I want an Apple Silicon version of this machine SO BADLY. I have a 2016 16gb version of this machine and I love it. With better performance, I'd buy instantly. Great video, thanks!
This model still works perfectly fine for all office tasks and even iMovie. It’s incredible to type on as well. The clicky keyboard is just special. Apps open slowly but once they’re open they’re super fast, no real life difference between this and a new MacBook.
Well there would be in editing multiple timelines in Final Cut, doing any gaming and using the graphics card to a high modern standard! But yes, they’re very nice still
my favorite Mac book... i never needed an iPad because of this. Able to bring it anywhere and walk all over the house with it... obviously its not for video creation or hardcore image editting...
The solution to data recovery problems with soldered storage is to not need data recovery in the first place. External SSDs, iCloud, onedrive/office 365, google drive, Dropbox and time machine backups to a NAS are all cheap alternatives to needing to do any sort of data recovery. Keep regular backups people, please.
i would be all over an apple silicon 12 inch macbook that was fanless and at least on par with M1 performance. gotta make do with typing this on the glass of my ipad mini 6
Great video, and love your channel. Keep it up! PS; I love the 12 inch MacBook, its so compact and portable, if they could bring it back even more compact with an even more borderless display and perchance use a smaller and more dumbed down m3 chip, that would be amazing. And of course, no butterfly keyboard!
That won't happen because of the problematic keyboard. Maybe a slightly thicker model with a more conventional keyboard .....but somehow, I think, that is not the route Apple is going. My best guess is 13" will stay the smallest, but of course, I also don't know.
I am skeptical that Apple would bring it back but I would love it. It's feasible, my 13" Thinkpad Nano weighs just as much as my 2017 Retina MacBook (the one in the video) and it has a decent keyboard. But there are no rumors of this MacBook making a comeback so I am keeping mine for a few more years.
I so wish they would bring out a new 12". I love mine but it is dying. Battery no longer lasts long and it is really struggling these days. I need a new one but I don't want a bigger one.
Watching this on my 2009 17" Macbook with 8GB RAM, 2TB SSD & running Monterey which i find is quite responsive and capable. I feel this 12" Macbook series is best for people travelling that don't want a heavy laptop in their luggage taking up space, it should be treated like an iPad with a keyboard considering it has about the same amount of ports as one
Hey man, very nice video. I am in a situation where i need a laptop and i found a 2015 12” for 400€. I know it seems much but in my country every apple product is 200€ more than elsewhere. Anyway i saw that you can install win 10 on these older macs and that it works better than macos. So what do you think, should i do something similar with this one? I would be using it for yt, emails, office etc.
I love my 2017 12inch macbook! I have the i5 8gb varient. Yes it thermal throttles but the form factor is amazing! Would easily buy again with an m series chip.
I have the 2016 model, purchased reconditioned in December of 2016, which I have recently upgraded with a 16G RAM and 512GB SSD, year 2017 motherboard (they are 100% compatible). I have also replaced the original battery. The keyboard and screen are in perfect condition. It is currently running macOS Ventura. It's one of the best computer I have ever owned, and I have owned many since the eighties. It should not be viewed as a main computer. It's a secondary computer, and in this role I find it vastly superior to an iPad. Because it's so portable, over the years it has followed me everywhere, and I have clocked an impressive number of hours working in Xcode on it. Today, developing an iOS app on it has become difficult, because Xcode and the iOS Simulator have become too slow for this machine, but I can still use it for this purpose when I'm not at my desk, and for many other tasks: writing texts, watching videos, composing music with LMMS, developing console apps in C... It has all the versatility of a macOS machine with unmatched portability. I would purchase an Apple Silicon version of this Mac without any hesitation.
@@mdarianalhasan9785 I don't know. Xcode is running fine, but launching the iOS simulator is slow. I think it will really depend on how heavy your project is. For console apps in C, I don't even use Xcode, I use Geany and makefiles.
I've got the lowest spec, base model 2015 edition of this classic machine and never had a problem with it. Dodged every bullet that the technorati say it 'should' have. Keyboard is still fine after 9 years. I've got it running Sonoma on OCLP and it can handle Xcode and an iPhone simulator (it's not exactly happy about it, but it does it!). I replaced the battery a few months ago and was amazed to discover the tiny size of the logic board. I'd somehow not known it was about the size of 1 and a half credit cards. Wow. Surely Apple can revive this form factor in the M-era?
