R5 ISSUES That Must Be FIXED In The R5 Mark II | R8 Mini Review | Sony APS-C Incoming!
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TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Mr. Whippy!
0:05 Monster Video!
0:37 How about the R8?
4:53 Final thoughts
5:52 R5 Issues that need fixing!
10:38 Firmware Update
10:51 160 MILLION???
11:19 Sony's Next Camera
I’ll admit as a Nikon shooter, the amount of quirky changes Canon makes to the physical controls between bodies seems very odd to me. I love that no matter what Nikon body I pickup from the last 5 years or so, buttons and controls are in the same place.
Yes it helps a lot
a question please,
When you're shooting video at this zoom, Canon - RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM Telephoto Zoom Lens - White
How wide does it open for you?
And this zoom too I have the same question on, Canon - RF 800mm f/11 IS STM Telephoto Lens for EOS R Cameras - Black😊
Along with an audible shutter in electronic mode, the ability to choose a suitable frame rate would be helpful.
Oh yes!
Hi Jan, yes, all of the above improvements to the R5ii please. Also, an autofocus system that stays on the subject (birds in flight) and doesn’t constantly jump onto the background would be very welcome.
Hope you’re doing okay health wise.
Best
Julian
Your R5 constantly jumps onto the background?
@@jan_wegener Yep. Always has, through every firmware update. I generally use it with the RF100-500 and I’ve missed so many shots because of it. It drives me crazy!
Question: Related to the R5 issues mentioned, don't you believe it's possible for Canon to address those issues (or, at least, some of them) through a firmware update? Not every photographer has the luxury to update his camera to the latest model, all the time! lol
I believe that camera brands should support their cameras with bug fixes, updates and upgrades for a longer period... Even more when we're talking about a R5 camera with a 'pro' price tag. I appreciate Canon continuing to support the R5 through firmware updatesbut I'm concerned it will stop as soon as the R5 mark II arrives :/
I'm still waiting for the possibility of rapidly changing the eye in focus (left/right) as I find that the AF selects more (than I would like) the eye further away than the closer one (in people, at least) or other issues with shutter shock, for example.
Thanks for your time and dedication!
There are some things that cannot be changed or not changed easily with firmware updates, and if it is hard to change it costs mofe money to do it since the engineers take more time to fix the issue instead of doing something which brings money, so Canon is less likely to do so.
The buffer zero issue likely has something to do with the data bus and the memory controller chip. Updating this chip with firmware or microcode updates may not be possible or simply unwanted by Canon. The "slow" bootup time of the camera likely cannot be fixed with an update.
I guess these things are taken for granted on Nikons. I know that bootup and shutdown time on Sonys are really bad.
It just shows that no camera is perfect and there will always be trade offs.
I am sure some of it could be FW, some other stuff may be hardware, not sure.
I guess the argument would come down to, what's a "bug" and what is by design as Canon would say ;)
Very nice video as always Jan. I hope Canon fixes many of these R5 issues in the big firmware update - not the R5 MK II. We paid top dollar for R5, so they have an obligation to fix the issues. Additionally, I like to see the overheat warning disappear. I do slow motion 120 fps videos and get a lot of unsettling warnings in the field. Hope they address these.
I start to have my doubts that we will see any huge FW updates, but I may be wrong.
Hi Jan, these are all good points. Seeing the wobble between shots when reviewing is annoying. What I would like to see is that when the camera is on standby and you raise it up that it automatically turns back on instead of having to press a button first. Same for the EVF which should come on as soon as it senses the camera moving toward your eye. This seems like a firmware update should handle this issue.
Omg I'm so waiting this video!!! Thank you Jan for advance!
Coming today
@@jan_wegener good! More bird photography : D
Was thinking about the r8 but ibis is a must for me. Thanks
Thank you Jan - Another excellent video! My wish-list for the R5II is rather short:
- Stacked sensor (45+ Mpx) and therefore faster readout speed and usable electronic shutter
- Autofocus as good as the R3 (or even better)
- Smart Controller AF on Button
- Two CF Express for faster backup
- 14 bit for all shutter functions 🙂
Sounds Nice!
As always, great info. WRT additional items for R5 Mk II, or better yet my R5, underwater shooters really need one button white balance, which has been added to the R5C. We need to change WB every 10 feet of depth due to the loss of reds, then yellows in the first 50 feet. Also, it has come to my attention, the hard way, that WB photos MUST reside on the same card as the videos. It took me several days to figure this out, despite professional assistance. The only way to achieve this is to have photos written to both cards, with videos on the CF Express. None of the pros had been using two cards. Cheers, Dave B.
