As a teenager I went through at least FIVE watches BEFORE a SEIKO DIGITAL entered into my life. It lasted OVER 25 years!!! I was literally weeping when the jeweler (AND SEIKO FACTORY REPS TOO!) told me they couldn't fix it. I've STILL got it tucked away in a drawer out of respect for it and the memories it brings back each time I look at it. BEST, MOST DURABLE WATCH I EVER WORE! THANK YOU SEIKO!
I have a full week with mine which I only worn once as I have a heavy rotation of watches, at first glance upon receiving it I sad to myself cool watch, under the 10X loupe and inspecting the timepiece closely I have to say that it's a beautiful watch, a keeper for me. The movement has settled in to 3-4 seconds a day and I believe it might do 1-2 as my other 6L35 in my SJE073. 3.3K might seem like a lot but the watch follows the less is more approach and design, materials and workmanship is great. A truly unique and original design.
The other component of Seiko’s grammar of design that isn’t talked about as much is the use of second-order curvature to keep the reflections in that zaratsu mirror finish from being distorted.
I just ordered one new for $1,900, no tax. I am glad I didn't pay $3,300. $1,900 is a fair price for this watch. Beautiful watch, solid movement, beautiful finishing and gorgeous design.
Wow impressed by your knowledge of Seiko, a lot of watch UA-camrs don't know this stuff. There was actually another accuracy competition in 1968, can't remember the exact name, but basically the Swiss pulled the plug on it when it became clear they were going to lose to Seiko with their 45 Caliber 36,000 vph movement. I've got 2 Seiko dress watches, a Grand Quartz 4843-8110 from 1977 & a King Seiko 4502-7000 from 1968. I would probably get an original KS44 over the reissue, no date & buying a good example & getting it serviced would still be a lot cheaper than buying the new version, cheers
yes in 1968 I mentioned seiko went to Genève competition. 67 was the last year of the observatory chronometer test. Nice watches you got there. Yes original is cheaper and a great option.
@@EscapementWatch Thankyou, the competition I was thinking of was the Neuchatel Observatory chronometer trails, this was held until 1968 as far as I'm aware when the swiss took their ball & went home rather than lose to Seiko. Seiko then took the same movement s & entered the Geneva competition in the same year & took all the top places for Mechanical movements as you stated in your video.
Was at my AD today and saw this watch. I knew I had to have it. It will be my 30th birthday gift for me in October. My AD is holding it for me until then so I can pay it outright in October.
Sweet! Grats in advance. This one from the video sold and Canada only got 11 units so Seiko Canada is on the lookout for me for 1. I hope they come through because I let this slip through my fingers and I'm regretting it.
Buy the Tudor and get your King Seiko fix via a vintage Seiko Lord-matic! The Lord series is great! You get 80% of the King Seiko look for 1/2 the price of a vintage KS! You might be able to enjoy both!,...sort've! 😊
Thank you so much for this work. Your knowledge of Seiko is encyclopaedic and has a gravity of its own. Your re-telling of the Seiko ascent to the upper echelon of horology was poetic. The
Oh man, why did you have to do that! Was keeping an eye out for the SLA043 on the 2nd hand market. Then I saw the short video for this (SJE043) and instantly fell in love with the vintage dressy look, the boxed sapphire glass and the grey sunburst dial. Then you go ahead and show both of them together. Now I don't know which one to buy. Can't really afford to buy either of them but know I have to have one.
Correction on the worlds first constant force. The T0 (T-zero) Constant-force Tourbillon incorporates a fully integrated constant-force mechanism and tourbillon on the same axis for the first time in the world.
Which one do you like better, the sje083 or the ske091? I love the polishing on the sje083 and, the lugs and the contrast with the beautiful leather strap.
That's a cracking re-issue. The case is amazing - the bevels on those lugs...? Dial wise: I like the colour - a lot - but I do prefer other vintage KS ref's that had contrasting black inlays down the centre of the indicies and hands (which were always super long & narrow 'alpha' style). A great watch though and a thorough review. The new brown/gilt Alpinist looked the goods too btw... I'm really digging what Seiko are doing ATM. As the majority of people in the hobby are whining about prices, Seiko are creating a real alternative to dressier sports watches like the Oris Pointer Date with the current Alpinists, for about 1/3 of the cost!, and the re-imagined 62MAS pieces like the SPB143J are a viable alternative to the BB58 for well under 1/2 the $... and they just keep coming. I'm so frickin' sick of all the 'Seiko's charging twice as much for exactly the same product' crap I read in every comment section... I paid $700AUD (~$450-ish USD - hard to be exact due to taxes etc...) for my 2020 Alpinist SPB123J late last year. Chucked it on an after market jubilee and it's sᴇɴsᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ. Probably my best purchase of the year - besting a number of entry level Swiss brands. So that was ᴍʏ rant... Sorry. 😊
@@EscapementWatch thanks. Definitely worth the price I pay for. Zaratsu polishing Thinnest movement 12 o’clock signature marker Grammar of design King seiko buckle The golden medallion And the Uber boxed sapphire crystal! It will shine like a diamond!
it's a very beautiful and stunning watch which carried along history of itself all the way back from the 60s. With seiko recently started to introduce more king seiko version with lower end caliber, this piece is definitely a collector piece.
