I Can't Afford It! Asus ROG Matrix Platinum GeForce RTX 4090 Review

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  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +419

    Okay so I spoke with Asus today, bit of a mix up on the pricing. For whatever reason the $3,999 US they gave me was the Australian price converted to a US price, which is super confusing and doesn’t really make sense. I did ask for the US MSRP. Anyway, it’s meant to be $3,200 US which changes nothing in the review, other than the quoted price. Sorry for the confusion, Asus did apologize and said this one is on them.

    • @ZomgZomg007
      @ZomgZomg007 11 місяців тому +11

      ah $4000AUD lol thats insane.
      On a off note i noticed your chapters seem a bit off, there is mention of Ratchet and Clank but thats Starfield/etc.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +64

      @@ZomgZomg007 no it will be well over $4000 AUD. They said $4000 US which is $6200 AUD.

    • @1ndrew
      @1ndrew 11 місяців тому +86

      Whew its only 3200 usd.

    • @dominicshortbow1828
      @dominicshortbow1828 11 місяців тому +5

      @@1ndrew Still Horrible. that's double the price than it's msrp!

    • @ZomgZomg007
      @ZomgZomg007 11 місяців тому

      @@Hardwareunboxed oh get f.... lmao.

  • @davidwagner3710
    @davidwagner3710 11 місяців тому +1487

    I was thinking it would be $2500, but $4000 is just laughable.

    • @AntonChekhoff
      @AntonChekhoff 11 місяців тому +114

      I laugh and tears flow freely. The pandemic and the crypto boom have really messed up lives of gamers.

    • @tresnugget
      @tresnugget 11 місяців тому +35

      3200... not much better

    • @AtheismF7W
      @AtheismF7W 11 місяців тому +10

      Didn't they drop prices on the 4060 ti and 4070?

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel 11 місяців тому +70

      Cheap!
      Just wait normal 5090 to be $4000!
      😂

    • @notafanboy250
      @notafanboy250 11 місяців тому +43

      I guessed $2200. Boy how wrong I was.

  • @ronjatter
    @ronjatter 11 місяців тому +746

    Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you can't unbox it.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +346

      THAT'S WHAT I SAID!

    • @GameBacardi
      @GameBacardi 11 місяців тому +50

      Opened box -> no return policy

    • @karlrxvegavargas6477
      @karlrxvegavargas6477 11 місяців тому +7

      And that's a fact😂

    • @michaelshelby7629
      @michaelshelby7629 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@@GameBacardi😂 then we can afford it. Everybody buy it, open it, send it back

    • @streamroller1974
      @streamroller1974 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Hardwareunboxeddoes Matrix have -300 chip or -301 (1.07v) chip ?

  • @Hardwareunboxed
    @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +156

    Quick note on the price, I asked Asus directly via email yesterday if they had an MSRP for the ROG Matrix yet and they replied with "the MSRP is $3,999USD." I know the ROG Store has it listed for $3200 US, but it's not listed anywhere else yet. I'll try and get clarification from Asus today on the price, but in any case it's still insane at $3200 US :D

    • @stevfell
      @stevfell 11 місяців тому +11

      4000?? Yikes.

    • @jksoftware1
      @jksoftware1 11 місяців тому +8

      You can still buy or come close to buying 2 4090 MSRP models for that price. lol

    • @j4y625
      @j4y625 11 місяців тому +6

      lol I didnt even pay 4k for my pc with a 4090 in it

    • @jooyichen
      @jooyichen 11 місяців тому +12

      A little more greed and it would've coincidentally named, the RTX $4090.

    • @Six_Gorillion
      @Six_Gorillion 11 місяців тому +9

      You can buy a pretty decent car for that money. Holy shit. How many Saudi princes are gaming these days even? Who is the market exactly?

  • @alexsnow5
    @alexsnow5 11 місяців тому +254

    I think the card looks absolutely amazing but but at that price, it's just insane. For that money you get a full i9 13900k, rtx4090, z790 maximus hero, 32 ddr5 pc with all the bells and whistles

    • @iulyan719
      @iulyan719 11 місяців тому +13

      That what i thought too, to pay 4k just for a few extra frames for this fancy new 4090 than the original one, that is a crazy thing to do.

    • @upforellie
      @upforellie 11 місяців тому +5

      You could do all of those with nearly a full custom loop for the same price. Absurd. The tubes on this thing are soooo long and you're going to have extra tubing everywhere. At least with a custom loop you can control that.

    • @1stRanger
      @1stRanger 11 місяців тому +12

      Nothing about this card is amazing except its price. It obviously meant to target brain dead customers with too much cash on their hands.

    • @tofu_golem
      @tofu_golem 11 місяців тому +1

      That price would be insane even if it cost the same as most other 4090 cards.

    • @rustyshakelford1466
      @rustyshakelford1466 11 місяців тому +5

      it really doesn't. I've seen much better AIO cards like the Toxic or even prior gen cards from Asus themselves. It's just a big piece of useless hollow metal frame that does nothing but take up space and make the product even more case restrictive.

  • @KaSTeTo0
    @KaSTeTo0 11 місяців тому +73

    +10% performance for +150% price
    sounds like a plan

    • @georgehill3087
      @georgehill3087 11 місяців тому +4

      @TheEasternQ-CC Where do I buy ticket to this parallel universe?