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍🤗
You are so welcome
Thanks to Nikon, now it seems more than reasonable to ask for a staked sensor in this price range.
Totally agree! I'd be shocked if an R5 MK2 without a stacked sensor would motivate me to upgrade.
And thanks to Canon, every Nikon shooter is expecting the next release of the other mirrorless models to have Nikon’s latest processor and autofocus system. Competition is great for photographers!
@@Jviotryes the cheapest nikon body do good eye tracking is z8 that's ridiculous.
Agreed
Sony introduced the A9 with a stacked sensor for @ $4,000 in 2017...
Improved sensor readout speed is a must. Also no EVF stutter during bursts and EVF lag - miss some birds taking off and exiting the framing or panning shots because the EVF is slightly delayed.
I guess the faster sensor should also fix the lag
Jan,
Thanks for great videos!
In a R5ii I’d like to see a metering feature that follows your focus point not predetermined areas like the R5 has now.
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I had a similar issue with a slow start-up, and it was because of the memory card. If I remember correctly, Lexar UHS-II was causing this for me. With all the other cards I have (both SD and CFExpress), R5 always boots instantly.
Canon just need to give us the new firmware for the R5. But I fear they wont and will try to force us to buy the new R5 II.
probably
I think the 'Buffer-issue' is a non-issue. I can count the times when I got close to a full buffer on one hand. I don't see a problem with the wobble. I 'wobble' more than the camera ever will. I don't give a thing about a R5 II, I'd rather have a FW update for the R5 allowing slower frame rates when using the electronic shutter. And a little audio confirmation when shooting electronically. Everything else would be a bonus.
The R5 does not allow slower frame rates in electronic shutter mode? There should not be any reason for this and it should be easily fixed.
Having some shutter sound for the electronic shutter should also be an easy and no brainer fix if the R5 can output audio.
Better dynamic range for low light and small single AF on pupil of eye
The buffer was a bit of an issue for me, sometimes, and this, considering I used as fast a card as I could find, and shot in cRAW. The wobble between frames was never an issue. For one thing, it was completely unnoticeable when just looking at an individual frame. And for another, I shoot with a tripod almost always (for other reasons) but I think since my camera barely moved between frames, that eliminated most of the wobble too. I'm talking in past tense, because I sold my R5 for a second R7. I need reach more than anything.
Yes, the more still the camera is the less wobbles.
I agree whith your points, I would add improved battery life, and better power handling when camera is off/idle. Then I would love unlimited custom modes as there is no reason why we can only have 3 whith no physical dial, beter vido/photo switching. Finally apossibility to use it as a webcam without installing drivers. Outside of the camera I would love to see better app experience (both phone apps and DPP)
Sounds great!
Agreed with your want list on the R5 (except that I don't want or need pre-burst). But I want a no-blackout EVF to help in tracking fast-maneuvering birds. I also want (but won't get) a bigger battery in the R5ii in order to get immediate focus on the big lenses like on the R3.
Yes that would be great!
I got the r8.. i had extra batteries already from the camera i upgraded from. I wanted the r6 mkii just didnt have the extra 1000 us. It can use the battery grip from the rp i believe. Thanks for the mini reveiw. Also walking around in a open field with no clouds i notice that it started gstting alittle warm the temp. Gauge showed up but it cooled down quick once i got in shade.
Thanks for sharing
Nice if included weather touch condition rating too climatic change
It's interesting how long buffer clearance is on best brand cards like Sandisk. I use Angelbird SE and Kingston React Plus SD in my R5. Best price/performance ratio. Sad thing is if multiple recording is set, SD is slowing all down. I became using cRaw due to this on SD.
Jan I think what Canon needs to do is bring out a semi-professional camera body like the R5 in a crop frame because the the R7 just has too many shortfalls and no vertical grip this is what I am waiting for Jan , great video as always thank you .
We all want that camera
@@jan_wegener thank you for the reply there Jan , with that Z8 and the Z9 that you've been trying have you shot in the crop mode to see how well that will turn out and do those Nikon cameras have electronic first curtain , I would love to know about that hi Jan as always thank you for the reply .
Electronic Shutter with Flash or rather Focus Bracketing with Flash is what I want to see in an R5 Mark II. Thanks for the video!
