Rolling It Back
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2021
- The plaintiff says he bought a 2008 BMW from the defendant with 98,000 miles on it, but when the DMV ran the VIN number, it came up with 236,000 miles. He claims he was ripped off and wants his money back. The defendant says he sold the car as TMU - true mileage unknown. He’s countersuing for the balance due.
case 29-392 - Розваги
Plaintiff: “You know what, I should’ve handled this MY way!”
Me: 😳
@Samuel M oh that’s what I heard lol 😂
@Samuel M oh crap 🤦🏽♀️
WHEN I HEARD THAT I WAS LIKE....OH SHIT IT"S BOUT TO GO DOWN. LOL
@@debrachatman6536 that's exactly how i felt when he said that, that defendant better watch his back
He handled it HIS WAY and the idiot and his so who DOESN'T read what he is signing are in this predicament. He says he made 9 payments and the dealer said he made 11 and he doesn't keep HIS OWN records !!! What a BOZO !!
Plaintiff is going to stroke out if he doesn't do something about his temper and anger.
That’s what I was thinking. Dude was about to have a heart attack. Smh…
I’m Italian we have high blood pressure for things like this lol
How about the 12:00 mark when he was doing the violin hand gestures 🤣🤣
@@Mocharocks9966 And all the rolling of his eyes and pursing his lips. That guy is a walking freak show.
If you don't take care of the body and mind they won't take care of you.
The fact that a BMW made it 200k+ miles is the most shocking part for me.
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Mine (e350) is well over 350K and still running great.
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You’re one of the lucky ones. 👍
They altered the mileage cause BMW doesn’t make it that far
The dealer is slick. He knows full well that he's selling cars with the miles rolled back. Buyer beware.
He knew what he done l would be piss that was a lot of difference on the clock 90 odd and 200 odd what did he say to the son for the son to sign it. That judge is useless
He definitely did roll back the miles him self or knew what the original miles were because he ran a car fax before he bought the vehicle. No used car dealer would purchase a car beforehand without that b/c they need to know what they are getting and what are potential profits. He uses this tmu as a loophole probably many times. I wish the judge would have pressed him harder on that but she could only go by the law.
@@patdaniell5528 how's she useless? Proof is proof. Dang on son signed it. 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
@@TheAray6 He may have intentionally not ran a car fax so he could sell it that way. No matter if he won or not I would never buy a car from him ever. He should have settled out of court because I’m guessing he has lost a lot of business because of this!🤨
dealer is full of shit
Plaintiff's son is about to catch a beat down for signing that document lol
I never let my sons ( or even my husband, for that matter)sign anything for me except maybe a takeout receipt, and even then I check it before they hand it back to the delivery person.
@L Cam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Son just wanted a fly car and got flew right over 🤣🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Lol right 😂
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The plaintiff's silent facial expressions are hilarious. He is not used to holding back lmao
😂😂😂😂😂he is struggling silently
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I love at the 12 min mark he was doing the small violin hand gesture lol.. imagine him doing that on judge Judy 😂😂
@@tattooguy973 Judy would have said CASE DISMISSED 🤣🤣🤣
I know I thought he was going to rip the podium out of the ground lmao
This is the kind of stuff that turns into murder or attempted murder. I can so see the plaintiff going after that car salesman
Well the thing is...the plaintiff is a huge baby and probably hasn't even been in a fight in his life....all mouth. That car salesman would most likely kick his sorry ass.
Car sales man specially used one they're cheaters and liars
It's possible, but very unlikely. It's a trifling sum and the plaintiff reeks of false bravado. I imagine the tough guy act vanishes the moment there's a real/genuine threat of violence.
Especially when he said he “shoulda handled it his way”
@@kerstieamiya4880 Exactly. That terrified me to hear.
I'm surprised the plaintiff has made it this far in life with that uncontrollable rage.
It's 2023 people don't get checked at the gate anymore...if it was 1970 he'd be in line
@@bretmoleta1860If it was 1970 his personality was baseline.
@@bretmoleta1860he was around in 1970... nothing checked him back then, either lol
I’d love to see how you’d react if $8000 of your money was taken under fraudulent circumstances
My boy was U P S E T . People never realize though pissing off the judge and being rude is an automatic loss.
