because he made sure to keep all out of his kingdom and his peoples
Every demand for equality is secretly a maneuver for supremacy by weak people.
@@Broomer52Sequel where King Magnifico escapes the mirror, comes back and has a massive "I told you so!" musical number, then spends the rest of the film trying to fix the shit show protagonist girl left him?
I want Magnifico and Hans team up 😂😂😂
What I'm afraid of is that Disney will see Wish tank and think "Original Stories =/= Profit" and they'll keep making lazy live action remakes, but if Wish succeeded they'd see it more as Lazy Poorly Written Original Stories = Profit
A no-win scenario for us the audience
They need to do live action remakes with the muppets.
You're exactly right and they've already been doing it. Movies like Strange World are allowed to take pretty much all the risks they want, only to die on arrival because Disney refuses to market them so they can hold them up as evidence for audiences not wanting original ideas. Treasure Planet (my favorite movie) suffered the same fate back in the early 2000s, even though it was a complete labor of love and the directors had to fight for the right to even START the project
@@amethyst_cat9532I actually didn’t mind Strange World. It was enjoyable for the most part. Saw barely any marketing for it.
@@amethyst_cat9532 Yeah the pass couple of years, if not longer. Disney has really been keen on. Forcing the viewer to like what they want them to like. Rather than let the viewer enjoy what they please and cater to a reasonable degree, to that demand. While if something doesn't have their approval, they will gladly let it die due to lack of marketing or simply try to lock it up, to never see the light of day.
Which having seen the original concept for wish. Wow they sound way more interesting than the movie we got. Like I would love to see a movie base off of these original concepts. With the evil couple. Star not being turned into a marketable plushie. For the movie that we got. It like, wait a minute. Did disney hire people who have never watched a disney movie before to create this film? For the idea granting every wish is a bad idea. Has been done before in older disney films. Like Aladdin, where you quickly learn oh hey. The power to grant wishes, can easily turn into a bad thing, should that power fall into the wrong hands. Which is why the King seems reasonable. For disney themselves have shown it a bad idea to grant every wish. Like yeah this film is flawed.
My boyfriend and I were so prepared for a possible twist where the Queen was actually evil and used Asha as a pawn in her coup to take over the kingdom. When King Magnifico was sealed, we were like "THIS IS IT THIS IS IT" only for nothing to happen. That's it, that's the story lmao.
Honestly could have saved the movie. Obviously would need more work to go from bad to great, but having it end with Asha needing to team up with Magnigico and realize that actually he was on to something all while he realizes that actually he had some issues to work through, before teaming up to defeat an evil queen who now uses all the magic for herself would have had so much more impact.
I think having the naive student character that want all these free things provided by the state end up being little more than a useful idiot puppeteered and used by an outside force to overthrow the powers that be for their own nefarious purposes probably would not have rubbed well with Disneys "Modern Audience"
@@rhysjonsmusic Yeah well neither did what we got😅
@@rhysjonsmusic i mean it's a pretty accurate depiction at least.
At least you had a more enjoyable viewing experience 😆
Seriously, his policy was LOGICAL AND CORRECT!
There's a TON of Wish Gone *Wrong* stories out there FOR GOOD REASONS!
I wish humans had humanity 🤷♂️
The whole monkey paw shit is about that
Not to mention he became a completely different character midway through. Once the book took him over, he became a victim. But rather than try to free him from the book's evil influence, everyone, INCLUDING HIS WIFE, was just all "nope you're just 🗑️, let's all throw you in the bin".
@@WobblesandBean Clearly, this is the thanks he gets (for creating a stable kingdom in a violent time beset by banditry, where everyones' needs are met and where there isn't some secret jean O'side going on behind the curtain, which people willingly flocked to).
He's an amazing selfless king, probably the best Disney ever had
When the original concept was better than what we got in the end
I wish that Disney makes the animated movie again using the original ideas.
Also deleted scnes
Disney likes to recycle, so its very likely they'll remake the movie at some point.
Personally, I wish they'd just release the Director's Cut now.
My theory is that the concept was made before the writers strike. Then the strike came and no one will write the story or let alone the script. So they turned to AI to turn their concept into a movie script which cut alot of things out. They try to edit the story a bit vut failed because there was no human creativity or talent on the script
Having a romance between a girl and a magical Starboy is too backwards, sexist and heteronormative.
You know, Disney could have done the "too nice" trope, where the king is so kind that it is harming the city of Rosas. He fulfills EVERY wish and feels underappreciated. Asha could have been the voice of pragmatism while all the city is in chaos due to their wishes being fulfilled one after the other. This song matchs the vibe. Also, the line 'be careful what you wish for', on the movie's poster would be matching the theme, this way.
OMG YES
But there wouldn't be an *actual* villain and Disney doesn't want that. Bad= bad and good= good, or else the kids won't learn anything useful. Can't have a seemingly kind action (granting every wish) be seen as anything but 100% good. They think kids are too stupid to understand nuance.
@@catscanhavelittleasalami But Wish also celebrates 100 years of Disney, and adding depth will be like a love letter to Disney's past. They don't have to aim it at the kids. They should focus on older Disney fans
@catscanhavelittleasalami Who is the villain in Wish, though? Disney wants us to believe it's Magnifico, but he founded Rosas on an uninhabited island, took in refugees from all over the world without discrimination, provided for them, collected no taxes, and allowed anyone, regardless of status, to petition him for one wish. From what we see, Rosas is a utopia, and the king doesn't benefit at all. He does everything purely out of the goodness of his heart, and his people just use him.
Even when he turned to the book, it was because he sensed an extremely powerful magic that he thought could destroy his entire kingdom, and he only turned to it after checking every other book in his library and turning to his citizens for help (who selfishly demanded a wishing ceremony in exchange). There was someone walking around with the equivalent of a nuclear weapon, and Magnifico resorted to extreme measures and undertook extreme personal risk to stop that person from harming anyone. His actions don't exactly scream "villain."
You know what does, though? Torture. The people he gave everything to and sacrificed everything for choose to torture him once he's trapped in the mirror. His "loyal" wife immediately starts calling him an "it" and orders for him to be tortured despite knowing he's corrupted by dark magic. No attempt is made to save him. No one mourns for him. He's already completely helpless and at their mercy, and they choose to inflict additional suffering on him for no reason. Even when corrupted, Magnifico wasn't that evil.
@@mr.histor1996agree. This movie shouldn't be viewed by children. Because the moral message is wrong.
Disney really thinks that not granting every wish makes you a villain.
TFW the worst Wonder Woman movie understood the lesson that indiscriminate wish granting causes chaos better than this movie, and that's the one where Wonder Woman sexually abuses an unconscious dude
Its crazy. These people have lost it.
Encanto didn’t need a villain
@@DORAisD34D They should have either go full force with the villainy or go the Encanto route and have no villains.
@@justinn8541akaDrPokemon that’s true. Encanto shows that a movie without a villain can work, but Wish was stuck with trying to make the villain be evil yet making his motive reasonable
If they had gone with the evil couple concept I 100% believe we’d have people ogling the Queen the same way they did Magnifico.
Yeah, but we can´t have a female villain or a villain power couple nowadays, because reasons
I guess it was for girlboss girlpower purposes? (but she could've been a villain girlboss :( )
@@patrickkelmer6290 Because women can't be evil! That's super sexist because other reasons!!
@@teehee781Mother Gothel was a blast actually. And Shrek Fairy God Mother. Gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss all day every day
but women can't do anything bad therefore can't be evil
Wish is the story of a powerful yet traumatized king that tried to grant people a paradise being overthrown by the people he tried to protect because he didn't give them more stuff.
No uh....I think it's because the dictator of a false paradise won't return peoples literal souls after being politely asked to. They're not asking for stuff. They're asking for the chance to even try to fulfill it themselves.
Honestly the whole flaw is in making him sympathetic at all. They should've known media literacy is at an ATL these days and went full villain mode. Would've been more fun anyhow.
