On my Chinese scoot, it broke down and left me stranded twice. Both were wires that had become disconnected - one going into the coil and one into the CDI. Both wires missed by the AA recovery guy (UK breakdown service) Maybe this poor quality control on the harness causes the unreliability of both cdi and coil on these machines. In the UK all 125’s registered after 2018/2019 by law have to run fuel injection. This is a real sore point for me as these bikes now have lambda sensors and electronic fuel pumps and a whole host of other things to go wrong. I’m so happy you are continuing with this as last video I thought you were done 😂 keep it up mate this is science and I’m hopeful you now get a few K’s in trouble free 👍
Alot of things I have found on my wife's tao tao are usually simple and stupid build quality issues. Thankfully it was a simple fix for you! Great tao tao series!
It is a fuel mixture screw on the side of the carb! Turn that so the ideal goes down far, after that turn up the ideal. That worked for me, now the spark plug it is chocolate brown 😊😊
The ONLY motorcycle I have had anything to do with that had a decent toolkit on it, was a Russian 250 whose name escapes me. Just using the supplied tool kit I was able change a broken spring in the gear box with a length of clock spring.
I've been buying cheap baotian clones that won't start or are hard to get to run and it tends to be 100% valve adjustment issues. Suprises me that people won't do such a fast and easy task as adjust the valves. I have 6km to work and I do get quicker to work with the scooter than with the car, at a fraction of the cost. With the cheap China clones you might have to live with some rattling and breaksensor issues, but man, it's a cheap way to get to and back from work. And yes, I recommend having a small wrench with 10 mm and 8mm with you. I do really enjoy your videos " living with a Tao Tao. Just remember folks, if you have snow during winter, use studded winter tiers. Last winter I crashed in the snow 4 times on the way to work. Still got there..
If you're NOT MECHANICALLY INCLINED just stay away from old motorcycles or Chinese bikes. That's pretty much the jist of it. If you are Mechanically Inclined then You'll have no real issues anytime stuff like this happens. I have 5 motorcycles all in running condition and NONE OF THEM initially cost me over $1000Usd to obtain. They have Cost me however, Hundreds of hours of my labor which once again, I don't mind because I enjoy it. Pick and choose what you want to do....
GY6 are great to learn how to wrench on. They are incredibly simple engines. But in my experience there's a rather large difference in quality and reliability between a GY6 and a 139QMB. An actual GY6 from Kymco or Honda is pretty much bulletproof. With a bit of maintenance, they will run pretty much for ever. A 139QMB however, that's a crap shoot if there ever was one.
@@fermitupoupon1754 My 150cc Lance Moped Gy6 Developed a Rod Knock at 8000 miles. I took it apart and noticed that theres no replacing the piston rod separately from the crankshaft. It was cheaper just buying a complete new motor than replacing the shaft and rod assembly. A brand new Gy6 150cc short case cost 300 US dollars.
@@fermitupoupon1754 139QM is the best part of Chinese scooters. Except for the back end of the variator sometimes. The wiring harness and variator belt are really stops in the journey.
Yep. I had an atm50 as my daily driver for a year. It took some effort and minor repairs but overall, it was reliable and never stranded me. Paid $380 for it in basically new condition, less than 400km on it then and I rode it for about 7000km before it was stolen.. I upgraded to a rebel250 9 months ago, from another taotao (was also fine) which has been a much better bike though.
@@fermitupoupon1754 never had an real problems with 139qmb mopeds. I find most of the time people neglect servicing their transportation than actual bad built quality. In my eyes an gy6 even from Kymco always needs some if not complete adjustment from valve to timing and carb. When all that's done any gy6 will run for a good 50k with valve and oil replacement done ever 5ks ish.
