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  • @TheProdigyAccordion
    @TheProdigyAccordion 8 років тому +256

    They may have not actually sang the original songs, but they damn well entertained and danced top of the line. Yall got to give them that

  • @khendywu3684
    @khendywu3684 5 років тому +97

    Nobody can stop me to respect n love fab n rob...

  • @darkcrow13
    @darkcrow13 3 роки тому +24

    With today's technology these guys would have been able to sing for themselves with auto tune and such. But this was the end 80's.
    Sure they were lip syncing, but they got locked in with contracts and could not get out of. They should have had lawyers look them over first but the were young and star struck. They thought they had their dream coming true.
    But I do take my hat off. The actual voices of Milli Vanilli just worked in the studio and thats it. These two were the heart, soul and face of Milli Vanilli. They were the ones who worked their asses off doing tours, music videos, press conferences, and special appearances. They were the actual performers of the group, made connections with the fans, entertained and put on shows and therefore they were Milli Vanilli!!
    The other people were simply tools of the show and nothing more.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 3 роки тому +1

      The Grammy was a different beast though. The Recording Academy is the learned society of the entire music industry and Milli Vanilli winning one of their awards clearly threatened to throw the whole organization’s credibility into question, especially since Milli had won under false pretenses. Milli’s record label in America, Arista Records, had prominently credited Rob & Fab as the vocalists in the liner notes of their records. The Grammys are about the overall merit of the music. Milli Vanilli had to be disqualified.

  • @robdisner
    @robdisner 3 роки тому +58

    My claim to fame. I worked at Ocean Way and set up those two mics for this press conference nearly 30 years ago.

    • @keepingitreal5533
      @keepingitreal5533 3 роки тому +6

      Nice, Rob. Hey, setting up mics is an important job, lol👍🏾🎤 Did you stay for the Milli Vanilli press conference itself?

    • @robdisner
      @robdisner 3 роки тому +12

      @@keepingitreal5533 Oh yeah. I was there! I also parked their Jeep once at a different studio. They tipped me a dollar!

    • @keepingitreal5533
      @keepingitreal5533 3 роки тому +7

      @@robdisner lol... Well I guess a dollar is a lot considering you weren't an official valet person. That's funny though. They seem like nice guys that just got caught up. You're one of the rare people that got a glimpse.

    • @robdisner
      @robdisner 3 роки тому +10

      @@keepingitreal5533 I actually was an official valet person! That was my first job in LA. I worked for the recording studio, but my job was to man the parking lot! Believe it or not, the promotion was to come inside the building and work as the janitor.

    • @sydnibaker1628
      @sydnibaker1628 3 роки тому +1

      That is really cool haha. To live a life. Wow

  • @margaretmeyer1163
    @margaretmeyer1163 3 роки тому +20

    They are absolutely beautiful...I love them

  • @upclose22
    @upclose22 4 роки тому +49

    Thing is they addressed the press right away. Sad how this all blew up in their face. They were young and clearly taken advantage of. It’s amazing how producers get away with digging out their artists.

  • @FoneArc
    @FoneArc 5 років тому +92

    Funny thing is they had “good enough” voices to sing those songs. Rob may have had a strong accent, but that could’ve been edited in the studio.

    • @Kalle72
      @Kalle72 5 років тому +13

      FoneArc How would you “edit” accents in a studio in the late 80’s?!

    • @keepingitreal5533
      @keepingitreal5533 3 роки тому +8

      @@Kalle72 maybe "edit" isn't the best word, but they could have definitely had a vocal coach work with them and get as many takes as they needed to to get it to sound right ♥️🎵

    • @PauloHowlett
      @PauloHowlett 3 роки тому

      Só Rob could lipsync himself?

    • @PauloHowlett
      @PauloHowlett 3 роки тому

      The actual singer had a strong accent too.

    • @keepingitreal5533
      @keepingitreal5533 3 роки тому

      @@PauloHowlett John Davis?

