I remember you mentioning (in ep 10 I think) how the way Bakugo looked at himself felt more full than the way Endeavor did. With Bakugo mentioning how he has risen above it and Endeavor finding strenght in cursing his own weakness. Now Endeavor's family comes in and basically forces himself to stay alive. Needed to be saved in that sense as well I guess.
Despite all the great stuff with the Todoroki family and All Might moving me by just showing up, I was to point out Iida's contribution to this episode the most. I love that his two big character moments in the final act thus far have been catching up to Deku in season 6 and bringing Shoto to his family here. It's not that they needed to be repaid for helping him back during the Stain fight, but the fact that he still gets to do it makes me happy, he's so different from the guy we met back in episode 4. In the extrance exam he ran from the zero point robot, and after seeing Deku go the other way and attack it he assumed he'd only done so because he figured out a trick to the test, thinking he'd only go that extra mile if he knew it benefited him in some way. Now look at him, he's launching himself at mach 3 across hundreds of miles just to thank his friend for saying a few kinds words to him when he needed it. He's been caught up in the seemingly endless cycle of reciprocated good natured action that's spurred out from Deku and Class-A as a whole, and now he really gets to pass on to others.
@@Tubular_dude_20y_ago Nicely said, I had forgotten about that all the way back then. Everything is different now. As a hypothetical, I can imagine season 1 Ida being told something like: "your main contribution is going to be escorting Shoto so that he can defeat a villain." Can't say for sure but I imagine season 1 Ida (and maybe an observing audience) would say that sounds disappointing, but for current Ida and at least for me, there's nothing more to ask for really
Honestly, for as monstrous as Touya has become, I feel like it’s only fair for the family to be the ones to ultimately save him from getting himself killed completely. And it was just in the nick of time too, since Endeavor had already given up on him yet again. There’s a lot of complicated feelings happening here, and I honestly wasn’t expecting the whole family to end up on the battlefield, but hey, it’s finally time for Touya to get the attention he’s deserved all this time. And that’s not even getting into All Might and Death Arms.
Yeah man clearly when Dabi was trying to blow upp civillians and the rest of the family is the right time to try and cool him down with a ice quirk Endeavour doesent even have. Plus he was fully intedning to die with him. Endeavour haters really just come upp with any exuse to make him the bad guy. Obviously trying to stop his son from killing more people is the bad choice here. Its pretty sad when even the actual character is less deranged than people coping as them and not realizing that they devalue the character by stripping away any nuance.
@@samuelclayhills3298 Buddy, what about this comment made you think I was “making him the bad guy.” All I did was state the fact that he gave up on Touya again. 😅 Honestly, whenever people jump to defend the guy whenever someone brings up something that he did that was at the very least morally questionable is what takes away those “nuances” you’re talking about. 😅
Seeing Toya's ice quirk awaken was a really bitter pill to swallow, knowing that he had her ice quirk in him all along, making Toya the son that Endeavor had wanted from the beginning. Really making it feel like this was all for nothing. This truly was all Endeavor's responsibility. The Todoroki family storyline is without the best subplot MHA had.
Yeah but also in the words of Shoto (I think): "You're the only one who decided to burn people" Maybe not the exact quote but yeah Toya is still to blame for all the deaths he caused. Deku kind of came to the same conclusion with the whole "it's your quirk not his" that he recycled and used on Toya a season or 2 ago. Endeavor had a lot to make up for but he also put more than he actually had to make up for on his shoulders by shouldering every single death and every emotion Toya felt even though some of which were not his fault besides the initial mistreatment of Toya.
@WhatsIQ I never once said I'm excusing Toya for anything, but it's true none of this would've ever happened if it wasn't for Endeavor. The monster Toya had become, and the hellish Todoroki family saga is his fault, and it's his responsibility.
@@gantashiro978 But the same thing could be said about most scenarios you wouldn't do the opposite and go "it's endeavors reason shoto is strong hero" people make their own decisions even if they were pushed into a certain direction
@WhatsIQ Lol wtf is wrong with you, why are you even arguing with me on this. You're trying to create a debate over nothing. Literally, everyone is in agreement that this is Endeavors fault. Both fans and ALL of the characters in the story itself including Endeavor himself. Nobody, not Shoto, not any of his children, not any of the people who are aware of what happened, and not Endeavor himself. NOBODY IS DEFENDING HIM. So, what are you trying to prove a point or something? Stop wasting my time.
@WhatsIQ Do you have a mental deficiency and are unable to tell that more than one person can be responsible for something? You're acting like if someone says it's Endeavors fault that doesn't mean blame can be put on anyone else at all 😅 like I said I never excused Toya for anything, nobody forced him to murder people, he made the choice to do it. Tell me where in any of my comments did I say Toya is innocent? WHERE? What happened with Toya is solely Endeavor's responsibility to bear because he created this whole thing in the first place. But it doesn't make Toya any less guilty for the crimes he committed. Someone can be solely responsible for something while others in question are still no less guilty for it. It's Endeavors responsibility, but Toya isn't innocent in anything at all. Are you unable to get that through your skull?
Very emotional episode overall. However it's kinda crazy that Dabi was able to "unlock" ice, and in the process become (the old) endeavors "perfect" son. Which is oddly fitting/full circle that after everything the todoroki's had gone through they all quite literally confronted and put a stop to that "evil" that endeavor first brought upon all of them.
The anime omitted a piece of a chapter during the beginning. In prison, Compress and Geten are discussing their family histories. Geten reveals he's from the same family as Todoroki's mother. The family was obsessed with their self-image, hated heteromorphs, was proud of being pureblood to the point of inbreeding, leading to some mental issues, possibly suggesting an undiagnosed hereditary origin of why Toya became vicious so quickly as a child when Endeavor stopped spending time with him.
@Green-3c34y65vrbu They can possibly add it in during the season 7 recap like they added in the scene where the league kills that cult a season after it should've been shown.
