@Ray and @Jasmine, please make a video about Ray learning the flute in one hour or Ray teaching Jasmine because she has played before. Would be very interesting to see what both of you find challenging about the other instrument. 🤔
As someone who plays both instruments it's hard to pick one side! It's so cool that my favourite flautist and my favourite violinist are such good friends!
Team flute! 🪈 🎵 I tried the violin and I agree with Jasmine that the flute was easier to learn. I still have my poor violin tucked in a closet for years 🎻 😢
I agree with you that flute is easier to learn at least in the beginning. But some music you can only make on the violin, so for me I can't decide which instrument😊
As an oboist, I will lose to violin 100% no one writes for me ;v;…My range is only like 2 and a half octaves 😂 at most and it isn’t accessible either it was so hard to find the model I wanted XD (Oh and since I am the only oboist ofc I’m supporting my flute besties on this side)
That’s sad. Violin is ridiculously hard but I think it helps to develop a deeper love for the instrument. The flute is beautiful, and bach badinerie is like my fave song, but I love my violin and wish more people could experience playing it. ❤️
Really nice collaboration~ Thank you for this video, it’s so useful! And I’d love to hear Ray Chen playing “Chant de Linos”😅, I’m very interested how it will sound))
What an amazing video! Thank you! I’d totally love to hear you duetting to showing the strengths of the two instruments (that kind of represent the (bowed) string instruments and the wind instruments) ❤
Regarding career opportunities, I definitely think it's more difficult for flutists. Even my flute teacher told me NOT to study flute and choose flute as a career and she ended up losing her job as a flute teacher because there were too little students. She studied in Paris and spend her whole life playing the flute, so it's really sad she struggled.
sad, but i kind of agree, regarding flute and career opportunities. Not to also mention the saxophonists and Clarinetists also doubling flutes in jazz scene, taking job security away from flautists. I play both, but will choose violin.
@@redbullrobert to be fair, flute was never a viable jazz instrument. Its cool in some pieces, but it was never popular enough for anybody in their right mind to take seriously
You two are a riot. :) I am a classically-trained reasonably competent amateur flutist (I never played a flaut in my life, thankyouverymuch). My grandfather, my uncle, my cousin and my sister all played violin, and I took it up in the 4th grade (for about 5 minutes). I wasn't interested in continuing. I had always wanted to try flute because I liked that it came in a small case. My sister's violin teacher actually sent a flute home with me once; I might have been 7 or 8 years old. I figured out how to put it together, blew on it like it was a bottle, and discovered that the only keys I could use to change the note were the trill keys. Fast forward to when I was 12. My grandmother offered to pay for lessons and of course I picked the flute. High school and college concert bands followed. In college I decided I was not going to pursue a professional career. So I just play here and there for fun.
I think if you look beyond the type of flute that Jasmine plays and go into drone flutes and bamboo flutes and the many other types of flutes I believe the recognizability and repertoire increase exponentially.
Storytime: in the 3rd grade, my best friend and I were both signed up to play an instrument by our families. I got stuck playing the flute and she got stuck with the violin. I hated playing the flute and she hated playing the violin. Fast forward to 7th grade, we had both dropped playing our respective instruments at this point. I brought up how I always wanted to play violin and she laughed and said "I wanted to play the flute!" Somehow the communication between my grandma who raised me and her mom got fumbled because we ended up playing each other's instruments!
When I was in highschool a decade ago we had exactly 0 violins. Flutes however, we had two full rows of them, probably 20-26 flutists. Still to this day I don't think I've even seen a violin in person and I enjoy visiting music shops
This one is tough! Ray motivated me to play violin again after 13 years (apparently with his Tonic app) but now I want to learn the flute because of Jasmine!😂
You are so good together. It is very entertaining and I was suprised to learn that dobbelstops are a thing on the flute too. I hope I can find out which ones are doable.
@@Himari444 Hey, we don't have to carry anything :) Makes life easy. Although I am jealous of other musicians being recognized as such while carrying their instruments. No one will recognize a pianist in public, you know...
Really great meeting you all. Such a lovely experience sharing. But I think one the tone color or quality of sound flute would be more recognizable than violin. Violin most the time sound like many other instruments when played as a single instrument, yh. My opinion tho
Violins get more colour changes and can reasonably play 2 notes at once which is nice. Easy to start, portable, affordable though are really big categories.