Oh yes that would be good. R3 can do it
Hi, great vídeo! I’m also very curious about the R5ii, let’s see how it will hold up against the competition. What it seems to me is that, even though canon managed to keep the FSI sensor technology alive and competitive, that might coming to an end with the industry moving towards stacked sensors… I don’t think that the R5 will have a stacked sensor, it’s probably being tested for the past 2 years, along side the much anticipated RS one. But it will have, nonetheless, a very fast sensor with one or two modern chips to help decrease readout speed. Maybe the 14bit raw files all around, or maybe, who knows, 16bit raw files and 12 or 14 bit raw video. That’s what I think, anyway, that they will focus heavily on the software specs side. Let’s see!
All best!
My main issue (fix) would be the time it takes to power up or wake from sleep mode. I switched to CRAW, and since doing so I never hit the buffer, the files are half the size and I see no resolution problem when editing them. With the cards I use I get 99 shots in the buffer. I do get the annoying 'wobble" sometimes, normally on a subject that is flying - I would like a stacked sensor in the mark2 version - but at the same time it's not a deal breaker for me. IF, IF - I thought the autofocus and tracking on the Z8 was better - I'd probably switch to that camera - so hoping Canon does a R5 mark2 with a stacked sensor with better power up. otherwise, I'll wait to see if we ever get an R1
Let's hope we will eventually see an R1, too :)
The main problem with the new Sony will be not the spec but the handling. I have just come back from a wildlife shoot over a few days using the 6100 along side my A9 and the compactness of it was great but the number of times things got nudged into the wrong settings was very annoying. The buttons when having wet and cold fingers were also just to small. I wish Sony would of made a decent size apsc like Canon and Fuji...Keep up the great work...regards.
Yes I really hope it will get a much improved body
Pre capture would be a big plus. 👍
I am sure it will get it
I just would like a stacked sensor, even if I am not sure it's so necessary, considering R5 has a better AF and bird eye than Z9 and Z8.
I hope Canon remove the low-pass filter in the mark 2 version. Another thing..I really like the R7 wheel. Hope they can add it on the new mark 2 too. Some shutter sound for the electronic shutter would be nice to have as an option. Better autofocus for flying birds when disturbing backgrounds. 😄Helen
I'd be surprised if they changed the lay out, but may happen. I do like the odd wheel, too
Another very useful piece. I hope your health improves! BTW, what are your thoughts on the Portkeyes monitor after using it for some time?
I still like it but all shorebirds have left here for summer breeding so I have not used it that much
I would like to see the focusing system from the R3 and R7, which allows you to adjust the size of the larger focusing areas.
I am sure that will come
Jan, Have you tried the Fuji XH2S in bird / wildlife photography?
No
I have a question, often we are shooting alot of pics of one bird, but different angles etc. Wow to choose this best one ?
Also in r7 are You prefer to use Mechanical or electronic or maybe 1st curtain shutter?
I use first curtain. In terms of poses, there some that I like best where the bird looks at me and I can see the tail and as much of the bird as possible
I used to be an R5/R6 shooter. Since I have my R3, it is primary for field, and R5 is my studio camera. The R3 is ultra reliable and has no hang issues. I just did an airshow and in 6 hours, 4'400 images and not a single hang on the R3. I suspect that the hang issues on R5 are battery (LP-E6NH) related and yes, I use OEM batteries and have 5 of them.
I am looking forward to the R1
Michael I have the R3 as well and I've used it at the Miramar Air Show and at the Edwards Air Show and you're right it is a fantastic camera for the air shows as far as the batteries I use to wasabi batteries and they last even longer than the Canon and they cost the 1/3 of what the Canon batteries cost , and I have 3 of these batteries .
Yes the R3 has none of these issues, I just don’t love the 24mpix for my work, I mainly use it for video.
I totally agree about the R1 needing to come out but I am pretty sure we will see an R5 II first
Hey Jan - Not on topic, but I watched a prior video of yours' that mentioned dual back-button focus so I tried that out and it immediately clicked for me (thanks!). Now I use one button for tracking AF and another for center point AF and the flexibility is great. My question is, the shutter speed required for moving subjects vs still subjects is obviously different typically, so wouldn't it make sense to map AF mode *and* shutter speed to a single customizable button? For example, custom button #1 with tracking AF and 1/2000 and custom button #2 with center point AF and 1/500. Maybe I'm missing a way to make that happen already, but it seems like a natural extension of dual back-button focus customization, right? Cheers, hope you're feeling well.
Buffer issue should be relatively easy to solve, as it is most probably software (firmware) issue.
Wobbling would be much harder to solve, as it needs new stacked sensor.