@KekerikiGreen He didn't take people's souls. He was GIVEN their wishes. He either granted them or protected them, but either way, it was good for the wisher. He founded his kingdom on an uninhabited island, and everyone came there willingly to live under his rule and potentially have their wishes granted. He also provided for them and didn't collect taxes, so he got nothing in return, and people (like Asha) just used him.
Do you want to know the best way to tell that he wasn't exploiting his people? His "villain" song is him complaining about being exploited. The people of Rosas, in general, and Asha, in particular, are evil and selfish people.
@@mr.histor1996 Okay, jokes on me. Haha, you got your bait. There’s no way you’re not a troll. Please do something more productive.
That was his only real flaw in that regard, he was so generous, everyone saw him as bad the moment he refused to give them one thing for justified reasons, something they didn't even remember what it was, they just became obsessed with the idea of winning the lottery and getting even more free stuff, they never ever stopped and thought if they needed it at all, especially those that had spent years without their wish ever getting granted, which at this point they might as well be following a completely different path and have found happiness there so much even just getting that old wish back may not be that good of an idea
@mr.histor1996 the second I read the kid writing "false paradise" I gave up and laughed 💀
"Be careful what you wish for" is like fairy tale moral 101 how did they make a movie with the exact OPPOSITE message!?
contrarian: someone who states that they hold an opinion because it opposes a more popular one/just stated one whether or not it's true or even if they themselves believe it
Not only that but teaching kids to literally leech off the government instead of growing independence
Disney has literally MADE MULTIPLE “be careful what you wish for” stories.
@@Uta_Chandra.H But doesn't Mags WANT the people to be dependent on him by erasing their memories of their wish so they no longer can do it themself even though he has no intention grant the majority of the wishes? Seems like the message of the film included not being dependent on a single authority figure with unlimited power and influence and zero checks and balance for everything.
@@1993digifanall of that is undermined when they make Asha the wish granter lol
You know Wish fumbled the bag as a 100th anniversary Disney celebration when The Fairly Odd Parents has a better narrative about magic (at least until Channel Chasers)
Don't talk shit about channel chasers
Encanto had a good narrative
Even post-Channel Chasers. School’s Out: The Musical is a way better animated musical about wishes than this is
@@matityaloran9157Either way, it was all before Butch Hartman lost his mind.
And Puss in Boots: the Last Wish
I didn't need a movie to tell me that granting every wish is bad. As a kid, I wished to be a bear. As an adult, I'm strong, hairy, and overweight. So got my wish
you made me laugh! As a kid I thought that hair grew more if you shaved them and I thought that I'd just shave it again and again until i have fur, which means I no longer would have to wear clothes to be warm. Now, i have a condition that makes me too hairy for a woman and i have to do lasers from time to time 😒😒 so another wish granted i guess
@savorysnot8604 Ah, that old wives tale. Though really, your family tells that to convince you to shave that patchy ass "beard" you have that amounts to like 8 hairs but your 14 year old self is so proud of
This is amazing.
at least you are strong?
@@savorysnot8604 another way this could happen is wishing for more lasers!
We were really robbed with this movie. Could have had a villain couple and a star love story 😑
I know! And that star boy looked hot. I'm so sad.
Starboy really could have had the entirety of Tumblr backing this movie
Love story is bad tho. It would hurt the “I don’t need no men” movement. :/
@@koonehkun6404 but it was supposed to be a hundred year anniversary. One love story for old times sake would have been fine.
@@koonehkun6404 not really, just look how much money the Beauty and the Beast remake pulled in, and the fact that it's arguably the most beloved IP of Disney's. the whole "don't need no men" thing are just shallow late-2000s Buzzfeed takes that most people grew out of.
King: This guy wished the shopkeeper to love him, but that would take away her free will, plus she already loves someone else, so I can’t grant that. Since it will never happen, it’s better for me to hold onto the wish so he can forget and move on with his life.
Asha: How dare you hold that wish! You are so evil!
Do you have any idea of how many wishes are dark as pitch? How many warlords, perverts, thieves, and monsters would be unleashed by blanket wish-granting? But no, God forbid we hold off on the instant gratification.
What about world changing wishes? i wish every color was pink, i wish every animal was as big as a house, i wish everyone has infinite money(thus money is useless), i wish we had 5 moons, i wish it was always day(turning the world into a burning or freezing hellscape) and the list goes on
I remember the perfect example in Heathers musical where three people want three VERY different things from the same character, one wants to date one the Heathers, another just wishes them to be nicer, and the third one is "I'd like to kidnap a Heather and photograph her naked in an abandoned warehouse and leave her tied up for the rats!"
@@EthanWillingham Even wishes that aren't intentionaly malicious could absolutely have severe consequences. Much like the original post here, how do you make someone fall in love with you while maintaining their free will? If you want to be the best in a field, you have to stop others from being the best (who maybe didn't just wish for it, and actually put in the work), etc.
Honestly, it's hard for me to think of many wishes that would be significant (i.e. something someone would actually wish for as their ONE lifetime magical wish, not just "man, I'm really craving a steak right now, can you hook me up?") that wouldn't have potential risk. Want to be beautiful? Well, that's like magical plastic surgery - do you still feel like yourself? If other people also wish to be beautiful, will you still feel beautiful when beautiful people become the standard. Want money? Well, once again, other people will too. Now, the economy is screwed.
It could've been a really good nuanced conversation, but it sounds like they just simplified it to make it seem like an easy, black and white problem.
I love how they even address this in the movie with "Well if someone's wish is evil/bad, then we'll stop them before they can do anything!" Or maybe you could just not give the wish back so it never happens in the first place? Wild idea, I know.
The king's system was super reasonable and resposnable. Not every wish should be granted, and not knowing what you wished for that was denied is probably a good thing.
Yea it’s better to forget than to spend you entire life bitter and upset at him
And if you want, you can always try and fulfil your wish by yourself
@@O5-council_12Not really since you forget what your wish was
@@kh6853 I ment, by just not going when your 18
Making people forget their lost wish is villain behavior because it's a mechanism to maintain power without being held accountable for his decisions as arbitrator. Not to mention that fucking with people's heads like that is always evil since it robs them of autonomy over their own minds.
They made an evil spirit force itself upon King Magnifico just in case the audience sides with his logic that not all wishes should be granted in the name of keeping peace.
And then his bitch wife stabbing him in the back afterward. 😂😂😂😂
That is not his logic
@willysilva4831 Yes it is. Did you even watch? The man says it. When a wish is vague, he won't grant it. He will only grant a few per year IF they're safe for Rosas. The reason he curses himself is so his past never happens again.
@Alex-mh5mu
he might know it but because King Magnifico became evil, he forgot about it
he might not know what a character assassination is
he might not fathom that makers saw that the antagonist was logical so they made that botched up patch work of "the reveal that he's evil all along"
@gogakaman1958 We don't care, he's heroic and that's about it
For those wishing that there's a better version of this movie.
There is
It's called Puss in Boots: The Last Wish
Puss in boots was amazing wish is just trash thank goodness i didnt see it
@@yourhighnessshanzayngl that comment confused me for a good 20 seconds.
@@eMercody Commas people. Commas save lives.
Not really the same thing. What this movie could have been was something special in its own right and its not like the last wish.
Not the same thing, the heroic dilf is missing
What Disney has taught me is that anything I wish for is okay and should be granted to me unconditionally.
For my first wish I'd like to plagiarize Disney properties for profit.
That is a good wish, no cap.
And so Winnie The Pooh: Blood and Honey was made.
Disney did not teach you that. They explicitly go against it way too many times.
Not the message of the film. Please just watch it or don't try to explain it. Only in 2024 can the very simple message of "denying free will bad" be misconstrued.
I wish the time limit on copyrights was returned to 20 years, as it originally was, before Disney interfered with it.
Grant that wish, Disney.