I think that’s why they made it a tie - once you separate the range (which was already voted on), it’s up to the Individual musician. So giving it to the violin would be the same as making the range worth double points
Compare also: Ergonomics: Flute wins. Violinists shove the thing into their necks, often scarring their chins and necks. On a violin, most of the skill and hard work is on the left (poorer) hand,. Violinists strain their left wrists and finger joints, and can cut their skin with the nasty e-string. The violin is the second most uncomfortable instrument. Violas are of course the very worst. Discomfort of listeners hearing a typical player: Flute wins. A flautist who plays for an hour per day can be in a respectable orchestra after a year. A typical violinist after 3 years of 2 hours per day still causes real pain to the listener Adaptability to instruments in the same family: A flautist can pick up a piccolo and start playing. A violinist is a total beginner on a 'cello. Flute wins. Natural connection to the body: Flautists use breath rather like a singer. That makes way for a much more natural ability to express phrasing and feelings. Again flute wins. So, 4 more points for the flute. Having said that, there is no doubt that the violin is the most musical of all instruments.
@@jeannedarc8580 flute takes the most air, so switching to other wind instruments makes it easier. I picked up saxophone and I was fantastic because it takes a lot less air so I had good tone automatically, and i already had fingerings. I'm able to comfortably play in my school jazz band where people have been playing for years because of that
@@omniyx7837 I tried saxophone to and yes is was very confortable. But right now I'm trying the trumpet and it takes more air thand the flute, but it's still easier for me than for someone who never played wind bc I already know how to make my air stronger if needed
@@jeannedarc8580 yeah trumpet takes a lot of air for some notes too, flutes just finicky because unlike other instruments most of your air doesnt actually go into the flute and it gets wasted, thats why when you play other instruments its easier because all of your air goes into the instrument.
I play flute and violin and I am not good at either but I love them equally so I wanted to learn both. I main saxophone and I’m good at it but I think violin and flute sound prettier. I think I personally sound better at violin but that’s a skill issue
Strings instruments r tricky but u play Flute. Real tricky question you got. Whichever instrument is ur favorite u choose do pros and cons of the flute and violin that's how I decide
Well obviously flute is better not because she is girl(i mean) I am Indian And our lord Krishna is flute god (he plays very good flute) ❤❤❤ Hare Krishna
I want to learn one of these instruments but I have to choose the one that makes the least ulnar deviation movement on the fist 🤔 I played songs with acoustic guitar for some time and I wanted to take classical guitar lessons but I have a problem with my hand that is not compatible with me continuing to playing guitar. so now I will choose the instrument that doesn't make my problem worse
I'm neither. I have got both. When I was at my first lesson on the flute my teacher asked me how many years have you played it and I replied "what do you mean? I only got given it last week." She asked me how did you get a sound out of it? I replied if you can get a sound out of a narrow neck bottle you can get a sound out of a flute. I would experiment with bottles and pitches by putting water in the bottles.
Flute technique is easy to begin with but really, really hard to master. If you want perfect tone you need to practice hundreds of hours. The low notes are easier, but the highest notes are impossible, and to maintain perfect tone fluidly throughout the registers is like learning to play the instrument while walking blindfolded on a tightrope. You see even this highly trained womam doesn't sound good at D4. But it can actually sound beautiful and sweet. And there's also breath-control, which overlaps with tone as you play.
Oh no, I'm having a rough go with flute and I'm just beginning 😆. I hope within a year I can play some basics....just for fun since I inherited a flute (not a beginner flute which is probably an issue). I started on piano and still play, and violin was easy b/c of that, but flute is a beast.
@kristenjunker1632 Hey, good luck on your journey! IMO there's nothing really different about using a professional instrument vs a beginner one, it's just the investment, and some subtle things once you're highly skilled. I'm sure you'll rapidly pick up the most important bits and sound great soon. 🙂 And the prior music training will be a huge advantage.
*_I would like to see a video devoted to playing one instrument in the style of a different instrument._* That was done a couple of times in this video, and it was wonderful. I can play, for example, a handpan, or a kinnor, or a shakuhachi, or a 5-strng banjo. Then when I get back to my concert flute, I have a plethora of fresh ideas. I find that the best way to develop flute expression is to listen to tenor saxophonists. I do not have the experience to say what it would take to make a classical violinist into a really good fiddler.
