BUFFED ILLARI is still F TIER... and here's why | Overwatch 2
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She's a ranged support with no ranged healing. She excels at holding off angles by herself but leaves entire team behind without heals. Right click beam healing is completely unused when off angling. Low fire rate and short duration on right click, can't keep a tank outside of critical with right click, ultimate still incredibly easy to eat, deflect, and block. She's a poke character that has to constantly leave angles to stick with teammates pushing her in a brawl stance where she does not have the sustain to stay alive. Depends on pylon as primary source of healing.
Anything else i missed?
edit: Oh, and the fact the pylon is her primary source of healing means that in some maps she may as well have no healing. In that Lijiang control center game ML7 couldnt put good pylons by just the nature of the game mode and the map design. Meaning that Illari is map dependant and gamemode dependant. Defensive pylons are easy to put on escort maps for example, but do not stay up for long in offensive rounds.
I really tried to get good at her, but her kits just feel awkward, like you said, just feels so mixed matched.
Contradicting design, not sure if buffs can fix a flawed character design.
She either needs better close range offense, or better long range healing.
Hated her design from the beginning
@ghoulbuster1 Yeah a part of me feels like she'd be better as a Dps without the healing as some sort of dps/support hybrid. But if they want to keep her as a support they need to find ways for her to be a Ranged support without relying on the pylon. Which is a shame because I like the accuracy aspect of the healing beam but it just doesn't makes sense for her to have mid to short range healing...
They could just make her heal beam super long or something, like 20 meters idk who thought short range healing but long range damage was a good idea
I just don’t know if blizzard knows what her identity is. Is she a flanking support that stays alone or does she play with her team? She doesn’t have enough healing to stay with her team, and she doesn’t have enough range to poke hard enough to make much of an impact. The health buffs just made things worse for her on top of that.
I think blizzard has a better memory than you do when these characters come out and they are slightly overturned peoppe lose thier minds. Illari had her healing and damage reduced and really only needs one or the other buffed. Her ID is to be a poking support from range. She plays well in poke metas.
She got nerfed to crap.
That is what happened.
@@ubadman1 there’s a reason why zen is meta and not her this season. She’s not good enough at poking. And her heals are terrible
being an illari main is so difficult this season she just needs sm tuning and it’s extremely awkward to play
the crazy thing is ur main is a social construct you can always use somebody else you should have a roster
@smyharem A main is a hero someone mostly plays and has the most experience with. Not much to do with anything being a social construct.
"A social construct is any category or thing that is made real by convention or collective agreement."
I guess you could argue the side of having a main that represents in some form your own personality or something and sticking to it for that reason would be a social construct.
Nothing was changed about her primary damage when everybody got free HP buffs, so it takes significantly more shots to finish someone off. Same with Moira. Coalescence does like 5hp more damage than her PRIMARY FIRE. lol.
Wait, did other characters get the primary damage buffed? Isn’t that just the case with every other character? Like hanzo not being able to one shot the majority of heroes anymore
@@AshVXmc They buffed Moira's primary damage, but never touched Coalescence, so her ultimate barely does more damage than her regular suck, which in this season, damage > healing.
@@enterthekyuubicoal’s power doesn’t come from its raw damage output, it comes from the fact that it pierces through multiple targets and has an insane range, most of the time you don’t pop coal to get kills but to pressure the enemy
@hyeongpinkz In previous seasons sure, but this season is a different story. Healing overall is far less effective thanks to the DPS passive, so a majority of the time, you're gonna see Moiras pop coal to secure or clean up kills as DPS. Trying to save a teammate with it doesn't really do much now.
"Significantly" So you mean it takes one more bodyshot or still 2 headshots? Not that big of a deal actually.
The duality of South American supports. Lucio is S-tier while Illari rots at the bottom of F-tier.
wat
@@vintage8704 I’m assuming Lucio and illari are both South American
@@doom7607you would be correct as Lucio is Brazilian and Illari is Peruvian
F-tier is honestly a compliment. At this point, Illari is just a cosmetic picture in role selection for support. She is a throw pick even in quick play games which says a lot.
@@doom7607do you know the history of brazil? they were released from the portuguese and made bigger containing uruguay called the brazilian empire until it collapsed
one thing about peru is that after the spanish released their latin colonies, there was a plan to make a huge south american power called the andes federation, columbia was made gran columbia and peru was made something called the peru-bolivian federation which consisted of modern day peru and bolivia. but still, gran columbia and the peru-bolivian confederation never united. eventually peru lost bolivia.