    • @fsisrael9224
      @fsisrael9224 3 місяці тому +1

      Not even %10, more like 4-5%

  • @SaviorInTheSun
    @SaviorInTheSun 11 місяців тому +47

    Gotta love Steve. “Let me do all of this super in-depth testing, but I found some other tests I could do that seemed like fun, so I tried those too.” This guy is a machine!

    • @NoName-rs4us
      @NoName-rs4us 11 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, i think hes the best hardware reviewer as well.
      ps. Thanks for full Aussie accent mode...i dont mind it 👍

  • @andrzejpatek4557
    @andrzejpatek4557 11 місяців тому +20

    Considering that liquid metal will corrode copper coldplate over time, the cryosheet seems like the best choice here. Glad you included different compound results

    • @Penfolduk001
      @Penfolduk001 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes DeBauer raised this issue in his review.
      Apparently Asus are basically saying "Trust Us Bro". Which isn't too reassuring.

  • @Alvin853
    @Alvin853 11 місяців тому +1046

    Yay more expensive GPUs is exactly what everyone has been waiting for

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +630

      Yeah but... hear me out.... this one is wayyyyyyyy more expensive.

    • @1Grainer1
      @1Grainer1 11 місяців тому +28

      @@Hardwareunboxed but is it more expensive than 4090ti or 5090?
      edit: just got to the end, you got an audible laugh, and getting that from not funny thing is feat on its own

    • @shagohodds
      @shagohodds 11 місяців тому

      In that case my left kidney will find a new home!@@Hardwareunboxed

    • @thalo215
      @thalo215 11 місяців тому +83

      ​@@Hardwareunboxedhey Jensen said the more you buy, the more you save....

    • @thedivide3688
      @thedivide3688 11 місяців тому +18

      There’s always the luxury crowd. Meant for the rich, not average joe. You know the kind that buy Rolls-Royce crowd.

  • @Kelekona_808
    @Kelekona_808 11 місяців тому +289

    The cooling compound testing was a nice idea. The Cryosheet was pretty impressive in its performance.

    • @Simonsavvi
      @Simonsavvi 11 місяців тому +11

      Right? I knew it would compete and surpass typical paste but I never expected it to be this good compared to LM

    • @CaraesNaur
      @CaraesNaur 11 місяців тому +13

      As derBauer pointed out, the cooling plate is bare copper not nickel plated, which means the liquid metal will suffuse into it over time. It would then seem that tearing this card down to install a CryoSheet is inevitable.

    • @DoctorrMetal
      @DoctorrMetal 11 місяців тому

      I was, but i'm not sure the results are good. Not really seem to make any sense imo. Should kryosheet perform better than hydronaut, in what world does this make sense?

    • @whismerhillgaming
      @whismerhillgaming 11 місяців тому

      I'm actually surprised how much more efficient the kryosheet is over regular thermal paste
      I mean, liquid metal is just not interesting anymore at that level

    • @Simonsavvi
      @Simonsavvi 11 місяців тому +4

      @@whismerhillgaming ye if a thing I can just place on the GPU/CPU with no hassle nets 7C difference, what's the point? Unless you're doing extreme stuff I don't see why you would choose LM over it.

  • @SPSteve
    @SPSteve 11 місяців тому +28

    The price is crazy high, but just the same, it's fun to see these types of products reviewed so we can at least see them in action. Kudos to Asus for making it and all of the 15 buyers who will enjoy one.

    • @m0rianne
      @m0rianne 11 місяців тому +4

      I've sold over 15 from my store already -.-

    • @RealistRatRace
      @RealistRatRace 10 місяців тому

      @@m0riannewth

    • @KenoKere
      @KenoKere 7 місяців тому +1

      @@m0rianne Same it sells at around 3000$ at the moment. Not a lot of buyers, but it constantly sells. I personally think of either buying this as upgrade from 3080 rog OC, or wait to see what Asus does for RTX50xx series.

  • @cheezus4772
    @cheezus4772 11 місяців тому +31

    That price tag is such a huge disappointment! The $4090 price tag was there for the taking and they completely missed it

    • @stuartfury3390
      @stuartfury3390 9 місяців тому +4

      Why would they price it so low?

  • @yaldabaoth2
    @yaldabaoth2 11 місяців тому +270

    This one should absolutely be the benchmark in cost per frame on every graph going forward.

    • @DailyCorvid
      @DailyCorvid 11 місяців тому +23

      Definitely the most powerful card without conditions being setup.
      You can also make it cost effective, if you use it to render the plan you drew up.
      For robbing the Federal Reserve in order to buy it! :)

    • @geiers6013
      @geiers6013 11 місяців тому +4

      Please do it Hardware unboxed, just for the fun hahaha

    • @CommanderBeefDev
      @CommanderBeefDev 11 місяців тому +2

      they cant, its so bad its a one off and they usually remove outliers due to averages sake

    • @Lebon19
      @Lebon19 11 місяців тому +1

      Just to explode the graphics out of proportion? lol

    • @CommanderBeefDev
      @CommanderBeefDev 11 місяців тому

      nvidiaception has begun, the masses are already fooled@@Lebon19

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname4566 11 місяців тому +46

    The KryoSheet performance is extremely impressive!