I just wish that the orchestral world would remember there is a whole world of bands, marching bands, and military bands that have no violins whatsoever.
Jajaja para esto es que pago internet! Quiero agregar que este tipo de videos aunque son muy divertidos, lo cierto es que cada instrumento tiene su luz propia, su belleza, su singularidad, empezando por las diferencias sonoras. Sin embargo gracias por este tipo de contenido🎉 es muy divertido.
In my opinion these two are the most versatile musical instruments ever which can be used for awesome melody, and as heartmelting tune and as terrific theme music and as horror music
Jasmine is amazing on the flute; as to which instrument is better it is totally subjective , it depends whose hands they’re in. Ray made the violin sound amazing too!
Best way to improve and stay inspired in your music practice is to join a community: downloadtonic.com/today 🙌🏼
Neither instrument, the organ has both sound in one instrument, and many others as well.
0:11 0:11 😊😊
Thank you, I just got it
Ray chen ik its u :)
@Ray and @Jasmine, please make a video about Ray learning the flute in one hour or Ray teaching Jasmine because she has played before. Would be very interesting to see what both of you find challenging about the other instrument. 🤔
lols agreed idle
As someone who plays both instruments it's hard to pick one side! It's so cool that my favourite flautist and my favourite violinist are such good friends!
i bet they have the same video editor and they definitely have been in touch with each other for a while
I have also got both so won't pick a side either.
yay flute and violin team!!!!!
@@bobatealover14 yay english horn and vibraphone team!!!!!
As someone who cannot play any of them, it is still hard to pick one side :)
Team flute! 🪈 🎵 I tried the violin and I agree with Jasmine that the flute was easier to learn. I still have my poor violin tucked in a closet for years 🎻 😢
I agree with you that flute is easier to learn at least in the beginning. But some music you can only make on the violin, so for me I can't decide which instrument😊
I play flute that’s why I’m on this side
Don’t waste it, practice bro
As an oboist, I will lose to violin 100% no one writes for me ;v;…My range is only like 2 and a half octaves 😂 at most and it isn’t accessible either it was so hard to find the model I wanted XD (Oh and since I am the only oboist ofc I’m supporting my flute besties on this side)
That’s sad. Violin is ridiculously hard but I think it helps to develop a deeper love for the instrument. The flute is beautiful, and bach badinerie is like my fave song, but I love my violin and wish more people could experience playing it. ❤️
Who’s with me on violin gang? 🎻
I love both❤
I'm in the violin gang!! And also on Tonic! 🎉 🎻
I play violin and flute
So I’m both
Let's go violin gang!
💜💜💜
The legend has arrived
Hiiii team flute!
What a great convo between two wonderful individuals!
I play both flute and violin in our community orchestra, and love them both!
Team Flute! 🪈 ❤
Nooooooo violin is better
Fluteee 🪈
Flute forever ❤
No
as a flute player, flute sucks
I play both! I lean towards violin though. So glad someone made a comparison video!
Beatbox flute and violin is sendingggggg me
Also Jasmine looks so beautiful here as per usual!! 언니 오늘도 너무 아름다우시네요~~❤
❤❤❤
So much fun watching this video of two very gifted, hard working and beautiful people.
Really nice collaboration~ Thank you for this video, it’s so useful!
And I’d love to hear Ray Chen playing “Chant de Linos”😅, I’m very interested how it will sound))
Casually dropping a video for the first time in over a year and I’m here for it 🎻
What an amazing video! Thank you! I’d totally love to hear you duetting to showing the strengths of the two instruments (that kind of represent the (bowed) string instruments and the wind instruments) ❤
Really cool episode! 😎😎
Thank you both, Jasmine & Ray! 🤩🤩 This was fun & informative too. 👍🏽👍🏽 Please stay healthy and take care. 🫂💕💯
Regarding career opportunities, I definitely think it's more difficult for flutists. Even my flute teacher told me NOT to study flute and choose flute as a career and she ended up losing her job as a flute teacher because there were too little students. She studied in Paris and spend her whole life playing the flute, so it's really sad she struggled.
sad, but i kind of agree, regarding flute and career opportunities. Not to also mention the saxophonists and Clarinetists also doubling flutes in jazz scene, taking job security away from flautists.
