Fun fact: When Walker gets killed by the Heavy Lugo, you don't get a loading screen. Walker wakes back up after seeing another vision of the mother holding her child and wakes up back at the last checkpoint, where the heavy doesn't look like Lugo anymore.
Actually 🤓 you can defeat the heavy lugo and move into the building and if you get killed as soon as you go in you will also see the horrors we have committed
Mission objective late game: • Get to lugo - Now! • Up the street - Move! • Take the gatehouse! • *Run god damn it!* Man, even the objective had turned hostile towards you.
Walker himself also becomes more unhinged as the game goes on. If you command Lugo or Adams to do something at the beginning he says, “Tango down” or “Neutralize these hostiles.” Towards the end of the story he screams, “KILL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS!”
As more and more time passes through the game, Walker loses his sanity, and his insistence that not only did Konrad do this, but that he should be killed lead to his eventual downfall. The 33rd, the innocent civilians caught up in this mess, and even his own squad are all victims of Captain Walker. If he stopped and realized what he was doing sooner rather then later, many deaths could've been prevented, yet on he marched, and for what?
I think the most powerful message I took back from this was that having good intentions does not guarantee good outcomes, and that the people who commit the worst atrocities are sometimes those with the purest intentions.
Thanos Thrylos What I took from the game was that remorse is a strong punishment, and if are presented with something(by yourself or others' manipulation) a certain way you do things that are the opposite of what you want to do.
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
@@Mark-fc7tu the reason the options were removed was because those choices were too easy to make. It damages the narrative the game was going for which is not stupid but really deep. The game needed that phosphorus scene to be able to tell its narrative.
@@ahsanumar01 don't bother with him. He wouldn't understand how the game is trying to portray that in life, sometimes your hands are bound to make a particularly bad choice. The 33rd could stop shooting at you once Lugo yeld we are not CIA, but they didn't. Plus, he is a troll. He has been copy pasting this comment.
Ahmed Ghulam I did that because Walker needs to live with his mistake (repeating Konrad's mistake) and perhaps one day he might find the power to accept it and forgive himself for forcing his men to follow a mirage with him and killing the main protagonist in the end of any game has always been pointless.
My friend....you are condemning Walker into a perpetual torment cause he were already dead since the beginning of the game....remember that helicopter crash? This is not your usual "hero" surviving all kind of shit warfare game...Your reliving the entrance of hell within yourself purgatory over and over again until you take the choice of seek at least a little amount of redemption in suicide.
Roblereck I know I’m more than late to be replying to this, but every time someone says that he died in beginning and think that Walker killing himself would let him escape doesn’t add up to me. It’s not specifically the possibility that he is in some type of purgatory or hell, but the idea that suicide would get him out of it somehow. Suicide itself was considered a specific reason people would go to purgatory after they died, you kill yourself you put your soul in purgatory, so why would that suddenly get Walker out of it? If Walker is suppose to realize and accept what he’s done then wouldn’t suicide be an explicit sign that he didn’t want to accept it or at the least couldn’t handle it?
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
The way Walker says "Goddamnit" in the last shootout, like a freaking psycho. Very nice detail by the developers at that point, he was really losing it.
+laura A It was over the course of two days. About a week if you count the epilogues. (Day 1) You first get to Dubai during daylight, then when you meet Riggs it's night. (Day 2) When you save Lugo at the mall it's daylight again, and by the time you reach the Burj Khalifa stand-in (Conrad's tower) it's night again. (Epilogues) When Walker is waiting for the rescue team he has a noticeable beard, so add a few more days.
"How many Americans have you killed today?", "You are still a good person", "This is all your fault", "Killing for yourself is murder, killing for your government is heroic, killing for entertainment is harmless" This game really does make your rethink everything! Feels AWESOME to platinum it and finish it on FUBAR!
“The U.S. Military does not condone the killing of unarmed civilians. But none of this is real, so why should you care?” If that didn’t make you feel like a monster the first time you saw that, you might be a tiny bit psychotic
sebool112 we were sent to recon the area for any survivors (Grey Fox) and if we find any, we request immediate evacuation and when they send in the cavalry, we can go home but too bad shit went south!!!!
This track perfectly captures the sad futility of Walker's descent into madness that forms the essence of Konrad's question, "But on you marched, and for what?"
To save lives? Revenge? Denial? No one can remember. Everyone's just trying to kill each other, and they don't even know why anymore. (I know it's a rhetorical question, but still.)
Walker forgot why he was even there in the first place from the very beginning "Thought we were rescuing people" Wrong. You were locating people, once the mission was completed you should´ve walked out of Dubai.
I think the best part about this whole game is Nolan North, as Walker's voice. You usually hear North in these kind of light hearted roles like the Prince from PoP 2008 or Nathan Drake. This was the first time we've seen him give voice to an actually ''evil'' character, and it's just amazing how he goes from the simple soldier to a raving lunatic throughout the story. How the ''Need some cover while I'm reloading'' changes to ''Fuck, I have to reload'', how the ''Tango down'' changes to ''Fuck you'' and ''Killed that son of a bitch''. Just from his voice alone the character progression is absolutely followable.
They also made him and everyone else record all of their voice lines in one day, and in order they appear in the game. By the end the characters all sound exhausted because the voice actors are.
For me, this song has a lot of tragedy to it. It's the last stand, everyone's about to kill each other, and for what? Survival? Honor? Duty? Entertainment? Nobody can remember anymore. Everyone just wanted to help, and instead, they found the pathway to Hell.
Its subtle, but you can hear this song several times in the background earlier in the game. Usually upon discovering the aftermath of of various travesties. Its only when you reach the bridge, when the full version plays, which nicely captures how fucked up everything is by this point.
OMGBEARS take us around the corner... I wanna see what this gun can do!!!! (1 minute later) AAAAAAHHHH... GOT THE FUCKERS!!!!! (30 seconds) Whoa wait this isn't right!!!! We've been here already!!!! F*** it... just get us outta here!!!! (40 seconds later) Then take us in... I guess we'll find out!!!! (To be continued vine plays)
@@CravenDrip You already know this. Walker literally says it in the intro. It's just pointed out to you at the end. You realize that you tried to be a hero, which was the wrong choice. You should've followed orders. Radioed in once you found the survivors, and went home. No. Instead, you marched on. And for what?
+Saint Kuro Home? We can't go home. There's a line (all men) like us have to cross. If we are lucky we do what is necessary and we die. No, all I really wanted , Captain, is peace.
"Tourism up an astounding 3000%, as a fresh wave of Americans make Dubai their vacation destination of choice! When asked what he thought of these fresh, new faces, a local Dubai man had these words to say:" *AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHH* gasp *UUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH*
0:00 - 1:13 "How are we gonna do this?" "Kill everything that fucking moves!" 1:13- 2:24 "You ready?" "Why not. No one lives forever." "Let's do this!" 2:25 - 2:55 "Don't let Delta reach that gate! Light them up! Now!" 2:56-4:06 "Welcome to Hell, Walker. We've been waiting for you." 4:06-5:15 "Another shot from that mortar and we are fucking dead!" 5:15 -7:15 "Walker! Go to that fucking turret!" 7:16 - 8:28 "LUGO?!"