  • @anastasialozovaia1047
    @anastasialozovaia1047 4 роки тому +17

    Rob and Fab ARE AMAZING SINGERS AND DANCERS. LOVE YOU FOREVER ❤️❣️

  • @simonezuri8303
    @simonezuri8303 4 роки тому +21

    Rest In Peace Robert Pilatus 💞

  • @herminamandi1298
    @herminamandi1298 3 роки тому +7

    Rob and fav are very honest people we love u both

  • @barbarapietruczanis783
    @barbarapietruczanis783 8 років тому +74

    i love them.always and forever.x

    • @jmj7677
      @jmj7677 8 років тому +4

      me too😍

    • @turtled130
      @turtled130 5 років тому

      They do WORST SCANDALS in music

    • @aidawoodard722
      @aidawoodard722 4 роки тому

      They will always have my ♥️ heart!!

  • @OtomoTenzi
    @OtomoTenzi 3 роки тому +16

    I am so proud of Rob and Fab! These 2 brave guys came out to the world and spoke the HONEST TRUTH about how and why they were scammed/jacked by some corrupt music producers... Even despite all of the threats and lawsuits they have received. You really gotta give 'em a great amount of respect and credit just for being so brave and honest like that! These men can not only sing and dance EXTREMELY WELL, but they truly represent just how COOL and SEXY late 80s/early 90s musicians should be like. You can no longer see anybody like them on the streets anymore. The way they dressed, the way they talked, and their gentlemen-like, polite European mannerisms (even the way they moved) are just on a whole other entire different level compared to today's modern-day FAILURES and DISASTERS. I know it is important to first learn how to love yourself, before learning how to love others; but FUCK today's people and FUCK their style of music in general!

  • @tsaileejuan
    @tsaileejuan 10 років тому +141

    But Rob and Fab are real performers

  • @farymercadocortez7269
    @farymercadocortez7269 7 років тому +15

    Estos artistas jamas se escondieron de la prensa. Siempre fueron balientes en dar la cara! Y Rob Pilatus se consumio en la depresion y lamentablemente fallecio. Amo a Rob Pilatus!!!

  • @ЕвгенийДорош
    @ЕвгенийДорош 4 роки тому +8

    очень любим эту группу, неважно чей голос, просто обажаю .

  • @jess.1962
    @jess.1962 6 років тому +28

    Rob and fab very sweet💞

  • @domestickenosis5681
    @domestickenosis5681 5 років тому +32

    I feel so sorry for them. RIP

    • @Sindollx666x
      @Sindollx666x 2 роки тому

      @AlbertaStrength Rob ❤️ but it is still sad, because when it came out they didn't hide, they told the truth and forgive the pun, faced the music. I just wish the world would've been a little kinder to them, maybe Rob would still be with us.
      I had a band manager try and take advantage of me for my look and local influence in the late 1990s and early 2000s.
      I sang myself, but my manager was trying to market me to line his pockets. I got out before it got too far. But I paid with rumors of my death (which they are lucky they took it down off the website before I was able to see it & screen shot it, I still had dial up internet at the time!) And then he tried to sue me for lost investments into merch, though we sold out of the tees with my likeness on them, there were still copies of my demo cd and full color photo sleeve-- they didn't show up to their own lawsuit in small claims court so it was dismissed. He still passed my demo out for a year after that. In fact about 6 years later I was put in contact with a guy from the east coast who did a nice review of my demo cd, but he had been told I was dead. I got to dispel that little rumor and he updated his cd review.
      I also had my tires slashed on my car multiple times & my vehicle and the one after it stolen numerous times.
      Karma caught up with him though - he started having major health issues & he was sued by the band KISS for 8 million dollars, for bootlegging.
      He also tried at one point to "replace me" with a look a like & give her my stage name but they never managed to find my visual equal, so it never happened.

  • @summer1810
    @summer1810 2 місяці тому +1

    Ich liebe die beiden ❤ob sie gesungen haben oder nicht, die Shows waren überirdisch, FAB singt super schön und es tut mir im Herzen weh, dass Rob nicht mehr da ist,❣️

  • @jamesmitchell487
    @jamesmitchell487 9 років тому +72

    They should just blame it on the rain

    • @robccampos18
      @robccampos18 7 років тому +3

      James Mitchell wtf, what do u mean blame it on the rain?

    • @jamesmitchell487
      @jamesmitchell487 7 років тому +10

      Roberto Carlos "Blame it on the Rain" is the title to one of their songs; I was trying to make a funny there

    • @robccampos18
      @robccampos18 7 років тому +3

      Is that one of their songs? I gotta check it out. Ok trying to be funny huh!

