As far as I know you were not allowed to even hit a slave, otherwise they had to be freed (sahih muslim 1657a:" He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free".) . Thus I cannot imagine how rape would be allowed.
Nice try, but Sahih Muslim 1657b clarifies that “He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him (without any serious fault), then expiation for it is that he should set him free.”, which means that if the master of judge deem the beating to be justifiable, then it is permitted
@@samytouabi4087 Firstly that's not how hadiths work, 'a' = sahih and 'b' = hasan, making 'a' more reliable. Secondly, you're a bitter individual who wants to lead people away from Islam. You have a choice to either let Islam live in your head rent-free and stay bitter, or you can move on with your life and find something more fulfilling.
Thanks for this. There are some dubious opinions I have heard grown up saying that consent wasn't needed, but it never made sense to me since such a thing directly goes against the spirit of the Deen.
@@BelievingPhilospher suuuure, Book 15, Number 4094: Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
I thought sura 4 ayat 25 covered cases in which a muslim is allowed to marry believing slaves if the slave's relatives agree and other conditions. Or am i mistaken?
In the Old Testament a father could sell his daughter as a concubine. She thus would become a slave. It was possible for a master (in fact it was encouraged) to beat a slave if they did not carry out their masters word. Thus non consensual sex was a norm in the Old Testament
John 8:44-45 kjv 44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
So non consensual sex was a norm in the old testament does that justify it for Islam like this is nothing apart from whataboutism like it was wrong in the old testament so same standards should apply like two wrongs does not make a right have you heard that phrase before
Hello Paul. Thanks very much for excellent channel and high quality contents you offer us. However, for those of us who prefer listening to podcasts rather than watching UA-cam videos (esp. during long travel), we suffer from the delay in uploading the new episodes on the podcast. We have to wait for a few weeks before we are able to listen to them. I wonder about the possibility of making the podcasts available quicker agter the UA-cam video uploaded.
Agree that the relationship with a female lady known as "slave" although the proper word used in Quran and Hadith is: "Amah", is somehow parallel to marriage. These are 2 systems very much similar in many ways the speaker mentioned some. One point worth to mention is that Islam prohibited abusing those servants. Imposing your self on her is an abuse. If there will be a relationship between both, it should be by her consent. And actually this is a way towards her freedom.
@@f1aziz Marrying another woman or having sexual relationship with other woman, who is not your wife is Adultery. So, having sex with a slave woman is adultery.
@f1aziz It's adultery = crossing Allaah’s set boundaries! And that's self-harming even if doesn't appear to oneself! You would never ever see a right given in the Qur’aan to take someone as slave but only to free!
In Deuteronomy 21:11--14, a similar case of concubinage is discussed where a Jewish man can have intimacy with their concubines (war captives) and there is no categorical provision about whether or not such necessarily have to be consensual.
@@LIVEREALFOOLED You christians that pester muslims throw your own bible under the bus 🤣, then accuse Muslims of taqiyya. Every accusation is a confession. Now let's unpack your misinformation. The abrogation you speak of is it the same abrogation as when Jesus said to mimic those that are ungrateful to their slaves? Luke 17:9, "He does not thank the slave because he did the things which were commanded, does he? So you too, when you do all the things which are commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done. '” Or perhaps you mean same abrogation as when Jesus said in Mark 5:17-20 "“Do not suppose that I come to dismantle the Law or the Prophets. I do not come to dismantle but to fulfill. For truly I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not one iota or letter stroke will ever pass away from the Law until all is accomplished"
@@LIVEREALFOOLED Jesus said in Mark 5:17-20 "“Do not suppose that I come to dismantle the Law or the Prophets. I do not come to dismantle but to fulfill. For truly I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not one iota or letter stroke will ever pass away from the Law until all is accomplished". Did the heaven and earth pass away?
@@LIVEREALFOOLEDno, this verse means that jesus follows the torah. "Until heaven and earth pass away, not one stroke of the pen will disappear from the law." Keep the law like jesus said, pagan polytheist.
The speaker speaks from a well-studied understanding of the topic. He made a good point about the judges making ruling on practical matters, which is a tough thing to grasp. Maybe, for clarification, this can be added - a slave is entitled to legal protection, he or she can make complaints to a judge. Also, the general idea is for a slave to have a clear pathway by a contract to independence, for example, to stay for this many years, or to make this much money and they become free. Freeing a slave is encouraged and forcing oneself onto another is inherently understood as a crime.
Hey Paul, real question. What is meant by Sura Nisa Verse 24: "And also forbidden to you are all married women (muhsanat) except those women whom your right hands have come to possess (as a result of war)." ?
Great video. All the past "Islamic" empires "glorified" by the Muslim ummah all practiced this concubine system a form of torture that most "Muslims" sanctified today. Which caused a great question in my mind about the validity of those "Muslim" empires. I started to study the history of fall of Mughul empire, Ottoman empire etc. And realized how unjust those societies were towards Women. The children born to those massive number of concubines of those "Muslim" emperors later prayed against their own " fathers" which I believed lead them to their own destruction. Basically Allah destroyed those empire by giving power to the disbelievers. I never believed that any "Muslim" empires were great after the demise of our four rightly guided khlif. All of them were oppressors. This video clarifying my beliefs into conviction. Alhamdulillah! Thank you brother Paul. For the video.
Concubine system isn't torture what are you talking about?? And your argument doesn't hold up there were concubines in the time of Rasulullah ﷺ as well as during the 4 rightly guided khulafa. So if the concubine system is the reason for the injustice of the muslim empires that came after, it all started as Rasulullah ﷺ was alive... Sorry but concubines are something Allah ﷻ allowed out of His Wisdom and none can do something about it.
@@hmzzrg5045 Please read the history. Those "Muslim" empires built separate buildings to keep these mistresses. They had different levels of status in the four walls of those castles. More like a cage. Their children couldn't go out nor they enjoyed any freedom. The children born from their unethical se*ual practices were numerous. They were ill treated and kept in the castle like prisoners . Where in Islam it says you can have thousands of women unjustly? Produce thousands of children only to treat them unjustly ? Prophet Muhammad s.a.w ever had hundreds and thousands of mistresses? But those ottomans, those Mughals had. Please don't try to validate something oppressive under the guise of Islam. Enough!
It is THE INJUSTICE that comes with that position. No woman would choose to be a concubine. No man would want his mother, sister or daughter to be a concubine. The prophet dramatically changed the rights of women during his lifetime for the better. It is on us in these times to keep the legacy and keep changing it for the better.
@@S678oi7xe for you concubines = injust. It doesn't matters if you have one or a thousand the reasoning is still the same. If it's allowed to have one it's allowed to have a thousand doesn't matter as long as they were obtained lawfully. Who are you to make haram what was made halal by Allah?
Interesting conversation. I do think there is more nuance in the matter. There seems to be ikhtilaf based on what I’ve heard some say about the matter. Like a wife, a concubine/slave isn’t “allowed” to resist because it’s not their right to begin with. You do not abuse them-as that is THEIR right-but whether taking YOUR right can be considered “abuse” or not is likely a matter of dispute. After all, how could you have your right as a Muslim be negated by the whims of someone who’s essentially a prisoner of war due to fighting *against* Islam? Having the right to not be harmed doesn’t mean they can take away your Islamic right based on an arbitrary whim. That would be inverting the master-slave dynamic where the master is at the mercy of the slave. I think the truth is more uncomfortable than some would like to admit. It isn’t barbaric like Western chattel slavery, but it’s still a LITTLE more uncomfortable than most would like to think about in modern times, thanks to societal programming and presentism.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Muslims punish captive women by raping them for "fighting against Islam" when it is mostly Muslims who started the war to conquer foreign land and "sPrEaD IsLaM". Islamic scholars feel the urge to glorify everything related to Islam when Islam is not perfect at all.
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Asalam alaykum. I've always loved to see your videos about Islam and I hope that you continue to do them. But I think you should look into the rulings on drawings of animate beings. There are very heavy repercussions for this, dear brother. I think there are about 5 or 6 ahadith that talk about it, and maybe some other sources. Please look into it for the sake of Allah
Brother Paul May Allah bless you it’s neither permissible to show a women’s face especially with make up or to draw living creatures (including drawing them with AI) please don’t forget you’re an influencer and a role model.
Thank you for this interesting talk. Is one of the take-aways from this that Islam condones slavery? Many of the citations seem to describe ways to make slavery acceptable. Also, the remedy for rape is divorce? No sanction or penalty on the rapist? Seems unfair.
A couple of years ago another guest of Islamic jurisprudence said that concubines are permissible. From this episode, I gather that this guest also thinks so, but perhaps relations with slaves is prohibited. What is the Arabic word for concubines?
There is no word for ‘concubinage’. The Qur’aan condemns the practice as what it is : ‘whoredom’. All these scholars who claim the Qur’aan allows sex with slave girls are up their own backsides. He Paul brings these guests on, because they parrot the views of various scholars from the salafi and Hanbali school. If you read the text of the Qur’aan , the Qur’aan only allows sex in the married state. It specifically talks about this in relation to slave girls in sura 4.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Surah 33:50 states that sex with women captured in battle is allowed. These women are referred to as those your right hand possess which means slave. So abusing women as sex slaves is perfectly fine in islam according to Mohammed and his Allah.
@@John-critic Not true. Any references to sex with slave girls can only be in their context of marriage. Sura 4: 25 is explicit about this. The only difference with a free woman, is that a free woman must receive a dowry while the slave girl obtains her freedom. Even if we take your interpretation, slave girls were treated a million times better than what they had to endure under Christians or secularists did. In Islam, slaves could rise to high positions of authority. Ottoman sultan Suleyman married his slave, his grad vizier was a slave.
What is good and what is bad is only defined by Allah and is only for Allah to establish. So if Allah says a man can have concubines, it means the act of having concubines is good. Allah commanded Ibraheem to sacrifice his son, So did Ibraheem say that is a bad thing to do? Rather he submitted to Allah's will without having ill thoughts or setting up debates. Because what Allah permits is good and what Allah forbids is bad. Now since we have established what is good and what is bad, then who is anyone else to claim anything about these matters? We hear and we obey that is what makes us Muslim. Not debating and challenging Allah's commands or having ill thoughts about them.
Maşallah thank you for the great clarification. İmam Tom Facchine also put it in a great way mentioning that integration of other races in society always happened through marriage or sexual relations. And so making the concubines halal for sex was a method of making them a part of the household and a part of society. The initial colonization of India was also not a violent racist and white supremacist torment it had actually happened by marriages between Indian women and English men and a lot of mixed progeny from them who were born in India and spoke the native languages and followed the customs.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Do you have any idea how many of those Indian women were raped? I can’t believe people are trying to white wash colonialism already. Just to justify raping slaves. Too soon, too soon. Mixed marriages were not remotely the reason the East India company was able to subjugate the states in India. Those mixed kids were hugely discriminated against (bc they were the product of rape). Indian fathers didn’t just happily start giving their daughters to white racist colonizers. If you are able to fall for something so easily, imagine the other ways such “imams” can mislead you.
