I look at others but I think I will always have the 878. It's easy to use and that's good for and old guy like me. Thanks for doing these videos, Jason. Good job.
Mine didn't had such problem with lock keyboard out of the box. I own it couple of days and it is a great video. It is very important to set your Code Plug correctly.
Thank you for you great review for this radio. I am about to purchase one thanks to your video. Greetings from the south part of the Netherlands 73's PD1VCC
I just got my AT-D878UV two days ago and I love it! I'm a total beginner to DMR but if I can figure out how to program it properly before the Texas Statewide Net tonight (23 Jan. 2019) I'll be sure to check in. 73 de K5GHA
Next time you talk to Anytone reps could you please ask them to stick a surveillance mode in it that allows the backlight to not come on under any circumstance other than a programmable side key press? Also have better volume control on the fm music function that is way louder on my 868 than the ham audio. Also see if they would do a DMR trunking control channel based scan for connect plus capacity plus?
I think you have convinced me to stick to tube radios or simple HT's of the last century ... My God I cannot remember to program my Icom ID-51 and my old 78 year old mind just goes blank with this DMR stuff. I am joking just a bit, but lets face it what a way to get a radio working just to talk to someone....73
Not that you are wrong, because you aren't..but people also complain that Baofeng and Wouxun radios are too hard to program. It doesn't really matter how hard/easy it is, someone will always complain. Baofeng radios are simple. DMR is definitely more complicated than programming an analog radio, but some of the most complicated programming I have ever done was on an Alinco HT. Those menus didn't make any sense. I guess my only point is that it doesn't take a DMR radio to make a complicated programming menu.
I appreciate everything you do for the hobby and to generate interest. Maybe you can do a video regarding P25? Or tips and tricks for programming and using commercial radios?
HAPPY NEW YEAR JASON FROM N3NDX,, QUESTION,,, OUT OF THE THREE RADIO,S THE ANYTONE D868/ D878 AND THE BTECH RADIO LOOK A LIKE,, WHITCH ONE DO YOU RECOMMEND I SHOULD CHECH OUT???? ALSO DO YOU STILL HAVE THE KENWOOD DAUL BAND MOBILE RADIO?? 01-05-2019-2:11 A.M. THANKYOU
The Kenwood NX5800 is NOT dual band, so that is why I asked what you were referring to. But yes, I do still have that radio and I will be doing another video on it soon, and installing it in my truck.
Jason, great first look at the 878. I picked one up two weeks ago and am making my first foray into DMR. Would love to see more on this radio and the 'secrets of the code plug', how to access a DMR repeater (is it as easy as I think it should be?) and accessing talk groups. Thanks much for the informative videos, KN4PHU. BTW mine came with the 3100mah battery.
4,000 Memory Channels, 10,000 DMR Talk Groups, 150,000 Digital Contacts, 250 zones, up to 250 channels per zone. WOW! breaking out of the 16 ch per zone! This will be my next.
My point with other comments to the like are - there is no FCC rule for AMATEUR radios to have the keypad locked. This radio is marketed and sold as an Amateur Radio, not commercial one. Commercial radios aren't usually dual band, and they don't incorporate APRS. So they are making it for the Amateur Community and putting a Part 90 label on it to appease the FCC, but there are other ways to appease the FCC for an actual Amateur Radio, rather than making it Part 90. Having said that, it is good to know that this radio can also be used on MURS and GMRS frequencies, since it is truly Part 90.
Since you mentioned you are in contact with AnyTone . Could you ask them to produce a Tri Band with all the bells and whistles of the 878. I am impressed with this radio. But, I am interested in Tri Bands.
Please Please do a full review of the Analog APRS. Would love to know exactly how well that works on receive as well. If it works stand-alone this will absolutely be the next HT i buy.
The APRS only transmits, It does not receive Analog APRS. It does "ranging" on Digital which is a point to point APRS between two radios but that is as close as it gets at this point. De Chuck K0XM BridgeCom Systems.
Awesome. So we're halfway there. The first Chinese HT that can do full-fledged analog APRS is going to be a HOT seller. I hope they can get one made, i'm not excited about paying $300 plus but it may be the only way. Same goes for a fully-integrated APRS Mobile that can Digi-peat.
@@jphillips260 Totally agree, I have an anytone coming tomorrow, I just learned today that it does not receive. Shipping it right back, and have to stick with my Mobilinkd for now. Disappointing.
TODAY IS 12-26-2018-8:52 P.M. AND I AM LISTENING TO A DMR STATE WIDE TRAFFIC NET,, AND COULD SWEAR THAT I JUST HEARD YOU CHECK INTO THE NET.. THIS IS N3NDX, JUST WONDERING...