    • @secondaccounte1209
      @secondaccounte1209 4 роки тому +4

      @@robccampos18 of you missed that reference you're young

    • @secondaccounte1209
      @secondaccounte1209 4 роки тому

      @@jamesmitchell487 it was.. It was

  • @JanaynaDrew1145
    @JanaynaDrew1145 8 років тому +36

    heroes Fab and Rob :)

  • @celinajasik848
    @celinajasik848 4 роки тому +5

    I LOVE MILLI VANILLI FOREVER 💟 ROB & FAB 💟💟R.I.P ROB PILATUS 💟💟😓😓😓😓💟💟

  • @TheVarietyArchive1115
    @TheVarietyArchive1115 3 роки тому +4

    R.I.P.
    Rob Pilatus and John Davis

  • @carmenschenzinger7814
    @carmenschenzinger7814 3 роки тому +7

    They are the REAL milli vanilli. Always 😇💜💜🙏

  • @StannisHarlock
    @StannisHarlock 5 років тому +11

    Girl, you know it's TRUE!

  • @user-zc7jk9gv3b
    @user-zc7jk9gv3b 3 роки тому +10

    their english wasn't even that bad

    • @773SleepyHollow
      @773SleepyHollow 3 роки тому +7

      Seriously... Arnold made a ton of movies and served as California governor with as thick of an accent.

  • @L.S.120
    @L.S.120 3 роки тому +6

    Классная группа!У них и свои голоса хорошие были!Учитывая,что сейчас даже Бузова поёт.Могли бы офигенно раскрутится!А внешность вообще отпад!

  • @tonyrobles2696
    @tonyrobles2696 6 місяців тому +2

    WE DONT CARE,WE ALLWAYS LIKE THEM❤❤

  • @erickanew
    @erickanew 5 років тому +10

    How in the world did people believe they sang those songs. They couldn't even speak English clearly. & those songs were so clear in English

    • @xijinping5908
      @xijinping5908 4 роки тому +12

      there are so many people in the world who can't speak english clearly, But they can sing in english.

    • @elmaicmat9454
      @elmaicmat9454 3 роки тому

      Yes ur absolutely right look rob accent

    • @sydnibaker1628
      @sydnibaker1628 3 роки тому

      @@xijinping5908 ABBA

    • @spongebobsquarepants3770
      @spongebobsquarepants3770 3 роки тому +2

      it just goes to prove how easily some people can be fooled, nowadays

  • @travisscott9057
    @travisscott9057 9 років тому +16

    Although I don't hate them for what they did because they were caught up in a scandal by their record producers. I feel that if they knew what they were doing was wrong then they should have came forward before they were caught. Maybe the backlash would have been different. I feel bad for Rob tho. This who,e scandal is what ultimately lead to him killing himself. He could never escape this misfortune that ruined his life. I feel that everyone put the blame on the wrong guys and should have came down harder on the record execs..

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 8 років тому +13

      They did know it was wrong, that's why Frank Farian ultimately told the media they were fakes, because it was the only way for Rob & Fab to free themselves pretty much from being his professional puppets. They had signed a contract without lawyers or managers or even really reading it themselves, not having a clue what they would be really used for until it was too late. Then, the group got so big that there was no way they could escape. Their manager said Rob & Fab tried several times to quit Milli Vanilli, because they hated having to essentially live a lie, but they couldn't break out of their record contract. They were pretty much Frank Farian's professional slaves.

    • @newtongirl6017
      @newtongirl6017 8 років тому +4

      Yes that is true.

    • @vamp4403
      @vamp4403 6 років тому +4

      Travis, I feel the same way. I wonder if this is when Rob started drinking real bad. I know he had a few suicide attempts before he passed. I know if I was in that situation I would've been trying to escape life also. I'm shocked that Rob didn't become a model back then, his look was very unique

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 3 роки тому +4

      @@vamp4403 Rob had a lot of problems even before Milli Vanilli. He was the illegitimate son of an African American GI and a German stripper, adopted when he was 4, constantly clashed with a very conservative German adopted father, and ran away from home when he was 13. Milli Vanilli was pretty much the happiest time in his whole life. Fab has said that Rob had become totally sucked into the idea that the fame and the money was never going to stop and Rob was hardly any bit as emotionally prepared for Milli Vanilli to end as Fab was. As far as the modeling goes, Rob has said that he and Fab were basically too small to have really successful modeling careers, that they had to stand on phone books for photo shoots and compete with American models that were over 6 feet tall.

