My rebuttal to this video: As someone who has built several boards for himself, I will say that he makes a good point that if you have built your board, you will know how to fix it if something breaks. BUT... Do you ever tell someone who is in the market to buy a motorcycle the same thing? If that person is mechanically inclined, you might. But the reality is that most people do not have the mechanical capability to build a safe, functional, legal motorcycle without making significant investments to get the tools and knowledge needed. And that probably isn't what they intended when they started thinking about getting a motorcycle. They probably just want to ride it. Just like with everything else in our modern lives, we depend on other people who specialize in certain things to be the experts because there just isn't enough time to enjoy new things if it means we need to invest the time to become specialists ourselves. You don't need to learn to code to use a computer. If you did, there would be very few people using them. Same thing goes for e-boards, and that's a big part of the reason why until very recently (as more e-board companies come on to the scene), very few people have been using them. As a human, I feel that anybody with working hands has the physical capability to build an e-board. But unless they possess the mental motivation to learn the ins and outs of the process, it won't happen, and they will remain enthralled by people who have done it. People tell me all the time that I'm "smart" because of the things I have built. I tell them "I'm not smart. I just love doing it, so I have the motivation to learn everything there is to know about it."
Yes very good points. There are definitely people who are willing to learn and people who aren’t. Really trying to bring to light a few points in case someone is on the fence about it.
The counter-counter-argument is that the esk8 ecosystem just isn't as mature or robust as for motorcycles. If you live in/near practically any city, suburb, and even some smaller towns - you'll be able to find a reputable mechanic to service your motorcycle. The same is far from true for esk8, even though the overall complexity is way lower in general.
@@GeekProdigyGuy that's a really good point, i love both bikes and esk8 (i have shadow 750 ACE 1999 and a DIY longboard ) i can TOTALLY see this, with my bike i learned little by little listening to my mechanics advices, watching vids and reading at my own phase, if i needed something that i felt "too complicated" for me i just drive it to the mechanic, on the other hand with my Longboard i HAD to learn and watch hundreds of videos per day and read like i was preaparing for a test (and i know about that, i passed trough medicine school xd) just to build it, because when i tried to hire someone to just put all the pieces that i was buying together and not even the people from the E-scooters stores wanted to help me, so i HAD to learn, but just like he said in the vid, i wasnt buyn a branded esk8 because of the price-bennefit
@@josue1996jc damn im loving this debate lol good points all around - i just got a prebuilt (somewhat upgradeable tynee stinger) - immediately there are things I knew I wouldnt like about it that I confirmed(board height) and am already planning upgrades. I feel like I got the best of both worlds because I found a prebuilt that lets me change trucks and deck later within some limitations (not too much flex)... to be fair I found someone on reddit who did these upgrades first and I am gonna copy them so I can worry less about compatibility >.>
For real I saw someone going 55+ on one of these lmao dudes crazy no one needs to go that fast on a skateboard, just terrifying 😂😂 that being said I want one it looked like funnn 😂🤘
Yeah there’s no reason to tell beginners with zero electronics or RC experience to go DIY for their first esk8. DIY doesn’t actually start being cheaper than prebuilts until you’re doing higher end builds. A backfire zealot (which I own, I have 850 miles on it and it’s still going strong) with 12ish mile range, 29mph top speed, and reliable build quality will cost you about $650. A DIY built out of $650 worth of parts might have SLIGHTLY better specs, but sure as hell won’t have anywhere near the polish that the Zealot does, unless you really know what you’re doing. I didn’t build my DIY until I’d been esk8ing for over a year and a half, and even though I have electronics experience and I’m an information technology major, I still ran into issues. Telling a beginner to go DIY is a perfect way to have someone accidentally configure their ESC improperly and blow up their battery. There’s no shame in starting out with a prebuilt board.
About 2 years late but definitely grab a jking Jupiter 01 AT, the absolute best board for the price range. I’m going to college at NAU and there’s a ton of hills and it snows and stuff here, I can ride in any condition and it’s still comfortable
Go to esk8 forums. So much information. I’ve had a great time building boards. I’m on my 4th one now and they get better every time. Just take your time and do your research
@@enjoyesk8978 using stormcore 60d as my esc, torqueboard direct drives 90kv as my motors, and evo falcon as my deck, with an mboards 12s4p battery on the way
@@joshinwithu dude that’s a sweet set up! I’m ordering a stormcore and spintend esc soon. I have a couple focbox’s and a couple Flipsky right now. I’m excited to try the stormcore next. The falcon deck is on the top of my list. They’re sold out everywhere it seems. Enjoy your esk8ing bro! Ride or die!
Most prebuild board stores have a section for replacement parts, if they dont, every part has a model number that can easily be googleable and ordered in, im not discounting your points at all, i just wanted to put this out there.
I saw this video and decided that building my own board could be fun. And then I saw the cost, it's more then buying a midrange board. I don't understand are these the parts you find in high end boards?
I benefited a lot from your videos. I'm sorry, my budget was totally not in the realm for mboards, but I learned a lot about how to put everything together and was able to customize a cheap $100 board to exactly how I need. Couldn't have done it without these videos, to be honest. So I wouldn't stress about your company going away because your UA-cam videos will inspire/teach hundreds more in the future. When I have more money to invest, I know where I'll put it into in the future. Thanks for the vids!!
Keesh Tech could you send me where you got some of the parts from because I’m trying to make one on a budget and I have some parts but I’m still looking for some cheap materials. If you could that we be amazing! Thanks
Put together a list of all parts and components for your build. Every now and then when you have some extra cash, buy a part. Check off each part on the list and you’ll get there sooner than later
Disagree, you can't build budget board better than pre-builds. They are better because they buy in bulk. If you build, you paying more. I just think this video is the type: Don't give them the money, give it to me.
I think you may have clicked away too soon. As I said in the video, I would feel the same way wether or not parts are purchased from us. I always urge people to shop around and check prices everywhere. This was my opinion back before our company existed as well. In my experience, having built many boards purchasing parts at a full retail price, it is a much better value.
You'll also need to remember that even if you find a prebuilt board for less money right from the beginning, upgrading or repairing parts can be difficult. Many times this leads to a new purchase of a prebuilt all together rather than a couple upgrades here or there which would push the price up over time. Totally two different ways of thinking about it, neither are wrong.
I agree to an extent. As an Esk8ter I started off pre built boards from China which was ok as a beginner but now I'm totally prefer a DIY board open source VESC.
Mike, I built my 1st esk8 from your products and really happy with it. I agree with everything you said. The only thing I would add is if you're not sure if esk8 is something you really want to expand on, then spending a bit on a prebuilt is fine. But if you know you want to tweak the board and upgrade in the future, best to jump right into DIY in the beginning.
Exactly! Upgrading and tweaking is so important! Should have talked about tweaking settings, definitely something that gets overlooked (I even overlooked it here haha).
I bought a Meepo V3($430 30mph top speed and 10 mile range but I've gotten it to 12 on single charge), and after over 500miles(800km), I've decided that i wanted another Meepo, so i just ordered a new V3 with an extended range battery(claims 20 mile). But after seeing your video i feel like i should've just build my own! Wish i saw your channel sooner, i fear i may have been lucky with not having any trouble with a Chinese board after so long
I bought a very used skatebolt tornado ii for 80 bucks. I plan on changing the deck and maybe the battery. Its my first eboard so my plan is to learn some things before dumping a ton of money into this hobby. Its good enough for right now.