For such a game this soundtrack is weirdly... relaxing. As if its adrenaline, keeping your mind away from horrors you're committing, only letting the bare minimum slip through. Just for you to see what you've done as soon as it wears off. Its beautyful, the whole game is. Its haunting, never letting you feel truly heroic, "Opening your eyes for the first time"...
+Majyxs You murdered a bunch of soldiers trying to defend a civilian refugee camp, in a vain attempt to take revenge on their commander for "forcing you" to massacre another one with white phosphorus, something that was your fault in the first place. So... do you feel cool yet?
Since I played it(it was 11.2013), it still makes me question myself as a person.... I became obsessed. To this day I remember this... "I'm sorry, Walker... But you knew it'd end this way. Your friends dead. The world on fire. And you, alone. You're are a failure... Finally, something we have in common." I'm not the same person anymore... And I will never be again.
@@sirballin9016 I was wondering why people were saying the campaign was good. It's very pretty, I can admit that. And I do feel some sort of pressure while playing the mission where you need to check three spots to find Hadir. But the story can be so much more realistic. Hadir is the most relatable character. He has seen growth from his tragic childhood. Characters need to be flawed in order to highlight the choices that make them better than the antagonist of the stories. But the game lacks depth to the characters.
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
Beat this game on FUBAR difficulty today. Really wasn't that hard. On the subject of the video, if you really let yourself listen to this song it will make you feel like a madman. It almost feels like it's tapping into a sadistic, crazy side of my brain that I didn't even know was there. Such a great game
This track perfectly subverts the “badass action rock music” trope you’ll find in other FPS shooters’ final levels or intense moments. Instead it’s somber, heavy, depressing and ominous. At this point in the game there’s nothing left worthy to fight for anymore, no clear goal in sight. It’s a pure, almost feral, fight for survival in a place that you wrought so much destruction on, that you helped raze to the ground (along with all the people in it). And now you’re fighting to save your own skin. So tell me…was it all worth it?
there are 2 ways to understand the story that answer all questions. 1:walker and the gang die in the intro but he's reliving everything until the second crash. after that it's walkers hell. 2: walker was knocked out after the intro and up until the second crash is a flashback with slight insanity. after the crash he just loses his mind.
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
to me it's clearly the second one; because the epilogue with Konrad it's real and heavily impliede that Walker was the only one that survived through there. the fact is that probably the entire helicopter sequence is another hallucination, to me, and Lugo and Adams died while reaching the radioman tower
It literally made me feel guilt....it fucked real with my mind...at the end i felt like why did i murder any individual?? Tf was i thinking while killing everyone?? Are heroes made by killing innocents??...My brain was not in the right state after completing the campaign and i instantly chose death for walker... :(...RIP WALKER MAN!! Who couldn't understand the real meaning of a hero Edit: but the game taught us that murdering people and making wrong choices with right intentions doesn't make you a hero..
Yeah, and this one is pretty much the best of all SO:TL's soundtrack. It just makes my brain shut down and I'm feeling like I want to shoot, I want to brake bones... this isn't just a game... it's an art.
Do you think this is an uplifting, mesmerising soundtrack, designed to see a valiant man's last push through to victory? Is this a melody that tugs at the heartstrings, that rallies the love and compassion for everything that we fight for? Does this sound like the song of a hero?
***** No, it sounds... like dementia. Like a last brutal cry of sanity within a man. Within Walker. Within us - everyone who played through Spec Ops: The Line. None of us wanted what to happened. We.. At that point we didn't want to have anything in common with what we've became... Yet, we were still pushing forward. For what exactly, I think none of us can say for sure, but it doesn't really matter... We did it and we completed the "art"... Whenever I hear this, I stop being myself... I'm just... It's hard to explain. I just want to be "in-motion" again. I want to be back there - killing everyone in rage. As much as I know I shouldn't, but I still do want it... And it disgusts me. This game... It's not just a game.
Interesting, that you use the word "rage" when describing the gatehouse. I... well, I felt nothing, I was just killing because, for the past eight hours, that's all I had ever done. I'd just killed and killed and killed, and for what? For nothing. In the words of Adams, "Why not? No-one lives forever." And you're damn right about your last comment. No matter whether people "enjoyed" The Line or not, they thought it was good or bad, I have heard almost universal praise in saying that this game is *important*.
***** I didn't use word "rage" as something that specific... I just meant the state of my mind whenever I hear this. I just don't think when I hear it. I just want to shoot those poor, fictional soldiers to death. Even when they die I still want to shoot them. I think it came from the last fighting chapter. "The Bridge". This music plays. When I play on FUBAR and die multiple times in a row - I get infuriated. But on this level something weird happens... this song plays... and I just keep respawning and don't care if I die... I'll have chance to shoot and beat them all to death. And - for sure - this game is almost awfully underrated. Practically no one knows of this... game if may I call it. P.S.: Thank you for making a good discussion with me, kind sir.
Stronger than you ever were... Whatever you say, Walker. Whatever happens next, don’t be too hard on yourself. Even after all you’ve done you can still go home. Lucky you.
i dont think im ok because i finished this game 52 times now on suicide mission and ive unlocked every single achievement and ive become level 40 two times online im just so obsessed with this game its just too perfect
I shot myself at the end because I couldn't deal with what the game was trying to teach me. I've never cried because of a video game before this, and I haven't since, but Jesus Christ... war is hell, and we make a game out of it. In my opinion, this was the most powerful video game in terms of story ever created. Nothing else is even close to this real. But maybe that's for the best.
darkfireslide I felt so horrible at the end, personally, I chose not to shoot myself. Instead, I started shooting at the air when the rescue team arrived they would shoot me dead. In my mind, I had become the villain, so I should have a death more fitting of one, by the hands of ones more virtuous than me. I also thought of it as a way for some retribution to be paid for the lives of the soldiers I had killed.
+laura A watching the movie "Apocalypse Now" puts this game into a better context. The thing is, delving into the game's lore, is that Dubai was already a war zone when you arrived. Everything that happened in the game isn't your fault, but it's undeniable that Walker was the spark that set the entire city ablaze. Yet it's also Konrad's fault for trying to do the same thing, only with a whole division at his back- yet he was no more successful than Walker was. The point of Spec Ops, of Apocalypse Now, and even Heart of Darkness, isn't just to portray the protagonist as a problem; rather, the point is that in war, no one is a winner, and there is no salvation for those condemned to situations that have gone this horribly wrong. That's the real takeaway. All we can do is show respect for those who have had to go through something like this and had the misfortune to survive.
The music itself tells the story of a well-trained naive soldier who believes at something good will happen after his work is done but war is hell, the next thing you know that said soldier is now a morally fucked-up psychopath who will stop at nothing to get what he wants.