Not gonna lie, Endeavor apologizing to everyone, saying sorry for not going to sekoto peak and seeing the frozen tear down Toya's face as he says I hate you dad had me weeping 😢😢 going into this as a manga reader I knew this was going to be emotional, and it delivered
I always felt that it was really important that the whole family was there with Dabi. Enji's relationship with his son has had a lot of screen time, and Shoto in general has had a lot of screen time so we care about how he might feel about his older brother, but the other siblings and mom also are important. THEY must be holding some guilt over what Toya turned into. Dabi was mad at EVERYONE, not just his father, so he needed to vent at them as well. Everyone needed to be here and do this for their own sakes.
The camera showing a closeup for AFO's face of pure visceral hatred while looking down on AM, then switching to 'I Am Here' gave me insane chills, had to start rubbing down both my arms. AM with no quirk out in the cold rain, completely fearless and smiling like its his birthday looking up at this almost divine figure of a vengeful god, barreling directly towards HIM. An insignificant middle-aged man with a permanent injury. This is gonna be absolutely insane, the final battle between the Symbol of Villainy and the Symbol of Heroism will be one for the ages.
There’s actually a deleted scene where Geten explains that he’s a member of Rei’s clan. They’ve got a history of doing what Endeavor did to her. Makes her backstory even more tragic
A visual bit of symbolism the anime omitted: When All Might remembers when Midoriya asked if it's possible to be a hero without a quirk, All Might thinks about what would have happened had it been young All Might being asked that question.
My read on Enji is that he truly believes the life of the people around him would be better off without him. Meaning, if he dies, he dies. Its not like he ever sees himself WITH his family in his visions. And that to me means, Enji doesnt believe he truly is a good man, or that he can be a good man, that he could ever join his family and for them to be still happy. The OFA fight kinda showed us that Enji believes that anger is his drive(even after Hawks asks for Enji to calm down, he is unable to) , what kept him alive, what made him win so many times, but also what screwed up everyon´s life...is anger. And when you have this fire in yourself that you are not sure if you can control...I think you decide to stay away, especially if you alreayd burned the people you love so many times. I mean there is hope, coz it isnt like Enji had actual time to process everything and our man needs like a decade of therapy, but also IF Touya truly dies,the son who was the "perfect creation" Enji wanted form the beginning with fire and ice...the son that honestly seeked his approva the most, yeah that is gonna be almost impossible to overcome for a parent that they had a hand in the destruction of their child, and it was all SO avoidable.
The biggest, and honestly saddest piece to all of this is that honestly… Endeavor is right to hate himself for what he did. I’d honestly respect him less if he didn’t (not that I have THAT much respect for the guy). This entire situation was one of his own making, and when you realize something like that, any logical person would absolutely loathe themselves for starting this. He’s finally self-aware, but at the cost of basically everything he cares for.
Sad to think Toya did have the ice ability, but it could only be brought upon when his body was near death. Only way Toya would ever become half-cold half-hot is by destroying himself, and the only reason Endeavor now knows this is because of a situation that never should have happened, a situation Endeavor understands he was the catalyst of. And the family joining in, because they allowed themselves to be mere bystanders when Toya was hurting himself in the past.
This rightfully is one of the best episodes of the series. So many themes at play here - All Might's convictions, the Todoroki family getting some form of closure, Iida getting to realize his ultimate dream...the title may lend itself to All Might, being his catchphrase but it was the "I Am Here" moment for so many heroes here.
Alright. This episode in my opinion is one of if not THE most hyped up episode among the manga readers going into this season. And I spent the last few hours draining the pool I wept watching it because they did this episode ALL of the justice it deserves. The evacuees are watching Deku fight Shigaraki and it just can't be denied. Deku has AGAIN unleashed a new level of OFA. I can't for certain say its 100% complete YET (that requires Deku just throwing restraint to the wind and NOT breaking his arms) but judging by the gigantic energy tornado that are All-Might's trademark, we are looking at no less than 90% moved up from an estimated 75% at the start of the war. Not only does OFA get stronger the more it's controlled, but I have no doubt it also stockpiles FASTER too. With no confirmation what energy is NOT stockpiled we can assume released energy goes right back home as well which is why OFA only ever gets stronger. So at these REALLY high percentages, stockpiling ONLY gets easier. At 90% controlled even if only moment of impact that puts Deku at an astonishing Mach 24.3 for what he's controlling and Mach 27 if he decides to unleash 100%/use Fa Jin which at this point I don't even know if 100% breaks his arms anymore! (With Gearshift and Fa Jin, Deku is at Mach 33.75 but we kinda need him to breathe right now) All we need to know is that Deku is holding back Shigaraki with his bare hands who is somewhere beneath Injured All-Might, so I would say Deku is currently about physically equal to SaS and Shigaraki with no additional quirks...and we're still missing the power that matched ALL of the quirks. We have the spies of AFO trying to keep the evacuation blocks Nezu made (Good job Nezu that's 3 hackers now.) in the way of all of the big fights happening above them with Gunhead, Tetsu, Kendo, and DEATH ARMS stopping them and saving people. The retiree inspired by watching the now UNSTOPPABLE Deku fight has reignited his passion for saving lives. Endeavor admitted he respected his grit and will to strive forward and was saddened by his retirement. (And he's also a freaking OX of a man.) And like that Skeptic's hold on the hero's materials is over but the block has stayed immobile even with the loss of the spy. Dabi meanwhile has been condensing his fire ever since figuring out Flashfire Phosphor...and now we're moving EVEN FURTHER into the absurdity of the fire power of the Todoroki's. Shoto about a red star of heat, Endeavor a yellow star, and Dabi a BLUE star. He's got thermonuclear heat condensed in the middle of him right now and they say incinerate...but they mean VAPORIZE 5 km. There will be NOTHING left if he explodes. His core is as hot as a nuke. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES KELVIN. HOW IS THERE OXYGEN ANYWHERE NEAR HIM WITH THAT KIND OF FIRE AND HEAT. AND we still need an absolute MIRACLE to stop Prime AFO from getting involved in Deku's fight with Shigaraki to top it off! Deku is only a match for Shigaraki when he's NOT using quirks with MAYBE a few quirks for the 7 additional quirks. He has NOTHING for Prime AFO and if AFO takes over Shigaraki in full he stands even LESS chance to HIM using all quirks. So what's left? All-Might has worked out a plan for Dabi. Get Shoto and Iida on the move to face Dabi again. Iida, you're CRAZY fast. So run. Iida's recipro turbo is measured at top speed around Mach 28 halfway 5 minutes into the 10 minute booster with an accelerating and decelerating time leading up and winding down. And I'm betting with all the training that's happened since season 5 Iida has at LEAST increased the low points at the start and finish, but Iida is also practically FLYING so I'm also wondering if he pulled his engines out again for that. (In the manga he's running on the walls of skyscrapers shattering their windows as he steps and that is some PRECISION at the speed they're moving to time those steps. But he was floating BEFORE they took off too! Flying might not be off of Iida's power coverage!) So this CAN get Iida to the Gunga field...save for the giant fire field he can't go into. Shoto hops on his back and has been refining his ice shaping for some time and makes an ICE JET to make the accelerating THAT much faster. It's time for them to go for ANOTHER big power push for the kids. And Stain who faced Iida and marked him unworthy before now smiles as he sees him practice true altruism in the face of a nuclear explosion. Stain is proven wrong in his actions as the man he was unable to kill in Hosu is now an INCREDIBLY powerful and selfless hero living up to his brother's name and at this point surpassing him. Iida is going to freaking YEET Todoroki like a true hero. But then there is the biggest hype for me all episode and I thought this was going to finish off the episode not be the halfway point. This entire time All-Might has been planning the last counter attacks for Dabi, you may be wondering where he is. It's nowhere major. He has decided to put a 200 year grudge match to bed as he goes and tries to INTERCEPT ALL FOR ONE. You can feel the history of every passing moment as he simply waits to be seen. Remembering the two fights that came before over their long 40 years of history with OFA. He has protected Deku from the bloody history of OFA and KNOWING his fate may well ALREADY be sealed with Nighteye's foresight being in place, the timing being in place of 7 years past his major injury, the opponent being NO MORE FITTING for the role he has to commit to. But he faces it with a freaking smile. He's going to protect his son, he's going to get every last shot in he can on this immortal FREAK that an army of hero's could not. All-Might is a ONE MAN ARMY stockpile energy access or not with a willpower like that. The vast energy amount I still believe resides in him but he can't use it with his body so beaten to hell already and missing SO MANY organs. But he's gotten help for what he plans to do. This high tech car he's had and this mysterious suitcase he's carried since the rogue arc...starts to transform. Well...that is TWO Iron Man devices from the avengers. All-Might has gone from being Superman passed the torch to his son, and is now going to be Iron Man. He has been COMPLETELY off the radar of AFO in this entire war and now stands as EXACTLY the fight he wants as AFO is grinning EAR TO EAR to see his archnemesis. WHAT A FREAKING LEGEND. But the fight goes on for Gunga. Dabi and Endeavor are colliding. Endeavor has lead Dabi away from the Twice copy storm so people can move more freely. And he stares at the practical CORPSE of his son. He's just a NIGHTMARE to look at and the only thought Touya has now is just MURDER. ERUPT EVERYTHING and wipe out Endeavor. Look at him in the eyes causing him the biggest nightmare he can. All on this GIGANTIC blue fire landscape that annihilates everything. They are on the surface of a blue star on EARTH. And Endeavor wonders how has this guy POSSIBLY held himself together....and honestly thank GOODNESS this conversation of an awakening comes from Endeavor. Because the WEIRDEST THING happens right here in the manga instead as it cuts to Mr Compress and Geten chatting in prison. And Geten starts talking about his family lineage in the Himura clan...so basically he is related to Rei Todoroki. And he talks about how the family has multiple factions that have stayed a practical royal class of family and built their family the same way. And the family factions would unite to create thicker bloodlines. And it was practically the death of the clan when they started selling off main family to keep their wealth afloat. And because of that, it's not at all impossible to reason that a hidden quirk may emerge from their bloodline having a quirk awakening. If you know anything about royalty bloodlines for the past...several hundred to thousand years, he's talking about there being a lot of a word I can't write in comments that starts with "i" and that is...REALLY weird and would've broken the tension of this episode quite a bit. Basically it's just like the Fey clan from Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney in structure. Geten just decides to chat with Mr Compress randomly after the big All-Might "I Am Here" speech about this and THIS is why all now FOUR of Endeavor's kids have the ice quirk. So I think it's better a fun fact situation than a let's interrupt three of the biggest fights in the show. I can only describe as what happens when Touya's revealed in life or death to have awakened the ice fire quirk of Shoto is Endeavor to accept he needs to take this nightmare away from his family and die with what he created when the answer was always there from the beginning to just stick with his son, and NONE OF THIS would have happened. Everyone deciding...more so to comfort Touya and convince him to stop what they can...before they ALL die as a family. All trying to stop the nightmare together as they want to take responsibility for their contributions, only to be saved by Shoto who will stop at NOTHING to properly stop ALL OF IT. Let's just spare me the effort of measuring something that is NOT AT ALL possible to measure. All I can say is what LIKELY happened is once the ice and fire matched, an explosion occurred that Shoto and Endeavor subsided with their fire. Somehow, someway, it's beyond science but the powers to do it are there so I'll shrug my shoulders and say yeah I got freaking nothing. Once it all subsides everyone is in a pile scarred for life physically, mentally, emotionally, and Endeavor having resolved the threat for everyone else as a hero. Starts apologizing. For EVERYTHING. He WANTS to hear Touya say that he hates him because he deserves it. He just wants to hear his son talk. Everyone walks away with the same scars. Touya got the worst of all, and Shoto who is not responsible for ANY of the nightmare just gets to free his family of what just happened. Freed at last. And free to move forward. All of them.
in the the manga i'm pretty sure when all might flashes back to when deku asks him if he can be a quirkless hero, all might sees his middle school self standing infront of deku instead of his buff form. he sees his quirkless self being asked the question.
"There's something freeing about giving up" describes Endeavor really well too. In any other story he would've made the sacrifice but it's also him giving up - understandably in that moment, since he didn't see any better option. So it took the rest of the family stepping in for him to see a future that wasn't just dying with his son.