    • @DavidTrejo
      @DavidTrejo 11 місяців тому +3

      Yeah I’m sold too. The regular TG has been great but I’m definitely looking to upgrade.

  • @Vladek16
    @Vladek16 11 місяців тому +15

    only a 2°C gap between the pad and the liquid metal ? damn that's some really good information.
    Those pads are so much easier to use (no risk of shorts, no drying, no diffusion inside copper...). With such a little temperature delta they will be my go-to choice from now on.

    • @stanimir4197
      @stanimir4197 11 місяців тому

      I my experience liquid metal it does no dry, however it gets absorbed/diffused in copper and nickel. I suppose in couple of years I can report the 10y and few applications on 6700k IHS, how 'fast' with absorbs with each application.

    • @Exiled_Raven
      @Exiled_Raven 11 місяців тому

      As a heads-up: Those kryosheet pads are electrically conductive though, fyi.

    • @ashryver3605
      @ashryver3605 11 місяців тому

      It's because the gpu die is enormous compared to a cpu, it's not really needed to liquid metal a gpu. Most run really cool already, and the huge die makes it so there isn't as much to move in a concentrated area. It's cool, and it helps, but it's not like a CPUs 8-25 degree drop (depending on generation)
      Cooling the core also doesn't help memory ocing either

  • @andyo8141
    @andyo8141 11 місяців тому +10

    The newer 4090 silicon (AD102-301) is voltage-limited to just 1.070v. This is one reason later cores do not overclock as well as release-day silicon (AD102-300), which could utilise 1.1v. On the plus-side, the newer cores seem to run cooler at same voltage.

    • @iP1sano
      @iP1sano 11 місяців тому +4

      Nobody has tried it on this specific model but there's a tool to flash 1.1v BIOS on 1.07v models called "nvflashk" (not to be confused with the regular nvflash). In the Matrix in particular I fear (this is 100% my speculation) that you need to run its own BIOS to get proper fan speed and RGB control. Or maybe not.

    • @mauritos100
      @mauritos100 11 місяців тому

      what bios is used and what is the voltage for 4 ghz with ln2??

  • @The11devans
    @The11devans 11 місяців тому +63

    Holy SHIT that price!!!! I was thinking a "reasonable" maximum high-end 4090 could reach 2,500, maybe, but 4000??? That's beyond insane

    • @SYNTHBREAK
      @SYNTHBREAK 11 місяців тому

      no ones making u buy this, if price is a problem its not for you lmao, you have other cheaper cards this is for OC'ers, benchmarkers, not you buddy

    • @The11devans
      @The11devans 11 місяців тому +1

      What a strange reply. Enjoy your new card, I guess. Unless you can't afford it either?

  • @Mark__A
    @Mark__A 11 місяців тому +28

    For $4k at least they should make the memory cooling better than the previous ones. Also Der8auer mentioned the raw cooper and liquid metal contact will be problematic over time...

    • @inkredebilchina9699
      @inkredebilchina9699 11 місяців тому

      yeah, but they're Asus. for the brave amongst us. 😂😂😂😂

    • @iP1sano
      @iP1sano 11 місяців тому

      I have my FE 4090 in a custom loop and I had to use bad thermal pads on the VRAM chips on purpose, otherwise I would get worse clocks/stability than on air. I know it sounds weird but if you do search around you'll find other people who did the same, apparently GDDR6X likes to run on the warmer side (I don't personally call mid 70s hot)

    • @alhemmings8554
      @alhemmings8554 11 місяців тому +1

      But it's an Nvidia card, you're supposed to upgrade every cycle. To be honest, the kind of people dropping this kind of money to play games probably don't care about longevity all that much.

  • @truemyth3148
    @truemyth3148 11 місяців тому +3

    Someone get Hollywood on the line and get Steve a Oscar nomination for that straight face he kept when announcing the pricing. I don’t know how he did it but BRAVO!

  • @sebastianuhre525
    @sebastianuhre525 11 місяців тому +7

    I don't mind you doing this every once in a while. It is neat to see the crazy stuff at times. Even from you and you too should be able to have some fun playing around with stuff like this and of course you don't fail to show the performance so no one gets fooled that the price is actually worth it.

  • @vickie_g
    @vickie_g 11 місяців тому +120

    I thought 3000$ at most. 4k is truly insane pricing.

    • @amirtak9886
      @amirtak9886 11 місяців тому +34

      I bet ASUS was thinking "4K gaming for 4K $$$".

    • @Quicksilver1227
      @Quicksilver1227 11 місяців тому +14

      4k for 4k gaming is indeed insane price

    • @CommanderBeefDev
      @CommanderBeefDev 11 місяців тому +4

      they arent called ngreedia for nothing son

    • @amirtak9886
      @amirtak9886 11 місяців тому +3

      @@CommanderBeefDev I know Father

    • @sujimayne
      @sujimayne 11 місяців тому +4

      It's the pricing that makes the most sense. The kind of people that buy these graphics cards don't care if it's priced at 3k or 4k, so ASUS would just be losing out on potential profit by pricing it lower.

  • @eivisch
    @eivisch 11 місяців тому +22

    Sadly not even my kidney will be enough for this 4090

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel 11 місяців тому

      Just sell you famila as a slaves… and you may be able to affort this!
      😂😂😂

  • @alenkiu9886
    @alenkiu9886 11 місяців тому +2

    12:29 That facial expression is priceless!! 😂Great job on the review!