Rain and Chinese scooters do have a good relationship AT ALL! On my Tao Tao scooter I got caught in heavy rain and ended up getting my carburator drenched! I had to walk my 220 lb scooter up steep hills home but luckily my local scooter mechanic was able to tow me home, for $20. Here's more updates in my experience with a Tao Tao, for a while my horn sounded very low, which turned out the wiring was loose, so I taped it, sounds nice and loud again. However, as fragile as the parts are, by taking the front cover off I accidentally broke off the plug that controls the head lights! Had to spend $100 on a whole new assembly!😩 I mean I kinda fixed it by using electrical tape but don't know how long it'll last, so I spent the money just in case! Then a few days ago my scooter kept on shutting off on idle which turned out that my spark plug went bad, spent another $15 replacing that! Gee I wonder what's gonna happen next?!
@Anthony Callahan Not everyone does their own repairs or can find the exact part right away. If it was your daily you can’t wait for eBay or whatever auto parts store to order in that 2$ lawnmower NGK plug they might not even carry in store.
I own two Tao Tao Thunder 50s. One I ordered brand new, the other I built from parts. Together they have over 6000 miles on them. This is not counting the miles on the parts bike before I started riding it. I have broke down one time, three miles from home. The belt broke on my parts bike, and I have no ideal how old it was or how many miles was on it. I LOVE THESE THINGS!!! Ride On.
@@Scooter_911 end it, Garret, or after the next issue. You made the point clearly. We should see it as a scooter kid for self-assembly. Anyway, the nature of the problems you found reflects exactly my experience from working in China. They just don't care.
If you look at the black plastic front fairing. The lower portion looks like a screaming/frightened face. This thing was scared of the rain when it left the factory!
I have had one of these since 2016 and the only couple times it broke down on me was during heavy down pours, same exact issues. I suggest relocating the cdi into the battery compartment. Thats when it never broke down on me again.
With all the vehicles you have, yet living like you all you have is Tao Tao is all about us, your subscribers. So thank you my brother for making such a major sacrifice bc although I do no have a Tao Tao, this info is helping me IMMENSELY in my journey as a new scooter owner!!
This was probably not due to the water, this was likely the wiring being ... chinesium. I had a Jonway YY250T, all of the power distribution on the front panel was by twising 12-15 wires together, applying a single blob of solder to the top of the wire bundle (ZERO wetting), then wrapping it up in electrical tape. From the factory. The lights / some panel meters would flicker every once in a while until I installed a bus bar and did it correctly. In any event, weatherpack-style connectors are sealed at the back of the connector (as well as the mating interface). It's hilarious that they put a seal on the interface and not on the back side, but then again... Chinese bike.
Kinda happy my IceBear Vision 50 has the CDI up high under the seat bucket. Think that may reduce this from happening to me. Fingers crossed. Only 263km on mine so far.
My first scooter was a Tao Tao, got it for 300$ started Looking at mods and went for it ! Cvt washer gone new coil, Cdi box, pod filter, moved the ring on the stem in the carburetor to allow more gas in. It was fun building it up. Graduated to a 150 cc Rocketa love this thing.
I don't gotta Tao Tao, but I do have an 08 Taizhou 50 that's given me problems since I got it... So I can understand the frustration here... Since I got mine I've replaced everything ignition related: stator, CDI, ignition coil, reg/rec, and sparkplug... Found that both valves weren't seating properly and piston rings were shot, so I'm in the middle of 100cc BBK engine rebuild... Hell I'mma have a new scooter before it's all said and done, but I paid $300 for scooter and have almost $200 in parts, so if it makes it more reliable... I've only got like $500 in it, not too bad I guess... Anyways, good luck with your bike man and happy riding! Much love from SC
You might want to look up "Thousand Dollar Car" by the Bottle Rockets. Although not about a Tao Tao, I think you'll find the song fits the situation you find yourself in perfectly.
I saw a video back in the day where a guy with that same scooter waterproofed all of the electric connectors before he put it on the street. I think he filled the back of them with some kind of glue but I'm not sure it was a while ago.
Onne thing I have learnt over the years is to check every plug, earth, etc., on any Chinese transport device. Most Chinese bikes, quads or whatever have suffered the same problem. Another to watch out for is having the crimped connectors severing the internal wire.