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Assalamwalykum. I would like to draw attention of admin. Please avoid explicit images especially women. Your videos are excellent and have a stable viewership. I believe there is no need to use AI generated images especially women. The purpose is to spread Islam and using these images are counter-productive. If needed, please use images of nature. Or, real photos (without any depiction of animate beings).
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Muwatta Malik chapter on Blood-Money i.e. financial compensation. Book 43, Hadith 15 " Malik said, "When a man intentionally goes to his wife and gouges out her eye or breaks her hand or cuts off her finger or such like, and does it intentionally, retaliation is inflicted on him. As for a man who strikes his wife with a rope or a whip and hits what he did not mean to hit or does what he did not intend to do, he pays blood-money for what he has struck according to this principle, and retaliation is not inflicted on him." Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that Abu Bakr ibn Muhammd ibn Amr ibn Hazm took retaliation for the breaking of a leg." If you accidentally gauge out your wife's eye with a whip or accidentally cut off a finger, there is no punishment. It sounds to me like Justin is trying to give beautiful narratives about times that were harsh. He does that by omitting all evidence that disproves/contradicts his beautiful statements.
The punishment is payment of blood money. Western law also accounts for intentions when determining punishment. Hence distinction between manslaughter, 1st 2nd degree murder etc. I’m sure you think you are knowledgeable, but your lack of intelligence and reasoning ability is embarrassingly obvious. Maybe ask chat gpt to write something for you next time?
I enjoy the content but this page shows the distinct lack of any Muslims scholars from Africa or the diaspora. Mostly Asians and Whites. This is despite the fact that the people who gave Da’wah in the UK in English were people like Dr Bilal Philips, Dr Abdul Hakim Quick, Imam Siraj Wahaj etc. Yes, not all of them academics, but many swathes of the Asian community did not give Dawah in English at all in the UK until around 10 years ago. Also the contribution of the Somali community cannot be downplayed yet nothing of that nature on this page despite their being many Muslim academics from these backgrounds. Ajeeb
Hi Paul please interview Proff Al Massari. He’s the head of the Islamic renewal party / a new Madhab practically speaking after 40 years of research and hard work
C. Baugh “Minor Marriage in Early Islamic Law” p 10, footnote 45. 45 Almost invariably, as jurists consider the legal parameters of sex with prepubescents, (“at what point is the minor female able to tolerate the sexual act upon her”/matā tuṣliḥ lilwaṭʾ) the word used when describing sexual relations with a prepubescent female is waṭʾ. This is a word that I have chosen to translate as “to perform the sexual act upon her.” This translation, although unwieldy, seems to convey the lack of mutuality in the sexual act that this word suggests (unlike, for example, the word jimāʿ ). It is worth noting that the semantic range of the word includes “to tread/step on;” indeed this is given as the primary meaning of the word. See Ibn Manẓūr, Lisān al-‘Arab (Beirut: Dār Ṣādir, 1955), 2:195-197 Wat was not necessarily seen as something that needed to be punished. It was permissible.
Did you even bother reading the rest of that book? The whole thesis of that book is that there was no solid consensus on permissibility of sexual relations with minors… Blithely claiming “it was permissible “ while quoting a source whose thesis is that definitive claims cannot be made is either born out of ignorance, or sheer dishonesty
@@oay335 P 235 "As with Jewish law, however, the issue of what to do with the prepubescent non-virgin challenged this classification scheme that identified marriage with non-virginity. It is possible to imagine most of those Muslim jurists who easily classified women according to the presence or absence of virginity squirm- ing uncomfortably at the challenge presented by the prepubescent non-virgin, who, though technically a child, is still understood as having the “real-world” experience gained from the exit from her “father’s house.” She is, as Abū Yaʿlā explained, “free.”28 Only the opinion attributed to al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī has remained consistently uncluttered throughout jurisprudential history: “A father may compel any of his daughters to marry, old or young.”29 But this, we are told, is “against the consensus.”3 So she specifically notes that ALL Jursiprudence holds "A ather may compel any of his daughters to marry, old or young." So I m not dishonest. The Egyptian Dar Al IIfta has a fatwa on minor marriage that also says that the consensus is that Q65:4 makes it permissible to both consummate and contract marriage prior to puberty. Masjeed Baderin (Professor in London) in his blog on Islamic Law also acknowledges that the majority opinion is that minor marriage is permissible. So not dishonest, but truthful.
@@oay335 Surah 65:4 Sahih International » And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease. « So here we read about divorce. As a side issue, of course Jesus forbade divorce, except for adultery, so we know Mohammed is contradicting what Jesus taught. But that is not the issue here. The first part speaks about older women who have stopped menstruating. The next part >> and [also for] those who have not menstruated. …
@@oay335 And we read that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and then had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. That makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. And of course Muslims claim that Mohammed is the best example to follow.
@@John-critic Classical scholars interpreted the verse to apply to a marriage to a child that has been contracted but not consummated. Such arranged marriages to young people were ordinary in the pre-modern world, so it is expected that jurists would have developed rules for them. Ibn Battal writes: أجمع العلماء على أنه يجوز للآباء تزويج الصغار من بناتهم وإن كن فى المهد إلا أنه لا يجوز لأزواجهن البناء بهن إلا إذا صلحن للوطء The scholars agreed that it is permissible for fathers to marry off their young daughters even if they are in the cradle, except it is not permissible for their husbands to consummate the marriage with them until they are prepared to safely have intercourse. Source: Sharḥ Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 7/172 That scholars allowed contracting a marriage to child did not mean they allowed sex with children. Physical maturity and safety were the prerequisites for lawful intercourse. Muslim scholars discouraged fathers and guardians from contracting child marriages unless it served a clear interest to all involved. It was an exception, not the rule. Al-Nawawi writes: وَاعْلَمْ أَنَّ الشَّافِعِيَّ وَأَصْحَابَهُ قَالُوا وَيُسْتَحَبُّ أنْ لَا يُزَوِّجَ الْأَبُ وَالْجَدُّ الْبِكْرَ حَتَّى تَبْلُغَ وَيَسْتَأْذِنُهَا لِئَلَّا يُوقِعَهَا فِي أَسْرِ الزَّوْجِ وَهِيَ كَارِهَةٌ Know that Al-Shafi’i and his companions encouraged a father or grandfather not to marry off a virgin girl until she reaches maturity and he obtains her consent, that she may not be trapped with a husband she dislikes. Source: Sharḥ al-Nawawī ‘alá Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1422 Child marriages were not recommended by classical scholars even though the social customs of the time did not consider them unusual. They understood that one of the most essential purposes of marriage mentioned in the Quran is to engender love and tranquility between spouses, which cannot be obtained by coercion, force, or harm. Some classical scholars dissented from this apparent consensus and did not allow child marriages in any circumstance. Ibn Shubrumah said: لَا يَجُوزُ إنْكَاحُ الْأَبِ ابْنَتَهُ الصَّغِيرَةَ إلَّا حَتَّى تَبْلُغَ وَتَأْذَنَ It is not permissible for a father to marry off his young daughter unless she has reached puberty and given her permission. Source: al-Muḥallá bil-Āthār 9/38 Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen commented on this statement, writing: وهذا القول هو الصواب أن الأب لا يزوج بنته حتى تبلغ وإذا بلغت فلا يزوجها حتى ترضى This is the correct opinion, that a father may not marry off his daughter until she has reached puberty, and after puberty he may not marry her off until she has given her consent. Source: al-Sharḥ al-Mumti’ ‘alá Zād al-Mustaqni’ 12/58
Corporate work is also technically work when you look at how severely limited your freedom, time is during and now (due to social media & technology being a panoptic) beyond the work place.
Good conversation for consideration should the Muslim ummah be in these complicated situations where these matters need to be dealt with at a time and place that's applicable and or practicable according to the current times and situations with contemporary considerations
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
@@purplerain2205 wrong. The change made by men has not been ordained by the creator. It is akin to homosexual priests in the church, a change but far removed from God.
@@purplerain2205 Islamic law was always adapted by the islamic rulers depending on hoe much power they had and how much they needed non-muslims to run the country.
Paul, it is recorded in the Quran and the Hadith that a rape victim be allowed to present 4 witnesses, in order to accuse a perso. This shows the wildness of pre Islamic Arabia. You should focus on the change Islam brought to the land, to produce the most moral social code that all religious sects appreciate and gives the reason why they convert (mostly women).
Witnesses required if accusing a man or a woman of adultery or pre marital sex . Witnesses must witness the actual act otherwise the judge cannot carry out the punishment. Spying on people not allowed. The witness males must be good truthful practicing muslims not just anybody. This was to prevent people making slanders willy nilly
That’s not for rape the more I see people use misinformation to refute Islam the more am convinced thats this the only way to refute it therefore it is the truth thank you for this commend الحمدلله☝️
muslims didnt care. islam went public 9/11. its funny, were people really proud to be muslim before that? because nobody knew anything really before that. seems as if muslims were trying to hide there faith to me.
From earliest Islam Q65:4 was interpreted as applying to slave-girls too. So consent was not important. Ibn Rushd (1126-1198) aka averroes - Distinguished Jurist’s Primer “About the slave-woman who has despaired of menstruation, or one who is a minor, Malik and most of the jurists of Medina said that her idda is three months.” 100% confirms Ibn Rushd reads Q65:4 as referring to minors and minor slave-girls. Ibn Qudama (1147-1223) - Al-Umdah “4. Those who are beyond the age of menstruation, and those who have never menstruated. Their ‘idda is three months. In the case of the slave woman, it is two months.”
Book 15, Number 4094: Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
@@classicalmuslim Cows, Dogs and Pets also have rights.......but inequal rights to us. Where was a slave gonna get justice? Some may have sought legal help. But most were well aware that their bossses could sell them tobad owners, could punish them. etc.
What is the difference between forced intercourse and grape? Are these questions not already answered in the Quran where Allah says to seek out wives from among the Believing women (both free and slave) and to avoid NonBelievers even though they may entice you? The problem with all this is believing that a Muslim male can have sexual relations with a female NonBeliever against her will and without marriage.
Why not just free her? Free them and marry them, is coercion, not consensual . Fat chance of a woman going to a male judge and getting an equal hearing. Remember that a womans testimony is half of a mans and also, she must obey her husband
Main thing here is "Consent". The female slaves were sold in the market like s*x toys against their will. A girl friend is more like a zania, not a slave or concubine.
@@samytouabi4087 It's Halal but it's not a commendement. Disgusting ? Don't you see every pre islamic acts and behaviours in modern days? Or just blind emotional affected by Ism's?
One (who believes in Allaah’s creation / evolution in His Qur’aan) can only free slave but never take a slave! Aḥaadiiṯ (plural of Ḥadiiṯ) are men's gibberish and troubled talks written down, and these troubled writings have absolutely no connections to Rasuulu-LLaahi and Nabii’u-LLaahi Muḥammad ﷺ and his companions! And that goes for the so-called men made šariiᶜat = Self-Enmity (and certainly not Šariiᶜat of the Qur’aan = Self-Understanding / Self-Learning for / towards Allaah’s Path = Allaah’s creation / evolution, = duality of the physical creation = Aadam in Earth Al-Jannat as opposed to plurality of the Earth in "Al-Ḥayaatu" Ad-Dunyaa = the Lower / the Nearer "Life", also known as this World or this Universe, either Allaah’s Path towards His Salaam = Intactness / Peacefulness reward that's Al-Jannat or Incompleteness of this lower of in-betweens death-life / Aš-Šayṭaan’s path)! One can only free slave but never take a slave, be it male or female whatsoever!
