Cheers was never the same once Shelley Long left. The cast was great, and I enjoyed all 11 seasons of the show. Having said that, the Diane Chambers years were the best.
Cheers was by far the funniest, most intelligently written sitcom ever on the air! I watched the entire run of the show. When it went to DVD, though, I bought only the first five years of the series --- the Shelley Long years --- because those were definitely the best episodes. Several years ago, a poll was taken among Cheers fans about which episodes they favored --- the Shelley Long episodes or the Kirstie Alley episodes. As I recall, it wasn't even close. It was something like 20 percent to 80 percent in favor of the Shelley Long episodes.
Over manipulated: An attempt to force an unnatural plot or conclusion. It's a step or two before "Jumping the shark". Once you leave the natural developments of plot an characters it pretty much steers you to Jumping the shark. Cheers avoided that with some very hard work and the ingenious development of Kirstie's character. Rebecca hit a home run by making her sophisticated on the outside but a total train wreck emotionally. The writers essentially had twice the amount of character to work with and Kirstie played right into the part. That said, I enjoyed Diane's character more because Shelley delivered her lines perfectly. She was a comedic timing princess.
In my opinion Shelley Long leaving “Cheers” was exactly what the show needed. The Sam and Diane storyline was played out. Her leaving allowed the show to go in fresh directions. There was more focus on storylines for the other characters. Kirstie Alley’s role as Rebecca Howe developed into very funny and interesting character. I believe that if Shelley Long had stayed with the show it wouldn’t have lasted much longer let alone another six years.
Apparently, Long was looking to transition to become a movie star, and she thought that her widespread popularity in the TV landscape was enough to propel her onto the big screen. It's worth noting that at that point, this wasn't an exactly new practice: both Michael Douglas and Tom Hanks left their budding career in television to try their hand with films: a massive gamble which obviously paid off. Immediately, it seemed to be a great career move for the actress. Fresh from her exit in "Cheers", Long already had a hit in 1987 in "Outrageous Fortune", but it wasn't exactly a smooth ride from there, as her movie career never really took off the way Douglas's and Hanks's did. Aside from her aspirations to be a movie star, Long's decision to leave Cheers was bolstered by having constant conflicts behind-the-scenes with her co-stars, particularly Danson and Kelsey Grammer, who played Frasier Crane. It's an open secret in Hollywood that, just like her character, Diane, the actress didn't really fit with Cheers' ensemble cast, which famously got along quite well. After abruptly being offered the opportunity to finish her novels in the season 5 finale titled "I Do, Adieu," she chose to pursue her dreams of becoming a published author and only postponing her supposed wedding to Sam. While she promised that she'd be back, both Sam and the viewers knew that she wouldn't. As for the show itself, her departure didn't affect its popularity at all, with some arguing that its best years were after Diane left.
She left for a 6 movie disney deal but when the money pit failed and bevlery Hills troops also flopped disney cut her contract. Remember cheers flopped in season 1 it was bottom of the TV charts it wasn't till midway through season 2 it became popular
"Remember cheers flopped in season 1 it was bottom of the TV charts it wasn't till midway through season 2 it became popular" No, it became popular immediately after season 1 when they were showing reruns over the summer. All the people who had watched the first-run episodes of Simon & Simon instead of Cheers looked for something different to watch when Simon & Simon went into reruns, and they found the Cheers reruns that they hadn't watched the first time around (there were only 3 TV networks at the time, so it wasn't hard to find Cheers). Plus, Cheers was nominated for 13 Emmy awards (winning 5) for its first season, and that brought it attention too.
Oh and Kirstie Alley was NOT a consolation prize- she was a better actress and had a more successful career. None of those movies you mentioned were major hits in the US
The dialogue during the Shelley Long years was clever and sharp. She was the anchor of the show. After that Sam turned into a sexpot. I grew disinterested in the show
Cheers was never the same once Shelley Long left. The cast was great, and I enjoyed all 11 seasons of the show. Having said that, the Diane Chambers years were the best.
Cheers was by far the funniest, most intelligently written sitcom ever on the air! I watched the entire run of the show. When it went to DVD, though, I bought only the first five years of the series --- the Shelley Long years --- because those were definitely the best episodes.
Several years ago, a poll was taken among Cheers fans about which episodes they favored --- the Shelley Long episodes or the Kirstie Alley episodes. As I recall, it wasn't even close. It was something like 20 percent to 80 percent in favor of the Shelley Long episodes.
When you keep calling Cheers a movie when it was a TV show you lose a lot of credibility in your research.