It seems dress watches just don’t sell like the sport pieces do these days, so this beautiful vintage styled dress piece has been no exception (which is a good thing for me). And because this model isn’t highly sought after at the moment, I got a lightly used one for a trade of my SPB187 and 1200$ cash! I’m one who values a small, but nice collection and this KSK along with my 3861 Speedmaster will be my main daily watches going forward. Keep up the great work on these videos man! You’re one of my favorite reviewers!
Yes I think Seiko made a bit too many of these. Should have been 1000 units or 2000. But they just released this same watch with yellow gold indices at 1700 units. So maybe they adjusted the demand. Grats on the watch. Will hopefully review the new affordable versions in the future.
Um most Tudors use in house movements now. The only ones that don’t are under $3k. Even those ones use top grade quality ETA/Sellita movements which are higher finished and regulated to COSC level of accuracy. The Tudor name and brand still holds a lot of weight in horology and they are finished really well so it makes sense what they cost. Just saying, know your facts before hatin 🤷♂️
OMG , that Blue Willy 😳 Yes the KSK is truly Beautiful. I think the Sport version is the 62MAS. This New KSK is good lookin, I like all the details in it, front and back. This is going to be a limited edition KSK episode. Congrats capturing this video.
Great video! I noticed however that the indices seem to be somewhat rough at edges and some particulates can be found too. For the price nearing Grand Seiko, that's a shame.
Really appreciate the support and thank you for watching the episode. Sometimes we do not connect with watches and it is okay to sell it everyone is different.
It would be hard for me to pick this or the SBGW231 but I might go with this one for the more interesting dial and having a date window. Plus you can find it for $2,500 now vs $3,500+ for the GS.
I am debating between spending a pretty penny in a King Seiko SJE083 or a more affordable Seiko Skyliner in good condition. I know these are somehow different watches, and we have the old dilema between modern and vintage watches. Any advice? So far, I am leaning towards the Skyliner, it looks great in pictures and won’t break my bank. By the way, you videos are great.
The sje083 is far superior in fit and finish over the skyliner. But the skyliner is a nice watch no doubt. Are you in Canada I'm selling an sje083 and vintage 56ks if your interested.
First time on the channel and curious about his Tudor rant. The MT5612 is a very good movement. So good that Breitling is using it in exchange for their chrono movement. I guess it must be one of the old ETA movements.
I love tudor as well! They remind me of the old rolex affordable tool watches. but doesn't mean I'd buy the eta versions. Its the homage brand. but a great brand! Grats on your rolex bay 58!
@@EscapementWatch Yep, exactly and thanks! I’ve had mine since 2019 when the hype was real for the black one. I managed to get one from an AD after a couple weeks of asking. My regular AD wanted a full deposit and it was a 6 month plus wait.
I love this one, but the price kept it out of reach as I just can’t justify $3300 for a dress watch. Two years on, my AD has two unsold that they moved to their clearance page listed at $1900. After a bit of back and forth (and a strong purchase history with them) and they let me have it for $1700, or just $50 more than half price. At what I paid it was a no-brainer, and is now one of my favorite watches.
Yeah I was very surprised that the demand for King Seiko is so low. So they basically have to give them away. Which is good for the fans who really want one congrats. My authorized dealer cover jeweler doesn't even carry the normal King seiko's the lower tiered ones because they just don't sell but maybe in the future he will they keep pumping out new models
Had one in hand on Friday, great watch! Just waiting for seiko to have it available in a different dial color. Already have four watches with same dial color.
Nope, This is King Seiko, it won't have other color, even it has, it won't be under King Seiko series, it would be in other name, which might resemble but far from this Reissue. Same as 62mas and SPB series. So if you wait to get other color, it will be a lesser series or diff series totally.
Great review. It's nice to get more insight into the brand itself and their movements. The watch itself is very elegant and sublte! So far my dress watches are all vintage pieces (quartz 80s constellation, GS45208000 and Tissot from my grandfather). I was seriously considering this KS as my next purchase but atm I am looking for a nice caseback display watch.
Man, such a cool watch! Best review I've seen. And you speak the truth about the Chew-duh rip! But, the King... Tanaka-San was a genius - far more so than Genta. The finish on this is at GS level and the movement is fine. It took me a while to get to the bottom of this movement, as Seiko keeps a bit Scotch about it. It was originally a Credor movement, then sold to Soprod as a 2892 drop in alternative, to become the A10, then it's had a few minor tweaks and name changes to what we have here. Great to see Seiko releasing non-divers at the same quality as the SLA re-issues. So, GS finish, Tanaka design, 2892 level movement at $3k? On natural finish croc? That says value to me - try getting that at Breitling, IWC or Chew-duh! And it will hold value. Pleased to say mine is in-coming! Dude, really you should!
