Not to forget…in 1st story…mother of eve left the hospital for some family drama…choose that family drama is priority over the birth of her first grandchild…and does not wants to spend extra money to go to meet the child but wants to be the 1st family to meet the baby???? And then eve doesn’t allow any one to even videocall and show the baby till eve’s mother meets the baby??? Wow
I'm German and we are way more honest and direct than Americans. Therefore I don't think that OP in the first story is an AH. The family insisted on an answer and she gave it. It's not her job to spare feeling of people who are physically keep me from leaving, feeling entitled to an answer just as they felt entitled to prevent the other grandmother from seeing the baby.
It's also been a year after the birth, it's not like she was still recovering for it and OP shoved it in her face. The sister had been living separately at mom's house for half a year already :)) some ppl need reality checks...
@@warwick3039 it can take up to 2 years for a woman’s brain chemistry to return to normal. it’s her mother who manipulated her and made her feel terrible for missing the birth, which wasn’t even her fault. she was going through an insane hormonal change and her mom took advantage of that; from the “info diet” comment, it sounds like she already had a habit of being a little too involved and trying to control things. no one could have known that jack’s mother was going to die in such a terrible way, but you have to realize that he completely respected her position on the matter before that even happened. but then she died and there no way he couldn’t resent her sister for it, which is incredibly unfortunate. also? a year is absolutely NO TIME AT ALL when you’re mourning a tragedy like that plus the marital fallout that followed. they’re literally still picking up the pieces at the time that OP made her comments. the sister definitely could’ve handled things better but she probably spiraled like crazy after MIL and jack began to completely ignore her. being almost 8 months post-partum, i would’ve actually lost my god damn mind if this happened to me. new baby, changing body and hormones, no sleep, major anxiety around just hearing my baby cry, risk of PPD and PPP, etc… it can be really intense for some people and then to add on all that? i would need to be committed
All postpartum not the same for everyone. Women’s bodies are not studied the way they should be. Don’t get me started on perimenopause or full blown menopause. Sad situation for all in the story.
18:00 its not just the silent treatment hes mourning his mom and also dealing with preparing for a divorce. WITHOUT knowing what happens its kinda obvious that's whats hes doing. Why else turn down therapy? Hes done done.
Story one is so horrific. I feel sooooo bad for Jack, I can’t even imagine his emotions. Eve and her mother are 100% to blame for Jack’s mom never getting a chance to see her grand baby. They are horribly selfish humans and if I were Jack I’d never want anything to do with them again. Why is Eve’s mom more important that she should be “first in line” over jacks mom when it comes to seeing a grandchild that is the first born in both families? Just because Eve is the one who gave birth does not make her the ONLY decision maker and I say that at 8months pregnant. Would I love for my mom to be first to meet my baby? Sure. But if she couldn’t make it and my husband’s family got there first, so be it. We all will hopefully have a lifetime with the baby so it doesn’t matter who sees her first. Eve absolutely deserves everything she has coming to her in regards to Jack’s hatred. The nerve to leave to “teach him a lesson” as if she didn’t ruin his life by being so selfish is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable.
Yeah, my MIL happened to come see my daughter before my parents. She actually left the morning of the day my folks arrived. It never even occurred to me to *think* about who met the baby first.
Y’all saying that she deserves abuse (which the silent treatment and stonewalling are abuse) because she was newly postpartum making a dumb decision likely due to pressure from her mom is insane. He’s allowed to grieve and be mad OF COURSE. What he did ended up being abusive though and nobody deserves abuse. Nobody could’ve predicted his mom would die in a freak accident and if he’s unwilling to work on things then he needed to say he wanted to separate and leave, not withdraw entirely.
@@Duckduckobtusegoose I feel his stonewalling her is more due to the lack of regret expressed on her part. Her reaction to OP’s truthful outburst at the beginning makes me think she feels utterly blameless in this entire debacle. What kind of monster doesn’t realise her mistake in that moment and express regret, share the mourning of her husband?
1st story op is not the a.h, that sis of theirs is the a.h. his mom, she could of seen the baby either in person or video call. Parents on both sides have equal rights to see the baby first, after the birth parents, Jack will always regret not pushing the issue and having his mom drive down. Ops sis is a narcissist and so is her mom, toxic. The leaving and giving silent treatment is supposed to be a punishment, it is not, not for those done with the abuse, I'm pretty sure. Also if his mom came down to their place, stayed in guest room, the mom could still be alive. He probably feels a lot of different things. I would cut out the mom, sis and help the new dad with the baby.
What I don't get is why did her mom not do a video call? So a video call is too much for his mom but not enough for her mom? I cannot comprehend how two people can be so selfish and that's even before the fact that they are mad at him for being upset about it at all.
@@AugustVirgo_91Yep. I bet it was the F-ing entitlement. The pos not only took away the possibility of the MIL to meet her grandbaby but she also thinks she's in the right and her and mommy dearest appear to be hella delusional thinking the husband is in the wrong. I had moments when thinking "this is too stupid to be happening" and a chuckle came out without intending too. They asked for it and didnt like to face reality. OP is not the AH and neither is the husband. I hope it was fucking worth it for OPs sister to have a tantrum to have her selfish way bc I wouldnt be able to ever look at her without disgust or disdain either.
To me it seems like the mom just had to be the first to see the grandbaby. It was a selfish behavior. And it almost feels like competition for the grandma who didn't want anyone to see her before she did. That was so unfair. When my granddaughter was born we were all there in the waiting room. I was ok with the other grandma seeing her first because it was her daughter and she almost passed during the labor. But she also made it short so we could all see her as we all did. After they brought her home she only allowed the grandparents for the first 6 weeks
SO BASICALLY HER MOM GOT IN HER HEAD GUILTING THE NEW MOM BECAUSE SHE (the mom) MISSED THE BIRTH PEOBABLY SAYING “ i have to be the first to see the baby” new mom felt bad and held “ my mom has to see her first” crazy story. husband is a gem!!!! DIVORSE 4 sure!!!!!
Noo the Husband also went to far. 5 months a silent treatment not wanting to do therapy etc. Driving off not letting her go to the funeral. He has every justified in his hurt but the way he goes about it is not ok. Eve could've never known his mom would die and her mom got into her head. In a regular situation it would not become such a big issue. It would become something they could work out. She is not responsible for his moms death. Her level of Ah-ness just seems far more intense because of the death of jacks mom.
@@Sunflowers_220 I disagree, it’s most likely not the only time the wife was controlling. Specially when she was to pick the name because she is carrying the baby. She is as entitled and controlling as her mother wanting to be the first to see the baby. She didn’t have to agree to the husband’s conditions. He probably wanted to divorce.
@@ily._.1133that’s drawing a conclusion based on an assumption. If we are going on the information given then you have a hormonal soon to be and then new mother who just gave birth with her mom in her ear whom she is obviously very close with. The choices she made in this scenario were controlling but there is absolutely zero evidence of that being a frequent behaviour. He lost his mom at an insane time in his life and rightfully holds resentment towards his wife. At that point you leave, you do not give the silent treatment for five months. Contrary to what many believe the silent treatment when given for long periods of time or in retaliation to behaviours one does not like IS considered abuse.