Maybe with Judge Judy but I have seen a defendant give a judge shit and the judge just took the high road. But yes the plaintiff here, really had to check himself.
That makes the judge not only stupid but unprofessional and lacking in morals and a strict code of ethics. She’s not holding up her sworn duty as a judge to rule impartially and not based off personal feelings, attitudes, or bias. She’s suppose to act in a disinterested manner, that’s neutral and favors neither party. She shouldn’t rule against him just bc she doesn’t like him or he’s disrespectful, mouthy, angry, or rude to her. She’s not only being immature and petty in this case but also violating her sworn oath as a judge
@@phill8395 you know people abuse their power all the time right . It’s crazy but not shocking
All judges do that, they even deny you bail if you get an attitude.
@@phill8395 if you get attitude with the judge and their court, you can be held in contempt. if you disrespect the judge, you're disrespecting the law. and if you disrespect the law, how do you expect the law to protect you? that's the whole point of being in a court room. yes, judges look at the facts and come up with judgements but you have to respect them as people too, no matter how awful the situation is.
the point is to look at the facts and make fair judgements. it's difficult to be fair if you have one of the litigants acting blatantly angry and disrespectful towards the person making that judgement.
"DO YOU HAVE AN OFF BUTTON PRESS IT!'' Judge Milian GO HARD! 💯
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And when Judge Milian put her feet on the bench that was beautiful
@@peterkrahn2224 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
Loved that comment !!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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I can say this as someone that worked in the car business for over 20 years, that cluster swap is an IMMEDIATE red flag, like sirens wailing right in your face. What the cluster is is the 'dash' as we see it, not the whole dashboard but your gauges - speedometer, tachometer, odometer, temp guage, fuel guage, , where your warning lights come on, all those things you see when you look at the area where your speed is showing. When you put a different cluster in, it has the mileage reading of the car it's from, NOT the car it's going into, it does not reset to the mileage on the car it's going into. As a car dealer when that defendant saw a cluster change it should have made his spidey senses ping off the charts and find out what the true mileage was. A 'real' dealer would run from a cluster swapped car unless there was a very well documented trail showing what the real mileage is - there is in fact a spot with your owners manuals where a shop can document this and stamp off on it and/or put a sticker under the hood with the mileage information. The fact the defendant didn't and then snuck in a TMU on the title and not the bill of sale suggests he's as slick as they come. Plaintiff is no angel either, forgetting everything to prove his case, trying to talk over the judge and the eye rolls and violin playing. Am sure outside of the courtroom he's a real joy to be around /sarcasm
Thank you for this information!!
JM was on FIRE!!
Thank you for the great info and the fair assessment here. Everyone seems to be focusing on the angry plaintiff, but if it were their money they’d be angry too. Sounds like the defendant is the kind of used car salesman that gives all of them a bad name.
that's not true, if it digital the ECM keeps the mileage, i been working at a dealership for 36 years
@@isthisbetterwell9958Ds Yes, you are partly right! Maybe even totally right if your brand gets the mileage off the ECM and displays it on the dash. From my experience yes, the ECM does store the correct mileage but it doesn't copy over to the dash display if the cluster was changed. It WILL show the correct mileage on a scan tool if you hook up a scan tool and read it. So if the cluster was swapped, the cluster will display one mileage and the ECM will show a different mileage.
He owes 14k on a car with 200k+ mileage? I'd be pissed too.
My guy got scammed HARD
No one put a gun to his head
$1457.00
When you agree to that price you have to pay it. Anger is not an excuse to avoid debt.
The plaintiff looks like he’s known in the neighborhood as Vinnie who carries a shank. Like , “ You talking to me ?” type of guy
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FACTS
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That guy is a ticking time bomb. New Yorkers are so stressed out. Relax lol
yup we are lol , But I am learning to find my off button lol
Yeah no. We're not all like that thank God.