This time is different cause Endeavor never tried to kill himself with his prominence burn attacks cause they are just his moves, he wants to live to atone, but this time he was trying to get Toya to the air so he wouldn't kill anyone other than him while exploding
That scene with Endeavor crying at the end got to me. But it is strange because my friend is currently watching Season 6 and I am watching some of them with her. I watched this episode right before the episode where Dabi and Hawks fight and to be honest, Dabi seemed unrecognizable. On top of that, my friend hates Enveavor and just can't get past the fact that he was an abusive Dad, which is fair, especially since she has a not to great Mom, but personally speaking I couldn't agree more. There are characters in this show who did or do terrible things and never reflect or admit they are wrong, never take responsibility or even try to justify their actions. Endeavor has fully admitted his mistakes and want to atone, but it is sort of an impossible task to fully atone for something like that. I think him basically trying to self destruct on three separate occasions is just because he is ready to die, he maybe feels like dying in battle will be the ultimate self sacrifice. But I am so glad his family came here to help. It is hard to say for sure, but this might be my favourite episode of this season so far. (Although I do find it a bit odd that the title was "I am here" when it was much more about the Todoroki's than it was All Might.)
Its pretty crazy that even now people refuse to see how far gone Dabi really is. Endeavour is still blamed and decried as abusive when trying to stop his son from killing more people. I guess nowadays trying to stop your son from blowing upp more people would be abusive. Endeavour is blamed for not trying to cool down Dabi with the ice quirk he doesent have. People are so desperate to blame Endeavour for everything that they will blame him for things that he genuenly can't do because he doesent have the means to do so. Do people actually expect him to be a god and just solve everything. The defens of Dabi is especially funny when even Deku doesent even feel that bad for him and he inexplicaply still sympathises with Shigaraki despite being on the top of the list of doing some of the worst things imaginable without any remorse. With Shigaraki at least All for one put him more on the path of becoming what he is even though it does nothing to justify or exuse his actions. Dabi on his own chose to be a serial killer and took immense pride in it. Plus trying to murder the rest of his family clearly shows that Dabi didn't care about the abuse and was just mad that he wasen't the center of attention. Hell him being angry at Shoto for being better even though he was a child when everything whent down and had it even worse than him and Dabi is still jealous that he got more attention. With moments like this Dabis decriment of how bad his life was start to ring hollow when he was jealous that Shoto was being abused and not him. At best he is deluded at worst he just is a hypocrite who just wants to pull people down to his level. People willingly ignore that Dabi made his own choices and brought this end on himself when even Endeavour was already telling him to stop burning himself alive. Endeavour even at his worst never tried to kill anyone witch Dabi clearly did and reveld in. At this point anyone who just cartoonishly hates Endeavour is either just not getting over their own problems and projecting or just on the wrong side of history. Even if Endeavour managed to save Dabi and redeem him some people would probably still cope upp some way to make him abusive in that moment. Then again theese where the people who sent death threaths to Horikoshi when the manga came out meaning they where always on the wrong side. Endeavour: Directly trying to get Dabi to just kill him and nobody else. Endeavour haters: Nah clearly he is still abusive and never changed. Its pretty sad to be this deluded but I suppose people like this gives the fandom such a bad rap. Well what can you do some people just won't change and thus hate others for even trying to change even when they are fictional characters. Imagine being this insistant that this fictional character is worse than this other when that clearly isn't the case. What a sad life that must be.
Wow the endeavor hate is so thick it has taken on physical form in the real world, people seem to hate this man more than literal psychopathic murderers. All this hate seems to mean to me that as long as you have a "good" enough reason you can get away with literal murder and people will feel sorry for you and justify your mistakes.
@@Green-3c34y65vrbu Accept he didn't sexually assault his wife and its debatable if he "beat" Shouto, you could argue he started training him too early.
All Might standing up to AFO is one of my favourite parts of the series. because, AFO could win really easily. The great schemer, the cold calculating intellectual could win simply by playing the easiest move and passing overhead. Ignoring All Might. But all of that falls apart in the face of what is, essentially, the bug that refuses to be squished. It almost feels like All Might standing up is the antithesis to AFO's controlling philosophies, as he shouldn't be a factor and yet...he's still here.
Toya's tear ducts were burned long ago so he can't cry, but his flames are connected to his emotions. Endeavor's words were enough for the ice in Toya's tear ducts to melt.
Im glad that Endeavor didn't die for 1 reason only: he doesn't deserve to go out like a hero. In the grand scheme of things, he's still done next to nothing to redeem himself for YEARS of physical and emotional abuse to his kids and wife. The entire show takes place in the span of like a single year. He hasn't earned the right to die yet. I never get tired of Endeavor apologizing and people like Natsu not accepting it, because I think it's realistic. Endeavor is still terrible person at the end of the day, and I like that although Endeavor has acknowledged his terrible past and is making short strides to remedy the negative effects, the author doesn't just absolve him of all the guilt and trauma. And I wouldn't be surprised if Endeavor would be either forced to retire after this is all over, or just plummet in popularity ratings since his actions have come to light.
🙏 great episode, now all that's left is for Endeavour to commit seppuku infront of his family while they cheer, that would be the ideal ending to the Todoroki family drama, I think.
Endeavor’s English voice actor is so good. Idk why, but I just love how similar he sounds to the JP voice actor when he says «please, I’m begging you»
These last three episodes are some of the best of the series.
I remember you mentioning (in ep 10 I think) how the way Bakugo looked at himself felt more full than the way Endeavor did. With Bakugo mentioning how he has risen above it and Endeavor finding strenght in cursing his own weakness. Now Endeavor's family comes in and basically forces himself to stay alive. Needed to be saved in that sense as well I guess.
Despite all the great stuff with the Todoroki family and All Might moving me by just showing up, I was to point out Iida's contribution to this episode the most.
I love that his two big character moments in the final act thus far have been catching up to Deku in season 6 and bringing Shoto to his family here. It's not that they needed to be repaid for helping him back during the Stain fight, but the fact that he still gets to do it makes me happy, he's so different from the guy we met back in episode 4. In the extrance exam he ran from the zero point robot, and after seeing Deku go the other way and attack it he assumed he'd only done so because he figured out a trick to the test, thinking he'd only go that extra mile if he knew it benefited him in some way.
