The Jewish scholars who interpreted the old testament Hebrew to the Greek when creating The Septuagint bible 200 years before Jesus was born translated that word virgin not maiden interestingly Isa. 7:14. I've read years ago that Isa. 7:14 is a double prophecy its two fold part pertained to Isaiah's predicament and the greater meaning was messianic. Zech 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son. Isaiah 53:5
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end.".....only the Messiah/Christ can fulfill this prophecy...Christ is the Everlasting Father of a new nation which He has brought forth by His sacrifice and resurrection...He is as well the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Prince of Peace and finally, His government is Everlasting...as only God's govt. can be.
Below is a quote in both English and Hebrew from the Hebrew bible regarding Isaiah 9:6 in the KJV, which is actually Isaiah 9:5 in the Hebrew bible. 'For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם: Notice the difference in the wording above from the Hebrew bible compared to the KJV, read it very carefully. Can you see how the wording in the KJV has been doctored & manipulated? This occurs quite a few times throughout the New Testament when quoting from the Hebrew bible, and this is just one example! Equally important, Isaiah is referring to a child that has already been born, (Past Tense). The Hebrew word ''יֻלַּד'' (Yulad) means ''was born'' (Past Tense) which shows this quite clearly and this word is used in other parts of the Hebrew bible to mean exactly that. See the following: Genesis 4:26, Genesis 35:26, Judges 18:29, Jeremiah 20:15, Psalms 87:5, Ruth 4:16-17 Also, the word ''וַיִּקְרָ֨א'' (Vayikra) means ''was called, or cried''. The word is used to refer to something that has already been named, Past Tense. See the following examples: Genesis 1:5, Genesis 3:20, Genesis 25:26, Isaiah 21:8, Isaiah 36:13 The New Testament tries to imply that the child mentioned in the verse is ''baby Jesus'', and is called ''Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.'', when in actual fact, the child is only called "the prince of peace" by the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Just to clarify what the Hebrew bible actually says, the child being spoken about is not ''the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father'', he is just "the prince of peace". In any case, even if the Christian translation of the verse were accurate, and that was the child's Divine name, it does not mean that the child is in fact G-d. There are quite a few examples in the Hebrew bible of people or things that are given Divine names but are obviously not G-d. See: Genesis 33:20, Exodus 17:15, Judges 6:24, Jeremiah 33:16, 1 Samuel 1:1, 1 Samuel 1:3, Judges 9:5, Exodus 21:6, Exodus 7:1. One has to read the whole of Isaiah chapter 9 in the correct context to understand it. So, who is the child (the prince of peace) that Isaiah is speaking about in chapter 9? Answer: King Hezekiah of Judah. He is the one who brings peace to the Jewish people with the miraculous help of G-d, (as of the day of Midian - Isaiah 9:3 & see 2 Kings 19:31-35 in Hebrew bible) by defeating the Assyrians who were threatening to destroy the kingdom of Judah.(the Jewish people) In conclusion, Isaiah chapter 9 is describing the miraculous victory of King Hezekiah and the Jewish people over the powerful Kingdom of Assyria at that time, similar to the miraculous victory of Gideon over the Midianites, alluded to in Isaiah 9:3 in the Hebrew bible. It is not speaking about a future event (Birth of Jesus)700 years later, it describes these events in the Past Tense. One does not speak about a future event in the Past Tense!
@@robmancuso964 @rob mancuso Wrong. Hezekiah wasn't the "everlasting Father". believe in Jesus or Perish. Pharaseetical Jews are so crazy, They wont eat cheeseburgers because " Don't boil a young goat(kid) in it's mothers milk". I hate the stupid man made tradtions of the pharasees. My Baptists taught all sorts of things against the Bible too. So dumb. Stop with stupid made up traditions, eat Cheeseburgers, Believe in Jesus or burn forever with daddy satan. SO STUPID!!!!!!! "In Exodus 23:29, it says, “Do not boil the milk of a child, nor the milk of another family”. That forbids the eating of meat and dairy. As an example, cheeseburgers cannot be eaten by Jews who follow these diet rules. It is usually observed that people wait up to six hours after dining meat before they drink dairy. THIS WAS A PAGAN PRACTICE, NOT SAYING YOU CANT EAT MEAT AND DAIRY. ITS TALKING ABOUT GOATS AND GOAT MILK ANWAYS, NOT COWS AHAHAH DUMB PHARASEES ARE SONS OF HELL.
@UCWrRiiIRqWvwFH-QUQ8HLlA It's quite obvious that you prefer to simply ignore the point I made in my previous comment, regarding how the wording in the Christian bible regarding Daniel 9:6 has been intentionally changed when compared to how it actually reads in the Hebrew Bible. Additionally, your comment makes it painfully obvious that you have absolutely no understanding of Kosher dietary laws at all! Christianity diminishes God into a finite, physical, fragile human being in the form of Jesus, as part of the Trinity/Godhead. The worship of any created form, whether human or otherwise, is Idolatry, plain and simple.
Anyway, if you want to be an idolater and worship a dead Jew instead of God, then good luck to you!
@@robmancuso964 According to your explanation and apply it to the scripture of Isaiah 9:6, are you saying that Isaiah is calling Hezekiah (13th king of Judah) "the mighty God, the everlasting Father"? And how does this explains the verses of Isaiah 9:1-2 when it talks about a great light shine on the land of Zebulun and Naphtali which was part of the Kingdom of Israel. The Kingdom of Israel has been conquered by the Assyrian Empire during the time of Hezekiah. Hezekiah didn't do everything to the land of Zebulun and Naphtali according to the scriptures. If any, it was God who killed the 185000 Assyrian soldiers saving the Kingdom of Judah. However, according to the New Testament, Jesus was raised up and starts his missionary at Galilee which is a city in between the land of Zebulun and Naphtali.
@@yathongtam5907 NO, you didn't read what I wrote properly! See paragraph below. The New Testament tries to imply that the child mentioned in the verse is ''baby Jesus'', and is called ''Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.'', when in actual fact, the child is ONLY called "the prince of peace" BY the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Just to clarify what the Hebrew bible actually says, the child being spoken about is NOT ''the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father'', he is JUST "the prince of peace".
Yiwan Ye That is idolatry! Numbers 23:19 God is not a human being, that he should lie, or a mortal, that he should change his mind. NRSV Jesus was a human being. Gd is NOT a human being.
Unto us a child is born" is a reference to king Hezekiah. It is not about Jesus. There is nothing evidently futuristic in Isaiah 9:6, and the verses are past tense (admittedly, a past tense does not rule out a future event, but to supply future tenses in a translated text, there should be evidence that a future is intended by the Hebrew writer). The child has already been born at the time of Isaiah's writing. King Hezekiah is described as one of the greatest kings that Judah ever had (2 Kings 18:5) because of his trust in the LORD. He is the harbinger of the light to the Gentiles and the Galileans who were being persecuted by the Assyrians (led by king Sargon). Hezekiah withstood their vast armies by virtue of his faith, despite being hugely outnumbered. The light (verse 2) is the light of God that he reflected on them through his faith and zeal. At any rate, turning to the epithets or descriptors in Isaiah 9:6, we find that NONE of them applies to Jesus, and the NT never indicates that they do. For example, Jesus was not called "everlasting Father". In Christian theology, Jesus is never the "Father", but the Son; calling Jesus "Father" would contradict the Trinity (If God intended any indication of Jesus in the verse, it would surely read "everlasting Son"). Jesus was also not called "prince of peace" either. On the contrary, in Matt. 10:32, he declares that he had not come to bring peace, but a sword. Jesus wasn't called by any of the other epithets in that verse, so they are a mismatch for him. The Hebrew word "Hezekiah" means "God is mighty" or "might of God". So Hezekiah's name is actually encoded in the verse ("his name is called mighty god"). In the verse Heszekaiah is "everlasting father" in the sense that his dynasty - which is the dynasty of David, his forefather - is everlasting. The verse is not saying that the man Hezekiah is everlasting, but that he is father of an everlasting dynasty - the dynasty of David.
Trinity contradicts itself. God said many times, there is only ONE Lord. The Father also said there is no other saviour but him so if Jesus isnt also the father then we're all in big trouble.
@@lisachambers3683 , note that there is no virgin birth prophesied in Is. 7:14. The word "virgin" used in many Christian versions (fortunately, not in all) in that verse is a MISTRANSLATION of the Hebrew word "almah", which means "young woman". The woman being referred to is Isaiah's young wife. It has nothing to do with Jesus.
With all due respect you seem like a nice guy but you make so so many mistakes here. As far as 7:14 how do you understand the context here at all? This is a sign that was to be given to Ahaz to assure him of a victory. The verse is clear this will happen in a few years, not 700 years later. What kind of a sign would that be to Ahaz now if it happened 700 years later?? I can't believe I even have to explain this. Are you aware that this whole chapter has zero to do with the messiah? The word almah is not an ambiguous word at all. It means young woman. If the intention was to describe a virgin birth, the word besula would have been used. Alma never means virgin anywhere in the whole bible. Are you aware this verse is in the present tense, not future? The baby had already been conceived. Are you aware 9:6 is in the past tense, not future? Are you are that this child who is Hezekiah is not in fact called a Mighty God? It is actually correctly translated Mighty God CALLED HIM Prince of Peace. Are you aware that verse 1 only says they will see a great light? It doesn't say this baby will make the light. Are you aware that there are dozens of names like Emmanuel that have God in the name? It's not a prophecy. It means God is with us and He always is. That's it. Elijah means God is our Lord. Is this a prophecy for something too? I don't blame you for all the mistranslations and all the distortions since this is what the nt and the church will tell you but just think a minute and you'll see the obvious lies and deception.
@@noahremnek3615 Actually it wasn't a title for THEM but a title to praise God. Isaiah 9:6 which is no doubt referring to Hezekiah. Guess what that means in hebrew. It means mighty God. It doesn't mean he was a God. It is just using a name to praise God every time the name is used. Elijah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and many many more are all the same thing.
@@nothingbutthetruth613 I left Christianity for Judaism when I found out about 80-90% of the prophecies Jesus fulfilled are mistranslations and/or out of context. I also found out that many things in the NT contradict the OT For example: Hebrews 9:22 “In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.” Psalm 40:6 “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire-- but my ears you have opened -- burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require” Hebrews 10:10 “And by that will, we have been made holy(A) through the sacrifice of the body(B) of Jesus Christ once for all.” Ezekiel 45:22 “On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land.” Romans 6:14 “For sin shall no longer be your master,(A) because you are not under the law,(B) but under grace.” Deuteronomy 29:29 “The secret things belong to the Lord our God,(A) but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.”
@@noahremnek3615 You're a smart man. Most people don't have the guts to face reality and admit that they have been duped their whole life so they continue to live a lie. You exhibit rare courage and are very admirable.
@@nothingbutthetruth613 I would ask my pastor questions but he would just dismiss them. He was more concerned about going to hell rather than knowing whether Christianity is true. Everyone told me to just accept Jesus and don’t ask questions. In Judaism I am encouraged to ask questions which I liked more.
@@MusicComposerZenki What about today? Today is December 26. Today is The Festival of St. Stephen, Deacon & Martyr (see Acts 6:8-7:2a, 51-60). Sad that the day after Jesus' birth, we commemorate the first person to die on this earth for Jesus. And Happy New Year.
I literally just watched a Jewish scholar try to deny the messianic prophecy of Jesus by referring to Hezekiah. Thank you for providing that argument of how that perspective is lacking. Great breakdown!
Sahad Ullah ooo look we got a fals believer 😂 in comments section. dm bible has so many errors. Watch this dabet between biggest scholars of christian. and dr zakir m.ua-cam.com/video/cvOvFys4G1k/v-deo.html watch this. debate : pastor Ruknuddin vs dk zakir. m.ua-cam.com/video/p97063SOtAA/v-deo.html
1) he quoted correctly the verse that starts with "For a child IS born to us",meaning the child had already been born during Isaiah time which is 700 years before Jesus. in the verse, the Hebrew word "YULAD" is past perfect tense meaning was born or is now born. however many mainstream christian translation say: "For a child will be born to us". that is a mis translation aiming to manipulate the text to fit the Jesus narrative. 2) "and he will be given the name" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew words "VA-YIKRA SHEMO" is past perfect or present tense meaning is/was called. if you dont believe me go to Leviticus Chapter 1:1 look how the first word in the verse -VA-YIKRA (וַיִּקְרָ֖א). you will see it is translated in the christian bible in the past tense which is a correct translation, while in Isaiah 9:5 they changed the same word to the future tense. 3) Isaiah is talking about the great miracle of the destruction of the Assyrian army during Hezekiah, the king reigning during Isaiah time. the name Hezekiah contains two Hebrew words. first word "HAZAK" means Mighty second word "YAHO" means god. Hezekiah is called "Wonder of a Counsellor" because he counselled the Jewish people in Jerusalem, persuading them to repent for their sins and put their trust in god. and because they did as he counselled them, 185,000 of Assyrian soldiers surrounding Jerusalem were wiped out (II Chronicles 31 and 32). Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life and also because the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule (Isaiah 39:8; 2 Chronicles 32:23). 4) "dominion will rest on his shoulders" - the original Hebrew is in the present tense " VA-TEHI" (is upon): "and the government is upon his shoulder" again, Isaiah speak about someone living in his time. in any case, Jesus died as a criminal under roman government. Hezekiah held the government of Judea on his shoulders. 5) "in order to extend the dominion" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew word "MISRA" translate to "government" not dominion, a specifically Political role. Jesus was never a politician, Hezekiah was. 6) "and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David" - Jesus or his church never perpetuate peace. Hezekiah on the other hand did - "peace reigned for the rest of his life" (2 Chronicles 32:23) 7) "to secure it (the kingdom of David) and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever". did Jesus do that? absolutely not. things only went down hill for Judea since before the time of Jesus and after him. Hezekiah on the other hand cleansed the temple and his kingdom from idolatry and he is considered the most righteous Jewish king that ever lived. 8) The zeal of Adonai - Tzva’ot will accomplish this. Adonai - Tzva’ot means the lord of host. god of host was the one who destroyed the Assyrian army during Hezekiah conflict with king of Assyria. this prophecy speak of how god accomplished peace and security to Judea, but according to your religion god punished Judea because of Jesus. these are the points that prove beyond any doubt that Isaiah cant be speaking about Jesus. if your going to tell me that Isaiah was speaking about the second coming of Jesus, well im sorry, im not going to wait another 2000 years for this baseless interpretation to come true. you've been lied to. if you believe in the word of god then all you have is the Torah. not the mistranslated manipulated christian bible, not the new testament, not the book of Mormons and not the Quran.