I just read the wiki. So basically, because he wouldn’t *immediately* grant HER FAMILY’s wishes, she made it so NO ONE would get their wishes granted? Wow, such caring. /s
Yes. Unironically Asha is the villain in this movie.
Even Simon at the end had to kiss her feet or else. lmao
The Grandfather was 100 years old and waited many decades for his wish to be granted but it never was. I recommend actually watching the movie then judging it.
@icecreamhero2375 What the person said is that she flipped out when he refused to obey to her. Which is exactly what happens.
No
I'm super excited for the sequel. "Asha realizes that she ruined everything."
The sequel is gonna take place in a radioactive waste land because someone wished for some launch codes
Magnifico escapes, has a huge "I fucking told you so!" musical number, and then spends the rest of the movie trying to fix the shitshow.
The current fan theory is that Asha becomes the fairy godmother from Shrek 2.
@@eror404acountnotfound9you did no watch the movie
@hariman7727 that's amazing
Writers talking about Magnifico in interviews; "Magnifico seems to think wishes are just ideas. But they are a part of your heart."
Literally Magnifico, the first time he's talking; "Some people think wishes are just ideas. But they are a part of your heart."
So strange that they'd lie like that. It actually makes Magnifico look worse when he KNOWS the value of wishes and what they are to other people, but still hoards them with the intent of not returning most of them to their owners and then later breaks them to absorb the power within them into himself.
@incrediblefunk7220 he has a right to do whatever he wants with them since he owns them. if they don't want him to own them, they shouldn't give them to him. it's that simple. saying that those citizens don't know what they're doing despite being grown ahh people who give consent is like saying we're all scammed when we make decisions deliberately.
I never noticed this and I just love how manipulative disney is getting. he's not the bad guy so they force it into him by cursing him
@@Alex-mh5mu Honestly think they spent about 5 minutes trying to make Magnifico a "convincing" villain.
There wasn't even a reason for him to turn to the forbidden magic when he did, all he needed to do was be a little patient, but instead Didnep got him acting like an idiot, which is not how he is portrayed earlier in the movie considering he basically built a utopia...
@sparkselm173 exactly and even if you bend over backwards to sell him as a villain he still built all their homes and their entire society so yeah he can't be a villain
The biggest indicator of Disney’s decline is the fact that a move that tried to cancel got nominated for an Oscar over their 100th anniversary movie.
We were all going crazy over Encanto and it won, calm down
@@DORAisD34D No I meant how Nimona got nominated for an Oscar after Disney canceled it, and wish didn’t get nominated.
@@LauraM96829 yeah i know
@@DORAisD34D Clearly, you don't. One hit from years ago doesn't invalidate the fact that Disney is on the decline. That's like saying climate change isn't real cuz there was one major snowstorm in the US this winter.
Disney used to hit it out of the park, EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. The Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin, Mulan, Hunchback, The Lion King, even underrated films like the Rescuers Down Under and Treasure Planet are now considered classics...but that's all over. The company just chases profits over people. They couldn't care less about the wonder that the brand used to instill in children and adults alike.
They're not interested in making good films, only lucrative ones, and it shows. They forgot that if you make a good product, the money will follow. The first few times they were able to bank on nostalgia and name recognition alone, but it's not working anymore. They keep cutting corners and rushing half-baked films out, and the audience is no longer taking the bait.
Walt Disney would have been devastated to see this is what became of his legacy.
@@LauraM96829I love your moon watcher profile picture
THANK YOU for being the first person that points out the weird ass decision of turning a _young love song_ into a villain/protagonist duet that Disney made.
Like, imagine the writers being told that the love song they made is gonna be interpreted by a 17th-year-old and a guy that doubles her age.
More than double cause King Magnifico is older than Asha's grandpa
And I can feel their pain
I really didn’t think it was weird with the context. The way _You’ll Be Back_ from _Hamilton_ wasn’t weird with context.
The song was fine. It didn't feel like a love song the way it was done.
@@liannapfister8255it's meant to be wierd with context, because You'll Be Back is written like a toxic ex song on purpose.
The one in Wish though? No self reflection at all
It was a cute love song, I love the Starboy and Asha idea, however they used this song to represent both Asha and Magnifico's love and longing to protect their people, the wishes are representations of who people really are, as well as Stars, they were both mesmerized. This shows us that the King was genuinely a good person, a caring King. Although I do wish Starboy could have been real, I still listen to the demo and watch storyboards it is so cute!
Magnifico reads to me as a guy who went through something really traumatic and is over correcting by being super strict with the wishes. They could easily give him like a Marlin from Finding Nemoish arc if they wanted, but on a bigger scale. Or if they really wanted him to be unapologetically evil, having him be using the wishes on himself from the beginning, instead of just holding them.
I think that was meant to be the idea, that he only grants the wishes that makes him and his kingdom look better and keeps everyone adoring him and dependent upon him, but it didn't really come through too well.
The thing is that he wasn't super strict with granting wishes. He was perfectly reasonable. He only granted wishes that would be harmless/beneficial to people and avoided granting wishes that could be harmful. Sabino's wish is a great example. It seems innocent enough until you realize that granting it would entail mind controlling an entire generation of people.
Wish is really popular in Japan right now because they cast one of the best contemporary vocalists Fukuyama Masaharu as Magnifico, and everyone hate watches the movie and roots for the king lol
It's not even that they all think he did only good things, but that they sympathize with what drove him over the edge. In Japan, ingratitude, disloyalty, and unthankfulness is frowned upon.
@@incrediblefunk7220as it should be
That’s hilarious lol. I remember when Chicken Little came out, Japan was like the only country it was popular in, while the rest of the world pretty much hated it
“Meanwhile magnificunt senses that girlbossery is afoot” had me DEAD
Is that a fanart of Michelangelo from TMNT in your pfp? I can recognize the green skin and orange mask.
@@redron2350 it’s not fanart it’s an edit of a screenshot from rise of the tmnt lol
Yo
I enjoy the fact that girlbossery is now recognized as being synonymous with villainy.
it happened ever since the “girlboss gaslight gatekeep” meme
“The girl from The Black Cauldron has a better chance of being accepted than you!” DAMN- 😂
Wasn't one of the key points of Aladdin "be careful what you wish for"? Good lord, who wrote this schlock?
Definitely not a talented person.
@@Halfort57or someone with common sense
people say this movie was written by AI, but isn't AI supposed to base itself on GOOD STORIES???
@@pdd5793 algorithms don't understand what makes a good story
they don't even really understand what a story is
they just understand that 2 comes after 1 and before 3, and that this thing we call "words" has to be arranged in a certain order
I recommend looking up the Chinese Room thought experiment
Exactly one thing i loved about Genie talking about the grey area of wishes and how they can ruin your life.
Her grandpas wish was to do something that inspired a generation & during the finale where the heroes have been defeated and lost hope, Asha sings a reprise and rallies everyone… WHY DIDNT THE GRANDPA? That’s such an obvious choice and they fumbled it and I’m still annoyed
Reminds me of how they fumbled the end of the Princess and the Frog fight between Tiana and Facilier. Where he's being dragged to ...wherever... by the spirits, he should have been shouting "But I was almost there!" It would have tied the protagonist and villain to a stronger dynamic by reprising Tiana's lyrics to indicate they were both driven by ambition but went about it differently. It would have mitigated just a tiny bit of the problem that the protagonist and the villain did not interact even once or have any interest in each other even tangentially before the climax.
@@ScionStorm1 I like The Princess and the Frog as-is, but this would have been fantastic.
@@flickcentergaming680 Same.
Also the fact he was voiced by the OG Anthony from Sweeney Todd? Wasted
Because then you'd have to address the fatalistic viewpoint of the need for wishes needing to be granted at all being required in order to achieve one's dreams. And how it conflicts with the notion of free will.
If he can can grant his own wish through his own effort, then what's the point of any of the magic of wishes in the movie at all?