  • @wendygurley6739
    @wendygurley6739 3 роки тому +2

    Love these guys they were stuck

  • @shanitrahan9904
    @shanitrahan9904 7 років тому +17

    Rob and fab are milli vanilli not frank farian

  • @vich4710
    @vich4710 2 роки тому +2

    Damn Rob had the thickkest accent

  • @Marichka873
    @Marichka873 3 роки тому +6

    They took all hit on them, but they shouldn't say anything! Just pull the contract and say* we follow the contract!* Blame it on producer. That's it.

  • @RBS_
    @RBS_ 4 роки тому +9

    ....oh, wow....STORYTIME, Kids, It's gonna be loooonnngggg..
    ...I knew from MINUTE ONE, Feb / March 1989, when I saw the video for "Girl...", that they did NOT sing that song, or ANY of the songs....you see, I was a mid-level professional dancer (1987- 1993), and, when you sing and dance, your body 'flow' has to be adjacent to your 'singing ability'...Janet, Michael, Madonna, ETC, hire choreographers that help them with proper choreo 'movement' to also 'sing', to...Milli Vanilli did not have ANY of that...
    ...The hi-fives, the jumps, the side-to-side skips, shows that the 'singing' connection didn't have the proper 'body' connection...THAT only happens, is when someone is just 'dancing' to someones' tracked vocals...THERE U GO......and, NO ONE believed me; "Baby Don't Forget"...#1, "Girl I'm Gonna Miss"..#1, "Blame It On The Rain"...#1, "All Or Nothing"...#5, the BEST NEW ARTIST GRAMMY.... and then, the S#@T's about to hit...BAM!
    ...Oh WOW....EVERY Newspaper. EVERY Newscast. EVERY Talk Show... MILLI VANILLI PHONI BALONI, was the BEST newspaper headline that I remember....and THEN, this conference...
    .....And looking back, these Two young Men REALLY took the brunt of the insidious nonsense that (continues!) to go on in the Music Industry; and, to be THAT strong enough, to face THE WORLD, and state your error & mistakes, makes me RESPECT them more NOW, than what was presented to me back then....You really have to have a STRONG sense of self to admit to your mistakes, and look what THEY had to face...Fab didn't have the core; he wanted FAME, and showed he couldn't handle it....but this conference showed that he (and Rob) were HUMAN...
    ...AND, look what happened afterwards; SINGERS were having to prove themselves at the time, and gave us Wilson Phillips, Marc Cohn, EnVouge, Mariah Carey, Boyz II Men, Toni Braxton, Celine Dion, and MANY others that PROVED their singing abilities, and kickstarted 90's Pop...
    ...Blame It On The Rain? ....I blame it on The Music Industry...Rob & Fab did what they were paid to do, and did it WELL....I got MY money's worth....and you KNOW it's 'true'....

    • @secondaccounte1209
      @secondaccounte1209 4 роки тому +5

      These days people "perform" and that's it anyways. They were just ahead of their times

    • @LinkRocks
      @LinkRocks 4 роки тому +1

      @@secondaccounte1209 The difference is Ron and Fab didn't sing a note on those albums.

    • @spongebobsquarepants3770
      @spongebobsquarepants3770 3 роки тому +1

      well said & well written

  • @pettycrimes6328
    @pettycrimes6328 7 років тому +7

    Ok. I put on the closed captions because I couldn't understand their heavy accents and apparently whoever did the closed captions couldn't understand them either.

    • @pablogonzalez-ot9iw
      @pablogonzalez-ot9iw 7 років тому +2

      petty crimes you are beautiful

    • @orubek355
      @orubek355 5 років тому +4

      I unsterdand what they say in this video.

    • @labalaba5963
      @labalaba5963 4 роки тому

      i understand what they told

  • @maximelagace3173
    @maximelagace3173 3 роки тому +4

    Im sad for these guys, the voice in their songs is not them but look how many modern artist who use so much autotune and voice trafficing that on the finish line it’s the same result

  • @fabuloushearthrob
    @fabuloushearthrob 6 років тому +9

    Grammy is a cult...Grammy were having a party by Clive Davis while Whitney body remain unsettled on the 4th floor in 2012..glad they were not involved...