Now look at him, he's launching himself at mach 3 across hundreds of miles just to thank his friend for saying a few kinds words to him when he needed it.
He's been caught up in the seemingly endless cycle of reciprocated good natured action that's spurred out from Deku and Class-A as a whole, and now he really gets to pass on to others.
@@Tubular_dude_20y_ago Nicely said, I had forgotten about that all the way back then. Everything is different now.
As a hypothetical, I can imagine season 1 Ida being told something like: "your main contribution is going to be escorting Shoto so that he can defeat a villain."
Can't say for sure but I imagine season 1 Ida (and maybe an observing audience) would say that sounds disappointing, but for current Ida and at least for me, there's nothing more to ask for really
Honestly, for as monstrous as Touya has become, I feel like it’s only fair for the family to be the ones to ultimately save him from getting himself killed completely. And it was just in the nick of time too, since Endeavor had already given up on him yet again.
There’s a lot of complicated feelings happening here, and I honestly wasn’t expecting the whole family to end up on the battlefield, but hey, it’s finally time for Touya to get the attention he’s deserved all this time.
And that’s not even getting into All Might and Death Arms.
Yeah man clearly when Dabi was trying to blow upp civillians and the rest of the family is the right time to try and cool him down with a ice quirk Endeavour doesent even have. Plus he was fully intedning to die with him.
Endeavour haters really just come upp with any exuse to make him the bad guy. Obviously trying to stop his son from killing more people is the bad choice here. Its pretty sad when even the actual character is less deranged than people coping as them and not realizing that they devalue the character by stripping away any nuance.
@@samuelclayhills3298 Buddy, what about this comment made you think I was “making him the bad guy.” All I did was state the fact that he gave up on Touya again. 😅
Honestly, whenever people jump to defend the guy whenever someone brings up something that he did that was at the very least morally questionable is what takes away those “nuances” you’re talking about. 😅
That final scene really shows just how much Endeavor broke this family. Its incredibly sad
Seeing Toya's ice quirk awaken was a really bitter pill to swallow, knowing that he had her ice quirk in him all along, making Toya the son that Endeavor had wanted from the beginning. Really making it feel like this was all for nothing. This truly was all Endeavor's responsibility. The Todoroki family storyline is without the best subplot MHA had.
Yeah but also in the words of Shoto (I think): "You're the only one who decided to burn people" Maybe not the exact quote but yeah Toya is still to blame for all the deaths he caused. Deku kind of came to the same conclusion with the whole "it's your quirk not his" that he recycled and used on Toya a season or 2 ago. Endeavor had a lot to make up for but he also put more than he actually had to make up for on his shoulders by shouldering every single death and every emotion Toya felt even though some of which were not his fault besides the initial mistreatment of Toya.
@WhatsIQ I never once said I'm excusing Toya for anything, but it's true none of this would've ever happened if it wasn't for Endeavor. The monster Toya had become, and the hellish Todoroki family saga is his fault, and it's his responsibility.
@@gantashiro978 But the same thing could be said about most scenarios you wouldn't do the opposite and go "it's endeavors reason shoto is strong hero" people make their own decisions even if they were pushed into a certain direction
@WhatsIQ Lol wtf is wrong with you, why are you even arguing with me on this. You're trying to create a debate over nothing. Literally, everyone is in agreement that this is Endeavors fault. Both fans and ALL of the characters in the story itself including Endeavor himself. Nobody, not Shoto, not any of his children, not any of the people who are aware of what happened, and not Endeavor himself. NOBODY IS DEFENDING HIM. So, what are you trying to prove a point or something? Stop wasting my time.
@WhatsIQ Do you have a mental deficiency and are unable to tell that more than one person can be responsible for something? You're acting like if someone says it's Endeavors fault that doesn't mean blame can be put on anyone else at all 😅 like I said I never excused Toya for anything, nobody forced him to murder people, he made the choice to do it. Tell me where in any of my comments did I say Toya is innocent? WHERE? What happened with Toya is solely Endeavor's responsibility to bear because he created this whole thing in the first place. But it doesn't make Toya any less guilty for the crimes he committed. Someone can be solely responsible for something while others in question are still no less guilty for it. It's Endeavors responsibility, but Toya isn't innocent in anything at all. Are you unable to get that through your skull?
So far you are the only reactor to even mention Mineta most of them laughed at him during that scene then moved on. #JusticeForMineta
@@WhatsIQ disregarding characters based on appearances and stature even after all we've been through 😭
@@AGoodwinTV For some reason he's the only character people ignore the character development just because of the comedic element of his character 😭
Mostley because he was/is a pervert witch is extremly hyppocritical coming from this fandom as most of the horndogs here make him look tame.
@@WhatsIQ He honestly does deserve a fair amount of respect.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Mineta had a more comprehensible arc than Endeavor.
Very emotional episode overall. However it's kinda crazy that Dabi was able to "unlock" ice, and in the process become (the old) endeavors "perfect" son.
Which is oddly fitting/full circle that after everything the todoroki's had gone through they all quite literally confronted and put a stop to that "evil" that endeavor first brought upon all of them.
The anime omitted a piece of a chapter during the beginning.
In prison, Compress and Geten are discussing their family histories. Geten reveals he's from the same family as Todoroki's mother.
The family was obsessed with their self-image, hated heteromorphs, was proud of being pureblood to the point of inbreeding, leading to some mental issues, possibly suggesting an undiagnosed hereditary origin of why Toya became vicious so quickly as a child when Endeavor stopped spending time with him.
I heard geten was related to Todoroki I just didn't know how but that's interesting
I still can't believe the anime removed this
@Green-3c34y65vrbu They can possibly add it in during the season 7 recap like they added in the scene where the league kills that cult a season after it should've been shown.
Not gonna lie, Endeavor apologizing to everyone, saying sorry for not going to sekoto peak and seeing the frozen tear down Toya's face as he says I hate you dad had me weeping 😢😢 going into this as a manga reader I knew this was going to be emotional, and it delivered
7:06 I never thought about it in that way,that's amazing holy hell
I always felt that it was really important that the whole family was there with Dabi. Enji's relationship with his son has had a lot of screen time, and Shoto in general has had a lot of screen time so we care about how he might feel about his older brother, but the other siblings and mom also are important. THEY must be holding some guilt over what Toya turned into. Dabi was mad at EVERYONE, not just his father, so he needed to vent at them as well. Everyone needed to be here and do this for their own sakes.