The fact that half way through the film basically forgets the fact the King is doing this because he’s scared about his home and kingdom being overtaken again. They didn’t even try to show that could of been a lie and he was power hungry all along.
Nope just a random heel turn
Its like they had two incomaptible plots and did a terrible job mixing them
Part of me thinks that King Magnifico should have gone down the "malicious compliance" route with Asha
Let her see what granting EVERY wish entails and let her have "What have I done?!" moment,Asha apologizes and she gives her wish about undoing what she did. She understands the King's job better
The problem with that is it's one thing to shit up someone else's place of work by doing as they ask. It's something else to potentially ruin the lives of everyone in that kingdom, if not the world--and there may be a limit on how much can be undone.
@@Recoil1808 Maybe, maybe not
But God essentially did the same thing in "Bruce Almighty". Some things look easy outside looking in but in the end, people like Asha don't learn until they see it for themselves
@@DragonGoddess18 theirs a saying “if you do your job right no one will know you did it” everything works so smoothly and perfectly that they barely notice anything changing or happening. However screwing up will get a lot more eyes on what you’re doing.
You mean that quote from Futurama?
aka The Dragonball reset button?
When "Wonder Woman 1984" understands the dangers of your protagonist's goals more than you do, you dun fricked up.
if anything, WW84 has the opposite problem, assuming everyone will willingly recant their granted wishes.
@@Pandaman64 but they didn't? That was the whole point of the Wonder Woman movie. Diana had to literally speak to everyone in the middle of their self inflicted apocalypse and TELL THEM they need to reject their wishes or the mess will never be fixed. Like, she herself didn't want to do it for half the movie. Wonder Woman 1984 absolutely did it better than Wish, in every possible aspect.
And both movies have Chris Pine in it 😅
And what was the protagonist's goals?
I'm just here thinking the guy who physically stood in for her dead lover technically did it without any consent of his own. Poor guy got used by Diana.
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, he started out as the good guy whose reasoning made tons of sense, then progressively got more stupid as the movie went on in order to force the idea that he was in the wrong the whole time. Meanwhile, she's just batshit insane the whole movie.
Even turning to the book wasn't all that unreasonable. He only did it as a last resort after checking all his other books and turning to his citizens for help (who wouldn't without the promise of wishes). Also, it was in response to sensing a powerful magic with the potential to destroy the entire kingdom. Effectively, he knew someone was walking around with the equivalent of a nuclear weapon. His motivation for using the book was good, too. He wanted to protect his kingdom and its people, and he was willing to risk corruption to do it.
@@mr.histor1996How would you know?
@@Disneyfan82 Because it's in the movie.
@@mr.histor1996 I mean, from what I've heard, the book kinda also got him possessed sorta, so...yeah.
@@starletnight2849 He SACRIFICED his soul and got possessed for the well being of his people, he is an awesome person!
Asha is probably responsible for the human apocalypse in the Disney animated universe. Only wish magic can create sentient toys, animals and cars that we see in the universe.
That’s Pixar though.
Owned by Disney so same thing really @@eeyorehaferbock7870
No
i think Asha granting all wishes was responsible for Hitler's ascension. that's my theory
i heard people say she became the fairy godmother from shrek 2
I like how from the very first trailer everyone agreed the King was actually the good guy weighing the merits of each wish and granting the ones that benefited the kingdom at large.
People are stupid
No, that's just a misconception. Even before he embraces the darker magic, he's still a pretty big prick. Like, he won't even grant harmless wishes like Saba Sabino becoming a musician, and trolls Asha at one point by acting like he will grant her grandfather's wish, only to choose some random lady.
@@CanyonCoyote “Um ackchually 🤓”
@@aceofspadesguy4913 Don't make fun of me
@@CanyonCoyotethe musician one was understandable since it’s something you can actually work for.
You know what? The only thing that can fix this movie is to make Wish 2 that shows how Asha's action really backfired and try to fix it by bringing back Magnifico to help them to solve the wishes problem.
We could even make a trilogy where they defeat Sabino and his army of mind controlled teenagers who got inspired by him to found a fourth Reich.
Then when the battle rages on and Magnifico turns to look at the camera, smiles and whispers "for the narrative" before dying.
And have Queen Amaya be the twist villain. That would explain her dropping Magnifico so easily. And she would want to eat the wishes like in the deleted scenes. Magnifico was just her pet. Amaya was the true villain. The only reason she helped Asha and her friends was because she wanted to overthrow the kingdom by getting rid of Magnifico.
5:30 honestly it was, if you ever watched TTS (Tangled the series) you see they did that with Rapunzel, but they actually treated not listening to other like a flaw that causes consequences, wich makes me even more dissapointed because Disney CAN make this a good flaw (as proven by TTS) but WONT.
Omg yesssss TTS
@@AnshiBezawada i am so glad there are still people on the TTS famdom to this day (also ramdom question whats your favorite Charachter mine is Raps)
@@elima5646 Yeeesh the funny thing is if you ask me who my favorite Disney protagonist is I’ll say Rapunzel, but my favorite tts character is a tie between Eugene and Varian lol
@@AnshiBezawada team awesome!
TTS was hilariously too good for what it should have been. It's also bizarrely existentially horrific, seriously the cute "we all turn into birds" episode plays out like Black Mirror, the boyfriend gets an episode... where he's threatened with sexual violence, the main character that has a "healing/life" song in the movie gets it broken so she gets a power up... "withering/death" song. That she likes. 😮
Disney, you throw dark!
She actually has a lot of flaws, she's just not aware and acts like she's perfect. 1. She's impulsive and makes rash decisions. 2. She doesn't have the ability to see things from someone elses point of view. 3. She's actually incompentent and doesn't do anything o solve her own problems. She just sings snd has a magical being do all of her bidding. 4. She just seems very fake, her quicky personality just feel like a people pleaser trying to be what she thinks everyone else wants her to be. 5. Hero complex. 6. No actual true connections to her family or friends, they could be replaced by animals and the movie would be no different, she just wants to help them and care for them - like pets. 7. No clear motivations. She wants a life better than this? Than what? You wanted to be the kings apprentice, that didn't work out, what's your new goal? Nobody knows! Her family has a nice house and people seem content with their lives. What does she want? Why is she not happy with the life she's got? She's not even 18 so she should still have HER wish right? WHAT IS IT? We never find out.
Also couldn't the whole movie premise fail if people just, idc, wrote their wish down or told someone else about it before going to the king on their 18th birthday?
Finding logic in this "movie" should be a waste of time.
But here's 2 of my biggest problem with this while watched it home.
1. The king said that he only grant wishes that benefits his kingdom.
The traitor friend's wish was to be a loyal knight. Why didn't he granted this wish in the first place?
It sounds like a slave on purpose.
2. It was stated that you will forget your wish once you "give it" to the king. Now if it's something from heart like cure someone's illnes then you won't forget that or you will "Re-Wish" that. If you forgot your wish,it wasn't strong at all. And here lies that everyone only made selfish,random wishes that you would simply forgot by time and would wish something else instantly. The movie gave as hints that they wanted to be a captain of a ship or be able to fly. It's so relatable and i felt the loss these people couldn't achieve. Like to be a captain all she had to do was build a ship with friends...nooo i'm just waiting for someone else to do it for me. The king is so mean.
I couldn't express the hate i got while watching this "movie"
Bonus: if one man wishes that the sky should be green and another woman to be pink then whose wish would be granted? Asha i'm asking you because you grant everyone's wish am i right? If someone wants someone killed then the wish should be granted because it's a wish! Agh...
now that you mention it. its just crazy that disney trys so hard to paint her with these flaws as a hero and she learns nothing to improve herself as a hero. it feels so fake, which was so disappointing that they also had great concept art as well as a better version of the song at all cost. i want to go back to princess love stories. i'm sick and tired of the unrealistic girl boss trope
+ She's manipulative like every time she tricks Dahlia to do her bidding.