@@shayhoff7064 we get a bad rep , but I do
have a temper that I am trying to find my zen spot . lol
You be stressed out too if you had to pay $3,000 for a closet with no kitchen and shared bathroom with rats as big as cats walking up to you!!🤣🤣
Yeah that car salesman better watch his ass
That dealer is exactly why all dealers have a bad reputation. They knew the mileage and decided to act stupid and say they didn't know so they can sell for more.
Exactly he knew enough of what not to ask and what not to find out and where to put what. Probably said hey go drop this off while the dad's working so his dumb kid signs it and we are off the hook. These guys know what to do to say oh no your honor we didn't know.
*"DIAL IT BACK YOUR VOLUME"* Judge Milian yells at the dealership guy who dialed back the odometer 😅😅😅
🤣🤣🤣 fucken gold
Why do these plaintiff’s keep coming to court with no evidence? 🤨🤔
So true
That’s why they leave out paying the defendant. Lol
Bcuz they saw one or two cases where the person had no evidence and won and thought…….I’m going to do that too. But, it hardly ever work out like that.
Rights
The walk with a nasty attitude instead.
Cuz there idiots 🤦♂️
“Stop yelling at me! Dial it back...I know that’s just how you are!” Judge is a savage!
She can relate
Hey! Her too!! She screams and hollers too and she does it at the same time they do it!!! It's just how they both are !
New Yorkers, I tell ya! 😂😂😂😂😂
This got my blood pressure up, NYC has me stressed out just listening to these guys
OMGoodness! LoL! I actually get like that too!!😂😂
Man if anyone here had to spend $8000 on a car that has 230000 miles on it, you'll be just as possed off as the plaintiff.
12:05
He’s petty for that little violin 😂😂
If you listen to the conversation that was taking place at that time between the Judge and the Defendant, the Plaintiff, erroneously, thought he was winning. He didn't realize that he had already lost the case at that point and the Judge's conversation was purely for TV and entertainment purposes.
@@michaeldelyjah5696 yup! Notice how his demeanor quickly changed when he realized the direction the case was really heading. Actually, he looked like he was going to walk out even before she asked him to leave.
Omg I didn’t notice that until this comment 😂 I’m dead
icaught that too n fell out 😂😂
Yeah he was! Lmao!
Wow, I'm surprised the plaintiff didn't have a heart attack.
For a moment I honestly imagined him spontaneously combusting before she even gave her verdict.
I was stuck on the mean-mugging mad- dog look he was displaying.
@@shalleemornes-joanah5297 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That dealer is crooked as hell. Seems to me if u represent a car with X number of miles thru out a transaction that u shouldn't be able to slip in a document at the end that says oh we don't really know if what we presented is accurate... that it shouldn't be allowed. Sounds like fraud.
I've had the displeasure of meeting a few people like the plaintiff. They always think that by being dramatic someone will think they're right.
totally agree .
@@dllms 😮y 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢rewind
I love these longer uploads. I feel I'm getting more bang for my proverbial buck.
Mmmm. I don't know about you, but my bucks are zero.
@@BobBlumenfeld Oh goodness, I can't 🤣!
I agree! And I'm learning way more from these longer eps.
Uh....free?
@@user-bo1rj2xu2s Yeah, that's why they used the word "proverbial."
The plaintiff looks like he's fixing to blow a gasket.
Welcome to the digital age! "And I photopied, *smiles* screenshot"... lol! Love her!
It boggles my mind how the people trying to sue someone has the audacity to argue with the judge, makes no sense
A grown man being expelled from the court room because he couldn't control his composure. This says a lot about the man... I wouldn't sell him a popsicle on the street
JM was mega-pissed with him - he just couldn't control himself. He got owned.
He would probably come back pissed because the popsicle started to melt.
This comment made me chuckle good 😊 and hard …. Lmmfao
@@yumiloomerstorytime.4830 LoL!
We DO have a lot of those unfortunate guys in NYC…who need half a reason to get pissed, walking around with HUGE chips on their shoulders.
“It is always about proof” ❤️
Words to live by. If you CAN PROVE IT!!! You win tbh
When the judge says 'stop talking' i stop talking for two days. It just immobilizes me. True.
Judge: "it's about proof"
Plaintiff: " NOT IN MY WORLD"
🤣 - good luck with that!