That's the thing about breakdowns. Like losing your wallet, a breakdown can quickly lead to countless unexpected risks. Losing an engine in heavy traffic or in a gang infested area can have a terrible outcome, but so can missing a job interview or a date in court. Every year police officers are injured and killed when their cars, flashing lights and all, are hit while parked on the shoulder of the road. Somebody bent over working on a scooter is much more exposed.
Hey Garrett I know you have been busy and congrats on the new shop... Hopefully all is going well! I just broke my 2021 tao tao out now with 3400km on it... Your videos have helped me so much and I've kinda ran with them ... There's very few shops in my area (NW Pennsylvania) and I'm becoming the guy to bring the Chinese scooters to around here and I have you to thank for the knowledge on these as I'm a automotive mechanic and a lot of those skills transfer pretty good...I ended up doing a big bore kit 100cc and it really made a world of difference on the commute across town as now it will maintain 40-45 on flat pavement but in the next month or so I'll be pulling mine down to do the high compression 105cc big bore kit with a cylinder head that I've ported and polished and lapped the valves in with a A9 racing cam and a nibbi 24mm carb and a regear kit and fresh tires ( I did manage to wear a rear tire out... Mostly due to long straight stretches of riding) but the front is 50% and I'm replacing both to have matching tread and rubber compounds....I ride mine like it's a motorcycle and it's not unusual for me to put 60-70 miles in a day on it when I take it on a long trip and mostly the suspension has gotten better as things have broken in.... Just wanted to share my info to you and all that may read this.... Keep up the good content man!
When a motorhead struggles with a vehicle, that's your sign to not buy it. I thought about a Tao Tao and looked at the Chinese scooter forums... I just laughed at what they did to keep them on the road. I'm a Honda guy who enjoys using the vehicle, not fixing it.
The biggest question I have is why isn't that CDI in the battery compartment which is actually decently sealed? That thing is just flapping in the breeze sitting in the splash zone of the rear tyre, while there's supposedly a good sealed box not 10cm in front of it. Built down to a price, but at what cost?
Myself, i got a 2019 Tao Tao Evo50 "Huragen" in dark red. I was NOT the 1st buyer/driver but the 3rd. I bought from my neighbor back in May 2020 a few months ago with about 1400 miles on it. Since then I've upgraded the 50cc stock carb, upgraded to a stronger performance cdi, a stronger performance ignition cord and new gas/fuel hose. I did this all on my own and not because I had to due to any issues. All with adding a 150cc engine to it, in mind. Haven't purchased the larger engine yet but plan on the next few weeks. I havent had any real issues with mine yet except 1 time it didn't start due to loose ignition cord. I can maintain a high between 40-48 mph so far. My highest speedometer speed registered, was 54 😳🔥😂. Takeoff is shit though when accelerating from a stop sigm or red light. Will return with more info once I put in 150cc engine with new clutch rollers as well 💪💪😎😎. Thanks for all your helpful info and knowledge 💯👍
Once you hit your goal you should do a video on properly maintaining a Chinese scooter with a big bore kit. Big Bore kits are very popular among TaoTao owners to add more power but they say it reduces reliability even further.
Regulators too; If your battery eventually doesn't charge, that's the likely culprit. Just in case, so you don't end up replacing the stator when you don't need to.
@@BigEpinstriping i only had a regulator fail once and only halfway. I can only guess the regulator half failed, but the doide pack mustve survived. Exploded the battery. It was putting out about 20vdc at idle and upwards of 60vdc around half throttle.😅😅😅😅😅😅
Ouch, losing my wallet sure can give quite a headache to me. Nice one, luckily I never had such a breakdown, the worst was my main fuse somehow managed to wiggle itself out of the plug, which made not a single electrical system on my scooter work, not even the fuel gauge or lights, and panicked me.
I don't know if you've seen it, but UA-cam channel Mustie1 just posted a video where he is fixing a 1961 Centaur 49cc scooter that folds into a suitcase. Thought you might find it interesting.