They should bring this back as the entry laptop with detuned M1/M2. Just like Air represents mid tier and Pro being the highest, they should also make base MacBook as smallest and entry level.
just picked up the 2017 12" Macbook. 16GB RAM and 512SSD Running baremetal Linux on it flawlessly. Keyboard keys are mint. The whole thing is maybe 9.5-10 condition wise. $175. The Gold one
@@makaveli559m I have that one too (I have 2), it's actually in the video too, it's the one you see when it shows the weight, it's slightly lighter than the i7
I ended up buying a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch for £180...I was due to get an M1 air but this came up and I thought why not...I had watched your MBP 2015 video, and sadly this has the 2.2Ghz, but 16GB of RAM and 256GB SSD isn't too bad, I can upgrade the SSD too of course. Have I messed up? :D
For £180 you made the right choice going Intel I think. You can always upgrade to M1 in years to come. Unless you use the graphics for gaming or other 3D stuff you genuinely won’t need it. I think you’re fine!
@@montaguebarnabasltd I’m hoping the Iris will tide me over for some basic games if I’m at a loose end away from my main PC in the interim between this and an M1. Hell I might even make a video testing games on it
I think the 2017 15” doesn’t have particularly great performance versus older machines like the 2015 which have more ports and upgrade / self repair potential. It’s undeniably a brilliant looking machine though
I want an Apple Silicon version of this machine SO BADLY. I have a 2016 16gb version of this machine and I love it. With better performance, I'd buy instantly. Great video, thanks!
Closest you can get in the same style is the M1 MacBook Air. It’s bigger, but still very slim and compact!
Watching this on my 2009 white plastic Macbook fitted with a whopping 6GB of RAM, a 1TB SATA SSD and running macOS Sonoma.
Hell of an upgrade! Nice machine.
It's the soft close lid I like most!
I still have mine as well! I love it, I use it as a server right now but I’m thinking about giving it to my son
@@LexAngel soft close lid?
This 12inch Retina was likely the catalyst for the introduction of M chip machines.
So where's my M chip 12"? C'mon Apple you know we want it.
This is my travel device. For $150 with 85% battery health. It’s great for light tasks! ♥️ 💜
This model still works perfectly fine for all office tasks and even iMovie. It’s incredible to type on as well. The clicky keyboard is just special. Apps open slowly but once they’re open they’re super fast, no real life difference between this and a new MacBook.
Well there would be in editing multiple timelines in Final Cut, doing any gaming and using the graphics card to a high modern standard!
But yes, they’re very nice still
Fun fact the laptop emoji on every iPhone since 2015 is the 12in MacBook 💻
This is what I want to replace my 2015 11” MacBook Air, but with a M3 chip in it. Update the screen, and the keyboard. Beautiful.
I would love to see that happen
Me too. I have a newer M2 but I still love my 2014 11” for the portability.
Your 10k subscriber special should just be an hour live stream of you saying Aluminum
Lmaooo someone pointed out I say ‘soldered’ wrong, recently, and I notice it every time I watch myself now :/
@@montaguebarnabasltd
Naaaah it’s just you. Ain’t nothin wrong with that
A 12 inch Silicon MacBook, A iPhone 15 Mini, A Silicon iPad mini, that is all I need.
my favorite Mac book... i never needed an iPad because of this. Able to bring it anywhere and walk all over the house with it... obviously its not for video creation or hardcore image editting...
I love this Macbook so much
Anxious waiting for the next video
The solution to data recovery problems with soldered storage is to not need data recovery in the first place. External SSDs, iCloud, onedrive/office 365, google drive, Dropbox and time machine backups to a NAS are all cheap alternatives to needing to do any sort of data recovery. Keep regular backups people, please.
Yeah that’s a very fair point. I guess for those less technologically inclined it’s harder to keep doing those things, though.