  • @miguelmusicajw
    @miguelmusicajw 7 років тому +5

    where's the full interview at 1:07 ?

  • @DolceFarnienteABC123
    @DolceFarnienteABC123 8 днів тому

    I actually feel bad for these guys. They seem so nice and honest. They got bamboozled into it.

  • @AL-wb8cu
    @AL-wb8cu 7 років тому +19

    Real milli vanilli are old...😂 they cant dance like these two are doing. So the producer use this two.. and not their voice..

    • @LinkRocks
      @LinkRocks 4 роки тому +3

      Yes, but it was still wrong to lie and say it was Rob and Fab singing. That's the problem. They could have packaged R&F in a way to "hide" any vocal shortcomings (i.e. studio tricks) and everything would have been fine. They still would have been popular because a lot of people liked MV for their dancing and their looks.

  • @pinkystores9451
    @pinkystores9451 11 місяців тому +4

    Frank is guilty of Rob's suicide.

    • @amybess
      @amybess 6 днів тому

      Absolutely

  • @princessvaeh7018
    @princessvaeh7018 8 років тому +14

    it was the biggest scandal of there time but what people don't no is that fab could get a record deal if he wanted

    • @AXELIndustries
      @AXELIndustries 7 років тому +3

      What? :D

    • @justinlee2956
      @justinlee2956 6 років тому +5

      I think he's better off without a label, no label no bullshyt

    • @steveeleigh3731
      @steveeleigh3731 6 років тому +7

      and Rob could have been a successful model

    • @kd2838
      @kd2838 4 роки тому +3

      I'm subscribed to Fab's UA-cam channel, he is just such a beautiful inspirational person and his voice is beautiful as well.

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 3 роки тому

      @@steveeleigh3731 Rob has said that he and Fab were too small to really be successful models, that they had to stand on phone books for photo shoots and compete with American models that were over six feet tall.

  • @edgarparada3946
    @edgarparada3946 2 роки тому +1

    O sotaque dele é mais carregado que do Schwarzenegger.

  • @xavierwmz6998
    @xavierwmz6998 4 роки тому +1

    This band maked me dream when I was 15 - whoever sings. What's next ? ;)

  • @Ch3rishtheday
    @Ch3rishtheday 3 роки тому +3

    Frank should be in jail!

  • @actorbrian
    @actorbrian 10 років тому +8

    Ashley Simpson's heroes- ROB AND FAB

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 3 роки тому +1

      That wasn’t the same thing as Rob & Fab. Ashlee Simpson used her own vocals on all her records, Rob & Fab didn’t. They were what people had associated Milli Vanilli’s singing with and they were made to lip-sync to entirely other people’s vocals in concerts, practically defrauding people.

  • @themichael3105
    @themichael3105 4 роки тому +4

    Everyone lip syncs. I lip sync when I tell my girlfriend that I love her. Boom.

  • @QQuaeE
    @QQuaeE 5 років тому +3

    because of the Grammy Farian was forced to say the truth maybe ? the pressure was too much

  • @CityOfParis93
    @CityOfParis93 5 років тому +5

    seb t'es al?

  • @hi_lente
    @hi_lente 7 років тому +2

    COmo quiera que huevotes para reconocerlo! Pero esí, eran showmans

  • @farymercadocortez7269
    @farymercadocortez7269 7 років тому +1

    El mas bello fue Rob Pilatus! Que lamentable la decision que tomo, sobre su vida!!!

  • @ShyGuy83
    @ShyGuy83 5 років тому +3

    I remember in school talent shows, particularly the ones I've been to, singing contestants could not even use instrumental backing tracks to perform songs. It HAD to be done in acapella. That's how asinine this whole chapter of music really was.

    • @ZeeZee9
      @ZeeZee9 3 роки тому

      There's nothing wrong with that.

    • @ShyGuy83
      @ShyGuy83 3 роки тому

      @@ZeeZee9 Of course there’s nothing wrong with it, but sometimes some performers at the schools I went to couldn’t keep in tempo or in sync, or harmonize with each other very well.