One factor you need to consider for beginners is sometimes people make mistakes. If you make a mistake, like soldering something backwards, or buying something wrong, the cost can really add up. But I definitely agree that building is the best option if you know what you're doing.
Many times yes, modification of existing boards can be a great way to save some money as well. Some brands are definitely more easily modifiable than others but still a great point!
Just bought two 6355 motors, mounts, kegel pulleys, dual belt VESCs from you. Making a 10s3p battery myself out of Samsung 30Qs. I will hopefully be putting together a build video at some point in the future. I'll be comparing it to my brother's evolve carbon GT.
I've been looking for DIY kits for the last fews weeks. I had looked at M boards during the process, but I was going to order from an option over seas. After watching this video this morning, I realized I agree with a lot of things said and it made me think differently about my purchase. I just placed order with M boards about half an hour ago. I would rather pay a little more to support a locally owned company. Thank you for what you are doing.
What i realized after building an electric skateboard few years ago, is that i don't need an e-board. And i've been riding unpowered boards ever since, no range anxiety, lightweight, kicktails + ollies, cheap, almost no maintenance, no charging, less injuries since you don't go that fast. But new components are looking so good, i'm starting to think about building a tiny electric cruiser next season.
I'm 5 boards in and I have broken all of them. Not a single one even got close to a dollar per mile. 3 year's of commuting to work every day it doesn't rain, priceless!
Electrical and software engineer here: I’m all for making things from scratch; I diy TONS of things but anything dealing with large lipos and power systems are items I would recommend having someone else do. While there are certainly good kits and tutorials available, unless you are being scrupulous in which controllers and batteries you buy, you risk getting something that is dangerously poor designed. This isn’t the place for sticking to a budget. Along the same lines, I would also recommend against most “Chinese” boards for a lot of the reasons you mention. You aren’t likely to find a service center or quality replacement parts for your board. There is also little to no accountability for the brands; if a Chinese brand gets a bad reputation, they just change the name, add a new logo, and sell it under another company.
Would you guys ever make a 43.2v 12s1p battery with the Anderson connector that would fit into an Inboard? Would be so sick since they are out of business
We are currently looking into offering a significant offering of replacement parts for Prebuilt boards as many brands don't have replacement parts available at the moment.
If anyone has one they'd be willing to send to us, I'd be happy get it opened up and get a production plan started :) Message me on instagram @mboardsco
I prefer the level of customization to anything that I build. If a battery goes bad which enviably it will, I'd like the ability to switch out that myself with being at the mercy of someone else. With that being said, this dude is in the business of selling parts. If you're not interested, head over elsewhere for a pre-built.
Nice video but it's kinda hard to compete with chinese brands who are buying parts wholesale. For your time and cost of parts you can't beat a $4-5 hundred board. I'm riding a Sapphire pro and wouldn't have been able to replicate this easily. The only real benefit to building your own board is , like you said , you can fix and service your board with ease because you know your board well. Just my opinion.
Good to know one can DIY e-boards. Alright, I'm 6"3 231lb, live in a hilly are, I will be commuting & fun rides, I cherish ranger over speed but a little umff won't hurt. I want a design & feel like that of Exway Flex board. What complete list of Mboard parts do I need to get a board running upon delivery, shipped here to Poland, simple parts and prices on the side list please, let's see if this is a realistic claim.
When I first wanted to get into electric skateboarding, I wanted to build one but after calculating everything it would cost the same as an Evolve GT if not more (back in 2015) and if buying off the shelf, you also get support if something breaks and they would also be liable if anything were to happen (due to their components). I have owned both Evolve and Boosted and both customer support are great. I can't imagine trying to get a hold of a component supplier from Banggood or some sort if I had built a board that lasted me 2-3 years.sd
I think you're correct talking from a US prospective. In Europe things, I've noticed, are more expensive, starting from the batteries. On top of that overhere there's not that great availability or parts (trucks, WHEELS, etc) as in US. I agree though that a DIY its better cos we can learn to fix, build and replace batteries and so forth...so yeah...once a person get 700 euro or so can make a decent eskate. As for prebuilt eskates I wonder how much I can trust about the age of the batteries used...or where do they come from (disintegrated Tesla's car and such as?) are these companies always using brand new battery cells? Whilst with a DIY you buy batteries, you test one by one and eventually you send them back if aren't good (or at least buy from a reliable battery store). Time consuming but the final result will be more lasting.
Another vote from me for an Inboard M1 battery. There's a lot of people looking for them. Mine are still running, but I don't want to change a board I bought a year ago and have hardly ridden.
I built my own and its an absolute weapon! I love how you can customize every part to suit your own taste. One of the best features of mine is that it runs on 6 makita batteries. Goes for ages and I can carry spares in a backpack. BUT i won't lie, its insanely dangerous! Always wear protective gear, a helmet and gloves is the bare minimum for me
You took the words strait outa my mouth! I couldn’t of said it better myself bro!! DIY is the right way to go!!! I’ve been build about almost2 yrs now and my board is pro and a serious contender!!
@@ManifoldSky being the fastest, most economical board on the road! I’m the great white shark in a sea of guppies! In the greater Vancouver Canada area! No company builds a board as fast and vicious as my DEMONA!!
(I'm 16)About 1.5 years ago I bought a 350 dollar board I put like 1000 miles on it and I always thought it wasn't enough and I really didn't think about building one myself. I think that's amazing so thank you for the information I will definitely check out your channel.
I'll check out your site. I'm new to electric and bought a couple of Wowgo boards off ebay just to learn about the feel of the boards and also the mechanics. I am wondering if I might remove the Wowgo rear hub motors (from Wowgo 3) and rear truck and substitute in parts from M Boards. Not sure about that.
To be fair, I actually brought a prebuilt board and just changed everything else. For example: The board I brought uses 70kv ESC/motor, so I just buy an esc with that same kv, change the settings a bit and we good. The battery don't make much of a different since its mainly to supply power to the esc. My board came with a 10s5p battery so I'm not worried about an upgrade on that anytime soon.
I am a big advocate of diy projects.. currently in the middle of building my first diy esk8, which 95% of the items are mboard products. Mike’s videos got me into this and I am super excited to get riding! Thanks Mike!
there are upgradeable boards you say there not but check the exway wave or flex you can replace the battery the motors from hub to belt you can replace the deck and you can replace the wheels.
There definitely are boards that are more serviceable than others. My main point is that if Exway went out of business, there is still quite a bit of proprietary design going on to make repairs difficult if Exway ever disappears.
@@MBoardsco yeh but are you also going to make your own phone if apple or samsung went out off business its unusable you can say that argument for everything
Had a look at your webpage but no matter how I put parts together it still becomes much more expensive than competitive complete OEM boards. Also the direct drives will get hurt very easily.
In order to do something like diy you should have already good experience, because in all another cases you will pay more extra for your mistakes - was proved on own experience
Yeah but you got to take in consideration customer service, warranty in the fact that companies take their money and put a good portion in the R&D to further advance the industry
Depends on the board! Some boards are much easier to work on than others. But some boards use proprietary parts that must be purchased from the original manufacturer.
@@MBoardsco Then the whole video "depends" on what you go for. You speak of so much nonsense and when you mention about swapping motors on a DIY board being easy vs PreBuilt being harder also depends no? It's the same concept. Goddamn people run out of originality and ideas for content on here.
