theirs also the whole issue with Echo chambers on social media, people trapped in personalized bubbles of information who are susceptible to being tricked into believing things that are untrue, purely because it appeals to their beliefs
Back in the good old days idiots stayed amongst their own small groups. Now the idiots all around the world are banding together to sway public opinion to believe their bs. Swarm stupidity is gaining traction.
I get recommended videos that are usually videos I have already seen, or things that hardly interest me. I like new things, but the recommendations just make me feel like they want me going around in circles. It's fucking annoying. I remember the days when the algorithms would recommend fresh content, not just personalized shit. These new algorithms will stunt mental development in newer generations.
Mobeus Kagamine i have family members that routinely block other family and friends with different political beliefs leading to further see only more of what they believe
I just realized that I trust Hank and John with my donations more than any other organization. I always look to see how many cents on the dollar go to the actual cause, but with you guys I just assume is 110%
The key to using sorting algorithms on social media sites is to let users: 1. Know what factors it considers 2. Know when it is active 3. Have a way to disable it
Man, of all the stuff talked about in this, it's the bits about the algorithm affecting or guiding moods and flow of information that ended up being the most important.
Good content. I am surprised that AOL was not mentioned. It had a huge impact on people connecting to the internet for the first time; myself included.
Scishow, you should talk about Linux and BSD in relation to computer security. Many people dont know about them, and they have become more user accessable than ever before
Sal Mirren I'm 20 and a sophomore business student. I wasn't trying to say my professor was bad or the class was bad just that this is a lot easier to understand than the class I took so I feel like I learned a lot more.
GeoCitities was a social networking site. Social networking today in the larger sites is primarily focused on showing personal info and advertiser friendly content like compulsory games and "location check in" features whereas a social networking like GeoCities is now rare where the focus is about anyone being able to create web content about anything not just about themselves or in a constricting "profile" easy for data mining. The two big primary turns for social media after GeoCities was blogging which you can clearly see in Twitter and Facebooks makeup and less obvious is the profiling and data mining model actually comes from dating websites. So today we have social media hyper focused on vanity blogging and having an appealing dating profile that anyone can stalk instead of social media being focused on connecting people with common interests and giving them creative tools for expression that defined GeoCities albeit on an earlier web.
"giving" them creative tools... That was the problem. Giving away the fruits of your labor is fine if it's a hobby and you live with your parents, but if your employees need to put food on their table, you need to monetize, or sell those creative tools. Unfortunately, GeoCities couldn't make that transition, whereas Hucksterburg did.
algorithmic filtering is the one of biggest reasons i moved from facebook to twitter (aside from making 150+ tweets a day is more acceptable than making 50+ statuses a day). like it's so boring not seeing a chronological log of everything. unfortunately twitter is starting to do a similar thing with recommended tweets, though you still see all the other tweets.
This video reproduces a common misconception about the Facebook emotional contagion experiment. The Facebook experiment did not show that adjusting people's news feeds STRONGLY affected anything. In fact, the Cohen's D effect sizes were NEGLIGIBLY SMALL (between .001 and .02). The only reason it was statistically significant was because it was such a massive sample size. On top of that, what was being measured were numbers of emotionally valenced words posted by the subjects--hardly a measure of mood. This study was ridiculously overblown.
yeey, relevance selection for specific person :) made such stuff for my diploma project(it was pretty simple ofc), all this series brings up the nostalgic memories from the past days! greetings for all Computer Science guys and girls out there! :)
The general public wasn't ready for the internet. Too many sites are infested with conspiracy nutters, religious lunatics, new age bullshitters, trolls and haters...
As I recall, wasn't the top speed limit on dial up 53,000? Even though it was marketed as 56K, as I recall 56k could interfere with voice so it was limited by the phone companies to 53k
Fun fact: US Congress approved ISPs to collect internet usage data of users and share without their permission. Basically, *your ISP is selling your data*
I had DSL in 98 that had 1-7Mb/s down speeds and that came through a twisted pair phone line. It was better than cable was for years. By the time it wasn't I had a FTTH connection which is vastly superior to cable. I feel like I live in the dark ages only having cable internet access where I live now. 25Mbps up is not even close to enough today.