@@Duckduckobtusegoose she gets no sympathy from me specially when she couldn’t see his side and decided to “give him a lesson” when she left him. Which she should have done long before and left him at peace without her presence. It wasn’t until Op laughed and told her the painful truth that she realized her delusion. Op said he still is angry and resentful, and I don’t blame him. The silent treatment is a no brainer, he despised her at that moment but stayed for the baby. The fact that he is willing to go to couple’s therapy is because he still loves her, but he is not willing to ever go through the same situation or pain so he made conditions. I myself do not do nor tolerate silent treatment, but I thank god my mother is still with me. I would not know how I would react in his situation. That is why I don’t understand why she stayed.
Eve's mom has called all the shots for their entire marriage. Now Jack is calling the shots. If it doesn't even out, this marriage is doomed. However, I totally understand where Jack is coming from.
and I imagine the conversation had been going for months already between the sister and the mom, about Jack just needing time, while it had already been a year since they were separated. I would scoff laugh too if I heard the same audacity and entitlement that "he'll just get over it" after they didn't allow his mom to see her grandchild...
@@warwick3039 that’s the thing though. he DOES need to move past it in order to heal himself. also it’s not like his mother was actively dying and she denied her. it would’ve been been completely fine if his mother hadn’t died, but she couldn’t have known that would happen. he is placing all the blame on her even though he agreed to her conditions. she clearly has her own mommy issues that need to be addressed, but he is acting like he didn’t participate in enabling her and her mother
@@partiallyhealedsunburn1881 my point was that OP was not an AH to tell the sister all those things. If anything, OP telling the sister to wake up seems to have made her talk it out with the husband, even if their arrangement seems just as deranged... As for the husband, it's true, no one could have knows his mother would die. But that doesn't mean he will be able to remove the tragedy from the wife and her crazy mother. They didn't allow even a video call??? I honestly don't think I could ever forgive them, or even if I did, the relationship would never be the same. And to add to that, the wife left for half a year to what? punish him for mourning his mother? :)))) As a straight woman, I'd throw the whole wife away, she's not a person who seems ready to be in a relationship with someone other than her damn mother.
Regarding the first story, my dad always told me something along the lines “seconds, seconds determine the outcome of your life, wether you’re a few car lengths ahead in traffic or behind, wether you get caught in an accident or someone else, second’s determine life and death. Time is one thing you can’t get back.” He would say that when someone would fly by going way too fast or when we’d here a car engine flying by in the distance. It’s a great reminder. He would also use it in the context of valuing your own time, to use it wisely because it truly is one of very few things you can’t get back.
In story 1, how could Eve forgive herself for that? As someone whose dad will never get to meet her baby it’s devastating enough. Then to think it was because she and her mom were being selfish.
In the first story they DID give a reason for not wanting the baby meeting anyone: OPs mom was to be the first grandma to meet the baby. No germs, nothing. Just disgusting
I swear I'm really amazed at OK Story crew being so... unrealistic... OP gave Eve some tough love advice to understand how she messed up her marriage to Jack.... And they are still on Eve's side?! Hopefully they change their view as the story continues
The story with the wedding planning: definitely should not get married. The relationship with the sister and the snarky “jokes” are so sus and rude. They should not be together
Just make the sister a bridesmaid. Seems like sister is trying to use the being a best man into a chance to stand out. If the bride is not ok with that than that's how she feels. Fiance is a jerk for caring more about the sisters feelings than his future bride's.
agree 100%, sister is not taking into account OPs feelings at all, just wants to shine on a weeding that's not hers. And OP is not focusing on the other bridesmaids because they are all wearing dresses picked by the bride like normal ppl... And the jokes with the husband are sooooooooo inappropriate, what business would your future husband have to make boob jokes with your sister? repeatedly?? to mock you??? hell nah!
That’s what I was thinking the whole time is “why is he marrying the OP and not the sister if he clearly cares so much more about her feelings than his fiance?” Not to mention making fun of his future wife with her sister by OGGLING HER BREASTS IN FRONT OF OP. Like, what????
I need someone to put together a compilation of all the mouth instruments our favorite hosts make in between reading when they are looking for their place or looking for something in the chat 😊
I wouldn’t mind a compilation of all their spoonerisms and utterly incorrect proverbs, inappropriately bastardised pearls of wisdom and so on. It might take a few hours. 🤦🏻♀️
What if his mom had came and stayed with them to see the baby, she may never have gotten in that car accident 🤷🏻♀️ Eve and her mom are beyond selfish and OP is in no way the asshole for telling the truth
OP is NOT the AH. They cornered OP and made them give an answer. Don't ask when you know the answer you're going to get isn't what you want to hear. Also Jack can ice that bítch out as much as HE sees fit for his healing journey. Should they split? Yes, but it seems like he's scared he won't get to see his baby anymore, also same bítch can get kicked while she's down too, almost like people want to be shítty but feel entitled to a lack of consequences for being a waste of emotional intelligence
Patsy Wilson is a riot and we need more of her. Riley, I can guarantee my mother's way worse. She showed up to my job a week after I started and asked the front counter to call me. She asked them to call me to the front counter "Because I did not check-in with my parole officer that day." My coworker came around the orner and hissed that my 'P.O. was here!' Several of my nearby coworkers eyes were the size of dinner plates. I was very confused as I don't have a P.O. and have never been in trouble with the police. I peaked around the corner and saw her 80's hairdo and informed my nosy coworkers that it was just my mom. She now does this to every new employee. 😅 I've learned that she is not allowed to be bored. Otherwise she gets... creative 😂 Edit: I cannot stress enough that an adopted child, is YOUR child. And if your child adopts a child, that is your Grandchild. They are precious treasures that deserve to be loved.
The role reversal in story one is one thing we did in therapy to put the other person in the other's shoes. It worked well enough, but ultimately, if the person is a narcissist, once things even out, it does not stay even n the scale does tip back to the initial controlling individual.
Op telling her sister not to overvalue herself is NOT the asshole; But, instead of telling Eve that she shouldn’t over value herself… the more effective way to communicate would have been to say “Stop undervaluing Jack and your in-laws because they are your family too!” Simultaneous multiple life changing events cause massive stress! I think all these people need as much support as they can get and no one needs to through any more fire on the situation. Eve, no matter her personality, is physically recovering from childbirth. We have no idea how extensive that recovery is… even if it was an “easy” childbirth or a massive C section surgery; several weeks are needed for recovery. Hormonal dumps have been happening from the time she got pregnant, and will still be happening for a few months… even if she chooses not to breast feed her child. No matter how prepared she thought she was for the life change of motherhood, I can guarantee She wasn’t prepared for the actuality! On top of that whatever happened to her Aunt, that caused her mother to shift her plans and then miss her flight home (all common and even reasonable expectations, in what seems to be a series of unfortunate events) ultimately Jack and Eve both agreed to have everyone wait… NO ONE could predict the tragedy that befell Jack’s mother! Jack is in Horrible Grief now, and a sadness so deep his decisions are unreliable, explosive, devastating… all reflections of the deep pain he’s feeling. Both Eve and Jack need support and GRACE, right now! Healing and blessings to them and their daughter, whose birthday will likely be a difficult anniversary all her life.
That last story man- I was parentified by the age of 11. My baby brother was born and my mom wanted to tap out of parenting the moment she could. He still calls me Mommy, and gently correct him and try to get him to call me sister or by my name.