Of course it depends on the exact board you’ve got. But there are proprietary parts on nearly every production board that makes repairs and upgrades very difficult. Pretty straight forward concept.
@@MBoardsco Pretty straight forward indeed as to having your PC in need of a new PSU you dont have to contact the PreBuilt company to repair it your self but instead install a new one. What's so different about a prebuild board? The Eboard community is literally about costumizing your boards from little to almost everything, getting a company based board doesnt exclude you from these possibilities, they only provide a solid support foundation, a helpful community and a quality board for your money. Im unaware of that repairs and upgrades you mean but trucks and belts are literally on site for little to no price if I want to do a repair, and from my experience with Evolve and their app they literally tell you that you and your posaibilities are your own boundries, not them or the build. It's like I tell you next time you want to cook pasta go build an over your self, or go build your own house because then it will be easier to repair than having other guys hired to do it for you... and then the audacity you must have to like your own comments on an argument...
Its the samething with the drone hobby. Build your own drone with better parts instead of going DJI. I agree 100% with your point of view. You learn and its fun !
Today I got pulled over on my electric skateboard in the Netherlands like I’m 12 do you really not have anything else to do I had to get out of the house to stop playing video games so I went on my board and got pulled over the man was so aggressive i just said I didn’t know so got of with a warning but com on
idk I bought a backfire zealot s for $800 and i looked up parts to build a comparable board and there was no way I could build one that had similar specs. look at beast board viper. its $550 and has a battery that would cost $400 to build. the $150 left over is not gonna buy the rest of the parts needed. it just wont. the motors should be replaceable on the backfire board. they use hobbywing motors, esc, etc. I dont see how it couldnt be fixed.
Even tho this is your opinions... Everything you said is literally facts. Lol About the diy stuff... There is one thing you and your suppliers needs to improve on... we need data sheets!!! As a drone pilot, We have data sheets on everything(motor, esc, flight controller and video transmitter). I need to know the amp consumption on each motor, so I could match or future proof my esc. I want to makes sure my esc supply the right amperage to the motor. If not, I could fried the esc because the motor is drawing to much amp. Don't forget the skateboard has to carry us as well. Currently, I cant find parts because your store or other websites doesn't have this information. This is important because I'm trying to get into this hobby.
you mentioned that the diy brands all sort of use a standard. I love you kits and DIY builder but I want double kingpin trucks which i found on Flipsky's website. Would your motor fit on their motor mount?
I don't understand how you can say your just beat basically if you buy a prebuilt board and wanna upgrade battery or change motor. Ive done this with no problems. Basically turned a evolve into a diy, built my own battery, changed ESC ect.
i do i agree with your statements !! diy is not much cheaper , as you kinda have to have your own spot welder , nickel stips , be careful with the bms and those things ! but you can just make your battery suit your needs , if you need acceleration , go 12s ! its kinda more customizable ! but in the end , you get to pay kinda more in the diy world ! but yet again , i believe its worth it !
If you decide to build your own battery pack you do get into a whole new level of DIY. Most DIYers don't build their own battery packs and save money on specialized tools. Many builds won't need much more than a screw driver. But YES definitely worth the freedom of upgrading and customizing.
@@MBoardsco yep, I absolutely agree! But I kinda don't trust a company to ship me a sealed pack! If I am going to push the limits of my board I want to know even the smallest detail! Also , I have a question ! I am thinking of buying a 18650 spot welder ! The one that's portable not the big one ! It's because it's my first build and I don't want to spend all that money on the big one ! Is it any good??
That's a great point! If you build your battery then you know 100% what cells are inside. I'd be happy to take a look for you, send us a message on instagram with a link and I'll check it out :)
Hi there, this is totally unrelated to your video but can you please give us the option to choose the currencies on your website? I would totally appreciate it
Do you use salvaged Tesla batteries for DIY battery packs, if not, have you ever consider to build your own pack? I would love to build a battery pack from Tesla model 3, 2170 cells.
I wanna buy a board that’s around 300-400 CAD that goes at least 15mph speed, I’m just worried about duties and taxes. Cause that will make it so expensive. Anyone recommend what board I should buy?
I would take a look at as many DIY Electric Skateboard shops as you can. Try to price check or even ask the vendor to price match if the battery is near identical. Taking a look at a preowned listing somewhere can be useful but be cautious when doing that. Building your own pack can be cheaper but depending on what equipment you already have it may not be cheaper. I can't recommend using battery packs with sub-premium cells inside due to safety concerns but you may be able to get buy with one if you happen to find one for the right price as a temporary battery, still can't officially recommend it though.
I agree for the most part but I would say that it also depends where your from. If you live somewhere which is very dry I would say you may as well build it but if you live in the UK like me where sometimes I am forced to ride in the rain. A pre built board is probably the way to go as it will probably have water resistant features. Also pre built boards can also have swappable batteries, my one does although I rarely have to use it. And terms of power the board can still max out at about 30 (not that i am brave enough too go that speed most of the time). So unless anyone knows any good water resistant DIY solutions I think thats a good enough reason to buy pre built over custom
What about exway electric skateboard would that be a good one to buy cuz that seems like bang for your buck and they have extra parts that you could buy
There are a lot of good option out there. Our main concern is what do you do if they discontinue a specific board and stop selling the replacement parts? Or what if Exway goes out of business and stops producing parts all together? That’s why we are so on board with DIY. No matter what happens, no matter who is in business or isn’t, there will always be parts available from somewhere to make repairs and upgrades.
I'ved built four diy boards and there's no way you can build a board thets reliable and long range with good parts for $400 or even $500. You wanna buy good parts that won't break going down the street. I get what your saying though.
@@MBoardsco If you put together a battery pack using LG 18650 batteries, you often pay 100 to 200 dollars more. Factor that in and a prebuilt is cheaper with the same battery pack. Sometimes it's better to buy a prebuilt and customise it. A lot of companies will sell you a base package that you can then customise later on. You need to understand as a business owner, you can't be saying do this because I think it's better. You need to look at the bigger picture and use facts. DIY is the hobbyist way of doing something. Obviously in some ways it's better but most of the time, (coming from an eboard DIY and prebuilt owner), it's an expensive and pointless way to enjoy something. You need to encourage and not start poking at people who buy prebuilt.
Absolutely not poking at anyone who decides to go with Prebuilt, there are plenty of reasons to buy prebuilt but those reasons aren't worth it to us in our eyes. Customizability and sense of accomplishment after a build is complete doesn't exist with prebuilt boards. Again just sharing our opinion incase someone is looking for some extra reasoning.
I agree with you and this goes for a lot of other things such as building PCs but as you mentioned, it's not for everyone. Most people just want to buy something and use it right away. Good video tho but not for most people.
Hi all Yeh i really liked the idea of a diy board but after a few hours of research all i came up with was a headache, trying to weigh up the pros an cons i came to the conclusion that it just wasn't good value, cheaper yes but not cheap enough, diy would've been more fun though but ... i went with the evolve gtr bamboo an has warranty, if your worried about the budget then save fot it, sometimes doing things on the cheap can come back to bite ya ass. Cheers from oz
I agree with you, but as easy as it may seem for you to build an eskateboard, there’s at least thousands+ people out there that would fail miserably at it. Like me, and I’ve built an electric bicycle. Lol take my 1st attempt at it, I bought a cheap esc that came with no manual, and after troubleshooting the thing I still couldn’t figure it out and had to sell it and some other unnecessary parts that I bought on eBay. Fortunately I got some of my money back and learned from my mistakes I know I want a better esc like a dual vesc and that’s pretty much all I need to finish the project but Still haven’t bought it. I’ll get around to it and finish the project one day! Lol
They don't make you send your board in.. they send you parts to fix yourself... I just got free battery from Meepo and Backfire.. my batteries were fine I just wanted replacement while it was still under warranty
Yes that is how many companies operate now. Back when this video came out, boosted was the leader in this space and they had everyone send their boards in. Evolve operates this way as well.