I genuinely feel like Illari's biggest problem is just her normal heals. Especially with the new dps passive, her beam just doesn't output enough healing for how quickly you can run out of it. They should either buff its healing, buff its duration, or buff both of those.
And it sucks cause she's probably my favourite support to play, but i feel like i can just get better value out of Kiriko or Brig for a lot less effort.
right? on launch it was 120hps for 3 seconds - great. now with the DPS passive it’s 88hps for 3 seconds - slop.
Exactly. I think she would improve a lot if her right click heal had higher burst and a little longer range.
I main Illari and Bap, and while I enjoy Illari‘s mobility and kit a little more and just can‘t justify playing her in comp when Bap ist just her but strictly better.
Illari is a poke/range hero with a close combat healing gun, her pylon is alright on certain maps but I dont think it’s enough to make her viable. Her beam definitely needs more ammo or healing. Also one change that could also help alot is an increased range to her beam, shes a range hero after all.
I think it makes sense if your team is playing close, but keeping the enemies at bay, but the beam absolutely needs to heal more or longer
I think one way to make her ultimate better would be if she could cast it and shoot it faster, almost instantly, so the window to counter it is shorter.
If that's not enough they could make it able to go through shields again
Illari needs her healing resource buffed significantly. Just to bring her back on par with her power before the season 9 health changes
her ult should mark your teammates as well and do the exact opposite of the dps version.
oh...... that's an amazing idea!
it makes sense to have some of that duality, yeah. then you can also use it defensively, or try to get both some divers and the enemy team.
Currently its a 40% slow and the explosion. A friendly version could be 40% speed (busted), a 20% healing increase (what you said) and/or a "healing sun" that also explodes, dealing the same healing (or even just damage) as the normal sunstruck explosion
@@IHateNumbersOnNames 40% speed boost would be so op lol
@@IHateNumbersOnNames even just a 10% healing increase and %10 speed boost would be sick
great idea!
Crazy how illari went from being one of the BEST supports to all the way to rock bottom. Sad days ):
She was good first launched, then those other hero hp buff destroyed her. Should increase her healing bar thingy maybe similar to Moira length.
its so rare i find any value with illari ult bc so many things can cleanse it and your shots are so slow so the enemy can just run
i think they need to increase her rate of fire but not increase her damage, and something else to compensate for her lack of ranged healing. she has her pylon but it gets destroyed easily and you cant throw it to your team like a moira orb. maybe change the way its placed or how fast it deploys. cuz a lot of times it gets destroyed before it finishes deploying (at least in my experience in plat)
Ngl I kinda called out these issues basically immediately when illari came out her ult doesn’t get consistent value like every other support and after they nerfed her healing beam I already saw the issue that could happen especially after introducing the dps passive and buffing hp
I was hoping the beam to her healing would get buffed somehow. Maybe reload time reduced or something
I still think her ultimate should go through shields. Light passes through shields so why can't Captive Sun?
Facts
i always thought of the idea to make her sunburst boop thing do 25 dmg so it does a little bit more
or at least enough dmg to double headshot and boop to secure a kill
another option would be to remove the extra damage to detonate once a target is affected, instead it will explode on its own after a few seconds. while the shot can be intercepted, once it impacts it cant be removed. and or it can also detonate on friendly players and the ball on the player heals over time until it fades out enemies shooting at it reduces the hot duration which also acts as a small damage shield. this would make the Ult more utility as a defensive or offensive use. a bit more player tactical choice n application.
why does nobody ask for a healing beam RANGE buff? that would make her so much better, as well as increasing the total healing meter (not the hps)
the first release of illari I had a 74% win rate in comp. i will never get that back😭
Illari meta: give her ability to heal with her primary fire, like ana, shoot enemy do damage and shoot ally heal them
Also lower pylon cooldown
Then you can’t play with your team at all because they will usually block your shots. It works on Ana because she has a sniper rifle.
Make her ult an AOE like Sombra’s EMP. It can’t be easily countered and it makes sense with her lore as that’s how she killed her own people.
If the lamp is stronger she would be fine. Maybe have the ult make characters explode instantly instead of requiring extra damage. Sombra ult works well with illari ult though.
Besides buffing her damage and or healing beam. They should give her a m1/m2 option while she’s ulting. That way she’s not just floating around waiting for her ult to get baited. At least there is some kind of mind game as to when it’s going to go off.