The story of the little boy pushing the little girl into the pool..."Boys will be boys" has to be my all time, most hated, stupid saying. I dislike that saying so much.
I was just told yesterday "kids will be kids" when I told my daughters friends parents that the child (male) was making crude comments about my 10yo daughter getting her period. I hate the "boys will be boys" and "kids will be kids" shit, like no correct your kid!!!
I’d like to see a joke episode of Sophia playing every role of the show. Host, co-host, producer, and host who comes in randomly and alleviates another host to be able to eat/use facilities.
With both of our girls births, obviously my hubby saw them same time as me and then my mum saw the girls as she drove us to the hospital for the births, BUT my mother in law and rest of my in-laws saw them via watts app within the hour of thier births after MY MUM watts app video called them for us once we were settled on the ward (they live 3-4 hours away and my sil even drove to my mils house 1 hour from her house as mils phone does not have watts app ability and mil does not drive, so she could see them too), love my family on both sides they are great x
The reason why Eve didn’t let her mother-in-law see the baby is because her mother wanted to see the baby and they wanted it to be fair so some of this blame is the mother’s fault. I don’t think Jack’s gonna ever get over it and I don’t know if I could either.
Sister- Not the AH, - I think the fact that the sister *had* to say this explains a lot about the wife's decisions at the start of the story. It seems like she either doesn't care enough to consider it a big deal or she is so unaware that she doesn't see why it is a big deal. - It seems like the wife/mom don't really get it/are in denial. I mean, for a woman who unapologetically prioritized her mom over all else regardless of the consequences (depriving daughter and husband of a chance to bond, straining relationships w/ husband's family) you'd think she'd understand how hard it must be for her husband. Wife- Not the AH. She is the devil. - Her and the MIL deciding that MIL basically has dibs, no matter how much time she takes. Despite the MIL choosing to go to her sister's and showing no urgency in returning, the wife unilaterally decided that no one could see her *and her husband's* baby. - Even if nothing happened to MIL2, that would still be a hell of a grenade the wife threw. What would you do or say as a husband and father? Fielding calls all day and the next asking about your baby and you have to say "I don't know my wife won't let me see her." It seems like that would be so hard to come back from as far as the relationship with the husband's family. It would be one thing to ask for a few hours or until later in the day max...but that's just a slap in the face. - Obviously she had to offer to go to the funeral, but she would only have caused more pain for the attendees that knew that she denied her MIL the chance to meet her grandchild, which I imagine was the topic of the last conversation she had with a few people. Mom- The devil apple doesn't fall far from the devil tree. - She chose to go be with her sister, which is fine, but that was her choice. She can't have everything. What kind of sociopath would choose to leave, come to the conclusion that it is so important that NO ONE can see the baby. But...not important enough to get a flight home? Not excited? Not feeling guilty for keeping everyone waiting? Aunt- Not the devil b/c her world just burned down, BUT she is the AH. For not just going to where the baby is being born for a day. Husband- AH to himself for not divorcing his wife. She didn't cause the car wreck, but her actions before it and her response to it afterward is obviously indicative of someone who is profoundly self-centered and incapable of basic empathy.
1st story: no its both mom and eve. She needed to hear it because its true. Both grandparents at the least, should have been able to meet the baby. Mainly because you never know. Plus its juat as much his not to share as well. What if it was the other way around? Also the mom. Mom could have pushed eve to thinking she neeeds to be the first.
24:52 not ONLY would that be the only time she would be able to see the baby, but it could have changed the course of events that lead up to her dying... meaning maybe she wouldn't have been in that accident...
Guyyyys 🤦🏻♀️ “Theory” in science is the highest form of knowledge. Theories are hypotheses which are tested repeatedly and never disproven. In colloquial English we use theory completely differently as something that is just theoretical, but in science, it is basically the opposite lol. For example, germ theory, evolutionary theory, etc. These are as close to fundamental truths as we can get 😆
First story I am at the point I think the husband is gonna divorce but he’s keeping quiet because if he leaves at newborn stage his visitation would be very l8mited. This way he is interacting with baby is an equal value to the baby so can set up the stage for 50/50 after weaning.
It’s not Jennifer’s wedding, she doesn’t get the say, and fiancé needs to care about the bride’s feelings about her own damn wedding To be clear- I don’t like her body shaming sister and I think cosplay would have been way cooler BUT why is the sister doubling down so hard? That’s weird and so is the way sister and fiancé are shit talking her too. Yeah everyone totally sucks here
My sister in law won't let anyone have pic of her daugher or hold her. She doesn't want her sisters to see or even know she had a baby. She thinks her sister has the jinn in her
100% eve and mum’s fault. They deprived jack’s mother her only chance to ever meet her grandchild. they deserve to live with that guilt for the rest of their lives.
Ok story time: my elementary school class was notorious for bullying. Over the 9 years from K-8th grades, around 7 kids left to go to other schools due to bullying. One of the big problems was that the parents enabled and encouraged the behavior and were very cliquey themselves. They saw their children as perfect angels who could do no wrong. Needless to say, I was one of the kids targeted by bullies. At one point a girl I’ll call S was bullying me in the same way over and over again like clockwork during every recess and break. I told my mom and older sister by three years what was happening and the next day at school, my sister, a decidedly tiny and weak person in comparison to S who was quite athletic, goes up to her and says “hey, I don’t like how you are treating my sister. I’m watching you.” And apparently that vague statement from a 10 year old made to this 8 year old bully was enough to send her crying to her mother terrified. The school administrators ended up getting involved and my sister had to apologize which was ridiculous because they never did anything when us bullied kids spoke up and asked for help. Her mom was in such a tizzy about it. And you know what? For the most part, it worked! S was less openly hostile to me after that point. It’s just a funny story that my family still laughs about to this day.
First story not the a-hole. I've heard this story told before. Eve is evil and horrible. I can't believe you guys defended her, it's actually gross what eve did. Eve is horrible and she deserves to be divorced. The poor husband is the only one I feel sorry for, that and the baby
In Some cultures people do not like others to have access to a child because of superstition of evil / ill will. Eg. Don't let people have access to photo because someone can curse the child via the image. Don't let anyone hold the newborn because negative energies will be placed on child by jealousy
I would've asked my sister to be my bridesmaid to avoid all this, however I would want her to pick a specific dress that I was comfortable with for my wedding. I'm a woman with a large chest and so I prefer not to draw too much attention in formal settings and especially at someone else’s event.
Grandmother didn’t get to see grandchild story- That was the babies mother’s fault and the father’s fault because he allowed that to happen. He should have stood up to his wife and insisted his mother be allowed to see his baby. Wife’s mother should have been on a plane as soon knew the mother was in labor. If no plane was available get in the car and go.
1st story, mom and sis are aholes, not op... If after one year of no contact from her husband she still thinks he will forgive her, then she delulu AF. OP might be a bit rude, but someone needed a reality check, I guess. keeping stepmom from seeing the baby before mom was a dick move. I would understand if it was one day or two, but three weeks ? Please, she's as much Lori's grandma than op's mom. And the sis had the galls to leave her husband to teach him a lesson ? No, please, she's irredeemable.