I found your channel after I start researching about how to build my own electric skateboard which is very informative on different part that I have almost no knowledge about, although I don't really agree with you that everyone should avoid prebuild board such example is me because I have almost no experience with skateboard ( try skating a bit when I was a kid but didn't go very far) which mean no clue on how each part effect my ride, getting a starting prebuild board (which still costly) give me an opportunity to understand how each part work on skateboard and after doing more research online I'm starting to be able to know how I like each part of the board to be, but after that I totally agree with you on DIY board would be much better compare to a prebuild cause you could get all the cool part you like and assemble it together. Although I haven't start making my first DIY board yet but i'm pretty sure my second electric skateboard will definitely be a DIY one. ( I'm also thinking about breaking apart my prebuild board for a part I like or usable to save cost )
i currently have a single hub motor board, only just underpowred as i am kid! i am looking to build a reliable belt driven board for under £390. Do you guys think this would be possible?
I litterly just bought the backfire g2 black a week ago Edit: it also costed me about 800CAD$ since i bought it from another state (us) which adds 100CAD$ and then there was fast shipping add another 100CAD$ then theres the us to CAD conversion which adds 200CAD$ so basically the board doubled the price because i live in another state...
@MBoards Hey MBoards! I have been watching your videos since the beginning and they have really made my board come to life. I bought your 12s4p battery around a year ago and have it hooked up to a dual VESC. My issue is that I don’t have a single case that can contain both the battery and VESC. In a previous video you mentioned new products and I had commented asking about an enclosure that would satisfy these dimensions. You said you would definitely come out with this type of enclosure. I am planning on building a new board but I’m waiting for you guys to come out with this enclosure. I was wondering whether this enclosure was still going to be produced and if you have any idea when it will be available for purchase? Thanks again. Your videos are great!
Thank you so much for the support! We hoped to have a 12s4p battery enclosure out by now, but COVID19 has delayed production on new items at the moment. We've had to focus on keeping our current products in stock during these crazy times! I wish I had a date for you but soon!!! In the mean time if you are desperate, we've had a couple customers splice 2 enclosures together to create one longer one :) Hope that helps!
@MBoards Thanks so much for the response! I’ll keep waiting until the product is released! Keep working hard. Everything you do is greatly appreciated!
Is there such a thing where I can pay someone to build me an electric board & that I can have the same person upgrade it for me in the future or service it for me in the future 🤔 ?
Only problem is that diy is more expencive when you start.. But when you need to change parts or upgrade it will be cheaper than buying another board.. :)
My rebuttal to this video:
As someone who has built several boards for himself, I will say that he makes a good point that if you have built your board, you will know how to fix it if something breaks. BUT...
Do you ever tell someone who is in the market to buy a motorcycle the same thing? If that person is mechanically inclined, you might. But the reality is that most people do not have the mechanical capability to build a safe, functional, legal motorcycle without making significant investments to get the tools and knowledge needed. And that probably isn't what they intended when they started thinking about getting a motorcycle. They probably just want to ride it. Just like with everything else in our modern lives, we depend on other people who specialize in certain things to be the experts because there just isn't enough time to enjoy new things if it means we need to invest the time to become specialists ourselves. You don't need to learn to code to use a computer. If you did, there would be very few people using them. Same thing goes for e-boards, and that's a big part of the reason why until very recently (as more e-board companies come on to the scene), very few people have been using them.
As a human, I feel that anybody with working hands has the physical capability to build an e-board. But unless they possess the mental motivation to learn the ins and outs of the process, it won't happen, and they will remain enthralled by people who have done it. People tell me all the time that I'm "smart" because of the things I have built. I tell them "I'm not smart. I just love doing it, so I have the motivation to learn everything there is to know about it."
Yes very good points. There are definitely people who are willing to learn and people who aren’t. Really trying to bring to light a few points in case someone is on the fence about it.
The counter-counter-argument is that the esk8 ecosystem just isn't as mature or robust as for motorcycles. If you live in/near practically any city, suburb, and even some smaller towns - you'll be able to find a reputable mechanic to service your motorcycle. The same is far from true for esk8, even though the overall complexity is way lower in general.
@@GeekProdigyGuy that's a really good point, i love both bikes and esk8 (i have shadow 750 ACE 1999 and a DIY longboard ) i can TOTALLY see this, with my bike i learned little by little listening to my mechanics advices, watching vids and reading at my own phase, if i needed something that i felt "too complicated" for me i just drive it to the mechanic, on the other hand with my Longboard i HAD to learn and watch hundreds of videos per day and read like i was preaparing for a test (and i know about that, i passed trough medicine school xd) just to build it, because when i tried to hire someone to just put all the pieces that i was buying together and not even the people from the E-scooters stores wanted to help me, so i HAD to learn, but just like he said in the vid, i wasnt buyn a branded esk8 because of the price-bennefit
@@josue1996jc damn im loving this debate lol good points all around - i just got a prebuilt (somewhat upgradeable tynee stinger) - immediately there are things I knew I wouldnt like about it that I confirmed(board height) and am already planning upgrades. I feel like I got the best of both worlds because I found a prebuilt that lets me change trucks and deck later within some limitations (not too much flex)... to be fair I found someone on reddit who did these upgrades first and I am gonna copy them so I can worry less about compatibility >.>
1.5 speed is good if you have life commitments...
For real I saw someone going 55+ on one of these lmao dudes crazy no one needs to go that fast on a skateboard, just terrifying 😂😂 that being said I want one it looked like funnn 😂🤘
I can't afford to screw up building a board i just need to get across campus reliably and safely.
Get a wowgo at2
@@NatsumeKonno kawai but airsoft
Walk ?
Yeah there’s no reason to tell beginners with zero electronics or RC experience to go DIY for their first esk8. DIY doesn’t actually start being cheaper than prebuilts until you’re doing higher end builds. A backfire zealot (which I own, I have 850 miles on it and it’s still going strong) with 12ish mile range, 29mph top speed, and reliable build quality will cost you about $650. A DIY built out of $650 worth of parts might have SLIGHTLY better specs, but sure as hell won’t have anywhere near the polish that the Zealot does, unless you really know what you’re doing. I didn’t build my DIY until I’d been esk8ing for over a year and a half, and even though I have electronics experience and I’m an information technology major, I still ran into issues. Telling a beginner to go DIY is a perfect way to have someone accidentally configure their ESC improperly and blow up their battery. There’s no shame in starting out with a prebuilt board.
About 2 years late but definitely grab a jking Jupiter 01 AT, the absolute best board for the price range. I’m going to college at NAU and there’s a ton of hills and it snows and stuff here, I can ride in any condition and it’s still comfortable
not everyone know how to build a board
where do i get the parts?
i don’t know the steps
i don’t know anything about building a board
Go to esk8 forums. So much information. I’ve had a great time building boards. I’m on my 4th one now and they get better every time. Just take your time and do your research
@@enjoyesk8978 just built my first one and the process was fun. everything is fine tuned to exactly what i want
@@joshinwithu that’s awesome bro! It is so much fun to diy. What components and parts did you use?