nowhere in the NT ia Jesus called "mighty god", only few names in all the bible mean mighty god. one name is Hezekiah \ Hizke (mighty)-yahu(god) \Hebrew: חִזְקִיָּהוּ. the others are Gabriel and Ezekiel. also not gods. 1) he quoted correctly the verse that starts with "For a child IS born to us",meaning the child had already been born during Isaiah time which is 700 years before Jesus. in the verse, the Hebrew word "YULAD" is past perfect tense meaning was born or is now born. however many mainstream christian translation say: "For a child will be born to us". that is a mis translation aiming to manipulate the text to fit the Jesus narrative. 2) "and he will be given the name" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew words "VA-YIKRA SHEMO" is past perfect or present tense meaning is/was called. if you dont believe me go to Leviticus Chapter 1:1 look how the first word in the verse -VA-YIKRA (וַיִּקְרָ֖א). you will see it is translated in the christian bible in the past tense which is a correct translation, while in Isaiah 9:5 they changed the same word to the future tense. 3) Isaiah is talking about the great miracle of the destruction of the Assyrian army during Hezekiah, the king reigning during Isaiah time. the name Hezekiah contains two Hebrew words. first word "HAZAK" means Mighty second word "YAHO" means god. Hezekiah is called "Wonder of a Counsellor" because he counselled the Jewish people in Jerusalem, persuading them to repent for their sins and put their trust in god. and because they did as he counselled them, 185,000 of Assyrian soldiers surrounding Jerusalem were wiped out (II Chronicles 31 and 32). Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life and also because the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people (Isaiah 38:5). Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule (Isaiah 39:8; 2 Chronicles 32:23). 4) "dominion will rest on his shoulders" - the original Hebrew is in the present tense " VA-TEHI" (is upon): "and the government is upon his shoulder" again, Isaiah speak about someone living in his time. in any case, Jesus died as a criminal under roman government. Hezekiah held the government of Judea on his shoulders. 5) "in order to extend the dominion" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew word "MISRA" translate to "government" not dominion, a specifically Political role. Jesus was never a politician, Hezekiah was. 6) "and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David" - Jesus or his church never perpetuate peace. Hezekiah on the other hand did - "peace reigned for the rest of his life" (2 Chronicles 32:23) 7) "to secure it (the kingdom of David) and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever". did Jesus do that? absolutely not. things only went down hill for Judea since before the time of Jesus and after him. Hezekiah on the other hand cleansed the temple and his kingdom from idolatry and he is considered the most righteous Jewish king that ever lived. 8) The zeal of Adonai - Tzva’ot will accomplish this. Adonai - Tzva’ot means the lord of host. god of host was the one who destroyed the Assyrian army during Hezekiah conflict with king of Assyria. this prophecy speak of how god accomplished peace and security to Judea, but according to your religion god punished Judea because of Jesus. these are the points that prove beyond any doubt that Isaiah cant be speaking about Jesus. if your going to tell me that Isaiah was speaking about the second coming of Jesus, well im sorry, im not going to wait another 2000 years for this baseless interpretation to come true. you've been lied to. if you believe in the word of god then all you have is the Torah. not the mistranslated manipulated christian bible, not the new testament, not the book of Mormons and not the Quran.
@Abraham Mani NO that's blasphemy. Jesus infact did not fulfill any prophesies. The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures. .STOP DECEIVING people.
This guy is so blind he's saying the truth but doesn't see it. Hezekiah was the prince of peace. This was not a prophecy but a sign " unto us a child is born " he was born in the time of Isaiah. Don't be fooled by this old man
It's not "a virgin", but "THE YOUNG WOMAN". it's talking about the wife of Achaz. Keep reading chapter 7 and you'll realize that this is a sign for Achaz to see. It makes no sense for it to happen 600 years later when Achaz would be long dead...
You are absolutely right. This Isaiah 7:14 has nothing to do with Jesus. In fact Jesus never fulfilled any prophesies. This man is trying to defend the lies the new testament. It is well dressed lie. ..The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures. .
@@ilscatiii4977 Proverbs 30:18-19: 18 There are three things that are too amazing for me, four that I do not understand: 19 the way of an eagle in the sky, the way of a snake on a rock, the way of a ship on the high seas, and the way of a man with a young woman (ALMAH). The author is saying that the things a young couple might face in life are mysterious, something that can't be predicted. So this ALMAH is a married woman! She just happens to be young.
@@ilscatiii4977 one thing won't cancel the other. "Young woman" is a pretty broad term, it can mean a child, it can mean a 20 year old woman, which is still, considered young. The word "ALMAH" עלמה comes from "Alum" עלום, which means "youth, youthful vigour". Also, ALMAH is female of ALEM, עלם and we see in scripture, King Shaul referring to David as "Alem" on 1 Samuel 17:56. It is also written that David had killed a lion and a bear, a child could not have done that. Well, you believe that Mary is the "young woman" of the prophecy, right? I guess you don't believe that Mary was a underage girl.
@@ilscatiii4977 the fact you're saying that they are committing adultery simply proves you're not interpreting text correctly. The text only means to say that just like these four things are unpredictable, also the way of the adulteress woman in unpredictable. Btw, adultery can only happen when a woman is married (in biblical times, a man could have more than a wife). So even if you consider that the adulteress woman is this "ALMAH", you still have to admit she's married!!! Well coming up with a modern dictionary to explain ancient hebrew scriptures is pretty anachronistic. Almah comes from Alum (youth). The main goal of usage of the word is to refer to someone who's young, not someone who's virgin (even though it might be a virgin, it's not what the word is focusing on).
Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus is Lord. Psalms 110:1 David calls Him Lord of my Lord. Then go to Mathew 22:41-46 He speaks to those who rejected Him and to you who continue to reject Him.
Question doesn't arise because the man named Jesus never existed. The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures.
1 Peter 2:7-8 7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, 8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Isaiah 9:6 isn’t even quoted in the New Testament. Later Christians claimed this talked about Jesus. According to Judaism, the answer is in the names chosen. The name ‘Hezekiah’ which in Hebrew is ‘Chizkiyah’ comes from the words ‘chazak’ and ‘Ya.’ ‘Chazak’ means ‘strong’ or ‘mighty’ and ‘Ya’ is the shortened name for Gd used as a suffix. Many might recognize the Ya’ in the word, ‘halleluyah’ which means,’praise Gd.’ Judaism believes that Isaiah 9:6-7 refers to Hezekiah, who reigned for almost 30 years. The name Hezekiah, Chizkiyah, is the same name in meaning, as one finds in the verses from Isaiah 9:6-7, a ‘Mighty Gd.’ Christians are fond of using Isaiah 9:6 as a “proof text” for the messiahship and deity of Jesus. Context is important to reading scripture, especially prophecy. What is the book of Isaiah, of whom does the prophet speak in it’s chapters? Isa 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD hath spoken: Only one person in the jewish scriptures is referred to as “mighty god” and his name is Hizkiyyahu or, Hezekiah (mighty god) Hezekiah - Hizkiyyahu or Hizkiyyah - Among Hezekiah’s first acts was the repair of the Temple, which had been closed during the reign of Ahaz. He reorganized the services of the priests and Levites, purged the Temple and its vessels, and opened it with imposing sacrifices (2 Chronicles 29:3-36). He resolved to abolish what the Hebrew Bible refers to as idolatry from his kingdom, and among other things that he did to this end, he destroyed the high places (or bamot) and “bronze serpent” (or “Nehushtan”), recorded as being made by Moses according to the command of God (Numbers 21:8), which became an object of idolatrous worship. In place of this, he centralized the worship of God at the Jerusalem Temple. Hezekiah also resumed the Passover pilgrimage and the tradition of inviting the scattered tribes of Israel to take part in a Passover festival. He also sent messengers to Ephraim and Manasseh inviting them to Jerusalem for the celebration of the Passover. The messengers, however, were not only not listened to, but were even laughed at; only a few men of Asher, Manasseh, and Zebulun came to Jerusalem. Nevertheless the Passover was celebrated with great solemnity and such rejoicing as had not been in Jerusalem since the days of Solomon. Hezekiah is portrayed by the Hebrew Bible as a great and good king. He is one of the few kings praised so highly as to have “trusted in the Lord the God of Israel; so that there was no one like him among all the kings of Judah after him, or among those who were before him” (2 Kings 18:5). The Talmud (Bava Batra 15a) credits Hezekiah with overseeing the compilation of the biblical books of Isaiah, Proverbs, Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes. According to Jewish tradition, the victory over the Assyrians and Hezekiah’s return to health happened at the same time, the first night of Passover. Hezekiah’s “success” is mitigated just a verse later: “In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them” (2 Kgs 18:13). Hezekiah then apologizes to the Assyrian king and agrees to pay whatever tribute is imposed, including “silver” and “gold” from “the temple of the Lord” (2 Kgs 18:14-15). In addition, both Hezekiah himself (2 Kgs 19:4) and Isaiah (2 Kgs 19:30-31) refer to “the surviving remnant of the house of Judah.” Although the storyline in 2 Kings precedes the miraculous rescue of Jerusalem in center stage (2 Kgs 18:17-19:37), 2 Kgs 18:13-16 are important verses that might go overlooked. But other passages elsewhere in the Bible, namely Micah’s lament for these destroyed cities of Judah, make sure that the readers of the Bible do not forget those outlying towns that were not as fortunate as the capital city of Jerusalem (Mic 1:1-16). Sennacherib’s Prism claims that he had taken captive “200,150 people” and had “diminished his land.” And the wall relief of the siege of Lachish in Sennacherib’s palace in Nineveh graphically illustrates the cruel terror with which the Assyrians repay their rebels, as does the archaeology of Lachish itself. When did Jesus ever run any government? When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime. Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names. First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not. Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be: …and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’ This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’ But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t? In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father. And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39] Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32] In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same? Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17] How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
Isa. 7:14 & 9:6 refer both to the children in Isaiah's day and to the Messiah. A double prophesy. But Christ is not Jehovah. He is "el gibbor," a mighty hero!
“The verb ‘to be’ is used differently, in what is presumably its basic meaning of ‘be in existence’, in John 8:58: (the Greek words) “prin Abraam genesthai ego eimi,” would be most naturally translated ‘I have been in existence since before Abraham was born,’ if it were not for the obsession that some have with the simple words ‘I am.’ If we take the Greek words in their natural meaning, as we surely should, the claim to have been in existence for so long is, in itself, a staggering one, and quite enough to provoke the crowd’s violent reaction.” In other words, Jesus didn’t have to claim to be “God” in order for the Jews to try to stone him. Simply claiming such longevity and of, therefore, being greater than Abraham was more than enough to provoke them. @@Modestcrusader_7
If this is true, why do you have to change the Hebrew verbs from past (perfect tense) to future (imperfect tense) to prove your claim? For example, the word Vayikra is past tense, "was called", NOT will be called. And why in Isaiah 7:14 would you change "the" young woman to "A" virgin. What happened to the definite article? You distort the word of God and then want me to believe in Jesus?
@Abraham Mani Dear Mr Mani, Where does Moshe tell about a prophet?? The only place he mentions such a fellow is in Deuteronomy 13 and that person is supposed to be executed. Isaiah 7:14 is a terrible mistranslation; KJV: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. The Hebrew reads: לָ֠כֵן יִתֵּ֨ן אֲדֹנָ֥י ה֛וּא לָכֶ֖ם אֹ֑ות הִנֵּ֣ה הָעַלְמָ֗ה הָרָה֙ וְיֹלֶ֣דֶת בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥את שְׁמֹ֖ו עִמָּ֥נוּ אֵֽל׃ The correct translation will be: "Therefore, my Lord Himself will give you (Achaz, who lived about 600 years before Jesus) a sign (sign and not a miracle); behold a maiden (the wife of Isaiah himself [if you'd bother to read the context the child is actually mentioned in chapter 8]) will become pregnant and bear a son, and you will name him Immanuel." So in context Achaz is afraid of Aram and Israel (the northern kingdom) they are ready to attack Judah. Achaz is afraid that he will be run over and be taken captive (or worse). Isaiah tell him, not to worry. There will be a sign, a child will be born. By the time this child will know to differentiate between good and evil (I imagine before the child comes of age), these two kings (who are at the verge of attacking you, will be abandoned (Isaiah 7:16). It is clearly not speaking about an event that takes place 600 or 700 years later. That has no relevance to the whole chapter. Isaiah 9 incidentally speaks about a Messianic figure (the forefathers of the Messiah are called Messianic figures) it is speaking about the most righteous king known to Judah, Hezekiah. The translation of the KJV is as follows: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." The correct translation from Hebrew will be: "For a child has been born to us, a son has been given to us, and the dominion will rest on his shoulders; The Wondrous Adviser (G-d Himself), Mighty G-d (couldn' be clearer) Eternal Father, called his name Prince of Peace" So the KJV corrupted the translation. They say He "will" call his name etc, but the Hebrew is in the past tense. So it couldn't be speaking about Jesus.
@Abraham Mani Dear Sir, What I don't understand from your words (with due respect) is that you are professing not to argue with Scriptures in Torah. Your words are very unclear to me. You say: “When Jesus was on earth He cast out demons and it is happening in this 2020.You will say demons are being delivered by their own cheif. Right? If you believe so may I ask you?How can a Kingdom destroy by their own guys?” Which chief? Which Kingdom? With all due respect sir, since when are miracles a proof that something is of substance? Miracles of Jesus. Do they proof anything about his divinity? If you'd say yes, then why don't you reckon with the miracles that Krishnah does every day? There are loads of people in India and Indonesia who believe that Krishnah appeared to them and performed a miracle. They were healed in some cases. Thus this constitute a proof to their divinity? The Torah says in Deuteronomy 13 quite the opposite. “If a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams… give you a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder comes to pass, saying, ‘let us worship other gods’… you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer because the Lord your God is testing you” Here the Torah very clearly tells us that anybody who gives a sign or does a wonder and tells to do something that contradicts the Jewish Scriptures, that person is a fraud. Now hear, I watched a video of this Mark Heman. You can slap as in the face with miracles all day, but that is not a proof. Specifically because of what is written in the aforementioned passage. The Lord your God is testing you. He wants to see if you hold on to the true monotheistic religion. Belief in Jesus is contradicting the Torah and prophets. Besides my friend. I gave very clear answers why the words which you mentioned regarding Isaiah were not any proof. For sure these things come like a shock for many Christians. But what many Christians belief and say is that Christianity is simply Judaism+Messiah (Jesus). But this is a big MISTAKE. The theology of Judaism and Christianity are totally incompatible. If you sincerely want to understand this better you are welcome to contact me.
@Abraham Mani Giving signs and miracles is NOT a proof that somebody is the Messiah. Why should I bother answering if you don't absorb anything or at least answer the arguments I gave??
@Abraham Mani Jesus did NOTHING of what the Jewish prophets said that the Messiah would do. There is no substance to what his honor is saying. Please come with arguments not with verses from the NT which have no value to Jews.
Acts 28:26 Paul states what the prophet Isaiah said to the israelites by God. God the Father said this to the stubborn children of Israel in Isa. 6: 9-10. In Matt. 13: 14-15 God the Son quoted these words to the Jews who rejected him. And now God the Spirit, through the apostle, repeated them to the people who had a hardened heart. This indicates that in each move of the Divine Trinity the children of Israel were disobedient to the God of grace, therefore, He turned to the Gentiles to carry out His New Testament economy in the propagation of His kingdom for the edification of the churches through the propagation of the risen and ascended Christ (v. 28).