Not a psychopath. Psychopaths control their actions and have no feelings. Walker is in a deep psychotic delirium driven by the need to feel like a hero/good about himself, which is probably caused by deep feelings of self-hatred, and then fuelled by denial of what his need for redemption is driving him to do in his recklessness
@@darkmoon8960 although they are heavily connected the plot can be quite different, so I am sure a great movie can be made. Besides there are not many movies for this narrative. There are some similarities with The Machinist in terms of guilt. :)
I know this is a 1y old comment but... Spec Ops: The Line must be experienced in a video game and not in any other media format. We literally killed all these soldiers, we killed all those innocent civilians, we literally did all of that. Thats what makes the game really impactful because we, the player did all of these fucked up things.
This is the most desperate and depressing soundtrack I've ever heard in the final push of any game I've played. I'm shocked I didn't realize that was the point the first time I played.
It's sad. I never played the game, but I watched a person play it on UA-cam. There was no commentary or facecam, so it was really just me and the characters in that world. I hated the game for all the disgusting imagry and the situations the group was placed in, but realized it was my choice solely to watch the video. Even if you're not the player, you still are at fault, just knowing if you pick up the game, you could be the player at anytime. You could be the reason they're suffering. It's deep shit, man.
I love this song, it fits the game so perfectly. Steady pace to match the action, but also has a tired, hopeless undertone to match the narrative. But merge to create exactly what you're seeing and feeling.
I think it was actually Sheltron 1 to tower. By the way, funny how that statement is made by a Zulu squad member, the equals to the Exiles or even elites of the 33rd. Says a lot at that point where even elite tactical soldiers with nerves of steel are desperate for help against Walker.
@@souloftherisingsun8274 Walker and his squad were Delta Force, and I believe they're better trained than Zulu squad and the elite soldiers of The Damned 33rd.
Dead Space is scary, that's true. But this game is psychologically so depressing and disturbing that I can't even explain. I'll keep playing it until I die. This game is a true masterpiece.
This game was to help non military people better understand the phases of severe post traumatic stress disorder and how it can effect even the best of soldiers but all comments beside the troll ones are accurate and true. I believed he came into dubai because he was tired of standing around and when he got in there he lost his mind eventually and allow himself to lose it all and just go apeshit hence some more severe ptsd outbreaks
You're completely wrong. The point of the game was showing you how the protagonist was a horrible, selfish person. He went on the mission so he could feel like an action hero saving the day, even though it wasn't the time and place for that. In the end he's ruined and ended lives that could have just been left alone, while having helped nobody, all out of an insecure need to reaffirm his masculinity. It's all to show how meaningless conflicts like the US interventions in the middle east are, and how ignorant the soldiers in the US army is. They're not going there to help anyone but themselves, so they can feel like "men" and "heroes". In reality they'll become homeless, mentally ill and cause destruction to the lives of innocent people.
@@Kushufy Uh, Delta Force was sent there to investigate what happened to Konrad and the 33rd. The point of the game is how Walker kept pushing forward because he personally believed that someone had to be saved or brought to justice, but all he managed to accomplish is, well, slaughter and destruction. Please try keeping your personal views of the real world out of it.
@@gua5432 You're the one who is biased because of personal views. The "point of the game" couldn't be any more obvious, it's shoved in your face numerous times. The game has a very clear anti-war message with how it makes fun of other FPS games, showing the consequences of war and portrays american soldiers as selfish idiots who don't really care about the political ramifications of their actions, they just want to feel like "heroes" by shooting brown people in countries that has been exploited by the western civilization for hundreds of years. If you think it's as shallow as "the main character had good intentions but screwed up" you're delusional and trivializing the work of the writers.
@@Kushufy Would you have said the same if the main protagonists were from SAS or KSK? You're pushing your own view of the US military onto the game. If all you got out of it is that you're playing as a trigger-happy racist yankee, then I feel sorry for you. Also, just FYI - some of the intel you find strongly implies that the Saudi government purposefully didn't proceed with the evacuation as fast as possible, and that they even ordered the murder of a foreign aid worker. But hey, USA bad, amirite?
The music in this game is outstanding. Especially imo Bjork - Storm. I have a genuine fear of playing this game again because the loading screens taunt YOU, not Walker. I don't like that. It scares me down to the core. "You are still a good person." "Cognitive Dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously." "This is all your fault."
The game puts you in the story . even if u want or not, and at the part "Shoot yourself or shoot Konrad" its the part where you can break the bond between you and the game. "It takes a strong man to deny what's in front of it"
I wish people would make more games like this. Games where the player feels like you have bond between you and the game and then at the final level, the bond breaks and the player has to make the choice.
Another year, another absolute morbid song that I love coming back to. To whoever uploaded this in the first place, thank you! Spec Ops: The Line for life 😎
I gave the soldiers the gun at the end, the ultimate hell for walker. He has to live with what he has done and it will eat away at him till the he dies
What is the big deal? I mean I don’t see much difference between fps and tps in terms of the sensation I get from video games. After all the character is played by you in both options.
@@ay7828 It's because in FPS you are quite literally on the main character pov, you see the world with his eyes, which can make people feel more immersed
Here after Game Maker's Toolkit video. This was the first thing I thought after seeing it. traumatism, madness, regrets. I'm part of those fools who didn't saw the white phosphorous trick and went closer and closer into Walker psyche. This wife with his empty orbit and her screaming daughter shocked me.
In this music it shows the madness and insanity walker is going through it shows how psychotic and brutal he is and how he is willing to do anything to complete his mission even if it means getting friends killed in the process.
TacticalBlackCats I've seen what that thing does 9 years ago and trust me, it's like stepping into hell where people on fire running next to you and everything is orange around you!!!!!
Such a shame soundtrack never got an official release. Even composer regrets that, saw his comments myself on some forum. And this music. Cool, but I can't listen to it. Not after I completed the game. "The Battle" is just so painful to hear. It perfectly encaptures that last stand Walker and Adams did. The last battle to the death, and there's nothing to fear, nothing to lose, and nothing humane to hold on to no more.
Went back through and played this in the highest difficulty and I found myself right there with Walker being pissed off and angry. Still, felt good to do it and shelve the game finally.
Ah, the memories... Near to the end, when Lugo was already dead and they were just Adams and you. This was played during a massacre from your side, allowing you to understand that you were the bad characters since the beginning.
That this song is so melancholy and played up against one completely brutal segment of gruesom, relentless battle really hammers that point home. Only game I ever played in one single almost continuous playthrough. At this point I was tired, and pissed off, and almost as angry as Walker even though I could see how it was fucking with my mind. Cognitive dissonance was invented for this game.
Funny how i keep coming back to this. Like something always draws me here. To this game. To the soundtrack. I've been in this comment section for YEARS now! Laura A, charlie, and some other youtube name i forgot. That was all me. I've practically liked all the comments here. This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Sometimes i wonder if someday far in the future, someone will read my comments. Farewell. 8/11/19
@@AdrianMuslim me too dude, me too I'll never get enough of this game LOL it's sad that the developers said they'd rather eat broken glass than make another..forgot if it was Yager or 2k that said that :(
That's where controvery starts. He just wanted to complete his mission, but as stuff got crazier, and he was losing the only people he had, he was seeking revengence. All the emotions built up in his head...