Imo they have to start with either increasing the resource for healing so she can heal longer, or increase the numbers done by the healing beam. She feels like she has a lower effective hpps than Zenyatta at this point due to her range being limited and her constant need to "wait" to reload her resource (if we're solely talking the healing beam, not the pylon)
The pylon is a cool idea but destroyed so easily and so big that it's pretty much always visible to the enemy team if you want to heal your team effectively, there's few times where it actually heals your team in a teamfight while it's hidden for enemy eyes
Her primary fire is fine in terms of damage I feel, even if everyone got a health buff, her damage numbers in a game don't lie if you play her correctly, I just think the speed at which you can fire full charge is a bit too slow, especially if you get 321'd by a dive squad
Her ult being buffed someway that keeps an enemy tagged regardless of if they're tagged would be nice, though not sure if the devs would want to go that way. It gets too little value imo
Illari is a hero that's main strength was getting kills and healing. People said healing was too high so now she has no healing. People said they don't like burst dmg, now she does no dmg. Illari isn't a hero anymore unfortunately. It's kind of sad but OW2 heroes in general just kind of suck and the playerbase seems to want it to be that way.
People would rather complain than learn to play against something. It’s human nature to want easy way out.
A couple buffs and she could be in the meta:
- Make her ult a beam instead of a projectile so that is goes through more defensive abilities. Also, make the ult beam a resource that depletes after a few seconds of clicking so that it's not just a single instance of damage that applies the mark (probably give it a dmg threshold instead of immediately mark enemies). I think it would make the ult a bit more flexible and maybe a way to deal with the suzu/tp/fade situation. Reduce a bit the impact aoe since now its direction would be controllable.
- Add a buff to right clicked allies, "Solar protection", that reduces damage taken of affected allies by x% amount (10-30%?) and lasts for 2 seconds afterwards
Not necessary to add both buffs but maybe a combination of them or maybe something different based on these ideas.
Just a few thoughts.
I feel like the second point could be a fun idea, why do they not already have a hero that can boost “defense”? Damage reduction already exists with hog and dmg boost already exists with mercy, so why do they not have a character that can sustain people but with somewhat lower healing? That may also help against people being instantly popped if they have discord and whatnot, allowing tanks to somewhat stay alive if they play their resources instead of dying the instant they peek. A lot of characters already denies some aspect of the same with suzu, defense matrix, etc. so I don’t think its that far of a stretch for a more defensive support
idk about the solar protection that seems like a bit much
I would like to see holding down primary fire shoot out fully charged shots, if you wanted the quick low damage ones you could tap rapidly. IMO would make aiming more comfortable and less reliant on a tiny brightness change on the hud, especially because the charge time doesn't feel natural.
It takes a second to charge. It should be around Ana’s fire rate I think?
Imo she is a defensive support thats meant to hold chokes. She is not meant to be super agressive but just enough to be lined up with her teammates so you can get easy heals across everyone
Well the way she's played in high ELO and in pro settings is that she basically doesn't do much of any healing to the core of the team, ever. She goes off on her own off angle and supports the team by being able to support herself and constantly rotate around the enemy team and get elims and apply pressure. Basically, a play style that in anything other than high GM would probably see you reported for throwing 9/10 times even if it's working well.
literally had a game where an enemy illari threw it for their team because they went off angle in the final fight to try and get picks and left their team with one support. stats didn't look good either because while all other dps supports were doing 10k damage and heal. she had just as high damage at half the amount of heal.
Illari’s got like 3 core issues.
1. Her Usual Playstyle.
Off-angling just isn’t as valuable when it takes you so long to kill anyone now, your self heal is so much weaker because dps passive, and your team (especially tank) having to rely solely on the other support is much harder with the dps passive.
2. Her Value.
Illari’s main source of value was her lethality. A hero like Cassidy went up in value a lot because his fire rate is fast enough that he is able to get the extra shot in before the other heroes. Illari is the exact opposite. Her fire rate is so slow other heroes like Cass or Kiriko can get MULTIPLE shots in at her before she can get her next one in.
3 Her Design
Illari has some conflicting elements to her design, meaning you can rarely make use of her entire kit. She has a hitscan gun with a low fire rate, which was great against squishies in a duel but weaker against higher hp heroes. Her right click is a relatively close ranged heal weapon, which limits her positioning greatly if she wants to use it. Outburst is fine. Healing Pylon is her only form of self-healing, but is far more valuable on an off angle than in the main fight.
I’m nervous the devs are just gonna mess her up in some way. Either they are gonna buff her damage to like 80/120 which is in the awkward state of being a number buff that won’t change how she feels coz it doesn’t impact most break points, or her fire rate which just makes her better at shooting tanks.