For this particular model, time machine to a local network drive such as Time Capsule or a HDD to Apple Airport Extreme is more practical.
i would be all over an apple silicon 12 inch macbook that was fanless and at least on par with M1 performance. gotta make do with typing this on the glass of my ipad mini 6
Great video, and love your channel. Keep it up! PS; I love the 12 inch MacBook, its so compact and portable, if they could bring it back even more compact with an even more borderless display and perchance use a smaller and more dumbed down m3 chip, that would be amazing. And of course, no butterfly keyboard!
Thank you for watching!
I think the iPad is the main competitor of ultralight MacBooks these days. I’d like to see one make a comeback though…
@@montaguebarnabasltd Your welcome! An iPad with MacOS is just not the same in my opinion.
That won't happen because of the problematic keyboard. Maybe a slightly thicker model with a more conventional keyboard .....but somehow, I think, that is not the route Apple is going. My best guess is 13" will stay the smallest, but of course, I also don't know.
I am skeptical that Apple would bring it back but I would love it. It's feasible, my 13" Thinkpad Nano weighs just as much as my 2017 Retina MacBook (the one in the video) and it has a decent keyboard. But there are no rumors of this MacBook making a comeback so I am keeping mine for a few more years.
There have been rumors of an “MacBook SE” being in the work; the description given sounds very similar to what you describe 😂
I so wish they would bring out a new 12". I love mine but it is dying. Battery no longer lasts long and it is really struggling these days. I need a new one but I don't want a bigger one.
Probably go and get a iPad Air and Magic Keyboard. Similar size and will provide a similar level of experience
Watching this on my 2009 17" Macbook with 8GB RAM, 2TB SSD & running Monterey which i find is quite responsive and capable. I feel this 12" Macbook series is best for people travelling that don't want a heavy laptop in their luggage taking up space, it should be treated like an iPad with a keyboard considering it has about the same amount of ports as one
If they released another 12” today it would be in direct competition with iPads, yep.
Nice machine! Always wanted a 17”.
Can't wait to get the upgrade one of 12inch macbook for my wife !
Hey man, very nice video. I am in a situation where i need a laptop and i found a 2015 12” for 400€. I know it seems much but in my country every apple product is 200€ more than elsewhere. Anyway i saw that you can install win 10 on these older macs and that it works better than macos. So what do you think, should i do something similar with this one? I would be using it for yt, emails, office etc.
I love my 2017 12inch macbook! I have the i5 8gb varient. Yes it thermal throttles but the form factor is amazing! Would easily buy again with an m series chip.
Can you run VScode properly on this machine?
@@mdarianalhasan9785yes! I use vs code all the time. It works well
@@mdarianalhasan9785 yep
I have the 2016 model, purchased reconditioned in December of 2016, which I have recently upgraded with a 16G RAM and 512GB SSD, year 2017 motherboard (they are 100% compatible). I have also replaced the original battery. The keyboard and screen are in perfect condition. It is currently running macOS Ventura. It's one of the best computer I have ever owned, and I have owned many since the eighties. It should not be viewed as a main computer. It's a secondary computer, and in this role I find it vastly superior to an iPad. Because it's so portable, over the years it has followed me everywhere, and I have clocked an impressive number of hours working in Xcode on it. Today, developing an iOS app on it has become difficult, because Xcode and the iOS Simulator have become too slow for this machine, but I can still use it for this purpose when I'm not at my desk, and for many other tasks: writing texts, watching videos, composing music with LMMS, developing console apps in C... It has all the versatility of a macOS machine with unmatched portability. I would purchase an Apple Silicon version of this Mac without any hesitation.
can i run VScode smoothly on this machine? i'm willing to buy 2016 8gb,512gb variant
@@mdarianalhasan9785 I don't know. Xcode is running fine, but launching the iOS simulator is slow. I think it will really depend on how heavy your project is. For console apps in C, I don't even use Xcode, I use Geany and makefiles.
I've got the lowest spec, base model 2015 edition of this classic machine and never had a problem with it. Dodged every bullet that the technorati say it 'should' have. Keyboard is still fine after 9 years. I've got it running Sonoma on OCLP and it can handle Xcode and an iPhone simulator (it's not exactly happy about it, but it does it!).
I replaced the battery a few months ago and was amazed to discover the tiny size of the logic board. I'd somehow not known it was about the size of 1 and a half credit cards. Wow. Surely Apple can revive this form factor in the M-era?