I kinda feel like the end of this video could be an ending of one the the "Mind blow" video on Vsauce2. Those black and white short clips extracted from programs broadcasted in the 60's showing how people felt about techology and their view of the future. If you're from the future and reading this comment, please know that a genius back then predicted your arrival!
You probably should have mentioned who owns the bulk of those data centers. Certainly google and facebook are very big players there, but Amazon is the giant in that market. You put them on equal footing, but in fact Amazon sells those services to a lot of other giant companies. I'm pretty sure it is their biggest profit center. Dropbox, just to name 1, is housed on Amazon S3 servers. Even if you don't buy anything at Amazon, if you use the internet, you are using their services constantly and they know a LOT about you.
Ten minutes for a song on Napster on Dial-up? Man, mine took more like two or three hours. I left it running overnight while I slept for a couple of songs.
Rarely are UA-cam's recommendations what I want to watch. I usually either search for videos or channels I want to see or the UA-cam creators themselves recommend me something I'm interested in. Pretty much the only situation where related videos have been useful is with music and even then it take listening to many of them before i find something I like.
Does speed of light have frame of reference. Example a kid running around his house with flashlight, does the light from the flash light go faster than the speed of light? or does the light slow down in order to stay with the speed of light?
I wish UA-cam's algorithms understood that I pretty much NEVER want them to recommend a (non-music) video that I've already seen. Like seriously, I've already seen part 2 of this series, and now part 3, UA-cam should NEVER recommend them again, and they should have figured out by now that I always ignore videos I've watched or click away from them right away if I don't realized I've seen them.
Hi SciShow, I got 3 questions. :) What will happen if a big solar flare shots down the electricity that we desperately needs to menage all nuclear reactors all over the globe? Who, and how hard it can be for someone to get inside our beloved smartphones. For what purpose, do we have to trust every app? What will happen if a gamma ray burst hit our sun?
lol, When has a video with only 4 views ever been recommended to anyone? I've NEVER had that happen, even back when UA-cam actually cared about smaller creators.
catiedoesit happens to me every day! I guess my interest in CERTAIN ASPECTS OF PHONOGRAPH HISTORY AND CERTAIN TYPES OF EARLY RECORDING TECHNOLOGY? Look it up. Try looking up the 550 or so specific records made by the Thos. A. Edison Inc. were made using microphones . Yes, it’s a thing, at the end of the rabbit hole of history of recorded sound. It’s still in almost Daily use. But always weirdo’s like me who have and use specific windup record players. I have 6 different types of early record players, yes, another rabbit hole! Haha!!!
@@davidlogansr8007 Yep. If you have researched a relatively obscure "thing" enough, You WILL have recommendations for videos with few views but are ablout that "thing". Happens to me all of the time. (I'm also into vintage, obscure tech..) 👍😊👍
After watching this whole miniseries, this might seem like a dumb question, but now I'm wondering if it's possible for someone to gain control or even shut down the internet? What is the internet, anyway? Just a bunch of computers communicating with one another? In that case, the only way to control or shut down the internet would be to somehow control/shut down every single computer in the world, which is obviously not possible. At the same time, so many of us rely on internet providers, I suppose if someone were to somehow shut down every internet provider (Optimum, Fios, etc.) then they would effectively be shutting down the internet.
I really dislike this careless sharing of information online :s I still feel like whoever came up with the idea of aggressively pushing account-linking/sharing across all platforms had ulterior motives, and everyone's falling for it way too easily :/ I really don't like running with the herd if the herd is running off a cliff towards a carrot on a stick.
