i forget something... my suggest to u if u wanna fight someone, check the eagle statue first. but i know if u wanna just make a joke with attack Mr. Roy. btw, Nice Joke! 👍🤣
Hey Chaos, that chart you put up with the recommended vessel/orlay for each character laid everything out very nicely, I wouldn’t mind seeing it more in future videos. Great content as always 👍
It’s nice when we get little buffs to heroes like Moskov, but they never really seem to change the weaker heroes in significant ways. He remains a rather rng dependent hero with his stun and orlay, plus his more consistent abilities like energy drain still feel a bit lacking. A hero on par with Aurora or Guin for the dark faction really would be nice, and Moskov is technically set up to fit that position. Mostly I’m glad that his two curses at the start are predictable so we can plan accordingly in mirage and endless darkness. Anyways, can’t wait to face Pharsa in the next mirage 😬 and here’s to hoping that the dark faction’s first hybrid will be just as strong as these other two for the sake of dark tower.
I think the guild war bonuses does not take affect in simulations. But, in real battles they do and take affect. Probably, the reason sims give us a false hope of a win.
I think it does , it's just that some skills are random just like the max glory support that was supposed to transform shar in the simulation , others are also like Esmeralda's Divination which is random, and don't forget about crits which are random too.
Hey Chaos, it's been a while since I've commented on your videos, been too busy in real life :P But when I saw the list of heroes and their recommended investment levels for the Dark Tower, I realised that something's gone really wrong with the priority of heroes to invest in!! I understand that your investment choices are more geared towards the PvP aspect, but not everyone follows such priorities just to have a shot at top PvP :( Rather, I'm sure that most players would rather have the most efficient process in PvE while sacrificing the PvP aspect of things. After all, everyone gains resources from PvE rather than PvP, and being able to optimise PvE aspects over PvP aspects is certainly more critical for ensuring consistent and smooth progress through the multiple stages of the game. While I do generally agree with the Soul Vessel and Orlay parts of the list that you shared at 3:37, there are some pointers which I wish to point out that could probably help way more for those who are more focused on the PvE aspects of the game. 1. Alice isn't as high on priority for heavy investments like Ancient Twilight and Glorious Evolution as she seems to require. Alice falls off the Dark Tower when the power difference between your teams and the enemy teams increase. As her damage scales from her Soul Vessel ability that activates only when lesser enemies are on the field, enemies that are harder to kill will prevent your Alice from outputting the big numbers that people most commonly claim that she is capable of dishing out, all the time. All these weaknesses however, do not warrant spending as much on her Glorious Evolution so much as to say she needs to be maxed out, and should only apply if she is still able to dominate in other forms of content like PvP or the Campaign, so much that not going for her Glory Gems is also acceptable as they only improve her offensive capabilities. Alice hence relegates herself pretty quickly to the clean-up crew if she is even alive, while still retaining the singular valid point that she is just a control sponge for the rest of her Dark allies. Also, she contributes to Pharsa's damage with her high Attack, so raising her to AT2 for the Attack bonuses instead of AT3 would definitely be more viable for saving the most precious Ancient Lenses. 2. Selena on the other hand, should be taking the investments that Alice would have gotten! As you've mentioned before in previous videos, "consider her a mini-Shar if you will", turning enemies against themselves is a quality that is highly prized, especially at high power differences between you and your enemies. While Alice will fall off because of her difficulty in dishing out high AoE damage, Selena does not have such problems as while she is a relatively single-target damage dealer, has high AoE damage coming not from her, but the enemies that she has charmed. Additionally, due to the lack of Angela in the Dark Tower, it hence becomes more critical for Selena to obtain minimally AT2 instead of the proposed AT1, as being able to increase her Attack by up to 90% when enemies are charmed by her is certainly more valuable to have around as she is able to damage her charmed enemies much more significantly. This also contributes to her Orlay abilities, which have missing HP% scalings that are capped by her maximum Attack, so having more Attack for her helps Selena to not just deal damage, but also execute when she is in her abyssal form :P The amount of control she applies also does quite a bit for the team if she obtains all 8 of her Glory Gems, her allies damage on charmed enemies will increase significantly, and that includes her too :D 3. Lylia is somewhat of a controversial pick here, but I also feel that she could obtain more Glory Gems too, and