It was unearthly, and the men were-No, they were not inhuman. Well, you know, that was the worst of it-the suspicion of their not being inhuman. It would come slowly to one, what thrilled you was just the thought of their humanity-like yours-the thought of your remote kinship with this wild and passionate uproar. I remember these words scarring my soul like a hot poker when I first read them. Somethings, even if there just words stick with you forever.
Phosphorus is White,
Water is Blue,
Welcome To Hell Walker, We've Been Waiting For You
William Brady
that so dark man....
and kinda scary too.
This but in konrad's voice
Here’s my take: Sinew is white, the kids don’t have water, I’m goin’ to hell n’ you’re comin’ with, Walker.
Water is see-through ya dumb dumb
Fun fact: When Walker gets killed by the Heavy Lugo, you don't get a loading screen. Walker wakes back up after seeing another vision of the mother holding her child and wakes up back at the last checkpoint, where the heavy doesn't look like Lugo anymore.
I remember this, but I honestly think managing to kill “Lugo” is more powerful because of what he says as he dies.
No bro,this isn't a fun fact. This is just a fact,a normal one.
@@MilitaristTurkcu I'm not your bro
Sad fact*
Actually 🤓 you can defeat the heavy lugo and move into the building and if you get killed as soon as you go in you will also see the horrors we have committed
Anyone who says that video games cannot be art has never played Spec Ops: The Line.
kevlonk :) Finally...
I understand u Now ure gonna play Bulletstorm and ofc The Darkness II or remaster Blood:Fresh supply thats a fcking art !
and Silent Hill
also Dishonored, Furi, Katana Zero.
@@user-qz7xx4ip2m And Resident Evil and Titanfall 2 In my opinion
Mission objective late game:
• Get to lugo - Now!
• Up the street - Move!
• Take the gatehouse!
• *Run god damn it!*
Man, even the objective had turned hostile towards you.
yeah they were most likely walker's mind
Walker himself also becomes more unhinged as the game goes on. If you command Lugo or Adams to do something at the beginning he says, “Tango down” or “Neutralize these hostiles.” Towards the end of the story he screams, “KILL THESE MOTHERFUCKERS!”
before the Willy Peat incident, the delta operators are professional, after that...guilt taken over Walker and he is more angry and ruthless...
As more and more time passes through the game, Walker loses his sanity, and his insistence that not only did Konrad do this, but that he should be killed lead to his eventual downfall. The 33rd, the innocent civilians caught up in this mess, and even his own squad are all victims of Captain Walker. If he stopped and realized what he was doing sooner rather then later, many deaths could've been prevented, yet on he marched, and for what?
Walker's self-hatred becoming more and more obvious.
I think the most powerful message I took back from this was that having good intentions does not guarantee good outcomes, and that the people who commit the worst atrocities are sometimes those with the purest intentions.
+Thanos Thrylos To me, Martin Walker is the ultimate example of how having a Chaotic Good person for a leader can lead to disastrous consequences.
+Thanos Thrylos Did you make Walker kill himself...?
+sebool112 nope i made him to fight the soldiers and kill himself by them of course i put it on fubar difficulty.
Thanos Thrylos What I took from the game was that remorse is a strong punishment, and if are presented with something(by yourself or others' manipulation) a certain way you do things that are the opposite of what you want to do.
The game has many lessons like in real life.
"Kill someone, you're a murderer. Kill everyone and you're a god"
Such a good game !
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
Yeah, heard about that. Real disappointing.
Hold my beer *
@@Mark-fc7tu the reason the options were removed was because those choices were too easy to make. It damages the narrative the game was going for which is not stupid but really deep. The game needed that phosphorus scene to be able to tell its narrative.
@@ahsanumar01 don't bother with him. He wouldn't understand how the game is trying to portray that in life, sometimes your hands are bound to make a particularly bad choice. The 33rd could stop shooting at you once Lugo yeld we are not CIA, but they didn't. Plus, he is a troll. He has been copy pasting this comment.
-It takes a strong man to deny what's right in front of him.
-Stronger than you were.
-Whatever you say, Walker.
Ahmed Ghulam I did that because Walker needs to live with his mistake (repeating Konrad's mistake) and perhaps one day he might find the power to accept it and forgive himself for forcing his men to follow a mirage with him and killing the main protagonist in the end of any game has always been pointless.
My friend....you are condemning Walker into a perpetual torment cause he were already dead since the beginning of the game....remember that helicopter crash? This is not your usual "hero" surviving all kind of shit warfare game...Your reliving the entrance of hell within yourself purgatory over and over again until you take the choice of seek at least a little amount of redemption in suicide.
No matter what happens next, don't be too hard on yourself. Even now, after all you've done you can still go home. Lucky you.
Roblereck I know I’m more than late to be replying to this, but every time someone says that he died in beginning and think that Walker killing himself would let him escape doesn’t add up to me. It’s not specifically the possibility that he is in some type of purgatory or hell, but the idea that suicide would get him out of it somehow. Suicide itself was considered a specific reason people would go to purgatory after they died, you kill yourself you put your soul in purgatory, so why would that suddenly get Walker out of it? If Walker is suppose to realize and accept what he’s done then wouldn’t suicide be an explicit sign that he didn’t want to accept it or at the least couldn’t handle it?
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
"You ready?"
"Why not? No one lives forever."
The way Walker says "Goddamnit" in the last shootout, like a freaking psycho. Very nice detail by the developers at that point, he was really losing it.
Bernardo Franco yeah. I love how it escalated over time
His kill em all attitude by the end upped all the intensity to ridiculous levels, what a great fucking game.
Practically choking on his own saliva and blood as he slurs the words out. Like he's drunk off the madness.
in the entire game Walker ,Lugo and Adams never drink water
+Hitler Dolfy I noticed this, too. I just assumed they drank water off-screen, like the scene where they hide in the pipe during the sandstorm.
tylerboy565 True
+Hitler Dolfy its probably all of the game was in one day. THINK about it.
+laura A It was over the course of two days. About a week if you count the epilogues.
(Day 1) You first get to Dubai during daylight, then when you meet Riggs it's night.
(Day 2) When you save Lugo at the mall it's daylight again, and by the time you reach the Burj Khalifa stand-in (Conrad's tower) it's night again.
(Epilogues) When Walker is waiting for the rescue team he has a noticeable beard, so add a few more days.
+Wafflepudding There's also a night loading screen around Chapter 6, so maybe it was 3 days?
"I didnt mean to hurt anybody....."
"No one ever does Walker...."
Even those who do, think they're doing it for the greater good, but it's never the case
-THERE THEY ARE!
-MURDERERS!!!!!!!!!
If you can hear me, Konrad, call off your men!
And deny them vengeance for what you did at the Gate?
When the "bad guys" are calling YOU murderers is when it gets real
"How many Americans have you killed today?", "You are still a good person", "This is all your fault", "Killing for yourself is murder, killing for your government is heroic, killing for entertainment is harmless" This game really does make your rethink everything! Feels AWESOME to platinum it and finish it on FUBAR!
Reinforcement602 Damn straight! Glad there wasn't any MP trophies!
+ExodusHunter15 hell yeah it was!