I want to add two problems-one I’ve heard about and one I’ve experienced. My articulating screen short circuited and overheated the entire camera while the camera was in the Off position. This has nothing to do with overheating while shooting video. It cost me $400 because Canon had to replace all three LCD screens (including the one in the viewfinder, and the entire motherboard. I’ve heard of the second problem in which the flash attachment breaks loose. I don’t use flash much but I do put a lightning detector on there. You’ve got me leering at Sony cameras especially since they don’t have that wobble I’ve seen while scrolling through images on the back of my R5. The only thing keeping me from cheating on my Canon system is the horrible Sony menu system that I am loathe to figure out.
thanks for sharing
Hi Jan. First off,i really enjoy your videos,,thank you.
My question is will your pro sets work with PS Elements. Thank you.
Chris.
I believe it depends on the version. I think from 6.0 up it does, the versions where you can install profiles.
@@jan_wegener Thanks,mate. I am using the 2019 version. I will have a look.
Another great video from you Jan. It's not the camera bodies that Canon should focus on right now, but their lenses, eg the Canon RF 800mm f/5.6. 3,140 kg. and costs more than double the Nikon Z 800mm f/6.3 and weighs only 2.385kg. Based on this, I am considering switching to Nikon. So Canon get out of the starting holes and let's get some light weight L prime lenses. Not f11 as there is now. But f/5.6 - f/6.3 @600mm. @800mm. and perhaps with built-in 1.4Tc.
Nikon definitely has the most attractive lens set up right now
I've said it more than once, I'm waiting for a R5Mkii. I'd like to see dual card slots, that use the same cards!
You and me both!
Aside from the issues with the R5 you mentioned, I have two more items for the wishlist related to the RF600f4. Sometimes it seems as if IBIS and lens IS fight each other when using IS mode 1 for fast birds in flight. The bird in the viewfinder seems to 'jump' at times. Switching to mode 2 helped in this case. The other request is that it would be great if the battery were powerful enough to use both focus motors in the 600f4. It's such a waste to have the motor without being able to use it.
Agreed!
I’ve had the same issue with this combo. Seems to affect the R3 as well. People have told me I’m crazy when discussing mode 1 IS and IBIS and the issues that come from it. I commented about this a while back on one of Jan’s. It’s photography show with Glenn. I’ve really started moving to turning IS off for fast moving birds when I have fast shutter speeds as opposed to Mode 2, although I am not sure yet that it’s any better than Mode 2.
Sorry for the typo. I commented on that on one of the Bird Photography Show videos when they were talking about BIF.
@@ryansanderson1010 In my experience, IS mode 2 works well for birds in flight to prevent the 'jumping ahead' of the bird in the viewfinder. I don't think IS is necessary when the shutter speed is high but it might help the AF to acquire focus.
A Sony A7 V style flip screen would be great
Yes!
For R5 mk2, Gps, more consistent and reliable wifi/bluetooth connectivity.
If the R5 Mkii doesnt have a stacked sensor, I think it will be time to change systems. They basically have to put a stacked sensor in to their new model if they plan to even keep up with with Sony and Nikon now
Well, thus far only Nikon has stacked high mix sensors at that price point, but I agree. I somehow feel like we won't get it tho
Since I also use the R5 with RF 600/4, the wobbling really gets on my nerves.
In addition, a relatively large number of images are not really sharp in fast series of images - even of relatively immovable subjects (especially in high-contrast light).
I also often see kind of 'distortion' in the images when checking at 200% and comparing between the individual images in a series. I don't know if this is due to IS, but it's very annoying.
What I really miss is a second CFExpress slot (or combination with SD) to be able to shoot redundant series without the SD card slowing down the fps.
In addition, an individual setting of the fps in the ES, if possible with switchable acoustic feedback, would be very desirable.
The last two points could certainly be solved via FW update, if only Canon wanted to.
Same here, the wobbles are really annoying, especially on such an expensive combo.
Yes, two CFexpress slots are needed, too.Time to abandon SD cards
Hi Jan. Nice job on the future improvements that you would like to see on the Canon R5. I also appreciated your comments regarding the R8. No 3rd adjustment wheel on the camera body, no joystick, no IBIS, different battery, etc. would definitely affect my purchasing decision for buying this camera. Also, do you know where I could purchase the small camera model body with the telephoto lens attached that you showed near the end of your video?😊
I got mine off eBay, they do come up from time to time
Hey Jan, The R8 misses many important features from the R bodies with a lower number .. but can it be it also misses out on the wobbles (due to not having IBIS) ??
On the R5ii must haves I fully agree with you. The wake-up time was the biggest disappointment after coming from the R6, even when you get used it a bit. Two years ago I saw CFxB as a waste of money, now I'm hoping the R5ii gets dual CFxB because they now give much better value for money compared to SDXC ..