Actually, Google does not use 3rd party data centers. I don't even think they use 3rd party storage (EMC or NetApp, etc...). I know taht facebook uses 3rd party storage, but I am not sure whether they house them in 3rd party data centers, or not. Apple uses all 1st party data centers and uses 3rd party storage. I am also pretty sure Amazon is all 1st party data centers.
it is crazy to think how young the internet is, image the amount of information there will be in centuries, shots gonna be fucking crazy, assuming we make it of course
I'm ignorant I really don't know how much it costs to run a popular youtube channel like this but why is it that channels like this are getting $21,000.00 a month but say they're struggling to survive? how large is the staff?
You know you're officially old when all the 90s shit he described feels like it happened just last week.
RIP my geocities webpage...certainly doesnt seem that long ago...
yep.
Anyone know where I can get a new joystick for my Commodore 64?
Except for Dragon Ball. That'll never get old.
You commented this 4 years ago, and I feel you way too well.
I met my husband on Geocities in 1996...
did you have divorce?
Did you gave him you're home address?
@@nasrollahambor6746 nope, been married 20 years now...
@@Briandacunos eventually.... I mean, we're married with two kids now so yeah
How old are you
I met my ex on mirc
It was a miracle. Good looking normal people could be met online
theirs also the whole issue with Echo chambers on social media, people trapped in personalized bubbles of information who are susceptible to being tricked into believing things that are untrue, purely because it appeals to their beliefs
Back in the good old days, that was called friends.
Back in the good old days idiots stayed amongst their own small groups. Now the idiots all around the world are banding together to sway public opinion to believe their bs. Swarm stupidity is gaining traction.
And its officially sanctioned too. The "Google Bubble" is a significant economic force.
I get recommended videos that are usually videos I have already seen, or things that hardly interest me. I like new things, but the recommendations just make me feel like they want me going around in circles. It's fucking annoying. I remember the days when the algorithms would recommend fresh content, not just personalized shit. These new algorithms will stunt mental development in newer generations.
Mobeus Kagamine i have family members that routinely block other family and friends with different political beliefs leading to further see only more of what they believe
I just realized that I trust Hank and John with my donations more than any other organization. I always look to see how many cents on the dollar go to the actual cause, but with you guys I just assume is 110%
The key to using sorting algorithms on social media sites is to let users:
1. Know what factors it considers
2. Know when it is active
3. Have a way to disable it
Man, of all the stuff talked about in this, it's the bits about the algorithm affecting or guiding moods and flow of information that ended up being the most important.
I feel confident in predicting that cat videos will never die.
agreed
3 years later and your prediction was correct lol
@@basilsoares7824 Four years later,...still correct.
Seven years later… still correct
Why not make a SciShow Tech?
That.
wouldnt mind that
Yes!
Hello whats up mad scientist?
:^))
Good content. I am surprised that AOL was not mentioned. It had a huge impact on people connecting to the internet for the first time; myself included.
They did mention them. Just not significantly.
Please make these more often. This is my favorite SciShow show
Scishow, you should talk about Linux and BSD in relation to computer security. Many people dont know about them, and they have become more user accessable than ever before
nobody uses linux anyways *sarcasm*
*or not*
Well... maybs no body uses it, but every thing does.
Thank You Michael and crew. You folks are changing the world.
This is bringing up so many memories.
I have learned more watching this series than I did in an entire semester of college level digital technologies class
Sal Mirren I'm 20 and a sophomore business student. I wasn't trying to say my professor was bad or the class was bad just that this is a lot easier to understand than the class I took so I feel like I learned a lot more.