It is very tit for tat but if it's working for them, it doesn't matter what we think. It sounds like baby steps that are successfully making progress towards healing their marriage 🤷🏼♀️
My daughter's name is my middle name and my great grandmother's name is a Slovakian name. My mother died and I chose my daughter to have her middle name be my mother and first name be my great grandmothers and my middle name. She has her dad's last name and hyphened my last name as well. Every family is different but that sister who kept the baby away is so cruel it's just evil 😔
story 1 why do people punish others when they ask questions? the mother and sister pressed her for why she laughed, yea she could have held back sure but the sister left while dude was mourning. He can never leave to his moms again 🥺 dont ask questions you dont want answers to.
I fear the wife NOT allowing his mom to see the baby and then her passing away before our getting to see her or even a photo is going to be a resentment that tears their family apart…😖😣
Eve and her mom clearly see themselves as more important than the paternal side of the family. At the end of the day that's jacks baby too, and his mom had as much of a right to meet the baby as Eves' mom. Tbh, I dont think pregnancy hormones are an excuse for this one. This shows that Eve will always prioritize her family over jacks when it comes to the baby.
You can pick up a DNA test at Walmart. That's how my sister was proven. Now both my sons questioned the paternity. I told my son's the same thing. That once you open that door you can not close it. So be sure you are ready for the answer. Regardless, I told them both that no matter their choice they are still my grandkids and I would not change that as id been part of their lives for 6,4 and 1 yr. Both son's decided to leave well enough alone. My oldest son told me that someone did it for him. My youngest son's ex wife is currently pregnant and even though it's not my son's child we all collectively told her if we do for one we'll do for both. Both her and her new partner were happy to hear that. Children are innocent. They didn't ask to be here and it sucks to see them treated differently because of biology.
This is how I can really tell these three are young, first of all everyone missed the very first part of the story when she doesn’t even bring up how she met Matt. Shelley goes into how her sister Jennifer met Matt. They’ve always worked in the same company, they’ve made sure they have the same schedules. Their collage degrees are even the same!! OP doesn’t say one word about they met!! She talks about her fiancé Matt and her sister Jennifer have the same hobbies and how they play almost every night with her, from either video games or D&D. Where is there anything about what Matt does with OP? Where does it say he carves any time out for OP?? Now while yes this is his wedding as well, but Jennifer is STILL her sister, she should have gone to her sister and said while I’m his best man I’m STILL your sister. Now I’d like to have my friend make my dress, would you come with me to help design it? And the groomsmen always color match the bridesmaids so those two just doing whatever is incredibly disrespectful to HIS fiancé. I honestly feel like if OP broke up with Matt and she moved away before she could sign the lease on a new apartment Jennifer and Matt would be together and her whole family would be incredibly happy about it. Matt and Jennifer act more like a couple than OP and Matt. And the way OP describes Matt and Jennifer’s relationship it’s almost like she knows it too.
Why was there a contest for which grandmother saw the baby first? Although it's sounds like Eve's mother created the contest in her mind and it created a mess.
Wait....but what happened to the bride and groom?!?! I don't know why but it feels like the two are sleeping together! Did they get married or break up?!?
Doesn’t the bride usually get to pick what the rest of the wedding party wears??? So why is everyone acting like she shouldn’t be able to choose this one person’s clothing? The way fiancé and best “man” are making all these jokes makes me believe that OP likely has a non-zero reason for feeling this way.
I think that Eve and the mother were being so ridiculous with Eve being the victim of everything that’s what made OP laugh. And with that she tried to leave and they wouldn’t let her. If this would’ve been my sister, that this happened to I would’ve told her the same thing because she needs to hear the truth and she’s obviously selfish entitled, and the mother is contributing to it.
The second story with the sisters being the groomsmen got MESSED up in the second update. Her sister and mark and OP’s mom are the AH’s! Ugh I feel so bad for OP. Mark basically admitted to just dating OP because her SISTER WAS TOO HOT and young so he was bored at a party and flirted with op and just went with it even though he wanted her sister! And mom blamed OP for dating mark her sister’s “best friend” as she was crying after mark told her all this and said they “needed a break.” OP isn’t a saint but mark is the AH and her sister is the AH for not telling her sister mark made fun and complained about her 24:7 their entire relationship and moms the AH for blaming her daughter instead of comforting her; she comforted Jennifer instead! Maybe that’s partly why OP had such strong feelings about her sister. I hope she just ditched them all and moved away not including any of them in her life anymore because none of them appear to care about her at all
1st story Eve was wrong for sure and OP was truthful but not loyal to her sister. Jack was hurt deeply. He knew how much his own mother were hurt end felt
1st story: op nta, both mom and sister needed a kick in the butt to get empathy for the (ex probably) husband. It sounds like they’re both a bit narcissistic and this is the reaction of the not golden child. As a person who will laugh humorlessly often because I absolutely can’t believe I’m in a situation I’m in I would probably do a single “laugh” (often it’s more of a scoff. But I understand OP.)
I was just wondering if John yawns when he is reading Is because he is quite a fast talker and he is not getting enough air in during his reading he sort of takes in little gasps of air but not really taking in breaths just an observation ❤
hey BIG PROTEIN i love love you like love. the voice. the like everything you’re so sweet and funny. READING THE STORIES IS NOT YOUR STRENGTH!!!! your comments are so funny. let’s stick to that. reading is a bit dry
Not to forget…in 1st story…mother of eve left the hospital for some family drama…choose that family drama is priority over the birth of her first grandchild…and does not wants to spend extra money to go to meet the child but wants to be the 1st family to meet the baby???? And then eve doesn’t allow any one to even videocall and show the baby till eve’s mother meets the baby??? Wow
Jack is angry with himself for not standing up for himself especially for something trivial like this. He realised it after this incident
Agreed.
I'm German and we are way more honest and direct than Americans. Therefore I don't think that OP in the first story is an AH. The family insisted on an answer and she gave it. It's not her job to spare feeling of people who are physically keep me from leaving, feeling entitled to an answer just as they felt entitled to prevent the other grandmother from seeing the baby.
As an American I completely agree with you.
It's also been a year after the birth, it's not like she was still recovering for it and OP shoved it in her face. The sister had been living separately at mom's house for half a year already :)) some ppl need reality checks...
@@warwick3039 it can take up to 2 years for a woman’s brain chemistry to return to normal. it’s her mother who manipulated her and made her feel terrible for missing the birth, which wasn’t even her fault. she was going through an insane hormonal change and her mom took advantage of that; from the “info diet” comment, it sounds like she already had a habit of being a little too involved and trying to control things. no one could have known that jack’s mother was going to die in such a terrible way, but you have to realize that he completely respected her position on the matter before that even happened. but then she died and there no way he couldn’t resent her sister for it, which is incredibly unfortunate. also? a year is absolutely NO TIME AT ALL when you’re mourning a tragedy like that plus the marital fallout that followed. they’re literally still picking up the pieces at the time that OP made her comments. the sister definitely could’ve handled things better but she probably spiraled like crazy after MIL and jack began to completely ignore her. being almost 8 months post-partum, i would’ve actually lost my god damn mind if this happened to me. new baby, changing body and hormones, no sleep, major anxiety around just hearing my baby cry, risk of PPD and PPP, etc… it can be really intense for some people and then to add on all that? i would need to be committed
All postpartum not the same for everyone. Women’s bodies are not studied the way they should be. Don’t get me started on perimenopause or full blown menopause. Sad situation for all in the story.