that having all her Glory Gems will make her a more solid supporter for the team. For the same reason as Selena, she can control enemies to increase the amount of damage that her allies deal, allowing them to deal even more damage on top of her SV10 effect that already increases effective damage by 40%!! Considering that she can be used in the Campaign and Tower of Babel too, she definitely will want such investment and you benefit more from her investment, especially as her base Battle Power is also pretty low and could prevent you from starting stages. :P 4. For the rest of the adjustments, I'm going to go over them briefly as the comment is long and I still want to talk about Moskov's adjustment :P - Helcurt could get 3 or 6 Orlay cards if you can afford it, it makes him a nightmare against a PvE Valir/Aurora in the Dark Tower - Vexana only needs 6 if you use her strictly for clones, having extra damage that isn't fast is fine if you don't need her damage - Moskov may get 3 Orlay cards if you can afford it because being able to interrupt front-row control is also quite valuable (control is control) and having AT2 instead of AT1 would increase the total amount of Energy debuffs that he can inflict on the enemy team Oooookay.... now Moskov's adjustments, buffs, rework, whatever you call it. :P Recently because of the adjustments on him, I've started using him more often (also because I have his Vessel maxed) and he seems to be a really solid support rather than a damage dealer! Perhaps my impression of Marksmen have been fixated on the amount of damage that they are able to output, but Moskov has pretty much changed my mind about how Marksmen could have been intended to work. Instead of outputting high amounts of damage, he outputs crazy amounts of control and debuffs, and putting him aganst a Lapu-lapu that could go CC-immune after an Ultimate, or a Lolita that oneshots you in the tower.... certainly, being able to buy more time for the Mages to deal damage is a rather desirable trait to have. The rework on the skill itself has allowed him to become a more reliable controller, albeit only for the front row. Yet, any control is good control, and we all know that Lylia, Selena and now Pharsa are the stronger Darks for that reason xD For those who don't believe in Moskov, give him a chance! Upgrade his Vessel the way Chaos mentioned, give him some love, and perhaps, he will surprise you the way he surprised me :P As someone who pushes the Dark Tower at way greater differences than the average player (I'm at 561, with an estimated 35-40m against 110m power), the Moskov buff has definitely surprised me too. A lot of content, take your time to read through it, and find me on Discord (for Chaos only) if you're still curious ;)
Hi Apple, it isn't more geared towards the PvP aspect, it's 100% PvP related, since I no longer play the game. As you can see from my level, I can easily clear all of them towers past 600 floors but I'm not doing it haha. Others have also taken the lead in Babel ( I'm doing 1 floor/day for quest ). Like I've mentioned countless times, I don't upgrade heros I don't use in PvP, so pretty much only Pharsa would be getting any investments. Suggested list isn't set in stone what everyone must do. Alice is suggested for the tower, cause I enjoy the certainty of her skillsets. There's no retry as happened quite often with Selena. Either way, a Selena, or an Alice, won't make a difference if you're not using them in PvP. It's entirely up to your preference what you do in the tower, it won't change Honor result :D
Now do subjective tier lists for pve, pvp, and bosses :3 no time restraints tho take ur time especially with so many heroes in the game just provide insights on why you think these heroes are good or bad in your pve, pvp, or bosses. Also explain what the tiers mean to you and the criteria you want for heroes to be good for pve, pvp, or bosses, and put in disclaimers since its your opinion and should not completely be taken as fact I know this is too much and too risky since it can gather angry simps but its a genuine concept plus i like ur content :3
In mlbb ,Ruby is just the life steal queen. Can do a lot of lifesteal ,massive cc and tank well at the same time. I think in mla might be the same expect the cc or the heal might be better
According to survey I get, there no survey about Benedetta, but the other hero is Ling, Vale, Beatrix, Aamoon, and ofc Ruby. I wonder why Moonton give different survey for each player 🤔
question: currently I am struggling t deal enough damage in campaign because of this I started to build up a tia. however my friend keeps telling me that I should be trying to get my 5 star akashic higher first. my team is currently awakened 1 estes ,5 red star freya, 5 red star grock, 5 red star angela, and 2 red star nimbus eudora. I dont know what to do. btw my tia is currently 1 red star.
Hi Ron, I answered you in another comment. You need to use a real dam dealer, the squad is built around that one guy. You can pick one from Elemental : Valir , Esmeralda. Dark : Alice, Pharsa, Vexana, Selena. Martial : Irithel Light : Odette Tech : Mecha Layla. Any of those will help you get through the Campaign until the enemy gets 2 squads, then you need a 2nd dam dealer.
