The extended Jazz Section is not my favorite. I like the version of Love that's kinda a hybrid of Garage rock with Soul Music,Funk,RnB and then also Eurofolk,Western Military,Classical and then Latin and Country more than the attempts to be a Jazz rock band on this album. That feels more like this really unique definitive incredibly roots l6 incredibly gritty Arthur Lee Approach like almost signature approach to me. Obviously really intresting and complex rhythm and melody systems in there. The Jazz Section on this feels morelike same old same old. 7 and 7 is,The Castle,and Stephanie know who are by far the strongest songs on the album. There are cool moments on this song but the extended Jazz number is generic and lacking and also quite frankly I just like Spul-Funk,European Folk Songs,Mariachi,Country Music,Western Military,and other ideas he was playing with more to begin. Comparatively more dates and less of that sort of timeless gritty folk/trad/roots type of sound.
Saw them live when they were playing rec centers in the Los Angeles area and Hollywood. Lived on Sunset Bl. In the 65-66 era. All the biggies played the Strip. Byrds, Dylan, Doors, Buffalo Springfield... Pandoras Box, Whisky, Hulabaloo... Cool days indeed!!!! Les Derwood Smith 😳
I don't remember Dylan playing on the Strip, but I guess it could have slipped by me. Anyhow, I saw Cream at the Whisky right before they hit the big time. Now that was memorable. I don't know how it happened that I never saw Love - they were favorites of mine.
Back in North Hollywood High School days we would sometimes be treated to a free concert in the gym performed by school alumni during afternoon school hours. One afternoon there's a concert in the gym and to my teenage amazement the band performing is Love! How or why this was happening was beyond me. Arthur Lee, that saxophone player, Tjay Cantrelli was memorable. Every cut on this album still makes me feel so good!
i love this piece, its distilled los angeles sunshine, it captures a groove, then stretches it and expands it till you get to that sweet spot. What a masterpiece, what a band of players
This lengthy virtuoso, along with East West from Paul Butterfield and The End from the Doors are what really got the ball rolling with epic prog / psychedelic music. These songs and the Beatles ‘ Revolver ‘ really set the tone in 1966, a significantly special year in rock history.
All of these are only considered Psychedelic interestingly enough even though Love attempted to remove The Blues Inspirations (here obviously not but overall) in favor of European Folk Music aswell as using heavy orchestral elements and oftentimes more Funk inspired elements or soul inspired in terms of rhythm section,so yk technically a lot of similarities composition wise to Gentle Giant. Garage/Psych/Southern Rock/Prog/etc also kinda all blur together pretty fast lol.
Obviously a lot of elements of both European Folk Songs and African American Music in Psychedelia proper but Arthur Lee used different ones and sequenced it differently basically at least on other tracks. That being said still wouldn't quite consider it Prog yet but eh. Same goes for Beatles. I'd say Doors are closer to Garage.
You could be on to something. I do remember reading about JM encountering a lizard as a kid when he lived in New Mexico probably while chewing on a peyote button. He was magically transformed by this lizard and he wrote poetry that was later reconfigured into some of the lyrics used in a few Doors songs, Krieger penned most of the songs. Don't remember which songs Jim penned. He did recite some of his poetry on certain albums. Maybe the buttons were the reason he sang songs the way he did. Both bands were popular in 1967 the Doors started in 1965 and so did Love. I think if anything Love was influenced by the Doors (my opinion).
@@Fireneedsair Love was an excellent but obscure band with a fraction of the popularity The Doors had. Their careers are identically time-lined with each other. I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you.
It was released in January 1967 but was indeed recorded in 1966. A little known story is that while Neil Young was working on his very first record with "The Loner" and "The Old Laughing Lady," he and Jack Nitzsche helped produce this song but were left uncredited for legal reasons. This iteration of love would only last one album and they would pare down to the 5-man line-up that would soon help create the masterpiece, "Forever Changes," one of the greatest rock albums ever recorded.
Also probably one of the bluesier numbers. Arthur tended to avoid it in favor of a sort of mix of soul music and Midevil. Some Mariachi and some Classical too.