I play both, but will choose violin.
@@redbullrobert to be fair, flute was never a viable jazz instrument. Its cool in some pieces, but it was never popular enough for anybody in their right mind to take seriously
My parents were musicians and told me no way. Your flute teacher is absolutely correct.
What an amazing video thank you so much!!!😅
You two are a riot. :) I am a classically-trained reasonably competent amateur flutist (I never played a flaut in my life, thankyouverymuch). My grandfather, my uncle, my cousin and my sister all played violin, and I took it up in the 4th grade (for about 5 minutes). I wasn't interested in continuing. I had always wanted to try flute because I liked that it came in a small case. My sister's violin teacher actually sent a flute home with me once; I might have been 7 or 8 years old. I figured out how to put it together, blew on it like it was a bottle, and discovered that the only keys I could use to change the note were the trill keys. Fast forward to when I was 12. My grandmother offered to pay for lessons and of course I picked the flute. High school and college concert bands followed. In college I decided I was not going to pursue a professional career. So I just play here and there for fun.
I play flute and I am so inspired by Jasmine choi!!🎉❤
I think if you look beyond the type of flute that Jasmine plays and go into drone flutes and bamboo flutes and the many other types of flutes I believe the recognizability and repertoire increase exponentially.
Would love to hear Ray play Voliere or the last movement of Liebermann Concerto 😎
I love this!!! Great content and video-we play both!!! Educational and entertaining!!
And I love the section about group playing and lessons-we offer that to our students too and find it so valiant!
(I meant to say valuable, not valiant! 😊 but maybe that too)
I was a music major. And this was soooo fun to watch!!! Great episode!! Can we see more videos with different instruments?
I love them both! My band teacher in 6th grade made mention that flute and violin can read the same sheet music. So i always saw them as besties. 😅
thanks so much, love both of you who make playing instruments with so much fun~ look forward to next episode about virtuosity~
I like this idea of comparing instruments! I want to hear the comparison of Prokofiev D Major sonata and Franck Sonata by both instruments.
Both instruments sound great and beautifully complement each other!🎻🪈❤
I agree ☝️
Storytime: in the 3rd grade, my best friend and I were both signed up to play an instrument by our families. I got stuck playing the flute and she got stuck with the violin. I hated playing the flute and she hated playing the violin. Fast forward to 7th grade, we had both dropped playing our respective instruments at this point. I brought up how I always wanted to play violin and she laughed and said "I wanted to play the flute!" Somehow the communication between my grandma who raised me and her mom got fumbled because we ended up playing each other's instruments!
LOL
Flute gang for ever 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I would love to hear Ray play great train race on violin
When I was in highschool a decade ago we had exactly 0 violins. Flutes however, we had two full rows of them, probably 20-26 flutists. Still to this day I don't think I've even seen a violin in person and I enjoy visiting music shops
This one is tough! Ray motivated me to play violin again after 13 years (apparently with his Tonic app) but now I want to learn the flute because of Jasmine!😂
as a flute, pls learn violin lol
You both are so talented. Thanks for sharing. Yes, please ask Ray to play the flute.🙏🏻👍👏
You are so good together. It is very entertaining and I was suprised to learn that dobbelstops are a thing on the flute too. I hope I can find out which ones are doable.
I am learning both....I like both....Each are uniquely beautiful
Flute wins the debate on air control and tone colour alone 😊
I will be waiting for the another video❤
Trust me, beginner flutes sound waayyy worse than Jasmine made it sound lol.
Lol I know right especially with the higher notes
I just downloaded the app, thanks for putting this out :)
First time I hear from Jasmine Choi. She sounds like such a great person!
I joined both of ur groups in tonic!
At 10:17 what melody she was playing. If anyone know please reply.
It’s called “Arirang” Korean traditional song
Violinist and flutis arguing about portability
Cellists meanwhile: 😭
Piano:
*no commentary*
@@Himari444 Hey, we don't have to carry anything :) Makes life easy. Although I am jealous of other musicians being recognized as such while carrying their instruments. No one will recognize a pianist in public, you know...