Young man I love all your videos you are by far one of the most comprehensive with us being your customers in mind. I own the scooter shop and I would buy 30 Chinese scooters at a time brand new at the box you beep the horn in the blinkers would come on I would put 50 miles on every scooter before I sold it every scooter came equipped with a CDI box spark plug extra fuel pump as well as a headlight bulb with instructions change your oil every 500 miles change your gear oil every 400 MI if it was a rainy season type if you driven it several times in downpour rain change it every 300 miles motor oil 500 Miles Euro 300 miles adjust your valves every 700 MI I had customers getting 4,500 to 7,500 MI before any issues. Cost on them or $430 I would add $100 for assembly I would sell them for $999
Me and my friend have been taking care of a chinese scooter for a few years now. It had the same type of cdi connector and the ground fell out of the connector housing multiple times to the point of us relocating it so you could plug the cable back in without removing any fasteners. Our "improvement" was to change the connector(s) to a single square style one and changing the cdi to suit. Never had a problem after that. Make sure to get a CDI that fits the electrical system if you do this mod. The CDI on yours should be a five pin with AC power from the stator? DC/battery powered CDIs also exist with a single square connector but they are less common, at least from what i have seen.
Super enjoy the channel. Many of us newer scooter owners rely on the internet to buy parts. I bought a couple of starters for my Buddy 125. Of course they didn’t fit. But for 18.00 I wasn’t really that worried. I cut the back off my original one, and welded it to my new one. Works pretty good. Those cheap ones must b for a smaller engine. Their diameter is slightly smaller, so less torque. It would b nice if u could do a vid on the differences in gaskets and parts. The gaskets I ordered were wrong so I had to make one for the starter clutch cover. I was going to just use grey silicon. Do ever just use silicon. Anyhow, have not had to use kick starter anymore!! New starter clutch fit and works great!!
What I have learned is to buy another one as cheap as possible and get use to carrying a few spare parts. They are cheap for them anyway but very cheap if you know how to do these things on your own and learn how not to be at the mercy of your machine. I had a belt break on mine when I first got it and thats Avery valuable lesson. Not an easy job to begin with but if you can do that on the roadside then thats a deal breaker because everything else ( besides a major motor malfunction) you should be able to handle yourself when owning one.
Thing I noticed about the CDI plug was the lack of rubber boot on the wiring harness to keep water off the plug, common reason chinese copies of products can undercut prices of competitors.
GY6 based scooters are awesome and the most reliable when you actually do the proper adjustment before running it. In terms of some of the skip costs like weather proofing and such use some silicon paste for electronics. It will keep water out for years to come.
When I was younger didn't mind the rain. If you wait a little itr usually lets up. Two points of contact on wet oily asphalt is dangerous. Felt bad about you losing your wallet though. Very entertaining& keep up the good work.
Running mine right out the box here. I just use it for my small lil town to go to Piggly Wiggly, or dollar store for grocery shopping. No other vehicle and it's cheap, and no licence or insurance etc needed here.
Very good series. Makes me appreciate my Vespa. Although i have to say that shortly after i bought it , the spark plug screw end came off in the suppressor cap. That took some finding.
Hey Garrett seesing there is one way you can keep the cdi protected can you cover it in some seranwrap over it wrap it around the cdi connected twice before you put it back in to the rubber boot holder and it will keep water from going in the connections it will actually keep it dry and yes you can still ride it in the rain lol
I AINT GOING LIE YOU NEED TO COME DOWN TO SAINT MARTIN (French side) I REALLY NEED YU TO FIX MY KYMCO AGILITY 50cc 4 STROKE I think it’s my relay or black box idk it not even making notice when I try start it
I know you think you've fixed the issue with the ground wire, but would you move the cdi, or try and waterproof it more?, it seems to be in a stupid place. On my scooter which has a 125cc GY6, the cdi is up and to the right of the under seat bucket and attached to the frame in a waterproof bag / shroud, never had an issue with it and I ride it in all kinds of weather. But great video showing the roadside fix, and I'm with you on the crappy toolkit and the need for a decent 10mm socket and T-handle.