Yes, if you are listening to the original Texas Statewide 3148 Talkgroup, then that is a Net that I started myself about 4 years ago. It runs every Wednesday evening at 7:30pm CST. For more info, visit DMRTexas.net
This has been discussed already in previous comments... but my reply is still the same...even though this is a Part 90 radio, it is marketed as an AMATEUR radio
Since it is a FCC type approved part 90 commercial radio, that is the requirement. It has to be locked so no "unauthorized personnel" can program it. FYI, you also have to use the same CPS version installed on your computer to use the incorporated firmware update.
Since it is marketed as an Amateur Radio, that really doesn't make sense. You're not wrong about the Part 90 part, but dual band radios are made and marketed for the Amateur community, not commercial. Also I was using the latest CPS and Firmware from Anytone, so no reason they shouldn't match.
@@HamRadio2 I noticed that even on Bridgecom's web site they are marketed under both. The manufacturer doesn't know where any particular radio will be sold so it just makes sense to ship it as a part 90 radio (to appease the FCC) but include the programming cable so it is easy to just download and install the CPS software, connect the programming cable, change the code plug to unlocked, reprogram and done. Some re-sellers that deal only in the amateur radio market may do it before they sell the radio as a perk for buying from them as long as it is clear that it is to only be sold to licensed operators.
I wish they would release a firmware update to allow the 868 to have a black screen. Doesn't the 878 have a feature that pulls a user or learns a user callsign from ther DMRID with out you haven't to constantly update your HT? Maybe I'm misremembering.
It's called Talker Alias and the 878 does support it. However it does not completely eliminate the need for the user database. The transmitting radio needs to be capable of sending the talker alias information. Like D-star and Fusion do. Since many of the DMR radios hams are using don't have the talker alias function and cant send the information. The 878s talker alias on receive would have nothing to show. in that case it reverts to the user database. I think a lot of hotspots will send the talker alias information if the radio dosn't have the feature. But that would help a radio without the feature working thru a repeater. So in my view talker alias can fill in some of the gaps, but user databases won't go away anytime soon.
Thanks for great videos. Did they added APRS messaging already? It's great to be able to send mails and send and receive sms via gateways ie. When celluar in your area is down. This is the only thing I'm missing in AT 878 to consider it instead of Kenwood d74. Thanks! 73
Mine didn't come with a locked screen. I was able to use it and program it from the screen without any issues. I'm also able to lock and unlock the screen very easily
Hello Jason, here is IU2ARQ from Milan, Italy......nice to write to you for the fist time and obviously nice to meet you. I have a real doubt about more DMR transceiver. Is the first time that i have experience with DMR radios.....i have a question for you, please, for a beginner......wich kind of dmr radio i must buy? Thanks a lot for the answer and please tell me some dmr radio i can buy.....maybe Btech 6X2....AnyTone AT-D878UV.....AnyTone AT-D868UV......Retevis RT3S GPS version......or something different, please help me to choose one before i become crazy ......Thanks a lot and sorry for my bad English.....American.....what kind of language is....Anyway.....if you can answer to me, please do it!!!!! Many thanks and 73'S from Italy.
Hi, thanks for commenting. I am not familiar with a couple of those models you mention, but I have been really happy with the Anytone radios. Both the 868 and 878 seem to be very solid and would make good choices for you. 73
@@HamRadio2 thanks a lot for your answer.... Ok now I have no doubt about.....i will go to buy an Anytone.....i think 868 model because I am a beginner and I know just few things about dmr radios. So, thanks again and my best regards to you and I will follow your reviews. Thank you very much indeed!!! 73's de IU2ARQ, ITALY.
MERRY CHRISTMAS JASON! Keep up with the reviews and unboxing segments. For every complaint there's a hundred happy viewers. No complaints here de Rich KG5RBG, Conroe.
@@HamRadio2 Any update? APRS uses AX.25. I don't think programming the APRS frequency to FM alone will work in connecting to the APRS.fi. I am curious to know the status of this analog connection. Good job on the video. Thanks.
@@johnpimd8966 Haven't had time to mess with it anymore but programming the frequency into the radios SHOULD make it beacon your info, which can be caught by an igate or digipeater, and those TX to APRS.fi
Hi and Merry Christmas! So... Btech 6x2, Anytone D868, Anytone D878... pretty much same rig? I was leaning towards a Btech as it comes with 2 batteries and the radio seemed like a D868 upgrade. Still haven't made a decision. SUPER BIG DRAWBACK... for me >>> Windows-only-based programming software
No, not the same since the 878 has true APRS and the others don't. It isn't the vendors keeping CHIRP and RT Systems from making software for these radios, it is those 2 companies. I spoke to RTD at Hamcom, they claim it is too complicated.
@@patrickyoung5348 Chirp was just an example, it runs on linux... the software can be proprietary so long as it runs cross-platform... I'm just not up for keeping a Windows computer around for radio use. That's all I was getting at.
If you need a built in repeating function get the BTech, but you will loose roaming capability. If not get the 878. :) 878 also has some hardware upgrades.