Really great meeting you all. Such a lovely experience sharing. But I think one the tone color or quality of sound flute would be more recognizable than violin. Violin most the time sound like many other instruments when played as a single instrument, yh. My opinion tho
Violins get more colour changes and can reasonably play 2 notes at once which is nice. Easy to start, portable, affordable though are really big categories.
it is NOT easy to start
@@omniyx7837 the later things were for flutes. Flute is def easier to start than violin.
Fun video. I play both and can't decide which instrument I like better😊
@Jasmine. I'm with you, I am learning to play the flute. I am on flute gang/team/banda.
Expressiveness is defenitley a point for the violin, if anything due to the much bigger range alone.
I think that’s why they made it a tie - once you separate the range (which was already voted on), it’s up to the Individual musician. So giving it to the violin would be the same as making the range worth double points
Compare also:
Ergonomics: Flute wins. Violinists shove the thing into their necks, often scarring their chins and necks. On a violin, most of the skill and hard work is on the left (poorer) hand,. Violinists strain their left wrists and finger joints, and can cut their skin with the nasty e-string. The violin is the second most uncomfortable instrument. Violas are of course the very worst.
Discomfort of listeners hearing a typical player: Flute wins. A flautist who plays for an hour per day can be in a respectable orchestra after a year. A typical violinist after 3 years of 2 hours per day still causes real pain to the listener
Adaptability to instruments in the same family: A flautist can pick up a piccolo and start playing. A violinist is a total beginner on a 'cello. Flute wins.
Natural connection to the body: Flautists use breath rather like a singer. That makes way for a much more natural ability to express phrasing and feelings. Again flute wins.
So, 4 more points for the flute. Having said that, there is no doubt that the violin is the most musical of all instruments.
I experience more pain playing the flute than the violin to be honest... But maybe that's just my body.
And the flute being a wind instrument it has more transferable skills even in brass because you already know how to control your air
@@jeannedarc8580 flute takes the most air, so switching to other wind instruments makes it easier. I picked up saxophone and I was fantastic because it takes a lot less air so I had good tone automatically, and i already had fingerings. I'm able to comfortably play in my school jazz band where people have been playing for years because of that
@@omniyx7837 I tried saxophone to and yes is was very confortable. But right now I'm trying the trumpet and it takes more air thand the flute, but it's still easier for me than for someone who never played wind bc I already know how to make my air stronger if needed
@@jeannedarc8580 yeah trumpet takes a lot of air for some notes too, flutes just finicky because unlike other instruments most of your air doesnt actually go into the flute and it gets wasted, thats why when you play other instruments its easier because all of your air goes into the instrument.
Which one requires super power: Flute!
I play flute and violin and I am not good at either but I love them equally so I wanted to learn both. I main saxophone and I’m good at it but I think violin and flute sound prettier. I think I personally sound better at violin but that’s a skill issue
I loveeeeer violin. Hoping one day I will learn to play it😌🤞💗🫀
I play the flute coz I find strings instrument difficult but I prefer to listen to violin music. Which team should I be on? 😅
Strings instruments r tricky but u play Flute. Real tricky question you got. Whichever instrument is ur favorite u choose do pros and cons of the flute and violin that's how I decide
Same
13:49 Can anyone tell me what she was doing that was so surprising? I am new to music, it sounded normal to me 😅
I play both instruments
Well obviously flute is better not because she is girl(i mean)
I am Indian And our lord Krishna is flute god (he plays very good flute)
❤❤❤ Hare Krishna
Violin can sound like a flute with harmonics.
Yep. Also, a flute can't play more than two notes at once. A violin can do double, triple and quadruple stops
@@whocares_bearflute and other instruments can it’s just the notes are super flat so it’s not common.
@@whocares_bear multiphonics are a thing? Lol
@@whocares_bearflute can play more than two notes at once
@@zgart Yeah, and they sound like 💩 when they do that. Can't compare that to the triple stop at the beginning of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik
I want to learn one of these instruments but I have to choose the one that makes the least ulnar deviation movement on the fist 🤔
I played songs with acoustic guitar for some time and I wanted to take classical guitar lessons but I have a problem with my hand that is not compatible with me continuing to playing guitar. so now I will choose the instrument that doesn't make my problem worse
do the Prokofiev flute/violin sonata
I love this, because i'm one of the few people who play flute and violin...
lololol some of the graphics are so funny! thanks for the video
This is so fun and interesting!