Yes! Dual cfxb would be great!
@@jan_wegener Aber wie du sagtest, den Stacked Sensor wäre ja vielleicht das wichtigste! Jetzt fliegen wir ein gutes stuck deiner Richtung, deswegen habe ich nur ab August wieder zeit YT zu schauen. Aber ich melde mich falls ich dein Ziel-vogel gefunden habe 😛
What about prorade sd cards?
The R52 needs to have better dynamic range. My A7SIII has way better dynamic range on photos and video.
I do have a question for you. My R5 screen in the back with photos looks so contrasty with highlights and shadows on a neutral profile and perfect exposure. I’m in AdobeRGB. Is there a way to fix this because is looks different from what shows on my computer.
Interesting about the time it takes for your R5 to turn on.
My R5 has consistently turned on quickly since launch?!
it seems to depend on a bunch of factors. Memory cards can affect it a lot. Mine is usually fast to turn on, but sometimes it just takes forever
The speed of turning on and coming out of sleep in the R5 is definitely an issue. After using the R7 as my main camera for quite a while, going back to the R5 with that lag can be painful.
Yes, it's odd and not always happens, but often enough to be quite annoying
In the R5 MK 11 I would like to see dual CF express B cards and a removal of the 30 minute video limit.
Yes!
Does the lack of ibis in the R8 mean there are no wobble issues with wide angle video?
I suppose so
I guess we can kiss goodbye to the v2 firmware for the R5 then? I guess that was vapourware?
If everyone is talking just about "pls put this or that in the M2"...yes. People should not buy the M2 if Canon is not fixing some of the problems in the firmware.
I think the longer it takes the less likely it will be
What with numerous channels upselling the R7/R8 . I find it astonishing that none mentioned or questioned by Canon never considered offering a free Adapter so that EF users that did buy those Camera's could still use there EF Lenses . Considering the prices for the RF Prime lenses and the lack of good quality affordable Non branded Canon lenses . And anyone buying into Canon RF gear needs at least a Spare 15,000 - 20,000
Instead canon will raise prices on the adapters soon 🤪
Turning on.. is dead slow sometimes. Or even reacting to my inputs while its still on but in some kind of "sleep" mode. I've been shooting a lot of events. The camera was on. I picked up the camera when the runners were coming.. but it took 2-4s until the camera could focus. Then it was already too late.. VERY annoying when the camera already was on.
That’s why I never let it go to sleep mode.
Hey Jan, another "high quality video"...!
I don't think Canon will listen to user wishes and finally come around the corner with a modern stacked sensor in an R5II, which would be a significant improvement. Thus, as an R5 user, I am not interested in paying another 4500 EUR or more for an R5II, to get features that cheaper models already have. What is feasible should be implemented first with a firmware update. Speaking of wishes, a focus tracking mode like Nikon already has, that just tracks a self-selected spot, single field or group without having to activate an eye tracking mode, that ends in jumping to somewhere if no person, animal or vehicle is the subject. Since I don't just shoot birds or people, this would be helpful for landscape shots to focus on a selected object in the foreground and recompose the frame. So far there is only a servo mode and you have to move the field oldschool manually, like on a DSLR..
Hey,
I think the R6 II & R3 have that kind of tracking mode already. I don't know if that never Af could be implemented in an original R5
I purchased the Sony A6600 as canon had stopped development on 7Diii ( I am a canon user and have 7Dii with L grade lenses) as it was the only camera with animal eye AF that I could adapt my canon EF lens to. At the time of purchase there was no canon R7, even rumours were rumours !
For its size it is a great little camera, and it's only limiting factor is price. As I do believe it is at least £300 over priced !
Thanks for sharing
Do you remember back in the day how everybody complained about Canon not using CCD sensors…. and what do you shoot today? CMOS of course. In every major brand. Because of Canon. Complain about shutter roll. But I am confident Canon engineers are not sifting through youtube design tips for inspiration . There is either a cheaper solution compared to a stacked sensor, or there needs to come a reduction in cost for stacked sensors. My money is on the former.
It would surprise me if Canon would offer a camera with a stacked sensor in the $4000ish price range. I don’t think they’ll undermine the R3 by producing a lower-priced model with more megapixels and a stacked sensor. This was likely Nikon’s gamble - lose out on short-term profits by aggressively pricing the Z8 in order to cut into Canon’s market share on higher-prices models.
