We made the straps for the boots (part that fits I’ve the foot peg) longer so not a problem anymore! We also have a lifetime warranty now, so buy one and done! Thanks for using Moto Cinch!
And yes, the Alta MX (the yellow bike) really does have a flat front tire in the video! I loaded it up for the purposes of the review, to show both bikes in the truck. The Moto Cinch does not put much weight on the front suspension, so it is not really squishing the front tire. Got the flat yesterday, now just waiting for a new tire to ship so I can replace it.
Thanks Justin. I've talked to your dad a few times. I think he linked this video on your website about a year ago. Hopefully it is helpful for folks looking at buying them. Product is still going strong, and is still super convenient for loading and hauling the bikes. They are very rugged. Only thing I have done is replace the nylon straps with slightly longer straps, to make that process a bit easier. I sent your dad some info on the length of the new straps to possibly help with future production changes. Keep up the good work. You definitely have the best strapless dirt-bike tie-downs on the market.
Love that Black Widow Ramp, just purchased one. I always said, I am as likely to get hurt unloading my bikes with those short runged ramps as riding! Looking at putting L Track in the bed of my Gladiator using Rivnuts so I have full length tracks. These would work perfectly. I would have liked to of laid my ramp flat, but with these in place, I suppose vertical would work?
Yep, I'm also too old to worry about sketchy, steep ramps. My ramp does lay flat between the two middle Moto Cinches. But I pushed the bikes out as wide as I could towards the side of the bed to do so. The ramp can sit vertical, but you'd need to hold it in a folded position and prop it up with something. I also made a little "ramp-caddy" device to help move the ramp around. It is a wooden box that goes over one end of the folded ramp, and has a pair of 8" pneumatic off-road tires on it. This not only keeps the ramp folded, but you can drive the ramp around like a very long wheelbarrow. The large tires let it roll over rocks and curbs and such. Still a little awkward, but better than lifting a 60lbs ramp around.
Yep, still going strong. We typically ride a few times a week. The Moto Cinches make things very convenient to load and unload. The retention pins were starting to show some signs of wear, but Moto Cinch send me replacement parts for free. Great customer service.
If placed in the valleys of the bed, do they sit flush or below the high points of the bed so they don't hinder/scratch things being slid into the bed? That's my only concern with these
The brackets sit down far enough that they do not sit up above the ridges in the truck bed. At least in my Tundra. I also have the spray in bed liner, which might affect things a bit, but not by much. I haven't had any issues with things catching on the brackets when sliding things in. They also have a rounded profile, so things tend to slide over them anyway.
Thinking about setting up a trailer with a few of these for my bikes. What is the bike weight capacity these can handle? Do you know if it will work with a larger ADV bike?
They will easily cinch down a larger ADV bike. The street version can hold large sport bikes, Harley's and Goldwings. The only difference between the dirt and street versions is the design of the stirrup that holds the pegs. There isn't really a weight limit per se, because the Moto Cinch is not holding up the bike, it is pulling it down. The bike's own suspension is supporting the weight of the bike, the Moto Cinches are just keeping it from tipping. Since the force is essentially straight down, it doesn't take that much pressure to keep the bike upright. I suppose if you flipped the trailer, then you'd have to worry about the weight limit. But then you'd have other things to worry about, I guess.
@@C5Tor good point, and thanks. I have a hitch carrier (ultimate MX hauler) that works on a similar principle by clinching down on the pegs, but I'd be a little wary taking a larger bike on it, even though my hitch is rated for the weight, just because I tend to be on back roads that introduce a lot of bumps and sway. The moto cinch system seems more stable though, as the wheels are also a point of contact in addition to the pegs.