The camera showing a closeup for AFO's face of pure visceral hatred while looking down on AM, then switching to 'I Am Here' gave me insane chills, had to start rubbing down both my arms. AM with no quirk out in the cold rain, completely fearless and smiling like its his birthday looking up at this almost divine figure of a vengeful god, barreling directly towards HIM. An insignificant middle-aged man with a permanent injury. This is gonna be absolutely insane, the final battle between the Symbol of Villainy and the Symbol of Heroism will be one for the ages.
There’s actually a deleted scene where Geten explains that he’s a member of Rei’s clan. They’ve got a history of doing what Endeavor did to her. Makes her backstory even more tragic
I'm not gunna lie, your friend is a real one what a chad man BIG W'S to your friend that got punched 💯
A visual bit of symbolism the anime omitted:
When All Might remembers when Midoriya asked if it's possible to be a hero without a quirk, All Might thinks about what would have happened had it been young All Might being asked that question.
For me that “I am here” was the most hype moment in the whole series.
My read on Enji is that he truly believes the life of the people around him would be better off without him.
Meaning, if he dies, he dies. Its not like he ever sees himself WITH his family in his visions.
And that to me means, Enji doesnt believe he truly is a good man, or that he can be a good man, that he could ever join his family and for them to be still happy.
The OFA fight kinda showed us that Enji believes that anger is his drive(even after Hawks asks for Enji to calm down, he is unable to) , what kept him alive, what made him win so many times, but also what screwed up everyon´s life...is anger.
And when you have this fire in yourself that you are not sure if you can control...I think you decide to stay away, especially if you alreayd burned the people you love so many times. I mean there is hope, coz it isnt like Enji had actual time to process everything and our man needs like a decade of therapy, but also IF Touya truly dies,the son who was the "perfect creation" Enji wanted form the beginning with fire and ice...the son that honestly seeked his approva the most, yeah that is gonna be almost impossible to overcome for a parent that they had a hand in the destruction of their child, and it was all SO avoidable.
The biggest, and honestly saddest piece to all of this is that honestly… Endeavor is right to hate himself for what he did. I’d honestly respect him less if he didn’t (not that I have THAT much respect for the guy).
This entire situation was one of his own making, and when you realize something like that, any logical person would absolutely loathe themselves for starting this.
He’s finally self-aware, but at the cost of basically everything he cares for.
Sad to think Toya did have the ice ability, but it could only be brought upon when his body was near death.
Only way Toya would ever become half-cold half-hot is by destroying himself, and the only reason Endeavor now knows this is because of a situation that never should have happened, a situation Endeavor understands he was the catalyst of.
And the family joining in, because they allowed themselves to be mere bystanders when Toya was hurting himself in the past.
This rightfully is one of the best episodes of the series. So many themes at play here - All Might's convictions, the Todoroki family getting some form of closure, Iida getting to realize his ultimate dream...the title may lend itself to All Might, being his catchphrase but it was the "I Am Here" moment for so many heroes here.
Truly one of the best ep this season and prolly in the entire series!
Btw, Watermelon-san got a drip change i see! 😂
@@zimzalabim5633 new apartment, new look 😂
This is my favorite episode of the season tbh, its just so good, everything about it made me cry since Toya qas shown to have Rei's ice all along
Alright. This episode in my opinion is one of if not THE most hyped up episode among the manga readers going into this season. And I spent the last few hours draining the pool I wept watching it because they did this episode ALL of the justice it deserves.
The evacuees are watching Deku fight Shigaraki and it just can't be denied. Deku has AGAIN unleashed a new level of OFA. I can't for certain say its 100% complete YET (that requires Deku just throwing restraint to the wind and NOT breaking his arms) but judging by the gigantic energy tornado that are All-Might's trademark, we are looking at no less than 90% moved up from an estimated 75% at the start of the war. Not only does OFA get stronger the more it's controlled, but I have no doubt it also stockpiles FASTER too. With no confirmation what energy is NOT stockpiled we can assume released energy goes right back home as well which is why OFA only ever gets stronger. So at these REALLY high percentages, stockpiling ONLY gets easier. At 90% controlled even if only moment of impact that puts Deku at an astonishing Mach 24.3 for what he's controlling and Mach 27 if he decides to unleash 100%/use Fa Jin which at this point I don't even know if 100% breaks his arms anymore! (With Gearshift and Fa Jin, Deku is at Mach 33.75 but we kinda need him to breathe right now) All we need to know is that Deku is holding back Shigaraki with his bare hands who is somewhere beneath Injured All-Might, so I would say Deku is currently about physically equal to SaS and Shigaraki with no additional quirks...and we're still missing the power that matched ALL of the quirks.
We have the spies of AFO trying to keep the evacuation blocks Nezu made (Good job Nezu that's 3 hackers now.) in the way of all of the big fights happening above them with Gunhead, Tetsu, Kendo, and DEATH ARMS stopping them and saving people. The retiree inspired by watching the now UNSTOPPABLE Deku fight has reignited his passion for saving lives. Endeavor admitted he respected his grit and will to strive forward and was saddened by his retirement. (And he's also a freaking OX of a man.) And like that Skeptic's hold on the hero's materials is over but the block has stayed immobile even with the loss of the spy.
Dabi meanwhile has been condensing his fire ever since figuring out Flashfire Phosphor...and now we're moving EVEN FURTHER into the absurdity of the fire power of the Todoroki's. Shoto about a red star of heat, Endeavor a yellow star, and Dabi a BLUE star. He's got thermonuclear heat condensed in the middle of him right now and they say incinerate...but they mean VAPORIZE 5 km. There will be NOTHING left if he explodes. His core is as hot as a nuke. HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DEGREES KELVIN. HOW IS THERE OXYGEN ANYWHERE NEAR HIM WITH THAT KIND OF FIRE AND HEAT. AND we still need an absolute MIRACLE to stop Prime AFO from getting involved in Deku's fight with Shigaraki to top it off! Deku is only a match for Shigaraki when he's NOT using quirks with MAYBE a few quirks for the 7 additional quirks. He has NOTHING for Prime AFO and if AFO takes over Shigaraki in full he stands even LESS chance to HIM using all quirks. So what's left?