In IT a degree doesnt mean much. You want to get your ccna certificate. Certificates mean more than a 1 time degree
GeoCitities was a social networking site. Social networking today in the larger sites is primarily focused on showing personal info and advertiser friendly content like compulsory games and "location check in" features whereas a social networking like GeoCities is now rare where the focus is about anyone being able to create web content about anything not just about themselves or in a constricting "profile" easy for data mining. The two big primary turns for social media after GeoCities was blogging which you can clearly see in Twitter and Facebooks makeup and less obvious is the profiling and data mining model actually comes from dating websites. So today we have social media hyper focused on vanity blogging and having an appealing dating profile that anyone can stalk instead of social media being focused on connecting people with common interests and giving them creative tools for expression that defined GeoCities albeit on an earlier web.
"giving" them creative tools...
That was the problem. Giving away the fruits of your labor is fine if it's a hobby and you live with your parents, but if your employees need to put food on their table, you need to monetize, or sell those creative tools. Unfortunately, GeoCities couldn't make that transition, whereas Hucksterburg did.
This series was excellent, thanks!
Excellent piece Michael. Keep it up!
algorithmic filtering is the one of biggest reasons i moved from facebook to twitter (aside from making 150+ tweets a day is more acceptable than making 50+ statuses a day). like it's so boring not seeing a chronological log of everything. unfortunately twitter is starting to do a similar thing with recommended tweets, though you still see all the other tweets.
This guy is better presenter than other guys who were 1st and 2nd parts.
Thank u guys. I really enjoyed the series
A series about the history of operating systems and the capabilities they had at those times would be um... scitastic, scirific, scishow? Lol
This video reproduces a common misconception about the Facebook emotional contagion experiment. The Facebook experiment did not show that adjusting people's news feeds STRONGLY affected anything. In fact, the Cohen's D effect sizes were NEGLIGIBLY SMALL (between .001 and .02). The only reason it was statistically significant was because it was such a massive sample size.
On top of that, what was being measured were numbers of emotionally valenced words posted by the subjects--hardly a measure of mood.
This study was ridiculously overblown.
yeey, relevance selection for specific person :) made such stuff for my diploma project(it was pretty simple ofc), all this series brings up the nostalgic memories from the past days! greetings for all Computer Science guys and girls out there! :)
Great video! Loving the channel the last few weeks keep it up!
I remember teaching myself html and building my first website on geocities during Study Hall back in the early 2000s.
Great Video series! Keep them coming with different topics!
Oh my I had no idea Disqus was an alternative spelling of “discuss” I always pronounced it “discus”
you think 56K is slow? my 1st modem was a 300baud coupler.
even at 2400baud you could keep up with reading the incoming data.
Loved this miniseries.
when you stop and think about it. the internet is pretty amazing. we get more information in 1 day than some one from the 13th century in a live time.
internet has been best thing that ever happened to humankind
Yes, free porn is great!!!
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
wrong
tentacle hentai was the best
I'm still going to go with "mathematics" for that award.
The general public wasn't ready for the internet. Too many sites are infested with conspiracy nutters, religious lunatics, new age bullshitters, trolls and haters...
beer
As I recall, wasn't the top speed limit on dial up 53,000? Even though it was marketed as 56K, as I recall 56k could interfere with voice so it was limited by the phone companies to 53k
Thanks for sharing
If companies are selling my internet history...I'm screwed
and a trauma for whoever reads it
They'd watch every science video on UA-cam lol
Fun fact: US Congress approved ISPs to collect internet usage data of users and share without their permission.
Basically, *your ISP is selling your data*
who the hell are you and why are you everywhere.
Who, me?
Incredible work. Very difficult to find all this info.
I like your shirt! hahaha ; that was a very interesting serie! thank you so much
In my dial-up days, anything approaching 56k was a friggin miracle! 😳
Can you do more mini series? I love these!
I see a future where everyone has google fiber and laughs at the incredibly low speeds of today's broadband connections the way we do for dial-up now.
MaSolice you do not live like me, I rarely get above a megabit per second
well that not much of an imagination, this will happen for sure, only a matter of when
MaSolice I have a 1Gbps fiber internet connection here, in Singapore.
wow how much it costs?
you mean 5G?