I love how judge and the defendant communicated with one another 😂🖤😂 it’s like they had their own language
She set him straight while hearing him. And he acknowledged it. Vice versa. It was satisfying
@@kush1000ful agreed. *said in an English accent* Hazzah! A man of quality🙌🏾
They've done this before. It's his second case for the same thing. He came prepared this time
That’s because this is the second time this defendant has been sued
@@ayyboii8108 do you remember the name of the other case?
To Tasie. Your way off.
Defendant- “I wasn’t the one who sold him the car”
Also defendant- “There are no other employees! It’s only me!”
He’s a liar. Rolled the miles back, told them 98,000. And sneakily marked TMU on the forms.
Yup, I caught that too. He kinda unintentionally blurted that out through his giddiness….bcuz he knew he got over and was going to win.
That defendant is going to get himself messed up...for real...Joe Pesci voice.
Yup, that’s exactly what happens, he hopes the person wouldn’t catch TMU and signs it anyways, very sneaky. He got more money for the car because of the lower mileage and not only was it wrong, it was SUBSTANTIALLY wrong. I did learn from this though, if I purchase a car, run the vin and look at the miles lol
He could be telling the truth.... I mean he did say at the end that this employee is no longer there, and so maybe there was someone else and now he works alone.
You can't roll back miles on a 2008 BMW.. it is computerized and cannot be changed in the computer... a dealership cannot change the mileage logged in the computer. If the computer needs to be replaced, the dealership has to get special authorization from the manufacturer to install current software and the mileage is extracted off old computer and put into new one. The cluster was changed at 136K...besides..
The federal law states that if your car was made before 2010, you're not obliged to disclose the mileage when selling it.
You gotta love how the plaintiff's face matches his attitude.
This was like watching the episode of “The Office” where Michael is pressured into buying insurance and thinks the agent is a mob boss. It was that level of uncomfortable. Now I want a meatball parmigiana.
I believe the plaintiff was misled & misinformed. The problem is he doesn’t keep proper documentation. He doesn’t even have an accurate record of how much he paid. He didn’t do the Carfax before he bought it. He didn’t review the documents after he got the car, even though he had a 30 day warranty. As for the odometer, they changed it, but it’s hard to know whether the people who changed it messed it up or whether the defendant’s dealership did it intentionally. However, it doesn’t matter because the son signed the document saying the “true mileage is unknown”. You have to review every thing you sign & you don’t let someone else sign documentation for you. Then the plaintiff says “I should’ve handled this *my* way” and says proof isn’t required where he’s from! To quote the legendary archeologist, mystery-solver, & investigator Scooby Doo: “Ruh roh!” 😂 The defendant better get a restraining order because that guy seems a little off his rocker. 😂
Well of course, that’s not how it’s done in “his world”. He literally thinks this is his world and the rest of us just live in it.
I do not believe the plaintiff was intentionally misled. I think the instrument cluster was replaced, and then the car was sold quickly after. Those are the facts. The game theory of why the instrument cluster was not updated with the proper mileage has a plausible explanation, and it could have been nefarious. However, I don't think this was the case, judging by the testimony of the plaintiff and defendant.
But good point about needing proof to substantiate a claim. As Hitchen's Razor dictates, "Claims presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence." People should base all their decisions on the deliberation of the facts and consider the evidence when evaluating claims.
I believe the defendant is a crook. The issue is the average person might not know a cluster change just before selling a car would roil back the odometer but this is his business so he absolutely knows the significance. He also knew the son was naive he probably talked the son up while he was there and had him sign the release without paying proper attention.I wonder how many of his cars have mileage discrepancies if an audit is done on his car sales.
@@yahdygirl used car sales are by law “buyer beware”.