Hi Jason, I was holding myself as I didn't want to watch your review of the AT-D878UV before I was finished doing mine. We have to discover the radio by ourselves to make it more genuine, hihi. I posted it today, so now I could watch yours, good job by the way. I'm not sure, but I think mine was locked as well, since I used the software right away it probably went unnoticed, but I can imagine that we I will get the question about this in the future. Thanks for the info. We could make a video together in 2019, how about calling DX on 20 meters together, that would be cool and different from DMR, hihi. Happy new year to you and your family. 73 from Canada, Pascal VA2PV.
Hey Pascal, yes I saw your Anytone video post the other day. I haven't watched it yet, but it is on my watch list. Yes I would be happy to do a video with you in 2019, I think collaboration with other Ham Radio shows is a great thing.
@@HamRadio2 Cool, I suggested 20M because you've mentioned that you wanted to do other types of ham radio video. But it could be any mode. Where do you hang out in DMR, C4FM? Let me know. 73 Pascal VA2PV
So... I have to plug this radio into a computer before I can use it? I assume the programming software is Windows only? I only have a Linux based computer these days, so does that mean this radio is just a brick to people like me?
As stated in the previous comments.... yes it is locked due to the radio's Part 90 status. And no DMR software works with Linux, you need a Windows machine to use any of the CPS for any DMR radio, including Motorola.
You need to be cautious that you maintain compatibility between the Firmware number and the CPS number. It appears to me that you were using CPS version 1.07 and Firmware version 1.09. You need to use CPS 1.09 if you have upgraded to Firmware 1.09.
I never use the manual right out of the box. Never. And I worked in IT support for several years where I chastised others that they should RTFM. My bad.
I was reading on the Bridgecom site that it had to be unlocked prior to use. I also saw that it was Part 90 certified. That’s probably why it’s locked from the factory. Merry Christmas de Nk3ps
Yea this was discussed several threads ago. The radio is marketed to Amateurs, but labeled Part 90. Part 90 radios aren't usually dual band and APRS is an Amateur-used feature, so it doesn't make much sense to put Part 90 restrictions on an Amateur Radio, but that seems to be what they have done.
Yes that is correct. When the radio first released, it wasn't clear that the Part 90 version and that "Ham" version were the same radio. As it turns out (and I have mentioned in subsequent videos too) there are features you can turn off and on in the software to allow this radio to go back and forth in being Part 90 compatible. But yes...you are correct about it needing to be locked to be certified.
@@HamRadio2 Awesome, well at least my sources are good. Anyway, love the videos. Keep it up. Do you use your AT 878UV still or have you upgraded? If you do, maybe think about doing a quick recap video on what you've learned about it since you first started using it. I have had mine for just at a year, and I use it for warehouse work. It is an amazing radio that I am still learning things about. You know way more than me, so you probably have tips and tricks that would help out a lot of people.
@@OG_Zlog I still use mine. There is no upgrade option at this time, imo. The Anytone is the top of the market for dual band DMR HTs in Ham Radio right now. Great idea about an update video - I have done 1 or 2 already like that, where I update software and talk about changes, but I could do one that talks about things I have learned and my usage in the real world. Thanks for dropping by.
AT 7th LIKE, CAN I HAVE THAT RADIO???????? JUST KIDDING,, MERY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR..FROM N3NDX ON 12-24-2018.. GOD ALMIGTHY YEHOVAH BLESS YOU, AMEIN...
I don't like Anytone, Alinco, or Baofeng, because they have no compatible AES 256 Encryption. Obviously I would never utilize that in Amateur Radio, but in Commercially Licensed areas, I very much need that.
@@HamRadio2 I should have added to my reply, Retevis solved the problem with their RT-3s, which I believe is likely the same as a TYT MD-380 U/V. It offers the user to select between his Amateur Profile and encrypted Commercial or Law Enforcement Profile. In Amateur Profile, your Callsign and DMR ID is transmitted and it's all in the clear. When you select the others, that assigned ID is transmitted and AES 256 works just fine.
@@HamRadio2 Indeed it is; my Retevis RT3S HTs are Parts 90 and 95 . They have the FCC seal and id number on the back under the battery. My Alinco DJ-MD5TGP is Part 90 certified. My Radioddity RD-5R has an FCC seal, but I don't see the FCC ID number, so that one may be "Ify".
Please stop calling APRS analog, It’s digital with a different modulation! If you would like to know more I will be happy to explain it. Also thank you for the video.
Ham Radio 2.0 Yes you called analog. My suggestion DMR be called DMR-APRS, DStar-APRS, and the rest like that. APRS is based on packet radio a digital Transmisson. Also merry Christmas!
@@thuff3207 I didn't call it analog, you should watch again. I said you can choose between analog and digital for which APRS you want. It'll TX APRS over 144.390 analog or it'll TX over DMR. Kenwood 710G radios, which have APRS, are fully analog radios. APRS may be a digital type of transmission but it's transmitted either analog or DMR.