I've got the Retro version of the TaoTao, which is basically the same scooter, just with "vintage style" fairings, 50cc as well. The CDI on mine is up high as well and attached to the frame. This video was helpful though, because I have a separate scooter (Kymco Agility) with the same QMB139 engine and it just randomly died on me the other day and I didn't know why. Maybe I should check the cdi on it! So now I may go ahead and inspect the wiring on both my scoots to ensure this doesn't happen to me.
Omg this is where I'm at now. I was riding home in the rain the other night and it just shut off at a red light and wouldn't start. I have a 2022 Tao Tao lancer 150cc. It's not getting any spart so I order the CDI, coil and stator and they are coming tomorrow. It's 2 am and as soon as the sun comes up I'm going out to check the wiring. I really wish I seen these videos 2 months ago before I bought my tao tao. I didn't know anything about scooters but very mechanically inclined. Now that I know what I know I wish I got a yuma or a Honda ruckus.
Me and a friend of mine we have the same problem with ours and I didn't figure out the main reason for it not sparking. But it's got to do with the moisture in the air or water getting the coil or something. However you can kick start it still and it will start right away. Both of these have that same flaw though.
Dunno if you remember my previous comment about the loose ground plugs in the connectors, but yeah the CDI one was the other one I always had problems with on my taotao.
My model under the brand "romet" had the module in the battery box under the floor. Never had any problems with that part. It is possible that the floor is same so maybe it is possible to put it there.
Great that you bring up that anything can happen and what you do when you are on the side of the street. Like my friend he used to have on his old cars double igintion coil beside the original one. Think basic tools is voltage-meter small one, sockets small, Cable with crocodile clips etc and into a box. I do have in my car and this is useful. Try to find out from the factory what is the weak spot if they tell you :) or search forums. Great work !..
I'm not sure I'd count that as a "breakdown". The way I look at it, that is something which could be uncovered before startup. You must expect to find these types of things. It's not a turn key bike, all bolts need rehearsed, all electrical connections need inspected, all adjustable components need set and clearance of all moving parts need verified. These are perfect for people with a little mechanical aptitude and a willingness to learn. The price point of these things gives me the confidence to tear them apart myself knowing it will usually be something stupid simple as well as cheap. My troublshooting confidence won't be as high if I was looking at a name brand bike which requires computerized equipment and specialized tooling which the everyday bike owner won't typically have.
@3:30 - Yes, i can confirm - no problems with japanese scooter, when ridding wet english weather. Even pouring rain in high speed cannot stop it ;) My previous italian 2 stroke doing i'ts job in same conditions without issues as well.
My Chinese engine blew through the piston and I’m sure it had enough oil and it wasn’t running lean any ideas what could’ve caused it? It could be one of the two though. Any recommendations to clean out a lower end without opening it? It’s getting a top end rebuild.
You've come out of it fairly well, those CDI's in the GY6's are prone to failing, same thing with the rectifier after a certain amount of miles. I've been through 2 GY6's in China and pack a spare spark plug and CDI, rectifiers usully go open and rarely short so that gives abit of time to get home.
Thanks for another video in this series! I noticed in the maintinance log that your muffler came off, anxiously awaiting the video on that fiasco; how close did that happen to your predictions?
Garrett, I'm following your story with the Tao Tao, and I just wanted to revive your good vibes about your yamaha CV80, I currently have and have modified a Beluga which I believe was the Canadian equivalent. Modded some of it like larger Carb, smaller rollers and LEDs. New paint scheme as well as the white was a sucky color so I went with a red. I have pics if you would like to see but can't put them here. I would like to know what happened to yours? Thanks Ray
Yes of course! Send them to garretseesingofficial@gmail.com! My riva80 is a very sad story. Got it for free, it was abandoned and half buried in a ditch. I rebuilt the motor with new bearings, wiseco piston and some other goodies. As i was riding to work one morning a texan crossed 2 lanes of traffic to flip a u-turn in front of me. I slammed into the side of his car and flew over the hood. It folded my little scoot in half. When I got back to the bike the little thing was still purring like a kitten. I ended up selling the motor to one of my customers with a riva 80 so at least that got to live on.