Canon doesn't have a stacked sensor in the 45 MP to 50 MP range like the Nikon Z8 or Sony A1. The R3 is the only camera with a stacked sensor but it's only 24 MP.
Will be interesting to see, I think they will have to at some stage to control the wobbles that the other manufacturer don't have. I don't think the R3 is selling that well, that it wouldn't be outgained a lot by a R5 II with stacked sensor and the people who want an R3 would likely still buy one.
Hey Jan. R5 shooter here. Stills, not video. I do have some overheating issues in the summer months. I have the latest firmware. I was wondering if you had any suggestions on settings that might minimize it before it starts. Or tricks on how to recover from overheating in the field. Currently I move to the shade, remove the battery and curse a lot! I love this camera most of the time, but as soon as it gets over 80 degrees, I seem to encounter issues. Any advice is appreciated.
If the R5ii gets a stacked sensor I wonder what the R1 will bring to the table.. if we ever get that R1 😏
Interesting point, hopefully some better body, better AF and ... :D
Canon doesn't have a stacked sensor in the 45 MP to 50 MP range like the Nikon Z8 or Sony A1. The R3 is the only camera with a stacked sensor but it's only 24 MP.
R8: Thank you for the opinion, I completely agree. The tiny LP-E17 battery, overpriced severely, barricaded by a chip, is clearly the Achilles heel of this product. The LP-E6 would be ideal.
Zebras is stills would be nice
Yes!
I never switch my R5 off!
One item I would like Canon to correct. When i get to 9999 the next file goes to 1. With the high speed shutter, this comes up way to fast. the file name is 32"a letter" "number sequence to 9999" I wish they would make it so the letter changes when the number get to 9999 and goes to 0001. Maybe there is a setting I am not aware of and would be happy to learn it.
I think all cameras do that for whatever reason
Why would you suggest to fix it (buffer) in the M2? I feel like this is something that they should fix in the R5 Firmware now! The problem is not slow hardware, it's freezing, so they should be able to fix it.
Agreed, but I think it may be hardware related?
The r5 has a bad habit of getting stuck on the background when a small subject is close to the minimum focus distance. The r3 and r6ii don't have this issue. Hopefully the r5ii rectifies this.
The R5 II should get the newer and improved Af for sure
My improvements for the R5: better battery life, faster frame rate, no rolling shutter, and improved autofocus, especially when it annoyingly back focuses!
sounds good
Backfocussing might be the fault of the lens.
This is actually a know problem for all mirrorless cameras. My two main lenses are a 600mm f/4 and 400mm f/2.8
How about Zv-E10? I just bought one and whole set filters from Kase store. Want to find more skill!
No IBIS and no joystick is a deal breaker on the R8
I guess with both of them it would just be a R6 II :D
To me, the top things to fix in the R5 Mark II are:
-'The rolling shutter. Please give us a stacked sensor, Canon!
- Better battery life. Do we need the battery to keep the top LCD lit while the camera is off?
- Internal GPS instead of needing to link the camera to my phone's smart app.
- HD/240 and oversampled 4K up to 4K/120.
I take all those, too. Good points
Hi Jan, yes the biggest thing I hope canon sort out is the total camera blackout/lockup which can only be sorted by switching the camera of & removing the battery;
I haven't had too many occurrences of this but a good friend who does a lot of bird photography with me has had quite a few & especially recently on a safari in Africa. It was good thing he also had a 5Dmk4 with him. Cheers Steve. PS really enjoy your channel & cool videos
I fully agree! My R5 locked up in this way sometimes 10 times in a very short time, i was on the brink of throwing it into the waters. With subsequent updates, it became a little better. However, i still think it is a disgrace for Canon not to be able to solve this.
My R7 is much better in this respect, but not free from it.
Thanks! Luckily I never had that happen on my bodies
With the R5ii getting closer, I'm getting more worried that we aren't going to see the hoped for major firmware update for the original.
I feel the same way unfortunately
@@jan_wegener I like the idea of camera makers possibly charging for future updates if that means they actually do it, but even that seems like it could hurt mkii sales, at least for a while.
Question: Quite often in the middle of a burst of shots, using electronic shutter, the screen will suddenly freeze. I wait a while but it seems stuck. I turn the camera off and on and the screen is now black. Only when I turn it off, remove / replace the battery and turn it back on will it start working again. This happened 3 times in one session, sometimes it doesn't happen at all. I can't put it down to settings as I am usually on the same settings with the same lense. Does anyone else report this problem?
Sounds like some freezing issues some people experience. What Firmware are you on?