@@dacappo4804 unusual for a black composer from this time to actually take a serious intrest in Midevil music as well. Especially the more Germanic forms. The way he mixes it with Soul Music,RnB,and more "Sunshine/Flower "Pop"" type bands is incredibly classy and soothing while also not being at all like jazz. Almost like,more Soul Music than Soul Music. Obviously a ton of Jazz in this track though.
Not exactly true. On Love Da Capo they had the original 5 guys plus Michael Stuart on drums (snoopy moved to harpsichord) and TJ Cantrelli on sax and flute.
Saw Love at Winterland w/ Hare Krishnas outside chanting: ‘love’ should be free! Bill Graham finally relented & let them all in. Great song / Great band 💫
This is one of my all-time favorite songs. It captures the spirit of The Sunset Strip in the 60’s. Tjay, the outstanding woodwind guy, later played with Bunk Gardner and Jimmy Carl Black, from The Mother’s of Invention, in Geronimo Black. I saw them, and a bunch of other amazing groups and rock legends for $2.00 at the L.A. Free Clinic benefit concert, around 1972. Those cats kicked some serious booty. Anyway, how about that drum solo and harpsichord, possibly a Hohner Clavinet?!? Great song! Great comments by The Love Faithful! Great stories!The critics dropped the ball again! Love is hard to find, but when you discover it, everything changes! They were a paradigm shift!!! Forever Changes!!!
When I hear this song, I think of Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band’s “Mirror Man” album, which had long bluesy jams featuring harmonica, saxophone and dueling swirling guitars.
ALMOST TWENTY minutes, and released in 1966, thus preceding and surpassing Iron Butterfly's 17 minute opus epic "Ina Gadda Da Vida" from 1968 title LP. ;)
Innagaddadathrowupa is more like it. Iron Butterfly were WEAK when you listen to what The Dead were putting out night after night in 68-69... actually, this song reminds me of some of those jams the GD pulled out w Pigpen leading them on.
It was seen as some kind of rip-off of the Stones' 'Going Home". Love's original main influences were The Stones and The Byrds. You can hear that on their debut LP. Interestingly enough, "Revelation" and The Doors "The End" were, I believe, both recorded at Elektra studios with in a few weeks of each other. Two classic epics.
@@edwardwilson7858 dude, the stones apparently stole Goin' Home from Love, story goes they saw them live performing this song at one point in early 66 and chose to do the same.
@@ThePowerpointMaster According to many books, the Stones recorded Goin' Home in December of '65, at the same session Mother's Little Helper and 19th Nervous Breakdown were recorded. It was supposed to be a three and a half minute track but they let it roll on, excuse the pun. The Da Capo LP wasn't done until the summer of '66. Be well.
The mainstream music con mind con trol setup the young to fail wicked is right pushing evil is cool pushing gang rule no love do what thou wilt . Ya right is wrong . With the master sound beat to vibrate in ya . The great music still breathes. Its right here . Hey kids . hear this stuff for awhile . Let it do what we absorbed . Its beautiful .
Listen to Revelation in improvisational jazz perspective (Coltrane, Ornette,Ayler , Sanders) , then it’s not long. I see many missing the point of this song. Stones is definitely inspired by this , but Stones going home is not influenced by jazz while Love’s Revelation is.
This, along with the Stones Going Home and the Seeds Up In Her Room were attempts I feel at creating a Rock version of Bolero. At least that's what it seemed like to me. Of course that doesn't necessarily means that that's what Lee, et al were thinking.
I like the song but it was too long. If they could have trimmed it down to ten minutes and added two other good song the album would have been better. Nonetheless it’s a fun jam.
I’ve made an opinion about Love and the Doors w/ Jim M. I want it to be clear I absolutely appreciate both bands equally. After living in Austin almost 10 years I’ve noticed a couple of bands I support too this day that are in my opinion are excellent but they are struggling to get noticed. That’s when I learned about some of the politics. SRV had problems after ditching Bowie Let’s Dance tour. He did better eventually and was part of a Blues Review lead by Eric Clapton before the Crossroads era. He made it into the Rock Hall by fan votes 20 years after being eligible. The 2 bands I think should be much bigger. Spoon and Gary Clark Jr.