I had DSL in 98 that had 1-7Mb/s down speeds and that came through a twisted pair phone line. It was better than cable was for years. By the time it wasn't I had a FTTH connection which is vastly superior to cable. I feel like I live in the dark ages only having cable internet access where I live now. 25Mbps up is not even close to enough today.
That's why VPN is so important when Government track you or hold the metadata.
It really depends on the VPN service you use and many more things...in the end government holds true power
great mini series!
I kinda feel like the end of this video could be an ending of one the the "Mind blow" video on Vsauce2.
Those black and white short clips extracted from programs broadcasted in the 60's showing how people felt about techology and their view of the future.
If you're from the future and reading this comment, please know that a genius back then predicted your arrival!
Ah, I remember GeoCities... I was in the very first block of the Silicon Valley neighborhood :)
Amazing! Part 3
recommended videos have never been something i was interested in watching...
Check out Storj. It is a new approach to storing huge amounts of data safely and securing. Files big and small.
I think my Geocities page was in Area 51, but I got so into anime so fast, all the pages I visited were Tokyo/Shrine.
nice history sharing
I'm going to cry due to nostalgia from Geocities and Msn Groups :'(
You guys should explain why lightning bolts go off in different directions off of the main bolt......... for reference watch lightning in slow motion
You should put links to part 1 and part 2 in the description.
I remember my father showing me his GeoCities site where he was hosting some hacks he was hosting there.
Anyone else get distressingly nostalgic when they started talking about geocities? Ah, the early days of fandom....
I like this guy.
I kind of miss the old intranet. There were fan pages for movies, TV, anime, etc. Whatever happened to those?
How much processing power and memory is going unused on the total number of computers out there now? This seems like a question for Vsauce.
You probably should have mentioned who owns the bulk of those data centers. Certainly google and facebook are very big players there, but Amazon is the giant in that market. You put them on equal footing, but in fact Amazon sells those services to a lot of other giant companies. I'm pretty sure it is their biggest profit center. Dropbox, just to name 1, is housed on Amazon S3 servers. Even if you don't buy anything at Amazon, if you use the internet, you are using their services constantly and they know a LOT about you.
My brother in Law told me that Friendster was awesome back then.
Net Neutrality?
one of Google's main data centers is in Seattle, Washington, in a hotel. I think it's a La Quinta.
Ten minutes for a song on Napster on Dial-up? Man, mine took more like two or three hours. I left it running overnight while I slept for a couple of songs.
LOVED THIS SERIES!
1:48 GRAB ASSES BAD! BEER GOOD!
Rarely are UA-cam's recommendations what I want to watch. I usually either search for videos or channels I want to see or the UA-cam creators themselves recommend me something I'm interested in. Pretty much the only situation where related videos have been useful is with music and even then it take listening to many of them before i find something I like.
Does speed of light have frame of reference. Example a kid running around his house with flashlight, does the light from the flash light go faster than the speed of light? or does the light slow down in order to stay with the speed of light?
Light can never go faster than itself.
I wish UA-cam's algorithms understood that I pretty much NEVER want them to recommend a (non-music) video that I've already seen. Like seriously, I've already seen part 2 of this series, and now part 3, UA-cam should NEVER recommend them again, and they should have figured out by now that I always ignore videos I've watched or click away from them right away if I don't realized I've seen them.
Perhaps satellite's can be storing the data for the world wide web computer's on the world, just an idea
I love scishow! :D
data privacy and data security sovereignty is another challenge
Great series. Please make one-time donations an option for supporters that don’t want to opt-in to monthly donations (outside of patreon?)
R.I.P. GeoCities and the website I made for a school project on Ernest Hemingway xD
my mom had a friendster account back in 1999!
how about IpV6 and when tis gonna start to go up , i heard it have about 500 000 ips for a small area.
Hi SciShow, I got 3 questions. :)
What will happen if a big solar flare shots down the electricity that we desperately needs to menage all nuclear reactors all over the globe?