Please shut up In Islamic ruling you're allowed to get slaves through war and that war is right If you're the aggressor than your loot is HARAM, the people hurt are MAJOR SINS And the hadiths are essential and Allah's blessing on us to understand and practice the Quran
I feel like this is making palatable the deen to our modern tastes. I dont wanna develop further as these things can shake people who have weaker faith, but if we really believe Islam is true, no part of it should tighten our chests.
Brother, It's different times! Pre islamic was a mess and Rassul Allah had to deal with everything. Modern and old days is not the same. Nor the modern days are better. It's the same thing in different ways. We are in Jahiliya times, don't get fooled! open your eyes and watch the reality and don't get deceived by ism's Concubinage has always been the norm since the beginning of Humanity on earth. Until, liberals fake and corrupted liberty showed up. They preach tolerance and pratice intolerance. Don't get fooled my brother! Eid Mubarak ! sahih muslim 1657a:" He who slaps his "Abd" or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free".)
@@SDSen of course saying that there was no discussion among the fuqaha for centuries so no way it would allow no consent sex. This is quite a weak trail of thought and I believe tries to bring Islam up to modern taste. Slaves do not have the right to consent pretty sure. Yes they are clothed, fed and taken care of appropriately, but there is no such thing in that contract as rape; same thing as there is no rape in marriage..
None of these points while interesting actually prove consent to be islamic under that which your right hands possess. However good care is enjoined and the last point also adds to that. I don't like mr parrots conclusions as they appeal to modern liberalist ideals and lack islamic proof but at least he is honest in this particular clip admitting that it was never in classical scholarship for over a thousand years
@ovictus4401 But if one of you lacks the means to marry free believing women, then of those whom you rightfully possess from among your believing maidens. And Allah knows better of your faith. You are of one another, so marry them with the permission of their familiesand bring them their rewards in accordance with what is fair, in wedlock, not in fornication nor as mistresses. Then when they are married, if they commit an obscenity, then their punishment is half that of free women. That is for those of you who want to avoid distress(by falling in sin). But to be patient is better for you. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Bestowing of mercy. Allah wants to make things evident to youand to guide you by the rules(He set) for those before you and to grant you repentance and accept it from you. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise. { وَمَن لَّمۡ یَسۡتَطِعۡ مِنكُمۡ طَوۡلًا أَن یَنكِحَ ٱلۡمُحۡصَنَـٰتِ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنَـٰتِ فَمِن مَّا مَلَكَتۡ أَیۡمَـٰنُكُم مِّن فَتَیَـٰتِكُمُ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنَـٰتِۚ وَٱللَّهُ أَعۡلَمُ بِإِیمَـٰنِكُمۚ بَعۡضُكُم مِّنۢ بَعۡضࣲۚ فَٱنكِحُوهُنَّ بِإِذۡنِ أَهۡلِهِنَّ وَءَاتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ بِٱلۡمَعۡرُوفِ مُحۡصَنَـٰتٍ غَیۡرَ مُسَـٰفِحَـٰتࣲ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَ ٰتِ أَخۡدَانࣲۚ فَإِذَاۤ أُحۡصِنَّ فَإِنۡ أَتَیۡنَ بِفَـٰحِشَةࣲ فَعَلَیۡهِنَّ نِصۡفُ مَا عَلَى ٱلۡمُحۡصَنَـٰتِ مِنَ ٱلۡعَذَابِۚ ذَ ٰلِكَ لِمَنۡ خَشِیَ ٱلۡعَنَتَ مِنكُمۡۚ وَأَن تَصۡبِرُوا۟ خَیۡرࣱ لَّكُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورࣱ رَّحِیمࣱ (25) یُرِیدُ ٱللَّهُ لِیُبَیِّنَ لَكُمۡ وَیَهۡدِیَكُمۡ سُنَنَ ٱلَّذِینَ مِن قَبۡلِكُمۡ وَیَتُوبَ عَلَیۡكُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِیمٌ حَكِیمࣱ (26) } [Surah An-Nisāʾ: 25-26]
The apostle Paul added to the revelation that came to Isa (AS). "Brother" Paul here believes in the ADDED texts (hadith) to the revelation that came to Muhammad (SAW). I guess he's following his namesake's "guidance".
I believe the guest got it backwards: The reason why nobody mentioned consent as a condition for having intercourse with the slave girls was that they were not in a legal position which make their agreement or disagreement matter, enslavement meant their becoming personal property of their owners, thus they were free to enjoy them as much as one is free to enjoy his property. In other words Jurists were not negligent nor did they base their theorisation on the norms of their times.
" thus they were free to enjoy them as much as one is free to enjoy his property"- No, slaves had rights. Less rights than a free person, but still had rights. Kinda like how prisoners have some rights, but cannot vote for example in USA.
Dont agree with you . Slaves were not considered property in Islam . Nobody could force a slave to change his or her religion , neither could slaves be tortured or abused . Ancient jurists did not mention it because ownership was like marriage , so no consent was needed , but they did not advocate harming the concubine . Neither do we see this type of advocacy in type of stories / fictions we read . Marzina was a slave woman in Ali baba and forty thieves. She was clearly well treated . Later she was freed and married to the owner's son . There are numerous stories like that while captors who forcefully hold women against their wills are looked down upon as barbarians
@@islamadam8502 sahih muslim 1657a: "He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free". So you're not allowed to strike a slave, but you're allowed to rape?
Gievn whats happening to muslim ummah today, i believe an appropriate topic for your vlog should've been a fatwa encouraging families to adopt muslim children from Palestine and encouraging financially able men to take up a subsequent wife from syria or palestine to provide them with much needed shelter preventing muslim women entering prostitution. No one talks about that. Here we are discussing lesser relevant topic that doesnt directly affect 99.9% of the viewership.
Most people who have been killed In Palestine are women and children, I'm sure many Palestinians' don't want to be shipped abroad to be the third wife of a foreigner. They want to stay on their land, with their people.
only the war of prisoners used as a slave. and we have a whole criteria how to treat them to behave with them. not a single religion or ideology have this.
Geneva convention has laws for war. In fact, unlike Islam, war-time rape has been declared a war crime by the UN. There is no doubt the most countries do not follow these rules. But Muslims never followed Islamic rules of war either. Moreover, Islamic rules of war never saved female POVs from rape. This dude is glorifying an evil practice perpetuated by Islam and Muslims.
I have zero trust is hadeeths . Some hadeeths even say only Quaresh can be Caliphs . This is of course racist and goes against Quran and other hadeeths
Throwing all hadith under the bus is illogical. Every hadith must be dealt with on a case by case basis. That hadith on Quraysh is often misunderstood. You can't just get the picture with one hadith. Ibn Khaldun understood it in the context of this hadith (Sunan Abi Dawud 4647) "The caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; then Allah will give the Kingdom to whom he wishes; or his kingdom to whom he wishes." Which means the Quraysh would only last for the Rashidun Caliphate, which in fact happened.
Would recommend you take a class on Hadith. I would recommend HAD 101 at taqwaseminary - marifa program. Here are a few questions that this specific course answers: Why do we need ḥadīth when we have the Quran? How reliable are the works of ḥadīth? What’s so special about the Six Books of ḥadīth & their authors? I hope this helps, I have friends that used to not follow Hadith also, and I myself was skeptical, but subhanAllah we have a rich and strong history in Islam. We are just ignorant and should seek the knowledge to clear any doubts we have. Salaam wish you the best!
wish I could provide you a link to the course, but YT will hide my comment if I have a link in it. For the course, can search on google "hadith 101 taqwa seminary", should be the first link
The reliability of a hadith was established just like how a Qur'an verse was done, which is the transmission of the text authentically. The meaning and understanding of that text has nothing to do with its reliability. The hadith that talks about only the Quraysh as the Caliphs, the scholars have explained it already. It was a political recommendation by the Prophet and not a religious obligation, because the arab tribes naturally revered and obeyed a Qurayshi leader which helps the Islamic leadership in control and functioning with very little chance of rebellion. Likewise, the Turks were recommended by the scholars in the later era because of the world naturally submitting to them on the European side. But if there comes a more competent leader from another tribe or race, and the military generals give him the pledge of allegiance, then the muslims must submit to his rule. The recommendation is not absolute.
No, they do have the power. In the institution of islamic caliphate, especially the early days the gradual change that had been introduced is to change the preception of slave from a mere object, to ordinary servants or workers. Which has certains basic rights including the right of their own body. They would be bound to a contract with their master and should the master infringed their right according to islamic sharia (rule) the master could be forced to free the slave. This does not add that the act of freeing slave is also seen as one of the ways of retribution and pardoning of some of capital sin to God. Like murder, theft, non-marital person adultery and so on. Islam strives to slowly and gradually eradicate slavery which had been seen as the norm for millenia human history, just like how it slowlu gradually eradicates the habbits of drinking alcohol and adultery through several stages, that would make people deemed those acitvities (slavery, alcoholism, addiction, adultery) as utterly shameful
@@Heavenlyrules irradiation through conquering nations by the sword? plus why are muslims better humans for you then what muslims we see today? why were all the perfect muslims in the beginning? as an oriental male how can you falsify islamic slavery? your countries were some of the last to be enslaved by islam.
Book 15, Number 4094: Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
You all on here are Christian’s? Your bible endorses the beating of a slave to near death, this encourged the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade ever heard of that, slavery of human beings on a on industrial level. In Islam it actually discourages slavery.
@@thetriumphsprint really? you think this is a scholarly opinion because the quran says what your right hand possesses instead of the word r***? you can really see USA islam on this one, muslim preachers admit it where i live because it was part of a different time. just goes to show that in some places its more illegal to say it was a commandment then others.
@@LIVEREALFOOLED I asked for your scholarly opinion. I made no mention of Justin. Your comment was simply accusatory. Why Africa and what did it have to do with the talk Justin have? Our scholars historically discussed these issues at length and the majority opinion is that sexual relations cannot be forced in a servant, concubine, prisoner of war. In those older days, the women used to accompany their men into battle. After the battle there were often isolated women whose husbands had died. The Muslims were required to care for them. They became servants. They had the right to be fed, clothed and cared for like other family members. If they consented then sex was permitted. Force was not allowed. Compare this to other people. The Vikings were famous for r*ping and pillaging. The Mongols, after defeating a people, generally as mass killing, would slaughter the living children. They were an army and slaughter was considered a mercy rather than death by starvation. The crusaders r*ped and committed mayhem on their way to Palestine, often against other Christians. Frankly, the west fails in most moral arguments.