  • @jimbob3030
    @jimbob3030 11 місяців тому +2

    A top tier GPU like this should be in the $600 range.

  • @gawrbage
    @gawrbage 11 місяців тому +45

    If you want an absurd product, take a look at the Galax HOF 4090 that comes with TWO 12vhpwr connectors.

    • @Hardwareunboxed
      @Hardwareunboxed  11 місяців тому +114

      pfff that model's not even three grand, garbage!

    • @mrdali67
      @mrdali67 11 місяців тому +3

      @@Hardwareunboxed Still remember the first time We were putting a System together for a custommer With an Intel Pentium Extreme edition and 2 Nvidia GPU's in SLI and a ton of ram for that time and 2x 10.000 rpm Raptor disks. Always fun to build something you can't afford yourself 😄

    • @omargallo9636
      @omargallo9636 11 місяців тому

      any card lower than 10x my card price is absolute garbage @@Hardwareunboxed

    • @EarthIsFlat456
      @EarthIsFlat456 11 місяців тому

      At least with that card you can do some crazy OC if you want, but this card is pretty meh when it comes to OC.

    • @MrDgt66
      @MrDgt66 11 місяців тому +1

      HasselHOF edition!

  • @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep
    @StefanEtienneTheVerrgeRep 11 місяців тому +44

    I love it when manufacturers try to say things like "two and a half slots" You're right, it doesn't matter if its 2.5, 2.2., 2 and 1/3 slots. Either way, that 3rd slot gets taken. Its like when people tell me they have 2 1/2 kids. What the hell does that mean? Do you HAVE 3 KIDS OR NOT?! I don't care how old they are. 3 kids, 3 mouths to feed, 3 butts to wipe,

    • @Z3t487
      @Z3t487 11 місяців тому +6

      I have 2.1 kids: 2 kids plus and arm and a leg of the third one.

    • @mcwolfbeast
      @mcwolfbeast 11 місяців тому +1

      In fact, anything over 1.9 or so will probably prevent you from using the third slot.

    • @mRibbons
      @mRibbons 11 місяців тому +11

      I see where you are coming from, but it does matter for sff builds. itx boards only have 1 pcie x16 slot, but itx cases may have 1, 2, or more slots for io or clearance. That extra 0.5 does matter. Vertical mounting also requires some consideration for card thickness a well. 👍

    • @inkredebilchina9699
      @inkredebilchina9699 11 місяців тому +2

      the only sense that "two and a half kids" statement makes is in the average of how many kids families have by data collected about habitants of a certain state/region/area. there was a 90s British sitcom named "2point 4 children " because at the time of shooting it was the British national average of kids. and no, there wasn't a 0.4 kid on the show. 😂
      also I completely agree with you. no matter how you put it, it's rendering 3rd slot unavailable.

    • @Lishtenbird
      @Lishtenbird 11 місяців тому +4

      I love it when casual commenters try to farm likes by mocking huge companies for things they're too casual to be even aware of. The exact height will matter for SFF builds, for vertical mounting, for modded builds, for tinker builds with extra PCIe cards that block air circulation, for weirder cases. And all it takes to inform all those enthusiasts is literally a dot and a digit.

  • @tonymorris4335
    @tonymorris4335 11 місяців тому +4

    The .5 slot designations are important for people who do ITX cases and builds. I have a lot of cases that will fit a 3.25 slot card but not a 3.75 slot card. So while yes, they both use "4 slots" they don't use 4 slots of space at the bottom of an ITX case.

  • @helljester8097
    @helljester8097 11 місяців тому +3

    Arguably the most useful info in the video: 8:43 I just finished my last tube of hydronaut but I just received a gpu water block, I decided to give the cryosheet a try but haven’t removed the stock cooler yet. Looks like it won’t be a bad idea after all looking at Steve’s results!

  • @mcwolfbeast
    @mcwolfbeast 11 місяців тому +7

    The value is entirely in bragging rights and overcompensation for feeling inadequate in... other respects XD

  • @chunnin33
    @chunnin33 11 місяців тому +54

    If they provided the GPU section with plugs for your own watercooling system that'd be cool

    • @arcadealchemist
      @arcadealchemist 11 місяців тому +1

      just waiting for solid state air cooling to get better

    • @1stRanger
      @1stRanger 11 місяців тому +5

      It wouldn't make any sense since it has its own pump and it's complete and utter trash for custom loop. Pretty much like in almost every AIO that was ever made.
      They'd have to use normal DDC pump, but they didn't even bother to create a decent waterblock and used thermal pads for heat transfer from everything but GPU.

    • @MrNelahem
      @MrNelahem 11 місяців тому +2

      You are better off getting a founder edition card then just replacing the stock cooler with a Alphacool Eiswolf 2 AIO - 360mm RTX 4090 Reference Design with Backplate. You will save $2000 in the process and have similar thermals. And Alphacool does give you options to convert or hook that up to an already installed water-cooling system.

    • @DDD-xx4mg
      @DDD-xx4mg 11 місяців тому

      It’s looks really nice, but temps are shit

  • @ZWortek
    @ZWortek 11 місяців тому +2

    Those Kryosheet numbers are insane, thanks for including that! I just ordered one for my 7950X3D to try it out a few days ago because it sounded super cool. I can't wait to install it now.