Ho Milo, include an Angela in any of your teams. And have a plan of attacking ( how you're taking out the enemies, given the time allowed is only around 6 seconds )
Wait, I think Ruby is Tank and Dark Light? In Dark, Alice is useless in high Tower, because you have said on another video, "Alice is falling down in High Tower"
If it really ruby,i thinks she will likely to be 60% martial and 40% dark.ruby in mlbb gives off "dark hero" vibe (idk how to explain that😂) but basically what i tot is,just bcuz she wear red, doesnt 100% mean she will be in martial.........i mean,we already have hayabusa (bruh).let says she's dark,in term of lifesteals,im sure she would be better than karina oh and another point is,it's 50/50 either tank or fighter. (aint no way she'll be sumelse like marksman or especially support😂😭) conclusion is,we don't need any of her abilty if it would be like that right?
Hi, I think the colour heavily imply that she's a Martial. Martial would also fit the TM release pattern ( Martial after a Dark hero). The Martial squad is pretty much done, you can clear the whole tower with the current heroes. So new hero has to perform in PvP otherwise there's no point :D
Nope,I just meet a really strong Moskov(all maxed+Lv 459)and he still suck😂.No damage at all....I just swapped him then boom he died.His stun is not reliable for PVP and Masha does exist for his lucky stun...
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Hi guys, got destroyed by Infinity last weekend lol. Quick update on the Dark tower, since the Dark Hybrid isn’t coming yet.
Nice Vid. 👍
i forget something...
my suggest to u if u wanna fight someone, check the eagle statue first.
but i know if u wanna just make a joke with attack Mr. Roy.
btw, Nice Joke! 👍🤣
Hey Chaos, that chart you put up with the recommended vessel/orlay for each character laid everything out very nicely, I wouldn’t mind seeing it more in future videos. Great content as always 👍
It’s nice when we get little buffs to heroes like Moskov, but they never really seem to change the weaker heroes in significant ways. He remains a rather rng dependent hero with his stun and orlay, plus his more consistent abilities like energy drain still feel a bit lacking. A hero on par with Aurora or Guin for the dark faction really would be nice, and Moskov is technically set up to fit that position. Mostly I’m glad that his two curses at the start are predictable so we can plan accordingly in mirage and endless darkness. Anyways, can’t wait to face Pharsa in the next mirage 😬 and here’s to hoping that the dark faction’s first hybrid will be just as strong as these other two for the sake of dark tower.
I think the guild war bonuses does not take affect in simulations. But, in real battles they do and take affect.
Probably, the reason sims give us a false hope of a win.
I think it does , it's just that some skills are random just like the max glory support that was supposed to transform shar in the simulation , others are also like Esmeralda's Divination which is random, and don't forget about crits which are random too.
Hey Chaos, it's been a while since I've commented on your videos, been too busy in real life :P
But when I saw the list of heroes and their recommended investment levels for the Dark Tower, I realised that something's gone really wrong with the priority of heroes to invest in!! I understand that your investment choices are more geared towards the PvP aspect, but not everyone follows such priorities just to have a shot at top PvP :(
Rather, I'm sure that most players would rather have the most efficient process in PvE while sacrificing the PvP aspect of things. After all, everyone gains resources from PvE rather than PvP, and being able to optimise PvE aspects over PvP aspects is certainly more critical for ensuring consistent and smooth progress through the multiple stages of the game.
While I do generally agree with the Soul Vessel and Orlay parts of the list that you shared at 3:37, there are some pointers which I wish to point out that could probably help way more for those who are more focused on the PvE aspects of the game.
1. Alice isn't as high on priority for heavy investments like Ancient Twilight and Glorious Evolution as she seems to require.
Alice falls off the Dark Tower when the power difference between your teams and the enemy teams increase. As her damage scales from her Soul Vessel ability that activates only when lesser enemies are on the field, enemies that are harder to kill will prevent your Alice from outputting the big numbers that people most commonly claim that she is capable of dishing out, all the time. All these weaknesses however, do not warrant spending as much on her Glorious Evolution so much as to say she needs to be maxed out, and should only apply if she is still able to dominate in other forms of content like PvP or the Campaign, so much that not going for her Glory Gems is also acceptable as they only improve her offensive capabilities.
Alice hence relegates herself pretty quickly to the clean-up crew if she is even alive, while still retaining the singular valid point that she is just a control sponge for the rest of her Dark allies. Also, she contributes to Pharsa's damage with her high Attack, so raising her to AT2 for the Attack bonuses instead of AT3 would definitely be more viable for saving the most precious Ancient Lenses.