+ She's selfish af. She didn't even help making grandpops a cake.
Could not of said it better
The problem with all the flaws you listed is that the film doesn't treat them like flaws at all. Sit learns nothing, and is the exact same person at the beginning as she is at the end.
Genie from Alladin is evil. He didn't grant every wish. Just 3 per customer, No killing, no resurrection, no messing with free will. What a dick.
This movie could have had potential if it was written better.
Let's say that Magnifico is actually talking sense (he was - some wishes could potentially be dangerous if granted) but Asha still has the desire to grant every wish. We keep the plot going up until she prays to whatever god listens and, instead of a marketable star boy, she is granted the power to grant wishes by a shooting star. With the power, she makes peoples' lives better, but Magnifico combats it and we think he's a villain for it.
Asha is granting everything without a thought, until a threat endangers the kingdom. Magnifico is able to track the source of the magic back to her and angrily states "You put us all in danger! One of the wishes you granted has weakened our defences!" (Something like letting the guards go home early so they can spend time with their families).
Magnifico hurries Asha to his castle and shows her what wreckless granting has done and how it's going to take them both to sort it out, teaching Asha a very valuable lesson about taking responsibility and using her brain when it's most needed.
Tl;Dr - Don't make Magnifico a villain, have Asha learn a lesson, and don't let that goat exist
They could include the star character by having a younger Magnifico wish for "an heir whose magic surpasses his own"
After that wish, his wife never bears a child, making him think something went wrong. This is what causes him to be extra cautious about wishes.
In the third act the star could transform into a boy, who is discovered to be his long lost son
@@jc1979af Take it a step further: turn Magnifico into an eventual MENTOR for Asha by having his backstory be an EXACT PARALLEL to Asha's: EG, he granted every wish indiscriminately once out of the same naieve good intentions and ended up unintentionally creating a massive threat to the kingdom that he then had to deal with... which led him to realize he can't just grant every wish, even if he wants to. When Asha confronts him with the same idealism he used to have, he decides to just step aside with a 'You think you can do it better? Alright... give it a try.' because he knows FULL WELL that nothing he says is gonna dissuade this stubborn girl or get her to understand, she's just gonna have to learn the hard way.
When she inevitably creates a kingdom-level threat herself (or makes the kingdom vulnerable she goes to Magnifico to try and figure out what went wrong, or blame him for it, which he then just turns and tells her to her face HE didn't do this, SHE did, this is why it is he doesn't grant every wish, and making people forget their wishes when he doesn't grant them was an apology so they wouldn't be unhappy about that wish going ungranted due to not remembering it.
You can even transform him into a TWIST HERO by initially setting him up like a villain hoarding ungranted wishes for power, but revealing that actually all along he used the power of the ungranted wishes to hold back the threat he made instead, choosing protecting everyone over his own power and his own ideals.
Love how y’all are better writers than Disney 😂
@blooms454 I wish I could say that was a big compliment, but honestly a mole looking for worms to eat can make it over THAT bar.
Asha does not have the desire to Grant every wish
Inagine if the big twist and lesson of the film is that arrogant self assurance and expectations of how you think the world should work can lead to terrible consequences, and the villain was never actually the villain at all.
And by the end, Asha learns that perhaps she should look deeper into things to understand why they are the way they are rather than going in a gut reaction and trying to tear down a system she doesn't understand.
This is exactly why this would have never been made canon with the actual Disney fauna.
It goes against the political narrative and such nuances could be perceived as a CONSERVATIVE POV !!! (Insert lightning here)
4:45 50k wishes were sacrificed for that and now the king is bankrupt
Tbch i was hyper sus of the king not having a heir or two already at his age, he’s a fking KING, he’s supposed to father a few children, if only to ensure the security and safety of his kingdom down the road when he decides to retire someday.
From the looks of it he's immortal given that he is much younger looking than Asha's grandfather
The queen didn't even have any ladies in waiting and had to do everything by herself. Lol. What's up with that?
@@markjosephbacho5652 True- it seems she had no friends then, huh? Her only “friend” would have been her husband- kinda weird..
(I know you’re being sarcastic maybe, but it did bring some things to mind //)
@@carlosalbuquerque22 Yeah but even GODs have children, bc they parents are expected to retire someday and chill.
I don’t think he can age and die
Ahhh yes, the movie where the villain is completely in the right and running a legitamitely happy and peaceful kingdom. And halfway through the writers realized that so they made the villain unhinged and stupid in the space of two minutes while making all the NPCs love the heroine without any justification whatsoever and NEVER making her suffer the consequences of her actions...
...anybody remember when Disney films were GOOD?
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
You just made all that up
@@Granad784 At least half of it is true. Actually, pretty much all of it is true.
Like the OG Puss in Boots or OG Mulan? Yeah. I remember that.
Oh but he's a straight white, I'm guessing he's white, male
@@Granad784 The movie starts with a thoroughly happy and prosperous kingdom with a ruler who tries to fulfill wishes and enrich the lives of his subjects?
Check.
Protagonist finds out not every wish is granted and the "villain" explains he must vet wishes to ensure they won't cause disasters (which a perfectly sane r4sponse).
Check.
When the protagonist runs away and gets a deus ex machina to grant ALL WISHES EVER, the "villain" not only tries to prevent the chaos of this, but suddenly engages in Machiavellian power trips and driving his citizens into mob mentality?
Check.
The protagonist creates a resistance and overthrows the kingdom, convincing people to give up peace, prosperity and huge amounts of freedom because "some of your crazier wishes aren't granted!"
Check.
Despite all this upheaval, there isn't ONE person harmed by her actions. Not one wish that colossally backfires that she must permanently deal with the consequences of, and not ONE person besides the villain that ultimately disagrees with her actions whatsoever.
Check.
Your counterargument is awaited with baited breath, sir or madam.
W-well, uhhh.....
I guess having a first evil Disney princess is kinda cool, right....?
Uh...
Yeah, I got nothing. Asha sucks and King Magnifico deserves a hug.
No he doesn't. Even before he's corrupted by dark magic, he makes it quite clear that if a wish isn't helpful to him and him alone, they're not worthy and that he takes wishes so that he can have all the power.
@@CanyonCoyoteYeah, that was the *supposed* goal, but they didn't execute it very well.
Like.... *at all.*
The deleted scenes of this film showed this 10x better than the final product
It'd be cool... if they'd done it intentionally. If Asha was doing the Disney villain thing of being blatantly aware of how evil what they are doing is and enjoying it. Maleficent shows up everywhere for a reason.
Ah the miserable life in kingdom that is safe and housing doesn't cost you anything. What a nightmare to live in
Except for selling your hearts desire and losing your personality because of it.
@@tomgames8616 a soul for a soul
@@tomgames8616 ehh was it not consensual
That goes to show the entitled people who live in a Hollywood bubble and make these movies 🤮
@@tiamystic most people that work on movies don't make a lot.
It's why there was worker strikes for the actors and writers.
They get mistreated by the studios.
I remember when in Bruce Almighty he got lazy, granted everyone's wishes and Armageddon started immediately, because some people wished for the end of all existence and chaos.
Which has got exactly nothing to do with Disney's Wish.
@@incrediblefunk7220 ...no, tf are you talking about?
@@incrediblefunk7220 it points out the problems with granting every wish. some rosas citizen def wished for the apocalypse
@@incrediblefunk7220 it has a lot to do with it. It explains the logical consequences of the goals of the Protagonist in a much clearer and mainstream way than citing stuff like the Probability Pump.
Never liked the movie because of that.
Godly powers were basically granted to a selfish, irresponsible moron. Oh what? Things went wrong? Wow, what a valuable lesson, God. Oh and it was so fair of you to not give Bruce your higher mental faculties and just have a normal person's head be invaded with all the prayers on the planet.
As a manager for the League of Evil, good on Disney for making a movie where the villain finally wins for once. Really brought some morale to the team here at HQ.