Technorati 😭
Watching this in my Macbook 2017 core m3, 8GB RAM 256GB SSD.
ive the base 2017 model - great for on the go.
They should bring this back as the entry laptop with detuned M1/M2. Just like Air represents mid tier and Pro being the highest, they should also make base MacBook as smallest and entry level.
just picked up the 2017 12" Macbook. 16GB RAM and 512SSD Running baremetal Linux on it flawlessly. Keyboard keys are mint. The whole thing is maybe 9.5-10 condition wise. $175. The Gold one
175?! Dammit
I had one. Had keyboard repsoredtwice by Apple. Eventually sold it on - missed it as loved the small form factor.
Cool video dude. I like the form factor but today this is nothing more than a web browser and office suite
Thanks for watching!
Yeah you’re more or less right really…
nothing wrong with that! the tradeoff is that it's light. that 16:10 aspect ratio is great to browse and suite with.
Thinking of getting a 2015 MacBook Air
I loved it.
Watching this on my 2017 MacBook 12.
Same. Actually, the one in the video is my 2017 MacBook 12 so it felt really strage to watch it from the same Mac....😅
Mine is the 1.5Ghz i5 8GB version :) I had a 2015 version, this one is way faster than one.@@_Digitalguy
@@_Digitalguy I have the 1.3Ghz i5 with 8GB of RAM :)
@@makaveli559m I have that one too (I have 2), it's actually in the video too, it's the one you see when it shows the weight, it's slightly lighter than the i7
My old macbook made it to High Sierra.
is it worth to buy this macbook ?
Get the m1 mb air. best value for money apple ever offered
Got one in January - I’m inclined to agree.
Yet this one is a collector piece. Last major work of John Ive at Apple.
I ended up buying a 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch for £180...I was due to get an M1 air but this came up and I thought why not...I had watched your MBP 2015 video, and sadly this has the 2.2Ghz, but 16GB of RAM and 256GB SSD isn't too bad, I can upgrade the SSD too of course.
Have I messed up? :D
For £180 you made the right choice going Intel I think. You can always upgrade to M1 in years to come. Unless you use the graphics for gaming or other 3D stuff you genuinely won’t need it. I think you’re fine!
@@montaguebarnabasltd I’m hoping the Iris will tide me over for some basic games if I’m at a loose end away from my main PC in the interim between this and an M1.
Hell I might even make a video testing games on it
@@infinitemsi do it! People love the older mac content tbh
hey man, i really like your videos
i was wondering if you need a thumbnail designer
too improve your click through rate
would love to work with you
You already emailed me bruvva
my bad@@montaguebarnabasltd
The actual max spec's was the 12 inch MacBook with the core i7 at 3.6gz, 512GB storage, with 16gb of ram
Yes, that’s the one in the vid…
@@montaguebarnabasltd Sorry, my apologies, I confused the turbo speed with the normal speed 🥴
One usb c port? Small logic board? No fan? That’s not a laptop that’s a phone!
Thoughts on the 15 inch MacBook Pro mid 2017 ?
I think the 2017 15” doesn’t have particularly great performance versus older machines like the 2015 which have more ports and upgrade / self repair potential. It’s undeniably a brilliant looking machine though
But still at used market this thing is costly than M1 mac mini 😮
Maybe the max spec one. But yeah the Mac mini is an undeniably superb deal.
The fact that Apple STILL sells 512GB of storage and 16GB of RAM as exuberantly expensive upgrades is just ridiculous.
How well does it run Linux?
From what I’ve seen, pretty well. Apple macs generally do well in that respect
@@montaguebarnabasltd I may run a lightweight distro instead of macOS then, it may take care of that kind of delicate hardware 😆
How'd you go? What distro did you install? @@JoaquinVacas
Please if this MacBook 12 2015 air has an hard disk issue can it be fixed
Unfortunately not. Not replaceable
like if they brought this back with the apple m1 chip right now and sold it for like $699/799 so many ppl would buy it
@@shaneomac8289 would be selling themselves short but I agree
“Like the fans in this laptop it won’t blow you away” 😂😂
Apple still sells a machine like this but is called ipad
can I use this with its original operation system that it came with , will it work surfing the web
Not fully, no. Some pages won’t work.