That "Ruh Roh"🤣🤣
I honestly don’t see how everybody in court doesn’t burst into laughter listening to the intro man😂
The intro is for the viewers watching TV, not the gallery
@@kgrkid they can clearly hear it bc the plaintiffs and defendants react to it sometimes
It’s always so stupid
I crack up every time 😂
@@kgrkid they actually can hear it! I didn’t realize for a long time but apparently it’s played out loud as they walk in 😂
I love their accents 😂 he was ready to prove his case
People REALLY need to stop buying cars from shady little cornerstore dealerships like this. Personally, I fully believe that the defendant knew EXACTLY what was going on. He KNEW that the mileage had been rolled back. This is a popular tactic with these types of establishments. Unfortunately the plaintiff shot himself in the foot with his anger issues and lack of evidence. I'll never understand why people turn up to court with no evidence. It's like they expect the defendant to provide the proof on their behalf. 😩
I like that the judge did not let him disrespect her
She has a huge ego
Judge give it.
Too often I see a litigant who seems to think that claiming they lost the documentation and apologizing for it is as good as actually producing it for court.
I think some people believe that because they are the plaintiff, they don’t have a burden of proof
@@emo72387 I've seen plenty of defendants who also seemed to operate on the theory that "EV-I-DENCE," as the judge would say, is optional, perhaps because this is for TV or perhaps because it's "only" Small Claims Court and all they have to do is sway the judge with their personalities and gift of gab.
The way this guy was shouting "I GOT THE RECIPTS!" before following it up with "but I don't have them" was this guys whole case. No paperwork, no proof, and upset his word isn't taken as gospel.
If you don't have evidence it is a waste of time to file a case.
Yes! And then they get all offended when the judge doesn't take their word for it!
It happens so often that when a plaintiff actually brings physical proof to court, I feel like cheering.
HIS FACE WHEN SHE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THE COUNTERCLAIM !!!! IT ALMOST KILT ME LAUGHING AT THIS BIG BABY!
The plaintiffs face when he started playing a violin 🤣
The plaintiff heard JM'S pool boy story and was unimpressed, lol. He's STILL mad about those miles and the defendant is STILL saying it's "fabricated".🙄
That plantiff would have jumped on Doug if he said something smart 😂😂😂
Doug is just an inch away from getting a beatdown and that toupee going flyin anyway.
@@wadilotus 😭😭😭
@@wadilotus 😂😂😂😭😂😂😂
@@wadilotus Ahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!! 🤣
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I love this judge so much and you are a GODDESS! I HOPE YOU SEE THIS. SENDING LOVE FROM CANADA
OMG... cracked up laughfing when she asked him if he had an off button... Love it.
This is by far the best episode I have seen in a while! When she puts her feet up on the desk! haha Best ever!
The plaintiff said he should of fixed it his way... Lol 👀👀
I know right. Terrifying 😬
Bronx Talk!
Yeah ok, Mr. Frank Sinatra “My Way”….👮🏼👮🏼👮🏼
I didn't hear it
Lil short ass man kicks pigeons on the street. I doubt he does more than talk tough. 😂
Homie is not stable.
I could tell the plaintiff was from NYC just by the way he walked in!! 🤣😂
I'm surprised she didn't throw the plaintiff out sooner
Did you hear how he said “I should have handled this my way!”
@@tonicarr4480 I did! I'm surprised she didn't say anything to that
Judge Mathis would’ve! Lol
Probably knew it would bring in more views lol
@@ViraIshnia great is a chain
" I should have done things my way." ........ "Not in my world." Is that a threat by the plaintiff to the defendant?
Sounds like it to me. And, I think I heard let out a very long sigh out frustration.
Absolutely
"Should have took care of this my way!" 😂😂😂
Plaintiff was stewing in anger. I think you can see his blood pressure rise like a summer thermometer
Both of these men are full of hot air
Or something else lol
yep, you nailed it! Honesty?
I was on a long People's Court kick back when it was just bootlegs from tv posted on UA-cam, so what a nice surprise that I have a huge backlog of perfectly edited episodes from the official channel to binge now that I'm back on another kick. Too good. My only regret is the episodes end before I get the chance to hit the like button because I listen with headphones but I'll try to remember
I automatically like all videos before I watch because I have a bad memory. So when I see it liked I know I've already watched that video. No matter the channel. I watched many different types.
I love it when it backfires in the plaintiff's face. Lmfao
I'm a mechanic. On a lot of cars if you change the instrument cluster with a used unit it will show the mileage from whatever car it was taken out of. Some cars have the mileage stored in the ECM and can be accessed with a scan tool. A reputable repair shop will either have the right mileage reprogrammed into the replacement cluster or will put a disclaimer right on it by etching it.