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Over manipulated: An attempt to force an unnatural plot or conclusion. It's a step or two before "Jumping the shark". Once you leave the natural developments of plot an characters it pretty much steers you to Jumping the shark. Cheers avoided that with some very hard work and the ingenious development of Kirstie's character. Rebecca hit a home run by making her sophisticated on the outside but a total train wreck emotionally. The writers essentially had twice the amount of character to work with and Kirstie played right into the part. That said, I enjoyed Diane's character more because Shelley delivered her lines perfectly. She was a comedic timing princess.
7:08 What "Movie" is being referenced here ,"Was the movie ever the same after it's star left?"
In my opinion Shelley Long leaving “Cheers” was exactly what the show needed. The Sam and Diane storyline was played out. Her leaving allowed the show to go in fresh directions. There was more focus on storylines for the other characters. Kirstie Alley’s role as Rebecca Howe developed into very funny and interesting character. I believe that if Shelley Long had stayed with the show it wouldn’t have lasted much longer let alone another six years.
It's called a contract . She signed on to do five seasons. Jaclyn Smith did the same thing when she did Charlie's Angels.
Cheers was a TELEVISION SHOW... NOT A "MOVIE"!!
She probably left because she was verbally abused by Carla every day...
The #1 worst career decision in Hollywood history. Close runner up- David Caruso NYPD Blue. She wanted to be a movie star so bad -
Apparently, Long was looking to transition to become a movie star, and she thought that her widespread popularity in the TV landscape was enough to propel her onto the big screen. It's worth noting that at that point, this wasn't an exactly new practice: both Michael Douglas and Tom Hanks left their budding career in television to try their hand with films: a massive gamble which obviously paid off.
Immediately, it seemed to be a great career move for the actress. Fresh from her exit in "Cheers", Long already had a hit in 1987 in "Outrageous Fortune", but it wasn't exactly a smooth ride from there, as her movie career never really took off the way Douglas's and Hanks's did. Aside from her aspirations to be a movie star, Long's decision to leave Cheers was bolstered by having constant conflicts behind-the-scenes with her co-stars, particularly Danson and Kelsey Grammer, who played Frasier Crane.
It's an open secret in Hollywood that, just like her character, Diane, the actress didn't really fit with Cheers' ensemble cast, which famously got along quite well. After abruptly being offered the opportunity to finish her novels in the season 5 finale titled "I Do, Adieu," she chose to pursue her dreams of becoming a published author and only postponing her supposed wedding to Sam.
While she promised that she'd be back, both Sam and the viewers knew that she wouldn't. As for the show itself, her departure didn't affect its popularity at all, with some arguing that its best years were after Diane left.
They were good together
She left for a 6 movie disney deal but when the money pit failed and bevlery Hills troops also flopped disney cut her contract. Remember cheers flopped in season 1 it was bottom of the TV charts it wasn't till midway through season 2 it became popular
The money Pitt was a classic, lol
"Remember cheers flopped in season 1 it was bottom of the TV charts it wasn't till midway through season 2 it became popular"
No, it became popular immediately after season 1 when they were showing reruns over the summer. All the people who had watched the first-run episodes of Simon & Simon instead of Cheers looked for something different to watch when Simon & Simon went into reruns, and they found the Cheers reruns that they hadn't watched the first time around (there were only 3 TV networks at the time, so it wasn't hard to find Cheers). Plus, Cheers was nominated for 13 Emmy awards (winning 5) for its first season, and that brought it attention too.
Diane was a funny character but Sam, Carla, Norm and Cliff were excellent as well.
Don't forget coach 💪 or frasier great characters all over ❤
@@John-tz2pkdon't forget about Rebecca Howe I mean I'm not forgetting about her
And of course Woody
Oh and Kirstie Alley was NOT a consolation prize- she was a better actress and had a more successful career. None of those movies you mentioned were major hits in the US
EXCELLENT actress
Music is a misfit for subject, it’s annoying and distracting
The dialogue during the Shelley Long years was clever and sharp. She was the anchor of the show. After that Sam turned into a sexpot. I grew disinterested in the show
irreconciled differences was 1984, it didn't sell well
I think Sam and Diane should have been together.
The show would have 2 change. No one wants will they, won't they for too long. It was a good episode but it seemed like Sam forced her to leave.
Whoever made this didnt do their homework- sam didn't work there, he owned cheers, lol
And it's not A MOVIE
Glad she left Kirstie Ally was way funnier
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Movie role? 🤦♂️
This is an absolute terrible YT clip, absolute dirge for 3 mins then no revelations whatsoever. Get a grip of yourself ffs.
She was very annoying. 😕
Kristy was much better 2:52