I saw on the vinyl album jacket cover a one sentence statement that read : Love uses Vox amplifiers and Mosrite guitars. I am under the impression that Arthur and company may have briefly tried these guitars and amps , tho did not stay with them. There are photographs of Arthur and company using Gibson L5s and Fender black panel (black faced) amps. As I heard said by the owner of Groove Tubes ; The Vox amplifier was licenced to be produced and marketed in America by Thomas organ company. (Tho these amplifiers were solid state. I don't believe Arthur and company would use a amplifier like that.
This tune here reminds me of one or two tunes by the doors, but this repetitive "feelalright" scream iz definately copied by iggy when was singing with the stooges! Its identical!
***** It has little to do with "stoned". It has a lot to do with being programmed by Top40 by the 2minute Pop song. This is not Pop. This is Art and lyrical Art at that. Meaningless? Quite the opposite as it tells a story... in this case it is about oral sex. You gonna hate on that? :)
Cool :) We are all a bit affected by the sheer amount of short songs in Pop and even TV Jingles. While I think it is overall a good thing that drunk driving laws became a higher priority, they surely did deal a blow to the Live music scene where not all bands bend to the confines of Pop sensibilities. Those critics you mention probably think Hendrix could have "pared down" Machine Gun
+Chris H - Glad you enjoyed that jab at those who think "finding the right note" is a search for amenable bank terms :) I try not to generalize especially about things as subjective as Art and Music since some jam songs are boring as gruel and some short songs r0x! I mean who can hate on "My Little Red Book" and "7 and 7 Is" ???
If the second side of the record was as insanely good as the first, it'd likely be tied as my favourite album of all time with Sgt. Pepper's... Instead, we get a Goin' Home copy-cat that's terribly uninteresting outside of the length and explicit lyrics for its time.
Yeah, but Going Home was inspired by this, after The Stones saw an early live rendition of Revelation while on tour. Love recorded their jam a while later, and are often dismissed as copycats by a certain type of people, but it is actually The Stones who ripped off, or tributed, depends on how you look at it, their fellow artists and get credited as being the edgy pioneers.
I remember when progressive FM stations would play 20 min. songs.Oh the good old days
19 minutes of sheer heaven. A masterpiece of music. Love matters!!!
Amazing that it wasn't edited down for a single..(to my knowledge)..
The extended Jazz Section is not my favorite. I like the version of Love that's kinda a hybrid of Garage rock with Soul Music,Funk,RnB and then also Eurofolk,Western Military,Classical and then Latin and Country more than the attempts to be a Jazz rock band on this album. That feels more like this really unique definitive incredibly roots l6 incredibly gritty Arthur Lee Approach like almost signature approach to me. Obviously really intresting and complex rhythm and melody systems in there. The Jazz Section on this feels morelike same old same old. 7 and 7 is,The Castle,and Stephanie know who are by far the strongest songs on the album. There are cool moments on this song but the extended Jazz number is generic and lacking and also quite frankly I just like Spul-Funk,European Folk Songs,Mariachi,Country Music,Western Military,and other ideas he was playing with more to begin. Comparatively more dates and less of that sort of timeless gritty folk/trad/roots type of sound.
I’m 68 years old and I heard this song for the first time a few days ago on SiriusXM radio and was blown away.
On the Deep Tracks channel, I bet?
Better late than never!!
@@rockyshore7017 What channel is that?? I must find.
Tjay Cantrelli rocks that Sax! Thank you Arthur Lee, your genius is remembered.
Saw them live when they were playing rec centers in the Los Angeles area and Hollywood. Lived on Sunset Bl. In the 65-66 era. All the biggies played the Strip. Byrds, Dylan, Doors, Buffalo Springfield... Pandoras Box, Whisky, Hulabaloo... Cool days indeed!!!! Les Derwood Smith 😳
I don't remember Dylan playing on the Strip, but I guess it could have slipped by me. Anyhow, I saw Cream at the Whisky right before they hit the big time. Now that was memorable. I don't know how it happened that I never saw Love - they were favorites of mine.