What are your thoughts on the latest, more affordable, non-limited King Seiko reissue line release? I would love if you could do a video on that entire line!
This KS is such an amazing tribute timepiece to a well respected branch of Seiko. Curious, assume your planning on wearing this are you going to swap out the LE strap for something more daily friendly?
I really like the original strap. It is really comfy and soft even one the first time wearing it. So for now no. But possibly dress it down in the future. I have no idea with what tho.
🌎Worlds 🌎not a fair place cannot have a non European company winning 😉 So it has to be European 🇪🇺 Think about Japanese motorbikes have taken over . 🤔Plus still like my Seiko watches. Great video
This video is old and my stance on ETA has softened a bit over the years as long as you can get it used for at least 30-40% off. Example: New Breitling Super ocean uses a Sellita SW200 for $5300 USD! that is a crazy high price even tho cosc certified.
- oh, while you’re there, here’s a question. If one bought one of these, would it be foolish, rather than to keep it locked up in a collection, to wear it daily the rest of one’s natural? Make it a ‘constant companion’ watch rather than a ‘hoarded in a drawer forever’ watch?
Is the actual side profile of this watch Zaratsu polishing--actually distortion free like Grand Seiko. I am not sure based on many videos i have watched, have you tried playing around and verifying if that is the case? Please let me know, even Seiko marketing state the lugs are zaratsu polished, but made no mention of entire case.
Can it be worn in casual settings or only for dressy events? I own a grand seiko sbgm221 and a longines heritage flagship but I have chance to buy it this almost new condition f]and wonder if it can be worn more casually since I am mainly a casual guy.
@@EscapementWatch thanks kan you convinced me to pull the plug got a great deal almost new for 35 percent off and tax free I love the shape and love how your video was convincing also it fits my 7 inch wrist well, keep the great videos and long live seiko fans.
Grats!!! It is so lovely. Also, I have hit this watch on door jams and tables *marble* many times by mistake obviously but the good news is the scratch resist coating is doing fantastic. It has about 20 hits and looks new still.
'The people who get one of these are so lucky', you say. No, not lucky; rich. They will suck up 3000 pieces in a moment. Have to say that Seiko are losing a lot of longtime fans with their prices and manipulative marketing.
Not really. Yes the price has increased, but trust me, you need to be both lucky and rich to get this. You want cheaper seikos? They have other variants for you. A cheap KSK? In your dreams maybe. This KSK during 1960s is a premium flagship already. You want the KSK? Pay for it, be it vintage or new.
This is a collector's item. I have paid mine for a month in advance, and, my dealer still haven't got the watch yet. No discount. Even all my GS, l get very good regular client discount, but, not this one. According to my dealer, though, he is not certain, this is another one off like the 1st reissue. Bro, what's the ref for the 1st reissue? I couldn't find it. Yes, even my 36.5mm vintage ksk does have a good wrist presence, similar to the 57GS. I like it a lot.
Enjoy it mate. It's a gorgeous watch. A special piece too, perfect collectors piece as you said. I can't see Seiko making a habit of KS re-issues; even in small numbers for enthusiasts. I reckon they'd be concerned about confusion as they're working so hard on building the GS brand. Congrats on your purchase.
Yes, Falling, l wouldn't miss this historical piece. Same for the 59' Alpinist reissue sben001 and the lower end spb245. I will check out the scvn001. Tks s
The 6L35 movement in these limited edition ones definitely makes the price worth it. I’m frustrated that the non limited versions have a 6R31 movement for a price of 1700. The finishing is great but is it worth the price for that movement? Idk 6R31 is basically the 6R35 without the date. In other news have you seen the special edition king Seiko with the purple dial? 😍 so beautiful might but that for my birthday lol the dial justifies the price.
Lovely and informative take, and the watch itself is stunning! Though the hatched 12o'clock index looks good, it does feel out if place just a tad bit because no other indices are similarly hatched. One question - it would have been much appropriate if this watch had King Seiko mentioned instead of Seiko at the 12 o'clock position like GS does. Any reason why it is not so? It would also result in a cleaner dial.
Dude, all your questions and your opinions will be answered if you google, king seiko 44-9990. This video already said, it is a faithful recreation. RECREATION. And no, the 12 o’clock marker is NOT out of place at all. That is signature of King Seiko duh!
no seiko should be at the top. KING seiko and Grand seiko were always and should always be at the bottom as a sub brand for seiko. but they changed it recently because of north america customers can't pay more then 10 dollars for a seiko. they need the word grand somehow on top! the dial is still hella CLEAN!