@@HamRadio2 HELLO JASON,, THAT WAS MEANT TO BE A COMMENT, ON HOW FUNNY YOU WERE ACTING IN THE VIDEO.. THE WAY YOU WERE RESPONDING TO THE RADIO NOT COOPERATING WITH YOU TO UNLOCK THE KEY PAD..THAT ACTUALLY HAD ME LAUTHING... I PROBABLY SPELLED THAT WRONG ,, OH WELL..FUNNY VIDEO..
The reason the units shipped to the US have the front panel programming locked out is to avoid any part 90 violations. I’m sure it is a CYA move after the FCC came down on other Chinese radios. Jayson you only needed to turn off the force lock option. By turning off keyboard lock option you disabled the manual keypad lock to prevent accidental button pushes. To unlock from a manual keyboard lock you press the green menu button then * (the poorly translated menu says Function button, it should have said menu)
@@patrickyoung5348 Yes, that's been discussed in the previous comments but my response still stands. The radio is marketed to Amateurs, being that its dual band and has APRS.
@@HamRadio2 If who the radio is "marketed" to was all that mattered in the eyes of the FCC, then Icom, Yeasu, Kenwood could import and sell their amateur rigs with transmit opened beyond the ham bands. Since they are locked to the ham bands they don't need a cert. NOT because of who they are "marked" to. Same reason it's illegal for us to unlock a one of there radios without a MARS/CAP cert. Anyway that's my understanding. I enjoy your videos thanks for all the work you put into the channel.
It is NOT illegal to MARS mod a radio, that is why most of your big vendors will do it for you, for a fee. Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu still need a "cert" or at least they need approval from the FCC to sell their rigs. They can't just make any old junk and lock the bands down, then sell it. FCC doesn't work that way. Thanks for watching and for commenting.
Your loss, really. Not even Motorola offers native Linux support. In a perfect world I would agree with you, but my love for radio outweighs my need to leave Windows behind.
I look at others but I think I will always have the 878. It's easy to use and that's good for and old guy like me. Thanks for doing these videos, Jason. Good job.
Yep, agreed
Happy Christmas Jason and thank you for all your work/videos.
My 878 came with a 3100 battery and the screens were all unlocked. Bought it last month, Feb 2020.
Several companies change up accessories when they sell this and other radios. Glad you got the larger battery.
Mine didn't had such problem with lock keyboard out of the box.
I own it couple of days and it is a great video.
It is very important to set your Code Plug correctly.
Maybe these are just the later models, not sure.
Thank you for you great review for this radio. I am about to purchase one thanks to your video. Greetings from the south part of the Netherlands 73's PD1VCC
Thanks for watching
I just got my AT-D878UV two days ago and I love it! I'm a total beginner to DMR but if I can figure out how to program it properly before the Texas Statewide Net tonight (23 Jan. 2019) I'll be sure to check in. 73 de K5GHA
Hope to hear you out there!
Next time you talk to Anytone reps could you please ask them to stick a surveillance mode in it that allows the backlight to not come on under any circumstance other than a programmable side key press?
Also have better volume control on the fm music function that is way louder on my 868 than the ham audio.
Also see if they would do a DMR trunking control channel based scan for connect plus capacity plus?
I purchased an extra battery from bridgecom and to my surprise came with a belt clip. No changing at all!
That is good to know! Thanks for the comments.
I think you have convinced me to stick to tube radios or simple HT's of the last century ... My God I cannot remember to program my Icom ID-51 and my old 78 year old mind just goes blank with this DMR stuff. I am joking just a bit, but lets face it what a way to get a radio working just to talk to someone....73
Not that you are wrong, because you aren't..but people also complain that Baofeng and Wouxun radios are too hard to program. It doesn't really matter how hard/easy it is, someone will always complain. Baofeng radios are simple. DMR is definitely more complicated than programming an analog radio, but some of the most complicated programming I have ever done was on an Alinco HT. Those menus didn't make any sense.
I guess my only point is that it doesn't take a DMR radio to make a complicated programming menu.
I appreciate everything you do for the hobby and to generate interest.
Maybe you can do a video regarding P25? Or tips and tricks for programming and using commercial radios?
I'm working on a P25 video, yes. Thanks for watching.
in love with this radio. I would like to get it from Santa ;-) 🎄🎄🎄🎁🎁 🌨🌨🌨🌨 73!
Łukasz K. Me too! KB3MVR
Anytone now packages the firmware, and the CPS software together. Each update has everything needed to get your radio ready.
Correct, but they have done that for a while now.
Thanks Jason for the help full video / vlog 👍👌👍
Thanks for watching
HAPPY NEW YEAR JASON FROM N3NDX,, QUESTION,,, OUT OF THE THREE RADIO,S THE ANYTONE D868/ D878 AND THE BTECH RADIO LOOK A LIKE,, WHITCH ONE DO YOU RECOMMEND I SHOULD CHECH OUT???? ALSO DO YOU STILL HAVE THE KENWOOD DAUL BAND MOBILE RADIO?? 01-05-2019-2:11 A.M. THANKYOU
I'm liking the 878 right now, but any of those are good rigs. Which Kenwood do you mean?