I’d love to see you do a series in the future with a RPS HAWK 250 Or a TaoTao TBR7, they are Chinese dual sports. The CG motors are bulletproof almost. For $1400 they are an amazing bargain. 2000 miles on my tao tbr7 and it is doing amazing! I can do about 70-72 on mine. Would be much more fun and entertaining for you to ride instead of the pony 🤣
Keep fuel tank full. Use anti moisture additive in fuel tank . Carry an extra belt ,17mm socket and or variator removal tool . Or impact . Replace restricted carburetor with an adjustable carburetor. Do not let a chinese scooter sit for long periods of time . The biggest problem I've seen with these Chinese scooters are fuel contamination. Clean variator and weights every couple of weeks . Inspect belt . Variator weights wear out over time . Never use lubrication of any kind in variator transmission. More to it than cleaning or replacing air filter and changing oil. I've bought a many a Chinese scooter due to fact owners almost wanting to junk them. I replace or clean carburetor and make sure fuel tank isn't rust or moisture contamination.
thanks a lot for this video i had a vespa et2 50cc which i converter to an et4 125 was running and then just had issues starting was doing my head in and as i saw this video could relate to me and then i did just what you did and its running thanks a lot your videos help me a lot in fixing my moped
Hey Garret, I have a problem..please consider helping me.. I have an Indian Scooter named dio that is purchased after using by another person.. the scooter wont speed up..i cant go beyond 60kmph or cant climb steep hills upwards.. i feel like something is stuck..so i changed the cvt belt.. serviced the rear pulley with new grease and still the problem is same.. I did a tappet adjustment too.. still the problem is same.. i feel like there is a small compression leak from the sparkplug..the sparkplug is stuck just turns and cannot take it out with a socket please help me
Please, please fix that lean condition. I started riding Japanese motorcycles in the early 80’s, and have been re-jetting overly lean carbs since the early 80’s. Why leave power on the table and risk damage from detonation when the fix is available, and relatively easy and inexpensive?
Oh C'mon, you know how to use the included spark plug socket and screwdriver. Lol. That style has been included in all manner of powersports for well over 30 years.
i have a 80cc chinese scooter. after drilling some holes in the exhaust, i can reach 80kmh top speed. and another 2 125cc chinese scooter as well. been riding em to work for 10yrs plus. coil and cdi replace once only on the 125cc. the fuel cork is the main problem for me. wiring issue yeah. i just run new independent wires to battery and light.
I find it tragically funny that the weather pack connector itself was fine but it was manufacturing error that caused that issue. You have to be in a real hurry, or else not really care, to not slide those pins in correctly.
I say it depends on the person how good they take of it. My fried put 8000 miles/kml. Only thing he replace was the spark plug at 5000 miles which it burnt ou, also now at 8000 miles his belt and variator broke. It all depend on the driver care for the bike. I live in New York city. I put 6000 miles on mine tao tao, name brand boom i think.... tires do run out after 6000 miles. Tires won't grip in on rain super dangerous to brake.. my belt and clutch/variator broke on 5000 miles.... any questions I have answer also. I'm someone who ride all over the city 7 days aweek for the past 5 month i had the 50cc scooter.
I love how everyone is digging this scooter lol. Mine is great 100+ mpg going almost 40 can't beat it. Only thing I don't like is the steering is loosey goosey for real.
Im from the netherlands and I have a turbho rl 50 with 139qmb with 72cc and a8 cam it has 12000km rn and the timing chain is stretched and the timing chain tensioner is all the way out and the drive belt breaks after 1000km everytime
I had a scooter parts shop in Netherlands. One of our most popular parts was the 139qmb crankcase cover, because it breaks easily and often upon use of the kickstart. The entire engine design is a copy of the kymco filly engine. Except for the materials : its made of recycled coke cans. I have never sold a replacement crankcase cover for any other scooter. In China theres a scooter repair at every street corner and repair is extremely cheap. These products are not made for the Western Market, quality wise.