    • @DatHondaBoi223
      @DatHondaBoi223 9 місяців тому

      Where did you order it?

    • @ZWortek
      @ZWortek 9 місяців тому

      @@DatHondaBoi223I got mine off Amazon

  • @outlet6989
    @outlet6989 11 місяців тому +7

    Imagine what a SLI two Matrix GPU setup would look like if SLI was still available.

  • @ocha-time
    @ocha-time 11 місяців тому +36

    I really do love these hyper expensive SKUs of hyper expensive and overpriced graphics cards!!!!! And what a thrill to see it tied with its non-waterblocked counterparts!!!

  • @6reen6uy
    @6reen6uy 11 місяців тому +6

    They are out of their minds with that price. Holy hell.

  • @Navi_xoo
    @Navi_xoo 11 місяців тому +1

    When you said 4000 dollars US I was actually blown away. I wonder if this thing will sell.

  • @hifuncautismboi2350
    @hifuncautismboi2350 11 місяців тому +5

    I noticed you were able to get a stable 3ghz out of it while staying under the 450w stock TDP. Its clearly got decently binned silicone, i'm curious what kind of numbers it could push with the power draw slider pushed to 133%/600w

  • @performensch
    @performensch 11 місяців тому +4

    I'm surprised they used blank copper on the base plate. It will react with the gallium based liquid metal and will need replacement in 1-2 years.

    • @JohnSmith-oh9ux
      @JohnSmith-oh9ux 11 місяців тому +1

      before that you got to un-fuse gpu and block lmao

  • @micahsarm
    @micahsarm 11 місяців тому +6

    2 years later: RTX 5060ti has dlss 4 and beats 4090 for half the price.

    • @Dzugashvili
      @Dzugashvili 11 місяців тому +1

      5080ti*

    • @sombrabombra4042
      @sombrabombra4042 11 місяців тому

      800 USD for 5060ti sounds right about how they imagine future pricing levels

    • @haukikannel
      @haukikannel 11 місяців тому

      No… 2 years later 5060ti that is 5% faster that 3060ti! And cost only $800!
      You got it wrong!
      5090 will be 70% faster and it will cost $4000 so there is room to increase the low end prices allso!
      😂😂😂

  • @ryugaroxas
    @ryugaroxas 11 місяців тому

    You really did manage to keep a straight face at the end

  • @Hybrid330i
    @Hybrid330i 11 місяців тому +1

    I purchased a Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce, which is Gigabyte's equivalent AIO graphics card solution. The primary advantage of AIO-based graphics cards is the flexibility to position the radiator away from other components, especially when venting heat into the atmosphere rather than within the case. This same principle applies to CPU AIOs, where the goal is to exhaust heat into the atmosphere.
    The benefit of this setup is that the case temperature remains relatively low, preventing other components from being subjected to excessive AIo fan-generated heat. It's important to note that your case should be designed to facilitate this cooling approach. In my case, the Lian Li Lan Cool III proved to be an excellent choice for achieving optimal cooling performance.

  • @tomatoketchup1582
    @tomatoketchup1582 11 місяців тому +36

    GPU prices were fair up to RTX 2000 series. Prices today are insane. This is so sad.

    • @Z3t487
      @Z3t487 11 місяців тому +4

      I want to read comments like "Are you poor?" but i can't find them yet 😢

    • @0002pA
      @0002pA 11 місяців тому +4

      "were fair up to RTX 2000 series" - Absolutely not. If you genuinely think that, then the marketing from back then has worked on you.

    • @robertstan298
      @robertstan298 11 місяців тому +8

      Up to (but not including)
      Fk the RTX 2000 cards too

    • @oktusprime3637
      @oktusprime3637 11 місяців тому +3

      Nah, the RTX 20 series is when things got whack with a $1000 2080 Ti that didn’t exist (retail models were all $1100+).

    • @smileybroccoli6709
      @smileybroccoli6709 11 місяців тому

      It's not gonna get cheaper either. Before it was because of Bitcoin farms, now it is because of AI farms.

  • @Druze_Tito
    @Druze_Tito 11 місяців тому +8

    What a great moment to present the holy grail 4090 - in the eyes of the upcoming 5090. Genius!

    • @atavusable
      @atavusable 11 місяців тому

      They probably struggled with the board design and the metal liquid cooling.
      Now for the next card, they will make it faster.

    • @turtleman2217
      @turtleman2217 11 місяців тому

      What about the bare copper... Not nickel plated.

    • @Druze_Tito
      @Druze_Tito 11 місяців тому

      @@atavusable maybe. If it follows the same design layout and tdp. We'll see.

    • @atavusable
      @atavusable 11 місяців тому

      @@Druze_Tito If you have a 360 rad I doubt you can't handle any current GPU TDP.

  • @MTBScotland
    @MTBScotland 11 місяців тому +1

    That cryosheet seemed really good. Would like to see more of that on GPUs to see the diffrence.