"You went through the whole 'cat scratching', 'cat dying'"...
I am in tears 😂
I'm neither. I have got both. When I was at my first lesson on the flute my teacher asked me how many years have you played it and I replied "what do you mean? I only got given it last week." She asked me how did you get a sound out of it? I replied if you can get a sound out of a narrow neck bottle you can get a sound out of a flute. I would experiment with bottles and pitches by putting water in the bottles.
Sweet
YOU DEFENDED OUR HONOR, JASMINE!!!!
Flutes forever
Flute technique is easy to begin with but really, really hard to master. If you want perfect tone you need to practice hundreds of hours. The low notes are easier, but the highest notes are impossible, and to maintain perfect tone fluidly throughout the registers is like learning to play the instrument while walking blindfolded on a tightrope. You see even this highly trained womam doesn't sound good at D4. But it can actually sound beautiful and sweet. And there's also breath-control, which overlaps with tone as you play.
Oh no, I'm having a rough go with flute and I'm just beginning 😆. I hope within a year I can play some basics....just for fun since I inherited a flute (not a beginner flute which is probably an issue).
I started on piano and still play, and violin was easy b/c of that, but flute is a beast.
@kristenjunker1632 Hey, good luck on your journey! IMO there's nothing really different about using a professional instrument vs a beginner one, it's just the investment, and some subtle things once you're highly skilled. I'm sure you'll rapidly pick up the most important bits and sound great soon. 🙂 And the prior music training will be a huge advantage.
Waiting for the challenge 👍👍👍
Can I use tonic for the Ocarina too ?
Both are great 🎉🎉
Beat box flute wins for sure. Incredible video.
*_I would like to see a video devoted to playing one instrument in the style of a different instrument._* That was done a couple of times in this video, and it was wonderful.
I can play, for example, a handpan, or a kinnor, or a shakuhachi, or a 5-strng banjo. Then when I get back to my concert flute, I have a plethora of fresh ideas.
I find that the best way to develop flute expression is to listen to tenor saxophonists. I do not have the experience to say what it would take to make a classical violinist into a really good fiddler.
I am learning the flute I learned violin for 1 year
This video was pretty funny to me since I play the flute and my sibling plays violin!😁
TEAM VIOLIN!❤️❤️
You should make a video where
Jasmine teaches Ray the flute.
What about bansuri on the app? Is it exclusive to western classical flutes?
wn ray chen said : Only u win this one 😆 😆
1.Violin 🎻
2.Flute 🪈
They both sound beautiful together
Violin is more versatile than flute 🪈
for the flute gang: Jethro Tull a rock blues/jazz fusion band
I just wish that the orchestral world would remember there is a whole world of bands, marching bands, and military bands that have no violins whatsoever.
unfortunately, after school, bands fall off and most people only think about orchestra's. After highschool, bands are somewhat irrevelant
@ military bands are not irrelevant.
Como clarinetista, devo dizer que o melhor instrumento é o piano
I just love both it's really good to hear both violin and flute so I in both ❤
Me on FLUTE!!!
Sorry I'm a bass guitar beginner but I try trumpet next and I'm excited 😊
“I see my ancestors”
-Ray Chen
I’m a brass player, what am I doing here?
Let's do the battle!!!
Where is my flute gang??😢???
👇 if you want flute😢
Jajaja para esto es que pago internet! Quiero agregar que este tipo de videos aunque son muy divertidos, lo cierto es que cada instrumento tiene su luz propia, su belleza, su singularidad, empezando por las diferencias sonoras. Sin embargo gracias por este tipo de contenido🎉 es muy divertido.
Tonic has a yt channel?! I use it all the time what 😭
In my opinion these two are the most versatile musical instruments ever which can be used for awesome melody, and as heartmelting tune and as terrific theme music and as horror music
I'm learning Flute.
Though, I do have my sister's old Violin.
❤
이렇게 훌륭하신 연주자분들을 만나뵐수 있어 영광입니다~^^😍
I play both it's hard to decide!
These are the two best instruments.
Ray is right about cats scratching. As a boy, I had a
This was fun 😄
Jasmine is amazing on the flute; as to which instrument is better it is totally subjective , it depends whose hands they’re in. Ray made the violin sound amazing too!
Violin and flute are the best! They sound so beautiful together!