@@jan_wegener March 2023
1.8.1
This is happening to me as well on an R6II with the newest firmware :(
near term "tactical" changes that I would like to see is improved auto focus and quick recognition and lock on the subject. I've missed many great opportunities by trying to initially focus manually and then switch to autofocus. "strategically" I'd like to see Canon adopt in body AI processing and image recognition to perfect its auto focus and other capabilities. The same transformational changes we are seeing in Adobe Photoshop Beta can be introduced into the processing CMOS of all mirrorless cameras. That will be the new competitive landscape. And- I really enjoy and appreciate your channel.
There will be no in body "AI processing", Adobe also does not have AI in their software but it has the result that the AI delivered in the lab. So you might get a similar functionality in a camera body one day but please understand that the only "AI" components that will be in the camera are the patterns and algorithms that resulted from AI processing in a lab.
@@phelanwolf6747 Adobe AI is part of the algorithm computational power in their cloud and most probably using NVIDIA technology. AI will be a set of computational algorithms that can be processed within the camera very much in the same way that you have eye tracking. The "lab" can be in the cloud or a small instance on a chip.
Spot on about the buffer Jan. I don't really notice the burst issue. Although the R5 was a revelation as far as eye detection with wildlife is concerned (putting me up from 2-3 keepers / 10 to about 9 / 10) - what I did notice was the 5D IV performed better had held shooting at relatively low shutter speeds panning prop aircraft. Other users noticed the same. Think it's to do with in body IS : theoretically should have improved keep rate; did the opposite!
I thought the R5 already had a stacked sensor but just slower than the R6 Mark II.
Only canon with a stacked sensor is R3
@@jan_wegener Ok.
Hopefully your wish list comes to fruition with the R5, but the way Canon has been with upgrading and releasing higher end cameras, it may happen by 2026....
let' hope it will be 2024 :D
Great video as always Jan. Will be very interesting to see how that new Sony will do when it comes to bird photo. About the R8. It looks like a great camera for it's price, but as you said, there are some things that are not good. Maybe a R8 mk II in the future will change that.
Wish you a great last part of the week, and looking forward to see the video with the zoom lenses.
Cheers, Bjoern
Thank you!
I still have Canon 5D4 DSLR which I will upgrade in the next 12 months. I’ve been a Canon shooter all my life .For me if the R5 Mk11 doesn’t have a stacked sensor I will definitely switch to Nikon as I also need to upgrade Lens and for wildlife Nikon have a much better lens lineup and as it stands Z8 or Z9 would be my choice.I can’t be the only one thinking Canon has fallen behind as a wildlife shooter.
usually the companies go in cycles, the last year was definitely Nikon, let's see if Canon and Sony will jump ahead again
Yes I agree it goes in cycles but I I’ve never seen them fall this far behind particularly on the lens front, they are just not coming up with the lenses I want as a wildlife photographer.
Hopefully Sony will not cripple the a6700 with 10 fps, or a tiny buffer like they did on the A7RV.
Yes!
I really don’t understand why Canon keeps changing the camera’s layout on every single camera, it makes it confusing for consumer, and also, wouldn’t it be more expensive for them to keep producing new designs instead of reusing the ones they already have?
Yes, it's a bit odd
For me, the limited buffer, rolling shutter, and IBIS wobbles are three very important limitations in the current Canon R5. I hope that Canon will adopt a new backside illuminated stacked sensor with improved IBIS algorithms in the R5 II to address these issues. I would also like to see preburst shooting, an audible setting for the electronic shutter, improved autofocus with AI to better identify the subject and maintain focus with tracking, and Nikon Z8-like improvements to aid in astrophotography. I would also like to see better integration between EF and RF lens built-in image stabilization, and the R5’s IBIS to better stabilize the viewfinder image during both photography and videography.
Yes please to all of these :)
Hi real here question where is the R1 ???
Yes, will still be a while I think
Yes, i hear that from Canon shooters for years that the R1 would be the real Canon flagship since the Nikon Z9 hit the market but there's nothing.
Nikon offers Z 8 and Z 9 both cameras with stacked sensor and Sony A1 performance for a much lower price. Where is Canon with that? Only R3 is having a stacked sensor but only 24 MP resolution. And affordable good Canon lenses where are they?
To be fair no one except A1 can shoot 30 fps full raw at 50mpix, but besides that they offer a lot the A1 can do.
@@jan_wegener Ok, that 5 mpix difference and 10 fps difference in raw doesn't make it a deal breaker. 20 fps is more than enough (or 30 fps in jpeg). but the biggest difference is the price. Z 8 is much more affordable.