@@punkysoso r***** female captives in islam. 4.24 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs (And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives; trust some white people to lie about this
We should treat Hadits with certain level of skepticism because these hadiths are not a solid biography of the prophet. These are some random references of the prophet's sayings described by countless men, and then compiled by many later stage scholars with their different angles of view and perspectives. Hadith collections are much similar to the bible, which were documented at a later period comparing to Quran. So their authenticity and trustworthiness can always be questioned. They cannot be used as a solid reference for rulings. Rulings can be given only based on justified reasoning of present circumstances under the principle of Quranic instructions. And rulings can be changed time to time based on situations.
Said like someone who knows nothing about hadiths at all... honestly keep your mouth shut if you don't know what you're talking about, before that same tongue pulls you headlong into Jahannam.
You are a ignorant Kafir. There are enough videos and books speaking about Hadith science, you should watch or read, before you spread your misinformation. May Allah guide us.
Heretic. don't talk about Our deen you are a jahil. Hadith collection is similar to bible? Quran & hadith reached us through Isnad ya Jahil Have your read Ilm lhadith? Jar7 wa ta'adil? retarded Islam won't be reformed trust me. You are wasting your time "Batini" Secular liberals, rejectors of Sunnah and all new ideologies to the garbage of history. See you there
@@AB-et6nj ? Who are you ? and why would someone put billions of evidences and science of Golden chaine and all hadith science in a comment section? He just goes learn the basics of his deen before open up his mouth. Age of ignorance and corruption.
There's no such thing as consent in Islam. A wife's consent was not needed for sexual relations, because the nikah contract itself was technically a sale of her vulva to the husband. Which is to say that the husband paid the mahr in order to transfer the wife's property (her vagina) to himself as his own property. Marital rape was therefore an oxymoron. Logically, then, if a female slave is per se property in her entirety, then obviously there was no consent needed to make use of her. Unless if she is someone else's property, which is what Parrott has mentioned here. Consent never factored into the juridical discussions. Jurisprudence is however different from the reality, and there is a growing field of research in this area. Anyone with university acess can easily find ample research on concubinage and marriage in Islam. You do not need to learn Arabic and read the hadith yourself; you will be out of your depth anyway. Plenty of other scholars have already done the hard work for you.
A believer must be beautiful in nature and behaviour...Islam teaches goodness...what people did or do in such matters, Allah will definitely hold them accountable...
So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived. So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief. Remember our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible promises every person that if they accept Jesus as their saviour and follow what Jesus commanded until they die, they will be with GOD in heaven. As Mohammed claimed to be the final prophet, surely he promised the same for people who follow Mohammed? If not where does it leave you my friend?
اللهم عليك باسراءيل و نتنياهو و الصهيون هذا دعاء محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم لما ظلمه قريش 😢المرة الوحيدة التي دعا على احد، اهوا و صلوا و رددوا ❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
It’s a well known concept with regard to Islamic jurisprudence that Everything is halal (permissible) unless explicitly forbidden. There are absolutely no jurisprudential texts that require consent from a slave to have intercourse with her master, therefore consent is not needed. In fact, the concept of consent is completely absent from Islamic jurisprudence with regards to a man and his wife, or a man and his slave. Which means that it is halal for a man to rape his wife or slave, that is his right. 🤮 If you disagree with me, bring me a legitimate Islamic text that outlaws this. BONUS: Angels will curse a wife if she refuses to sleep with her husband (Sahih Muslim 1436d). This is sexual coercion, and a husband may beat his wife if she refuses to give herself to her (as it is a form of disobedience), read the Tafsir for surah 4:34
its one thing people converting to this faith but to perpetrate blasphemy in the name of allah to remove guilt is plain sad isnt it? do you think these men lack attention or something? what is it they enjoy so much about the faith they need to rewrite for the middle east? western islam.
Your initila premise is false. Am I allowed to stab someone with a pen? Obviously that's not explicitly prohibited, but it's also obviously not halal. So there goes your argument lol
“And let those who do not have the means to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His bounty. And if any of those ˹bondspeople˺ in your possession desires a contract ˹to buy their own freedom˺, make it possible for them, if you find goodness in them. And give them some of Allah’s wealth which He has granted you. Do not force your ˹slave˺ girls into prostitution for your own worldly gains while they wish to remain chaste. And if someone coerces them, then after such a coercion Allah is certainly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful ˹to them˺.”(Surah An-Nur 33) “If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺! And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? It is to free a slave, or to give food in times of famine to an orphaned relative or to a poor person in distress, and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion. These are the people of the right.”(Surah Al-Balad 11-18)
@@AJ-pc9gu You ARE allowed to stab your WIFE with a pen (provided you do not stab her in the face and you do not break any bones). Also, it’s not my initial premise, it’s a premise from islamic jurisprudence itself, and all jurisprudence in general.
Ma malekat aymanakum is not necessarily for female slaves. It could be free or rich women as well. Quran 24:33 makes it clear that ma malelat aymnakum could also be men.
People like you two should not talk about things you do not know about. This is a scourge today that anyone can assume to have knowledge and influence people.
Br Paul is a blessing on the ummah of Muhammad.
Mr.PAUL i Love You u r doing very well may ALLAH accept you all effort for ISLAM
As far as I know you were not allowed to even hit a slave, otherwise they had to be freed (sahih muslim 1657a:" He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free".) . Thus I cannot imagine how rape would be allowed.
But you can beat your wife!
Sure.
Nice try, but Sahih Muslim 1657b clarifies that “He who beats a slave without cognizable offence of his or slaps him (without any serious fault), then expiation for it is that he should set him free.”, which means that if the master of judge deem the beating to be justifiable, then it is permitted
The choice is not left to the raqeeq's (slave's) guardian but to a judge. This is in the legal manuals.
@@samytouabi4087 Firstly that's not how hadiths work, 'a' = sahih and 'b' = hasan, making 'a' more reliable. Secondly, you're a bitter individual who wants to lead people away from Islam. You have a choice to either let Islam live in your head rent-free and stay bitter, or you can move on with your life and find something more fulfilling.
Thanks for this. There are some dubious opinions I have heard grown up saying that consent wasn't needed, but it never made sense to me since such a thing directly goes against the spirit of the Deen.
@@BelievingPhilospher suuuure, Book 15, Number 4094:
Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
@@BelievingPhilospher Can you provide daleel that Imam Shafi’i, Ahmad, and Maliki prescribed punishment for the “rape” of a concubine/wife?
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
I thought sura 4 ayat 25 covered cases in which a muslim is allowed to marry believing slaves if the slave's relatives agree and other conditions. Or am i mistaken?
@@aladdin8623 Actually surah 4:24 allows a Muslim man to have sex with their slaves. Surah 4:25 allows a Muslim man to marry his slaves.
Salaam Paul. Loving these short clips. When are we gonna get a new podcast?
wa alaikum assalam, next podcast tomorrow (Monday) inshaAllah
Eid Mubarak to Muslims and potential Muslims.
In the Old Testament a father could sell his daughter as a concubine. She thus would become a slave. It was possible for a master (in fact it was encouraged) to beat a slave if they did not carry out their masters word. Thus non consensual sex was a norm in the Old Testament
John 8:44-45 kjv
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
So non consensual sex was a norm in the old testament does that justify it for Islam like this is nothing apart from whataboutism like it was wrong in the old testament so same standards should apply like two wrongs does not make a right have you heard that phrase before
@@jamesmanolakis2420 so counter argument is just calling him a liar with no solid counter argument? This is what we called, preacher mode...
And that was the green light they needed for the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade😢
@@jamesmanolakis2420 You have not shown the lie bit. Reason cause I spoke the truth
Hello Paul.
Thanks very much for excellent channel and high quality contents you offer us. However, for those of us who prefer listening to podcasts rather than watching UA-cam videos (esp. during long travel), we suffer from the delay in uploading the new episodes on the podcast. We have to wait for a few weeks before we are able to listen to them. I wonder about the possibility of making the podcasts available quicker agter the UA-cam video uploaded.
Thank you. I will see what I can do.
Agree that the relationship with a female lady known as "slave" although the proper word used in Quran and Hadith is: "Amah", is somehow parallel to marriage. These are 2 systems very much similar in many ways the speaker mentioned some.
One point worth to mention is that Islam prohibited abusing those servants. Imposing your self on her is an abuse. If there will be a relationship between both, it should be by her consent. And actually this is a way towards her freedom.
Adultery by consent😂😂
@@arnoldjackson-q2j how's it adultery when it's both allowed and publicly acknowledged, you know, like a marriage is 😂😂😂
Not very bright are you.
@@arnoldjackson-q2j It's not adultery, adultery is sinful in Islam.
@@f1aziz Marrying another woman or having sexual relationship with other woman, who is not your wife is Adultery. So, having sex with a slave woman is adultery.
@f1aziz
It's adultery = crossing Allaah’s set boundaries! And that's self-harming even if doesn't appear to oneself!
You would never ever see a right given in the Qur’aan to take someone as slave but only to free!
In Deuteronomy 21:11--14, a similar case of concubinage is discussed where a Jewish man can have intimacy with their concubines (war captives) and there is no categorical provision about whether or not such necessarily have to be consensual.
it was abrogated.
@@LIVEREALFOOLED You christians that pester muslims throw your own bible under the bus 🤣, then accuse Muslims of taqiyya. Every accusation is a confession. Now let's unpack your misinformation. The abrogation you speak of is it the same abrogation as when Jesus said to mimic those that are ungrateful to their slaves? Luke 17:9, "He does not thank the slave because he did the things which were commanded, does he? So you too, when you do all the things which are commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy slaves; we have done only that which we ought to have done. '” Or perhaps you mean same abrogation as when Jesus said in Mark 5:17-20 "“Do not suppose that I come to dismantle the Law or the Prophets. I do not come to dismantle but to fulfill. For truly I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not one iota or letter stroke will ever pass away from the Law until all is accomplished"
@@LIVEREALFOOLED Jesus said in Mark 5:17-20 "“Do not suppose that I come to dismantle the Law or the Prophets. I do not come to dismantle but to fulfill. For truly I say to you until heaven and earth pass away, not one iota or letter stroke will ever pass away from the Law until all is accomplished". Did the heaven and earth pass away?
@@AJ-pc9gu
this verse means to accomplish the prophets.
@@LIVEREALFOOLEDno, this verse means that jesus follows the torah. "Until heaven and earth pass away, not one stroke of the pen will disappear from the law." Keep the law like jesus said, pagan polytheist.
Eid mubarak brother Paul. Keep up the good work. May Allah bless you and your family in dunya and akhira
Thanks for covering this, it was an instant click, MashAllah.
The speaker speaks from a well-studied understanding of the topic. He made a good point about the judges making ruling on practical matters, which is a tough thing to grasp. Maybe, for clarification, this can be added - a slave is entitled to legal protection, he or she can make complaints to a judge. Also, the general idea is for a slave to have a clear pathway by a contract to independence, for example, to stay for this many years, or to make this much money and they become free. Freeing a slave is encouraged and forcing oneself onto another is inherently understood as a crime.
Hey Paul, real question. What is meant by Sura Nisa Verse 24: "And also forbidden to you are all married women (muhsanat) except those women whom your right hands have come to possess (as a result of war)." ?