+ExodusHunter15 What's your id bud?
btw just got the platinum (:
Kill one man your a murderer kill everyone your a god
“The U.S. Military does not condone the killing of unarmed civilians. But none of this is real, so why should you care?”
If that didn’t make you feel like a monster the first time you saw that, you might be a tiny bit psychotic
"Don't let Delta reach that gate, light 'em up NOW!!!"
"Willy Pete!"
"Welcome to hell Walker"
JustAnotherUser565 another shot of that mortar and we're fucking dead... (Walker grabs an RPG) IT'S RAPING TIME!!!!
"The gate has fallen, the whole fucking city has fallen! Stop them!"
"Do you even remember why you came here?"
"How many Americans have you killed today?"
sebool112 "do you feel like a hero yet?"
sebool112 we were sent to recon the area for any survivors (Grey Fox) and if we find any, we request immediate evacuation and when they send in the cavalry, we can go home but too bad shit went south!!!!
This is all your fault...
Colonel Konrad he couldn’t move on, his mind was twisted, he couldn’t *Let go*
Still probably one of the best modern military shooters that capture the true brutality behind war...
This game makes you realize what COD can't
And cod waw too...👆
"There they are!"
"MURDERERS!!!"
"Attack!"
"I wanna see these bastards burnt alive!"
...
Things completely broke,there's no regret for turning back...
This track perfectly captures the sad futility of Walker's descent into madness that forms the essence of Konrad's question, "But on you marched, and for what?"
To save lives? Revenge? Denial? No one can remember. Everyone's just trying to kill each other, and they don't even know why anymore.
(I know it's a rhetorical question, but still.)
"Can you even remember why you came here."
Walker forgot why he was even there in the first place from the very beginning
"Thought we were rescuing people"
Wrong. You were locating people, once the mission was completed you should´ve walked out of Dubai.
MisterUnderMain
Spoiler alert:
Not even that
that's true
I think the best part about this whole game is Nolan North, as Walker's voice. You usually hear North in these kind of light hearted roles like the Prince from PoP 2008 or Nathan Drake. This was the first time we've seen him give voice to an actually ''evil'' character, and it's just amazing how he goes from the simple soldier to a raving lunatic throughout the story. How the ''Need some cover while I'm reloading'' changes to ''Fuck, I have to reload'', how the ''Tango down'' changes to ''Fuck you'' and ''Killed that son of a bitch''. Just from his voice alone the character progression is absolutely followable.
Gentlemen, welcome to Dubai.
They also made him and everyone else record all of their voice lines in one day, and in order they appear in the game. By the end the characters all sound exhausted because the voice actors are.
@@watchfulstormThat’s cool. Sucky for the VA’s, but effective.
"If you were a better person you wouldn't be here."
“Cognitive Dissonance is the unsettling feeling caused by holding two conflicting beliefs simultaneously.”
kevlonk
"You're still a good person."
+sbn4 then why are you here :/
+Stone Cold Steve Austin good one
For me, this song has a lot of tragedy to it. It's the last stand, everyone's about to kill each other, and for what? Survival? Honor? Duty? Entertainment?
Nobody can remember anymore. Everyone just wanted to help, and instead, they found the pathway to Hell.
"The Gate," if you will.
This game is the quote "The road to hell is paved with good intentions".
Its subtle, but you can hear this song several times in the background earlier in the game. Usually upon discovering the aftermath of of various travesties. Its only when you reach the bridge, when the full version plays, which nicely captures how fucked up everything is by this point.
Aaron Cook by that point, everything is beyond fixing because it's RAPING TIME for the 33rd.
On today’s episode of how f’d is f’d…. That’s f’d up
THE 33RD DON't WANT TO LEAVE DUBAI!? FINE! WE'LL BURY THEM HERE!
OMGBEARS love that part too
OMGBEARS take us around the corner... I wanna see what this gun can do!!!! (1 minute later) AAAAAAHHHH... GOT THE FUCKERS!!!!! (30 seconds) Whoa wait this isn't right!!!! We've been here already!!!! F*** it... just get us outta here!!!! (40 seconds later) Then take us in... I guess we'll find out!!!! (To be continued vine plays)
Wait! This isn't right!
Well, it's too late now!
No, no, I mean we did this already!
@@CravenDrip You already know this. Walker literally says it in the intro. It's just pointed out to you at the end. You realize that you tried to be a hero, which was the wrong choice. You should've followed orders. Radioed in once you found the survivors, and went home. No. Instead, you marched on. And for what?
So here's a thought! What is your favourite loading screen quote ?
Mine is "Can you even remember why you came here ?"
This is all your fault
"You are still a good person".
"How many people have you killed today?"
"Cognitive Dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously."
You're still a good person.
Every time I read that I felt as if the game was taunting me... It felt kind of... Off...
Disliker "You are still a good person"
+Baptize You can still go home
+Saint Kuro Home? We can't go home. There's a line (all men) like us have to cross. If we are lucky we do what is necessary and we die. No, all I really wanted , Captain, is peace.
+Baptize Do you feel like a hero yet
+Baptize Early game: No need to get worked up gentlemen.
Late game:
I want him DEAD!
[Blocks]
Got the fucker!
Gentlemen,welcome to Dubai.
The guy who wrote the story is writing the story for the new wolverine game
FUCK YES
HELL YEAH
Oh let’s go I’m even more hyped for the game
"Tourism up an astounding 3000%, as a fresh wave of Americans make Dubai their vacation destination of choice! When asked what he thought of these fresh, new faces, a local Dubai man had these words to say:"
*AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIUUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHHHH* gasp *UUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH*
0:00 - 1:13 "How are we gonna do this?" "Kill everything that fucking moves!"
1:13- 2:24 "You ready?" "Why not. No one lives forever." "Let's do this!"
2:25 - 2:55 "Don't let Delta reach that gate! Light them up! Now!"
2:56-4:06 "Welcome to Hell, Walker. We've been waiting for you."
4:06-5:15 "Another shot from that mortar and we are fucking dead!"
5:15 -7:15 "Walker! Go to that fucking turret!"
7:16 - 8:28 "LUGO?!"
YOU LEFT ME TO DIE!
Ah Goddamit
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 "The only villain here.....is you, Walker.....It's only you.
After Walker makes his first kill in that section, you can hear Adams say "This one's for Lugo, mother******."
For such a game this soundtrack is weirdly... relaxing.
As if its adrenaline, keeping your mind away from horrors you're committing, only letting the bare minimum slip through. Just for you to see what you've done as soon as it wears off.
Its beautyful, the whole game is. Its haunting, never letting you feel truly heroic, "Opening your eyes for the first time"...
Still playing this game in 2016. This one will be a classic.
***** On FUBAR, I ran through the "Free Bird!" helicopter shootout on the FIRST TRY! How cool is that?
+Majyxs just bought it. the soundrack is freaking awesome! gameplay and story also!
+Majyxs yup
+Majyxs You murdered a bunch of soldiers trying to defend a civilian refugee camp, in a vain attempt to take revenge on their commander for "forcing you" to massacre another one with white phosphorus, something that was your fault in the first place. So...
do you feel cool yet?