The suspension of the bike also works to absorb most of the bouncing and distribute the weight through the truck bed or trailer bed. The Moto Cinch just keeps the bike upright and in place, and it also keeps it from rebounding very much. The MX Hauler does use the pegs to hold the bike in place, but the MX Hauler is also holding up the entire weight of the bike via the trailer hitch. Not always ideal on bouncy roads. I used to have an MX Hauler. It was a nice product, but I had issues with ground clearance and tailgate clearance. Also, the hydraulic jack was a weak point. If the jack ever failed, it wasn't really useable.
@@C5Tor I've had issues with the bottle jack from day 1 as well on the MX Hauler. I actually carry a spare in the truck in case it fails when I'm out in the middle of nowhere.
It depends on how they are adjusted. There are four bolt positions, each about 1/2 inch apart. When you pull the lever up, it pulls the pegs down approximately 2 inches from the fully extended position to the compressed position. Hope that helps.
It puts a lot less pressure on the suspension than typical tie-down straps on the bars. It also spreads the pressure over both the front and rear, so it keeps the back of the bike from bouncing as well as the front.
Thanks for asking. That is a Black Widow 94" x 54" Tri-Fold ATV Ramp. Got it on DiscountRamps.com, but also available on Amazon. Pricey, but it's nice for my lifted truck. Pretty heavy (65 lbs.) but it is convenient when loading and unloading dirt bikes or generators, etc. I built a little dolly for moving it around. The dolly is a small box that slips over one end of the ramp, and has two 8" pneumatic wheels attached to it. The box also holds the ramp in the folded position. Then you can walk the ramp around like a long wheelbarrow. I ended up painting the ramp black with anti-slip spray paint, since it could get a bit slick when wet, and the silver aluminum could get blinding in the wrong sunlight.
We made the straps for the boots (part that fits I’ve the foot peg) longer so not a problem anymore! We also have a lifetime warranty now, so buy one and done! Thanks for using Moto Cinch!
And yes, the Alta MX (the yellow bike) really does have a flat front tire in the video! I loaded it up for the purposes of the review, to show both bikes in the truck. The Moto Cinch does not put much weight on the front suspension, so it is not really squishing the front tire. Got the flat yesterday, now just waiting for a new tire to ship so I can replace it.
Wow great video. My dad an I actually own motocinch. I handle every single order! Thanks for the video brother I hope they work great!
Thanks Justin. I've talked to your dad a few times. I think he linked this video on your website about a year ago. Hopefully it is helpful for folks looking at buying them. Product is still going strong, and is still super convenient for loading and hauling the bikes. They are very rugged. Only thing I have done is replace the nylon straps with slightly longer straps, to make that process a bit easier. I sent your dad some info on the length of the new straps to possibly help with future production changes. Keep up the good work. You definitely have the best strapless dirt-bike tie-downs on the market.
I met your dad and mom in London today. Good product 👌
Excellent review! Moto Cinch is the absolute best tie down system made.
Love to hear that! My dad and I own the company! We love to see customer photos if you have any!
Love that Black Widow Ramp, just purchased one. I always said, I am as likely to get hurt unloading my bikes with those short runged ramps as riding! Looking at putting L Track in the bed of my Gladiator using Rivnuts so I have full length tracks. These would work perfectly. I would have liked to of laid my ramp flat, but with these in place, I suppose vertical would work?
Yep, I'm also too old to worry about sketchy, steep ramps. My ramp does lay flat between the two middle Moto Cinches. But I pushed the bikes out as wide as I could towards the side of the bed to do so. The ramp can sit vertical, but you'd need to hold it in a folded position and prop it up with something. I also made a little "ramp-caddy" device to help move the ramp around. It is a wooden box that goes over one end of the folded ramp, and has a pair of 8" pneumatic off-road tires on it. This not only keeps the ramp folded, but you can drive the ramp around like a very long wheelbarrow. The large tires let it roll over rocks and curbs and such. Still a little awkward, but better than lifting a 60lbs ramp around.
@@C5Tor We sound a lot alike, tinkerers! Too bad about the electric motorcycle company!