@@HamRadio2 THE KENWOOD MOBILE THAT CAN DO NXDN, AND DMR.
@@HamRadio2 IT IS THE KENWOOD NX-5800.. THANKYOU.
The Kenwood NX5800 is NOT dual band, so that is why I asked what you were referring to. But yes, I do still have that radio and I will be doing another video on it soon, and installing it in my truck.
Will there be a updated 878UV v3 with faster cpu and more user friendly vfo mode for analog use with dtmf.
I've not heard of any such planned device
According to the Powerwerx website, locking the keypad is required by FCC 47CFR90.203. I haven't checked it out yet, though. -- Mark, KE6BB
In your opinion, which is the best DMR RADIO? & which do you have?
The Anytone models are all quite good, along with the BTECH 6X2 and the Alinco. Realistically all of these radios are the same, internally.
thank's
Jason, great first look at the 878. I picked one up two weeks ago and am making my first foray into DMR. Would love to see more on this radio and the 'secrets of the code plug', how to access a DMR repeater (is it as easy as I think it should be?) and accessing talk groups. Thanks much for the informative videos, KN4PHU. BTW mine came with the 3100mah battery.
Good job! ty Jason
4,000 Memory Channels, 10,000 DMR Talk Groups, 150,000 Digital Contacts, 250 zones, up to 250 channels per zone. WOW! breaking out of the 16 ch per zone! This will be my next.
ALL dual band DMR radios have broken out of the 16 channel zone limit. That's a thing of the past.
From the user manual for Anytone AT-D878UV Page 37: "radios ship from the manufacturer "Keypad"locked per FCC rules."
My point with other comments to the like are - there is no FCC rule for AMATEUR radios to have the keypad locked. This radio is marketed and sold as an Amateur Radio, not commercial one. Commercial radios aren't usually dual band, and they don't incorporate APRS. So they are making it for the Amateur Community and putting a Part 90 label on it to appease the FCC, but there are other ways to appease the FCC for an actual Amateur Radio, rather than making it Part 90.
Having said that, it is good to know that this radio can also be used on MURS and GMRS frequencies, since it is truly Part 90.
But making it Part 90 allows actual commercial use, increasing their potential buying pool.
Since you mentioned you are in contact with AnyTone . Could you ask them to produce a Tri Band with all the bells and whistles of the 878. I am impressed with this radio. But, I am interested in Tri Bands.
Jason Merry Christmas from a big fan off Holland
Merry Christmas Jason
Please Please do a full review of the Analog APRS. Would love to know exactly how well that works on receive as well. If it works stand-alone this will absolutely be the next HT i buy.
Yeah that's my plan
The APRS only transmits, It does not receive Analog APRS. It does "ranging" on Digital which is a point to point APRS between two radios but that is as close as it gets at this point. De Chuck K0XM BridgeCom Systems.
I have used analog APRS works great. Like bridgecom said transmit only.
Awesome. So we're halfway there. The first Chinese HT that can do full-fledged analog APRS is going to be a HOT seller. I hope they can get one made, i'm not excited about paying $300 plus but it may be the only way.
Same goes for a fully-integrated APRS Mobile that can Digi-peat.
@@jphillips260 Totally agree, I have an anytone coming tomorrow, I just learned today that it does not receive. Shipping it right back, and have to stick with my Mobilinkd for now. Disappointing.
TODAY IS 12-26-2018-8:52 P.M. AND I AM LISTENING TO A DMR STATE WIDE TRAFFIC NET,, AND COULD SWEAR THAT I JUST HEARD YOU CHECK INTO THE NET.. THIS IS N3NDX, JUST WONDERING...
Yes, if you are listening to the original Texas Statewide 3148 Talkgroup, then that is a Net that I started myself about 4 years ago. It runs every Wednesday evening at 7:30pm CST. For more info, visit DMRTexas.net
FCC Requirement states that the Part 90 Type Approved radios can not be keypad programmed until unlocked.
This has been discussed already in previous comments... but my reply is still the same...even though this is a Part 90 radio, it is marketed as an AMATEUR radio
I can't wait to get mine to replace my 868!
Great review !!!
Thanks for watching
merry christmas
Since it is a FCC type approved part 90 commercial radio, that is the requirement. It has to be locked so no "unauthorized personnel" can program it. FYI, you also have to use the same CPS version installed on your computer to use the incorporated firmware update.
Since it is marketed as an Amateur Radio, that really doesn't make sense. You're not wrong about the Part 90 part, but dual band radios are made and marketed for the Amateur community, not commercial.
Also I was using the latest CPS and Firmware from Anytone, so no reason they shouldn't match.