Stop deceiving please! Why don't you read the text in the original text ... In Hebrew And you'll have a very different signification . Always twisting signication of words to suit your pagan belief of trinity. The first one concerned, Jesus, never proclaimed to be God worthy of worship and you'll find non verse from Him verbatim in the Bible. You have verses lost in translation and other ones twisted in translation.
There is no prophecy of a "virgin" birth in Isaiah 7:14, and the speaker should not be sowing this confusion! The word that Isaiah uses there is "almah", and that word just means "young woman" (neither more nor less). If Isaiah had meant to imply a virigin, he would have used the Hebrew word "bethulah". Christians, please, enough of your dishonesty! Moreover, the "sign" that Isaiah gives to Ahaz is not a mysterious birth, but that before the child (already conceived and gowing in the young woman's womb) is old enough to distinguish good from evil, then Ahaz's enemy kings will have been destroyed. That will be the sign to prove to king Ahaz that Isaiah is a true prophet from God, whom he can trust. READ THE CONTEXT!
In those days, using the term "almah" , young woman, implied virgin...Else, just woman would have been appropriate. In our day and age, even ig going back a few hundred years, "young woman" would not necessarily imply "virgin"..hence the new translations would use "vergin" in order to hold on to the actual meaning and implications of the prophecy.
@@jacksteiner8842 , that still doesn't make the verse a virgin birth prophecy! Moreover, you should read the context of the chapter, which has nothing to do with the time of Jesus (it's about invasion by the king of Assyria and Egypt), and the "sign" is given to Ahaz, which he will be able to verify (he wouldn't be ble to verify a virigin birth!). The sign is that before the soon to be born son is old enopugh to distinguish right from wrong, the two enemy kings of Ahaz will be defeated. So the sign is the defeat of the enemy kings, and its fulfilment will give Ahaz proof that Isaiah is a prophet from God. The sign is not a virgin birth! Don't Christians ever want to read context? You want to wrench verses out of context, and even mistranslate them in your versions.
@@psandbergnz, you mentioned context, and I think that is what you are actually missing. From chapter 1 of the book of Isaiah we learn that Judah is corrupt. God commands Isaiah to call them to repentance...From Ch 1. 16, we read how the Lord pleads with Judah to cease to do evil....this is then followed by the Lord beginning to warn Judah of His disgust for what they do...From chapter 2 , we begin to sense that God is not going to leave Judah, but Ch 2.vs 2 - now it shall come to pass in the latter days....note vs. 3 and 4....Many people shall come and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord...He will teach us His ways...we shall walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law...4 He shall judge between nations, and rebuke many people....This continues with what He is going to do in the future...But then in Ch 6 - Isaiah volunteers to be sent by God, and as you read ch 7 we can almost hear the prophet Isaiah ask "Lord, how long?"... and the Lord answers from vs 11 to 13, closing the verse with "So the holy seed shall be its stump." Now Paul, ask yourself...does the context seem to be simply one regarding the immediate troubles of King Ahaz? absolutely not..
@@psandbergnz you mentioned context.?!....what you are actually missing is context. From chapter 1 of the book of Isaiah we learn that Judah is corrupt. God commands Isaiah to call them to repentance...From Ch 1. 16, we read how the Lord pleads with Judah to cease to do evil....this is then followed by the Lord beginning to warn Judah of His disgust for what they do...From chapter 2 , we begin to sense that God is not going to leave Judah, but Ch 2.vs 2 - now it shall come to pass in the latter days....note vs. 3 and 4....Many people shall come and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord...He will teach us His ways...we shall walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law...4 He shall judge between nations, and rebuke many people....This continues with what He is going to do in the future...But then in Ch 6 - Isaiah volunteers to be sent by God, and as you read ch 7 we can almost hear the prophet Isaiah ask "Lord, how long?"... and the Lord answers from vs 11 to 13, closing the verse with "So the holy seed shall be its stump." Now Paul, ask yourself...does the context seem to be simply one regarding the immediate troubles of King Ahaz? Please do read all those chapters...they are amazing prophecy...I will continue after you respond..
The prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 taught my fathers the ancient Israelites that the Mashiach who was to be born is YHWH GOD the Everlasting Father manifested in flesh and this is what the Lord Jesus Christ taught (John 14:9) and that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Father also emerges clearly when comparing John 2:19-21 and Galatians 1:1.
isiah 9:6 does not refer to jesus christ, read the full scripture in context, it had already happened. The word you refer to does not mean virgin, many names means many things, like ishmael means God hears, stop misquoting scripture
The Jewish scholars who interpreted the old testament Hebrew to the Greek when creating The Septuagint bible 200 years before Jesus was born translated that word virgin not maiden interestingly Isa. 7:14. I've read years ago that Isa. 7:14 is a double prophecy its two fold part pertained to Isaiah's predicament and the greater meaning was messianic.
Yeah sure still in 200 years after a son born the peoples of Israel’s rejected him and he crucified wounded because came from the line of David king and peoples followed him as a leader… also made new rules and laws like a king… 😂😂😂
"The word you refer to does not mean virgin, many names means many things, " The word is not a NAME, it is a simple noun, which can mean young woman or it can mean virgin, depending on the context. The word given to Ahaz is about a miraculous sign. There is no miracle in a young woman conceiving a child.
John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and for Him. Jesus is Lord!
Isaiah 9:1 is not a prophecy of Jesus' futur ministry, and there is no implication of a future event prophesied. For once, the KJV provides us an accurate translation fronm the Hebrew: Isaiah 9:1 (KJV): "Nevertheless the gloom will not be upon her who is distressed, As when at first He lightly esteemed The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, And afterward more heavily oppressed her, By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan, In Galilee of the Gentiles." The NIV MISTRANSLATES this verse as a futuristic prophecy: "Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan- in Galilee of the Gentiles." BUT THERE IS NO FUTURE TENSE IN BIBLICAL HEBREW, AND NONE IMPLIED IN THAT VERSE. SO TELL ME, CHRISTIANS, USING THE KJV, HOW ARE YOU SHOEHORNING JESUS INTO THAT VERSE? WHERE IS IT EVEN PROPHESYING A MESSIAH TO COME? THERE IS NOTHING FUTURISITC IN THAT VERSE IN ANY CORRECT TRANSLATION.
You are absolutely right. Christians do not understand the meaning of Isaiah chapter 7, because they do not read the full chapter, they just depend on what others or Pastors teach them.
@@sakellarioudimitris7439 , the original Septuagint only comprised the first five books of the Tenakh (often called the Torah). The Greek version of Isaiah is not part of the Septuagint, but a later addition to it, which was highly edited and redacted by the early Church. So reading your alleged Septuagint translation is not useful.
@@psandbergnz rabbinic Jews have a Talmudic response to everything and cannot go outside of that realm. Daniels messianic prophecy of when the messiah would be born and die is denied by you guys lol
@@armyinfantry11b , the Talmud is certainly dear to the Jews. You claimed that in the book of Daniel, there is prophesied "when the messiah would be born and die". I disasgree! I suppose you are claiming this friom Daniel 9: 24-27. Please enlighten me WHEN Daniel claims that "the messiah" will be born and die, and how you are arriving at those years. Let's see if you can! Bear in mind that all the events prophesied in Daniel chapter 9, including the destruction of the temple (which happened in 70 CE) were to be accomplished within the "70 weeks of years" (= 490 years). So you need the starting year of the prophecy for your calculation - what is it? Btw, Daniel does not mention "the messiah" ("hamashiach"), but "a messiah", which means an "anointed one". Priests and kings are messiahs in the Bible, since they are anointed (same word, "mashiach"). But please show me how the year of the birth and death of a messiah is revealed in Daniel chapter 9 or elsewhere.Thanks.
This debate on this has been going on a long time. The Hebrew word in Isaiah did not mean virgin it meant young woman. The writer of the Gospel of Matthew changed the word to virgin.
Young women indeed virgin… but the point a child is given a son is given the prince of peace… The second temple destroyed near 2000 years ago so if not Jesus the prophet then it’s mean no one is which mean judaism is just imagination so there is no god for them…
Alma is not ambiguous at all! It means young woman. Certainly not virgin. Virgin is always Besulah in Hebrew. Turn to Proverbs 30:20: "This is the way of an adulterous woman: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.'" The word for young woman is alma over here. An adulterous young woman. Hardly a virgin. You are not honest (or mislead) if you say alma is ambiguous.
That would still serve both the immediate fulfillment and the Messianic. But do I understand that Isaiah already had a son, the first one you named? That would make him writing literal 'virgin' ('bethulah?') a little odd. But the oddness would be a testimony toward a later fulfillment, too. I heard that the Qumran community expected a virgin born Messiah.
You all know the only man came after Jesus and and people called him peace father(peace mean islam) he is The prophit mohammed He is the prince of peace and if continue to read the Isaiah chapter 42/ from 1_17 every thing it's clear 🌹
@@eddiemonesti5671 These signs indicate that he is the man. If you ask any one how is the father of Islam ( Islam mean salam mean peace) they will told you he is Mohammed. This is just reminding to you and for all people if you want take it or don't you free my friend but in the end of life you will remember me brother. Wish you good days in your life 🌹
If you keep denying Christ, you are denying yourself life everlasting. Read the New Testament and determine for yourself. Become our flock, and your sins will be cleansed by the blood of the Holy Lamb. - Isaiah 53:12 - 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
HOW ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH CAN ANYONE WITH BRAIN CELLS SAY HEZAKIAH WAS THE "EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE, WONDERFUL COUNSELOR" that is so brain damaged demonic deceptive garbage.
Context is Isaiah said a child and son born who take the throne of David and Israel and make it right FOREVER! So give us an eternal king who is sinless… Also said god revelead himself The man reject him transgender him wound him and by that wound we will heal! He will give his life and by his death we we heal! Sorry too big bullshit what you want to give us! Historically Jesus was crucified cause peoples of Israel rejected him and the world litereally learned the forgiveness while you guys had only the eye for eye law! While the world learned what forgiveness is… it is just too big same story from a book what written 200 years before the HISTORICAL EVENTS!
In the original Hebrew text! Isaiah did not use the word "virgin", but rather "young woman". In the Greek Bible that the New Testament authors were using, it was mistranslated as "virgin". 100% human error.
Septuagint came before Masoretic and Septuagint says “virgin “ not “young woman” lol.. Septuagint predates the masoretic by thousands of years so it’s more accurate
@@quicksilver7532 Yes, the Septuagint says "virgin", but the Septuagint is a GREEK translation, and not the original Hebrew that Isaiah was written in. In the original Hebrew, it does not say virgin. When Matthew was writing his Gospel, he used the mistranslated Greek text that said "virgin" instead of Hebrew that said "young woman".
@@quicksilver7532 You're wrong on multiple counts. The dead sea scrolls predate our earliest greek translation of Isaiah and it corroborates the msoretic text's rendering of the word as Alma. So the septuagint is not more accurate with respect to Isaiah 7:14. The DSS Isaiah scroll is designed "1QIsa" if you want to look it up. Also, the Septuagint does not predate the masoretic text by thousands of years. The oldest known masoretic text is the Aleppo codex from around the year 930. For a greek translation to predate that by thousands of years it would at least have to date to around 1070BC, which is just absurd. The original LXX (which was ONLY five books of Moses and did not include Isaiah) wasn't even translated until the around the second century BC. All we have are a few tiny greek fragments that predate the first century, none of which contain Isaiah.
Isaiah 53 1 Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? 2 He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. 3 He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted. 5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. 8 By oppression [1] and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken. [2] 9 He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes [3] his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand. 11 After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light [of life] [4] and be satisfied [5] ; by his knowledge [6] my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, [7] and he will divide the spoils with the strong, [8] because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Some people say it was Hezekiah. but read the Book of Judges regarding the Angel who appeared to Samson's parents: His name is Wonderful. Now go back to the Child's name in book of Isaiah: He will be called Wonderful; Mighty God; Everlasting Father. No one calls Hezekiah those names. Hezekiah cried and prayed to Yahweh when King Sennacherib is about to obliterate Jerusalem. because it is their last stand. that israel will become history like Sodom and Gomorrah. So Hezekiah is not that child they are talking about.😊
Isaiah 9:6 isn’t even quoted in the New Testament. Later Christians claimed this talked about Jesus. According to Judaism, the answer is in the names chosen. The name ‘Hezekiah’ which in Hebrew is ‘Chizkiyah’ comes from the words ‘chazak’ and ‘Ya.’ ‘Chazak’ means ‘strong’ or ‘mighty’ and ‘Ya’ is the shortened name for Gd used as a suffix. Many might recognize the Ya’ in the word, ‘halleluyah’ which means,’praise Gd.’ Judaism believes that Isaiah 9:6-7 refers to Hezekiah, who reigned for almost 30 years. The name Hezekiah, Chizkiyah, is the same name in meaning, as one finds in the verses from Isaiah 9:6-7, a ‘Mighty Gd.’ Christians are fond of using Isaiah 9:6 as a “proof text” for the messiahship and deity of Jesus. Context is important to reading scripture, especially prophecy. What is the book of Isaiah, of whom does the prophet speak in it’s chapters? Isa 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD hath spoken: Only one person in the jewish scriptures is referred to as “mighty god” and his name is Hizkiyyahu or, Hezekiah (mighty god) Hezekiah - Hizkiyyahu or Hizkiyyah - Among Hezekiah’s first acts was the repair of the Temple, which had been closed during the reign of Ahaz. He reorganized the services of the priests and Levites, purged the Temple and its vessels, and opened it with imposing sacrifices (2 Chronicles 29:3-36). He resolved to abolish what the Hebrew Bible refers to as idolatry from his kingdom, and among other things that he did to this end, he destroyed the high places (or bamot) and “bronze serpent” (or “Nehushtan”), recorded as being made by Moses according to the command of God (Numbers 21:8), which became an object of idolatrous worship. In place of this, he centralized the worship of God at the Jerusalem Temple. Hezekiah also resumed the Passover pilgrimage and the tradition of inviting the scattered tribes of Israel to take part in a Passover festival. He also sent messengers to Ephraim and Manasseh inviting them to Jerusalem for the celebration of the Passover. The messengers, however, were not only not listened to, but were even laughed at; only a few men of Asher, Manasseh, and Zebulun came to Jerusalem. Nevertheless the Passover was celebrated with great solemnity and such rejoicing as had not been in Jerusalem since the days of Solomon. Hezekiah is portrayed by the Hebrew Bible as a great and good king. He is one of the few kings praised so highly as to have “trusted in the Lord the God of Israel; so that there was no one like him among all the kings of Judah after him, or among those who were before him” (2 Kings 18:5). The Talmud (Bava Batra 15a) credits Hezekiah with overseeing the compilation of the biblical books of Isaiah, Proverbs, Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes. According to Jewish tradition, the victory over the Assyrians and Hezekiah’s return to health happened at the same time, the first night of Passover. Hezekiah’s “success” is mitigated just a verse later: “In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them” (2 Kgs 18:13). Hezekiah then apologizes to the Assyrian king and agrees to pay whatever tribute is imposed, including “silver” and “gold” from “the temple of the Lord” (2 Kgs 18:14-15). In addition, both Hezekiah himself (2 Kgs 19:4) and Isaiah (2 Kgs 19:30-31) refer to “the surviving remnant of the house of Judah.” Although the storyline in 2 Kings precedes the miraculous rescue of Jerusalem in center stage (2 Kgs 18:17-19:37), 2 Kgs 18:13-16 are important verses that might go overlooked. But other passages elsewhere in the Bible, namely Micah’s lament for these destroyed cities of Judah, make sure that the readers of the Bible do not forget those outlying towns that were not as fortunate as the capital city of Jerusalem (Mic 1:1-16). Sennacherib’s Prism claims that he had taken captive “200,150 people” and had “diminished his land.” And the wall relief of the siege of Lachish in Sennacherib’s palace in Nineveh graphically illustrates the cruel terror with which the Assyrians repay their rebels, as does the archaeology of Lachish itself. When did Jesus ever run any government? When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime. Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names. First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not. Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be: …and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’ This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’ But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t? In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father. And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39] Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32] In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same? Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17] How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
@@jamilbiotech91 Hezekiah was punished by LORD, he even sinned after he was given another 15 years of life. he show all the treasures of LORD to Babylon, and LORD was angry to him. So he is not wonderful, he is not the prince of peace, he is not the everlasting father, he did not open he hearts of the Gentiles. are you Judaism? it is prophesied that the same people will not believe in Jesus. But Christianity is the true and final religion. look how LORD used many nations to spread the cross around the world. now every person knows when they see the Cross it is the LORD. many wars happened to eradicate the pagans once and for all. LORD even used Constantine to spread the name of LORD, like how He used Babylon to destroy israel, egypt, tyre, damascus. Christianity is the final religion and Jesus is the truth.