1:25 If the rejected wishes simply included things like, a parent’t wish for their child’s illness to be cured. that would’ve gone SO FAR to actually make the villain a bad guy.
All they had to do was show him hoarding power, by rejecting obviously not-bad wishes.
like. Show him not granting a wish that would’ve brought peace or ended a war. something!
Heck you could even make "reject curing a child's illness" part of a fraud in Asha uncovering that the king actively manipulates people into making big wishes like "cure an entire disease" resulting in: 1. Multiple people being cured at the same time 2.That person pays some kind of price for altering fate 3.The king keeps the "rejected" wishes to extend his life and power and 4. People believe the king is granting 1000 wishes every year when he only fulfills a couple AND other people pay the price
Clearly, he's a villain because he said "no" to a character cast in the role of "hero". That's all it takes these days - not getting your way.
@@magetsalive5162 Sadly this is what happens in real life now too. People have become very allergic to the word "No"
All they had to do was show him hoarding power, by rejecting obviously not-bad wishes. "They did." He ignored Asha's grandfather's wish to be a musician. He thought his music would "start an uprising".
@@icecreamhero2375 So how does that effect the grandfather? Is he sad at all? Does the lack of being able to live his dream haunt him? Does he have a dusty old instrument that sadly sits unused on a shelf?
Or does the movie show him as basically fine?
This movie made the "villain" the most sane guy in the entire story. How are you going to grant every wish to every single person? If someone wants to end with everyone else existence?
That person deserves their wish to be granted?
Good thing he was NEVER BEING ASKED TO GRANT EVERY PERSON'S WISH AT ANY POINT IN THE STORY.
according to Asha yes
I wish Disney hadn't had copyright law altered, and IP became public domain after 20 years as originally intended.
Grant that wish, Disney.
@@incrediblefunk7220 Not every wish, but any wish. Magnifico explained that he wouldn't grant dangerous wishes, which is what Asha was opposed to. And now she's off granting *every* wish, including the ones that might be dangerous.
@@dominickeijzer5844Asha asked the king to return wishes that he had no intention of granting. Her rationale was that the owners of such wishes could try to fulfill them by themselves. In doing that, activities that stem from wishes that are detrimental to the safety of Rosas could be sniffed out and stopped (Rather than "castrating" people's minds). Also, at the end, Asha, by becoming a fairy god mother did not have the power to "grant" wishes (in the way that Magnifico did), she could "assist" people as they worked towards achieving their wishes. I think the message that Disney was trying to pass across was "Let your heart be free to dream. Dare to go after your dreams no matter how unattainable such dreams might seem. Even if you do not achieve them the exactly as you dreamed, you will still gain something from the pursuit". All that being said, I think Disney failed at passing that message across, hence all the backlash. Disney also failed in their portrayal of Magnifico as a villain. His exact motivations were unclear. I wondered why he chose to grant only one wish per month (according to the "Welcome to Rosas" song). Did granting wishes deplete his magical energy? Or did he have something specific he had to gain from accumulating wishes in his study? One could assume that he had become addicted to the "hopeful" aura he got from the wishes which led to his reluctance to let go of wishes. I think just an explicit depiction of him using the wishes as a coping mechanism (for the great loss he alluded to). The "At all costs" song hinted at such an addiction, but apparently, that imagery was not strong enough to portray his villainy (albeit misguided and unintended at the start) to the audience.
The Poster: Be Carful What You Wish For
HOW DO YOU SCREW UP THAT BADLY!?
Magnifico singlehandedly created a utopia where all races and creeds live in peace, even granting their wishes which next to NONE of them would ever achieve on their own....and one whiny, petulant teenager destroyed the kingdom. Cuz you know things are going to completely fall apart and the harmony enjoyed under the King's rule is gone. At least a few of those wishes were desires to do REALLY evil stuff.
Also, Magnifico was technically not acting of his own accord once the book consumed him, so technically Disney is doing all this to a victim. Magnifico was possessed by the book, he has literally been mind graped, and instead of rescuing him, they frame him as just being evil.
You did not see the movie
@@Granad784 You obviously did, but thought that Asha was justified. You are wrong.
@@NokoTheTaco you are a fan of fascism
@TheDoc_K yes i did
@TheDoc_K Yes i did, you simply didn't
And that's how Cult of the Lamb was born 😂😂
🤣😂😹.
and asha is the one who waits
Omg 🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The lamb did NOT wish for something good. Thats what happens when you grant every wish Asha!
Honestly it's incredibly easy to turn Magnifico into a villain. *ahem* King Magnifico only grants wishes that benefit him, such as 'I wish to be mighty warrior!' (becomes a demigod super soldier), 'I want to be a great adventurer of the seas!' (becomes an unbeatable privateer who steals from other nearby nations), or 'I want to be a great hero!' (Magnifico starts a war, and makes the wishers a tactical genius who leads Magnifico's armies to heroic victories and conquests). Literally that's it. Maybe throw in some subtle mind control or indoctrination so those who have their wishes granted don't turn on him, and yeah there'd probably need to be some rewrites around that.
Or alternatively they could follow the actual starting message "be careful what you wish for" and instead of making magnifico evil in the midpoint of the film for no reason, they could make ASHA the villain. It would be kinda fun
You know Wish fumbled the ball when an animated Adam Sandler movie outdid them critically. That has to be the biggest disappointment since The Black Cauldron got outdone by the Care Bears Movie.
EDIT: apparently I didn’t know Leo was on streaming services and not in the box office.
leo was in streaming, how can we get the numbers in the box office
The Black Cauldron was at least good enough for me to check out the book series
Then I really wished they kept some stuff from said book series.
That makes it even more embarrassing
from what I've heard though Leo is actually a really good movie, like solid 7-8/10
I thought you meant the movie Click for a second
Magnifeco basically said out loud that the reason he dosent grant certain wishes is because they could lead to catastrophie and the title picture tells that perfectly with asha saying grant all wishes and magnefico saying that has to be the worst idea in the existance of ideas
That is not his reason and is not what she wanted. He stops wishes he does not like and takes away part of people's souls. She wants that to stop
@@Granad784 if you say so but thats what i thought when asha and magnefico were arguing
@@Granad784they didn't do a very good job conveying their intended message then
@@nathanwilliams585 them you did not listen
@@aiiiia9971 they did if you have half a brain cell
"Every wish will be granted now"
*the small Austrian man* : "hehe"
Oh yeah i totally believe that ahsha is the fairy godmother form Cinderella guess she just decided that she didn't want to be black after a few centuries
It could be something that's passed down through generations?
@@mehnah5033 you do know that fairies are immortal right? I refuse to believe that ahsha is the grandmother of the fairy godmother from Cinderella.
A Cinderella with a Black Fairy Godmother can work. I liked the Whitney Houston Version.
Just don’t claim that the Fairy Godmother from the pre-existing 1950s Disney Cinderella movie is the same person as this character. That’s where things get ridiculous.
She did a Michael Jackson
LMAO
"Magnificunt senses that girlbossery is afoot" That is one HELL of a sentence
2:26 ok listen. We NEVER get to hear Chris Pine’s angelic voice because he very rarely takes singing roles, we FINALLY get one, and it’s THIS. I want justice.
Wish he got to sing as Jack Frost
He sings in Into The Woods
@@assyrianprincess3 AGONYYYY! Far more painful than yourrrrrs! 😒🤓
I can’t believe it took until this video for people to realize the movie was a Zootopia prequel./s
Loved seeing all those Fairly Odd Parents thrown in there.
You know what's funny about this whole situation? DreamWorks just recently happened to also make a movie about wishes, which also have the word "Wish" on its title, and that movie was praised by everyone!
And that one ended with nobody's wish being granted for a moral. Disney can't even get that moral part of a fairytale right.
4:29 For those who can't hear the whispering: "It's always the quiet ones, man, I swear to fuckin' God..."