I hate grand seiko, but this king seiko is interesting Edit: rather then hate, I would say dislike, the movements are gorgeous but the design are just not my thing
This one would have been sold out if it was an 8L. $3300 for a 6L that is easily obtainable in watches at $1000 represents a challenge in my opinion. It’s the only issue holding me back from an otherwise excellent and nostalgic revival.
People feel it is still too much. Although Seiko uses this base calibre in Credor watches which is their highest tier brand. Mine is regulated on my wrist doing 0.4seconds a day with strong amplitude. A fantastic movement. These are selling for 2200usd used right now. In 5-10 years may increase but we will have to wait and see.
yep in the video I did mention its kinda high....but I do feel its worth it for the history. the rarity once they disappear for good in 5 years and the high quality movement and finish.
Not true. a ton of different watches each one will be limited but they'll make a different version of it so you can have it in your own colorway and that one will be limited too but for King's Seiko it's extra limited because they only make it once every 20 years and maybe never again. I had a couple people email me last week for the 62 Mass 1700 units made we can't find any of them in the warehouse or from Seiko to order they're all at the ads that got allocated there's tough to find they're Limited.
As a teenager I went through at least FIVE watches BEFORE a SEIKO DIGITAL entered into my life. It lasted OVER 25 years!!! I was literally weeping when the jeweler (AND SEIKO FACTORY REPS TOO!) told me they couldn't fix it. I've STILL got it tucked away in a drawer out of respect for it and the memories it brings back each time I look at it. BEST, MOST DURABLE WATCH I EVER WORE!
THANK YOU SEIKO!
If I were you I would randomly pull it out just to give it a respectful BOW 🙇♂️
Get it to a hobbyist seiko repairer. A good seiko is always fixable, just need parts
Amazing story. As TGV said in his review, "...the crown is symbolic of the metaphorical crown they took of the Swiss."
I have a full week with mine which I only worn once as I have a heavy rotation of watches, at first glance upon receiving it I sad to myself cool watch, under the 10X loupe and inspecting the timepiece closely I have to say that it's a beautiful watch, a keeper for me. The movement has settled in to 3-4 seconds a day and I believe it might do 1-2 as my other 6L35 in my SJE073. 3.3K might seem like a lot but the watch follows the less is more approach and design, materials and workmanship is great. A truly unique and original design.
That accuracy is amazing and really helps justify the price. Glad I've ordered one 😸
Great choice! Congrats on the new timepiece! ⌚
The other component of Seiko’s grammar of design that isn’t talked about as much is the use of second-order curvature to keep the reflections in that zaratsu mirror finish from being distorted.
I just ordered one new for $1,900, no tax. I am glad I didn't pay $3,300. $1,900 is a fair price for this watch. Beautiful watch, solid movement, beautiful finishing and gorgeous design.
Wow impressed by your knowledge of Seiko, a lot of watch UA-camrs don't know this stuff. There was actually another accuracy competition in 1968, can't remember the exact name, but basically the Swiss pulled the plug on it when it became clear they were going to lose to Seiko with their 45 Caliber 36,000 vph movement. I've got 2 Seiko dress watches, a Grand Quartz 4843-8110 from 1977 & a King Seiko 4502-7000 from 1968. I would probably get an original KS44 over the reissue, no date & buying a good example & getting it serviced would still be a lot cheaper than buying the new version, cheers
yes in 1968 I mentioned seiko went to Genève competition. 67 was the last year of the observatory chronometer test. Nice watches you got there. Yes original is cheaper and a great option.
Oh and thanks! I'm kinda a seiko fan so I do know some of their history.
@@EscapementWatch Thankyou, the competition I was thinking of was the Neuchatel Observatory chronometer trails, this was held until 1968 as far as I'm aware when the swiss took their ball & went home rather than lose to Seiko. Seiko then took the same movement s & entered the Geneva competition in the same year & took all the top places for Mechanical movements as you stated in your video.
yes exactly!!!! said better then i could!
Great review. I own a 1966 44-9990 , and she needs a service, cost is £195 ( + parts if needed). Will be getting it serviced as soon as I can.
Was at my AD today and saw this watch. I knew I had to have it. It will be my 30th birthday gift for me in October. My AD is holding it for me until then so I can pay it outright in October.
Sweet! Grats in advance. This one from the video sold and Canada only got 11 units so Seiko Canada is on the lookout for me for 1. I hope they come through because I let this slip through my fingers and I'm regretting it.
@@EscapementWatch sorry to hear your loss. But get it if you can find another. Mine is number 651 of 3000
Nice 👍
Particularly enjoyed your accuracy segment and explanation. Accuracy is everything to me in automatics.
I’m buying a Tudor in the morning... oh that redwood box! Maybe I won’t !
i knew the box would do it! hahahaha I promise next time I'll pick on sinn or someone else...give two doors a break.
Buy the Tudor and get your King Seiko fix via a vintage Seiko Lord-matic!
The Lord series is great! You get 80% of the King Seiko look for 1/2 the price of a vintage KS!