Wafflepudding They brought it on themselves.
This game is a masterpiece. It made me question myself as a person
Since I played it(it was 11.2013), it still makes me question myself as a person.... I became obsessed.
To this day I remember this... "I'm sorry, Walker... But you knew it'd end this way. Your friends dead. The world on fire. And you, alone. You're are a failure... Finally, something we have in common."
I'm not the same person anymore... And I will never be again.
+Soap MacTavish no. Question everything.
I just love how this game basically takes the 'Murica Saves the Day!' trope and tells it to take a hike.
modern warfare didnt have the balls to do something like spec ops
@@sirballin9016 sadly it is true
@@sirballin9016 I was wondering why people were saying the campaign was good. It's very pretty, I can admit that. And I do feel some sort of pressure while playing the mission where you need to check three spots to find Hadir. But the story can be so much more realistic. Hadir is the most relatable character. He has seen growth from his tragic childhood. Characters need to be flawed in order to highlight the choices that make them better than the antagonist of the stories. But the game lacks depth to the characters.
Boi Loop truth
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
This game almost broke me. The last combat sequence where this song is playing is like a nightmare.
You still think about it?
Don't think I'll ever forget it
the fifteen dislikes can't accept what they've done
Gud
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
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And i totally understand
Beat this game on FUBAR difficulty today. Really wasn't that hard. On the subject of the video, if you really let yourself listen to this song it will make you feel like a madman. It almost feels like it's tapping into a sadistic, crazy side of my brain that I didn't even know was there. Such a great game
:3
This track perfectly subverts the “badass action rock music” trope you’ll find in other FPS shooters’ final levels or intense moments. Instead it’s somber, heavy, depressing and ominous. At this point in the game there’s nothing left worthy to fight for anymore, no clear goal in sight. It’s a pure, almost feral, fight for survival in a place that you wrought so much destruction on, that you helped raze to the ground (along with all the people in it). And now you’re fighting to save your own skin.
So tell me…was it all worth it?
Spec Ops The Line is a game i will NEVER forget, dammit, 2K and Yager, your last TPS game was a banger
"YOU'RE A DELTA OPERATIVE! ACT LIKE IT!"
WE GOOD?
there are 2 ways to understand the story that answer all questions.
1:walker and the gang die in the intro but he's reliving everything until the second crash. after that it's walkers hell.
2: walker was knocked out after the intro and up until the second crash is a flashback with slight insanity. after the crash he just loses his mind.
I would say the first one fits better to the story
You know, in the beta version of the game, there were options to have Walker obey orders to leave Dubai at the start or even fight without using the white phosphorus, but too many beta testers took those options. So the developers had to take those choices out because it ruined the stupid narrative.
to me it's clearly the second one; because the epilogue with Konrad it's real and heavily impliede that Walker was the only one that survived through there. the fact is that probably the entire helicopter sequence is another hallucination, to me, and Lugo and Adams died while reaching the radioman tower
@@Mark-fc7tu Where'd you find that out?
@@siddhartinothere was a planned dlc where Adams survived the bombing
I love this game story, very mind blowing..
Patrick Pondaag actually it's mind fucking not mind blowing.
What about the ending? I personally chose the mind blowing route...
It literally made me feel guilt....it fucked real with my mind...at the end i felt like why did i murder any individual?? Tf was i thinking while killing everyone?? Are heroes made by killing innocents??...My brain was not in the right state after completing the campaign and i instantly chose death for walker... :(...RIP WALKER MAN!! Who couldn't understand the real meaning of a hero
Edit: but the game taught us that murdering people and making wrong choices with right intentions doesn't make you a hero..
I'm the only one who have a "braingasm" with pretty much every music Spec Ops: The Line related ?
Yeah, and this one is pretty much the best of all SO:TL's soundtrack. It just makes my brain shut down and I'm feeling like I want to shoot, I want to brake bones... this isn't just a game... it's an art.
Do you think this is an uplifting, mesmerising soundtrack, designed to see a valiant man's last push through to victory?
Is this a melody that tugs at the heartstrings, that rallies the love and compassion for everything that we fight for?
Does this sound like the song of a hero?
***** No, it sounds... like dementia. Like a last brutal cry of sanity within a man. Within Walker. Within us - everyone who played through Spec Ops: The Line. None of us wanted what to happened. We.. At that point we didn't want to have anything in common with what we've became...
Yet, we were still pushing forward. For what exactly, I think none of us can say for sure, but it doesn't really matter... We did it and we completed the "art"...
Whenever I hear this, I stop being myself... I'm just... It's hard to explain. I just want to be "in-motion" again. I want to be back there - killing everyone in rage. As much as I know I shouldn't, but I still do want it... And it disgusts me.
This game... It's not just a game.
Interesting, that you use the word "rage" when describing the gatehouse. I... well, I felt nothing, I was just killing because, for the past eight hours, that's all I had ever done. I'd just killed and killed and killed, and for what? For nothing. In the words of Adams, "Why not? No-one lives forever."
And you're damn right about your last comment. No matter whether people "enjoyed" The Line or not, they thought it was good or bad, I have heard almost universal praise in saying that this game is *important*.
***** I didn't use word "rage" as something that specific... I just meant the state of my mind whenever I hear this. I just don't think when I hear it. I just want to shoot those poor, fictional soldiers to death. Even when they die I still want to shoot them. I think it came from the last fighting chapter. "The Bridge". This music plays.
When I play on FUBAR and die multiple times in a row - I get infuriated. But on this level something weird happens... this song plays... and I just keep respawning and don't care if I die... I'll have chance to shoot and beat them all to death.
And - for sure - this game is almost awfully underrated. Practically no one knows of this... game if may I call it.
P.S.: Thank you for making a good discussion with me, kind sir.
Something about this song is terrifying.
Keegah because it is.
Just listening to this gives me a feeling of dread.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 what kind of guitar playing they call it
@@macmiller6055 I think it's an electric guitar. It's definitely not an acoustic.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 what's the tone of the guitar
“ welcome to hell Walker, we’ve been waiting for you “
It takes a strong man to deny what is right in front of him...
+João Victor F. S. Fernandes And to say IT right in front of him :)
...And if the truth is undeniable, he creates his own.
Stronger than you ever were...
Whatever you say, Walker.
Whatever happens next, don’t be too hard on yourself. Even after all you’ve done you can still go home. Lucky you.
i dont think im ok because i finished this game 52 times now on suicide mission and ive unlocked every single achievement and ive become level 40 two times online im just so obsessed with this game its just too perfect
khada jhin do you feel like a hero yet?
And do you feel like a hero yet?
It's all your fault
U became a fucking killer
And on your march, for what?
Even the comment section of this game's soundtrack is so legendary 💯.
and this comment here is very underrated.
I shot myself at the end because I couldn't deal with what the game was trying to teach me. I've never cried because of a video game before this, and I haven't since, but Jesus Christ... war is hell, and we make a game out of it. In my opinion, this was the most powerful video game in terms of story ever created. Nothing else is even close to this real.