It means that Muslim men can have sex with women captured in battle even if they are married which is rape and adultery.
Great video. All the past "Islamic" empires "glorified" by the Muslim ummah all practiced this concubine system a form of torture that most "Muslims" sanctified today. Which caused a great question in my mind about the validity of those "Muslim" empires. I started to study the history of fall of Mughul empire, Ottoman empire etc. And realized how unjust those societies were towards Women. The children born to those massive number of concubines of those "Muslim" emperors later prayed against their own " fathers" which I believed lead them to their own destruction. Basically Allah destroyed those empire by giving power to the disbelievers. I never believed that any "Muslim" empires were great after the demise of our four rightly guided khlif. All of them were oppressors. This video clarifying my beliefs into conviction. Alhamdulillah! Thank you brother Paul. For the video.
Concubine system isn't torture what are you talking about?? And your argument doesn't hold up there were concubines in the time of Rasulullah ﷺ as well as during the 4 rightly guided khulafa. So if the concubine system is the reason for the injustice of the muslim empires that came after, it all started as Rasulullah ﷺ was alive... Sorry but concubines are something Allah ﷻ allowed out of His Wisdom and none can do something about it.
@@hmzzrg5045 Please read the history. Those "Muslim" empires built separate buildings to keep these mistresses. They had different levels of status in the four walls of those castles. More like a cage. Their children couldn't go out nor they enjoyed any freedom. The children born from their unethical se*ual practices were numerous. They were ill treated and kept in the castle like prisoners . Where in Islam it says you can have thousands of women unjustly? Produce thousands of children only to treat them unjustly ? Prophet Muhammad s.a.w ever had hundreds and thousands of mistresses? But those ottomans, those Mughals had. Please don't try to validate something oppressive under the guise of Islam. Enough!
It is THE INJUSTICE that comes with that position.
No woman would choose to be a concubine.
No man would want his mother, sister or daughter to be a concubine.
The prophet dramatically changed the rights of women during his lifetime for the better.
It is on us in these times to keep the legacy and keep changing it for the better.
@@halimaakbar5530 Did Rasulullah ﷺ abolish concubines? Just yes or no please. And you'll have your answer as to the morality of it.
@@S678oi7xe for you concubines = injust. It doesn't matters if you have one or a thousand the reasoning is still the same. If it's allowed to have one it's allowed to have a thousand doesn't matter as long as they were obtained lawfully. Who are you to make haram what was made halal by Allah?
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Interesting conversation. I do think there is more nuance in the matter. There seems to be ikhtilaf based on what I’ve heard some say about the matter. Like a wife, a concubine/slave isn’t “allowed” to resist because it’s not their right to begin with. You do not abuse them-as that is THEIR right-but whether taking YOUR right can be considered “abuse” or not is likely a matter of dispute. After all, how could you have your right as a Muslim be negated by the whims of someone who’s essentially a prisoner of war due to fighting *against* Islam?
Having the right to not be harmed doesn’t mean they can take away your Islamic right based on an arbitrary whim. That would be inverting the master-slave dynamic where the master is at the mercy of the slave. I think the truth is more uncomfortable than some would like to admit. It isn’t barbaric like Western chattel slavery, but it’s still a LITTLE more uncomfortable than most would like to think about in modern times, thanks to societal programming and presentism.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Muslims punish captive women by raping them for "fighting against Islam" when it is mostly Muslims who started the war to conquer foreign land and "sPrEaD IsLaM". Islamic scholars feel the urge to glorify everything related to Islam when Islam is not perfect at all.
Mental harm is still harm
@@toniko8113 And your personal, subjective dislikes are not an objective measure of harm.
@@JamesBond-wv9xz the issue is actually quite simple. Would you like someone to do that to you. If not then then it is wrong.
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As Salamu alaykum,
Please what is the name of your guest for today?
Justin Parrot
So moved by this. Thank you, Paul.
I see no problem in his thumbnails or anything else.Love Paul.
Asalam alaykum. I've always loved to see your videos about Islam and I hope that you continue to do them. But I think you should look into the rulings on drawings of animate beings. There are very heavy repercussions for this, dear brother. I think there are about 5 or 6 ahadith that talk about it, and maybe some other sources. Please look into it for the sake of Allah
Eid mubarak Paul. ❤
May you please provide the references for the instances mentioned by Justin
Mr.justin u r expalining very well
Brother Paul May Allah bless you it’s neither permissible to show a women’s face especially with make up or to draw living creatures (including drawing them with AI) please don’t forget you’re an influencer and a role model.
You seem to have an issue with a picture than slavery and concubines 😔, use your little brain 🧠
Eid Mubarak brother Paul and flowers
The thumbnail should be changed...
yep
Jazak Allah khair but brother your name would make christians angry and go farther away from Islam.
can you please send me the source for اكراه على الوطء
Brother Paul
Please make video for MUSLIM Youngsters who are struggling in this Dunya.........
May ALLAH easen your burdens brother
Have patience, ALLAH is always near to his servants
Thank you for this interesting talk. Is one of the take-aways from this that Islam condones slavery? Many of the citations seem to describe ways to make slavery acceptable. Also, the remedy for rape is divorce? No sanction or penalty on the rapist?
Seems unfair.
Very educational
Subhaan Allah
Assalamualaikum And Eid Mubarak yall ❤
Assalamualaikum Nice Conversation
❤Loved It ❤
A couple of years ago another guest of Islamic jurisprudence said that concubines are permissible. From this episode, I gather that this guest also thinks so, but perhaps relations with slaves is prohibited. What is the Arabic word for concubines?
There is no word for ‘concubinage’. The Qur’aan condemns the practice as what it is : ‘whoredom’. All these scholars who claim the Qur’aan allows sex with slave girls are up their own backsides. He Paul brings these guests on, because they parrot the views of various scholars from the salafi and Hanbali school. If you read the text of the Qur’aan , the Qur’aan only allows sex in the married state. It specifically talks about this in relation to slave girls in sura 4.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
The Arabic word for it is: Al mahzia (المحظية)
Surah 33:50 states that sex with women captured in battle is allowed. These women are referred to as those your right hand possess which means slave. So abusing women as sex slaves is perfectly fine in islam according to Mohammed and his Allah.
@@John-critic Not true. Any references to sex with slave girls can only be in their context of marriage. Sura 4: 25 is explicit about this. The only difference with a free woman, is that a free woman must receive a dowry while the slave girl obtains her freedom. Even if we take your interpretation, slave girls were treated a million times better than what they had to endure under Christians or secularists did. In Islam, slaves could rise to high positions of authority. Ottoman sultan Suleyman married his slave, his grad vizier was a slave.
May Allah Bless and Reward Both of you in this Life and in the Hereafter.
Thanks!
Many thanks!
Super beneficial ❤ ty
What about porcupines?
quill pigs?
they are nice but prickly, my friend. you don't want them near you.
@@herticate8579 Same as concubines 😂😂
What is good and what is bad is only defined by Allah and is only for Allah to establish. So if Allah says a man can have concubines, it means the act of having concubines is good. Allah commanded Ibraheem to sacrifice his son, So did Ibraheem say that is a bad thing to do? Rather he submitted to Allah's will without having ill thoughts or setting up debates. Because what Allah permits is good and what Allah forbids is bad.
Now since we have established what is good and what is bad, then who is anyone else to claim anything about these matters? We hear and we obey that is what makes us Muslim. Not debating and challenging Allah's commands or having ill thoughts about them.
Maşallah thank you for the great clarification. İmam Tom Facchine also put it in a great way mentioning that integration of other races in society always happened through marriage or sexual relations. And so making the concubines halal for sex was a method of making them a part of the household and a part of society. The initial colonization of India was also not a violent racist and white supremacist torment it had actually happened by marriages between Indian women and English men and a lot of mixed progeny from them who were born in India and spoke the native languages and followed the customs.
To be honest, none of that sounds appealing and sounds more like speculation. I say this as a Muslim.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
Do you have any idea how many of those Indian women were raped? I can’t believe people are trying to white wash colonialism already. Just to justify raping slaves. Too soon, too soon. Mixed marriages were not remotely the reason the East India company was able to subjugate the states in India. Those mixed kids were hugely discriminated against (bc they were the product of rape). Indian fathers didn’t just happily start giving their daughters to white racist colonizers. If you are able to fall for something so easily, imagine the other ways such “imams” can mislead you.
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Assalamwalykum. I would like to draw attention of admin. Please avoid explicit images especially women. Your videos are excellent and have a stable viewership. I believe there is no need to use AI generated images especially women. The purpose is to spread Islam and using these images are counter-productive. If needed, please use images of nature. Or, real photos (without any depiction of animate beings).
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Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
in bible Solomon had 400 wives and 300 concubines/sex slaves. that seems excessive
no 700 wifes and 300 concubines
@@MRKAMONA YIKES!! thats 3 romps in the sack per day to get back to top of the batting order
What do you expect from a jew?
@@Timmy-bb7ch be respectful when talking about solomon pbuh
السَّلاَمُ عَلَيْكُمْ وَرَحْمَةُ اللهِ وَبَرَكَاتُهُ
Assalamu’alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
Muwatta Malik chapter on Blood-Money i.e. financial compensation. Book 43, Hadith 15
" Malik said, "When a man intentionally goes to his wife and gouges out her eye or breaks her hand or cuts off her finger or such like, and does it intentionally, retaliation is inflicted on him. As for a man who strikes his wife with a rope or a whip and hits what he did not mean to hit or does what he did not intend to do, he pays blood-money for what he has struck according to this principle, and retaliation is not inflicted on him."
Yahya related to me from Malik that he had heard that Abu Bakr ibn Muhammd ibn Amr ibn Hazm took retaliation for the breaking of a leg."
If you accidentally gauge out your wife's eye with a whip or accidentally cut off a finger, there is no punishment.
It sounds to me like Justin is trying to give beautiful narratives about times that were harsh. He does that by omitting all evidence that disproves/contradicts his beautiful statements.
The punishment is payment of blood money. Western law also accounts for intentions when determining punishment. Hence distinction between manslaughter, 1st 2nd degree murder etc.
I’m sure you think you are knowledgeable, but your lack of intelligence and reasoning ability is embarrassingly obvious. Maybe ask chat gpt to write something for you next time?
Jazak Allah, Paul.
I enjoy the content but this page shows the distinct lack of any Muslims scholars from Africa or the diaspora. Mostly Asians and Whites.
This is despite the fact that the people who gave Da’wah in the UK in English were people like Dr Bilal Philips, Dr Abdul Hakim Quick, Imam Siraj Wahaj etc. Yes, not all of them academics, but many swathes of the Asian community did not give Dawah in English at all in the UK until around 10 years ago. Also the contribution of the Somali community cannot be downplayed yet nothing of that nature on this page despite their being many Muslim academics from these backgrounds.