In your upcoming video on zooms, can you please share your thoughts on the new RF100-300? Duane did a great video on this and would like to hear your thoughts and reaction to his video as well. Regarding the R5, the buffer issue and rolling shutter are the most critical updates needed, in my opinion. I almost switched over to the Nikon Z8 and would have if the autofocus was as good as Canon’s and if they had a third wheel. I didn’t think it would matter that much, but it really did in the field for me. I had the Z8 with the 400 2.8TC and the autofocus was just not nearly as good as with my R5. I actually put that lens down to use the R5 with 100-500 at critical times because I knew I wouldn’t miss the shot.
Thanks for sharing! I have not used the 100-300 yet
I have a fix- Sony A1 😎
hehe, maybe if it gets video eye tracing :)
@@jan_wegener IKR, my wife’s a74 has that 🙄
Sony A1 is terribly overpriced now compared to Nikon Z 9 and Z 8.
@@jorgepinogarciadelasbayonas I switched from Nikon 6 years ago. They are starting to catch up but still doesn’t have the native mirrorless lens selection. I don’t think the BIF tracking is as good either.
If it weren’t for the fact I’ve bought all the Canon gear, and I knew all the better features of the Nikon. As well as Canons expensive lenses, I would have purchased a Nikon for sure. Canon have done themselves a disservice by pricing their lenses waaaaaay too high.
I've been with Canon for more than 20 years and I've always liked their cameras and lenses. I have to say though - Canon is in last-chance saloon with me. I'll wait for the R5ii and the R1 announcements before making any decisions, but if neither of those bodies fixes all the issues with the current line-up then I'll switch to Nikon. As things stand, the R3 is the only body from Canon that ticks most of the boxes for me - but it loses out when it comes to resolution because I have to crop often, even with a 600mm prime. Nikon also seems to have a better and more affordable lens line-up for wildlife - their 600mm TC in particular (although this one has a premium price!), but they've also got a nice looking 180-600mm and a few others in their line-up that Canon simply don't offer. At the moment, a Z9 main body with a Z8 backup combined with a 600mm TC, a 180-600mm walk around and a 400mm f4.5 - along with a few others - seems like the best set-up for me. I'll wait for a few announcements from Canon before making that decision.
I share the same thoughts, but what still irritates me is that Canon R5 has a good processor and a good sensor, I believe many of those things can be fixed with firmware updates. Sometimes I think Canon likes to "milk" its loyal customers. I am still tempted to switch system (sell my R5 and R6 mk2 and my RF and EF lenses) but unfortunately I don't have time to go to find another system and learn it before my vacation. Maybe I will do when I come back
@@michelebelotti2022 The R5 is a very fine camera all around. My main problem with it is the lack of a stacked sensor. It is starting to show its age in some regards, but if it had a stacked sensor (and better buffer) and everything else was the same, I wouldn't be thinking about jumping ship to Nikon. I still use my 5DIV - I tend to hang on to my gear for a long time - but a stacked sensor, for me, is a must when I upgrade to my next full-frame mirrorless body.
A much shorter review time as 2 seconds is way too long. A red light night mode like the GH5 when shooting skyscapes at night. When I change the brightness of the screen I need that change across ALL profiles. It is so annoying when you switch profiles the damn screen lights you like a lantern. Why only 99 for a timelapse? Yes yes, I use LRT pro timer but it is not always with me. Updated codecs?
Your gripes are very niche and specific to pro-level wildlife photography, why would you need to fill up the whole buffer when you can take around 180 photos with the high speed burst? Do you really need all 180 frames? Maybe you do, but the other 99 percent of photographers shouldn't be holding down the shutter and praying they take a good still. And the wobbly frame is specific to the electronic shutter which only the R3 sort of fixes with its stacked sensor but that's a €6k camera
depending on the situation, ISO and a few other factors, the buffer can be much smaller than that.
My R3 still has the wobbles, albeit less.
I just want the 30 minute video limit removed from the R5 😩 😭
I am hopeful that will be gone
You simply wish R8 had IBIS, third wheel, same battery as R6II while it already has the same sensor and processor. Why would anyone on earth pay $1000 more if R8 really had those three
I know why they left it out, but that doesn’t change some of the issues it may cause 😀
I think it’s a great camera
@@jan_wegener I know but those should not be a criticism to R8. Its like saying BMW 320 is slower than 330 or M3 of course it is. And there is nothing wrong with it.
@@frankluo230 it was more meant as an fyi 😀
Your comments about the R8 aren't relevant to enthusiasts who might buy that camera.
You just have much to much wants