Great bikes. Nice review. Still like and using the moto cinch?
Yep, still going strong. We typically ride a few times a week. The Moto Cinches make things very convenient to load and unload. The retention pins were starting to show some signs of wear, but Moto Cinch send me replacement parts for free. Great customer service.
If placed in the valleys of the bed, do they sit flush or below the high points of the bed so they don't hinder/scratch things being slid into the bed? That's my only concern with these
The brackets sit down far enough that they do not sit up above the ridges in the truck bed. At least in my Tundra. I also have the spray in bed liner, which might affect things a bit, but not by much. I haven't had any issues with things catching on the brackets when sliding things in. They also have a rounded profile, so things tend to slide over them anyway.
In the video it looks like you have a front flat ?
Yes, I mentioned it in a previous comment. I got the flat the day before the video, and was waiting for a replacement.
Thinking about setting up a trailer with a few of these for my bikes. What is the bike weight capacity these can handle? Do you know if it will work with a larger ADV bike?
They will easily cinch down a larger ADV bike. The street version can hold large sport bikes, Harley's and Goldwings. The only difference between the dirt and street versions is the design of the stirrup that holds the pegs. There isn't really a weight limit per se, because the Moto Cinch is not holding up the bike, it is pulling it down. The bike's own suspension is supporting the weight of the bike, the Moto Cinches are just keeping it from tipping. Since the force is essentially straight down, it doesn't take that much pressure to keep the bike upright. I suppose if you flipped the trailer, then you'd have to worry about the weight limit. But then you'd have other things to worry about, I guess.
@@C5Tor good point, and thanks. I have a hitch carrier (ultimate MX hauler) that works on a similar principle by clinching down on the pegs, but I'd be a little wary taking a larger bike on it, even though my hitch is rated for the weight, just because I tend to be on back roads that introduce a lot of bumps and sway. The moto cinch system seems more stable though, as the wheels are also a point of contact in addition to the pegs.
The suspension of the bike also works to absorb most of the bouncing and distribute the weight through the truck bed or trailer bed. The Moto Cinch just keeps the bike upright and in place, and it also keeps it from rebounding very much. The MX Hauler does use the pegs to hold the bike in place, but the MX Hauler is also holding up the entire weight of the bike via the trailer hitch. Not always ideal on bouncy roads. I used to have an MX Hauler. It was a nice product, but I had issues with ground clearance and tailgate clearance. Also, the hydraulic jack was a weak point. If the jack ever failed, it wasn't really useable.
@@C5Tor I've had issues with the bottle jack from day 1 as well on the MX Hauler. I actually carry a spare in the truck in case it fails when I'm out in the middle of nowhere.
These look very cool. How far do they pull the pegs down?
It depends on how they are adjusted. There are four bolt positions, each about 1/2 inch apart. When you pull the lever up, it pulls the pegs down approximately 2 inches from the fully extended position to the compressed position. Hope that helps.
@@C5Tor Totally helps. I was concerned it would be a lot and put a lot of strain on the suspension. 2 inches seems fine. Thanks
It puts a lot less pressure on the suspension than typical tie-down straps on the bars. It also spreads the pressure over both the front and rear, so it keeps the back of the bike from bouncing as well as the front.
what type of motor ramp is that?
Thanks for asking. That is a Black Widow 94" x 54" Tri-Fold ATV Ramp. Got it on DiscountRamps.com, but also available on Amazon. Pricey, but it's nice for my lifted truck. Pretty heavy (65 lbs.) but it is convenient when loading and unloading dirt bikes or generators, etc. I built a little dolly for moving it around. The dolly is a small box that slips over one end of the ramp, and has two 8" pneumatic wheels attached to it. The box also holds the ramp in the folded position. Then you can walk the ramp around like a long wheelbarrow. I ended up painting the ramp black with anti-slip spray paint, since it could get a bit slick when wet, and the silver aluminum could get blinding in the wrong sunlight.