@@healhands5760 Read and Repent. Give up your Idolatry. “The word of the Lord came to me: “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: “ ‘The parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge’? “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child-both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die. “Suppose there is a righteous man who does what is just and right. He does not eat at the mountain shrines or look to the idols of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife or have sexual relations with a woman during her period. He does not oppress anyone, but returns what he took in pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked. He does not lend to them at interest or take a profit from them. He withholds his hand from doing wrong and judges fairly between two parties. He follows my decrees and faithfully keeps my laws. That man is righteous; he will surely live, declares the Sovereign Lord. “Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things (though the father has done none of them): “He eats at the mountain shrines. He defiles his neighbor’s wife. He oppresses the poor and needy. He commits robbery. He does not return what he took in pledge. He looks to the idols. He does detestable things. He lends at interest and takes a profit. Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head. “But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things: “He does not eat at the mountain shrines or look to the idols of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife. He does not oppress anyone or require a pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked. He withholds his hand from mistreating the poor and takes no interest or profit from them. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father’s sin; he will surely live. But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people. “Yet you ask, ‘Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them. “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, you Israelites: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. Because they consider all the offenses they have committed and turn away from them, that person will surely live; they will not die. Yet the Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust? “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!” Ezekiel 18:1-32 NIV bible.com/bible/111/ezk.18.2-32.NIV
@@healhands5760 Isaiah 9:6 is referring to Isaiah 37. Once you read this you will Finally understand that Isaiah 9:6 is not about Jesus. Repent and Live! “When King Hezekiah heard this, he tore his clothes and put on sackcloth and went into the temple of the Lord. He sent Eliakim the palace administrator, Shebna the secretary, and the leading priests, all wearing sackcloth, to the prophet Isaiah son of Amoz. They told him, “This is what Hezekiah says: This day is a day of distress and rebuke and disgrace, as when children come to the moment of birth and there is no strength to deliver them. It may be that the Lord your God will hear the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God, and that he will rebuke him for the words the Lord your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.” When King Hezekiah’s officials came to Isaiah, Isaiah said to them, “Tell your master, ‘This is what the Lord says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! When he hears a certain report, I will make him want to return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.’ ” When the field commander heard that the king of Assyria had left Lachish, he withdrew and found the king fighting against Libnah. Now Sennacherib received a report that Tirhakah, the king of Cush, was marching out to fight against him. When he heard it, he sent messengers to Hezekiah with this word: “Say to Hezekiah king of Judah: Do not let the god you depend on deceive you when he says, ‘Jerusalem will not be given into the hands of the king of Assyria.’ Surely you have heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all the countries, destroying them completely. And will you be delivered? Did the gods of the nations that were destroyed by my predecessors deliver them-the gods of Gozan, Harran, Rezeph and the people of Eden who were in Tel Assar? Where is the king of Hamath or the king of Arpad? Where are the kings of Lair, Sepharvaim, Hena and Ivvah?” Hezekiah received the letter from the messengers and read it. Then he went up to the temple of the Lord and spread it out before the Lord. And Hezekiah prayed to the Lord: “Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth. Give ear, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see; listen to all the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God. “It is true, Lord, that the Assyrian kings have laid waste all these peoples and their lands. They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands. Now, Lord our God, deliver us from his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, Lord, are the only God.” Then Isaiah son of Amoz sent a message to Hezekiah: “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: Because you have prayed to me concerning Sennacherib king of Assyria, this is the word the Lord has spoken against him: “Virgin Daughter Zion despises and mocks you. Daughter Jerusalem tosses her head as you flee. Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed? Against whom have you raised your voice and lifted your eyes in pride? Against the Holy One of Israel! By your messengers you have ridiculed the Lord. And you have said, ‘With my many chariots I have ascended the heights of the mountains, the utmost heights of Lebanon. I have cut down its tallest cedars, the choicest of its junipers. I have reached its remotest heights, the finest of its forests. I have dug wells in foreign lands and drunk the water there. With the soles of my feet I have dried up all the streams of Egypt.’ “Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone. Their people, drained of power, are dismayed and put to shame. They are like plants in the field, like tender green shoots, like grass sprouting on the roof, scorched before it grows up. “But I know where you are and when you come and go and how you rage against me. Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears, I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth, and I will make you return by the way you came. “This will be the sign for you, Hezekiah: “This year you will eat what grows by itself, and the second year what springs from that. But in the third year sow and reap, plant vineyards and eat their fruit. Once more a remnant of the kingdom of Judah will take root below and bear fruit above. For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. “Therefore this is what the Lord says concerning the king of Assyria: “He will not enter this city or shoot an arrow here. He will not come before it with shield or build a siege ramp against it. By the way that he came he will return; he will not enter this city,” declares the Lord. “I will defend this city and save it, for my sake and for the sake of David my servant!” Then the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all the dead bodies!” Isaiah 37:1-36 NIV bible.com/bible/111/isa.37.1-36.NIV
Yes, here is the problem that most theists ignore. The multiple interpretations that can be pulled from quotes in the Bible. Acts of genocide are condoned in the Bible and justified as being commanded by God. I've encountered more Christians dodging references in the Old Testament than any other part of the Bible. The Old Testament comes from the Jewish Torah. The Old Testament in the Bible has the Adam and Eve story. But, there is no story of Adam and Eve in the Torah. Whoops.
True Christianity is all About personal interpretation. Any body can bend it to anything.Learn about Islam. We believe in the same GOD and Believe in Jesus(p). Jesus(p) was not the begotten son of GOD and he never claim to be. He was one of the Mightiest Messenger of GOD and he foretold about a coming of Prophet in Arabia and to Follow Him. He is Prophet Muhammed(p).
The woman is called a virgin, because she was unwed at the time she got pregnant and gives birth to a bastard child. This human child was born between the development of nuclear weapons and walking on the Moon Rev. 12:1. The Isaiah 9 child is a Spirit Child, because the Spirit that Immanuel was born with was killed and he lost his Soul and than got his Soul back with a new Spirit. These two Spirits are also know as the Ancient of days and the infant of days.
@Abraham Mani You can get dreams from them that is true, but that is not what they actually look like. The Angels and their leaders are of thick darkness. They are Spirits inside of their transparent as glass technology and their Spirits are like thick dark cloud like material in turmoil. Jesus is the great red dragon and his Angels are a third of the stars (Angels) from their new heaven space ship and intend to turn earth into the lake of fire and brimstone. However, the lake of fire and brimstone is not the Real Hell, nor is their Space Ship of Darkness and a Fire the Real Heaven. Jesus did not fulfill Isaiah 53 and 54, because the price required was the loss of the Soul and only One person could get his Soul back with a new Spirit. Jesus told you that he could not get his Soul back and said earth (and all life on earth) was not worth the Price required. Jesus told you to worship him as the Serpent in the wilderness and the wilderness is the Garden of Eden. Jesus was admitting to being the Deceiver.
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The child was born and the world rejected him..Isaiah 9.6 is talking about the end times Jesus second coming..Isaiah had insight into the future. What is God's desire? To be loved and have a personal relationship with his creation..since God is a spirit he must become man. Most religions see God as someone in the clouds..but Jesus proved God's authority by becoming like one of us..flesh and blood. On to us a child is born speaking about humanity..God becoming a man and still maintaining his authority over the universe.. Obviously men and some world leaders would not like this..because they won't be able to manipulate society as the world has been doing since the beginning.
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Psalm 118:1 Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good; his love endures forever. Matthew 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. This Clearly Tells Jesus Christ PBUH Was only A Prophet
wrong. this CLEARLY tells us , JESUS SPOKE IN PARABLES AND WITH WIT. Jesus was saying for wise minds " are you calling me God?" Why do you call me good ? Only God is good, *ARE YOU CALLING ME GOD?* is basically what he was saying. Sad that you will burn in hell forever for rejecting Jesus cause of one verse... The DISCIPLES WORSHIPED JESUS AND JESUS DIDN'T STOP THEM. "Matthew 14:33 32And when they had climbed back into the boat, the wind died down. 33Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God!” Jesus said "the father and I are one" Jesus claimed to be God and WAS WHY THE PHARASEES WANTED TO KILL HIM. John 10:33 "32But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” 33“ We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.” " Wake up , demons leave in Jesus name and truth and light come in Jesus name.
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How long will you deny the Son of Man? The Son of the Living God? Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The king of kings who will inherit the earth, and Rule with an iron scepter. He is the Son of God, the Messiah, and the image of the Living God, and that will remain the truth. - Isaiah 53 - Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed? 2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. 3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. 4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. 9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. 10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand. 11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
The Jewish scholars who interpreted the old testament Hebrew to the Greek when creating The Septuagint bible 200 years before Jesus was born translated that word virgin not maiden interestingly Isa. 7:14. I've read years ago that Isa. 7:14 is a double prophecy its two fold part pertained to Isaiah's predicament and the greater meaning was messianic.
Zech 12:10 “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit[a] of grace and supplication. They will look on[b] me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
Isaiah 53:5
5 But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was on him, and by his wounds we are healed.
"For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end.".....only the Messiah/Christ can fulfill this prophecy...Christ is the Everlasting Father of a new nation which He has brought forth by His sacrifice and resurrection...He is as well the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Prince of Peace and finally, His government is Everlasting...as only God's govt. can be.
Below is a quote in both English and Hebrew from the Hebrew bible regarding Isaiah 9:6 in the KJV, which is actually Isaiah 9:5 in the Hebrew bible.
'For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, "the prince of peace." הכִּי־יֶ֣לֶד יֻלַּד־לָ֗נוּ בֵּן נִתַּן־לָ֔נוּ וַתְּהִ֥י הַמִּשְׂרָ֖ה עַל־שִׁכְמ֑וֹ וַיִּקְרָ֨א שְׁמ֜וֹ פֶּ֠לֶא יוֹעֵץ֙ אֵ֣ל גִּבּ֔וֹר אֲבִי־עַ֖ד שַׂר־שָׁלֽוֹם:
Notice the difference in the wording above from the Hebrew bible compared to the KJV, read it very carefully. Can you see how the wording in the KJV has been doctored & manipulated? This occurs quite a few times throughout the New Testament when quoting from the Hebrew bible, and this is just one example! Equally important, Isaiah is referring to a child that has already been born, (Past Tense). The Hebrew word ''יֻלַּד'' (Yulad) means ''was born'' (Past Tense) which shows this quite clearly and this word is used in other parts of the Hebrew bible to mean exactly that. See the following: Genesis 4:26, Genesis 35:26, Judges 18:29, Jeremiah 20:15, Psalms 87:5, Ruth 4:16-17
Also, the word ''וַיִּקְרָ֨א'' (Vayikra) means ''was called, or cried''. The word is used to refer to something that has already been named, Past Tense. See the following examples: Genesis 1:5, Genesis 3:20, Genesis 25:26, Isaiah 21:8, Isaiah 36:13
The New Testament tries to imply that the child mentioned in the verse is ''baby Jesus'', and is called ''Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.'', when in actual fact, the child is only called "the prince of peace" by the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Just to clarify what the Hebrew bible actually says, the child being spoken about is not ''the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father'', he is just "the prince of peace".
In any case, even if the Christian translation of the verse were accurate, and that was the child's Divine name, it does not mean that the child is in fact G-d. There are quite a few examples in the Hebrew bible of people or things that are given Divine names but are obviously not G-d. See: Genesis 33:20, Exodus 17:15, Judges 6:24, Jeremiah 33:16, 1 Samuel 1:1, 1 Samuel 1:3, Judges 9:5, Exodus 21:6, Exodus 7:1.
One has to read the whole of Isaiah chapter 9 in the correct context to understand it. So, who is the child (the prince of peace) that Isaiah is speaking about in chapter 9? Answer: King Hezekiah of Judah. He is the one who brings peace to the Jewish people with the miraculous help of G-d, (as of the day of Midian - Isaiah 9:3 & see 2 Kings 19:31-35 in Hebrew bible) by defeating the Assyrians who were threatening to destroy the kingdom of Judah.(the Jewish people)
In conclusion, Isaiah chapter 9 is describing the miraculous victory of King Hezekiah and the Jewish people over the powerful Kingdom of Assyria at that time, similar to the miraculous victory of Gideon over the Midianites, alluded to in Isaiah 9:3 in the Hebrew bible. It is not speaking about a future event (Birth of Jesus)700 years later, it describes these events in the Past Tense. One does not speak about a future event in the Past Tense!
@@robmancuso964 @rob mancuso Wrong. Hezekiah wasn't the "everlasting Father". believe in Jesus or Perish. Pharaseetical Jews are so crazy, They wont eat cheeseburgers because " Don't boil a young goat(kid) in it's mothers milk". I hate the stupid man made tradtions of the pharasees. My Baptists taught all sorts of things against the Bible too. So dumb. Stop with stupid made up traditions, eat Cheeseburgers, Believe in Jesus or burn forever with daddy satan.
SO STUPID!!!!!!! "In Exodus 23:29, it says, “Do not boil the milk of a child, nor the milk of another family”. That forbids the eating of meat and dairy. As an example, cheeseburgers cannot be eaten by Jews who follow these diet rules. It is usually observed that people wait up to six hours after dining meat before they drink dairy.
THIS WAS A PAGAN PRACTICE, NOT SAYING YOU CANT EAT MEAT AND DAIRY. ITS TALKING ABOUT GOATS AND GOAT MILK ANWAYS, NOT COWS AHAHAH DUMB PHARASEES ARE SONS OF HELL.