Im American and and I agree also had it been like 3 months after okay but almost a year later she had every right to give her sister a reality check
18:00 its not just the silent treatment hes mourning his mom and also dealing with preparing for a divorce. WITHOUT knowing what happens its kinda obvious that's whats hes doing. Why else turn down therapy? Hes done done.
Story one is so horrific. I feel sooooo bad for Jack, I can’t even imagine his emotions. Eve and her mother are 100% to blame for Jack’s mom never getting a chance to see her grand baby. They are horribly selfish humans and if I were Jack I’d never want anything to do with them again. Why is Eve’s mom more important that she should be “first in line” over jacks mom when it comes to seeing a grandchild that is the first born in both families? Just because Eve is the one who gave birth does not make her the ONLY decision maker and I say that at 8months pregnant. Would I love for my mom to be first to meet my baby? Sure. But if she couldn’t make it and my husband’s family got there first, so be it. We all will hopefully have a lifetime with the baby so it doesn’t matter who sees her first.
Eve absolutely deserves everything she has coming to her in regards to Jack’s hatred. The nerve to leave to “teach him a lesson” as if she didn’t ruin his life by being so selfish is absolutely disgusting and unforgivable.
Yeah, my MIL happened to come see my daughter before my parents. She actually left the morning of the day my folks arrived. It never even occurred to me to *think* about who met the baby first.
Y’all saying that she deserves abuse (which the silent treatment and stonewalling are abuse) because she was newly postpartum making a dumb decision likely due to pressure from her mom is insane. He’s allowed to grieve and be mad OF COURSE. What he did ended up being abusive though and nobody deserves abuse. Nobody could’ve predicted his mom would die in a freak accident and if he’s unwilling to work on things then he needed to say he wanted to separate and leave, not withdraw entirely.
@@Duckduckobtusegoose I feel his stonewalling her is more due to the lack of regret expressed on her part. Her reaction to OP’s truthful outburst at the beginning makes me think she feels utterly blameless in this entire debacle. What kind of monster doesn’t realise her mistake in that moment and express regret, share the mourning of her husband?
1st story op is not the a.h, that sis of theirs is the a.h. his mom, she could of seen the baby either in person or video call. Parents on both sides have equal rights to see the baby first, after the birth parents, Jack will always regret not pushing the issue and having his mom drive down. Ops sis is a narcissist and so is her mom, toxic. The leaving and giving silent treatment is supposed to be a punishment, it is not, not for those done with the abuse, I'm pretty sure. Also if his mom came down to their place, stayed in guest room, the mom could still be alive. He probably feels a lot of different things. I would cut out the mom, sis and help the new dad with the baby.
What I don't get is why did her mom not do a video call? So a video call is too much for his mom but not enough for her mom? I cannot comprehend how two people can be so selfish and that's even before the fact that they are mad at him for being upset about it at all.
Also, I think the chuckle OP made is more out of disbelief. Not out of mockery.
@@AugustVirgo_91 I agree, I did the same thing listening to the story.
@@AugustVirgo_91Yep. I bet it was the F-ing entitlement.
The pos not only took away the possibility of the MIL to meet her grandbaby but she also thinks she's in the right and her and mommy dearest appear to be hella delusional thinking the husband is in the wrong.
I had moments when thinking "this is too stupid to be happening" and a chuckle came out without intending too.
They asked for it and didnt like to face reality. OP is not the AH and neither is the husband.
I hope it was fucking worth it for OPs sister to have a tantrum to have her selfish way bc I wouldnt be able to ever look at her without disgust or disdain either.
To me it seems like the mom just had to be the first to see the grandbaby. It was a selfish behavior. And it almost feels like competition for the grandma who didn't want anyone to see her before she did. That was so unfair. When my granddaughter was born we were all there in the waiting room. I was ok with the other grandma seeing her first because it was her daughter and she almost passed during the labor. But she also made it short so we could all see her as we all did. After they brought her home she only allowed the grandparents for the first 6 weeks
SO BASICALLY HER MOM GOT IN HER HEAD GUILTING THE NEW MOM BECAUSE SHE (the mom) MISSED THE BIRTH PEOBABLY SAYING “ i have to be the first to see the baby” new mom felt bad and held “ my mom has to see her first” crazy story. husband is a gem!!!! DIVORSE 4 sure!!!!!
Noo the Husband also went to far. 5 months a silent treatment not wanting to do therapy etc.
Driving off not letting her go to the funeral.
He has every justified in his hurt but the way he goes about it is not ok.
Eve could've never known his mom would die and her mom got into her head.
In a regular situation it would not become such a big issue. It would become something they could work out. She is not responsible for his moms death. Her level of Ah-ness just seems far more intense because of the death of jacks mom.
@@Sunflowers_220 I disagree, it’s most likely not the only time the wife was controlling. Specially when she was to pick the name because she is carrying the baby. She is as entitled and controlling as her mother wanting to be the first to see the baby. She didn’t have to agree to the husband’s conditions. He probably wanted to divorce.
@@ily._.1133that’s drawing a conclusion based on an assumption. If we are going on the information given then you have a hormonal soon to be and then new mother who just gave birth with her mom in her ear whom she is obviously very close with. The choices she made in this scenario were controlling but there is absolutely zero evidence of that being a frequent behaviour. He lost his mom at an insane time in his life and rightfully holds resentment towards his wife. At that point you leave, you do not give the silent treatment for five months. Contrary to what many believe the silent treatment when given for long periods of time or in retaliation to behaviours one does not like IS considered abuse.
@@Duckduckobtusegoose she gets no sympathy from me specially when she couldn’t see his side and decided to “give him a lesson” when she left him. Which she should have done long before and left him at peace without her presence. It wasn’t until Op laughed and told her the painful truth that she realized her delusion. Op said he still is angry and resentful, and I don’t blame him. The silent treatment is a no brainer, he despised her at that moment but stayed for the baby. The fact that he is willing to go to couple’s therapy is because he still loves her, but he is not willing to ever go through the same situation or pain so he made conditions. I myself do not do nor tolerate silent treatment, but I thank god my mother is still with me. I would not know how I would react in his situation. That is why I don’t understand why she stayed.
Eve's mom has called all the shots for their entire marriage. Now Jack is calling the shots. If it doesn't even out, this marriage is doomed. However, I totally understand where Jack is coming from.
I laugh in uncomfortable situations so I would see myself laughing as well.
Right, I feel like she laughed at the audacity
and I imagine the conversation had been going for months already between the sister and the mom, about Jack just needing time, while it had already been a year since they were separated. I would scoff laugh too if I heard the same audacity and entitlement that "he'll just get over it" after they didn't allow his mom to see her grandchild...
@@warwick3039 that’s the thing though. he DOES need to move past it in order to heal himself. also it’s not like his mother was actively dying and she denied her. it would’ve been been completely fine if his mother hadn’t died, but she couldn’t have known that would happen. he is placing all the blame on her even though he agreed to her conditions. she clearly has her own mommy issues that need to be addressed, but he is acting like he didn’t participate in enabling her and her mother
@@partiallyhealedsunburn1881 my point was that OP was not an AH to tell the sister all those things. If anything, OP telling the sister to wake up seems to have made her talk it out with the husband, even if their arrangement seems just as deranged...