2. Selena on the other hand, should be taking the investments that Alice would have gotten!
As you've mentioned before in previous videos, "consider her a mini-Shar if you will", turning enemies against themselves is a quality that is highly prized, especially at high power differences between you and your enemies. While Alice will fall off because of her difficulty in dishing out high AoE damage, Selena does not have such problems as while she is a relatively single-target damage dealer, has high AoE damage coming not from her, but the enemies that she has charmed.
Additionally, due to the lack of Angela in the Dark Tower, it hence becomes more critical for Selena to obtain minimally AT2 instead of the proposed AT1, as being able to increase her Attack by up to 90% when enemies are charmed by her is certainly more valuable to have around as she is able to damage her charmed enemies much more significantly. This also contributes to her Orlay abilities, which have missing HP% scalings that are capped by her maximum Attack, so having more Attack for her helps Selena to not just deal damage, but also execute when she is in her abyssal form :P
The amount of control she applies also does quite a bit for the team if she obtains all 8 of her Glory Gems, her allies damage on charmed enemies will increase significantly, and that includes her too :D
3. Lylia is somewhat of a controversial pick here, but I also feel that she could obtain more Glory Gems too, and that having all her Glory Gems will make her a more solid supporter for the team. For the same reason as Selena, she can control enemies to increase the amount of damage that her allies deal, allowing them to deal even more damage on top of her SV10 effect that already increases effective damage by 40%!!
Considering that she can be used in the Campaign and Tower of Babel too, she definitely will want such investment and you benefit more from her investment, especially as her base Battle Power is also pretty low and could prevent you from starting stages. :P
4. For the rest of the adjustments, I'm going to go over them briefly as the comment is long and I still want to talk about Moskov's adjustment :P
- Helcurt could get 3 or 6 Orlay cards if you can afford it, it makes him a nightmare against a PvE Valir/Aurora in the Dark Tower
- Vexana only needs 6 if you use her strictly for clones, having extra damage that isn't fast is fine if you don't need her damage
- Moskov may get 3 Orlay cards if you can afford it because being able to interrupt front-row control is also quite valuable (control is control) and having AT2 instead of AT1 would increase the total amount of Energy debuffs that he can inflict on the enemy team
Oooookay.... now Moskov's adjustments, buffs, rework, whatever you call it. :P
Recently because of the adjustments on him, I've started using him more often (also because I have his Vessel maxed) and he seems to be a really solid support rather than a damage dealer! Perhaps my impression of Marksmen have been fixated on the amount of damage that they are able to output, but Moskov has pretty much changed my mind about how Marksmen could have been intended to work. Instead of outputting high amounts of damage, he outputs crazy amounts of control and debuffs, and putting him aganst a Lapu-lapu that could go CC-immune after an Ultimate, or a Lolita that oneshots you in the tower.... certainly, being able to buy more time for the Mages to deal damage is a rather desirable trait to have.
The rework on the skill itself has allowed him to become a more reliable controller, albeit only for the front row. Yet, any control is good control, and we all know that Lylia, Selena and now Pharsa are the stronger Darks for that reason xD
For those who don't believe in Moskov, give him a chance! Upgrade his Vessel the way Chaos mentioned, give him some love, and perhaps, he will surprise you the way he surprised me :P As someone who pushes the Dark Tower at way greater differences than the average player (I'm at 561, with an estimated 35-40m against 110m power), the Moskov buff has definitely surprised me too.
A lot of content, take your time to read through it, and find me on Discord (for Chaos only) if you're still curious ;)
Hi Apple, it isn't more geared towards the PvP aspect, it's 100% PvP related, since I no longer play the game.
As you can see from my level, I can easily clear all of them towers past 600 floors but I'm not doing it haha. Others have also taken the lead in Babel ( I'm doing 1 floor/day for quest ).
Like I've mentioned countless times, I don't upgrade heros I don't use in PvP, so pretty much only Pharsa would be getting any investments. Suggested list isn't set in stone what everyone must do. Alice is suggested for the tower, cause I enjoy the certainty of her skillsets. There's no retry as happened quite often with Selena. Either way, a Selena, or an Alice, won't make a difference if you're not using them in PvP. It's entirely up to your preference what you do in the tower, it won't change Honor result :D
Now do subjective tier lists for pve, pvp, and bosses :3 no time restraints tho take ur time especially with so many heroes in the game just provide insights on why you think these heroes are good or bad in your pve, pvp, or bosses.
Also explain what the tiers mean to you and the criteria you want for heroes to be good for pve, pvp, or bosses, and put in disclaimers since its your opinion and should not completely be taken as fact
I know this is too much and too risky since it can gather angry simps but its a genuine concept plus i like ur content :3
In mlbb ,Ruby is just the life steal queen. Can do a lot of lifesteal ,massive cc and tank well at the same time. I think in mla might be the same expect the cc or the heal might be better
Isoya is going to scream this anytime soon.