Who, and how hard it can be for someone to get inside our beloved smartphones. For what purpose, do we have to trust every app?
What will happen if a gamma ray burst hit our sun?
I love this series! Very informative. But i wonder why they left out the darknet, bitcoin, and sensorship especially in china and north korea.
Time to make a video about Web3 and blockchain!!
Oh my god you brought up Disqus!!!!!
lol, When has a video with only 4 views ever been recommended to anyone? I've NEVER had that happen, even back when UA-cam actually cared about smaller creators.
Only if you pay google to recomment your video
catiedoesit when did UA-cam cared about small creators? Don't believe everything u hear n get out of ur bubble
catiedoesit happens to me every day! I guess my interest in CERTAIN ASPECTS OF PHONOGRAPH HISTORY AND CERTAIN TYPES OF EARLY RECORDING TECHNOLOGY? Look it up. Try looking up the 550 or so specific records made by the Thos. A. Edison Inc. were made using microphones . Yes, it’s a thing, at the end of the rabbit hole of history of recorded sound. It’s still in almost Daily use. But always weirdo’s like me who have and use specific windup record players. I have 6 different types of early record players, yes, another rabbit hole! Haha!!!
@@davidlogansr8007 Yep. If you have researched a relatively obscure "thing" enough, You WILL have recommendations for videos with few views but are ablout that "thing". Happens to me all of the time. (I'm also into vintage, obscure tech..) 👍😊👍
After watching this whole miniseries, this might seem like a dumb question, but now I'm wondering if it's possible for someone to gain control or even shut down the internet? What is the internet, anyway? Just a bunch of computers communicating with one another? In that case, the only way to control or shut down the internet would be to somehow control/shut down every single computer in the world, which is obviously not possible. At the same time, so many of us rely on internet providers, I suppose if someone were to somehow shut down every internet provider (Optimum, Fios, etc.) then they would effectively be shutting down the internet.
Every year a season of attack on titan is stopped from being made, so remember don't drink and drive
Where are the first two videos?
Here's an idea! a website with nothing but links to other websites that may interest you. it can be called "psychic notebook"
Anyone has a summary of it?
Hmm makes me wonder whats next after technology? Or better yet what is left to create and for what?
I really dislike this careless sharing of information online :s
I still feel like whoever came up with the idea of aggressively pushing account-linking/sharing across all platforms had ulterior motives, and everyone's falling for it way too easily :/
I really don't like running with the herd if the herd is running off a cliff towards a carrot on a stick.
Does cardio kill gains?
Do the bars of the barcode have to be colored in black?
I'm surprised they only mentioned AOL and not really say anything about it.
I can’t find part 2
I like the video.
Part 4 soon? 😜
Because of how phone lines are made. What about dsl through phone line
Actually, Google does not use 3rd party data centers. I don't even think they use 3rd party storage (EMC or NetApp, etc...). I know taht facebook uses 3rd party storage, but I am not sure whether they house them in 3rd party data centers, or not. Apple uses all 1st party data centers and uses 3rd party storage. I am also pretty sure Amazon is all 1st party data centers.
What do you mean at 0:20 that Google, Facebook and Amazon get "600 million websites a YEAR"? They probably get that much every hour!!
it is crazy to think how young the internet is, image the amount of information there will be in centuries, shots gonna be fucking crazy, assuming we make it of course
Yeah, I never get sucked in looking at the...
WOW, 5 COOLEST INVENTIONS THAT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND.
cya
At long last! ❤
Getting going
I'm ignorant I really don't know how much it costs to run a popular youtube channel like this but why is it that channels like this are getting $21,000.00 a month but say they're struggling to survive? how large is the staff?
His hair gel is made from unicorn tears and can deflect small arms fire.
See now that's a legitimate reason, now I feel better about giving them money.
Everybody who doesn't make a fortune that is multiple times what an average worker does says he's struggling.