Got it. Thank you!
The plaintiff thinks he is a mobster. 😂 😂 😂
He's just New York😂
This plaintiff is still incensed in court. I can see being angry earlier, when he learned of the discrepancy and for a while thereafter, but coming into court still angry years later makes me wonder what his view of life is and how he spends his days.
And toward the end (15:35), he ominously mutters that he "should have taken care of this my way." Uh-oh.
Hes lucky she didn't hear him say that
@@demetrielenis40 Yeah.
Even after all of that, he didn't know his son had signed saying he agrees the miles aren't accurate. At that point, a normal person would have understood they didn't have a leg to stand on but nope! This guy just keeps going on.
OMG I KNOW RIGHT?!?!! I couldn't believe it when I heard it. Sheesh...🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Fribee83 OMG talkbout being red in the face. Id b mortified and sooo embarrassed!!!!
I love the battle of the titans in their field (mobster versus second hand car salesman)against Judge Milan. She is brilliant.
Give that man a Valium. He’s wearing me out just listening to him 😂
I cant imagine having either of these men in my life in any way , shape or fashion. They are both ridiculous in the way they act and yell.
100% agree!!!
@@kush1000ful WOW
@@kush1000ful 🤣🤣🤣
as being a woman I thought the same exact thing. I’m so thankful to be single and celibate. With no crazy lunatic in my life!
Same with the judge tbh.
I legit thought the Plaintiff was going to start crying towards the end.
I legit thought the Plaintiff was going to bust a cap in defendant's behind.
Her speech about the checks is so true. This is why people need to do a paper trail. When you wanna be shady and pay cash.....get a receipt ALWAYS.
The car salesman took me back to the 1940s. Similar tactics 😂
With this attitude, I'm surprised the plaintiff wasn't kicked out less than 5 minutes into the case. Attitude, respect, and credibility is everything in court.
With that attitude he’s never going to have anything good in life
This plaintiff is a wholeee character lmao
My man said this is a federal case 😂😂😂
The plaintiff should have been given the difference based that the car's value was sold at 98,000 miles not 208 000.
The plaintiff needs to be a meme he has some crazy facial expressions haha
YOU ARE SO RIGHT! 😂
The defendant sure is a fast talker.
I thought I recognized him. Straight up CROOK! ua-cam.com/video/ih6Z2VzSiv8/v-deo.html
What do you expect?? He sells cars 🤣🤣
@@vixenuk2609Seriously 😂
judge is an amazing woman. absolutely amazing
“YOUR HONOR, I KNOW THE DEFENDANT HAS ALL OF THE RECEIPTS AND I KNOW I DON’T HAVE ANY PROOF BUT I KNOW HOW MUCH I OWE. IT’S A FRAUD!!!!”
What a crybaby 😭
It's hilarious when grown men throw tantrums!!! Love it!!!
Love how she kicks her feet up while she's exclaiming, this is my house
she actually said, "at MY house"..
meaning her actual home.
Judge: “Excuse you!”🤣
Guy: “Sorry”
Guy: “Blaa Blaa” again
Judge: “Do you have an off button?” 🤣
The dealer is lying and took advantage of the plaintiff, but the plaintiff was rude and unprepared. It's what you can prove in court.
People REALLY should run their own Carfax. I wouldn't rely on the dealer.
I was on the other side of this. I was trying to install white face gauges on a car and broke the needles. My mileage was like 215,xxx. I bought another cluster with about 93,xxx. I traded it in and told the dealer what the mileage really was. On the paperwork it said 93,xxx. Before I signed, I pointed it out again and the dealership said something to the effect of:. We can only go by what the cluster says. It was an older car that they sold off, but still. And, this was a reputable dealership.
All that headache for different gauges?? Why not just leave things alone? Thats how quality used cars end up in an early grave.. from buffoons always fucking monkeying with shit
@@sneakerfreak2002 Thanks for chiming in an utterly useless reply!👍
@@g355150 useless as your white gauges lol
After watching this case, all I have to say is this: black and white speak louder than words. I feel it for the plaintiff. In cases like this, he should have hired an attorney before driving down this highway to no result.