@@enjoyesk8978 using stormcore 60d as my esc, torqueboard direct drives 90kv as my motors, and evo falcon as my deck, with an mboards 12s4p battery on the way
@@joshinwithu dude that’s a sweet set up! I’m ordering a stormcore and spintend esc soon. I have a couple focbox’s and a couple Flipsky right now. I’m excited to try the stormcore next. The falcon deck is on the top of my list. They’re sold out everywhere it seems. Enjoy your esk8ing bro! Ride or die!
5:43 I loved “Inboard” ❤️ I have 2 boards of theirs
Most prebuild board stores have a section for replacement parts, if they dont, every part has a model number that can easily be googleable and ordered in, im not discounting your points at all, i just wanted to put this out there.
Yes the vast majority of prebuilt will offer replacements on their website, this only becomes a problem if they go under. Thanks for watching!
@@MBoardsco good point! And np 👌
I saw this video and decided that building my own board could be fun. And then I saw the cost, it's more then buying a midrange board. I don't understand are these the parts you find in high end boards?
I benefited a lot from your videos. I'm sorry, my budget was totally not in the realm for mboards, but I learned a lot about how to put everything together and was able to customize a cheap $100 board to exactly how I need.
Couldn't have done it without these videos, to be honest. So I wouldn't stress about your company going away because your UA-cam videos will inspire/teach hundreds more in the future.
When I have more money to invest, I know where I'll put it into in the future.
Thanks for the vids!!
Keesh Tech could you send me where you got some of the parts from because I’m trying to make one on a budget and I have some parts but I’m still looking for some cheap materials. If you could that we be amazing! Thanks
could you share your parts list please? :)
Put together a list of all parts and components for your build. Every now and then when you have some extra cash, buy a part. Check off each part on the list and you’ll get there sooner than later
I was Definitely leaning towards building my own. The minute you made the PC build reference I'm sold. I've built a few.
Disagree, you can't build budget board better than pre-builds. They are better because they buy in bulk. If you build, you paying more.
I just think this video is the type: Don't give them the money, give it to me.
I think you may have clicked away too soon. As I said in the video, I would feel the same way wether or not parts are purchased from us. I always urge people to shop around and check prices everywhere. This was my opinion back before our company existed as well.
In my experience, having built many boards purchasing parts at a full retail price, it is a much better value.
@@MBoardsco It's not better value. You can buy prebuilts cheaper than a DIY with the same parts. You're talking out your ass.
You'll also need to remember that even if you find a prebuilt board for less money right from the beginning, upgrading or repairing parts can be difficult. Many times this leads to a new purchase of a prebuilt all together rather than a couple upgrades here or there which would push the price up over time. Totally two different ways of thinking about it, neither are wrong.
I spent £350 on one on sale, does 27mph and goes 12 mile, if you can build me a board for that I’d be amazed.
That's a pretty good deal, can I ask which brand that was? With enough shopping around I think I'd be up for the challenge :)
I agree to an extent. As an Esk8ter I started off pre built boards from China which was ok as a beginner but now I'm totally prefer a DIY board open source VESC.
Where do I start for diy
Message us here on Instagram: @mboardsco
Oh hell yeah I got a board as a present when I was like 16 never thought of building one and honestly it sounds fun hopefully goes well
Mike, I built my 1st esk8 from your products and really happy with it. I agree with everything you said. The only thing I would add is if you're not sure if esk8 is something you really want to expand on, then spending a bit on a prebuilt is fine. But if you know you want to tweak the board and upgrade in the future, best to jump right into DIY in the beginning.
Exactly! Upgrading and tweaking is so important! Should have talked about tweaking settings, definitely something that gets overlooked (I even overlooked it here haha).
I bought a Meepo V3($430 30mph top speed and 10 mile range but I've gotten it to 12 on single charge), and after over 500miles(800km), I've decided that i wanted another Meepo, so i just ordered a new V3 with an extended range battery(claims 20 mile). But after seeing your video i feel like i should've just build my own! Wish i saw your channel sooner, i fear i may have been lucky with not having any trouble with a Chinese board after so long
I’m glad you’ve had good luck man!
i bought the lacroix nazare lonestar! its very expensive but the best board i have ever seen so far.. and i am too lazy to build a board my own.
how much disposable cash do you have???? holy shit
I bought a very used skatebolt tornado ii for 80 bucks. I plan on changing the deck and maybe the battery. Its my first eboard so my plan is to learn some things before dumping a ton of money into this hobby. Its good enough for right now.
Great way to start! Upgrading used boards is very under rated
One factor you need to consider for beginners is sometimes people make mistakes. If you make a mistake, like soldering something backwards, or buying something wrong, the cost can really add up. But I definitely agree that building is the best option if you know what you're doing.
Yes! Great point as well. Plenty of research will help with mistakes but yes mistakes do happen! Been there done that!
@@MBoardsco mistakes are gud aye bro, it's all part of learning to DIY. Been dea few times.
But you can put different esc/motor in branded boards.
Many times yes, modification of existing boards can be a great way to save some money as well. Some brands are definitely more easily modifiable than others but still a great point!
Just bought two 6355 motors, mounts, kegel pulleys, dual belt VESCs from you. Making a 10s3p battery myself out of Samsung 30Qs. I will hopefully be putting together a build video at some point in the future. I'll be comparing it to my brother's evolve carbon GT.
That's awesome man! Would love to see a comparison!
Hi, I am wondering if I could build a board that goes 25+ miles per hour with a long battery life for under 400$
I've been looking for DIY kits for the last fews weeks. I had looked at M boards during the process, but I was going to order from an option over seas. After watching this video this morning, I realized I agree with a lot of things said and it made me think differently about my purchase. I just placed order with M boards about half an hour ago. I would rather pay a little more to support a locally owned company. Thank you for what you are doing.
How'd it go ?
@@testsubject5nukemwolf340 he's still putting it together.
What i realized after building an electric skateboard few years ago, is that i don't need an e-board.
And i've been riding unpowered boards ever since, no range anxiety, lightweight, kicktails + ollies, cheap, almost no maintenance, no charging, less injuries since you don't go that fast.
But new components are looking so good, i'm starting to think about building a tiny electric cruiser next season.
OK so I'm not new to diy electronics but I'm new to electric skateboards, what can I do for the price of a meepo v3?
I'm 5 boards in and I have broken all of them. Not a single one even got close to a dollar per mile. 3 year's of commuting to work every day it doesn't rain, priceless!
Bro I have 800 on my meepo mini 2
@@scantube310 that's awesome
Electrical and software engineer here: I’m all for making things from scratch; I diy TONS of things but anything dealing with large lipos and power systems are items I would recommend having someone else do.
While there are certainly good kits and tutorials available, unless you are being scrupulous in which controllers and batteries you buy, you risk getting something that is dangerously poor designed. This isn’t the place for sticking to a budget.
Along the same lines, I would also recommend against most “Chinese” boards for a lot of the reasons you mention. You aren’t likely to find a service center or quality replacement parts for your board. There is also little to no accountability for the brands; if a Chinese brand gets a bad reputation, they just change the name, add a new logo, and sell it under another company.