All-Might has worked out a plan for Dabi. Get Shoto and Iida on the move to face Dabi again. Iida, you're CRAZY fast. So run. Iida's recipro turbo is measured at top speed around Mach 28 halfway 5 minutes into the 10 minute booster with an accelerating and decelerating time leading up and winding down. And I'm betting with all the training that's happened since season 5 Iida has at LEAST increased the low points at the start and finish, but Iida is also practically FLYING so I'm also wondering if he pulled his engines out again for that. (In the manga he's running on the walls of skyscrapers shattering their windows as he steps and that is some PRECISION at the speed they're moving to time those steps. But he was floating BEFORE they took off too! Flying might not be off of Iida's power coverage!) So this CAN get Iida to the Gunga field...save for the giant fire field he can't go into. Shoto hops on his back and has been refining his ice shaping for some time and makes an ICE JET to make the accelerating THAT much faster. It's time for them to go for ANOTHER big power push for the kids. And Stain who faced Iida and marked him unworthy before now smiles as he sees him practice true altruism in the face of a nuclear explosion. Stain is proven wrong in his actions as the man he was unable to kill in Hosu is now an INCREDIBLY powerful and selfless hero living up to his brother's name and at this point surpassing him. Iida is going to freaking YEET Todoroki like a true hero.
But then there is the biggest hype for me all episode and I thought this was going to finish off the episode not be the halfway point. This entire time All-Might has been planning the last counter attacks for Dabi, you may be wondering where he is. It's nowhere major. He has decided to put a 200 year grudge match to bed as he goes and tries to INTERCEPT ALL FOR ONE. You can feel the history of every passing moment as he simply waits to be seen. Remembering the two fights that came before over their long 40 years of history with OFA. He has protected Deku from the bloody history of OFA and KNOWING his fate may well ALREADY be sealed with Nighteye's foresight being in place, the timing being in place of 7 years past his major injury, the opponent being NO MORE FITTING for the role he has to commit to. But he faces it with a freaking smile. He's going to protect his son, he's going to get every last shot in he can on this immortal FREAK that an army of hero's could not. All-Might is a ONE MAN ARMY stockpile energy access or not with a willpower like that. The vast energy amount I still believe resides in him but he can't use it with his body so beaten to hell already and missing SO MANY organs. But he's gotten help for what he plans to do. This high tech car he's had and this mysterious suitcase he's carried since the rogue arc...starts to transform. Well...that is TWO Iron Man devices from the avengers. All-Might has gone from being Superman passed the torch to his son, and is now going to be Iron Man. He has been COMPLETELY off the radar of AFO in this entire war and now stands as EXACTLY the fight he wants as AFO is grinning EAR TO EAR to see his archnemesis. WHAT A FREAKING LEGEND.
But the fight goes on for Gunga. Dabi and Endeavor are colliding. Endeavor has lead Dabi away from the Twice copy storm so people can move more freely. And he stares at the practical CORPSE of his son. He's just a NIGHTMARE to look at and the only thought Touya has now is just MURDER. ERUPT EVERYTHING and wipe out Endeavor. Look at him in the eyes causing him the biggest nightmare he can. All on this GIGANTIC blue fire landscape that annihilates everything. They are on the surface of a blue star on EARTH. And Endeavor wonders how has this guy POSSIBLY held himself together....and honestly thank GOODNESS this conversation of an awakening comes from Endeavor. Because the WEIRDEST THING happens right here in the manga instead as it cuts to Mr Compress and Geten chatting in prison. And Geten starts talking about his family lineage in the Himura clan...so basically he is related to Rei Todoroki. And he talks about how the family has multiple factions that have stayed a practical royal class of family and built their family the same way. And the family factions would unite to create thicker bloodlines. And it was practically the death of the clan when they started selling off main family to keep their wealth afloat. And because of that, it's not at all impossible to reason that a hidden quirk may emerge from their bloodline having a quirk awakening. If you know anything about royalty bloodlines for the past...several hundred to thousand years, he's talking about there being a lot of a word I can't write in comments that starts with "i" and that is...REALLY weird and would've broken the tension of this episode quite a bit. Basically it's just like the Fey clan from Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney in structure. Geten just decides to chat with Mr Compress randomly after the big All-Might "I Am Here" speech about this and THIS is why all now FOUR of Endeavor's kids have the ice quirk. So I think it's better a fun fact situation than a let's interrupt three of the biggest fights in the show.
I can only describe as what happens when Touya's revealed in life or death to have awakened the ice fire quirk of Shoto is Endeavor to accept he needs to take this nightmare away from his family and die with what he created when the answer was always there from the beginning to just stick with his son, and NONE OF THIS would have happened. Everyone deciding...more so to comfort Touya and convince him to stop what they can...before they ALL die as a family. All trying to stop the nightmare together as they want to take responsibility for their contributions, only to be saved by Shoto who will stop at NOTHING to properly stop ALL OF IT. Let's just spare me the effort of measuring something that is NOT AT ALL possible to measure. All I can say is what LIKELY happened is once the ice and fire matched, an explosion occurred that Shoto and Endeavor subsided with their fire. Somehow, someway, it's beyond science but the powers to do it are there so I'll shrug my shoulders and say yeah I got freaking nothing. Once it all subsides everyone is in a pile scarred for life physically, mentally, emotionally, and Endeavor having resolved the threat for everyone else as a hero. Starts apologizing. For EVERYTHING. He WANTS to hear Touya say that he hates him because he deserves it. He just wants to hear his son talk. Everyone walks away with the same scars. Touya got the worst of all, and Shoto who is not responsible for ANY of the nightmare just gets to free his family of what just happened. Freed at last. And free to move forward. All of them.