An attorney would have been able to help the plaintiff investigate the case, collect proper documentation before filing a lawsuit.
A lawyer wouldnt have helped asI don't think proper documentation was the issue for his claim. His son signed the paper stating he knew the mileage wasnt accurate. Paperwork was an issue on his defense however since he couldn't prove he paid the remaining amount
Discovery is a powerful thing. It transformed my case from a strong one to an absolute blowout win. Thr defendants MUST co-operate to avoid onerous fines or even prohibition from presenting a defense. Discovery is so effective.
@@miotch8225Read my prior comment.
Dude was playing the violin while the litigant was complaining then actually almost cries 2 mins later 😂
LMAOOO the way his mouth shrunk when she told him to press his off button I know someone else saw that
Something I think missed in this case is if the car was sold with a sales price based on 98k miles and in fact was more then double that the sales price would have been much lower thus he has really overpaid for the car.
Yea that’s true. That sucks for him.
when you are consumed with rage you can't handle things objectively
I’m surprised JM didn’t question this. She usually catches stuff like that.
@@shkrjam84 Because the plaintiff had no proof that the defendant knew that the odometer was wrong. Since the contract was already signed, the price IS the price. That is non-negotiable unless fraud can be proven. The plaintiff had ZERO evidence of anything like that taking place.
Finally ! Someone hits the nail on the head! COMPLETELY overlooked in this case. The man was clearly defrauded and it would have only taken a look at the Blue book value to see that he was! It’s very sad when your whole case really depends how the judge feels today and not true justice!!
Love it when she kicks people out 😂 although I wish the plaintiff would have been allowed to hear her ruling 😂
‘The man who filled out the documentation is no longer with our organization’. That’s code for, he’s swimming with the fish! 😳🤣
Guido is NOT to be messed with. If I was that salesman I'd be watching over my shoulder FOREVER!!
It wasn't rolled back, you can't roll back a odometer, the dealer said the instrument cluster was replaced, probably to repair a Guage or warning light that wasn't working.
Some (most) inst. Clusters are programmable but only at the dealership, since the true mileage is know,..bmw might be able to flash program the odometer chip.
There was no on purpose deception on the part of the used car dealership, HOWEVER it should have been explained in a way that ALL parties involved understud the issue.
My temperature gauge was not working and had to replace the cluster panel. I bought one off ebay and had it installed. The mechanic didn't change the mileage to what my old panel said. So my car reads less than it should.
The only issue is that he paid more for a high milage car.
I totally agree it should have been explained better. All the defendant needed to say was "The instrument cluster was replaced with a used one. In most cases the odometer mileage is stored by the instrument cluster, not somewhere else in the car. A used instrument cluster will show the mileage of the car it was removed from, not the one it is installed in." Too often people who are in a business where this is common knowledge forget that other people don't understand how it works, or even saying "the cluster" isn't as clear as saying "the instrument cluster." There was a point I was really afraid the defendant might lose his case because he never clearly explained it and the judge didn't understand. She kept saying and likely still believes someone intentionally rolled back the mileage.
my husband blew an engine in my little sports car. we elected to replace it with one from a junkyard. it had less miles on it than the blown engine. my odomoter replects the mileage of the old engine. It could have easily been an engine with more miles and still the title woild be correct. this was an interesting case
@@Xterraforce Exactly. Very well said.
I love how judge Millian does her homework.
I wouldn't like to be the one telling the plaintiff that we're having chicken for dinner instead of steak!
I am a dealer in Ontario, Canada, and by law we must disclose material facts that would alter the potential customer's opinion of the vehicle in a very detailed manner. If the cluster has been replaced, it must be reported to the customer and they must sign a statement on the bill of sale attesting to that. I don't know what the rules are in the plaintiff's jurisdiction, but he got duped and it's no wonder he is fuming mad. The dealer must research the vehicle's facts before sale. The defendant shuffling all that paperwork around made him look shady also..
I'm scared for the people around the plaintiff. He is a fighter.