If people really didnt know that Magnifico may withold their wishes, I would say he is a bit evil for not making the details of the wish contract clear. I think Asha is wrong because she ignored everone's free will and took it upon herself to "save" the kingdom. There were probably many people who would have happily given up their wishes even knowing they will never be granted. The kingdom was safe and its not like people only make one wish their whole lives
Edit: I want to add that I know the movie was trying to show that Magnifico taking a wish was like taking a piece of someone's soul. The issue is that they failed to commit and only made one character suffer any sort of long term consequences (that big tall kid). Magnifico never allowing people to learn magic or take back their wishes isn't good either. I think this sort of plot is too complex for a single movie and they should have gone with something else. If this happened IRL a citizen like Asha would have more likely slowly got some people to join her side and either left the kingdom to make their own settlement or slowly formed a rebellion. Disney basically fast forwarded the plot and made everything feel cheap by ramping Magnifico's evilness. One moment he was sympathetic with a tragic backstory and the next he's suddenly a psycho narcissist.
And what about people that don’t even know their wish?
"if people really didnt know that Magnifico may withold their wishes, I would say he is a bit evil for not making the details of the wish contract clear."
tbf im not sure there is much motivation for this anyway? like he could just say "ill grant peoples wishes provided they are not detrimental to the kingdom". The way its set up makes it come across like the writers were halfway through making the script and then realized hes not actually evil.
The "wishes being part of the soul" stuff also doesn't really work when the majority of the wishes we see were very inconsequential. Am I supposed to believe that people wanting to flap their wings and fly like a bird or wanting a nanny is a vital part of their essence as a human being?
@Scillamar the whole setup didn't make sense. For people with serious wishes, forgetting their life's dream would require a horrifying case of amnesia or something worse. Imagine someone's mom is sick and their wish is for a cure. How would they forget and stop wishing that their mom would be cured?
The beginning tour song addressed this. They all knew.
I sort of figured the only one soldier guy was just kind of ornamental. Like, he’s only there because the kingdom should have a knight, but since the king can grant wishes there hasn’t been any crime, rebellion, taxes, etc up to this point, so why maintain an army/police force.
This also explains why the king keeps appealing to the people to find the traitors, because there’s no group of trained professionals who he can send instead.
I love that this 8 min vid is more cohesive, entertaining, and just generally better quality than the actual movie
The hilarious thing about Disney making a movie about a main character wanting every wish to be granted is that past Disney films who had someone or something granting wishes had rules preventing someone going crazy with wish granting and consequences. So the company coming out with this is laughable. They really failed this one.
true, they also had either the wish granter be evil, power lead into used for evil eventually until stopped or subtile like the fairy god mother granting Cinderella a dress so she could go to the ball (or the mice's dedication to make the dress)
@@yep1486and she only gave Cinderella the tools her stepfamily took away from her, and from then on, Cinderella was left on her own really, Cinderella ended up winning because she played her cards right and used all the help she got and had available to get out of the horrible situation she was at, and had to outsmart her stepfamily to not just be able to leave, but also so they can't attack back because they're spiteful as hecc
Which is a similar approach to Magnifico, except people of Rosas definitely don't struggle nearly as much as Cinderella, to the people of Rosas the magic is just a plus because their lives are already well covered by Magnifico, to Cinderella it was her golden ticket to freedom she had to keep a very strong grasp on so greedy selfish individuals couldn't take it away and condemn her to a miserable life
Yeah, remember Genie from Aladdin? He was basically all powerful, but even he had rules he literally couldn't break because they'd be horrible or have awful consequences.
That is what the movie is
Even Fairly Godparents knew immediately wishes needed rules.
You can really tell there was a writers strike and Disney desperately wanted to get this out before their 100 year anniversary.
I'm confident in the use of A LOT of different IA to write this movie, because to put all this shit together and make it into theater realeses, you must be a very bad wirter, a 5 year old, a guy with no jugement or very very drunk. AI can combine all of that, and Disney isnt stoobid enough to hire dogpoop wirters
@@tilted_stars Not really. AI can make a more interesting but less cohesive story. This is simply a result of too many rewrites in order to satisfy corporate demands for "safe, family friendly and politically correct" products. There's an old classic saying for it "Too many cooks spoil the broth."
Granting all wishes is like a self destruct button cause in the words of the Sniper, “As long as there are two people on earth, some one is going to want some one dead.”
Literally the plot of Forbidden Planet
What we could have got:
-evil villain couple
-Asha is a princess and the adventurous/quizzical type. (not the only princess, she has a younger sister who is quiet, meek, a book worm, has no powers, etc)
-Asha and starboy love story after starboy falls from the sky after Asha uses her magic powers to make a wish
-asha's younger sibling doesn't have any magic powers but Asha does.
-Asha and starboy have a love duet
-asha's parents are the king and queen, and at first they seem nice (we the audience think so) but then we find out they are evil. (Plot twist)
-not as many friends in the story, maybe 2 or 3 sidekicks.
-queen accident by Asha/starboy and king goes crazy evil in 3rd act of story because his love is gone
-talking goat is funny, and no dancing chickens
-star boy saves the kingdom against the king with his magic in 3rd act, not Asha (Asha is the damsel in distress, at least for that finale part)
-starboy decides to stay in the kingdom and marry Asha and not go back to the stars, Asha gives the throne to her younger sibling and everyone lives happily ever after. The king is thrown in jail (if they want to make a second movie).
-the movie ends with Asha becoming the very first fairy godmother and gets the very first magic wand (aka, asha's town is the village/kingdom were Cinderella's fairy godmother is from, this is hinted at in the movie, which ties together Disney lore but also makes the story interesting)
For references sake, They could have still trapped magnifico in the mirror and had the queen escape with it, making her the evil queen from Snow White.
HOLD ON where did the sibling thing come from???? That sounds so interesting! Where can i find more information on that?
Wait they straight up kill Amaya? Dang, this movie could've actually been interesting.
Nice ideas. I'd watch something like this
Asha being royalty would also allow the kingdom to LOOK utopian even jf it isn't really. Instead we have a utopian kingdom doing incredibly well thanks to responsible wish magic.
With video game adaptations, why didn't Disney do an Epic Mickey movie?
Oh please YES!
disney left the gaming buiz after infinity and were stupid to not do that
Because Disney hasn’t known how to make full length Mickey Mouse movies for two whole decades? And I’m pretty sure their heads would explode if you asked a Disney producer what to do with Oswald.
@kayleejazz1669 Definitely can see Kingdom Hearts working as a movie; if they based the story off the manga/light novel adaptations.
They just invested 1.5 billion into Epic Games. @@lastmonarchistproduction_253
“Heavenly Father give me strength for I have been mildly inconvenienced.” Is the best part.
5:50 WHAT??? HECK THATS A MORE EVIL ENDING THAN ANY OTHER DISNEY'S VILLAIN HAS GOTTEN EVER, heck even the hero on those movies is regretful about the bad guy dying, she is a sociopath at this point
And he's not even dead. Just stuck immobile in eternal darkness and loneliness
@@whothefrickareyou8106
Let's not forget he's still possessed by that demonic evil book thing that they never saved him from. They never even noticed he was possessed somehow?? Like who doesn't notice there is clearly something wrong with the king who created a utopia when all of a sudden his magic turned green and is attempting to drain hope from his people?!??
@@whothefrickareyou8106THATS WORSE!!!!!
He was barely a bad guy at this point, like girl if I saw this movie suddenly I'd think she is more of the bad person and the King wa sjust trying to keep things organised
"For I have been moderately inconvenienced!"
Gold.
So the king studies wishing magic for years and along the way learns of its true potential and thus consequences when used wrong, but Asha wishes on a star ONCE and immediately gets his powers? WOW…
I will always be upset about star boy. This is my villain arc.
It’s still a better villain arc than magnifico’s
"Manifico senses that girlbossery is afoot."