Would you guys ever make a 43.2v 12s1p battery with the Anderson connector that would fit into an Inboard? Would be so sick since they are out of business
We are currently looking into offering a significant offering of replacement parts for Prebuilt boards as many brands don't have replacement parts available at the moment.
@@MBoardsco Seriously, that's awesome and would be a huge lifesaver for many of the people in the Inboard community!
@@huntermcc0y I agree. 2 batteries depleted and cannot get them back to charge
If anyone has one they'd be willing to send to us, I'd be happy get it opened up and get a production plan started :) Message me on instagram @mboardsco
@@MBoardsco Awesome, I'll shoot you a DM!
Great video man. Was super busy looking for a prebuilt. Please give me a direction on where i can build my diy board
Thanks
Of course he’s saying this... he sells parts, not pre-built boards.
True true, but my opinion still stands referring to the other DIY brands out there.
I prefer the level of customization to anything that I build. If a battery goes bad which enviably it will, I'd like the ability to switch out that myself with being at the mercy of someone else. With that being said, this dude is in the business of selling parts. If you're not interested, head over elsewhere for a pre-built.
Joseph Vu I’ll head wherever I feel like it, thanks.
Nice video but it's kinda hard to compete with chinese brands who are buying parts wholesale. For your time and cost of parts you can't beat a $4-5 hundred board. I'm riding a Sapphire pro and wouldn't have been able to replicate this easily. The only real benefit to building your own board is , like you said , you can fix and service your board with ease because you know your board well. Just my opinion.
Okay where do I buy the parts then
Good to know one can DIY e-boards. Alright, I'm 6"3 231lb, live in a hilly are, I will be commuting & fun rides, I cherish ranger over speed but a little umff won't hurt. I want a design & feel like that of Exway Flex board. What complete list of Mboard parts do I need to get a board running upon delivery, shipped here to Poland, simple parts and prices on the side list please, let's see if this is a realistic claim.
When I first wanted to get into electric skateboarding, I wanted to build one but after calculating everything it would cost the same as an Evolve GT if not more (back in 2015) and if buying off the shelf, you also get support if something breaks and they would also be liable if anything were to happen (due to their components). I have owned both Evolve and Boosted and both customer support are great. I can't imagine trying to get a hold of a component supplier from Banggood or some sort if I had built a board that lasted me 2-3 years.sd
I spent $1800 or more on the Evolve Bamboo GTX and built my own board for $1200. My board has all top notch components unlike Evolve
@@enjoyesk8978 I spent $200nzd ($100usd) on a boosted board and $1500NZD about $750usd, much less than you spent on a evolve bamboo GT. I win.
SAXASIANGUY yeah Evolve is much cheaper for you. My board would still smoke an Evolve any day of the week
Great, your honest and feel abundant. Freedom to the consumer and longevity to the honest entrepreneurs
SYL-08 skateboard. Yey or ney?
DIY will never become legal onpublic roads and wil stay by far more expensive. And: Trial and error is prone to hurt a lot. Pls reconsider.
I think you're correct talking from a US prospective. In Europe things, I've noticed, are more expensive, starting from the batteries. On top of that overhere there's not that great availability or parts (trucks, WHEELS, etc) as in US. I agree though that a DIY its better cos we can learn to fix, build and replace batteries and so forth...so yeah...once a person get 700 euro or so can make a decent eskate. As for prebuilt eskates I wonder how much I can trust about the age of the batteries used...or where do they come from (disintegrated Tesla's car and such as?) are these companies always using brand new battery cells? Whilst with a DIY you buy batteries, you test one by one and eventually you send them back if aren't good (or at least buy from a reliable battery store). Time consuming but the final result will be more lasting.
Has the tech come far enough yet that I could build an electric street board that I can ollie up curbs with?
Another vote from me for an Inboard M1 battery. There's a lot of people looking for them. Mine are still running, but I don't want to change a board I bought a year ago and have hardly ridden.
We’ve got one here now and have taken it apart. Working on a replacement now 👍🏻
@@MBoardsco Put me down for two :D ;)
@@MBoardsco put me down for 4!!
I built my own and its an absolute weapon! I love how you can customize every part to suit your own taste. One of the best features of mine is that it runs on 6 makita batteries. Goes for ages and I can carry spares in a backpack.
BUT i won't lie, its insanely dangerous! Always wear protective gear, a helmet and gloves is the bare minimum for me
Sounds like a beast man! Great job!
where can i learn to build the one you made myself?
You took the words strait outa my mouth! I couldn’t of said it better myself bro!! DIY is the right way to go!!!
I’ve been build about almost2 yrs now and my board is pro and a serious contender!!
@@ManifoldSky being the fastest, most economical board on the road!
I’m the great white shark in a sea of guppies! In the greater Vancouver Canada area!
No company builds a board as fast and vicious as my DEMONA!!
What is with the dislike ratio?
I would build one but I don’t know how and where to order parts from
(I'm 16)About 1.5 years ago I bought a 350 dollar board I put like 1000 miles on it and I always thought it wasn't enough and I really didn't think about building one myself. I think that's amazing so thank you for the information I will definitely check out your channel.
I'll check out your site. I'm new to electric and bought a couple of Wowgo boards off ebay just to learn about the feel of the boards and also the mechanics. I am wondering if I might remove the Wowgo rear hub motors (from Wowgo 3) and rear truck and substitute in parts from M Boards. Not sure about that.
I would love to purchase a board from you guys! Could you help me put one together?
Absolutely! Feel free to chat with us on our website and we’d be happy to get you started!
To be fair, I actually brought a prebuilt board and just changed everything else. For example:
The board I brought uses 70kv ESC/motor, so I just buy an esc with that same kv, change the settings a bit and we good. The battery don't make much of a different since its mainly to supply power to the esc.
My board came with a 10s5p battery so I'm not worried about an upgrade on that anytime soon.
I am a big advocate of diy projects.. currently in the middle of building my first diy esk8, which 95% of the items are mboard products.
Mike’s videos got me into this and I am super excited to get riding! Thanks Mike!
That's amazing! Our parts or not, I love that we were able to help you along your ESK8 journey through our videos.
How did this go?
where do you recommend shopping for hun motors, decks, etc? I would love to build a mini with dual hub motors and cloudwheels 🙏
there are upgradeable boards you say there not but check the exway wave or flex you can replace the battery the motors from hub to belt you can replace the deck and you can replace the wheels.
There definitely are boards that are more serviceable than others. My main point is that if Exway went out of business, there is still quite a bit of proprietary design going on to make repairs difficult if Exway ever disappears.
@@MBoardsco yeh but are you also going to make your own phone if apple or samsung went out off business its unusable you can say that argument for everything
This theory works with some categories but not others, might as well attempt to future proof wherever possible.
What if a pedestrian pushes you off the board and steals it?
Would it be worth the money buying one despite the laws?
Optic500 They gotta get your/
a controller I could catch up to a dual/single hub
Had a look at your webpage but no matter how I put parts together it still becomes much more expensive than competitive complete OEM boards. Also the direct drives will get hurt very easily.
In order to do something like diy you should have already good experience, because in all another cases you will pay more extra for your mistakes - was proved on own experience
Yes mistakes can definitely be costly 😬
But that is only way to get expirience
just got here, i love how honest you are.
Welcome to the channel!
Do you know how to build a board? If so do you think you could help me out?
Our team would be happy to help!