You might be able to enjoy both!,...sort've!
😊
Thank you so much for this work. Your knowledge of Seiko is encyclopaedic and has a gravity of its own. Your re-telling of the Seiko ascent to the upper echelon of horology was poetic. The
Agreed awesome content
Oh man, why did you have to do that!
Was keeping an eye out for the SLA043 on the 2nd hand market.
Then I saw the short video for this (SJE043) and instantly fell in love with the vintage dressy look, the boxed sapphire glass and the grey sunburst dial.
Then you go ahead and show both of them together. Now I don't know which one to buy. Can't really afford to buy either of them but know I have to have one.
Correction on the worlds first constant force. The T0 (T-zero) Constant-force Tourbillon incorporates a fully integrated constant-force mechanism and tourbillon on the same axis for the first time in the world.
Which one do you like better, the sje083 or the ske091? I love the polishing on the sje083 and, the lugs and the contrast with the beautiful leather strap.
I'm back watching my OWN video. Trying to get My PAST SELF Advice on this watch! LOL
I just subscribed I love this video and your Passion for KING SEIKO MY Birthday gift is the gold champagne dial 😊 never selling it ❤
Happy birthday!
Thank you 🙏
That's a cracking re-issue.
The case is amazing - the bevels on those lugs...?
Dial wise: I like the colour - a lot - but I do prefer other vintage KS ref's that had contrasting black inlays down the centre of the indicies and hands (which were always super long & narrow 'alpha' style).
A great watch though and a thorough review.
The new brown/gilt Alpinist looked the goods too btw...
I'm really digging what Seiko are doing ATM.
As the majority of people in the hobby are whining about prices, Seiko are creating a real alternative to dressier sports watches like the Oris Pointer Date with the current Alpinists, for about 1/3 of the cost!, and the re-imagined 62MAS pieces like the SPB143J are a viable alternative to the BB58 for well under 1/2 the $... and they just keep coming.
I'm so frickin' sick of all the 'Seiko's charging twice as much for exactly the same product' crap I read in every comment section...
I paid $700AUD (~$450-ish USD - hard to be exact due to taxes etc...) for my 2020 Alpinist SPB123J late last year. Chucked it on an after market jubilee and it's sᴇɴsᴀᴛɪᴏɴᴀʟ. Probably my best purchase of the year - besting a number of entry level Swiss brands.
So that was ᴍʏ rant... Sorry. 😊
haha you and me both.
Got one in the way to my collection. Can't wait! I had the original KS in 1965 with Shield medallion as well!
Great choice! Congrats on the new timepiece! ⌚
@@EscapementWatch thanks. Definitely worth the price I pay for.
Zaratsu polishing
Thinnest movement
12 o’clock signature marker
Grammar of design
King seiko buckle
The golden medallion
And the Uber boxed sapphire crystal!
It will shine like a diamond!
Man I love this channel! Always great material.
Glad you enjoy it!
it's a very beautiful and stunning watch which carried along history of itself all the way back from the 60s. With seiko recently started to introduce more king seiko version with lower end caliber, this piece is definitely a collector piece.
Yes indeed!
Dam... I need this..
we all do!
It seems dress watches just don’t sell like the sport pieces do these days, so this beautiful vintage styled dress piece has been no exception (which is a good thing for me). And because this model isn’t highly sought after at the moment, I got a lightly used one for a trade of my SPB187 and 1200$ cash! I’m one who values a small, but nice collection and this KSK along with my 3861 Speedmaster will be my main daily watches going forward. Keep up the great work on these videos man! You’re one of my favorite reviewers!
Yes I think Seiko made a bit too many of these. Should have been 1000 units or 2000. But they just released this same watch with yellow gold indices at 1700 units. So maybe they adjusted the demand. Grats on the watch. Will hopefully review the new affordable versions in the future.
Great Review, Just get it already!! She will love it, tell her I told you too.
Um most Tudors use in house movements now. The only ones that don’t are under $3k. Even those ones use top grade quality ETA/Sellita movements which are higher finished and regulated to COSC level of accuracy. The Tudor name and brand still holds a lot of weight in horology and they are finished really well so it makes sense what they cost. Just saying, know your facts before hatin 🤷♂️
I owned the BB58 and later bought KSK. Quality on KSK is way far better.
Yes, please do the measurement in all positions.
OMG , that Blue Willy 😳
Yes the KSK is truly Beautiful. I think the Sport version is the 62MAS.
This New KSK is good lookin, I like all the details in it, front and back.
This is going to be a limited edition KSK episode. Congrats capturing this video.
It sure is!
140 YEARS?... WOW! I had NO idea SEIKO went that far back?!!! No wonder they're so reliable and tough.
Great video! I noticed however that the indices seem to be somewhat rough at edges and some particulates can be found too. For the price nearing Grand Seiko, that's a shame.
its not grand seiko finishing on the indices that's for sure. Just the case.
I was seeing that as well .