@@HamRadio2 I noticed that even on Bridgecom's web site they are marketed under both. The manufacturer doesn't know where any particular radio will be sold so it just makes sense to ship it as a part 90 radio (to appease the FCC) but include the programming cable so it is easy to just download and install the CPS software, connect the programming cable, change the code plug to unlocked, reprogram and done. Some re-sellers that deal only in the amateur radio market may do it before they sell the radio as a perk for buying from them as long as it is clear that it is to only be sold to licensed operators.
@@mike95826 Makes sense, but also the manual is wrong. I got a reply from Anytone, and they acknowledged the mistake and are working to fix it.
Does Part90 implie the radio is not Field Programmable ?
It means you can lock the radio out from being FPP, if you choose to.
I wish they would release a firmware update to allow the 868 to have a black screen.
Doesn't the 878 have a feature that pulls a user or learns a user callsign from ther DMRID with out you haven't to constantly update your HT? Maybe I'm misremembering.
I've heard of that but never tested it. The userid part
Dapper Ribbit The 868 knows about black screen which shows in boot up and programming.
@@kd7kdc I'm not following. I know the screen can be black when you turn it on but I haven't seen a way to make the home screen black like the 878 has
Dapper Ribbit I am just saying it should be just a firmware update since the 868 can already do it.
It's called Talker Alias and the 878 does support it. However it does not completely eliminate the need for the user database. The transmitting radio needs to be capable of sending the talker alias information. Like D-star and Fusion do. Since many of the DMR radios hams are using don't have the talker alias function and cant send the information. The 878s talker alias on receive would have nothing to show. in that case it reverts to the user database. I think a lot of hotspots will send the talker alias information if the radio dosn't have the feature. But that would help a radio without the feature working thru a repeater. So in my view talker alias can fill in some of the gaps, but user databases won't go away anytime soon.
Is it possible to send analog APRS messages? I need this feature for the SOTA spot. vy 73 de Matt HB9FVF
I've not found a way to do that yet, no. It wouldn't surprise me to see this is a later firmware though.
Thanks for great videos. Did they added APRS messaging already? It's great to be able to send mails and send and receive sms via gateways ie. When celluar in your area is down. This is the only thing I'm missing in AT 878 to consider it instead of Kenwood d74. Thanks! 73
Mine didn't come with a locked screen. I was able to use it and program it from the screen without any issues. I'm also able to lock and unlock the screen very easily
Some folks have said theirs were locked, some said it wasn't. It seems inconsistent.
So please let us know if the APRS Really works. Looking on APRS.FI but not sure what call and ssid to be looking for!
I haven't actually used it yet, gonna wait until I get a codeplug loaded. Should be soon
From what I understand it only supports positioning. No messaging etc.
Hello Jason, here is IU2ARQ from Milan, Italy......nice to write to you for the fist time and obviously nice to meet you. I have a real doubt about more DMR transceiver. Is the first time that i have experience with DMR radios.....i have a question for you, please, for a beginner......wich kind of dmr radio i must buy? Thanks a lot for the answer and please tell me some dmr radio i can buy.....maybe Btech 6X2....AnyTone AT-D878UV.....AnyTone AT-D868UV......Retevis RT3S GPS version......or something different, please help me to choose one before i become crazy ......Thanks a lot and sorry for my bad English.....American.....what kind of language is....Anyway.....if you can answer to me, please do it!!!!! Many thanks and 73'S from Italy.
Hi, thanks for commenting.
I am not familiar with a couple of those models you mention, but I have been really happy with the Anytone radios. Both the 868 and 878 seem to be very solid and would make good choices for you.
73
@@HamRadio2 thanks a lot for your answer.... Ok now I have no doubt about.....i will go to buy an Anytone.....i think 868 model because I am a beginner and I know just few things about dmr radios. So, thanks again and my best regards to you and I will follow your reviews. Thank you very much indeed!!! 73's de IU2ARQ, ITALY.
The keypad is locked because of their interpretation of FCC rules regarding radios being able to be programmed FPP for Public Safety.
Yes, that has been stated several times already. But still, this radio is made and sold as an Amateur Radio, not a commercial Part 90 radio.
Locking the screen in order to force people to read the manual is a pretty baller move. To bad the manual is terrible tho. Lmao
Indeed
MERRY CHRISTMAS JASON! Keep up with the reviews and unboxing segments. For every complaint there's a hundred happy viewers. No complaints here de Rich KG5RBG, Conroe.
Merry Christmas, Rich! 73
Will this radio do APRS over brandmister like the Hytera/Moto radios do???
I'm told they will, but never tried it.
your audio sounds funky in this vidio. had to turn my volume way down. interested in this radio. thanks for the info.
The audio is the same as other vids. Levels are also the same
I tried to setup the analog APRS, but it just doesn't work. Are you actually able to see your positions on APRS.fi?
I haven't tried it that far yet - I need to get my codeplug loaded first, then I will try carrying the radio around and see if APRS works
@@HamRadio2 Any update? APRS uses AX.25. I don't think programming the APRS frequency to FM alone will work in connecting to the APRS.fi. I am curious to know the status of this analog connection. Good job on the video. Thanks.