As for the husband, it's true, no one could have knows his mother would die. But that doesn't mean he will be able to remove the tragedy from the wife and her crazy mother. They didn't allow even a video call??? I honestly don't think I could ever forgive them, or even if I did, the relationship would never be the same.
And to add to that, the wife left for half a year to what? punish him for mourning his mother? :)))) As a straight woman, I'd throw the whole wife away, she's not a person who seems ready to be in a relationship with someone other than her damn mother.
Regarding the first story, my dad always told me something along the lines “seconds, seconds determine the outcome of your life, wether you’re a few car lengths ahead in traffic or behind, wether you get caught in an accident or someone else, second’s determine life and death. Time is one thing you can’t get back.”
He would say that when someone would fly by going way too fast or when we’d here a car engine flying by in the distance. It’s a great reminder.
He would also use it in the context of valuing your own time, to use it wisely because it truly is one of very few things you can’t get back.
In story 1, how could Eve forgive herself for that? As someone whose dad will never get to meet her baby it’s devastating enough. Then to think it was because she and her mom were being selfish.
It's easy to forgive yourself when you're the problem and not the one affected negatively. Seen it waaaay too many times to believe anything different
In the first story they DID give a reason for not wanting the baby meeting anyone: OPs mom was to be the first grandma to meet the baby. No germs, nothing. Just disgusting
The first story I would immediately file for divorce and go scorched Earth
Maybe because i just lost my mom, but I have zero empathy for Eve. I would never forgive her. Sister told a harsh truth. NTA
I swear I'm really amazed at OK Story crew being so... unrealistic... OP gave Eve some tough love advice to understand how she messed up her marriage to Jack.... And they are still on Eve's side?! Hopefully they change their view as the story continues
There is a lot going on. Eve is postpartum and Jack is grieving. I say Eve's mom is the biggest AH here. She caused it all.
The story with the wedding planning: definitely should not get married. The relationship with the sister and the snarky “jokes” are so sus and rude. They should not be together
Fake Freudian slip joke: "You're the breast- Oops, I mean BEST man."
Just make the sister a bridesmaid. Seems like sister is trying to use the being a best man into a chance to stand out. If the bride is not ok with that than that's how she feels. Fiance is a jerk for caring more about the sisters feelings than his future bride's.
agree 100%, sister is not taking into account OPs feelings at all, just wants to shine on a weeding that's not hers. And OP is not focusing on the other bridesmaids because they are all wearing dresses picked by the bride like normal ppl...
And the jokes with the husband are sooooooooo inappropriate, what business would your future husband have to make boob jokes with your sister? repeatedly?? to mock you??? hell nah!
That’s what I was thinking the whole time is “why is he marrying the OP and not the sister if he clearly cares so much more about her feelings than his fiance?” Not to mention making fun of his future wife with her sister by OGGLING HER BREASTS IN FRONT OF OP. Like, what????
I need someone to put together a compilation of all the mouth instruments our favorite hosts make in between reading when they are looking for their place or looking for something in the chat 😊
I wouldn’t mind a compilation of all their spoonerisms and utterly incorrect proverbs, inappropriately bastardised pearls of wisdom and so on. It might take a few hours. 🤦🏻♀️
OMG John and Riley reading a story together is a disaster 🤦🏻♀️
What if his mom had came and stayed with them to see the baby, she may never have gotten in that car accident 🤷🏻♀️ Eve and her mom are beyond selfish and OP is in no way the asshole for telling the truth
OP is NOT the AH. They cornered OP and made them give an answer. Don't ask when you know the answer you're going to get isn't what you want to hear. Also Jack can ice that bítch out as much as HE sees fit for his healing journey. Should they split? Yes, but it seems like he's scared he won't get to see his baby anymore, also same bítch can get kicked while she's down too, almost like people want to be shítty but feel entitled to a lack of consequences for being a waste of emotional intelligence
Patsy Wilson is a riot and we need more of her. Riley, I can guarantee my mother's way worse.
She showed up to my job a week after I started and asked the front counter to call me. She asked them to call me to the front counter "Because I did not check-in with my parole officer that day."
My coworker came around the orner and hissed that my 'P.O. was here!' Several of my nearby coworkers eyes were the size of dinner plates. I was very confused as I don't have a P.O. and have never been in trouble with the police. I peaked around the corner and saw her 80's hairdo and informed my nosy coworkers that it was just my mom.
She now does this to every new employee. 😅 I've learned that she is not allowed to be bored. Otherwise she gets... creative 😂
Edit: I cannot stress enough that an adopted child, is YOUR child. And if your child adopts a child, that is your Grandchild. They are precious treasures that deserve to be loved.
The role reversal in story one is one thing we did in therapy to put the other person in the other's shoes. It worked well enough, but ultimately, if the person is a narcissist, once things even out, it does not stay even n the scale does tip back to the initial controlling individual.
Op telling her sister not to overvalue herself is NOT the asshole; But, instead of telling Eve that she shouldn’t over value herself… the more effective way to communicate would have been to say “Stop undervaluing Jack and your in-laws because they are your family too!”
Simultaneous multiple life changing events cause massive stress! I think all these people need as much support as they can get and no one needs to through any more fire on the situation.
Eve, no matter her personality, is physically recovering from childbirth. We have no idea how extensive that recovery is… even if it was an “easy” childbirth or a massive C section surgery; several weeks are needed for recovery. Hormonal dumps have been happening from the time she got pregnant, and will still be happening for a few months… even if she chooses not to breast feed her child. No matter how prepared she thought she was for the life change of motherhood, I can guarantee She wasn’t prepared for the actuality! On top of that whatever happened to her Aunt, that caused her mother to shift her plans and then miss her flight home (all common and even reasonable expectations, in what seems to be a series of unfortunate events) ultimately Jack and Eve both agreed to have everyone wait… NO ONE could predict the tragedy that befell Jack’s mother!
Jack is in Horrible Grief now, and a sadness so deep his decisions are unreliable, explosive, devastating… all reflections of the deep pain he’s feeling.
Both Eve and Jack need support and GRACE, right now!
Healing and blessings to them and their daughter, whose birthday will likely be a difficult anniversary all her life.
Eves fault. If jacks mom had come down 45 mins, and stayed the week, she could have avoided the car accident.
That last story man- I was parentified by the age of 11. My baby brother was born and my mom wanted to tap out of parenting the moment she could.
He still calls me Mommy, and gently correct him and try to get him to call me sister or by my name.
Lmao at Sophia going to the welcome screen when John got up out of Riley’s lap
Awh Reilly's finally on stream. Like one of the faces not just the moderator!!!!!
My bad producer. Lol
Re Eve's mom, perhaps Jack's mom would still be alive had she been in a different place and time to see the baby.
Damn. Riley makes a lot of high brow smart jokes that no one catches sometimes and I relate with that hard. ❤ for Riley!
The struggle in the beginning was too good 😂
The story of the little boy pushing the little girl into the pool..."Boys will be boys" has to be my all time, most hated, stupid saying. I dislike that saying so much.