Ajeeb
Hi Paul please interview Proff Al Massari. He’s the head of the Islamic renewal party / a new Madhab practically speaking after 40 years of research and hard work
C. Baugh “Minor Marriage in Early Islamic Law” p 10, footnote 45.
45 Almost invariably, as jurists consider the legal parameters of sex with prepubescents, (“at what point is the minor female able to tolerate the sexual act upon her”/matā tuṣliḥ lilwaṭʾ) the word used when describing sexual relations with a prepubescent female is waṭʾ. This is a word that I have chosen to translate as “to perform the sexual act upon her.” This translation, although unwieldy, seems to convey the lack of mutuality in the sexual act that this word suggests (unlike, for example, the word jimāʿ ). It is worth noting that the semantic range of the word includes “to tread/step on;” indeed this is given as the primary meaning of the word. See Ibn Manẓūr, Lisān al-‘Arab (Beirut: Dār Ṣādir, 1955), 2:195-197
Wat was not necessarily seen as something that needed to be punished. It was permissible.
Did you even bother reading the rest of that book? The whole thesis of that book is that there was no solid consensus on permissibility of sexual relations with minors… Blithely claiming “it was permissible “ while quoting a source whose thesis is that definitive claims cannot be made is either born out of ignorance, or sheer dishonesty
@@oay335 P 235
"As with Jewish law, however, the issue of what to do with the prepubescent
non-virgin challenged this classification scheme that identified marriage with
non-virginity. It is possible to imagine most of those Muslim jurists who easily
classified women according to the presence or absence of virginity squirm-
ing uncomfortably at the challenge presented by the prepubescent non-virgin,
who, though technically a child, is still understood as having the “real-world”
experience gained from the exit from her “father’s house.” She is, as Abū Yaʿlā
explained, “free.”28
Only the opinion attributed to al-Ḥasan al-Baṣrī has remained consistently
uncluttered throughout jurisprudential history: “A father may compel any of
his daughters to marry, old or young.”29
But this, we are told, is “against the consensus.”3
So she specifically notes that ALL Jursiprudence holds "A ather may compel any of his daughters to marry, old or young."
So I m not dishonest.
The Egyptian Dar Al IIfta has a fatwa on minor marriage that also says that the consensus is that Q65:4 makes it permissible to both consummate and contract marriage prior to puberty.
Masjeed Baderin (Professor in London) in his blog on Islamic Law also acknowledges that the majority opinion is that minor marriage is permissible.
So not dishonest, but truthful.
@@oay335 Surah 65:4 Sahih International » And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated. And for those who are pregnant, their term is until they give birth. And whoever fears Allah - He will make for him of his matter ease. «
So here we read about divorce. As a side issue, of course Jesus forbade divorce, except for adultery, so we know Mohammed is contradicting what Jesus taught. But that is not the issue here. The first part speaks about older women who have stopped menstruating. The next part >> and [also for] those who have not menstruated. …
@@oay335 And we read that Mohammed married a 6 year old child and then had sex with that child when it was just 9 years old. That makes Mohammed an evil child rapist and disgusting pervert. And of course Muslims claim that Mohammed is the best example to follow.
@@John-critic Classical scholars interpreted the verse to apply to a marriage to a child that has been contracted but not consummated. Such arranged marriages to young people were ordinary in the pre-modern world, so it is expected that jurists would have developed rules for them.
Ibn Battal writes:
أجمع العلماء على أنه يجوز للآباء تزويج الصغار من بناتهم وإن كن فى المهد إلا أنه لا يجوز لأزواجهن البناء بهن إلا إذا صلحن للوطء
The scholars agreed that it is permissible for fathers to marry off their young daughters even if they are in the cradle, except it is not permissible for their husbands to consummate the marriage with them until they are prepared to safely have intercourse.
Source: Sharḥ Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 7/172
That scholars allowed contracting a marriage to child did not mean they allowed sex with children. Physical maturity and safety were the prerequisites for lawful intercourse. Muslim scholars discouraged fathers and guardians from contracting child marriages unless it served a clear interest to all involved. It was an exception, not the rule.
Al-Nawawi writes:
وَاعْلَمْ أَنَّ الشَّافِعِيَّ وَأَصْحَابَهُ قَالُوا وَيُسْتَحَبُّ أنْ لَا يُزَوِّجَ الْأَبُ وَالْجَدُّ الْبِكْرَ حَتَّى تَبْلُغَ وَيَسْتَأْذِنُهَا لِئَلَّا يُوقِعَهَا فِي أَسْرِ الزَّوْجِ وَهِيَ كَارِهَةٌ
Know that Al-Shafi’i and his companions encouraged a father or grandfather not to marry off a virgin girl until she reaches maturity and he obtains her consent, that she may not be trapped with a husband she dislikes.
Source: Sharḥ al-Nawawī ‘alá Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1422
Child marriages were not recommended by classical scholars even though the social customs of the time did not consider them unusual. They understood that one of the most essential purposes of marriage mentioned in the Quran is to engender love and tranquility between spouses, which cannot be obtained by coercion, force, or harm.
Some classical scholars dissented from this apparent consensus and did not allow child marriages in any circumstance.
Ibn Shubrumah said:
لَا يَجُوزُ إنْكَاحُ الْأَبِ ابْنَتَهُ الصَّغِيرَةَ إلَّا حَتَّى تَبْلُغَ وَتَأْذَنَ
It is not permissible for a father to marry off his young daughter unless she has reached puberty and given her permission.
Source: al-Muḥallá bil-Āthār 9/38
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen commented on this statement, writing:
وهذا القول هو الصواب أن الأب لا يزوج بنته حتى تبلغ وإذا بلغت فلا يزوجها حتى ترضى
This is the correct opinion, that a father may not marry off his daughter until she has reached puberty, and after puberty he may not marry her off until she has given her consent.
Source: al-Sharḥ al-Mumti’ ‘alá Zād al-Mustaqni’ 12/58
Today's continued slavry: PRISON system, Chilyd 'protective' ' services' system, monetry system. FOR no crime or manufactuerd crimes.
Corporate work is also technically work when you look at how severely limited your freedom, time is during and now (due to social media & technology being a panoptic) beyond the work place.
Classical Jurists can be wrong . They are not prophets or receive wahi from God
It's tedious listening to some of these discourses because they don't separate issues and don't communicate clearly.
I wish I had a right hand possession
i wish u not to think about zina
@@Theguidancebook that’s not Zina, hit the books if you think it is
the ad at the end of this video ruined it all for me . I ask Allah to be the judge . My Allah be the judge
Who is this Justin ?
Good conversation for consideration should the Muslim ummah be in these complicated situations where these matters need to be dealt with at a time and place that's applicable and or practicable according to the current times and situations with contemporary considerations
The Quran and what is permissible is for all time. Islam is not to be changed according to the time, that’s what the Jews and Christian’s did.
Surah 33:50 - Saheeh International >> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who emigrated with you and a believing woman if she gives herself to the Prophet [and] if the Prophet wishes to marry her; [this is] only for you, excluding the [other] believers. We certainly know what We have made obligatory upon them concerning their wives and those their right hands possess, [but this is for you] in order that there will be upon you no discomfort [i.e., difficulty]. And ever is Allāh Forgiving and Merciful.> O Prophet, indeed We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation1 and those your right hand possesses from what Allāh has returned to you [of captives] …
You're misinformed shariah can and has changed with time in consideration with multiple factors circumstances...
@@purplerain2205 wrong. The change made by men has not been ordained by the creator. It is akin to homosexual priests in the church, a change but far removed from God.
@@purplerain2205 Islamic law was always adapted by the islamic rulers depending on hoe much power they had and how much they needed non-muslims to run the country.
Paul, it is recorded in the Quran and the Hadith that a rape victim be allowed to present 4 witnesses, in order to accuse a perso. This shows the wildness of pre Islamic Arabia. You should focus on the change Islam brought to the land, to produce the most moral social code that all religious sects appreciate and gives the reason why they convert (mostly women).
No such requirement for rape. 4 witnesses are required for adultery. Rape is non consensual and the victim is blameless according to the Quran
Witnesses required if accusing a man or a woman of adultery or pre marital sex . Witnesses must witness the actual act otherwise the judge cannot carry out the punishment. Spying on people not allowed. The witness males must be good truthful practicing muslims not just anybody. This was to prevent people making slanders willy nilly
That’s not for rape the more I see people use misinformation to refute Islam the more am convinced thats this the only way to refute it therefore it is the truth thank you for this commend الحمدلله☝️
@@lilyrosesoul0077 So how will a women prove rape when her testimony in court is only worth half of that of a man?
Makes sense. Much like the controversy over the age of Aisha (Ra). No one disputed til recently.
muslims didnt care. islam went public 9/11. its funny, were people really proud to be muslim before that? because nobody knew anything really before that. seems as if muslims were trying to hide there faith to me.
You both are right my dear brothers
These horrible opinions which were based on the cultural injust atmosphere at that time
Put in search „concubinage in Islam middle nation“
You won’t regret it!
Say that to the women of Autas
From earliest Islam Q65:4 was interpreted as applying to slave-girls too. So consent was not important.
Ibn Rushd (1126-1198) aka averroes - Distinguished Jurist’s Primer
“About the slave-woman who has despaired of menstruation, or one who is a minor, Malik and most of the jurists of Medina said that her idda is three months.”
100% confirms Ibn Rushd reads Q65:4 as referring to minors and minor slave-girls.
Ibn Qudama (1147-1223) - Al-Umdah
“4. Those who are beyond the age of menstruation, and those who have never menstruated. Their ‘idda is three months. In the case of the slave woman, it is two months.”
Indeed that does not look like consent was considered particularly important.
Book 15, Number 4094:
Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
@@RandomBananaSalad Nice words sounding, but no rights.
@@concerned_parent There were rights. A slave not given this standard of treatment could appeal to a judge for mistreatment.
@@classicalmuslim Cows, Dogs and Pets also have rights.......but inequal rights to us.
Where was a slave gonna get justice?
Some may have sought legal help. But most were well aware that their bossses could sell them tobad owners, could punish them. etc.
What is the difference between forced intercourse and grape? Are these questions not already answered in the Quran where Allah says to seek out wives from among the Believing women (both free and slave) and to avoid NonBelievers even though they may entice you?
The problem with all this is believing that a Muslim male can have sexual relations with a female NonBeliever against her will and without marriage.
What? Are you just creating Islamic rules out of thin air ?
No sexual relation out of wedlock is permitted !
@@Nipiniponipi Agreed. I think you meant the comment for someone else.
@@SI00000 really sorry
I misinterpreted your comment
@@Nipiniponipi No worries.
salam brother paul i advise you to not make AI depictions of living creatures and not to put women in your thumbnails. salam.
True
But ˹continue to˺ remind. For certainly reminders benefit the believers.
Qur'an 51:55 ♥️
Shut up
What's wrong in making AI images of living creatures?
Paul has made lot of AI images of Palestine in the past
@@surendirenparthasarathy9087 it’s not permissible to make depictions of living creatures. Look what scholars have to say.
Why not just free her? Free them and marry them, is coercion, not consensual .
Fat chance of a woman going to a male judge and getting an equal hearing. Remember that a womans testimony is half of a mans and also, she must obey her husband
You seem lost in the salafi rabbit-hole sir.
A girlfriend is a modern concubine.
A concubine is a willing sex-slave, a girl-friend can tell you to get lost.