  • @TheSeventhSeal
    @TheSeventhSeal 3 роки тому +5

    At the time I thought it was funny, but now I just feel sorry for them. I guess they got swept up in this and Farian couldn't pull the wool over the eyes of the more inquisitive media like he'd be able to do with Boney M.

  • @alexandresavon371
    @alexandresavon371 3 роки тому

    So sad man

  • @spongebobsquarepants3770
    @spongebobsquarepants3770 3 роки тому +1

    they should have never accepted those Grammys in the 1st place! 😕

    • @Treaxvour
      @Treaxvour 3 роки тому +4

      What explaination could they give for going to the grammys and stiffing an award being given to them?

    • @spongebobsquarepants3770
      @spongebobsquarepants3770 3 роки тому +2

      @@Treaxvour that’s a damn good question

  • @mosesruperto7128
    @mosesruperto7128 3 роки тому +1

    And look at the music industry today. They are celebrated for being phonies.

  • @shanitrahan9904
    @shanitrahan9904 6 років тому +5

    That's not true rob Frank farian ended milli vanilli not rob and fab he's the one that wanted you guys to lipsync on the record he was using you like you guys are the masterminds he created all of this so you see this isn't your fault frank farian is the blame rob you didn't caused any of this you and fab were brought into this mess I want you to understand what i tried to tell you.

    • @steveeleigh3731
      @steveeleigh3731 6 років тому

      Shani, sweetie, Rob is not deceased. So I don't think he is reading your comment.

    • @kidvicious2180
      @kidvicious2180 6 років тому +1

      Rik Bohrn out of it? They were working in 98 on a new milli vanilli album worktitle back and in attack

  • @miIitaryminded
    @miIitaryminded Рік тому

    Germany ya?
    Da UZI nain Millie Vanilli meter.

  • @alienpoisonxanadu_antibeauty
    @alienpoisonxanadu_antibeauty 9 місяців тому

    Presionados para cantar para losque dudaban XD jajajajajaja

  • @CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue
    @CelesteKTheNewWaveRevue 3 роки тому

    That was awful! This reflected badly on other groups who actually sing and have talent.

  • @CedrickEMoore
    @CedrickEMoore 8 років тому +1

    Ha Ha Ha

  • @jameslamerton7550
    @jameslamerton7550 8 років тому +1

    Compulsive Liars Anonymous sent me here.

  • @arpama6804
    @arpama6804 4 роки тому

    Cheh

  • @markdp1983
    @markdp1983 5 років тому +2

    They can barely speak any English didnt people at the time suspect it wasn't them?!

  • @PauloHowlett
    @PauloHowlett 3 роки тому +2

    Embarassing

  • @PhuckHue2
    @PhuckHue2 6 років тому +2

    lmao I never liked those fools. I'm a musician and when I saw their videos I knew some shady shit was going on. their look didn't match the vocals. I could tell singers a lot older were singing the parts

    • @fabuloushearthrob
      @fabuloushearthrob 5 років тому +3

      I'm not even a musician I can tell the voices coming out from their mouths are not their real voices... Especially when it comes Rob's singing part I always imagine an old dude with stick singing ..In Baby Don't Forget My Number one part he imitate an old man dancing lol...but I love them because they stopped it..have integrity to give Grammy to real singers... they told everybody 6 months before the Grammy because they don't want to get the Grammy, Clive Davis signed them for US record pretended didn't know anything just walk away just like that should be blamed...they were just two European kids live in poverty ya know..

    • @nawalbodin742
      @nawalbodin742 5 років тому +9

      They were only victims of the musical industry they started from the bottoms and they got too high up the real guilty is their producer Franck farian he created this and destroyed them

    • @angelgutierrez9858
      @angelgutierrez9858 5 років тому +2

      They were bad ass! These 2 guys worked their asses off, had they led them sing , well they would had!

    • @RocStarr913
      @RocStarr913 3 роки тому +5

      Their producer basically tricked them into it. They had them sign a record contract without lawyers or managers or really reading it themselves, with Rob & Fab not knowing what they would even be really used for until it was basically too late to get out of it. Rob & Fab had no music business experience whatsoever and the producer completely exploited and took advantage of them. He set them up to be the fall guys while he still had success with other dance acts of his into the 1990’s.