The timing chain tensioner having no more adjustment to it (you won't know this for sure unless you remove it), is a VERY bad thing. I would suggest pulling the tensioner out now and checking it, then replacing the chain if it was in fact at its limit. If the chain gets too loose, it could jump off the gear resulting in engine destruction. Belts @ 1000km means that either (1) there is damage/burrs on the belt drive surfaces which are shredding the belt, (2) the front and rear pulleys are somehow misaligned, or (3) the belt is not of sufficient durability for the power output of the engine. Most engines are designed to cool the belt and pulleys via some sort of fan mechanism, usually on the front face of the drive pulley and ducts in the belt cover. Make sure that there is no damage to the fan fins, and that the ducts are unobstructed.
@@glenndoiron9317 yea i removed it and did check its on its end but if I wanna replace the chain i need to split the engine and replace the crank 2 for the belt i put a different clutch on will see if that resolves it
this is about as real as it gets. Limping your transportation into a parking lot, tinker a bit with limited tools and praying you dont have to call a tow truck.
On my Chinese scoot, it broke down and left me stranded twice. Both were wires that had become disconnected - one going into the coil and one into the CDI. Both wires missed by the AA recovery guy (UK breakdown service)
Maybe this poor quality control on the harness causes the unreliability of both cdi and coil on these machines.
In the UK all 125’s registered after 2018/2019 by law have to run fuel injection. This is a real sore point for me as these bikes now have lambda sensors and electronic fuel pumps and a whole host of other things to go wrong.
I’m so happy you are continuing with this as last video I thought you were done 😂 keep it up mate this is science and I’m hopeful you now get a few K’s in trouble free 👍
lol you're a strong man dealing with that thing. hats off to you my good sir
Well mine is 13 years old 😅
I agree,, dedicated to the cause for sure 👍
@@ragehd2002 but has it ran for all 13yrs. and how much has it costed you!!!
@@joehahn8817 it was sitting for 2 years and i had no big repairs!!!!
@@ragehd2002 are we talking about a tao tao, or just a brand scooter?
Alot of things I have found on my wife's tao tao are usually simple and stupid build quality issues. Thankfully it was a simple fix for you! Great tao tao series!
It is a fuel mixture screw on the side of the carb! Turn that so the ideal goes down far, after that turn up the ideal. That worked for me, now the spark plug it is chocolate brown 😊😊
Got mine strapped a new carb and a good plug. Good oil and I'm going just a hair under 40 mph. It's all thanks to this man's step by step help.
The ONLY motorcycle I have had anything to do with that had a decent toolkit on it, was a Russian 250 whose name escapes me. Just using the supplied tool kit I was able change a broken spring in the gear box with a length of clock spring.
With the toolkit of my BMW R90/6 I can do almost a full mantenace schedule.
I didn't even get a toolkit with my Baodiao Gator-50 S3.
That why UAZ in Mongolia still have a hand crank. You can choose to spend 2 days fixing car/bike or take a 3 days hike to nearest human settlement.
Ural?
I've been buying cheap baotian clones that won't start or are hard to get to run and it tends to be 100% valve adjustment issues. Suprises me that people won't do such a fast and easy task as adjust the valves. I have 6km to work and I do get quicker to work with the scooter than with the car, at a fraction of the cost. With the cheap China clones you might have to live with some rattling and breaksensor issues, but man, it's a cheap way to get to and back from work. And yes, I recommend having a small wrench with 10 mm and 8mm with you.
I do really enjoy your videos " living with a Tao Tao. Just remember folks, if you have snow during winter, use studded winter tiers. Last winter I crashed in the snow 4 times on the way to work. Still got there..
been running gy6 chinese scooters for more than 10yrs without valve adjustment. i even run down wheels and gear bearing and have them replaced.