Main thing here is "Consent". The female slaves were sold in the market like s*x toys against their will. A girl friend is more like a zania, not a slave or concubine.
Ma malekat aymanakum - what your OATHS POSSESSED...so a girlfriend fills that role.
So is a concubine halal or haram
its a decree from allah. so halal.
Halal and it’s disgusting
@@samytouabi4087your statement is kufr
@@samytouabi4087 It's Halal but it's not a commendement.
Disgusting ?
Don't you see every pre islamic acts and behaviours in modern days? Or just blind emotional affected by Ism's?
@@samytouabi4087 sahih muslim 1657a:" He who slaps his Abd or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free".)
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Enough said about this issue by Brother Shahid.
Brother you and I both know “hadith” is just gossip and hearsay.
No. Just you.
One (who believes in Allaah’s creation / evolution in His Qur’aan) can only free slave but never take a slave!
Aḥaadiiṯ (plural of Ḥadiiṯ) are men's gibberish and troubled talks written down, and these troubled writings have absolutely no connections to Rasuulu-LLaahi and Nabii’u-LLaahi Muḥammad ﷺ and his companions! And that goes for the so-called men made šariiᶜat = Self-Enmity (and certainly not Šariiᶜat of the Qur’aan = Self-Understanding / Self-Learning for / towards Allaah’s Path = Allaah’s creation / evolution, = duality of the physical creation = Aadam in Earth Al-Jannat as opposed to plurality of the Earth in "Al-Ḥayaatu" Ad-Dunyaa = the Lower / the Nearer "Life", also known as this World or this Universe, either Allaah’s Path towards His Salaam = Intactness / Peacefulness reward that's Al-Jannat or Incompleteness of this lower of in-betweens death-life / Aš-Šayṭaan’s path)!
One can only free slave but never take a slave, be it male or female whatsoever!
Please shut up
In Islamic ruling you're allowed to get slaves through war and that war is right
If you're the aggressor than your loot is HARAM, the people hurt are MAJOR SINS
And the hadiths are essential and Allah's blessing on us to understand and practice the Quran
I feel like this is making palatable the deen to our modern tastes. I dont wanna develop further as these things can shake people who have weaker faith, but if we really believe Islam is true, no part of it should tighten our chests.
Brother, It's different times! Pre islamic was a mess and Rassul Allah had to deal with everything. Modern and old days is not the same. Nor the modern days are better. It's the same thing in different ways. We are in Jahiliya times, don't get fooled! open your eyes and watch the reality and don't get deceived by ism's
Concubinage has always been the norm since the beginning of Humanity on earth. Until, liberals fake and corrupted liberty showed up. They preach tolerance and pratice intolerance. Don't get fooled my brother!
Eid Mubarak !
sahih muslim 1657a:" He who slaps his "Abd" or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free".)
Which part are you referring to
@@SDSen slavery, polygyny, age to marry, men-women hierarchy, etc.
@@hmzzrg5045 he didn't make anything palatable though
@@SDSen of course saying that there was no discussion among the fuqaha for centuries so no way it would allow no consent sex. This is quite a weak trail of thought and I believe tries to bring Islam up to modern taste. Slaves do not have the right to consent pretty sure. Yes they are clothed, fed and taken care of appropriately, but there is no such thing in that contract as rape; same thing as there is no rape in marriage..
None of these points while interesting actually prove consent to be islamic under that which your right hands possess. However good care is enjoined and the last point also adds to that. I don't like mr parrots conclusions as they appeal to modern liberalist ideals and lack islamic proof but at least he is honest in this particular clip admitting that it was never in classical scholarship for over a thousand years
Consent is explicitly mentioned in the Qur'an even for slaves. In fact, it's considered a marriage, except it doesn't count towards the limit of 4.
@@SabeerAbdulla No it is not, prove it if that is the case then
@ovictus4401 But if one of you lacks the means to marry free believing women, then of those whom you rightfully possess from among your believing maidens. And Allah knows better of your faith. You are of one another, so marry them with the permission of their familiesand bring them their rewards in accordance with what is fair, in wedlock, not in fornication nor as mistresses. Then when they are married, if they commit an obscenity, then their punishment is half that of free women. That is for those of you who want to avoid distress(by falling in sin). But to be patient is better for you. And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Bestowing of mercy.
Allah wants to make things evident to youand to guide you by the rules(He set) for those before you and to grant you repentance and accept it from you. And Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
{ وَمَن لَّمۡ یَسۡتَطِعۡ مِنكُمۡ طَوۡلًا أَن یَنكِحَ ٱلۡمُحۡصَنَـٰتِ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنَـٰتِ فَمِن مَّا مَلَكَتۡ أَیۡمَـٰنُكُم مِّن فَتَیَـٰتِكُمُ ٱلۡمُؤۡمِنَـٰتِۚ وَٱللَّهُ أَعۡلَمُ بِإِیمَـٰنِكُمۚ بَعۡضُكُم مِّنۢ بَعۡضࣲۚ فَٱنكِحُوهُنَّ بِإِذۡنِ أَهۡلِهِنَّ وَءَاتُوهُنَّ أُجُورَهُنَّ بِٱلۡمَعۡرُوفِ مُحۡصَنَـٰتٍ غَیۡرَ مُسَـٰفِحَـٰتࣲ وَلَا مُتَّخِذَ ٰتِ أَخۡدَانࣲۚ فَإِذَاۤ أُحۡصِنَّ فَإِنۡ أَتَیۡنَ بِفَـٰحِشَةࣲ فَعَلَیۡهِنَّ نِصۡفُ مَا عَلَى ٱلۡمُحۡصَنَـٰتِ مِنَ ٱلۡعَذَابِۚ ذَ ٰلِكَ لِمَنۡ خَشِیَ ٱلۡعَنَتَ مِنكُمۡۚ وَأَن تَصۡبِرُوا۟ خَیۡرࣱ لَّكُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ غَفُورࣱ رَّحِیمࣱ (25) یُرِیدُ ٱللَّهُ لِیُبَیِّنَ لَكُمۡ وَیَهۡدِیَكُمۡ سُنَنَ ٱلَّذِینَ مِن قَبۡلِكُمۡ وَیَتُوبَ عَلَیۡكُمۡۗ وَٱللَّهُ عَلِیمٌ حَكِیمࣱ (26) }
[Surah An-Nisāʾ: 25-26]
Muslims should really accept the fact that their dangerously close to justifying sex slavery.
Saying consent is a virtue is not appealing to liberal ideals but rather basic human decency
The apostle Paul added to the revelation that came to Isa (AS). "Brother" Paul here believes in the ADDED texts (hadith) to the revelation that came to Muhammad (SAW). I guess he's following his namesake's "guidance".
I believe the guest got it backwards: The reason why nobody mentioned consent as a condition for having intercourse with the slave girls was that they were not in a legal position which make their agreement or disagreement matter, enslavement meant their becoming personal property of their owners, thus they were free to enjoy them as much as one is free to enjoy his property. In other words Jurists were not negligent nor did they base their theorisation on the norms of their times.
" thus they were free to enjoy them as much as one is free to enjoy his property"- No, slaves had rights. Less rights than a free person, but still had rights. Kinda like how prisoners have some rights, but cannot vote for example in USA.
Dont agree with you . Slaves were not considered property in Islam . Nobody could force a slave to change his or her religion , neither could slaves be tortured or abused . Ancient jurists did not mention it because ownership was like marriage , so no consent was needed , but they did not advocate harming the concubine . Neither do we see this type of advocacy in type of stories / fictions we read . Marzina was a slave woman in Ali baba and forty thieves. She was clearly well treated . Later she was freed and married to the owner's son . There are numerous stories like that while captors who forcefully hold women against their wills are looked down upon as barbarians
That's not how it works: you do not get to do what you like with another child of Adam.
@@AJ-pc9gu Having rights doesn't mean being treated as others nor making one's consent a condition for something to be legal.
@@islamadam8502 sahih muslim 1657a: "He who slaps his slave or beats him, the expiation for it is that he should set him free". So you're not allowed to strike a slave, but you're allowed to rape?
Gievn whats happening to muslim ummah today, i believe an appropriate topic for your vlog should've been a fatwa encouraging families to adopt muslim children from Palestine and encouraging financially able men to take up a subsequent wife from syria or palestine to provide them with much needed shelter preventing muslim women entering prostitution. No one talks about that. Here we are discussing lesser relevant topic that doesnt directly affect 99.9% of the viewership.
Most people who have been killed In Palestine are women and children, I'm sure many Palestinians' don't want to be shipped abroad to be the third wife of a foreigner. They want to stay on their land, with their people.
Or they could be given donations…and a house…you dirty animal
only the war of prisoners used as a slave.
and we have a whole criteria how to treat them to behave with them. not a single religion or ideology have this.
Actually Jesus taught that we should not have slaves.
@@John-critic No he didn't
@@myinstgiscarbenuim1693 so where did Jesus teach that having slaves was OK?
@@John-critic in the old testament it was okay and in the new testament he never says that's it's prohibited which means it's still allowed
Geneva convention has laws for war. In fact, unlike Islam, war-time rape has been declared a war crime by the UN. There is no doubt the most countries do not follow these rules. But Muslims never followed Islamic rules of war either. Moreover, Islamic rules of war never saved female POVs from rape. This dude is glorifying an evil practice perpetuated by Islam and Muslims.
I have zero trust is hadeeths . Some hadeeths even say only Quaresh can be Caliphs . This is of course racist and goes against Quran and other hadeeths
Throwing all hadith under the bus is illogical. Every hadith must be dealt with on a case by case basis. That hadith on Quraysh is often misunderstood. You can't just get the picture with one hadith. Ibn Khaldun understood it in the context of this hadith (Sunan Abi Dawud 4647) "The caliphate of Prophecy will last thirty years; then Allah will give the Kingdom to whom he wishes; or his kingdom to whom he wishes." Which means the Quraysh would only last for the Rashidun Caliphate, which in fact happened.
Would recommend you take a class on Hadith. I would recommend HAD 101 at taqwaseminary - marifa program. Here are a few questions that this specific course answers:
Why do we need ḥadīth when we have the Quran?
How reliable are the works of ḥadīth?
What’s so special about the Six Books of ḥadīth & their authors?
I hope this helps, I have friends that used to not follow Hadith also, and I myself was skeptical, but subhanAllah we have a rich and strong history in Islam. We are just ignorant and should seek the knowledge to clear any doubts we have. Salaam wish you the best!
wish I could provide you a link to the course, but YT will hide my comment if I have a link in it. For the course, can search on google "hadith 101 taqwa seminary", should be the first link
The reliability of a hadith was established just like how a Qur'an verse was done, which is the transmission of the text authentically. The meaning and understanding of that text has nothing to do with its reliability. The hadith that talks about only the Quraysh as the Caliphs, the scholars have explained it already. It was a political recommendation by the Prophet and not a religious obligation, because the arab tribes naturally revered and obeyed a Qurayshi leader which helps the Islamic leadership in control and functioning with very little chance of rebellion. Likewise, the Turks were recommended by the scholars in the later era because of the world naturally submitting to them on the European side. But if there comes a more competent leader from another tribe or race, and the military generals give him the pledge of allegiance, then the muslims must submit to his rule. The recommendation is not absolute.