I was parking cars back than in area back than😎
Back in North Hollywood High School days we would sometimes be treated to a free concert in the gym performed by school alumni during afternoon school hours. One afternoon there's a concert in the gym and to my teenage amazement the band performing is Love! How or why this was happening was beyond me. Arthur Lee, that saxophone player, Tjay Cantrelli was memorable. Every cut on this album still makes me feel so good!
Wow! Thanks for sharing!
i love this piece, its distilled los angeles sunshine, it captures a groove, then stretches it and expands it till you get to that sweet spot. What a masterpiece, what a band of players
This lengthy virtuoso, along with East West from Paul Butterfield and The End from the Doors are what really got the ball rolling with epic prog / psychedelic music. These songs and the Beatles ‘ Revolver ‘ really set the tone in 1966, a significantly special year in rock history.
All of these are only considered Psychedelic interestingly enough even though Love attempted to remove The Blues Inspirations (here obviously not but overall) in favor of European Folk Music aswell as using heavy orchestral elements and oftentimes more Funk inspired elements or soul inspired in terms of rhythm section,so yk technically a lot of similarities composition wise to Gentle Giant. Garage/Psych/Southern Rock/Prog/etc also kinda all blur together pretty fast lol.
Obviously a lot of elements of both European Folk Songs and African American Music in Psychedelia proper but Arthur Lee used different ones and sequenced it differently basically at least on other tracks. That being said still wouldn't quite consider it Prog yet but eh. Same goes for Beatles. I'd say Doors are closer to Garage.
Imagine instead of releasing this, releasing the rest of the album, making it a EP, probably one of the best of all time...
Love are long overdue for the Rock Hall. Forever Changes wasn't their only good album...
I can hear where Jim Morrison got a lot of his singing influence from.
Not only his influence, but his record deal
You could be on to something. I do remember reading about JM encountering a lizard as a kid when he lived in New Mexico probably while chewing on a peyote button. He was magically transformed by this lizard and he wrote poetry that was later reconfigured into some of the lyrics used in a few Doors songs, Krieger penned most of the songs. Don't remember which songs Jim penned. He did recite some of his poetry on certain albums. Maybe the buttons were the reason he sang songs the way he did. Both bands were popular in 1967 the Doors started in 1965 and so did Love. I think if anything Love was influenced by the Doors (my opinion).
@@elbisnopserton9052 other way around
@@Fireneedsair
Love was an excellent but obscure band with a fraction of the popularity The Doors had.
Their careers are identically time-lined with each other.
I'm going to have to agree to disagree with you.
@@elbisnopserton9052 you could be right I guess.either way both excellent bands
Im 46 and am discovering this for the first time. (Sep. 2022) Loving it!
It was released in January 1967 but was indeed recorded in 1966. A little known story is that while Neil Young was working on his very first record with "The Loner" and "The Old Laughing Lady," he and Jack Nitzsche helped produce this song but were left uncredited for legal reasons. This iteration of love would only last one album and they would pare down to the 5-man line-up that would soon help create the masterpiece, "Forever Changes," one of the greatest rock albums ever recorded.
thanks for the info
It's actually the same band on the first 3 albums but just Arthur Lee with a backing band on later ones,with some members reappearing I think.
Also probably one of the bluesier numbers. Arthur tended to avoid it in favor of a sort of mix of soul music and Midevil. Some Mariachi and some Classical too.
@@dacappo4804 unusual for a black composer from this time to actually take a serious intrest in Midevil music as well. Especially the more Germanic forms. The way he mixes it with Soul Music,RnB,and more "Sunshine/Flower "Pop"" type bands is incredibly classy and soothing while also not being at all like jazz. Almost like,more Soul Music than Soul Music. Obviously a ton of Jazz in this track though.
Not exactly true. On Love Da Capo they had the original 5 guys plus Michael Stuart on drums (snoopy moved to harpsichord) and TJ Cantrelli on sax and flute.
Saw Love at Winterland w/ Hare Krishnas outside chanting: ‘love’ should be free! Bill Graham finally relented & let them all in. Great song / Great band 💫
This is one of my all-time favorite songs. It captures the spirit of The Sunset Strip in the 60’s. Tjay, the outstanding woodwind guy, later played with Bunk Gardner and Jimmy Carl Black, from The Mother’s of Invention, in Geronimo Black.