Would Illari be absolutely busted at 85 bodyshot, 127.5 headshot giving her back 2 headshot lethality, and undoing the pylon buffs? I literally don’t know if the character can really function well without it.
Give her ult multiple shots but reduce the blast radius. If you could shoot 3-4 small explosions it would be easier to work around DM and cleanses.
I think that they shouldn't buff her beam hp/s because it would go against the philosophy of the S9 changes of nerfing damage and healing creep, i think they should make the beam a bit longer and give it more uptime increasing the max duration from 3 to 4 or 5 s, her primary fire could use a bit more damage but not to the point that she can 2 shot a tracer without headshot, on a side not i really think that the uniqueness of her sword/gun weapon could be used beter, maybe she could have a passive that changes her quick melee into a sword swing similar to a genji slash in size but with the damage of a normal melee
Illari has been really hard to play for me. Idk if my pylon spots are just bad but she’s been really really tricky to play
Pylon is still strong, finding good spots for it is the balance.
I would like them to change the way she heals. For example, the range of the beam is longer, but it heals more up close and a less from far away.
Playing illari is a pain in the ass because of all the things that counter it
baptiste used lamp? check
kiriko suzu? check
moira fade? check
dba matrix? check
genji deflect? check
lucio beat? check
soldier ult? check
transcendence? check
by the time u clear their abilities their shit already off cooldown too bc of the slow ass fire rate
lifeweaver pull and tree, mei cryo and wall, tracer recall, zarya bubble, sigma and orisa can eat, sombra tp, reaper fade and probably more that i cant think of😭
i love illari. i already have almost 30 hours of her in QP and several hours in comp as her since her release. her golden gun was the first i bought that season because she was SO fun to play. and now nerf after nerf it feels so impossible to play her and have fun. i just honest to god don’t play support anymore unless i’m tired of thinking and instalock moira because playing illari bums me out so much this patch. i’m a flex player anyway (w emphasis on DPS) so it doesn’t matter terribly much but i just miss playing illari when she was fun, man
People get out of their way to destroy the pylon and it's easy to destroy, leaving her with a long cooldown. Devs should at least increase the tick rate of the healing pylon, reduce the CD timer of the pylon, give heal bar energy when she hits an enemy/heals allies with pylon and/or make the lenght of the beam longer
Idk i went through the ranks and hit gm4 with her with a duo. We went from diamond to gm in 14 games we just prioritized damaging over healing and we kept up with top players. She's not all too bad if you know where to position her pylon.
I really like playing Illari with reinhart against poke comps, its super fun!
I really enjoy playing her, i think is way better to leave the pylon in a good position and go to dmg than to heal the team
they either need to make her pylon indestructible unless she is dead , or else give her beam infinite range and or infinite charge
if she could actually split her focus or put out more serious close range healing it would be different . her beam just feels bad to use because you are punished HARSHLY for it
in lower ranks illari is good pick for defense, similar to torb, but other stuff she feels with really not much impact on the game in s9
My problem with her is that her pylon gets destroyed to easily they need to give us the old pylon back
Love playing illari, she still feels weak in this new meta, she genuinely struggles to keep the pace in damage even with some self sustain with pylon, they really buffed the wrong elements of her kit
How does juggling enemy cooldowns before a Captive Sun compare to doing the same for, say, a Dragonblade or some of the other DPS ults?
Until they change the healing beam she is gonna be near impossible to make work outside of just killing the entire enemy team yourself. The healing beam was not great even before S9 but after it just isn’t enough to even keep a tank out of critical let alone heal them up. & it runs out so quickly. Everyone knows to shoot pylon even at low low ranks so it’s basically down all the time anyway so the only thing I can even think of is to remove the pylon completely & buff her heal beam massively. But that seems a shame to do.
Literally the only way to make her playable is buff pylon health, buff pylon fire rate or heal per burst, increase her damage falloff to 40m, and increase her heal beam to 20m. Even then idk if she'd be playable, and I honestly have zero clue what to do about her ult. Like another comment pointed out, she's a poke character with a pylon (map dependant) and a mid range heal. She's inherently flawed in design. The only way to really make her good again is to rework her range, or give her cracked numbers like she used to have.
I want to enjoy her but its so difficult to compete her HPS to other healers.
make her heal beam longer, slightly increase the resource bar, and make her able to crit her teammates with the heal to add a new layer of skill to her.