There is no Sahih Hadith say that.
Be Careful from "Nakara" heretics and gain knowledge.
A slave had no power to ‘consent’ to her master. Unbelievable that 2 mature educated men fail to understand this, or perhaps refuse to acknowledge it.
its called schizophrenia.
No, they do have the power. In the institution of islamic caliphate, especially the early days the gradual change that had been introduced is to change the preception of slave from a mere object, to ordinary servants or workers. Which has certains basic rights including the right of their own body. They would be bound to a contract with their master and should the master infringed their right according to islamic sharia (rule) the master could be forced to free the slave. This does not add that the act of freeing slave is also seen as one of the ways of retribution and pardoning of some of capital sin to God. Like murder, theft, non-marital person adultery and so on. Islam strives to slowly and gradually eradicate slavery which had been seen as the norm for millenia human history, just like how it slowlu gradually eradicates the habbits of drinking alcohol and adultery through several stages, that would make people deemed those acitvities (slavery, alcoholism, addiction, adultery) as utterly shameful
@@Heavenlyrules
irradiation through conquering nations by the sword? plus why are muslims better humans for you then what muslims
we see today? why were all the perfect muslims in the beginning?
as an oriental male how can you falsify islamic slavery? your countries were some of the last to be enslaved by islam.
Book 15, Number 4094:
Ma'rur b. Suwaid reported: I saw Abu Dharr wearing clothes, and his slave wearing similar ones. I asked him about it, and he narrated that he had abused a person during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upoe.him) and he reproached him for his mother. That person came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and made mention of that to him. Thereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: You are a person who has (remnants of) Ignorance in him. Your slaves are brothers of yours. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him, he should feed him with what he eats, and dress him with what he dresses himself, and do not burden them beyond their capacities, and if you burden them,(beyond their capacities), then help them.
You all on here are Christian’s? Your bible endorses the beating of a slave to near death, this encourged the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade ever heard of that, slavery of human beings on a on industrial level. In Islam it actually discourages slavery.
You should get a Muslim on your blogs.. having 2 non-muslims talk about a topic in Islam is not the right way to go.
Brother Paul is a Muslim. Don't know about the second brother
okay s oin other words lets throw an nisa 24 under the bus to justify slavery
Is it true that Rasululah (PBUH) had 2 concubines: Maria the Copt and Raihana??
Can someone make it clear?
Yes, he SAW did. Many of the sahaaba had Slaves and concubines
He freed them and they accepted islam before Marriage.
@@dcanebreezy5784 where's the evidence?
Yes
Isn't that better than being 🌈 like you?
justin parrott. the new enemy of africa. this is just an insult on so many levels, especially to sudan and egypt.
What's put a bee in your bonnet buddy? Got anything constructive to say? Any scholarly opinion to share?
@@thetriumphsprint
really?
you think this is a scholarly opinion because the quran says what your right hand possesses instead of the word r***? you can really see USA islam on this one, muslim preachers admit it where i live because it was part of a different time. just goes to show that in some places its more illegal to say it was a commandment then others.
What are you referring to? Genuinely curious.
@@LIVEREALFOOLED I asked for your scholarly opinion. I made no mention of Justin. Your comment was simply accusatory. Why Africa and what did it have to do with the talk Justin have?
Our scholars historically discussed these issues at length and the majority opinion is that sexual relations cannot be forced in a servant, concubine, prisoner of war.
In those older days, the women used to accompany their men into battle. After the battle there were often isolated women whose husbands had died. The Muslims were required to care for them. They became servants. They had the right to be fed, clothed and cared for like other family members. If they consented then sex was permitted. Force was not allowed.
Compare this to other people. The Vikings were famous for r*ping and pillaging. The Mongols, after defeating a people, generally as mass killing, would slaughter the living children. They were an army and slaughter was considered a mercy rather than death by starvation. The crusaders r*ped and committed mayhem on their way to Palestine, often against other Christians. Frankly, the west fails in most moral arguments.
@@punkysoso
r***** female captives in islam.
4.24 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
(And all married women (are forbidden unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess) of captives, even if they have husbands in the Abode of War, after ascertaining that they are not pregnant, by waiting for the lapse of one period of menstruation. (It is a decree of Allah for you) that which I have mentioned to you is unlawful in Allah's Book. (Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned) as unlawful, (so that ye seek them) marry (with your wealth) up to four wives;
trust some white people to lie about this
We should treat Hadits with certain level of skepticism because these hadiths are not a solid biography of the prophet. These are some random references of the prophet's sayings described by countless men, and then compiled by many later stage scholars with their different angles of view and perspectives. Hadith collections are much similar to the bible, which were documented at a later period comparing to Quran. So their authenticity and trustworthiness can always be questioned. They cannot be used as a solid reference for rulings. Rulings can be given only based on justified reasoning of present circumstances under the principle of Quranic instructions. And rulings can be changed time to time based on situations.
Said like someone who knows nothing about hadiths at all... honestly keep your mouth shut if you don't know what you're talking about, before that same tongue pulls you headlong into Jahannam.
You are a ignorant Kafir. There are enough videos and books speaking about Hadith science, you should watch or read, before you spread your misinformation. May Allah guide us.
@@hmzzrg5045Instead of insulting and threatening hellfire why don't you back up your claims and enlighten him
Heretic. don't talk about Our deen you are a jahil.
Hadith collection is similar to bible?
Quran & hadith reached us through Isnad ya Jahil
Have your read Ilm lhadith? Jar7 wa ta'adil? retarded
Islam won't be reformed trust me. You are wasting your time "Batini"
Secular liberals, rejectors of Sunnah and all new ideologies to the garbage of history. See you there
@@AB-et6nj ?
Who are you ? and why would someone put billions of evidences and science of Golden chaine and all hadith science in a comment section?
He just goes learn the basics of his deen before open up his mouth. Age of ignorance and corruption.
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Please change the thumbnail. Brother Paul
There's no such thing as consent in Islam. A wife's consent was not needed for sexual relations, because the nikah contract itself was technically a sale of her vulva to the husband. Which is to say that the husband paid the mahr in order to transfer the wife's property (her vagina) to himself as his own property. Marital rape was therefore an oxymoron.
Logically, then, if a female slave is per se property in her entirety, then obviously there was no consent needed to make use of her. Unless if she is someone else's property, which is what Parrott has mentioned here.
Consent never factored into the juridical discussions. Jurisprudence is however different from the reality, and there is a growing field of research in this area. Anyone with university acess can easily find ample research on concubinage and marriage in Islam. You do not need to learn Arabic and read the hadith yourself; you will be out of your depth anyway. Plenty of other scholars have already done the hard work for you.
Nikkah is the same the man pays a Mahr in exchange for intimacy, except a husband cannot force intimacy with his wife,
He can divorce her is she doesn't satisfy him and a slave master can sell his slave if she isn't a good one
Women also owned male slaves, doesn't mean they also owned their penis
A believer must be beautiful in nature and behaviour...Islam teaches goodness...what people did or do in such matters, Allah will definitely hold them accountable...
So tell me, which Arabic version of the quran do you use and why that one? Or do you not even know that there are some 40 different versions of the Arabic quran we know of? Of course all these qurans were written by unknown authors. And how do you deal with all the mistakes, discrepancies, inconsistencies and contradictions in that quran as well as the approval of evil such as raping women who have been captures in battle (surah 33:50) which is adultery and wife beating (surah 4:34) as well as child marriage (surah 65:4) which means that Mohammed and his allah approved of raping little prepubescent girls. And we see that Mohammed led by example when he married a 6 year old child and then raped that child when it was just 9 years old. Clearly Mohammed disqualified himself as a prophet of GOD by the evil he perpetrated. And remember all of islam is only based what Mohammed maybe recited and how he lived.
So tell me, why do you even believe that you will be with GOD in heaven on judgement day when you follow Mohammed? And do show the quran verses on which you base your belief. Remember our ONE TRUE GOD of the Bible promises every person that if they accept Jesus as their saviour and follow what Jesus commanded until they die, they will be with GOD in heaven. As Mohammed claimed to be the final prophet, surely he promised the same for people who follow Mohammed? If not where does it leave you my friend?
اللهم عليك باسراءيل و نتنياهو و الصهيون هذا دعاء محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم لما ظلمه قريش 😢المرة الوحيدة التي دعا على احد، اهوا و صلوا و رددوا ❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Dodgy hadeeths
Don't be disrespectful.
@@phoenixknight8837 not everyone shares your opinion
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Concubines ❤
It’s a well known concept with regard to Islamic jurisprudence that Everything is halal (permissible) unless explicitly forbidden. There are absolutely no jurisprudential texts that require consent from a slave to have intercourse with her master, therefore consent is not needed. In fact, the concept of consent is completely absent from Islamic jurisprudence with regards to a man and his wife, or a man and his slave. Which means that it is halal for a man to rape his wife or slave, that is his right. 🤮 If you disagree with me, bring me a legitimate Islamic text that outlaws this.
BONUS: Angels will curse a wife if she refuses to sleep with her husband (Sahih Muslim 1436d). This is sexual coercion, and a husband may beat his wife if she refuses to give herself to her (as it is a form of disobedience), read the Tafsir for surah 4:34
its one thing people converting to this faith but to perpetrate blasphemy in the name of allah to remove guilt is plain sad isnt it? do you think these men lack attention or something? what is it they enjoy so much about the faith they need to rewrite for the middle east? western islam.
Your initila premise is false. Am I allowed to stab someone with a pen? Obviously that's not explicitly prohibited, but it's also obviously not halal. So there goes your argument lol
“And let those who do not have the means to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His bounty. And if any of those ˹bondspeople˺ in your possession desires a contract ˹to buy their own freedom˺, make it possible for them, if you find goodness in them. And give them some of Allah’s wealth which He has granted you. Do not force your ˹slave˺ girls into prostitution for your own worldly gains while they wish to remain chaste. And if someone coerces them, then after such a coercion Allah is certainly All-Forgiving, Most Merciful ˹to them˺.”(Surah An-Nur 33)
“If only they had attempted the challenging path ˹of goodness instead˺! And what will make you realize what ˹attempting˺ the challenging path is? It is to free a slave, or to give food in times of famine to an orphaned relative or to a poor person in distress, and-above all-to be one of those who have faith and urge each other to perseverance and urge each other to compassion. These are the people of the right.”(Surah Al-Balad 11-18)
@@AJ-pc9gu You ARE allowed to stab your WIFE with a pen (provided you do not stab her in the face and you do not break any bones). Also, it’s not my initial premise, it’s a premise from islamic jurisprudence itself, and all jurisprudence in general.
@@LIVEREALFOOLED Ngl i don’t understand what you wrote…
Ma malekat aymanakum is not necessarily for female slaves. It could be free or rich women as well. Quran 24:33 makes it clear that ma malelat aymnakum could also be men.
People like you two should not talk about things you do not know about. This is a scourge today that anyone can assume to have knowledge and influence people.
Long live Islam. MARG BAR KUFFAR!