  • @he2a
    @he2a 11 місяців тому +1

    I love it how sponsorblock just skipped to the highlight being $4000 then proceeded to skip the rest of video

  • @haukikannel
    @haukikannel 11 місяців тому +9

    Really interested about those cryo sheet tests!
    A solution that you newer have to fix/remake is what I hope for my rig. Now i use nano carbon sheet with 5800x3d and so far have been really happy with results… Next something to GPU…

  • @50H3i1
    @50H3i1 11 місяців тому +9

    It'd be cool if you looked at one of the water cooled 7900XTXs too they are crazy overclockers.
    (Asrock or Powercolor) sapphire's toxic version isn't out yet .

  • @docbrody
    @docbrody 11 місяців тому +1

    The last minute of that video was actually pretty funny.

  • @johnvandeven2188
    @johnvandeven2188 11 місяців тому +2

    I was wondering when the price would be dropped, had to wait towards the end. Well done Steve. It kept me glued to my little laptop and the price was forefront in my mind from the beginning. I surmised a possible $US3,000 price but $US4,000 simply blew me away and what is a ridiculous price for most will be bought and made out of stock very quickly by the nouvo rich. For us mere Aussies, the price is at least $6,000 or more depending on the greed of the retailer. Now I understand why Radeon will be manufacturing mid and lower range video cards on next their new RDNA release.

  • @emulation2369
    @emulation2369 11 місяців тому +3

    Rtx 4070 is around 750$ in my country, it's beyond insane ...

  • @T.xvii.17
    @T.xvii.17 11 місяців тому +8

    The frame it comes in is certainly pretty. I like it better than the usual Founder's Edition look.

  • @Kevin-ps1lf
    @Kevin-ps1lf 11 місяців тому +3

    The Cryosheet on my 6800XT Red Devil would be fun to try if I repaste it before upgrading. Works great as is but that cryosheet may become the next go to thermal solution with those results and no worries like liquid metal.

    • @MyouKyuubi
      @MyouKyuubi 10 місяців тому

      Yes, i love seeing the cryosheet getting more popular, lol... Hands down the best cooling solution ever invented, imho... for computer use anyhow. xD

  • @thecwwshow8036
    @thecwwshow8036 11 місяців тому +1

    That’s the most beautiful gpu I’ve ever seen. Can’t wait to see it in my build! In 15 years

  • @joeldoxtator9804
    @joeldoxtator9804 11 місяців тому +43

    The block design is actually quite disappointing.
    The water only touched the area over the core and that's it.
    At least with a custom block design, you would get water pathways over the memory and VRM areas of the card.
    This means that this card is not only ungodly expensive for what it is, but also a poor choice for ultimate cooling performance.
    A custom water block will also let you chose your own flow rates and radiator dissipation, so the ambient is really the limit.

    • @HyperScorpio8688
      @HyperScorpio8688 11 місяців тому

      It's exclusively for ultra whales who have more money than care in the world

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball 11 місяців тому +5

      ASUS want the memory to degrade and fail so Richy Rich goes out and buys the next ASUS rip off sooner rather than later. It is deliberately designed to shorten the product’s lifespan.

    • @cyxceven
      @cyxceven 11 місяців тому +5

      Not to mention it will develop overheating problems in a year once the LM has permeated the copper.

    • @PainterVierax
      @PainterVierax 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Squashed8Ball except Richy Rich won't get that. He got a guy like Kristofer Yee who just ordered a custom case with an open loop and a water distribution backplate.

    • @Squashed8Ball
      @Squashed8Ball 11 місяців тому

      @@PainterVierax semantics

  • @SteelGrayRider
    @SteelGrayRider 11 місяців тому +2

    I for one would love to see any testing you do with the Thermal Grizzly Kryosheets!

  • @Stewie801
    @Stewie801 11 місяців тому +2

    That kryosheet data is interesting! I put one on my 7800X3D. Would still be interested in seeing it on more GPUs. I dunno if I’ll ever take mine apart to put that in but a big enough decrease in temps would tempt me.

  • @CannedMan
    @CannedMan 11 місяців тому

    I’m glad to hear you stayed hydrated; that’s very important for your health.

  • @sirjonsmithiii992
    @sirjonsmithiii992 11 місяців тому +3

    Usually hate content that is outside my reach/something i would never consider buying. But this video does make buying a normal 4090 make a little more sense (which is very hard to do). Well played!

  • @m00nm00n
    @m00nm00n 11 місяців тому +6

    What a lovely price tag. I think I'll buy a few of them then. ;-)

  • @duffmcgruff2831
    @duffmcgruff2831 11 місяців тому +2

    Great vid! The only thing that would make this product better is if it came out in the GPU boom so we could see these things selling for 8k on eBay.

  • @Xcieg
    @Xcieg 8 місяців тому

    And the whole family can gather around it to warm up on a cold day.

  • @garminizator
    @garminizator 11 місяців тому +37

    I really miss cards like this despite the bad value proposition. This reminds me of those ASUS ARES and MARS models as well as that on-card AIO ASUS Matrix RTX 2080 Ti I believe it was? MSI too had some unique models back in the day with the GTX 780 Lightning and there were most certainly other cool GPUs on the market too, barely any of which we have these days.

    • @CrongTech
      @CrongTech 11 місяців тому +7

      NVIDIA locking voltage killed this insane over the top cards.

    • @JZF629
      @JZF629 11 місяців тому +10

      @@CrongTechthey did it because too many ppl would be stupid and fry their cards, then try and RMA them like it wasn’t their fault.