I saw them, and a bunch of other amazing groups and rock legends for $2.00 at the L.A. Free Clinic benefit concert, around 1972. Those cats kicked some serious booty.
Anyway, how about that drum solo and harpsichord, possibly a Hohner Clavinet?!?
Great song! Great comments by The Love Faithful! Great stories!The critics dropped the ball again!
Love is hard to find, but when you discover it, everything changes! They were a paradigm shift!!! Forever Changes!!!
WOW WHAT AN AMAZING GROOVY MUSIC IN ONE SONG !!!!!
One if the 60's classics that no-one ever covers.
The Stones covered it and called it “Goin Home” 😂
@user-pv8jy1nt8f Aftermath
I remember the first time I head this. I didnt expect it...and then blam. It changed the way I heard and plAyed music.
When I hear this song, I think of Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band’s “Mirror Man” album, which had long bluesy jams featuring harmonica, saxophone and dueling swirling guitars.
I Grow up with this stuff , Great music some of the best, remember Jimmy Hendrix sang some songs of theirs 😎
who's jimmy hendrix?
I LOVE this, I don't care what the doubters say.
used to take mind expanding substances...listened to this..Inna yadda DA Vida...going home...Suzy, Suzy creamcheese...oh those were the days
Jeffry Oliver who was the artist that made going home?
@@randalldickerson8567 stones in lip Aftermath
@@randalldickerson8567 Ten Years After "I'm Going Home"
ALMOST TWENTY minutes, and released in 1966, thus preceding and surpassing Iron Butterfly's 17 minute opus epic "Ina Gadda Da Vida" from 1968 title LP. ;)
Yes back to back with Ina Gadda Da Vida
Innagaddadathrowupa is more like it. Iron Butterfly were WEAK when you listen to what The Dead were putting out night after night in 68-69... actually, this song reminds me of some of those jams the GD pulled out w Pigpen leading them on.
IN A GARDEN OF EDAN
@@absolutelypositively TOo bad this was never an edited single lol.
@@captspock1 & Get Ready, Rare Earth..
Don't know why this continually gets put down. One of the true Love monsters.
It is a bit much in the middle, I mean I agree it's great but 19 minutes long...jeez.
Probably because of how good side one is.
It was seen as some kind of rip-off of the Stones' 'Going Home". Love's original main influences were The Stones and The Byrds. You can hear that on their debut LP.
Interestingly enough, "Revelation" and The Doors "The End" were, I believe, both recorded at Elektra studios with in a few weeks of each other. Two classic epics.
@@edwardwilson7858 dude, the stones apparently stole Goin' Home from Love, story goes they saw them live performing this song at one point in early 66 and chose to do the same.
@@ThePowerpointMaster According to many books, the Stones recorded Goin' Home in December of '65, at the same session Mother's Little Helper and 19th Nervous Breakdown were recorded. It was supposed to be a three and a half minute track but they let it roll on, excuse the pun. The Da Capo LP wasn't done until the summer of '66.
Be well.
this song slpit the musical atom YEAH!!!!!!!
The mainstream music con mind con trol setup the young to fail
wicked is right pushing
evil is cool pushing gang rule no love do what thou wilt .
Ya right is wrong .
With the master sound
beat to vibrate in ya .
The great music still breathes. Its right here .
Hey kids . hear this stuff for awhile .
Let it do what we absorbed .
Its beautiful .
My head exploded when I heard love again
Loooooooovvvvveeeeee 4ever!!
their best song!
I LOVE THIS SO BAAADD
Listen to Revelation in improvisational jazz perspective (Coltrane, Ornette,Ayler , Sanders) , then it’s not long. I see many missing the point of this song.
Stones is definitely inspired by this , but Stones going home is not influenced by jazz while Love’s Revelation is.
Thank you for sharing,
One pure super classic.
LEGENDARY LOVE
Thank you to the band
I remember the first time I head this. I didnt expect it...and then blam.
Bach - Gigue de partita No. 1 en Si bemol Mayor BWV 825
Like it 2019 is the year of the love revelation.
This song goes great with acid and a Red Bull.
Revelation!!
Nice stereo separation.