She could use more range on her healing beam.
i keep trying to force her and its kind of insane how bad she feels compared to last season (although that wasnt much better either), its almost unenjoyable.
why not just make her healing beam also a ranged hitscan like her damage? strengthens the flanker playstyle but gives ability to keep up your team plying mid.
The only ideas I have are.. Let Illari it go through shields, but have them show it down an amount. Or, give it a secondary effect of attaching to teammates in range and after they take enough damage it burst heals them.
If they increased the range of her healing and her primary fire, she would be viable I think
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I’m sick of them over buffing new characters and then having to nerf them into the ground.
It'd be interesting if they added like a "blinding" effect to her ultimate. Like you're sunstruck so your screen goes a little white so whoever is hit is kind of hindered too. I'm not sure how that would make her ultimate more valuable but it would be interesting to see, or not see lol
or if people couldn't see for a second it would be harder to eat/block/deflect/etc
@@nathanielcollier yeah that would be better actually! Like while she’s ulting is when the blinding effect is in place instead after
Yeah, except in a movement based shooter, having any sort of blindness would be horrible to play against, even if it is minor version of a flashbang. Additionally brings several problems such as if its too weak, it has no value, and if the flash is too strong, everybody would dislike it. I’d say hindering people’s ability to even see their screen would not be the best idea.
@@juridiscious5517 that’s fair but I feel like it can still work if done correctly. I mean Cassidy’s hinder locks all movement abilities and even inside Mauga’s ultimate you can’t move around inside of it because it locks them too. So I feel like a 2-3 second blindness wouldn’t be that bad. There’s a lot of strategy involved in this game and I’m sure people can adapt to a hinder like that, as I said if done correctly.
They don’t like CC, neither does other people. They are trying to move away from CC.
The thing is, they even have her in mind to begin with? who knows
with both Illari and Lifeweaver they just went way too heavy on the downsides/weaknesses. Short range on heals, turret is easily killed with long cd, ult can be countered by 15 different short CD abilities, not that much mobility or any other utility. And Life weaver has no offensive utility and his def utility is on long CDs and situational/reactive. They are really struggling to design supports that can be viable and keep up with what dps can do now since the huge buffs and the reduction in the value of healing in general. Their abilities are so situational and easily countered and they don't have anything that strong to compensate.
Sunstruck should give HP to anyone who hits these targets. And buff that pillar HP dood...
I wish they buffed her minimum damage so shooting it automatically would be more effective since I find it a lot of fun.
Ml7 is unda da wotha today
I wish my favorite hero (lifeweaver) could be meta for at least one day.
But wouldn't be Kiriko because blizzard would buff or fix anything related to her in a blink 🙄
I think her ult should go through everything except shields.
I think illari works well when holding off angles with another dps like junk or soldier. I also use her ult the same way I use her primary fire (cleaning up a fight or capitalizing on a mispositioned supp or dps). Depending on the map and game mode you could also use her pylon for the team while holding an angle with a dps, makes her a nice passive healer while allowing an aggressive support play-style. Still, definitely one of the supports ever.
where are you the low quality mic is sending me
I gave her another chance and she just struggles at any range there’s better alternatives, im sitting out this season don’t really wanna play the forced “meta” this time around
Blizzard: globally nerfs healing.
Also Blizzard: buffs illaris heal botting ☹️
The power fantasy of Ilari was that you could play dos and not get flamed for not supporting lol. No idea what these buffs are, she needs a faster charge rate. It takes a year to charge between shots.
She needs some serious buffs to be viable.
Low dps
Low healing
Mediocre mobility
Ult easy to counter
No utility
She might be bad but she’s stilll a lot of fun
I just think back to when she came out and players cried for her to be nerfed. Now she’s been essentially useless since she was allowed in rank play.
i think she just needs a bunker meta.
bad enough she lacks utility just like LW tho it feels like she just does nothing sure she can still do some damage but thats it and if u want supps that do damage but provide more theres like 3 other better picks
Where is ml7 in this vid?
Its actually quite simple, just hit more headshots
Who else read the thumbnail as “Fillaritier”?
She need her ult like casidy a hindered effect so it's harder to evade or cancel ilari ult
I think it’d be cool if her ult, instead of dealing a lot of damage, does a small dps and slows enemies a little bit if they are in her LOS as she’s flying (like a floating sun), that way she’s providing utility instead of being a straight up dps cause… yknow… she’s a support
So ramatras field? Would be a lousy ult that he has as an ability.