    • @mrdali67
      @mrdali67 11 місяців тому +2

      For what it is, it's a very nice looking card ,, but it also gotta be at that price, but absolutely redicolous that it's not even 1% faster than their own "normal" OC version for all that money, I'd rather buy 2x ROG Strix and make 2 Monster Gaming machines, one with a 7950X3D and one with a 14900K just because I could, to have a build for whatever is the fastest setup for each game 😂

    • @adonromadhon3630
      @adonromadhon3630 11 місяців тому

      we have? are you delusional?

    • @summushieremiasclarkson4700
      @summushieremiasclarkson4700 11 місяців тому

      @@JZF629 That was never an issue, those RMAs always get rejected. It's very easy to detect overvoltage damage. RMA logistics were always paid by the customer too.

  • @bb5307
    @bb5307 11 місяців тому +5

    I'm not dumb enough to spend 4 digits on a graphics card but it looks cool I guess as a science project.

  • @OntarioGuy430
    @OntarioGuy430 11 місяців тому +1

    The ROG matrix cards used to be my go to card - they were always so cool looking compared to the standard cards. With the way things overclock today and the cooling performance of most of the coolers - this is now a buy it if you like the way it looks type of card, that's about it.

    • @neoqueto
      @neoqueto 8 місяців тому

      Can't really blame Asus for that, for the last 10 years, generation after generation Nvidia had been locking down every OC setting possible and VBIOS. It's not just disappointing from a consumer choice standpoint, it makes cards much more boring too. Remember when any AIB (when we used to call them that) could add RAM onto their own PCB if they wanted to? These days they don't even have a say about the power configuration.

  • @RognisVornel
    @RognisVornel 11 місяців тому +1

    That's an incredible advertisement for the KryoSheet. I'd love to see more testing with it. In 10 seconds, I went from never considered to I'm probably going to buy. Further testing replicating the results here would turn me to a definite buy. Maybe an affiliate link in the future so you can get a cut of the purchases?

  • @ipotato95
    @ipotato95 11 місяців тому +5

    That’s a lot of price and weight just to get outperformed by the next gen 80 series

    • @VcSaJen
      @VcSaJen 11 місяців тому +1

      5080 will be equivalent of xx60 card, for the price of xx90 Ti.

  • @edbon7062
    @edbon7062 11 місяців тому +6

    Asus has a problem with prices and quality control, is not as bad as Gigabyte but they are getting there... but the real problem with Asus right now is unrealistic price vs features in their line of products.

    • @FenrirAlter
      @FenrirAlter 11 місяців тому +1

      Also dog shit Software, bad customer service(atleast in Germany) and pretty bad motherboards since years now. Which kinda also shows on the newer gpus if u look at the board

  • @Gribbous
    @Gribbous 11 місяців тому +1

    My issue with this is the fans are hooked up to the gpu so they have to conform to Nvidias hyper aggressive fan profile and looks really difficult to disconnect with the cables built into the pipes. Means this gpu isn't going to be any quieter than any other 4090. Temperatures aren't the problem with 4090's ( mine included) it's nvidias baked fan speeds making a stupid amount of noise at low power use.

  • @MisterFoxton
    @MisterFoxton 11 місяців тому

    You know it's a slow news week when we're all tuning in to watch a review of a 4090 that costs the same as two 4090s.
    Wake me up when September ends.

  • @lordgrape5015
    @lordgrape5015 11 місяців тому +6

    I think it would be cool if you could detach the toobs and hook it up to your own custom loop

    • @TripmasterG
      @TripmasterG 11 місяців тому

      Why? You could save over $2000 starting from scratch with a reference model 4090 and watercooling it. Good luck finding a plate that fits this custom PCB...

    • @lordgrape5015
      @lordgrape5015 11 місяців тому

      @TripmasterG No, I mean to keep the housing and block that's already on it and attach fittings to it to keep the look. Besides, I think this gen of Amd and Nvidia gpus are worth skipping. I'll consider an upgrade after seeing what the high-end 5090 and rdna 4 look like.

  • @TheGerudan
    @TheGerudan 11 місяців тому +1

    As long as you can't increase the Voltage you just can't get much more out of her. My "normal" 4090 runs stable at around 2955 MHz and that already seems to be the lower end of what you can expect pretty much any 4090 to reach. So as long as ASUS isn't binning the GPUs for this version especially, you might end up with a similar performance as anybody else with a 4090 for more than double the price.

  • @Rouladen1
    @Rouladen1 11 місяців тому +2

    They are INSANE over at Asus!
    The price point off 3200$ US, is just nuts....

  • @pocketsdsquirrel3207
    @pocketsdsquirrel3207 11 місяців тому

    You know that pit feeling you get in your chest when something happens? I felt that when he gave the price.

  • @tejay9416
    @tejay9416 11 місяців тому +1

    For those of you that havent been made aware if you're running really nice hardware with Starfield off an HDD you need to run it off an SSD if your experiencing a bunch of stuttering, switching from my 12TB Toshiba N300 to my WD Black SN770 pretty much erased all the stutters on my 3090 Ti LC and 10900K

  • @zzsgarage
    @zzsgarage 11 місяців тому +1

    Have you benchmarked the MSI Suprim Liquid X 4090? I have had one for about 5 months and I absolutely love it. I think the highest I've seen it hit was 62C with ambient at 22-24C. $1800 USD MSRP

  • @Macho_Man_Randy_Savage
    @Macho_Man_Randy_Savage 11 місяців тому +1

    looks well built and thought out. i'd pick one up but my 4090 rog strix does everything i need and oc's well and it's white! it would be great for someone who wants to get the best of he best, buy and forget for 10 years and have $4k less lol

  • @leoneldb60
    @leoneldb60 11 місяців тому

    Thank you HU! More tests with the Kryosheet would be awesome!