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It's quite obvious that you prefer to simply ignore the point I made in my previous comment, regarding how the wording in the Christian bible regarding Daniel 9:6 has been intentionally changed when compared to how it actually reads in the Hebrew Bible. Additionally, your comment makes it painfully obvious that you have absolutely no understanding of Kosher dietary laws at all!
Christianity diminishes God into a finite, physical, fragile human being in the form of Jesus, as part of the Trinity/Godhead. The worship of any created form, whether human or otherwise, is Idolatry, plain and simple.
Anyway, if you want to be an idolater and worship a dead Jew instead of God, then good luck to you!
@@robmancuso964 According to your explanation and apply it to the scripture of Isaiah 9:6, are you saying that Isaiah is calling Hezekiah (13th king of Judah) "the mighty God, the everlasting Father"? And how does this explains the verses of Isaiah 9:1-2 when it talks about a great light shine on the land of Zebulun and Naphtali which was part of the Kingdom of Israel. The Kingdom of Israel has been conquered by the Assyrian Empire during the time of Hezekiah. Hezekiah didn't do everything to the land of Zebulun and Naphtali according to the scriptures. If any, it was God who killed the 185000 Assyrian soldiers saving the Kingdom of Judah. However, according to the New Testament, Jesus was raised up and starts his missionary at Galilee which is a city in between the land of Zebulun and Naphtali.
@@yathongtam5907 NO, you didn't read what I wrote properly! See paragraph below.
The New Testament tries to imply that the child mentioned in the verse is ''baby Jesus'', and is called ''Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.'', when in actual fact, the child is ONLY called "the prince of peace" BY the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Just to clarify what the Hebrew bible actually says, the child being spoken about is NOT ''the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father'', he is JUST "the prince of peace".
Lord Jesus is our God!
Yiwan Ye
That is idolatry!
Numbers 23:19 God is not a human being, that he should lie,
or a mortal, that he should change his mind.
NRSV
Jesus was a human being.
Gd is NOT a human being.
@@user-vm6en5tu3d The Word in flesh
L Eggleston It dosent say God CANT become a human, as he did later on in the New Testament
Gd is not a human being, period.
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Unto us a child is born" is a reference to king Hezekiah. It is not about Jesus. There is nothing evidently futuristic in Isaiah 9:6, and the verses are past tense (admittedly, a past tense does not rule out a future event, but to supply future tenses in a translated text, there should be evidence that a future is intended by the Hebrew writer). The child has already been born at the time of Isaiah's writing. King Hezekiah is described as one of the greatest kings that Judah ever had (2 Kings 18:5) because of his trust in the LORD. He is the harbinger of the light to the Gentiles and the Galileans who were being persecuted by the Assyrians (led by king Sargon). Hezekiah withstood their vast armies by virtue of his faith, despite being hugely outnumbered. The light (verse 2) is the light of God that he reflected on them through his faith and zeal.
At any rate, turning to the epithets or descriptors in Isaiah 9:6, we find that NONE of them applies to Jesus, and the NT never indicates that they do. For example, Jesus was not called "everlasting Father". In Christian theology, Jesus is never the "Father", but the Son; calling Jesus "Father" would contradict the Trinity (If God intended any indication of Jesus in the verse, it would surely read "everlasting Son").
Jesus was also not called "prince of peace" either. On the contrary, in Matt. 10:32, he declares that he had not come to bring peace, but a sword. Jesus wasn't called by any of the other epithets in that verse, so they are a mismatch for him. The Hebrew word "Hezekiah" means "God is mighty" or "might of God". So Hezekiah's name is actually encoded in the verse ("his name is called mighty god"). In the verse Heszekaiah is "everlasting father" in the sense that his dynasty - which is the dynasty of David, his forefather - is everlasting. The verse is not saying that the man Hezekiah is everlasting, but that he is father of an everlasting dynasty - the dynasty of David.
Trinity contradicts itself. God said many times, there is only ONE Lord. The Father also said there is no other saviour but him so if Jesus isnt also the father then we're all in big trouble.
@@tweekthaklown5713 that's just proving that Jesus is God. You think that Jesus is a different person. Jesus is God himself in flesh.
@@lisachambers3683, tell me when Jesus was ever called Emmanuel, and who called him by that name?
@@lisachambers3683 , note that there is no virgin birth prophesied in Is. 7:14. The word "virgin" used in many Christian versions (fortunately, not in all) in that verse is a MISTRANSLATION of the Hebrew word "almah", which means "young woman". The woman being referred to is Isaiah's young wife. It has nothing to do with Jesus.
So it is your messiah who united the world? 🫡🫡🫡
With all due respect you seem like a nice guy but you make so so many mistakes here. As far as 7:14 how do you understand the context here at all? This is a sign that was to be given to Ahaz to assure him of a victory. The verse is clear this will happen in a few years, not 700 years later. What kind of a sign would that be to Ahaz now if it happened 700 years later?? I can't believe I even have to explain this. Are you aware that this whole chapter has zero to do with the messiah? The word almah is not an ambiguous word at all. It means young woman. If the intention was to describe a virgin birth, the word besula would have been used. Alma never means virgin anywhere in the whole bible. Are you aware this verse is in the present tense, not future? The baby had already been conceived. Are you aware 9:6 is in the past tense, not future? Are you are that this child who is Hezekiah is not in fact called a Mighty God? It is actually correctly translated Mighty God CALLED HIM Prince of Peace. Are you aware that verse 1 only says they will see a great light? It doesn't say this baby will make the light. Are you aware that there are dozens of names like Emmanuel that have God in the name? It's not a prophecy. It means God is with us and He always is. That's it. Elijah means God is our Lord. Is this a prophecy for something too? I don't blame you for all the mistranslations and all the distortions since this is what the nt and the church will tell you but just think a minute and you'll see the obvious lies and deception.
During the time of Isaiah it was common for kings have titles of divinity like mighty g-d.
@@noahremnek3615 Actually it wasn't a title for THEM but a title to praise God. Isaiah 9:6 which is no doubt referring to Hezekiah. Guess what that means in hebrew. It means mighty God. It doesn't mean he was a God. It is just using a name to praise God every time the name is used. Elijah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, and many many more are all the same thing.
@@nothingbutthetruth613 I left Christianity for Judaism when I found out about 80-90% of the prophecies Jesus fulfilled are mistranslations and/or out of context. I also found out that many things in the NT contradict the OT
For example:
Hebrews 9:22
“In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”
Psalm 40:6
“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire-- but my ears you have opened -- burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not require”
Hebrews 10:10
“And by that will, we have been made holy(A) through the sacrifice of the body(B) of Jesus Christ once for all.”
Ezekiel 45:22
“On that day the prince is to provide a bull as a sin offering for himself and for all the people of the land.”
Romans 6:14
“For sin shall no longer be your master,(A) because you are not under the law,(B) but under grace.”
Deuteronomy 29:29
“The secret things belong to the Lord our God,(A) but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.”
@@noahremnek3615 You're a smart man. Most people don't have the guts to face reality and admit that they have been duped their whole life so they continue to live a lie. You exhibit rare courage and are very admirable.
@@nothingbutthetruth613 I would ask my pastor questions but he would just dismiss them. He was more concerned about going to hell rather than knowing whether Christianity is true. Everyone told me to just accept Jesus and don’t ask questions. In Judaism I am encouraged to ask questions which I liked more.
"Joy to the World, the Lord Is Come" goes well with this verse. Ditto with Luke 2:1-7. Merry Christmas.
christmas is pagan and is NOT to be celebrated. Keep His feasts not the way of the pagans.
@@MusicComposerZenki What about today? Today is December 26. Today is The Festival of St. Stephen, Deacon & Martyr (see Acts 6:8-7:2a, 51-60). Sad that the day after Jesus' birth, we commemorate the first person to die on this earth for Jesus. And Happy New Year.
I literally just watched a Jewish scholar try to deny the messianic prophecy of Jesus by referring to Hezekiah. Thank you for providing that argument of how that perspective is lacking. Great breakdown!
jazzmac03 lol believeing in fals god
Sahad Ullah ooo look we got a fals believer 😂 in comments section. dm bible has so many errors.
Watch this dabet between biggest scholars of christian. and dr zakir
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watch this. debate : pastor Ruknuddin vs dk zakir. m.ua-cam.com/video/p97063SOtAA/v-deo.html
Julia T really please look at. bible and read. then come there is thousands scientific errors in bible. and i can prov you
Julia T which is true and truly jesues pbuh is a messager of allah. and talking about quran go and read this book has no errors
1) he quoted correctly the verse that starts with "For a child IS born to us",meaning the child had already been born during Isaiah time which is 700 years before Jesus. in the verse, the Hebrew word "YULAD" is past perfect tense meaning was born or is now born. however many mainstream christian translation say: "For a child will be born to us". that is a mis translation aiming to manipulate the text to fit the Jesus narrative.
2) "and he will be given the name" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew words "VA-YIKRA SHEMO" is past perfect or present tense meaning is/was called. if you dont believe me go to Leviticus Chapter 1:1 look how the first word in the verse -VA-YIKRA (וַיִּקְרָ֖א). you will see it is translated in the christian bible in the past tense which is a correct translation, while in Isaiah 9:5 they changed the same word to the future tense.
3) Isaiah is talking about the great miracle of the destruction of the Assyrian army during Hezekiah, the king reigning during Isaiah time. the name Hezekiah contains two Hebrew words. first word "HAZAK" means Mighty second word "YAHO" means god.
Hezekiah is called "Wonder of a Counsellor" because he counselled the Jewish people in Jerusalem, persuading them to repent for their sins and put their trust in god. and because they did as he counselled them, 185,000 of Assyrian soldiers surrounding Jerusalem were wiped out (II Chronicles 31 and 32).
Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life and also because the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people (Isaiah 38:5).
Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule (Isaiah 39:8; 2 Chronicles 32:23).
4) "dominion will rest on his shoulders" - the original Hebrew is in the present tense " VA-TEHI" (is upon): "and the government is upon his shoulder" again, Isaiah speak about someone living in his time. in any case, Jesus died as a criminal under roman government. Hezekiah held the government of Judea on his shoulders.
5) "in order to extend the dominion" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew word "MISRA" translate to "government" not dominion, a specifically Political role. Jesus was never a politician, Hezekiah was.
6) "and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David" - Jesus or his church never perpetuate peace. Hezekiah on the other hand did - "peace reigned for the rest of his life" (2 Chronicles 32:23)
7) "to secure it (the kingdom of David) and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever". did Jesus do that? absolutely not. things only went down hill for Judea since before the time of Jesus and after him. Hezekiah on the other hand cleansed the temple and his kingdom from idolatry and he is considered the most righteous Jewish king that ever lived.
8) The zeal of Adonai - Tzva’ot will accomplish this. Adonai - Tzva’ot means the lord of host. god of host was the one who destroyed the Assyrian army during Hezekiah conflict with king of Assyria. this prophecy speak of how god accomplished peace and security to Judea, but according to your religion god punished Judea because of Jesus.
these are the points that prove beyond any doubt that Isaiah cant be speaking about Jesus. if your going to tell me that Isaiah was speaking about the second coming of Jesus, well im sorry, im not going to wait another 2000 years for this baseless interpretation to come true. you've been lied to. if you believe in the word of god then all you have is the Torah. not the mistranslated manipulated christian bible, not the new testament, not the book of Mormons and not the Quran.
nowhere in the NT ia Jesus called "mighty god", only few names in all the bible mean mighty god. one name is Hezekiah \ Hizke (mighty)-yahu(god) \Hebrew: חִזְקִיָּהוּ. the others are Gabriel and Ezekiel. also not gods.
1) he quoted correctly the verse that starts with "For a child IS born to us",meaning the child had already been born during Isaiah time which is 700 years before Jesus. in the verse, the Hebrew word "YULAD" is past perfect tense meaning was born or is now born. however many mainstream christian translation say: "For a child will be born to us". that is a mis translation aiming to manipulate the text to fit the Jesus narrative.
2) "and he will be given the name" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew words "VA-YIKRA SHEMO" is past perfect or present tense meaning is/was called. if you dont believe me go to Leviticus Chapter 1:1 look how the first word in the verse -VA-YIKRA (וַיִּקְרָ֖א). you will see it is translated in the christian bible in the past tense which is a correct translation, while in Isaiah 9:5 they changed the same word to the future tense.
3) Isaiah is talking about the great miracle of the destruction of the Assyrian army during Hezekiah, the king reigning during Isaiah time. the name Hezekiah contains two Hebrew words. first word "HAZAK" means Mighty second word "YAHO" means god.
Hezekiah is called "Wonder of a Counsellor" because he counselled the Jewish people in Jerusalem, persuading them to repent for their sins and put their trust in god. and because they did as he counselled them, 185,000 of Assyrian soldiers surrounding Jerusalem were wiped out (II Chronicles 31 and 32).
Hezekiah is called "the everlasting Father" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God will add years to his life and also because the Davidic dynasty was once more confirmed as the only true kingly rule that God would accept over his people (Isaiah 38:5).
Hezekiah is called "the ruler of peace" because this name is a sign, which foretells that God would be merciful to him. Punishment for lack of faith in the Almighty will be deferred and peace granted during the last years of his rule (Isaiah 39:8; 2 Chronicles 32:23).
4) "dominion will rest on his shoulders" - the original Hebrew is in the present tense " VA-TEHI" (is upon): "and the government is upon his shoulder" again, Isaiah speak about someone living in his time. in any case, Jesus died as a criminal under roman government. Hezekiah held the government of Judea on his shoulders.
5) "in order to extend the dominion" - again mistranslation. the Hebrew word "MISRA" translate to "government" not dominion, a specifically Political role. Jesus was never a politician, Hezekiah was.
6) "and perpetuate the peace of the throne and kingdom of David" - Jesus or his church never perpetuate peace. Hezekiah on the other hand did - "peace reigned for the rest of his life" (2 Chronicles 32:23)
7) "to secure it (the kingdom of David) and sustain it through justice and righteousness henceforth and forever". did Jesus do that? absolutely not. things only went down hill for Judea since before the time of Jesus and after him. Hezekiah on the other hand cleansed the temple and his kingdom from idolatry and he is considered the most righteous Jewish king that ever lived.
8) The zeal of Adonai - Tzva’ot will accomplish this. Adonai - Tzva’ot means the lord of host. god of host was the one who destroyed the Assyrian army during Hezekiah conflict with king of Assyria. this prophecy speak of how god accomplished peace and security to Judea, but according to your religion god punished Judea because of Jesus.
these are the points that prove beyond any doubt that Isaiah cant be speaking about Jesus. if your going to tell me that Isaiah was speaking about the second coming of Jesus, well im sorry, im not going to wait another 2000 years for this baseless interpretation to come true. you've been lied to. if you believe in the word of god then all you have is the Torah. not the mistranslated manipulated christian bible, not the new testament, not the book of Mormons and not the Quran.
@Abraham Mani NO that's blasphemy. Jesus infact did not fulfill any prophesies. The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures. .STOP DECEIVING people.