This is easily the best season of the show at this point
Stain before: you are a fake hero Ida!!! Current stain: i was not familiar with you game bro my bad 💯
in the the manga i'm pretty sure when all might flashes back to when deku asks him if he can be a quirkless hero, all might sees his middle school self standing infront of deku instead of his buff form. he sees his quirkless self being asked the question.
Yes.
"There's something freeing about giving up" describes Endeavor really well too. In any other story he would've made the sacrifice but it's also him giving up - understandably in that moment, since he didn't see any better option. So it took the rest of the family stepping in for him to see a future that wasn't just dying with his son.
This time is different cause Endeavor never tried to kill himself with his prominence burn attacks cause they are just his moves, he wants to live to atone, but this time he was trying to get Toya to the air so he wouldn't kill anyone other than him while exploding
Amazing episode,probanly the best one of the anime
That scene with Endeavor crying at the end got to me. But it is strange because my friend is currently watching Season 6 and I am watching some of them with her. I watched this episode right before the episode where Dabi and Hawks fight and to be honest, Dabi seemed unrecognizable. On top of that, my friend hates Enveavor and just can't get past the fact that he was an abusive Dad, which is fair, especially since she has a not to great Mom, but personally speaking I couldn't agree more.
There are characters in this show who did or do terrible things and never reflect or admit they are wrong, never take responsibility or even try to justify their actions. Endeavor has fully admitted his mistakes and want to atone, but it is sort of an impossible task to fully atone for something like that. I think him basically trying to self destruct on three separate occasions is just because he is ready to die, he maybe feels like dying in battle will be the ultimate self sacrifice. But I am so glad his family came here to help.
It is hard to say for sure, but this might be my favourite episode of this season so far. (Although I do find it a bit odd that the title was "I am here" when it was much more about the Todoroki's than it was All Might.)
Its pretty crazy that even now people refuse to see how far gone Dabi really is. Endeavour is still blamed and decried as abusive when trying to stop his son from killing more people. I guess nowadays trying to stop your son from blowing upp more people would be abusive. Endeavour is blamed for not trying to cool down Dabi with the ice quirk he doesent have. People are so desperate to blame Endeavour for everything that they will blame him for things that he genuenly can't do because he doesent have the means to do so. Do people actually expect him to be a god and just solve everything. The defens of Dabi is especially funny when even Deku doesent even feel that bad for him and he inexplicaply still sympathises with Shigaraki despite being on the top of the list of doing some of the worst things imaginable without any remorse. With Shigaraki at least All for one put him more on the path of becoming what he is even though it does nothing to justify or exuse his actions. Dabi on his own chose to be a serial killer and took immense pride in it. Plus trying to murder the rest of his family clearly shows that Dabi didn't care about the abuse and was just mad that he wasen't the center of attention. Hell him being angry at Shoto for being better even though he was a child when everything whent down and had it even worse than him and Dabi is still jealous that he got more attention. With moments like this Dabis decriment of how bad his life was start to ring hollow when he was jealous that Shoto was being abused and not him. At best he is deluded at worst he just is a hypocrite who just wants to pull people down to his level. People willingly ignore that Dabi made his own choices and brought this end on himself when even Endeavour was already telling him to stop burning himself alive. Endeavour even at his worst never tried to kill anyone witch Dabi clearly did and reveld in. At this point anyone who just cartoonishly hates Endeavour is either just not getting over their own problems and projecting or just on the wrong side of history. Even if Endeavour managed to save Dabi and redeem him some people would probably still cope upp some way to make him abusive in that moment. Then again theese where the people who sent death threaths to Horikoshi when the manga came out meaning they where always on the wrong side.
Endeavour: Directly trying to get Dabi to just kill him and nobody else.
Endeavour haters: Nah clearly he is still abusive and never changed.
Its pretty sad to be this deluded but I suppose people like this gives the fandom such a bad rap. Well what can you do some people just won't change and thus hate others for even trying to change even when they are fictional characters. Imagine being this insistant that this fictional character is worse than this other when that clearly isn't the case. What a sad life that must be.
The last 2 episodes of the season are blocked?
Wow the endeavor hate is so thick it has taken on physical form in the real world, people seem to hate this man more than literal psychopathic murderers. All this hate seems to mean to me that as long as you have a "good" enough reason you can get away with literal murder and people will feel sorry for you and justify your mistakes.
yeah it turns out if a character sexually assaults his wife and beats his kids people will hate him, who knew
@@Green-3c34y65vrbu Accept he didn't sexually assault his wife and its debatable if he "beat" Shouto, you could argue he started training him too early.
@@OuroborosTheInvincible weird beheviour
@@Green-3c34y65vrbu So you never intended to have a conversation and were looking for an excuse to switch to adhominems? Good were done here.
@@OuroborosTheInvincible what the fuck did you even just say dog
All Might standing up to AFO is one of my favourite parts of the series. because, AFO could win really easily. The great schemer, the cold calculating intellectual could win simply by playing the easiest move and passing overhead. Ignoring All Might. But all of that falls apart in the face of what is, essentially, the bug that refuses to be squished. It almost feels like All Might standing up is the antithesis to AFO's controlling philosophies, as he shouldn't be a factor and yet...he's still here.
Toya's tear ducts were burned long ago so he can't cry, but his flames are connected to his emotions.
Endeavor's words were enough for the ice in Toya's tear ducts to melt.
nice
Im glad that Endeavor didn't die for 1 reason only: he doesn't deserve to go out like a hero. In the grand scheme of things, he's still done next to nothing to redeem himself for YEARS of physical and emotional abuse to his kids and wife. The entire show takes place in the span of like a single year. He hasn't earned the right to die yet. I never get tired of Endeavor apologizing and people like Natsu not accepting it, because I think it's realistic. Endeavor is still terrible person at the end of the day, and I like that although Endeavor has acknowledged his terrible past and is making short strides to remedy the negative effects, the author doesn't just absolve him of all the guilt and trauma. And I wouldn't be surprised if Endeavor would be either forced to retire after this is all over, or just plummet in popularity ratings since his actions have come to light.
banger
🙏 great episode, now all that's left is for Endeavour to commit seppuku infront of his family while they cheer, that would be the ideal ending to the Todoroki family drama, I think.
@@Green-3c34y65vrbu Definitely seems like he's been trying