I was just told yesterday "kids will be kids" when I told my daughters friends parents that the child (male) was making crude comments about my 10yo daughter getting her period. I hate the "boys will be boys" and "kids will be kids" shit, like no correct your kid!!!
I’d like to see a joke episode of Sophia playing every role of the show. Host, co-host, producer, and host who comes in randomly and alleviates another host to be able to eat/use facilities.
That’s a lot of editing
@@jovitadosch5428 😂 True. I just think it would be funny. 😆
ok storytime, FIRE VIDEO!
With both of our girls births, obviously my hubby saw them same time as me and then my mum saw the girls as she drove us to the hospital for the births, BUT my mother in law and rest of my in-laws saw them via watts app within the hour of thier births after MY MUM watts app video called them for us once we were settled on the ward (they live 3-4 hours away and my sil even drove to my mils house 1 hour from her house as mils phone does not have watts app ability and mil does not drive, so she could see them too), love my family on both sides they are great x
2:05 🎉🎉 the party gets started
The reason why Eve didn’t let her mother-in-law see the baby is because her mother wanted to see the baby and they wanted it to be fair so some of this blame is the mother’s fault. I don’t think Jack’s gonna ever get over it and I don’t know if I could either.
Ooooh he’s a little cutie. Which is as much as I can say without feeling like a creepy old lady.
Omg loving this all I need more Riley behind the mic lol
Sister- Not the AH,
- I think the fact that the sister *had* to say this explains a lot about the wife's decisions at the start of the story. It seems like she either doesn't care enough to consider it a big deal or she is so unaware that she doesn't see why it is a big deal.
- It seems like the wife/mom don't really get it/are in denial. I mean, for a woman who unapologetically prioritized her mom over all else regardless of the consequences (depriving daughter and husband of a chance to bond, straining relationships w/ husband's family) you'd think she'd understand how hard it must be for her husband.
Wife- Not the AH. She is the devil.
- Her and the MIL deciding that MIL basically has dibs, no matter how much time she takes. Despite the MIL choosing to go to her sister's and showing no urgency in returning, the wife unilaterally decided that no one could see her *and her husband's* baby.
- Even if nothing happened to MIL2, that would still be a hell of a grenade the wife threw. What would you do or say as a husband and father? Fielding calls all day and the next asking about your baby and you have to say "I don't know my wife won't let me see her." It seems like that would be so hard to come back from as far as the relationship with the husband's family. It would be one thing to ask for a few hours or until later in the day max...but that's just a slap in the face.
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Obviously she had to offer to go to the funeral, but she would only have caused more pain for the attendees that knew that she denied her MIL the chance to meet her grandchild, which I imagine was the topic of the last conversation she had with a few people.
Mom- The devil apple doesn't fall far from the devil tree.
- She chose to go be with her sister, which is fine, but that was her choice. She can't have everything. What kind of sociopath would choose to leave, come to the conclusion that it is so important that NO ONE can see the baby. But...not important enough to get a flight home? Not excited? Not feeling guilty for keeping everyone waiting?
Aunt- Not the devil b/c her world just burned down, BUT she is the AH. For not just going to where the baby is being born for a day.
Husband- AH to himself for not divorcing his wife. She didn't cause the car wreck, but her actions before it and her response to it afterward is obviously indicative of someone who is profoundly self-centered and incapable of basic empathy.
1st story: no its both mom and eve. She needed to hear it because its true. Both grandparents at the least, should have been able to meet the baby. Mainly because you never know. Plus its juat as much his not to share as well. What if it was the other way around? Also the mom. Mom could have pushed eve to thinking she neeeds to be the first.
24:52 not ONLY would that be the only time she would be able to see the baby, but it could have changed the course of events that lead up to her dying... meaning maybe she wouldn't have been in that accident...
The sister tuxedo story: I think i hate all of those people lol. They’re all terrible.
Guyyyys 🤦🏻♀️ “Theory” in science is the highest form of knowledge. Theories are hypotheses which are tested repeatedly and never disproven. In colloquial English we use theory completely differently as something that is just theoretical, but in science, it is basically the opposite lol. For example, germ theory, evolutionary theory, etc. These are as close to fundamental truths as we can get 😆
I'm loving this unhinged Riley 😂
Clinton was in "Dog with a Blog", that's why his emoji is the dog one. XD
haha... I also found him on imdb. lol
Riley’s hot takes 🤣😭 what does that chair do to people lmfao
First story I am at the point I think the husband is gonna divorce but he’s keeping quiet because if he leaves at newborn stage his visitation would be very l8mited. This way he is interacting with baby is an equal value to the baby so can set up the stage for 50/50 after weaning.
It’s not Jennifer’s wedding, she doesn’t get the say, and fiancé needs to care about the bride’s feelings about her own damn wedding
To be clear- I don’t like her body shaming sister and I think cosplay would have been way cooler BUT why is the sister doubling down so hard? That’s weird and so is the way sister and fiancé are shit talking her too.
Yeah everyone totally sucks here
My jaw dropped too, i didnt see that coming with story 1
Riley is so adorable from this angle 😂
If I was in the sisters shoes I would never be in that situation. I acknowledge my mother is a narcissist.
My sister in law won't let anyone have pic of her daugher or hold her. She doesn't want her sisters to see or even know she had a baby. She thinks her sister has the jinn in her
ok storytime, Awesome video!
100% eve and mum’s fault. They deprived jack’s mother her only chance to ever meet her grandchild. they deserve to live with that guilt for the rest of their lives.
That post about the name change was mine 😅 it was a whole saga
2:10 start time
Ok story time: my elementary school class was notorious for bullying. Over the 9 years from K-8th grades, around 7 kids left to go to other schools due to bullying. One of the big problems was that the parents enabled and encouraged the behavior and were very cliquey themselves. They saw their children as perfect angels who could do no wrong. Needless to say, I was one of the kids targeted by bullies. At one point a girl I’ll call S was bullying me in the same way over and over again like clockwork during every recess and break. I told my mom and older sister by three years what was happening and the next day at school, my sister, a decidedly tiny and weak person in comparison to S who was quite athletic, goes up to her and says “hey, I don’t like how you are treating my sister. I’m watching you.” And apparently that vague statement from a 10 year old made to this 8 year old bully was enough to send her crying to her mother terrified. The school administrators ended up getting involved and my sister had to apologize which was ridiculous because they never did anything when us bullied kids spoke up and asked for help. Her mom was in such a tizzy about it. And you know what? For the most part, it worked! S was less openly hostile to me after that point. It’s just a funny story that my family still laughs about to this day.
First story not the a-hole. I've heard this story told before. Eve is evil and horrible. I can't believe you guys defended her, it's actually gross what eve did. Eve is horrible and she deserves to be divorced. The poor husband is the only one I feel sorry for, that and the baby
Last story RUINS Sibling relationships. Older kids are siblings, not the parents.
In Some cultures people do not like others to have access to a child because of superstition of evil / ill will. Eg. Don't let people have access to photo because someone can curse the child via the image. Don't let anyone hold the newborn because negative energies will be placed on child by jealousy
I would've asked my sister to be my bridesmaid to avoid all this, however I would want her to pick a specific dress that I was comfortable with for my wedding. I'm a woman with a large chest and so I prefer not to draw too much attention in formal settings and especially at someone else’s event.