But maybe that's for the best.
darkfireslide I felt so horrible at the end, personally, I chose not to shoot myself. Instead, I started shooting at the air when the rescue team arrived they would shoot me dead. In my mind, I had become the villain, so I should have a death more fitting of one, by the hands of ones more virtuous than me. I also thought of it as a way for some retribution to be paid for the lives of the soldiers I had killed.
I had to stop the madness somehow. I really was oblivious to what I was doing until the very end. But I respect the way you dealt with it as well.
+darkfireslide Im all on your side, i love how you said this :)
+laura A watching the movie "Apocalypse Now" puts this game into a better context. The thing is, delving into the game's lore, is that Dubai was already a war zone when you arrived. Everything that happened in the game isn't your fault, but it's undeniable that Walker was the spark that set the entire city ablaze. Yet it's also Konrad's fault for trying to do the same thing, only with a whole division at his back- yet he was no more successful than Walker was. The point of Spec Ops, of Apocalypse Now, and even Heart of Darkness, isn't just to portray the protagonist as a problem; rather, the point is that in war, no one is a winner, and there is no salvation for those condemned to situations that have gone this horribly wrong. That's the real takeaway. All we can do is show respect for those who have had to go through something like this and had the misfortune to survive.
+darkfireslide Great work
Welcome to the Hell Walker. We have been waiting for you.
"Deep down, you knew we all had to die."
SR Brant I hate Riggs.
HE TURNED US INTO FUCKING KILLERS!!!
+HowTuiteDoes You brought this on yourself :)
The music itself tells the story of a well-trained naive soldier who believes at something good will happen after his work is done but war is hell, the next thing you know that said soldier is now a morally fucked-up psychopath who will stop at nothing to get what he wants.
Not a psychopath. Psychopaths control their actions and have no feelings. Walker is in a deep psychotic delirium driven by the need to feel like a hero/good about himself, which is probably caused by deep feelings of self-hatred, and then fuelled by denial of what his need for redemption is driving him to do in his recklessness
Kris Norge So he's compensating for his small penis?
+Ihaz Noame You cant live forever
Great description.
Considering the Holocaust happening in the Middle East rn, this part of the game hits so much harder, especially if you’re using a Tar-21.
There are many games with explicit content, even more explicit than this, but none, however explicit, hits as much as this
Remember that chapter when you throw white phosphorus on civilians....it's called "The gate"......to HELL
Who else agrees that this might actually make a good movie If done right?
It’ll be the modern apocalypse now if It was a movie
@@darkmoon8960 although they are heavily connected the plot can be quite different, so I am sure a great movie can be made. Besides there are not many movies for this narrative. There are some similarities with The Machinist in terms of guilt. :)
@@momchilandonov and Shutter Island with Di Caprio
I know this is a 1y old comment but...
Spec Ops: The Line must be experienced in a video game and not in any other media format. We literally killed all these soldiers, we killed all those innocent civilians, we literally did all of that. Thats what makes the game really impactful because we, the player did all of these fucked up things.
@@rock3668 I know. It's...honestly, a mindfuck of a masterpiece.
Man it's been 8 years and this game still gives me chills💯🙌
This is the most desperate and depressing soundtrack I've ever heard in the final push of any game I've played. I'm shocked I didn't realize that was the point the first time I played.
"Welcome to hell Walker"
"We´ve been waiting for you"
Chicken apple butter pie
We complete* our mission
Fun fact: This game was originally going to be developed by Rockstar Games. But then it was developed by Jager.
Anyway.. after all what happend, you can still go home. Lucky you..
That went deep
Listening in May 2017. Right in the feelings :'(
how about may 2018
I love this song
Shuvo May 2018
JUL 2018 this game, this music, this feelings dont go away
It's sad. I never played the game, but I watched a person play it on UA-cam. There was no commentary or facecam, so it was really just me and the characters in that world. I hated the game for all the disgusting imagry and the situations the group was placed in, but realized it was my choice solely to watch the video. Even if you're not the player, you still are at fault, just knowing if you pick up the game, you could be the player at anytime. You could be the reason they're suffering. It's deep shit, man.
I love this song, it fits the game so perfectly. Steady pace to match the action, but also has a tired, hopeless undertone to match the narrative. But merge to create exactly what you're seeing and feeling.
"Sheldon to Tower 1 do you read?"
"Copy Sheldon what's your status?"
"We need backup!"
"What?"
"Don't ask questions just send backup!"
i think it was sheldon 1 to tower, not sheldon to tower 1
I think it was actually Sheltron 1 to tower. By the way, funny how that statement is made by a Zulu squad member, the equals to the Exiles or even elites of the 33rd. Says a lot at that point where even elite tactical soldiers with nerves of steel are desperate for help against Walker.
SoulOfTheRisingSun what part was this?
@@souloftherisingsun8274 Walker and his squad were Delta Force, and I believe they're better trained than Zulu squad and the elite soldiers of The Damned 33rd.
@@captainmartinwalker2848 beginning of Chapter 14.
this game is more horrifying than any dead space game
Dead Space is scary, that's true. But this game is psychologically so depressing and disturbing that I can't even explain. I'll keep playing it until I die. This game is a true masterpiece.
@big smoke You picked the wrong comment, fool!
This game was to help non military people better understand the phases of severe post traumatic stress disorder and how it can effect even the best of soldiers but all comments beside the troll ones are accurate and true. I believed he came into dubai because he was tired of standing around and when he got in there he lost his mind eventually and allow himself to lose it all and just go apeshit hence some more severe ptsd outbreaks
You're completely wrong. The point of the game was showing you how the protagonist was a horrible, selfish person. He went on the mission so he could feel like an action hero saving the day, even though it wasn't the time and place for that. In the end he's ruined and ended lives that could have just been left alone, while having helped nobody, all out of an insecure need to reaffirm his masculinity. It's all to show how meaningless conflicts like the US interventions in the middle east are, and how ignorant the soldiers in the US army is. They're not going there to help anyone but themselves, so they can feel like "men" and "heroes". In reality they'll become homeless, mentally ill and cause destruction to the lives of innocent people.
@@Kushufy nonetheless, that's still unbelievably sad.
@@Kushufy Uh, Delta Force was sent there to investigate what happened to Konrad and the 33rd. The point of the game is how Walker kept pushing forward because he personally believed that someone had to be saved or brought to justice, but all he managed to accomplish is, well, slaughter and destruction. Please try keeping your personal views of the real world out of it.
@@gua5432 You're the one who is biased because of personal views. The "point of the game" couldn't be any more obvious, it's shoved in your face numerous times. The game has a very clear anti-war message with how it makes fun of other FPS games, showing the consequences of war and portrays american soldiers as selfish idiots who don't really care about the political ramifications of their actions, they just want to feel like "heroes" by shooting brown people in countries that has been exploited by the western civilization for hundreds of years. If you think it's as shallow as "the main character had good intentions but screwed up" you're delusional and trivializing the work of the writers.
@@Kushufy Would you have said the same if the main protagonists were from SAS or KSK? You're pushing your own view of the US military onto the game. If all you got out of it is that you're playing as a trigger-happy racist yankee, then I feel sorry for you.