Excellent review. Very informative. I own 2 of this King Seiko. Initially, I plan to sell one but after watching your vdo I change my mind.
Really appreciate the support and thank you for watching the episode. Sometimes we do not connect with watches and it is okay to sell it everyone is different.
It would be hard for me to pick this or the SBGW231 but I might go with this one for the more interesting dial and having a date window. Plus you can find it for $2,500 now vs $3,500+ for the GS.
I am debating between spending a pretty penny in a King Seiko SJE083 or a more affordable Seiko Skyliner in good condition. I know these are somehow different watches, and we have the old dilema between modern and vintage watches. Any advice? So far, I am leaning towards the Skyliner, it looks great in pictures and won’t break my bank. By the way, you videos are great.
The sje083 is far superior in fit and finish over the skyliner. But the skyliner is a nice watch no doubt. Are you in Canada I'm selling an sje083 and vintage 56ks if your interested.
*the bank and *your videos ;-)
I’m located in the U.S. I still need time to decide. But, I would be interested in knowing the price of the sje083 if it works for you. Thanks
Great review, lots of history and details! Keep on the good work. Best wishes from another watch and Seiko enthusiast from Germany :-)
Instagram might have more of the rant uploaded. Not sure for a 24hr story. lol
I'm interested in purchasing this, may I buy it through Kavar & you (3/4/23)? Thank you.
I am selling mine. If you are interested. Are you located in the GTA?
Beautiful
First time on the channel and curious about his Tudor rant. The MT5612 is a very good movement. So good that Breitling is using it in exchange for their chrono movement. I guess it must be one of the old ETA movements.
about the ETA 2824 Tudors
Even after the two door rant, I have a BB58 and love it! Haha
I love tudor as well! They remind me of the old rolex affordable tool watches. but doesn't mean I'd buy the eta versions. Its the homage brand. but a great brand! Grats on your rolex bay 58!
@@EscapementWatch Yep, exactly and thanks! I’ve had mine since 2019 when the hype was real for the black one. I managed to get one from an AD after a couple weeks of asking. My regular AD wanted a full deposit and it was a 6 month plus wait.
awesome grats!
I love this one, but the price kept it out of reach as I just can’t justify $3300 for a dress watch.
Two years on, my AD has two unsold that they moved to their clearance page listed at $1900. After a bit of back and forth (and a strong purchase history with them) and they let me have it for $1700, or just $50 more than half price.
At what I paid it was a no-brainer, and is now one of my favorite watches.
Yeah I was very surprised that the demand for King Seiko is so low. So they basically have to give them away. Which is good for the fans who really want one congrats. My authorized dealer cover jeweler doesn't even carry the normal King seiko's the lower tiered ones because they just don't sell but maybe in the future he will they keep pumping out new models
Had one in hand on Friday, great watch! Just waiting for seiko to have it available in a different dial color. Already have four watches with same dial color.
Nope, This is King Seiko, it won't have other color, even it has, it won't be under King Seiko series, it would be in other name, which might resemble but far from this Reissue. Same as 62mas and SPB series. So if you wait to get other color, it will be a lesser series or diff series totally.
@@ocb05 I totally understand what you're saying but I just can't justify buying another watch with that dial.
The last King Seiko reissue was made 21 years ago in the year 2000.
This is a great video! I own one and highly recommend! Thanks for the great review...
Great to hear!
Great review. It's nice to get more insight into the brand itself and their movements. The watch itself is very elegant and sublte! So far my dress watches are all vintage pieces (quartz 80s constellation, GS45208000 and Tissot from my grandfather). I was seriously considering this KS as my next purchase but atm I am looking for a nice caseback display watch.
nice collection of dress watches!
I love this Watch, and I have ordered one by my Jewellery, I will get the Watch in April 👍😘
congrats on the historic timepiece epic purchase!
@@EscapementWatch thank you 🙏
Super cool KSK😏😏
My local store has had one (SJE083) for over a year now.
One lucky person will eventually swoop it up.
Man, such a cool watch! Best review I've seen. And you speak the truth about the Chew-duh rip! But, the King... Tanaka-San was a genius - far more so than Genta. The finish on this is at GS level and the movement is fine. It took me a while to get to the bottom of this movement, as Seiko keeps a bit Scotch about it. It was originally a Credor movement, then sold to Soprod as a 2892 drop in alternative, to become the A10, then it's had a few minor tweaks and name changes to what we have here. Great to see Seiko releasing non-divers at the same quality as the SLA re-issues. So, GS finish, Tanaka design, 2892 level movement at $3k? On natural finish croc? That says value to me - try getting that at Breitling, IWC or Chew-duh! And it will hold value. Pleased to say mine is in-coming! Dude, really you should!
Great points here, mine is also on the road!
@@Sef211 Mine's now on the wrist - you won't be disappointed! From the box to the wrist, this is an exceptional watch!
Great Seiko history shared, I learned something new. Another great review! Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it!