I had to host my besties BD so I missed the live but so happy to watch it now!
1st story, I probably could never forgive my partner if that happened.
Grandmother didn’t get to see grandchild story- That was the babies mother’s fault and the father’s fault because he allowed that to happen. He should have stood up to his wife and insisted his mother be allowed to see his baby. Wife’s mother should have been on a plane as soon knew the mother was in labor. If no plane was available get in the car and go.
1st story, mom and sis are aholes, not op... If after one year of no contact from her husband she still thinks he will forgive her, then she delulu AF. OP might be a bit rude, but someone needed a reality check, I guess. keeping stepmom from seeing the baby before mom was a dick move. I would understand if it was one day or two, but three weeks ? Please, she's as much Lori's grandma than op's mom. And the sis had the galls to leave her husband to teach him a lesson ? No, please, she's irredeemable.
It is very tit for tat but if it's working for them, it doesn't matter what we think. It sounds like baby steps that are successfully making progress towards healing their marriage 🤷🏼♀️
16:20 The reason was because Eve wanted her mom to meet the baby before anyone else in the family.
She left to punish her husband. OP is NTA, the sister is horrible and weaponizes her kid.
Eve needed a reality check. Op is not the AH for telling her the truth about why her husband is done with her.
Your car isn’t IN the driveway, but it is in the way of being able to see oncoming traffic while exiting the driveway…
My daughter's name is my middle name and my great grandmother's name is a Slovakian name. My mother died and I chose my daughter to have her middle name be my mother and first name be my great grandmothers and my middle name. She has her dad's last name and hyphened my last name as well.
Every family is different but that sister who kept the baby away is so cruel it's just evil 😔
story 1 why do people punish others when they ask questions? the mother and sister pressed her for why she laughed, yea she could have held back sure but the sister left while dude was mourning.
He can never leave to his moms again 🥺
dont ask questions you dont want answers to.
What is it with people and the whole you're only family if you share DNA thing? If they're seen as family then they're family.
John didn't do well on the reading comprehension part of standardized tests in school, did he?
No lol
I fear the wife NOT allowing his mom to see the baby and then her passing away before our getting to see her or even a photo is going to be a resentment that tears their family apart…😖😣
ok storytime, nice content keep up the good content
Eve and her mom clearly see themselves as more important than the paternal side of the family. At the end of the day that's jacks baby too, and his mom had as much of a right to meet the baby as Eves' mom. Tbh, I dont think pregnancy hormones are an excuse for this one. This shows that Eve will always prioritize her family over jacks when it comes to the baby.
You can pick up a DNA test at Walmart. That's how my sister was proven.
Now both my sons questioned the paternity. I told my son's the same thing. That once you open that door you can not close it. So be sure you are ready for the answer. Regardless, I told them both that no matter their choice they are still my grandkids and I would not change that as id been part of their lives for 6,4 and 1 yr. Both son's decided to leave well enough alone. My oldest son told me that someone did it for him. My youngest son's ex wife is currently pregnant and even though it's not my son's child we all collectively told her if we do for one we'll do for both. Both her and her new partner were happy to hear that. Children are innocent. They didn't ask to be here and it sucks to see them treated differently because of biology.
This is how I can really tell these three are young, first of all everyone missed the very first part of the story when she doesn’t even bring up how she met Matt. Shelley goes into how her sister Jennifer met Matt. They’ve always worked in the same company, they’ve made sure they have the same schedules. Their collage degrees are even the same!! OP doesn’t say one word about they met!! She talks about her fiancé Matt and her sister Jennifer have the same hobbies and how they play almost every night with her, from either video games or D&D. Where is there anything about what Matt does with OP? Where does it say he carves any time out for OP??
Now while yes this is his wedding as well, but Jennifer is STILL her sister, she should have gone to her sister and said while I’m his best man I’m STILL your sister. Now I’d like to have my friend make my dress, would you come with me to help design it? And the groomsmen always color match the bridesmaids so those two just doing whatever is incredibly disrespectful to HIS fiancé.
I honestly feel like if OP broke up with Matt and she moved away before she could sign the lease on a new apartment Jennifer and Matt would be together and her whole family would be incredibly happy about it. Matt and Jennifer act more like a couple than OP and Matt. And the way OP describes Matt and Jennifer’s relationship it’s almost like she knows it too.
Why was there a contest for which grandmother saw the baby first? Although it's sounds like Eve's mother created the contest in her mind and it created a mess.
Wait....but what happened to the bride and groom?!?! I don't know why but it feels like the two are sleeping together! Did they get married or break up?!?
Starts at 2:05
groomswomen wear a tux. no discussion. jen is a PICK ME
Doesn’t the bride usually get to pick what the rest of the wedding party wears??? So why is everyone acting like she shouldn’t be able to choose this one person’s clothing? The way fiancé and best “man” are making all these jokes makes me believe that OP likely has a non-zero reason for feeling this way.
Grandma wasnt making the baby a priority bit she wants to be it
I think that Eve and the mother were being so ridiculous with Eve being the victim of everything that’s what made OP laugh. And with that she tried to leave and they wouldn’t let her. If this would’ve been my sister, that this happened to I would’ve told her the same thing because she needs to hear the truth and she’s obviously selfish entitled, and the mother is contributing to it.
The second story with the sisters being the groomsmen got MESSED up in the second update. Her sister and mark and OP’s mom are the AH’s! Ugh I feel so bad for OP. Mark basically admitted to just dating OP because her SISTER WAS TOO HOT and young so he was bored at a party and flirted with op and just went with it even though he wanted her sister! And mom blamed OP for dating mark her sister’s “best friend” as she was crying after mark told her all this and said they “needed a break.” OP isn’t a saint but mark is the AH and her sister is the AH for not telling her sister mark made fun and complained about her 24:7 their entire relationship and moms the AH for blaming her daughter instead of comforting her; she comforted Jennifer instead! Maybe that’s partly why OP had such strong feelings about her sister. I hope she just ditched them all and moved away not including any of them in her life anymore because none of them appear to care about her at all
1st story Eve was wrong for sure and OP was truthful but not loyal to her sister. Jack was hurt deeply. He knew how much his own mother were hurt end felt
Clinton is good-looking, but Sam is by far the cutest. Sounds like we need to meet Christian, though 😅
Wow. Clinton!!! 58:09 I miss him
Shingles 😂
1st story: op nta, both mom and sister needed a kick in the butt to get empathy for the (ex probably) husband. It sounds like they’re both a bit narcissistic and this is the reaction of the not golden child. As a person who will laugh humorlessly often because I absolutely can’t believe I’m in a situation I’m in I would probably do a single “laugh” (often it’s more of a scoff. But I understand OP.)
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Clinton, welcome to the silly fam.
I was just wondering if John yawns when he is reading Is because he is quite a fast talker and he is not getting enough air in during his reading he sort of takes in little gasps of air but not really taking in breaths just an observation ❤
Wait a minute! Sam's on his back side doing what?😅 1:36:45
hey BIG PROTEIN i love love you like love. the voice. the like everything you’re so sweet and funny. READING THE STORIES IS NOT YOUR STRENGTH!!!! your comments are so funny. let’s stick to that. reading is a bit dry
I love you guys, but OMG this is so hard to listen to!