10. illiari
9. lw
8. ana
7. mercy
6. kiri
5.bap
4. moira
3. brig
1/2 (interchangeable) lucio and zen
(map dependent)
Yeah, she needs more improvement. She doesn’t add any status or anything that makes her a better pick, her heals too limited and her damage and fall off needs buffing
Illari right now is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay waaaaaaaaaaay too weak compared to a healbot kiri for example
Who is Szymanski?
Honestly I think they need to revert her whole Kit except the ult they need to remove the damage fall off again and lower it back to 120 but to go on a tangent I mainly use her ult to confirm kills
i just wish blizzard would quit dancing around the actual issues of their heroes
Illaris design is awful
That first game wasn't a good example, as Hog was the problem, not Illari.
She's nerfed too much. Revert most of the changes before Season 9 for her and she's a lot better.
Why is ml7 mic bad
She didnt get her damage compensated for the new health pools. She cant even 2 headshot a 250 hp target. Her 105 healing per second feels awful against the dps passive. They have a lot to think about when making her viable again in the new sandbox. Zen is just 10x better than illari right now
THEY LITERALLY NERFED HER THREE TIMES AFTER RELEASE IN THE FIRST MONTH AND A HALF!.. I HATE BLIZZARD!
This patch is only good for dps. Sure you can play like 3 supports and 3 tanks, but for the most part this was a downgrade for all other support and tank characters. I’m actually bored of the game for once. The patch may have cured my addiction.
i love how ml7 still tries to get supports buffed despite the fact he knows its ongly gonna get worse for supports 😔
Illiari is the worst designed character in the game. I truly think she needs a rework. What even is she supposed to do and how do her abilities inform that. I think her design is a poke character. How does she work in a poke fight?
Well she has a turret to sustain her team while she focuses on damage. Oh wait you can’t focus on damage cause the turret broke. Now you have to rely on the worst healing in the game, Illari’s secondary fire.
Well she has a beam that has the one of the fastest healing per second in the game so she can go back to dealing damage. Oh wait you can only heal 315 hp in a single use before it has to recharge. That is useless for keeping a tank alive. If a damage is attacking, than it is useless even for squishes.
There is no synergy anywhere to be found with Illaris’s design. I think they gave her a turret to heal the team while she does damage, but it is so easy to break it. Unlike junkrat trap it is very easy to see where it is because of the bright yellow light it makes. Unlike torb turret it is very safe to break. Not only is it easy to break, but it is not even worth giving it to your team because you need to off angle. Why do you need to off angle? Well her dps is worse than mercy(look it up), so she can’t shield break or put that much tank pressure. So you off angle and some one pressures you, what are you gonna do? Well your dps sucks, and your gun is terrible in the close range. Maybe run away? Oh wait your movement ability is terrible and you die. I think the by comparing her to other supports you can see why she is f tier.
Compare illari to zenyatta, zen can actually set and forget his orb. Orb can be applied 40 meters away, it is not blocked by shields or matrix, can last 5 seconds after losing line of sight, and has no cooldown. You can not set and forget pylon. It needs to be placed in a strategic spot, you need to break it yourself before the enemy does because it has a cooldown, and it can be easily broken. all that and it only has a 7 healing per second difference from orb. Zenyatta also is threatening even in close range thanks to his high dps, secondary fire, discord, and kick.
There is no situation where Illari is good. In what situation is illari the best pick. She has no utility. Most supports with movement have a second life, but illari’s movement can’t do that either.
I don’t think changing numbers can fix illari. She needs a drastic change.
For me I think illari is one of if not the most fun support in the game its a shame that she was nerfed so badly but the pilon and ult changes are still nice I think they need to decrease the charge time of her weapon then she will be much better
I also agree with the fact that her ult is too situational and can be blocked by too many things some games I never get the chance to use my ult cause I need to wait for kiri suzu or demech dva so she can't eat it or avoid shields it just feels awkward but when I pull the ult off it feels great.
I'm sorry but what in the hell is going on at the bottom right of your screen?
why illari is worse than lifeweaver??
Illari is my 2nd best healer after Mercy. She is very situational if you are not actually skilled at the game but if you are and try to focus on HEALING and not trying to get play of the game she's awesome.
I’ve barely used her I went on comp I’m a platinum support and 3rd game with her got potg and I’m averaging around 10k heals and 19 kills per game idk what he’s complaining about she’s a good support
Her ult is good, its hard to land but thats the point, try playing tank or dps then youll see wht unimpactfull ult looks like
It’s harder to get value out of but yes it can be very good