I'm basically just waiting for her to come soon lol
I need hybrid dark / light support
According to survey I get, there no survey about Benedetta, but the other hero is Ling, Vale, Beatrix, Aamoon, and ofc Ruby. I wonder why Moonton give different survey for each player 🤔
Hi, I think we need to wait for skin surveys haha. Skin survey is the one confirming a hero everytime xD
i knew benedetta will release b cuz of the thumbnail on the other yt channel
Infinity member here, just here to say I got scammed by simulation too :)
No Bene survey tho.Clara and Tokinibara got one each...
sry I am late but I think after rubys tinted mirage, the dark hybrid will be sooner than esmerelda.
Also.... Moskov will be ultimate annoying in next tinted for sure 😱😱
hey chaos what is the best to up in hall of glory support class is it the healing inc the %stats or the add shield thats the one i currently unlock
Hi mafuyu, focus on the right tree and max out the whole tree ( it's for Angela, Akashic, Shar )
Injustice here. I might be back on anniversary event if there is. Super busy and cant afford to login.
I make food hanzo, helcurt,moskov and thamuz is it okay?
Poor Alice :(
question: currently I am struggling t deal enough damage in campaign because of this I started to build up a tia. however my friend keeps telling me that I should be trying to get my 5 star akashic higher first. my team is currently awakened 1 estes ,5 red star freya, 5 red star grock, 5 red star angela, and 2 red star nimbus eudora. I dont know what to do. btw my tia is currently 1 red star.
Hi Ron, I answered you in another comment. You need to use a real dam dealer, the squad is built around that one guy.
You can pick one from
Elemental : Valir , Esmeralda.
Dark : Alice, Pharsa, Vexana, Selena.
Martial : Irithel
Light : Odette
Tech : Mecha Layla.
Any of those will help you get through the Campaign until the enemy gets 2 squads, then you need a 2nd dam dealer.
Too bad that we have to wait more for the dark hybrid hero. I also think that Moskov will be harder to fight in tinted Mirage
Yep. He was already hard enough before the auto curse :(
The H... Ruby is Hybrid with Dark? Martial&Dark🤔
No she isn't. She's a normal hero, meaning the Dark Hybrid isn't coming yet.
GG 😂
chaos can i ask who is the worst to best order hero. i know lunox is best but what are the others
Yoo i wanna ask, in an oberon, lunox akashic team, who are the best ones to fill in the last 2 slots?
Ho Milo, include an Angela in any of your teams. And have a plan of attacking ( how you're taking out the enemies, given the time allowed is only around 6 seconds )
Simulation sucks. Moonton should definitely make it infinite number of simulations attack.
Wait, I think Ruby is Tank and Dark Light?
In Dark, Alice is useless in high Tower, because you have said on another video, "Alice is falling down in High Tower"
Hi, Hybrid is an elite upgraded, so Ruby isn't gonna be a Hybrid. And Alice is used more as a tank rather than a dam dealer :D
If it really ruby,i thinks she will likely to be 60% martial and 40% dark.ruby in mlbb gives off "dark hero" vibe (idk how to explain that😂) but basically what i tot is,just bcuz she wear red, doesnt 100% mean she will be in martial.........i mean,we already have hayabusa (bruh).let says she's dark,in term of lifesteals,im sure she would be better than karina oh and another point is,it's 50/50 either tank or fighter.
(aint no way she'll be sumelse like marksman or especially support😂😭) conclusion is,we don't need any of her abilty if it would be like that
right?
Hi, I think the colour heavily imply that she's a Martial. Martial would also fit the TM release pattern ( Martial after a Dark hero).
The Martial squad is pretty much done, you can clear the whole tower with the current heroes. So new hero has to perform in PvP otherwise there's no point :D
Never trust simulations :D
Since moskov got revamped does that mean he is usable in arena and pvp?
Nope,I just meet a really strong Moskov(all maxed+Lv 459)and he still suck😂.No damage at all....I just swapped him then boom he died.His stun is not reliable for PVP and Masha does exist for his lucky stun...
Hi, PvP heroes need to be completely maxed out. I'm suggesting a lv 1 illumination vessel on Moskov, means he's not used in PvP :D
i hope it's a healer lol
I think it's most likely Rafaela :D
Simulietions😂😂
haha vs ifinity your guild has no chance