Somewhat like Paul Butterfields "East West" jam ,only with more "L"
Fucking awesome
yes, I remember now
Wow another song the Stones from
Groovy
This, along with the Stones Going Home and the Seeds Up In Her Room were attempts I feel at creating a Rock version of Bolero. At least that's what it seemed like to me. Of course that doesn't necessarily means that that's what Lee, et al were thinking.
11:43 Chewbacca?
+Adenozynotrifosforan that's funny!
Adenozynotrifosforan 😂😂😂
Yep, when Chewie was just a little tot. :)
Great band wow very impressed and I'm not being sarcastic
Nice 👍 drum solo
exelent
toppe
genial
the jam~! yerp!
wow just read that this is Johnny Echols on vocals, had no idea
I didn't know..always tohught of Arthur Lee..
it´s Arthur
Both !!
❤
Listen to this !! Oh you are ? I'll tiptoe out ...
I like the song but it was too long. If they could have trimmed it down to ten minutes and added two other good song the album would have been better. Nonetheless it’s a fun jam.
I’ve made an opinion about Love and the Doors w/ Jim M.
I want it to be clear I absolutely appreciate both bands equally.
After living in Austin almost 10 years I’ve noticed a couple of bands I support too this day that are in my opinion are excellent but they are struggling to get noticed.
That’s when I learned about some of the politics.
SRV had problems after ditching Bowie Let’s Dance tour.
He did better eventually and was part of a Blues Review lead by Eric Clapton before the Crossroads era.
He made it into the Rock Hall by fan votes 20 years after being eligible.
The 2 bands I think should be much bigger.
Spoon and Gary Clark Jr.
I saw on the vinyl album jacket cover a one sentence statement that read : Love uses Vox amplifiers and Mosrite guitars.
I am under the impression that Arthur and company may have briefly tried these guitars and amps , tho did not stay with them.
There are photographs of Arthur and company using Gibson L5s and Fender black panel (black faced) amps.
As I heard said by the owner of Groove Tubes ; The Vox amplifier was licenced to be produced and marketed in America by Thomas organ company. (Tho these amplifiers were solid state.
I don't believe Arthur and company would use a amplifier like that.
tuneeeeeeeeee
😁⭐
This tune here reminds me of one or two tunes by the doors, but this repetitive "feelalright" scream iz definately copied by iggy when was singing with the stooges! Its identical!
***** It has little to do with "stoned". It has a lot to do with being programmed by Top40 by the 2minute Pop song. This is not Pop. This is Art and lyrical Art at that. Meaningless? Quite the opposite as it tells a story... in this case it is about oral sex. You gonna hate on that? :)
Cool :) We are all a bit affected by the sheer amount of short songs in Pop and even TV Jingles. While I think it is overall a good thing that drunk driving laws became a higher priority, they surely did deal a blow to the Live music scene where not all bands bend to the confines of Pop sensibilities. Those critics you mention probably think Hendrix could have "pared down" Machine Gun
+Chris H - Glad you enjoyed that jab at those who think "finding the right note" is a search for amenable bank terms :) I try not to generalize especially about things as subjective as Art and Music since some jam songs are boring as gruel and some short songs r0x! I mean who can hate on "My Little Red Book" and "7 and 7 Is" ???
no its not about oral sex its about the moon loanding where buzz aldrin farted then jerked off !
If the second side of the record was as insanely good as the first, it'd likely be tied as my favourite album of all time with Sgt. Pepper's...
Instead, we get a Goin' Home copy-cat that's terribly uninteresting outside of the length and explicit lyrics for its time.
Yeah, but Going Home was inspired by this, after The Stones saw an early live rendition of Revelation while on tour. Love recorded their jam a while later, and are often dismissed as copycats by a certain type of people, but it is actually The Stones who ripped off, or tributed, depends on how you look at it, their fellow artists and get credited as being the edgy pioneers.
Improvisational jazz? Not a big fan, but Coltrane was more fun than this.
This is scandalously good !!!
I remember the first time I head this. I didnt expect it...and then blam. It changed the way I heard and plAyed music.
I remember the first time I head this. I didnt expect it...and then blam.
yes, I remember now