This guy is so blind he's saying the truth but doesn't see it. Hezekiah was the prince of peace. This was not a prophecy but a sign " unto us a child is born " he was born in the time of Isaiah. Don't be fooled by this old man
Mr so and so you are wong at all and your wong teachings thanks
It's not "a virgin", but "THE YOUNG WOMAN". it's talking about the wife of Achaz. Keep reading chapter 7 and you'll realize that this is a sign for Achaz to see. It makes no sense for it to happen 600 years later when Achaz would be long dead...
You are absolutely right. This Isaiah 7:14 has nothing to do with Jesus. In fact Jesus never fulfilled any prophesies. This man is trying to defend the lies the new testament. It is well dressed lie. ..The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures. .
@@ilscatiii4977
Proverbs 30:18-19:
18 There are three things that are too amazing for me,
four that I do not understand:
19 the way of an eagle in the sky,
the way of a snake on a rock,
the way of a ship on the high seas,
and the way of a man with a young woman (ALMAH).
The author is saying that the things a young couple might face in life are mysterious, something that can't be predicted. So this ALMAH is a married woman! She just happens to be young.
@@ilscatiii4977 one thing won't cancel the other. "Young woman" is a pretty broad term, it can mean a child, it can mean a 20 year old woman, which is still, considered young. The word "ALMAH" עלמה comes from "Alum" עלום, which means "youth, youthful vigour". Also, ALMAH is female of ALEM, עלם and we see in scripture, King Shaul referring to David as "Alem" on 1 Samuel 17:56. It is also written that David had killed a lion and a bear, a child could not have done that. Well, you believe that Mary is the "young woman" of the prophecy, right? I guess you don't believe that Mary was a underage girl.
@@ilscatiii4977 the fact you're saying that they are committing adultery simply proves you're not interpreting text correctly. The text only means to say that just like these four things are unpredictable, also the way of the adulteress woman in unpredictable.
Btw, adultery can only happen when a woman is married (in biblical times, a man could have more than a wife). So even if you consider that the adulteress woman is this "ALMAH", you still have to admit she's married!!!
Well coming up with a modern dictionary to explain ancient hebrew scriptures is pretty anachronistic. Almah comes from Alum (youth). The main goal of usage of the word is to refer to someone who's young, not someone who's virgin (even though it might be a virgin, it's not what the word is focusing on).
@@anthonyjohn9000 I'll have to stop you at "Jesus never fulfilled any prophecies" 😂
Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. He is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Jesus is Lord. Psalms 110:1 David calls Him Lord of my Lord. Then go to Mathew 22:41-46 He speaks to those who rejected Him and to you who continue to reject Him.
Question doesn't arise because the man named Jesus never existed. The fetal flaw here is that the so called messianic prophetic portrait is largely a Christian fiction that among other things regularly relies on fabrication of prophesies as well as tendentious misquotations and misapplications of the passages in Hebrew scriptures.
1 Peter 2:7-8 7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
Wonderful explanation. Thank you.
Isaiah 9:6 isn’t even quoted in the New Testament. Later Christians claimed this talked about Jesus.
According to Judaism, the answer is in the names chosen. The name ‘Hezekiah’ which in Hebrew is ‘Chizkiyah’ comes from the words ‘chazak’ and ‘Ya.’ ‘Chazak’ means ‘strong’ or ‘mighty’ and ‘Ya’ is the shortened name for Gd used as a suffix. Many might recognize the Ya’ in the word, ‘halleluyah’ which means,’praise Gd.’ Judaism believes that Isaiah 9:6-7 refers to Hezekiah, who reigned for almost 30 years. The name Hezekiah, Chizkiyah, is the same name in meaning, as one finds in the verses from Isaiah 9:6-7, a ‘Mighty Gd.’
Christians are fond of using Isaiah 9:6 as a “proof text” for the messiahship and deity of Jesus. Context is important to reading scripture, especially prophecy.
What is the book of Isaiah, of whom does the prophet speak in it’s chapters?
Isa 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD hath spoken:
Only one person in the jewish scriptures is referred to as “mighty god” and his name is Hizkiyyahu or, Hezekiah (mighty god)
Hezekiah - Hizkiyyahu or Hizkiyyah - Among Hezekiah’s first acts was the repair of the Temple, which had been closed during the reign of Ahaz. He reorganized the services of the priests and Levites, purged the Temple and its vessels, and opened it with imposing sacrifices (2 Chronicles 29:3-36). He resolved to abolish what the Hebrew Bible refers to as idolatry from his kingdom, and among other things that he did to this end, he destroyed the high places (or bamot) and “bronze serpent” (or “Nehushtan”), recorded as being made by Moses according to the command of God (Numbers 21:8), which became an object of idolatrous worship. In place of this, he centralized the worship of God at the Jerusalem Temple. Hezekiah also resumed the Passover pilgrimage and the tradition of inviting the scattered tribes of Israel to take part in a Passover festival. He also sent messengers to Ephraim and Manasseh inviting them to Jerusalem for the celebration of the Passover. The messengers, however, were not only not listened to, but were even laughed at; only a few men of Asher, Manasseh, and Zebulun came to Jerusalem. Nevertheless the Passover was celebrated with great solemnity and such rejoicing as had not been in Jerusalem since the days of Solomon.
Hezekiah is portrayed by the Hebrew Bible as a great and good king. He is one of the few kings praised so highly as to have “trusted in the Lord the God of Israel; so that there was no one like him among all the kings of Judah after him, or among those who were before him” (2 Kings 18:5).
The Talmud (Bava Batra 15a) credits Hezekiah with overseeing the compilation of the biblical books of Isaiah, Proverbs, Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes.
According to Jewish tradition, the victory over the Assyrians and Hezekiah’s return to health happened at the same time, the first night of Passover.
Hezekiah’s “success” is mitigated just a verse later: “In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them” (2 Kgs 18:13). Hezekiah then apologizes to the Assyrian king and agrees to pay whatever tribute is imposed, including “silver” and “gold” from “the temple of the Lord” (2 Kgs 18:14-15). In addition, both Hezekiah himself (2 Kgs 19:4) and Isaiah (2 Kgs 19:30-31) refer to “the surviving remnant of the house of Judah.” Although the storyline in 2 Kings precedes the miraculous rescue of Jerusalem in center stage (2 Kgs 18:17-19:37), 2 Kgs 18:13-16 are important verses that might go overlooked. But other passages elsewhere in the Bible, namely Micah’s lament for these destroyed cities of Judah, make sure that the readers of the Bible do not forget those outlying towns that were not as fortunate as the capital city of Jerusalem (Mic 1:1-16). Sennacherib’s Prism claims that he had taken captive “200,150 people” and had “diminished his land.” And the wall relief of the siege of Lachish in Sennacherib’s palace in Nineveh graphically illustrates the cruel terror with which the Assyrians repay their rebels, as does the archaeology of Lachish itself.
When did Jesus ever run any government?
When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime.
Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names.
First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not.
Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be:
…and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’
This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’
But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t?
In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father.
And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39]
Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32]
In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same?
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17]
How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
Isa. 7:14 & 9:6 refer both to the children in Isaiah's day and to the Messiah. A double prophesy. But Christ is not Jehovah. He is "el gibbor," a mighty hero!
John 8:58 before Abraham was born 'IAM', Exodus 3:14 IAM who IAM
“The verb ‘to be’ is used differently, in what is presumably its basic meaning of ‘be in existence’, in John 8:58: (the Greek words) “prin Abraam genesthai ego eimi,” would be most naturally translated ‘I have been in existence since before Abraham was born,’ if it were not for the obsession that some have with the simple words ‘I am.’ If we take the Greek words in their natural meaning, as we surely should, the claim to have been in existence for so long is, in itself, a staggering one, and quite enough to provoke the crowd’s violent reaction.” In other words, Jesus didn’t have to claim to be “God” in order for the Jews to try to stone him. Simply claiming such longevity and of, therefore, being greater than Abraham was more than enough to provoke them. @@Modestcrusader_7
If this is true, why do you have to change the Hebrew verbs from past (perfect tense) to future (imperfect tense) to prove your claim? For example, the word Vayikra is past tense, "was called", NOT will be called. And why in Isaiah 7:14 would you change "the" young woman to "A" virgin. What happened to the definite article? You distort the word of God and then want me to believe in Jesus?
@Abraham Mani Deuteronomy 13:1
@Abraham Mani Dear Mr Mani, Where does Moshe tell about a prophet?? The only place he mentions such a fellow is in Deuteronomy 13 and that person is supposed to be executed.
Isaiah 7:14 is a terrible mistranslation;
KJV: Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
The Hebrew reads: לָ֠כֵן יִתֵּ֨ן אֲדֹנָ֥י ה֛וּא לָכֶ֖ם אֹ֑ות הִנֵּ֣ה הָעַלְמָ֗ה הָרָה֙ וְיֹלֶ֣דֶת בֵּ֔ן וְקָרָ֥את שְׁמֹ֖ו עִמָּ֥נוּ אֵֽל׃
The correct translation will be: "Therefore, my Lord Himself will give you (Achaz, who lived about 600 years before Jesus) a sign (sign and not a miracle); behold a maiden (the wife of Isaiah himself [if you'd bother to read the context the child is actually mentioned in chapter 8]) will become pregnant and bear a son, and you will name him Immanuel."
So in context Achaz is afraid of Aram and Israel (the northern kingdom) they are ready to attack Judah. Achaz is afraid that he will be run over and be taken captive (or worse). Isaiah tell him, not to worry. There will be a sign, a child will be born. By the time this child will know to differentiate between good and evil (I imagine before the child comes of age), these two kings (who are at the verge of attacking you, will be abandoned (Isaiah 7:16).
It is clearly not speaking about an event that takes place 600 or 700 years later. That has no relevance to the whole chapter.
Isaiah 9 incidentally speaks about a Messianic figure (the forefathers of the Messiah are called Messianic figures) it is speaking about the most righteous king known to Judah, Hezekiah. The translation of the KJV is as follows:
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."
The correct translation from Hebrew will be: "For a child has been born to us, a son has been given to us, and the dominion will rest on his shoulders; The Wondrous Adviser (G-d Himself), Mighty G-d (couldn' be clearer) Eternal Father, called his name Prince of Peace"
So the KJV corrupted the translation. They say He "will" call his name etc, but the Hebrew is in the past tense. So it couldn't be speaking about Jesus.
@Abraham Mani Dear Sir, What I don't understand from your words (with due respect) is that you are professing not to argue with Scriptures in Torah. Your words are very unclear to me. You say:
“When Jesus was on earth He cast out demons and it is happening in this 2020.You will say demons are being delivered by their own cheif. Right? If you believe so may I ask you?How can a Kingdom destroy by their own guys?”
Which chief? Which Kingdom?
With all due respect sir, since when are miracles a proof that something is of substance? Miracles of Jesus. Do they proof anything about his divinity? If you'd say yes, then why don't you reckon with the miracles that Krishnah does every day? There are loads of people in India and Indonesia who believe that Krishnah appeared to them and performed a miracle. They were healed in some cases. Thus this constitute a proof to their divinity?
The Torah says in Deuteronomy 13 quite the opposite. “If a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams… give you a sign or wonder, and the sign or wonder comes to pass, saying, ‘let us worship other gods’… you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer because the Lord your God is testing you”
Here the Torah very clearly tells us that anybody who gives a sign or does a wonder and tells to do something that contradicts the Jewish Scriptures, that person is a fraud.
Now hear, I watched a video of this Mark Heman. You can slap as in the face with miracles all day, but that is not a proof. Specifically because of what is written in the aforementioned passage.
The Lord your God is testing you. He wants to see if you hold on to the true monotheistic religion. Belief in Jesus is contradicting the Torah and prophets.
Besides my friend. I gave very clear answers why the words which you mentioned regarding Isaiah were not any proof.
For sure these things come like a shock for many Christians. But what many Christians belief and say is that Christianity is simply Judaism+Messiah (Jesus). But this is a big MISTAKE. The theology of Judaism and Christianity are totally incompatible. If you sincerely want to understand this better you are welcome to contact me.
@Abraham Mani Giving signs and miracles is NOT a proof that somebody is the Messiah. Why should I bother answering if you don't absorb anything or at least answer the arguments I gave??
@Abraham Mani Jesus did NOTHING of what the Jewish prophets said that the Messiah would do. There is no substance to what his honor is saying. Please come with arguments not with verses from the NT which have no value to Jews.
Acts 28:26 Paul states what the prophet Isaiah said to the israelites by God. God the Father said this to the stubborn children of Israel in Isa. 6: 9-10. In Matt. 13: 14-15 God the Son quoted these words to the Jews who rejected him. And now God the Spirit, through the apostle, repeated them to the people who had a hardened heart. This indicates that in each move of the Divine Trinity the children of Israel were disobedient to the God of grace, therefore, He turned to the Gentiles to carry out His New Testament economy in the propagation of His kingdom for the edification of the churches through the propagation of the risen and ascended Christ (v. 28).
But He hasn’t left the Jews. The heavens and earth will have to melt away before the Jews will not be a nation before Him.
Stop deceiving please!
Why don't you read the text in the original text ... In Hebrew
And you'll have a very different signification .
Always twisting signication of words to suit your pagan belief of trinity. The first one concerned, Jesus, never proclaimed to be God worthy of worship and you'll find non verse from Him verbatim in the Bible.
You have verses lost in translation and other ones twisted in translation.
There is no prophecy of a "virgin" birth in Isaiah 7:14, and the speaker should not be sowing this confusion! The word that Isaiah uses there is "almah", and that word just means "young woman" (neither more nor less). If Isaiah had meant to imply a virigin, he would have used the Hebrew word "bethulah". Christians, please, enough of your dishonesty!
Moreover, the "sign" that Isaiah gives to Ahaz is not a mysterious birth, but that before the child (already conceived and gowing in the young woman's womb) is old enough to distinguish good from evil, then Ahaz's enemy kings will have been destroyed. That will be the sign to prove to king Ahaz that Isaiah is a true prophet from God, whom he can trust. READ THE CONTEXT!
Are you saying that Christians are lying? Or just mistaken?
In those days, using the term "almah" , young woman, implied virgin...Else, just woman would have been appropriate. In our day and age, even ig going back a few hundred years, "young woman" would not necessarily imply "virgin"..hence the new translations would use "vergin" in order to hold on to the actual meaning and implications of the prophecy.
@@jacksteiner8842 , that still doesn't make the verse a virgin birth prophecy! Moreover, you should read the context of the chapter, which has nothing to do with the time of Jesus (it's about invasion by the king of Assyria and Egypt), and the "sign" is given to Ahaz, which he will be able to verify (he wouldn't be ble to verify a virigin birth!). The sign is that before the soon to be born son is old enopugh to distinguish right from wrong, the two enemy kings of Ahaz will be defeated. So the sign is the defeat of the enemy kings, and its fulfilment will give Ahaz proof that Isaiah is a prophet from God. The sign is not a virgin birth! Don't Christians ever want to read context? You want to wrench verses out of context, and even mistranslate them in your versions.