What are your thoughts on the latest, more affordable, non-limited King Seiko reissue line release? I would love if you could do a video on that entire line!
Coming soon!
@@EscapementWatch I can’t wait. To be honest, I already bought one, but I’ll wait for you video to see which you choose.
Great vid, like always. Keep it up :D (wrote this after intro) **Edit** OMG THE CRYSTAL! Holy smokes!
ahah thanks man! Yea this watch is something else!
This KS is such an amazing tribute timepiece to a well respected branch of Seiko. Curious, assume your planning on wearing this are you going to swap out the LE strap for something more daily friendly?
I really like the original strap. It is really comfy and soft even one the first time wearing it. So for now no. But possibly dress it down in the future. I have no idea with what tho.
Killer watch and a very informative vid. Thanks.
welcome
Awesome. Thanks for showing this
Our pleasure!
Che Spettacolo👏🏽
The new Tudor Pelagos FXD is the most gorgeous diver on the planet
Can you do a video with a side by side comparison of the KSK and the SLA043?
I held them side by side near the end of the video. They are very different watches. Plus I have to give it back already I believe it sold.
🌎Worlds 🌎not a fair place cannot have a non European company winning 😉
So it has to be European 🇪🇺
Think about Japanese motorbikes have taken over . 🤔Plus still like my Seiko watches.
Great video
I have the SJE073 Baby GS Snowflake as my go to dress watch.
Me too😄
Me three, lol.
@@josevasquez1781 outstanding watch!
Yup! Gasoline (PREMIUM) was 25Cents/gallon in '65!!!
Nice watch.
Very!
Love that piece
Great review. Beautiful watch.
Thank you kindly
YEA BOI
Love it more and more but can't justify the price right now. So I guess I'll miss out.
I think all 3000 are not yet built so more might come to market in 6 months or more.
How much do you want to send me the 25 full minutes rant on the 2824-2 on luxury watches? I’ll pay to hear that!
This video is old and my stance on ETA has softened a bit over the years as long as you can get it used for at least 30-40% off. Example: New Breitling Super ocean uses a Sellita SW200 for $5300 USD! that is a crazy high price even tho cosc certified.
Hoping they replaced the plastic part for a metal one
Theoretically could one attain the piece with the serial number corresponding to one’s birth year? I’m in Japan - would love to find ‘1982’ . . .
Mostly impossible
@@EscapementWatch - I’d wager it’s still sitting in some department store like Bic Camera or Seibu . . . 🤣
- oh, while you’re there, here’s a question. If one bought one of these, would it be foolish, rather than to keep it locked up in a collection, to wear it daily the rest of one’s natural? Make it a ‘constant companion’ watch rather than a ‘hoarded in a drawer forever’ watch?
Is the actual side profile of this watch Zaratsu polishing--actually distortion free like Grand Seiko. I am not sure based on many videos i have watched, have you tried playing around and verifying if that is the case? Please let me know, even Seiko marketing state the lugs are zaratsu polished, but made no mention of entire case.
The entire case is Zaratsu polished.
They also have super hard coating to keep scratch free I think
Yes, Seiko Japan good ,China Japan number one
She's a beaut.
great review...daini - actually pronouced "die knee". :-)
sometimes my mouth doesn't say what my brain commands! I'm working on the name pronouncing.
Can it be worn in casual settings or only for dressy events? I own a grand seiko sbgm221 and a longines heritage flagship but I have chance to buy it this almost new condition f]and wonder if it can be worn more casually since I am mainly a casual guy.
I wear mine casually all the time. It works surprisingly well. It's the watch I wear the most 90% of the time and the one watch I would never sell.
@@EscapementWatch thanks kan you convinced me to pull the plug got a great deal almost new for 35 percent off and tax free I love the shape and love how your video was convincing also it fits my 7 inch wrist well, keep the great videos and long live seiko fans.
Grats!!! It is so lovely. Also, I have hit this watch on door jams and tables *marble* many times by mistake obviously but the good news is the scratch resist coating is doing fantastic. It has about 20 hits and looks new still.
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'The people who get one of these are so lucky', you say.
No, not lucky; rich. They will suck up 3000 pieces in a moment.
Have to say that Seiko are losing a lot of longtime fans with their prices and manipulative marketing.
Not really. Yes the price has increased, but trust me, you need to be both lucky and rich to get this. You want cheaper seikos? They have other variants for you. A cheap KSK? In your dreams maybe. This KSK during 1960s is a premium flagship already. You want the KSK? Pay for it, be it vintage or new.
They are not losing anything, I just bought my second one. This thing is a classic.
By the way things seem, Seiko is doing better than ever. There are still plenty of affordable models to be had.
28800 vph ? or 21600 vph
This is a collector's item. I have paid mine for a month in advance, and, my dealer still haven't got the watch yet. No discount. Even all my GS, l get very good regular client discount, but, not this one. According to my dealer, though, he is not certain, this is another one off like the 1st reissue. Bro, what's the ref for the 1st reissue? I couldn't find it.