@@johnpimd8966 Haven't had time to mess with it anymore but programming the frequency into the radios SHOULD make it beacon your info, which can be caught by an igate or digipeater, and those TX to APRS.fi
@@HamRadio2 WHat should the destination callsign be?
Hi and Merry Christmas!
So... Btech 6x2, Anytone D868, Anytone D878... pretty much same rig? I was leaning towards a Btech as it comes with 2 batteries and the radio seemed like a D868 upgrade. Still haven't made a decision.
SUPER BIG DRAWBACK... for me >>> Windows-only-based programming software
No, not the same since the 878 has true APRS and the others don't.
It isn't the vendors keeping CHIRP and RT Systems from making software for these radios, it is those 2 companies. I spoke to RTD at Hamcom, they claim it is too complicated.
I don’t think Chirp works with any DMR radios.
@@patrickyoung5348 Chirp was just an example, it runs on linux... the software can be proprietary so long as it runs cross-platform... I'm just not up for keeping a Windows computer around for radio use. That's all I was getting at.
@@patrickyoung5348 it doesn't
If you need a built in repeating function get the BTech, but you will loose roaming capability. If not get the 878. :) 878 also has some hardware upgrades.
Hi Jason, I was holding myself as I didn't want to watch your review of the AT-D878UV before I was finished doing mine. We have to discover the radio by ourselves to make it more genuine, hihi. I posted it today, so now I could watch yours, good job by the way. I'm not sure, but I think mine was locked as well, since I used the software right away it probably went unnoticed, but I can imagine that we I will get the question about this in the future. Thanks for the info. We could make a video together in 2019, how about calling DX on 20 meters together, that would be cool and different from DMR, hihi. Happy new year to you and your family. 73 from Canada, Pascal VA2PV.
Hey Pascal, yes I saw your Anytone video post the other day. I haven't watched it yet, but it is on my watch list.
Yes I would be happy to do a video with you in 2019, I think collaboration with other Ham Radio shows is a great thing.
@@HamRadio2 Cool, I suggested 20M because you've mentioned that you wanted to do other types of ham radio video. But it could be any mode. Where do you hang out in DMR, C4FM? Let me know. 73 Pascal VA2PV
So... I have to plug this radio into a computer before I can use it? I assume the programming software is Windows only? I only have a Linux based computer these days, so does that mean this radio is just a brick to people like me?
As stated in the previous comments.... yes it is locked due to the radio's Part 90 status. And no DMR software works with Linux, you need a Windows machine to use any of the CPS for any DMR radio, including Motorola.
@@HamRadio2 editcp is available for Linux, but is of course 3rd party. It is definitely better than the OEM software though.
Can you do aprs messaging?
Not that I have seen. That could be a feature enhancement request
You need to be cautious that you maintain compatibility between the Firmware number and the CPS number. It appears to me that you were using CPS version 1.07 and Firmware version 1.09. You need to use CPS 1.09 if you have upgraded to Firmware 1.09.
I never use the manual right out of the box. Never. And I worked in IT support for several years where I chastised others that they should RTFM. My bad.
MINE CAME WITH THE 3100 MAH BATTERY.
Good, glad to hear that
My 878 is an hour or two away, waiting for it to arrive....
Well, radio did arrive safely, very pleased with it. Spent many happy hours messing about with codeplugs to make one that suited me.
I was reading on the Bridgecom site that it had to be unlocked prior to use. I also saw that it was Part 90 certified. That’s probably why it’s locked from the factory.
Merry Christmas de Nk3ps
Yea this was discussed several threads ago. The radio is marketed to Amateurs, but labeled Part 90. Part 90 radios aren't usually dual band and APRS is an Amateur-used feature, so it doesn't make much sense to put Part 90 restrictions on an Amateur Radio, but that seems to be what they have done.
It has to be locked to be part 90 certified. That's what I heard anyway
Yes that is correct. When the radio first released, it wasn't clear that the Part 90 version and that "Ham" version were the same radio. As it turns out (and I have mentioned in subsequent videos too) there are features you can turn off and on in the software to allow this radio to go back and forth in being Part 90 compatible. But yes...you are correct about it needing to be locked to be certified.
@@HamRadio2 Awesome, well at least my sources are good. Anyway, love the videos. Keep it up. Do you use your AT 878UV still or have you upgraded? If you do, maybe think about doing a quick recap video on what you've learned about it since you first started using it. I have had mine for just at a year, and I use it for warehouse work. It is an amazing radio that I am still learning things about. You know way more than me, so you probably have tips and tricks that would help out a lot of people.
@@OG_Zlog I still use mine. There is no upgrade option at this time, imo. The Anytone is the top of the market for dual band DMR HTs in Ham Radio right now. Great idea about an update video - I have done 1 or 2 already like that, where I update software and talk about changes, but I could do one that talks about things I have learned and my usage in the real world. Thanks for dropping by.
My Baofeng earphone works good on it, too.