@@psandbergnz, you mentioned context, and I think that is what you are actually missing. From chapter 1 of the book of Isaiah we learn that Judah is corrupt. God commands Isaiah to call them to repentance...From Ch 1. 16, we read how the Lord pleads with Judah to cease to do evil....this is then followed by the Lord beginning to warn Judah of His disgust for what they do...From chapter 2 , we begin to sense that God is not going to leave Judah, but Ch 2.vs 2 - now it shall come to pass in the latter days....note vs. 3 and 4....Many people shall come and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord...He will teach us His ways...we shall walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law...4 He shall judge between nations, and rebuke many people....This continues with what He is going to do in the future...But then in Ch 6 - Isaiah volunteers to be sent by God, and as you read ch 7 we can almost hear the prophet Isaiah ask "Lord, how long?"... and the Lord answers from vs 11 to 13, closing the verse with "So the holy seed shall be its stump." Now Paul, ask yourself...does the context seem to be simply one regarding the immediate troubles of King Ahaz? absolutely not..
@@psandbergnz you mentioned context.?!....what you are actually missing is context. From chapter 1 of the book of Isaiah we learn that Judah is corrupt. God commands Isaiah to call them to repentance...From Ch 1. 16, we read how the Lord pleads with Judah to cease to do evil....this is then followed by the Lord beginning to warn Judah of His disgust for what they do...From chapter 2 , we begin to sense that God is not going to leave Judah, but Ch 2.vs 2 - now it shall come to pass in the latter days....note vs. 3 and 4....Many people shall come and say, Come, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord...He will teach us His ways...we shall walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the law...4 He shall judge between nations, and rebuke many people....This continues with what He is going to do in the future...But then in Ch 6 - Isaiah volunteers to be sent by God, and as you read ch 7 we can almost hear the prophet Isaiah ask "Lord, how long?"... and the Lord answers from vs 11 to 13, closing the verse with "So the holy seed shall be its stump." Now Paul, ask yourself...does the context seem to be simply one regarding the immediate troubles of King Ahaz? Please do read all those chapters...they are amazing prophecy...I will continue after you respond..
The prophecy of Isaiah 9:6 taught my fathers the ancient Israelites that the Mashiach who was to be born is YHWH GOD the Everlasting Father manifested in flesh and this is what the Lord Jesus Christ taught (John 14:9) and that the Lord Jesus Christ is the Father also emerges clearly when comparing John 2:19-21 and Galatians 1:1.
Thank you
isiah 9:6 does not refer to jesus christ, read the full scripture in context, it had already happened. The word you refer to does not mean virgin, many names means many things, like ishmael means God hears, stop misquoting scripture
The Jewish scholars who interpreted the old testament Hebrew to the Greek when creating The Septuagint bible 200 years before Jesus was born translated that word virgin not maiden interestingly Isa. 7:14. I've read years ago that Isa. 7:14 is a double prophecy its two fold part pertained to Isaiah's predicament and the greater meaning was messianic.
Yeah sure still in 200 years after a son born the peoples of Israel’s rejected him and he crucified wounded because came from the line of David king and peoples followed him as a leader… also made new rules and laws like a king… 😂😂😂
"The word you refer to does not mean virgin, many names means many things, "
The word is not a NAME, it is a simple noun, which can mean young woman or it can mean virgin, depending on the context. The word given to Ahaz is about a miraculous sign. There is no miracle in a young woman conceiving a child.
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John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made
Colossians 1:16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through Him and for Him.
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Isaiah 9:1 is not a prophecy of Jesus' futur ministry, and there is no implication of a future event prophesied. For once, the KJV provides us an accurate translation fronm the Hebrew:
Isaiah 9:1 (KJV): "Nevertheless the gloom will not be upon her who is distressed,
As when at first He lightly esteemed
The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
And afterward more heavily oppressed her,
By the way of the sea, beyond the Jordan,
In Galilee of the Gentiles."
The NIV MISTRANSLATES this verse as a futuristic prophecy: "Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations, by the Way of the Sea, beyond the Jordan- in Galilee of the Gentiles."
BUT THERE IS NO FUTURE TENSE IN BIBLICAL HEBREW, AND NONE IMPLIED IN THAT VERSE.
SO TELL ME, CHRISTIANS, USING THE KJV, HOW ARE YOU SHOEHORNING JESUS INTO THAT VERSE? WHERE IS IT EVEN PROPHESYING A MESSIAH TO COME? THERE IS NOTHING FUTURISITC IN THAT VERSE IN ANY CORRECT TRANSLATION.
You are absolutely right. Christians do not understand the meaning of Isaiah chapter 7, because they do not read the full chapter, they just depend on what others or Pastors teach them.
Read the septuagint translation
@@sakellarioudimitris7439 , the original Septuagint only comprised the first five books of the Tenakh (often called the Torah). The Greek version of Isaiah is not part of the Septuagint, but a later addition to it, which was highly edited and redacted by the early Church. So reading your alleged Septuagint translation is not useful.
@@psandbergnz rabbinic Jews have a Talmudic response to everything and cannot go outside of that realm. Daniels messianic prophecy of when the messiah would be born and die is denied by you guys lol
@@armyinfantry11b , the Talmud is certainly dear to the Jews. You claimed that in the book of Daniel, there is prophesied "when the messiah would be born and die".
I disasgree! I suppose you are claiming this friom Daniel 9: 24-27. Please enlighten me WHEN Daniel claims that "the messiah" will be born and die, and how you are arriving at those years. Let's see if you can! Bear in mind that all the events prophesied in Daniel chapter 9, including the destruction of the temple (which happened in 70 CE) were to be accomplished within the "70 weeks of years" (= 490 years). So you need the starting year of the prophecy for your calculation - what is it?
Btw, Daniel does not mention "the messiah" ("hamashiach"), but "a messiah", which means an "anointed one". Priests and kings are messiahs in the Bible, since they are anointed (same word, "mashiach"). But please show me how the year of the birth and death of a messiah is revealed in Daniel chapter 9 or elsewhere.Thanks.
This debate on this has been going on a long time. The Hebrew word in Isaiah did not mean virgin it meant young woman. The writer of the Gospel of Matthew changed the word to virgin.
Young women indeed virgin… but the point a child is given a son is given the prince of peace…
The second temple destroyed near 2000 years ago so if not Jesus the prophet then it’s mean no one is which mean judaism is just imagination so there is no god for them…
"For to us a child is born,
to us a son is given, Notice the tense indicates the child has been born at the time of the speaking.
The government shall be on his shoulder and shall be called.... Look at the tense too
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Alma is not ambiguous at all! It means young woman. Certainly not virgin. Virgin is always Besulah in Hebrew. Turn to Proverbs 30:20: "This is the way of an adulterous woman: She eats and wipes her mouth and says, 'I've done nothing wrong.'" The word for young woman is alma over here. An adulterous young woman. Hardly a virgin. You are not honest (or mislead) if you say alma is ambiguous.
Perhaps the B.C. Hebrew said 'virgin'. I don't know, but the Septuagint rendered it as 'virgin'.
That would still serve both the immediate fulfillment and the Messianic. But do I understand that Isaiah already had a son, the first one you named? That would make him writing literal 'virgin' ('bethulah?') a little odd. But the oddness would be a testimony toward a later fulfillment, too. I heard that the Qumran community expected a virgin born Messiah.
You all know the only man came after Jesus and and people called him peace father(peace mean islam)
he is The prophit mohammed
He is the prince of peace and if continue to read the Isaiah chapter 42/ from 1_17 every thing it's clear 🌹
This claim has been refuted thousands of times my friend. Muhammad is not in the bible. Stop fooling and embarrassing yourself.
@@eddiemonesti5671 ok who is kidar and where he lived and what's the new song in the mountains?
@@eddiemonesti5671 These signs indicate that he is the man. If you ask any one how is the father of Islam ( Islam mean salam mean peace) they will told you he is Mohammed.
This is just reminding to you and for all people if you want take it or don't you free my friend but in the end of life you will remember me brother. Wish you good days in your life 🌹
Muhammad was a warlord who beheaded 900 banu quryza jews. He is the opposite of prince of peace.
@@eddiemonesti5671 muhammad is in the bible,,not by name,but hes in the bible
You dont REMEMBER him.
Outright wrong interpretation!! Roman Catholic agelong manipulative interpretation. All the citations has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus
If you keep denying Christ, you are denying yourself life everlasting. Read the New Testament and determine for yourself. Become our flock, and your sins will be cleansed by the blood of the Holy Lamb.
- Isaiah 53:12 -
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
@@knightlykin1499 What spoil is Jesus going to divide?
Then to whom?
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It was Hezkiah . All events point to that moment , and you can’t simply fast forward to Jesus time and imply this passage . Had to be within context
HOW ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH CAN ANYONE WITH BRAIN CELLS SAY HEZAKIAH WAS THE "EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE, WONDERFUL COUNSELOR" that is so brain damaged demonic deceptive garbage.
How is it that people say Jesus is Mighty Father ?
Context is Isaiah said a child and son born who take the throne of David and Israel and make it right FOREVER! So give us an eternal king who is sinless…
Also said god revelead himself
The man reject him transgender him wound him and by that wound we will heal!
He will give his life and by his death we we heal!
Sorry too big bullshit what you want to give us! Historically Jesus was crucified cause peoples of Israel rejected him and the world litereally learned the forgiveness while you guys had only the eye for eye law! While the world learned what forgiveness is… it is just too big same story from a book what written 200 years before the HISTORICAL EVENTS!
In the original Hebrew text! Isaiah did not use the word "virgin", but rather "young woman". In the Greek Bible that the New Testament authors were using, it was mistranslated as "virgin". 100% human error.
Septuagint came before Masoretic and Septuagint says “virgin “ not “young woman” lol.. Septuagint predates the masoretic by thousands of years so it’s more accurate
@@quicksilver7532 Yes, the Septuagint says "virgin", but the Septuagint is a GREEK translation, and not the original Hebrew that Isaiah was written in. In the original Hebrew, it does not say virgin. When Matthew was writing his Gospel, he used the mistranslated Greek text that said "virgin" instead of Hebrew that said "young woman".
@@quicksilver7532 You're wrong on multiple counts. The dead sea scrolls predate our earliest greek translation of Isaiah and it corroborates the msoretic text's rendering of the word as Alma. So the septuagint is not more accurate with respect to Isaiah 7:14. The DSS Isaiah scroll is designed "1QIsa" if you want to look it up. Also, the Septuagint does not predate the masoretic text by thousands of years. The oldest known masoretic text is the Aleppo codex from around the year 930. For a greek translation to predate that by thousands of years it would at least have to date to around 1070BC, which is just absurd. The original LXX (which was ONLY five books of Moses and did not include Isaiah) wasn't even translated until the around the second century BC. All we have are a few tiny greek fragments that predate the first century, none of which contain Isaiah.
Isaiah 53
1
Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3
He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4
Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
6
We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7
He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
8
By oppression [1] and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken. [2]
9
He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
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Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes [3] his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
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After the suffering of his soul, he will see the light [of life] [4] and be satisfied [5] ; by his knowledge [6] my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
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Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, [7] and he will divide the spoils with the strong, [8] because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
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Some people say it was Hezekiah.
but read the Book of Judges regarding the Angel who appeared to Samson's parents: His name is Wonderful.
Now go back to the Child's name in book of Isaiah: He will be called Wonderful; Mighty God; Everlasting Father.
No one calls Hezekiah those names.
Hezekiah cried and prayed to Yahweh when King Sennacherib is about to obliterate Jerusalem. because it is their last stand. that israel will become history like Sodom and Gomorrah.
So Hezekiah is not that child they are talking about.😊
Isaiah 9:6 isn’t even quoted in the New Testament. Later Christians claimed this talked about Jesus.
According to Judaism, the answer is in the names chosen. The name ‘Hezekiah’ which in Hebrew is ‘Chizkiyah’ comes from the words ‘chazak’ and ‘Ya.’ ‘Chazak’ means ‘strong’ or ‘mighty’ and ‘Ya’ is the shortened name for Gd used as a suffix. Many might recognize the Ya’ in the word, ‘halleluyah’ which means,’praise Gd.’ Judaism believes that Isaiah 9:6-7 refers to Hezekiah, who reigned for almost 30 years. The name Hezekiah, Chizkiyah, is the same name in meaning, as one finds in the verses from Isaiah 9:6-7, a ‘Mighty Gd.’
Christians are fond of using Isaiah 9:6 as a “proof text” for the messiahship and deity of Jesus. Context is important to reading scripture, especially prophecy.
What is the book of Isaiah, of whom does the prophet speak in it’s chapters?
Isa 1:1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
Isa 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth, for the LORD hath spoken:
Only one person in the jewish scriptures is referred to as “mighty god” and his name is Hizkiyyahu or, Hezekiah (mighty god)
Hezekiah - Hizkiyyahu or Hizkiyyah - Among Hezekiah’s first acts was the repair of the Temple, which had been closed during the reign of Ahaz. He reorganized the services of the priests and Levites, purged the Temple and its vessels, and opened it with imposing sacrifices (2 Chronicles 29:3-36). He resolved to abolish what the Hebrew Bible refers to as idolatry from his kingdom, and among other things that he did to this end, he destroyed the high places (or bamot) and “bronze serpent” (or “Nehushtan”), recorded as being made by Moses according to the command of God (Numbers 21:8), which became an object of idolatrous worship. In place of this, he centralized the worship of God at the Jerusalem Temple. Hezekiah also resumed the Passover pilgrimage and the tradition of inviting the scattered tribes of Israel to take part in a Passover festival. He also sent messengers to Ephraim and Manasseh inviting them to Jerusalem for the celebration of the Passover. The messengers, however, were not only not listened to, but were even laughed at; only a few men of Asher, Manasseh, and Zebulun came to Jerusalem. Nevertheless the Passover was celebrated with great solemnity and such rejoicing as had not been in Jerusalem since the days of Solomon.
Hezekiah is portrayed by the Hebrew Bible as a great and good king. He is one of the few kings praised so highly as to have “trusted in the Lord the God of Israel; so that there was no one like him among all the kings of Judah after him, or among those who were before him” (2 Kings 18:5).
The Talmud (Bava Batra 15a) credits Hezekiah with overseeing the compilation of the biblical books of Isaiah, Proverbs, Song of Songs and Ecclesiastes.
According to Jewish tradition, the victory over the Assyrians and Hezekiah’s return to health happened at the same time, the first night of Passover.
Hezekiah’s “success” is mitigated just a verse later: “In the fourteenth year of King Hezekiah, Sennacherib king of Assyria came up against all the fortified cities of Judah and took them” (2 Kgs 18:13). Hezekiah then apologizes to the Assyrian king and agrees to pay whatever tribute is imposed, including “silver” and “gold” from “the temple of the Lord” (2 Kgs 18:14-15). In addition, both Hezekiah himself (2 Kgs 19:4) and Isaiah (2 Kgs 19:30-31) refer to “the surviving remnant of the house of Judah.” Although the storyline in 2 Kings precedes the miraculous rescue of Jerusalem in center stage (2 Kgs 18:17-19:37), 2 Kgs 18:13-16 are important verses that might go overlooked. But other passages elsewhere in the Bible, namely Micah’s lament for these destroyed cities of Judah, make sure that the readers of the Bible do not forget those outlying towns that were not as fortunate as the capital city of Jerusalem (Mic 1:1-16). Sennacherib’s Prism claims that he had taken captive “200,150 people” and had “diminished his land.” And the wall relief of the siege of Lachish in Sennacherib’s palace in Nineveh graphically illustrates the cruel terror with which the Assyrians repay their rebels, as does the archaeology of Lachish itself.