Also, just FYI - some of the intel you find strongly implies that the Saudi government purposefully didn't proceed with the evacuation as fast as possible, and that they even ordered the murder of a foreign aid worker. But hey, USA bad, amirite?
"Единственный злодей здесь. Это ты Уокер. Только ты."
While reading the news about the Hamas-Israel war, I finally understood the meaning of "the line". The line has been crossed so many times.
The music in this game is outstanding. Especially imo Bjork - Storm. I have a genuine fear of playing this game again because the loading screens taunt YOU, not Walker. I don't like that. It scares me down to the core. "You are still a good person." "Cognitive Dissonance is an uncomfortable feeling caused by holding two conflicting ideas simultaneously." "This is all your fault."
+TheMazerRackham Yes it is
+Lashmer If you were a better person you wouldn't be here
"Do you feel like a hero yet?"
"There is no difference between what is right and what is necessary."
Is there a difference between the two?
"Kill is fucking confirmed."
"Fuck you."
"Got the motherfucker!"
"Heavy is fucking down!"
"He's *dead.*"
God, this game didn't pull any punches.
Whatever happens next, don't be so hard on yourself. After all you've done, you can still go home. Lucky you.
That game has epic storyline!
The game puts you in the story . even if u want or not, and at the part "Shoot yourself or shoot Konrad" its the part where you can break the bond between you and the game. "It takes a strong man to deny what's in front of it"
I wish people would make more games like this.
Games where the player feels like you have bond between you and the game and then at the final level, the bond breaks and the player has to make the choice.
I like how the bass was the lead instrument here, you don't see that to often.
Another year, another absolute morbid song that I love coming back to. To whoever uploaded this in the first place, thank you! Spec Ops: The Line for life 😎
I gave the soldiers the gun at the end, the ultimate hell for walker. He has to live with what he has done and it will eat away at him till the he dies
Imagine playing this game in first person
You can go to army
@@bogdanbublikov9780 nailed it
Then we could never see this awesome character captain Martin walker.
What is the big deal? I mean I don’t see much difference between fps and tps in terms of the sensation I get from video games. After all the character is played by you in both options.
@@ay7828
It's because in FPS you are quite literally on the main character pov, you see the world with his eyes, which can make people feel more immersed
Here after Game Maker's Toolkit video. This was the first thing I thought after seeing it. traumatism, madness, regrets. I'm part of those fools who didn't saw the white phosphorous trick and went closer and closer into Walker psyche. This wife with his empty orbit and her screaming daughter shocked me.
THIS IS YOUR FAULT GODDAMMIT !!
Stop right there lugo
He wouldn't listen!
We didn't have a choice!
He turned us into FUCKING KILLERS!
"That's enough, Sergeant! CONTROL YOURSELF!!!"
In this music it shows the madness and insanity walker is going through it shows how psychotic and brutal he is and how he is willing to do anything to complete his mission even if it means getting friends killed in the process.
Si
Yet he can't even remember the true purpose of his mission at that point of the story.
best narrative in a 360 game? best best narrative in a 360 game.
this track gives me some serious feels
Best narrative in any game of the last generation and arguably this generation as well
Hits you right in the gut.
wyldeman7 best game ever
Alan Wake is better imo
@thewreckofisgard6380 nah
''Shotgunner on the field''
"Shotgunner, tyring to be a hero!"
Take out that fucking heavy!
Put him down!
Spec Ops the line changed me for ever.
Like seeing a dark game surface every once in a while.
Willie Pete!
TacticalBlackCats I've seen what that thing does 9 years ago and trust me, it's like stepping into hell where people on fire running next to you and everything is orange around you!!!!!
TacticalBlackCats "Another shot of that mortar and we're f***ing DEAD!!!!" Courtesy of your one and only savior, Captain Martin Walker.
I AM Batman What are the eight scariest words in the English language?
Treyvon Thompson "we are Delta Force and we are here to save you" even though they're not eight but this is the only correct answer!!! 😃😃😃😃😃
Such a shame soundtrack never got an official release. Even composer regrets that, saw his comments myself on some forum.
And this music. Cool, but I can't listen to it. Not after I completed the game.
"The Battle" is just so painful to hear. It perfectly encaptures that last stand Walker and Adams did. The last battle to the death, and there's nothing to fear, nothing to lose, and nothing humane to hold on to no more.
Man, you just fucking nailed my feeling about this song!
The when this played mostly during the end of the game the only thing I got from the song was the overwhelming feeling a dread.
Welcome to hell Walker we'been waiting for you
-John Konrad
Went back through and played this in the highest difficulty and I found myself right there with Walker being pissed off and angry. Still, felt good to do it and shelve the game finally.
I TRIED TO SAVE YOU!
You are no savior!Your talents lies elsewhere....
YOU CAN'T SAVE ANYONE!
I TRIED!
THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! YOURS!!
If that's what you believe,then shoot me.......1.....
A soundtrack that truly does need more recognition, would blast it on Spotify if it'll get to that platform.
This game needs to be remastered
the modern day pussies would cry
Ah, the memories... Near to the end, when Lugo was already dead and they were just Adams and you. This was played during a massacre from your side, allowing you to understand that you were the bad characters since the beginning.
just recently beat the game a second time, still one of my all time favorite games.
memories man, all the memories I played with this game
That this song is so melancholy and played up against one completely brutal segment of gruesom, relentless battle really hammers that point home. Only game I ever played in one single almost continuous playthrough. At this point I was tired, and pissed off, and almost as angry as Walker even though I could see how it was fucking with my mind. Cognitive dissonance was invented for this game.
That's just the perfect flow and tone.
Funny how i keep coming back to this. Like something always draws me here. To this game. To the soundtrack. I've been in this comment section for YEARS now! Laura A, charlie, and some other youtube name i forgot. That was all me. I've practically liked all the comments here. This game will always hold a special place in my heart. Sometimes i wonder if someday far in the future, someone will read my comments. Farewell. 8/11/19
This song is in stuck in my head like forever. My love for this is so deep
@@AdrianMuslim me too dude, me too I'll never get enough of this game LOL it's sad that the developers said they'd rather eat broken glass than make another..forgot if it was Yager or 2k that said that :(
@@hawkskipper5537 The writer of this game, Walt Williams said it.
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 Thank you!! I never knew that part :) I love that you have that detail, that's cool as hell
That's where controvery starts. He just wanted to complete his mission, but as stuff got crazier, and he was losing the only people he had, he was seeking revengence. All the emotions built up in his head...
🔥🔥🔥Actually The Writer of SPEC OPS THE LINE was GOD🔥🔥🔥
It was unearthly, and the men were-No, they were not inhuman. Well, you know, that was the worst of it-the suspicion of their not being inhuman. It would come slowly to one, what thrilled you was just the thought of their humanity-like yours-the thought of your remote kinship with this wild and passionate uproar.
I remember these words scarring my soul like a hot poker when I first read them. Somethings, even if there just words stick with you forever.
Was that Heart of Darkness?
+sm3xiiis0p3s You