Are there any way to program a dmr
Not sure I understand what you mean
What kind of cigars you got in that box back there? And when your done with that 878 I’ll take it 🤪🤪
All kinds. My favorite is the Arturo Fuente Añejo.
Can u do some p25 radio reviews
AT 7th LIKE, CAN I HAVE THAT RADIO???????? JUST KIDDING,, MERY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR..FROM N3NDX ON 12-24-2018.. GOD ALMIGTHY YEHOVAH BLESS YOU, AMEIN...
I don't like Anytone, Alinco, or Baofeng, because they have no compatible AES 256 Encryption. Obviously I would never utilize that in Amateur Radio, but in Commercially Licensed areas, I very much need that.
None of those companies actually make a commercial radio, so it makes sense they don't have that level of encryption
@@HamRadio2 I should have added to my reply, Retevis solved the problem with their RT-3s, which I believe is likely the same as a TYT MD-380 U/V. It offers the user to select between his Amateur Profile and encrypted Commercial or Law Enforcement Profile. In Amateur Profile, your Callsign and DMR ID is transmitted and it's all in the clear. When you select the others, that assigned ID is transmitted and AES 256 works just fine.
@@hbryant1971 That is good to know. Is it FCC Type Accepted?
Part 90, according to them.
@@HamRadio2 Indeed it is; my Retevis RT3S HTs are Parts 90 and 95 . They have the FCC seal and id number on the back under the battery. My Alinco DJ-MD5TGP is Part 90 certified. My Radioddity RD-5R has an FCC seal, but I don't see the FCC ID number, so that one may be "Ify".
Can I send you an email? I have a Few questions and supporting documents That help explain my questions
Sure, I am good on QRZ
Please stop calling APRS analog, It’s digital with a different modulation! If you would like to know more I will be happy to explain it. Also thank you for the video.
Once again, when did I call it analog?
Ham Radio 2.0 Yes you called analog. My suggestion DMR be called DMR-APRS, DStar-APRS, and the rest like that. APRS is based on packet radio a digital Transmisson. Also merry Christmas!
@@thuff3207 I didn't call it analog, you should watch again. I said you can choose between analog and digital for which APRS you want. It'll TX APRS over 144.390 analog or it'll TX over DMR. Kenwood 710G radios, which have APRS, are fully analog radios. APRS may be a digital type of transmission but it's transmitted either analog or DMR.
@@HamRadio2 I think he's referring to 16:45
Hi bor ur cool
Is anyone using DMR APRS?
Yes there are people using it. Mostly through Pi-star, I believe.
WHAT A FUNNY VIDEO?????
Not sure if that's a question or statement
@@HamRadio2 HELLO JASON,, THAT WAS MEANT TO BE A COMMENT, ON HOW FUNNY YOU WERE ACTING IN THE VIDEO.. THE WAY YOU WERE RESPONDING TO THE RADIO NOT COOPERATING WITH YOU TO UNLOCK THE KEY PAD..THAT ACTUALLY HAD ME LAUTHING... I PROBABLY SPELLED THAT WRONG ,, OH WELL..FUNNY VIDEO..
@@robertoellison348 haha 73
I thought these Chinese radios were banned by the FCC. I got rid of all my ham radio gear anyway.
Nope, not banned. Especially not the ones that are Part 90 type accepted, like this one is.
Sorry you are leaving the hobby.
The reason the units shipped to the US have the front panel programming locked out is to avoid any part 90 violations. I’m sure it is a CYA move after the FCC came down on other Chinese radios. Jayson you only needed to turn off the force lock option. By turning off keyboard lock option you disabled the manual keypad lock to prevent accidental button pushes. To unlock from a manual keyboard lock you press the green menu button then * (the poorly translated menu says Function button, it should have said menu)
@@patrickyoung5348 Yes, that's been discussed in the previous comments but my response still stands. The radio is marketed to Amateurs, being that its dual band and has APRS.
@@HamRadio2 If who the radio is "marketed" to was all that mattered in the eyes of the FCC, then Icom, Yeasu, Kenwood could import and sell their amateur rigs with transmit opened beyond the ham bands. Since they are locked to the ham bands they don't need a cert. NOT because of who they are "marked" to. Same reason it's illegal for us to unlock a one of there radios without a MARS/CAP cert. Anyway that's my understanding. I enjoy your videos thanks for all the work you put into the channel.
It is NOT illegal to MARS mod a radio, that is why most of your big vendors will do it for you, for a fee.
Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu still need a "cert" or at least they need approval from the FCC to sell their rigs. They can't just make any old junk and lock the bands down, then sell it. FCC doesn't work that way.
Thanks for watching and for commenting.
As long there is no NATIVE linux support, I will never buy any digital radio ...
Your loss, really. Not even Motorola offers native Linux support. In a perfect world I would agree with you, but my love for radio outweighs my need to leave Windows behind.
Does Icom Yaesu or Kenwood offer native Linux programming? I don’t recall seeing anything but windows software for them.