When did Jesus ever run any government?
When was Jesus ever called a Wonderful Counselor, or a Mighty Gd, or an Everlasting Father, or a Prince of Peace? Jesus was never called by any of these names anywhere in the Christians’ New Testament and not at all in his own lifetime.
Christians always seem to misunderstand this quotation. This is because they do not understand Hebrew, nor do they understand names, nor do they understand Hebrew names.
First, let us understand names. In most languages, every name has a meaning. The name ‘Anthony’ means ‘priceless’ and the name ‘Alexander’ means ‘protector.’ If we were to give a child the first and middle names of Anthony Alexander, would that mean that we are saying that this child is a ‘priceless protector?’ Would we call out to them, ‘Hey, Priceless Protector, how are you?’ Of course not.
Hebrew names sometimes say something about Gd. The name Michael means ‘who is like Gd.’ The name Elihu means ‘my Gd is He,’ or ‘He is my Gd.’ The name Immanuel means ‘Gd is with us,’ just to give a few examples. If someone has the name, Elihu, (again, meaning ‘He is my Gd’) would that mean that the human being known as Elihu is Gd? These names say something about Gd, even though they are the names of ordinary human beings. A better translation to the verse in question might be:
…and his name will be called, ‘A wonderful counselor is the mighty Gd, an everlasting father is the ruler of peace.’
This means that there are really only two Hebrew names in the verse, which are given to a human being and not to a divine being, even though the names make a statement about Gd. Those names, like Anthony Alexander in our example above, would be ‘Pele Yoetz El Gibor Avi Ad Sar Shalom.’ The way it is written in the original Hebrew, the names would be hyphenated as ‘Pele-Yoetz-El-Gibor’ and ‘Avi-Ad-Sar-Shalom.’ Lengthy names like these were not uncommon in the Bible, and in Isaiah specifically. For example, in Isaiah 8:3, we find the name, ‘Maher-shalal-chash-baz,’ which means ‘the spoil speeds, the prey hastens.’
But let us suppose that this verse really did contain four names. How well would they apply to Jesus? Is this a case where at first the description of the person described in Isaiah 9:6-7 sounds like the story of Jesus, but, on closer examination, it isn’t?
In the trinity, Jesus is the son, and not the Father. He cannot be both at the same time. As a matter of fact, Jesus himself showed that he was not the Father, and claimed not to have the same will, or the same knowledge as the Father.
And going a little farther he fell on his face and prayed, ‘My Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as thou wilt.’ [Matthew 26:39]
Jesus calls the One to whom he prayed his Father, so how can Jesus be ‘the Everlasting Father,’ if he called another his Father? How could Jesus be the Father if the will of Jesus is not the same as the will of the Father? This denies the very idea of the trinity.
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. [Mark 13:32]
In the above verse, Jesus claims there is something that he does not know, but that only the Father knows. So how can Jesus, ‘the son,’ also be the Father if their knowledge is not the same?
Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my Gd, and your Gd. [John 20:17]
How can the Father ascend to Himself? In the above verse, Jesus not only distinguishes between himself and his Father, but he also makes it sound as though the relationship that he has with Gd, ‘The Father,’ is exactly the same relationship that all people have with Gd, who is, in fact, the Father of all.
@@jamilbiotech91 Hezekiah was punished by LORD, he even sinned after he was given another 15 years of life. he show all the treasures of LORD to Babylon, and LORD was angry to him. So he is not wonderful, he is not the prince of peace, he is not the everlasting father, he did not open he hearts of the Gentiles.
are you Judaism? it is prophesied that the same people will not believe in Jesus.
But Christianity is the true and final religion. look how LORD used many nations to spread the cross around the world. now every person knows when they see the Cross it is the LORD. many wars happened to eradicate the pagans once and for all. LORD even used Constantine to spread the name of LORD, like how He used Babylon to destroy israel, egypt, tyre, damascus. Christianity is the final religion and Jesus is the truth.
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Read and Repent. Give up your Idolatry.
“The word of the Lord came to me: “What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: “ ‘The parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge’? “As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child-both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die. “Suppose there is a righteous man who does what is just and right. He does not eat at the mountain shrines or look to the idols of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife or have sexual relations with a woman during her period. He does not oppress anyone, but returns what he took in pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked. He does not lend to them at interest or take a profit from them. He withholds his hand from doing wrong and judges fairly between two parties. He follows my decrees and faithfully keeps my laws. That man is righteous; he will surely live, declares the Sovereign Lord. “Suppose he has a violent son, who sheds blood or does any of these other things (though the father has done none of them): “He eats at the mountain shrines. He defiles his neighbor’s wife. He oppresses the poor and needy. He commits robbery. He does not return what he took in pledge. He looks to the idols. He does detestable things. He lends at interest and takes a profit. Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head. “But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things: “He does not eat at the mountain shrines or look to the idols of Israel. He does not defile his neighbor’s wife. He does not oppress anyone or require a pledge for a loan. He does not commit robbery but gives his food to the hungry and provides clothing for the naked. He withholds his hand from mistreating the poor and takes no interest or profit from them. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father’s sin; he will surely live. But his father will die for his own sin, because he practiced extortion, robbed his brother and did what was wrong among his people. “Yet you ask, ‘Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?’ Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them. “But if a wicked person turns away from all the sins they have committed and keeps all my decrees and does what is just and right, that person will surely live; they will not die. None of the offenses they have committed will be remembered against them. Because of the righteous things they have done, they will live. Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign Lord. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live? “But if a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin and does the same detestable things the wicked person does, will they live? None of the righteous things that person has done will be remembered. Because of the unfaithfulness they are guilty of and because of the sins they have committed, they will die. “Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Hear, you Israelites: Is my way unjust? Is it not your ways that are unjust? If a righteous person turns from their righteousness and commits sin, they will die for it; because of the sin they have committed they will die. But if a wicked person turns away from the wickedness they have committed and does what is just and right, they will save their life. Because they consider all the offenses they have committed and turn away from them, that person will surely live; they will not die. Yet the Israelites say, ‘The way of the Lord is not just.’ Are my ways unjust, people of Israel? Is it not your ways that are unjust? “Therefore, you Israelites, I will judge each of you according to your own ways, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent! Turn away from all your offenses; then sin will not be your downfall. Rid yourselves of all the offenses you have committed, and get a new heart and a new spirit. Why will you die, people of Israel? For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign Lord. Repent and live!”
Ezekiel 18:1-32 NIV
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Isaiah 9:6 is referring to Isaiah 37. Once you read this you will Finally understand that Isaiah 9:6 is not about Jesus. Repent and Live!
“When King Hezekiah heard this, he tore his clothes and put on sackcloth and went into the temple of the Lord. He sent Eliakim the palace administrator, Shebna the secretary, and the leading priests, all wearing sackcloth, to the prophet Isaiah son of Amoz. They told him, “This is what Hezekiah says: This day is a day of distress and rebuke and disgrace, as when children come to the moment of birth and there is no strength to deliver them. It may be that the Lord your God will hear the words of the field commander, whom his master, the king of Assyria, has sent to ridicule the living God, and that he will rebuke him for the words the Lord your God has heard. Therefore pray for the remnant that still survives.” When King Hezekiah’s officials came to Isaiah, Isaiah said to them, “Tell your master, ‘This is what the Lord says: Do not be afraid of what you have heard-those words with which the underlings of the king of Assyria have blasphemed me. Listen! When he hears a certain report, I will make him want to return to his own country, and there I will have him cut down with the sword.’ ” When the field commander heard that the king of Assyria had left Lachish, he withdrew and found the king fighting against Libnah. Now Sennacherib received a report that Tirhakah, the king of Cush, was marching out to fight against him. When he heard it, he sent messengers to Hezekiah with this word: “Say to Hezekiah king of Judah: Do not let the god you depend on deceive you when he says, ‘Jerusalem will not be given into the hands of the king of Assyria.’ Surely you have heard what the kings of Assyria have done to all the countries, destroying them completely. And will you be delivered? Did the gods of the nations that were destroyed by my predecessors deliver them-the gods of Gozan, Harran, Rezeph and the people of Eden who were in Tel Assar? Where is the king of Hamath or the king of Arpad? Where are the kings of Lair, Sepharvaim, Hena and Ivvah?” Hezekiah received the letter from the messengers and read it. Then he went up to the temple of the Lord and spread it out before the Lord. And Hezekiah prayed to the Lord: “Lord Almighty, the God of Israel, enthroned between the cherubim, you alone are God over all the kingdoms of the earth. You have made heaven and earth. Give ear, Lord, and hear; open your eyes, Lord, and see; listen to all the words Sennacherib has sent to ridicule the living God. “It is true, Lord, that the Assyrian kings have laid waste all these peoples and their lands. They have thrown their gods into the fire and destroyed them, for they were not gods but only wood and stone, fashioned by human hands. Now, Lord our God, deliver us from his hand, so that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that you, Lord, are the only God.” Then Isaiah son of Amoz sent a message to Hezekiah: “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: Because you have prayed to me concerning Sennacherib king of Assyria, this is the word the Lord has spoken against him: “Virgin Daughter Zion despises and mocks you. Daughter Jerusalem tosses her head as you flee. Who is it you have ridiculed and blasphemed? Against whom have you raised your voice and lifted your eyes in pride? Against the Holy One of Israel! By your messengers you have ridiculed the Lord. And you have said, ‘With my many chariots I have ascended the heights of the mountains, the utmost heights of Lebanon. I have cut down its tallest cedars, the choicest of its junipers. I have reached its remotest heights, the finest of its forests. I have dug wells in foreign lands and drunk the water there. With the soles of my feet I have dried up all the streams of Egypt.’ “Have you not heard? Long ago I ordained it. In days of old I planned it; now I have brought it to pass, that you have turned fortified cities into piles of stone. Their people, drained of power, are dismayed and put to shame. They are like plants in the field, like tender green shoots, like grass sprouting on the roof, scorched before it grows up. “But I know where you are and when you come and go and how you rage against me. Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears, I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth, and I will make you return by the way you came. “This will be the sign for you, Hezekiah: “This year you will eat what grows by itself, and the second year what springs from that. But in the third year sow and reap, plant vineyards and eat their fruit. Once more a remnant of the kingdom of Judah will take root below and bear fruit above. For out of Jerusalem will come a remnant, and out of Mount Zion a band of survivors. The zeal of the Lord Almighty will accomplish this. “Therefore this is what the Lord says concerning the king of Assyria: “He will not enter this city or shoot an arrow here. He will not come before it with shield or build a siege ramp against it. By the way that he came he will return; he will not enter this city,” declares the Lord. “I will defend this city and save it, for my sake and for the sake of David my servant!” Then the angel of the Lord went out and put to death a hundred and eighty-five thousand in the Assyrian camp. When the people got up the next morning-there were all the dead bodies!”
Isaiah 37:1-36 NIV
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Yes, here is the problem that most theists ignore. The multiple interpretations that can be pulled from quotes in the Bible. Acts of genocide are condoned in the Bible and justified as being commanded by God. I've encountered more Christians dodging references in the Old Testament than any other part of the Bible. The Old Testament comes from the Jewish Torah. The Old Testament in the Bible has the Adam and Eve story. But, there is no story of Adam and Eve in the Torah. Whoops.
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@Abraham Mani what colour was he?
True Christianity is all About personal interpretation. Any body can bend it to anything.Learn about Islam. We believe in the same GOD and Believe in Jesus(p). Jesus(p) was not the begotten son of GOD and he never claim to be. He was one of the Mightiest Messenger of GOD and he foretold about a coming of Prophet in Arabia and to Follow Him. He is Prophet Muhammed(p).
The woman is called a virgin, because she was unwed at the time she got pregnant and gives birth to a bastard child. This human child was born between the development of nuclear weapons and walking on the Moon Rev. 12:1. The Isaiah 9 child is a Spirit Child, because the Spirit that Immanuel was born with was killed and he lost his Soul and than got his Soul back with a new Spirit. These two Spirits are also know as the Ancient of days and the infant of days.
@Abraham Mani You can get dreams from them that is true, but that is not what they actually look like. The Angels and their leaders are of thick darkness. They are Spirits inside of their transparent as glass technology and their Spirits are like thick dark cloud like material in turmoil. Jesus is the great red dragon and his Angels are a third of the stars (Angels) from their new heaven space ship and intend to turn earth into the lake of fire and brimstone. However, the lake of fire and brimstone is not the Real Hell, nor is their Space Ship of Darkness and a Fire the Real Heaven. Jesus did not fulfill Isaiah 53 and 54, because the price required was the loss of the Soul and only One person could get his Soul back with a new Spirit. Jesus told you that he could not get his Soul back and said earth (and all life on earth) was not worth the Price required.
Jesus told you to worship him as the Serpent in the wilderness and the wilderness is the Garden of Eden. Jesus was admitting to being the Deceiver.
You are demonic
Baraq o Bamah is the deceiver and the antichrist and pope Francis is the false prophet
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The child was born and the world rejected him..Isaiah 9.6 is talking about the end times Jesus second coming..Isaiah had insight into the future. What is God's desire? To be loved and have a personal relationship with his creation..since God is a spirit he must become man. Most religions see God as someone in the clouds..but Jesus proved God's authority by becoming like one of us..flesh and blood. On to us a child is born speaking about humanity..God becoming a man and still maintaining his authority over the universe..
Obviously men and some world leaders would not like this..because they won't be able to manipulate society as the world has been doing since the beginning.
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Psalm 118:1
Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good;
his love endures forever.
Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
This Clearly Tells Jesus Christ PBUH Was only A Prophet
wrong. this CLEARLY tells us , JESUS SPOKE IN PARABLES AND WITH WIT. Jesus was saying for wise minds " are you calling me God?" Why do you call me good ? Only God is good, *ARE YOU CALLING ME GOD?* is basically what he was saying. Sad that you will burn in hell forever for rejecting Jesus cause of one verse... The DISCIPLES WORSHIPED JESUS AND JESUS DIDN'T STOP THEM.
"Matthew 14:33 32And when they had climbed back into the boat, the wind died down. 33Then those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, “Truly You are the Son of God!”
Jesus said "the father and I are one" Jesus claimed to be God and WAS WHY THE PHARASEES WANTED TO KILL HIM. John 10:33 "32But Jesus responded, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone Me?” 33“ We are not stoning You for any good work,” said the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because You, who are a man, declare Yourself to be God.” " Wake up , demons leave in Jesus name and truth and light come in Jesus name.
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How long will you deny the Son of Man? The Son of the Living God? Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The king of kings who will inherit the earth, and Rule with an iron scepter. He is the Son of God, the Messiah, and the image of the Living God, and that will remain the truth.
- Isaiah 53 -
Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?
2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.
11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.