Yes, even my 36.5mm vintage ksk does have a good wrist presence, similar to the 57GS. I like it a lot.
Same here. Paid the full amount and it is not in yet. Malaysia here. You?
@@ocb05 hei, same here, bro
I knew you would buy one Canon! I said it in the video. i believe scvn001! its smaller 36.6mm i believe.
Enjoy it mate.
It's a gorgeous watch.
A special piece too, perfect collectors piece as you said.
I can't see Seiko making a habit of KS re-issues; even in small numbers for enthusiasts.
I reckon they'd be concerned about confusion as they're working so hard on building the GS brand.
Congrats on your purchase.
Yes, Falling, l wouldn't miss this historical piece. Same for the 59' Alpinist reissue sben001 and the lower end spb245. I will check out the scvn001. Tks s
Which Twodoor models have a known issue please?
any with a base bb41 ETA 2824 can have that issue. the tudor gmt has a date wheel issue.
The 6L35 movement in these limited edition ones definitely makes the price worth it. I’m frustrated that the non limited versions have a 6R31 movement for a price of 1700. The finishing is great but is it worth the price for that movement? Idk 6R31 is basically the 6R35 without the date. In other news have you seen the special edition king Seiko with the purple dial? 😍 so beautiful might but that for my birthday lol the dial justifies the price.
We have seen it and it may appear on the channel in the future
Great video, but you gotta learn the pronunciation : Daini → “dye knee” Dai = literally a number order and ni = 2 , so “Second Seiko Company”.
I will work on it! I always mess up other language words. unless im fully focused i still call longine.... long jeans! lol
Great review, are the lugs 20mm or 19mm?
20mm on new one. 19mm on old one.
@@EscapementWatch Thank you, by old you mean the original from the 60s?
@@payatavassoli7048 correct!
Lovely and informative take, and the watch itself is stunning! Though the hatched 12o'clock index looks good, it does feel out if place just a tad bit because no other indices are similarly hatched.
One question - it would have been much appropriate if this watch had King Seiko mentioned instead of Seiko at the 12 o'clock position like GS does. Any reason why it is not so? It would also result in a cleaner dial.
Dude, all your questions and your opinions will be answered if you google, king seiko 44-9990. This video already said, it is a faithful recreation. RECREATION.
And no, the 12 o’clock marker is NOT out of place at all. That is signature of King Seiko duh!
no seiko should be at the top. KING seiko and Grand seiko were always and should always be at the bottom as a sub brand for seiko. but they changed it recently because of north america customers can't pay more then 10 dollars for a seiko. they need the word grand somehow on top! the dial is still hella CLEAN!
Sorry, but mine won't see a collectors, glass front cabinet. It's on my wrist, where this watch belongs.
No the collectors wear it. I mean that once it hits a true Seiko collectors box they don't sell it. of course they wear it.
I hate grand seiko, but this king seiko is interesting
Edit: rather then hate, I would say dislike, the movements are gorgeous but the design are just not my thing
Fair enough we all can't like the same things
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This one would have been sold out if it was an 8L. $3300 for a 6L that is easily obtainable in watches at $1000 represents a challenge in my opinion. It’s the only issue holding me back from an otherwise excellent and nostalgic revival.
No 6L is not in 1000 dollar watches. You are thinking of 6R35. They are completely different movements and worlds apart.
@@EscapementWatch Ah you are correct indeed, apologies. Then I wonder why such a beautiful watch is a dud.
People feel it is still too much. Although Seiko uses this base calibre in Credor watches which is their highest tier brand. Mine is regulated on my wrist doing 0.4seconds a day with strong amplitude. A fantastic movement. These are selling for 2200usd used right now. In 5-10 years may increase but we will have to wait and see.
Great watch but to small
Very nice piece but not for me. I will move on and get some other Seikos. Great content Bro !
Understandable
what's a Logal?
Certina Bristol 235
Kinda pricey, no ?
Rolex is cheap then?
yep in the video I did mention its kinda high....but I do feel its worth it for the history. the rarity once they disappear for good in 5 years and the high quality movement and finish.
Great reissue but not worth 4k, and that limited edition.. come-on if everything you make is limited edition then nothing is 🤣
Not true. What is true is you'll never see one of these watches after they land in seikopaths collections. sounds limited to me.
@@EscapementWatch what I meant if everything your making is a limited edition then nothing is special about any of the products 🤔
Not true. a ton of different watches each one will be limited but they'll make a different version of it so you can have it in your own colorway and that one will be limited too but for King's Seiko it's extra limited because they only make it once every 20 years and maybe never again.
I had a couple people email me last week for the 62 Mass 1700 units made we can't find any of them in the warehouse or from Seiko to order they're all at the ads that got allocated there's tough to find they're Limited.
50m wr is a joke on a 3000 dollar watch