Shoot us an email here: support@mboards.co
evrything you said makes 100% sense...great video. i was almost set on buying pre assembled, now theres no way
Yeah but you got to take in consideration customer service, warranty in the fact that companies take their money and put a good portion in the R&D to further advance the industry
This also applies to DIY companies 👍🏻
can you not swap out esc"s, batteries, or motors on pre built boards?
Depends on the board! Some boards are much easier to work on than others. But some boards use proprietary parts that must be purchased from the original manufacturer.
@@MBoardsco what about a meepo board?
Nah mate, pre built boards are built and designed with more beauty than if I were to build it in my backyard
That depends on how much time you spend building and designing. We’ve got some incredibly talented builders here in the community.
@@MBoardsco Then the whole video "depends" on what you go for.
You speak of so much nonsense and when you mention about swapping motors on a DIY board being easy vs PreBuilt being harder also depends no? It's the same concept.
Goddamn people run out of originality and ideas for content on here.
Of course it depends on the exact board you’ve got. But there are proprietary parts on nearly every production board that makes repairs and upgrades very difficult.
Pretty straight forward concept.
@@MBoardsco Pretty straight forward indeed as to having your PC in need of a new PSU you dont have to contact the PreBuilt company to repair it your self but instead install a new one.
What's so different about a prebuild board? The Eboard community is literally about costumizing your boards from little to almost everything, getting a company based board doesnt exclude you from these possibilities, they only provide a solid support foundation, a helpful community and a quality board for your money.
Im unaware of that repairs and upgrades you mean but trucks and belts are literally on site for little to no price if I want to do a repair, and from my experience with Evolve and their app they literally tell you that you and your posaibilities are your own boundries, not them or the build.
It's like I tell you next time you want to cook pasta go build an over your self, or go build your own house because then it will be easier to repair than having other guys hired to do it for you... and then the audacity you must have to like your own comments on an argument...
Have a good day man. And not liking my own comments 😉
Its the samething with the drone hobby. Build your own drone with better parts instead of going DJI. I agree 100% with your point of view. You learn and its fun !
I need an e board to get around a suburban/city area. Any tips please 🙏🏽
Today I got pulled over on my electric skateboard in the Netherlands like I’m 12 do you really not have anything else to do I had to get out of the house to stop playing video games so I went on my board and got pulled over the man was so aggressive i just said I didn’t know so got of with a warning but com on
Sorry for bad spelling
Jammer maatje, rij al bijna 1 jaar en mij nog nooit overkomen.
That sucks you guys can't cruise everywhere. Wtf
Were u on the road?
Yeah I heard they're really strict about it in European countries. It's fine for us in New Zealand though
idk I bought a backfire zealot s for $800 and i looked up parts to build a comparable board and there was no way I could build one that had similar specs. look at beast board viper. its $550 and has a battery that would cost $400 to build. the $150 left over is not gonna buy the rest of the parts needed. it just wont. the motors should be replaceable on the backfire board. they use hobbywing motors, esc, etc. I dont see how it couldnt be fixed.
Even tho this is your opinions... Everything you said is literally facts. Lol
About the diy stuff...
There is one thing you and your suppliers needs to improve on... we need data sheets!!! As a drone pilot, We have data sheets on everything(motor, esc, flight controller and video transmitter). I need to know the amp consumption on each motor, so I could match or future proof my esc. I want to makes sure my esc supply the right amperage to the motor. If not, I could fried the esc because the motor is drawing to much amp. Don't forget the skateboard has to carry us as well. Currently, I cant find parts because your store or other websites doesn't have this information. This is important because I'm trying to get into this hobby.
you mentioned that the diy brands all sort of use a standard. I love you kits and DIY builder but I want double kingpin trucks which i found on Flipsky's website. Would your motor fit on their motor mount?
Yes ☺️
I don't understand how you can say your just beat basically if you buy a prebuilt board and wanna upgrade battery or change motor. Ive done this with no problems. Basically turned a evolve into a diy, built my own battery, changed ESC ect.
i do i agree with your statements !! diy is not much cheaper , as you kinda have to have your own spot welder , nickel stips , be careful with the bms and those things ! but you can just make your battery suit your needs , if you need acceleration , go 12s ! its kinda more customizable ! but in the end , you get to pay kinda more in the diy world ! but yet again , i believe its worth it !
If you decide to build your own battery pack you do get into a whole new level of DIY. Most DIYers don't build their own battery packs and save money on specialized tools. Many builds won't need much more than a screw driver. But YES definitely worth the freedom of upgrading and customizing.
@@MBoardsco yep, I absolutely agree! But I kinda don't trust a company to ship me a sealed pack! If I am going to push the limits of my board I want to know even the smallest detail! Also , I have a question ! I am thinking of buying a 18650 spot welder ! The one that's portable not the big one ! It's because it's my first build and I don't want to spend all that money on the big one ! Is it any good??
That's a great point! If you build your battery then you know 100% what cells are inside. I'd be happy to take a look for you, send us a message on instagram with a link and I'll check it out :)
Very curious if a diy board could be built for $700 that'd beat or even be comparable to the components of the backfire zealot.
Hi there, this is totally unrelated to your video but can you please give us the option to choose the currencies on your website? I would totally appreciate it
Will absolutely look into implementing this ASAP! Thank you for the suggestion!
Do you use salvaged Tesla batteries for DIY battery packs, if not, have you ever consider to build your own pack?
I would love to build a battery pack from Tesla model 3, 2170 cells.
Yo im looking to get a board and I don't know whether to build or buy a board. I have a £400 budget. What do you recommend?
Yes don’t give your money to someone, give it to me and build your own
Or any other of the DIY Brands. All of this info applies to them as well. We want to see the DIY community and companies to grow as a whole :)
He addresses this at 7:35
I wanna buy a board that’s around 300-400 CAD that goes at least 15mph speed, I’m just worried about duties and taxes. Cause that will make it so expensive. Anyone recommend what board I should buy?
Meepo v3.
Price: 380$ (or around those number)
Mph: 31
Miles: lasts around 10 miles
Plus board has a handle grip
Hi, i was wondering where can i find a cheaper 10s2p battery or something similar since i'm on a tight budget.
I would take a look at as many DIY Electric Skateboard shops as you can. Try to price check or even ask the vendor to price match if the battery is near identical. Taking a look at a preowned listing somewhere can be useful but be cautious when doing that. Building your own pack can be cheaper but depending on what equipment you already have it may not be cheaper.
I can't recommend using battery packs with sub-premium cells inside due to safety concerns but you may be able to get buy with one if you happen to find one for the right price as a temporary battery, still can't officially recommend it though.
Build your own battery and save big $
Dude just blew my mind I never considered building it myself
I agree for the most part but I would say that it also depends where your from. If you live somewhere which is very dry I would say you may as well build it but if you live in the UK like me where sometimes I am forced to ride in the rain. A pre built board is probably the way to go as it will probably have water resistant features. Also pre built boards can also have swappable batteries, my one does although I rarely have to use it. And terms of power the board can still max out at about 30 (not that i am brave enough too go that speed most of the time). So unless anyone knows any good water resistant DIY solutions I think thats a good enough reason to buy pre built over custom
No I don’t think will
What about exway electric skateboard would that be a good one to buy cuz that seems like bang for your buck and they have extra parts that you could buy
There are a lot of good option out there. Our main concern is what do you do if they discontinue a specific board and stop selling the replacement parts? Or what if Exway goes out of business and stops producing parts all together?