  • @Prophetian
    @Prophetian 11 місяців тому +1

    This price is meant to make 50 series a bargain. 5090 for only $3,000?! What a bargain.

  • @YUNGSKRRR
    @YUNGSKRRR 11 місяців тому

    The subtle laugh when your telling us the name of the card 😆😂

  • @macmi11i
    @macmi11i 11 місяців тому

    it's like watching car video's of cars you won't ever drive...I like it!

  • @MrBlueBrewer
    @MrBlueBrewer 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for your sacrifice. I'm looking forward to seeing more about these thermal sheets

  • @jakarhess7129
    @jakarhess7129 11 місяців тому +1

    ....So! The good news is we now know the baseline price for the normal 5090

  • @teox85
    @teox85 11 місяців тому +1

    For almost half the price you can do it by yourself with a custom watercooling and it will perform better

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers 11 місяців тому

      Another 4090 is not likely to perform better.

  • @dooshbag45
    @dooshbag45 11 місяців тому

    Steve has the biggest balls to be taking apart a $4000 US card!!! Good god thats eye watering!!!

  • @MrAnimescrazy
    @MrAnimescrazy 11 місяців тому +1

    This 4090 costs as much as my all white 4090 build. Damn.

  • @TheDM3002XTuber
    @TheDM3002XTuber 11 місяців тому

    Love that you still reviewed it!

  • @rockethot
    @rockethot 11 місяців тому

    The price gave Steve the thousand yard stare

  • @XellithUS
    @XellithUS 11 місяців тому

    When you said "Four.. thousand..dollars.. US" I snorted so gosh darn hard.

  • @Qalibrated
    @Qalibrated 11 місяців тому +1

    The card looks awesome, i really love their design choice. Buuuut... That price. Ouch. I could build one hell of a gaming system for that price, WITH a normal 4090 in it. I think i'll pass on the Matrix 🤣

  • @masterdna117
    @masterdna117 11 місяців тому +1

    "today were lookin at what can be best described as an absolute absurd product that makes no sense if you look at it from a value perspective"
    Could be talking about ANY current gen nvidia GPU really

  • @scottcondie1363
    @scottcondie1363 11 місяців тому

    Thanks for testing different thermal compounds, the kryosheet results were very surprising

  • @HeyMaruniko
    @HeyMaruniko 11 місяців тому

    "oh god, another black on black products, I think we need more lights on recording studio."

  • @mjc0961
    @mjc0961 11 місяців тому

    Appreciate the part about how it's a 3 slot card because you can't use half a slot. So true.

  • @a1superfantastic
    @a1superfantastic 11 місяців тому

    For me, this was more a video about TG's Cryosheets. I got one for my 5900X and 5800X 3D, and within 2-3 degrees of high end paste performance. I'm sold. Best part is, I can buy 160 of them for what I'd pay for one Matrix.

  • @ZeroHourProductions407
    @ZeroHourProductions407 11 місяців тому +1

    As succinctly as I can put it...
    It's a very pretty, finished product.
    But for $4000? You could literally buy a normal 4090, GPU block, liquid cooling gear for a custom loop, the liquid metal for the die (or one of those thermal sheets idk) all for less than Asus is asking for this. Hell, I could do a whole build with a 7900xt, for less than this thing.

  • @iseeyou1312
    @iseeyou1312 11 місяців тому

    4090 air coolers are already so overbuilt that watercooling delivers marginal performance improvements. It seems most of the improvement comes from using liquid metal instead of thermal paste.

  • @johnwiddifield8493
    @johnwiddifield8493 11 місяців тому

    Still rocking my Matrix Platinum R9 280X in one build but don't think I'll update it to this.......wow

  • @reggieosbourne
    @reggieosbourne Місяць тому

    It’s insane… what’s even more insane is I found a brand new in box Strix 4090 for 1200 Canadian…

  • @NeutronicalGaming
    @NeutronicalGaming 11 місяців тому +1

    The issue with this card, as with all 4090's really is you don't need absurd cooling because the stock coolers are monsters already so your gains are going to be marginal at best and could easily be matched with tweaking the stock settings and fancurves.

    • @KenoKere
      @KenoKere 7 місяців тому +1

      Indeed. The extra price (+50%) is more for the estethics, not for the 4-5% increase in performance.

  • @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432
    @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 11 місяців тому

    the msi suprim is $1800 in newegg right now. You can buy 2 of those and have $400 to spend on whatever you'd like.

  • @ArmchairMagpie
    @ArmchairMagpie 11 місяців тому

    Well, that was awkward. I had a RTX 20x0 with AiO once, when EVGA was still around and the whole thing was more affordable, and you really only want those cards for peace of mind on the hotter days and for the lower dust accumulation. As usual, the memory isn't included in the cooling circuit for some reason. In general, if you've got a good case, then there is no need for one.