I love this, and I shall be using it.
You also can't ignore the fact the Star granted Asha's wish instantly. So I guess no one else ever asked to get a wish granted. It wasn't like Asha's was insanely selfless or anything either. All she really cared about was her Grandfathers wish and no one else's.
Asha being the initiator of the conflict is what bothers me. It clashes with the plot up until then and highlights how little vision she has. Her motivation or you could say inspiration to apply as an apprentice is to help have her grandfather's wish granted, who instead of working towards his dream has been waiting a century for someone to just give it to him and even then he still succeeded with his granddaughter.
Without Asha's vexing Magnifico wouldn't have gone down the road of villainy, had she completed her apprenticeship more wishes would have been granted.
Disney has plenty of stories where someone takes something and sets events in motion but generally it's either from an established villain or they see the error of their way and return it to an otherwise benevolent ruler/entity/etc. having grown in the process.
A better story would have MAgnifico exploiting the productivity of his kingdom who's inhabitants toil ceaselessly in the hopes of winning the jackpot and having their wish granted.
Asha's motivation could have been a thoughtless bureaucrat destroying her parents dream (insert whatever) and her quest to right this wrong leads to a revolution.
Freed of Magnifico the inhabitants of the kingdom may not get their wishes granted but now they're free to pursue them on their own and make it happen by their own ability.
Really anything is better than the downfall of the old hero being a result of the actions of the "new" hero.
I love how everyone agrees King Magnifico was not only right but he was the good guy
People are stupid
That’s not universally agreed upon at all. You’re just stuck in an echo chamber.
@@thechunkmaster8794it seems thats a majoritys view
@@GalinaEv Even if that's true, majorities do not represent everyone.
@@thechunkmaster8794 true true
Magnifico didnt even go for awful magic when things got weird either. He genuinely felt that his kingdom was threatened. Asha is literally the villian.
First, the doodles aren’t bad, they’re actually really charming. False advertising.
Second, “caring too much” could have been a decent flaw. Think about it. Any trait can be a flaw if pushed.
“I care too much, so I enable the destructive behavior of my friends so they don’t have to change.”
“I care too much, so I suppress my sense of self worth when people walk all over me.”
“I care too much, so I force people to bend to my way of thinking because I only have their best interests at heart.”
Even the very source of caring too much can be born from selfishness, vanity, self righteous belief, etc. Asha caring too much could have been an interesting flaw for a disney protagonist, and could certainly teach a lesson about thinking before acting or getting more than your own opinion for decisions.
In an alternate plot line, perhaps asha’s “caring too much” leads to her giving endless wishes to everyone. This eventually leads to, I don’t know, tangible and engaging conflict. Her careless actions results in damages and injury. A woman gets her wish to fly granted, and she uses it to steal from people easily (or she crashes into a window). She makes a kid’s home out of gingerbread, so rats and bugs eat it as it rots in front of him and his family. Two warring neighbors keep wishing for their pumpkin to be the biggest for a fair and eventually, one pumpkin the size of a wagon rolls down and smashes into something.
I don’t mean to act like these ideas are masterpieces of creativity, or that asha specifically •had• to have “caring too much as a flaw. My point is that her goal seems like a good setup for a “careful what you wish for” movie, and then it fumbles around with no identity and falls flat on its face. It’s so poorly told, that people •genuinely believe• magnifico, the supposed villain, is in the right (lets his people live in his kingdom rent free, tells them about the wish rule beforehand, etc). Instant gratification for wish giving is hardly rejected in the narrative besides the implication of a Wendy and peter pan lookalike pair building a plane to make it come true.
Im sorry this comment is long, but it’s frustrating that the 100nth anniversary movie is so generic, taking the easy way out as asha seems to think should be done, and rejecting the true hard work done by the great predecessors to make disney a wish come true. I can’t look at this film and think about what we could have gotten.
Third, we were robbed on starboy but artist online are to the rescue!Support all the artists who make better wish content than the people behind the official wish did. They deserve your attention and praise. You deserve to see a good, competent rendition of this film, even if only in small animatics or fanart.
So this movie is written assuming no one would ever wish for anything bad ever.
How many times has a hormonal teenager wished "I wish everyone would just die!"
I wish for untold riches.
Okay. Now you are the only people on the planet. You have all the planet to yourself. Now what?
"I wish for wishes to disappear."
Like in "Zathura" (2005), the astronaut who is resuced by the two brothers was a player with his younger brother, but they got mad at each other to the point the older brother wished his younger brother had never been born. When it was granted he realised what he had done but couldn't rectify it as it wasn't his turn thus he was trapped in the game world as a consequence. (I avoided anything spoilerly in case nobody has seen a nearly 20 year old movie)
the funniest part of the movie for me was when in his song they tried to make us think that granting 14 wishes in a year is a low amount of wishes to grant when 1. he doesn't have to grant any wishes and 2. there is supposedly one wish ceremony per month and from what we've seen so far usually only one person gets their wish granted at a wish ceremony, meaning that he doubled up on wishes twice which actually does make 14 wishes higher than the average
Your recap was SO much better than the movie, and I haven’t even bothered to see it
How do you know if it’s truly better than the movie for you if you haven’t actually watched the movie?
Basically, Asha is the Disney version of Burnham from ST: Discovery, driven by a hero complex, and feels morally justified and the narrative tries to bend over backward to MAKE them right despite an examination of the situations and facts indicated...yeah not as much as they want us to believe.
Wow you’re totally right. It’s part of what makes STD so unlikeable alongside everything else wrong with it
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Disney Villain Crimes:
Scar-Stole the throne from Mufasa, attempted to kill Simba
Gaston-Attempts to force Belle to marry him+kills Beast (temporarily)
Shan Yu-Destroyed a village, attempted to overthrow the Emperor
Mother Gothel-Kidnaps Rapunzel as a baby and uses her powers to stay young
Magnifico-Doesn’t grant everyone’s wish
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They completely blew a chance to make a subversive, thoughtful movie. Of all the twist disney villains, they could have made the HERO the twist villain by showing us exactly how horrible granting every wish automatically would mean. I know its a kid's movie but seriously that could have actually been awesome.
Didn't see the movie, but judging how it was received I'm just gonna assume this is how it actually went.
It’s exaggerated but more or less
It's still so funny that they had a whole movie concept planned, had time to change it yet still missed that their villain had to actually be evil. Asha was so fundamentally in the wrong with everything that it's amazing no one saw she was the real villain all the time
You did not see the movie
@@Granad784 Stop trying to be a contrarian when the movie you defend is so garbage that people believe the “Villain” and “Hero” should’ve swapped places. The “Villain” is fundamentally correct and the “Hero” is a petulant teenager.
@@NokoTheTaco stop being a sheep that believes a fascist is the good guy and liberty is a villain
@@Granad784 how is he a fascist
@@Granad784 2 months later…
3:22 "Come on, guys. It's for the greater good!"
*(Loads bolter with malicious intent)*
2:03 She's not snarky enough to be a girlboss.
She put extra points into self righteousness and hypocrisy instead.
Even worse, the Star just does stuff without any regard to wishes. It made a whole ton of livestock randomly sapient. Might cause some issues for the farmers.
The Queen is very strange in the film, she immediately turns on her longtime husband and is fine with him being trapped in a mirror. Guess they didn't marry for love.
She married for all his money 😱😭😈😉
6:43 man zootopia 2 is weird as hell
Why does the slowed theme kind of slap😮
Literally everyone: Be careful what you wish for
Disney: No
Her: Grant Everyone's Wish!
King: Okay, Next!
Me: I wish no one's wishes came true.
King: Whelp I gotta do it, my hands are tied.
Her: No you can't grant his wish!
King: Sorry, you said all wishes have to be granted, no exceptions.
That is not what she wanted
@@Granad784 Then what did she want? A more lenient approach to giving out wishes? So why did she grant everyone’s wishes if that wasn’t what she wanted?