😅 yup. Feisty...uhhhh boyy
he's a dim bulb too and the two don't mix well for others lol
No
No he is NOT. stop this. He is a big baby that plays big, he's a liar, a moron and he probably hasn't been in a fight in his life unless getting his ass kicked by bullies. This car salesman could probably easily take him. He is scarily mentally ill....but he is not a tough guy.
@@juneslugg2 I doubt he is a fighter...he's a big baby and probably hasn't fought in his life except for being bullied. He's all talk.
Dude's a wind bag, not a real threat.
This is the defendants second time getting sued 😂😂. He’s prepared for his cases and seems like a nice person!!
Right? He even corrected the plantiff in saying he actually made 11 payments instead of nine and to not bother with a repo.
Yup. I remember him.
The Plaintiff is annoying as hell.
Yeah he's been there before with lemon cars
Lol.... do y'all remember the name of the defendant's previous case?
The announcer sounds like the killer caller in the Scream movies …
I absolutely love this Queen my favorite judge all-day
Did anyone catch him making a veil threat at 10;37 "I should have taken care of this my way!" Question is, what is his way? As for the case, I love Judge Milian but i feel she missed the mark on this one. I feel strongly that Car Dealership had some knowledge of the car's mileage prior to selling. Why, because it was too easy to research. They fraudulent sold the car with that disclaimer fully knowing it was clearly over 200k...which would have decreased the car's value significantly.
I think the son missed the mark on this one, not Judge Milian lol. That's why you should read what you sign.
Nothing fraudulent.. cluster was changed before it made it to the used car lot causing a low reading on the odometer.. the car is a 2008..The federal law states that if your car was made before 2010, you're not obliged to disclose the mileage when selling it and the marked it as true mileage unknown ! The paperwork say current Odometer reading..which was 98K and dealer sold it as unknown true mileage... I buy a lot of cars.. I have a $15 scanner that gives all faults and actual mileage and I do my own car fax, but car fax isn't that good as private repair shops do not file repairs, only dealerships and ins companies report to car fax.... mileage stored in computer can't be changed.
No, the judge was right. Court deals with evidence and the only thing the plaintiff brought to court was his anger and sense of entitlement. The mileage had been rolled back, but who and when is unclear. The son signed the form clearly saying that the true mileage is unknown. Big mistake.
@@user-bo1rj2xu2s I have been a mechanic for 35 years.. YOU CANNOT ROLL BACK A 2008 BMW ODOMETER... it is digitally controlled and permentantly logged in computer.. If you understood what is meant wen a cluster is replaced you would know what happened.. A cluster has a new Odometer in it, so when it is installed, the new odometer reads zero. The 2008 BMW has no way to set the visual reading of mileage back to where the old one is... They obviously replaced the cluster at 136K..after hat it was driven for 98K... The guy who sold the car knew the cluster was replaced and only stated the visual Odometer reading is 98,000 but does not know if its true.. He only had the car for 10 days.. when he got it, the odometer read 98K.. Since this was a 2008, he does not have to fid out the actual mileage when he sells it.. If it was 2010 or up, then he would have to get a computer hooked up to read the actual mileage stored in the Electronic Control Module...BUT THERE WAS NOT A ROLLBACK..A CLUSTER WAS REPLACED..IT IS A COMMON THING TO REPLACE FOR MANY REASONS AND IS VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO AND NOBODY HID THE FACT BECAUSE HE HAD THE PAPERWORK SHOWING THE CLUSTER WAS REPLACED.. NOOO WAY TO ROLL IT BACK...LOL
@@robertwadas I understand what you are saying. The plaintiff had no case against the car dealer.
The look on the plaintiffs face at 15:15 was priceless!!
I purchased a vehicle that had a fraud issue. Somewhere before I bought it the cluster was opened and the warning lights were covered up! I noticed with a couple days and ended up being able to return it for all my monies back!
18:05 was pretty funny too lol
When you replace a gage cluster you have to program it with the mileage. Obviously they intentially shorted the mileage. They only use drills on the old manual odometers.
I think the defendant absolutely rolled the mileage back and slipped in that disclosure form in a sneaky manner.
The mileage wasn’t rolled back a new cluster was put in . The new cluster would have the car it was originally in miles