That’s why we are so on board with DIY. No matter what happens, no matter who is in business or isn’t, there will always be parts available from somewhere to make repairs and upgrades.
I'ved built four diy boards and there's no way you can build a board thets reliable and long range with good parts for $400 or even $500. You wanna buy good parts that won't break going down the street. I get what your saying though.
Absolutely! Not saying $400 is an adequate budget, but I'd take a $400 DIY board over a $400 prebuilt board every day.
@@MBoardsco If you put together a battery pack using LG 18650 batteries, you often pay 100 to 200 dollars more. Factor that in and a prebuilt is cheaper with the same battery pack. Sometimes it's better to buy a prebuilt and customise it. A lot of companies will sell you a base package that you can then customise later on.
You need to understand as a business owner, you can't be saying do this because I think it's better. You need to look at the bigger picture and use facts. DIY is the hobbyist way of doing something. Obviously in some ways it's better but most of the time, (coming from an eboard DIY and prebuilt owner), it's an expensive and pointless way to enjoy something. You need to encourage and not start poking at people who buy prebuilt.
Absolutely not poking at anyone who decides to go with Prebuilt, there are plenty of reasons to buy prebuilt but those reasons aren't worth it to us in our eyes. Customizability and sense of accomplishment after a build is complete doesn't exist with prebuilt boards. Again just sharing our opinion incase someone is looking for some extra reasoning.
MBoards i agree.
Is it possible to build a board that is comparable to the top of the line prebuilts like the lacroix lonestar and the kaly xl40?
Yes, those boards are pretty much “mass produced” DIY boards
I agree with you and this goes for a lot of other things such as building PCs but as you mentioned, it's not for everyone. Most people just want to buy something and use it right away. Good video tho but not for most people.
Hi all
Yeh i really liked the idea of a diy board but after a few hours of research all i came up with was a headache, trying to weigh up the pros an cons i came to the conclusion that it just wasn't good value, cheaper yes but not cheap enough, diy would've been more fun though but ... i went with the evolve gtr bamboo an has warranty, if your worried about the budget then save fot it, sometimes doing things on the cheap can come back to bite ya ass.
Cheers from oz
I recommend Boundmotor. They use an open source esc.
Unsuitable bound is complete rubbish & a rip off
There needs to be more of this!
I agree with you, but as easy as it may seem for you to build an eskateboard, there’s at least thousands+ people out there that would fail miserably at it. Like me, and I’ve built an electric bicycle. Lol take my 1st attempt at it, I bought a cheap esc that came with no manual, and after troubleshooting the thing I still couldn’t figure it out and had to sell it and some other unnecessary parts that I bought on eBay. Fortunately I got some of my money back and learned from my mistakes I know I want a better esc like a dual vesc and that’s pretty much all I need to finish the project but Still haven’t bought it. I’ll get around to it and finish the project one day! Lol
Absolutely! There’s definitely people who aren’t into the DIY thing, and a prebuilt would be perfect for them!
They don't make you send your board in.. they send you parts to fix yourself... I just got free battery from Meepo and Backfire.. my batteries were fine I just wanted replacement while it was still under warranty
Yes that is how many companies operate now.
Back when this video came out, boosted was the leader in this space and they had everyone send their boards in. Evolve operates this way as well.
If I am on the heavy side and I want to build my own point me in the right direction.
Shoot us an email: support@mboards.co
We’d love to help you get a parts list together 👍🏻
Where can I choose parts
Our Kit Builder is a great place to start 😎
mboards.co/kitbuilder
Where do you get your skateboard parts and supplies 🤔?
I found your channel after I start researching about how to build my own electric skateboard which is very informative on different part that I have almost no knowledge about, although I don't really agree with you that everyone should avoid prebuild board such example is me because I have almost no experience with skateboard ( try skating a bit when I was a kid but didn't go very far) which mean no clue on how each part effect my ride, getting a starting prebuild board (which still costly) give me an opportunity to understand how each part work on skateboard and after doing more research online I'm starting to be able to know how I like each part of the board to be, but after that I totally agree with you on DIY board would be much better compare to a prebuild cause you could get all the cool part you like and assemble it together.
Although I haven't start making my first DIY board yet but i'm pretty sure my second electric skateboard will definitely be a DIY one.
( I'm also thinking about breaking apart my prebuild board for a part I like or usable to save cost )
i currently have a single hub motor board, only just underpowred as i am kid! i am looking to build a reliable belt driven board for under £390. Do you guys think this would be possible?
cool that you guys still around
are you guys responding to emails now ? because mailed 2 weeks a go didnt get any response
Yes we’re around! A little nuts dealing with COVID19 and shipping, but shoot us an email or message us on Instagram 👍🏻
@@MBoardsco cool ive send you an email with my questions 👍 greetings nick
I agree with your point
I want to build my own electric skate board with a wide old school powell deck.
Did you get it done?
5:40, what brand is he talking about
He said biggest so I guess Boosted cuz they shut down?
I litterly just bought the backfire g2 black a week ago
Edit: it also costed me about 800CAD$ since i bought it from another state (us) which adds 100CAD$ and then there was fast shipping add another 100CAD$ then theres the us to CAD conversion which adds 200CAD$ so basically the board doubled the price because i live in another state...
Yikes! Yes import taxes also play into the final cost. Unfortunate reality when purchasing internationally 😭
@@MBoardsco yeah its terrible, worked so hard for building up a budget to buy it and my budget was omega crushed. Guess ps5 will wait next year 😅😅
@MBoards Hey MBoards! I have been watching your videos since the beginning and they have really made my board come to life. I bought your 12s4p battery around a year ago and have it hooked up to a dual VESC. My issue is that I don’t have a single case that can contain both the battery and VESC. In a previous video you mentioned new products and I had commented asking about an enclosure that would satisfy these dimensions. You said you would definitely come out with this type of enclosure. I am planning on building a new board but I’m waiting for you guys to come out with this enclosure. I was wondering whether this enclosure was still going to be produced and if you have any idea when it will be available for purchase?
Thanks again. Your videos are great!
Thank you so much for the support! We hoped to have a 12s4p battery enclosure out by now, but COVID19 has delayed production on new items at the moment. We've had to focus on keeping our current products in stock during these crazy times! I wish I had a date for you but soon!!!
In the mean time if you are desperate, we've had a couple customers splice 2 enclosures together to create one longer one :) Hope that helps!
@MBoards Thanks so much for the response! I’ll keep waiting until the product is released! Keep working hard. Everything you do is greatly appreciated!
Is there such a thing where I can pay someone to build me an electric board & that I can have the same person upgrade it for me in the future or service it for me in the future 🤔 ?
Fiverr maybe. Couldn't guarantee the quality of board you'll get though
Only problem is that diy is more expencive when you start.. But when you need to change parts or upgrade it will be cheaper than buying another board.. :)
Right! Short term extra expense, long term savings!
Hey mike I just wanted to ask you how we are able to change currencies on your m boards website???.
We are currently looking into adding the feature. Looking like it is a bit more complex than we originally though. Working on adding it now!
guys.
what brand is he talking about?
I believe he is talking about Boosted Boards, they went out of business last month. I was so shocked when I heard this
It’s highly likely you could fit a “DIY” motor and esc to a branded deck, a Chinese board is just a DIY board already done
There are plenty of boards out there that use proprietary ESCs, batteries, etc. Some brands are much easier to work on than others.