If you're NOT MECHANICALLY INCLINED just stay away from old motorcycles or Chinese bikes. That's pretty much the jist of it. If you are Mechanically Inclined then You'll have no real issues anytime stuff like this happens. I have 5 motorcycles all in running condition and NONE OF THEM initially cost me over $1000Usd to obtain. They have Cost me however, Hundreds of hours of my labor which once again, I don't mind because I enjoy it. Pick and choose what you want to do....
GY6 are great to learn how to wrench on. They are incredibly simple engines. But in my experience there's a rather large difference in quality and reliability between a GY6 and a 139QMB. An actual GY6 from Kymco or Honda is pretty much bulletproof. With a bit of maintenance, they will run pretty much for ever. A 139QMB however, that's a crap shoot if there ever was one.
@@fermitupoupon1754 My 150cc Lance Moped Gy6 Developed a Rod Knock at 8000 miles. I took it apart and noticed that theres no replacing the piston rod separately from the crankshaft. It was cheaper just buying a complete new motor than replacing the shaft and rod assembly. A brand new Gy6 150cc short case cost 300 US dollars.
@@fermitupoupon1754 139QM is the best part of Chinese scooters. Except for the back end of the variator sometimes. The wiring harness and variator belt are really stops in the journey.
Yep. I had an atm50 as my daily driver for a year. It took some effort and minor repairs but overall, it was reliable and never stranded me. Paid $380 for it in basically new condition, less than 400km on it then and I rode it for about 7000km before it was stolen.. I upgraded to a rebel250 9 months ago, from another taotao (was also fine) which has been a much better bike though.
@@fermitupoupon1754 never had an real problems with 139qmb mopeds. I find most of the time people neglect servicing their transportation than actual bad built quality. In my eyes an gy6 even from Kymco always needs some if not complete adjustment from valve to timing and carb. When all that's done any gy6 will run for a good 50k with valve and oil replacement done ever 5ks ish.
Rain and Chinese scooters do have a good relationship AT ALL! On my Tao Tao scooter I got caught in heavy rain and ended up getting my carburator drenched! I had to walk my 220 lb scooter up steep hills home but luckily my local scooter mechanic was able to tow me home, for $20.
Here's more updates in my experience with a Tao Tao, for a while my horn sounded very low, which turned out the wiring was loose, so I taped it, sounds nice and loud again. However, as fragile as the parts are, by taking the front cover off I accidentally broke off the plug that controls the head lights! Had to spend $100 on a whole new assembly!😩 I mean I kinda fixed it by using electrical tape but don't know how long it'll last, so I spent the money just in case! Then a few days ago my scooter kept on shutting off on idle which turned out that my spark plug went bad, spent another $15 replacing that! Gee I wonder what's gonna happen next?!
@Anthony Callahan Not everyone does their own repairs or can find the exact part right away. If it was your daily you can’t wait for eBay or whatever auto parts store to order in that 2$ lawnmower NGK plug they might not even carry in store.
I own two Tao Tao Thunder 50s. One I ordered brand new, the other I built from parts. Together they have over 6000 miles on them. This is not counting the miles on the parts bike before I started riding it. I have broke down one time, three miles from home. The belt broke on my parts bike, and I have no ideal how old it was or how many miles was on it. I LOVE THESE THINGS!!! Ride On.
From personal experience, I'd say that soon you'll be calling this series, "Walking with a Tao Tao."
Hahaha exactly!
@@Scooter_911 end it, Garret, or after the next issue. You made the point clearly.
We should see it as a scooter kid for self-assembly. Anyway, the nature of the problems you found reflects exactly my experience from working in China. They just don't care.
LOL!!
If you look at the black plastic front fairing. The lower portion looks like a screaming/frightened face. This thing was scared of the rain when it left the factory!
I have had one of these since 2016 and the only couple times it broke down on me was during heavy down pours, same exact issues.
I suggest relocating the cdi into the battery compartment.
Thats when it never broke down on me again.
With all the vehicles you have, yet living like you all you have is Tao Tao is all about us, your subscribers. So thank you my brother for making such a major sacrifice bc although I do no have a Tao Tao, this info is helping me IMMENSELY in my journey as a new scooter owner!!
6:12 Spot on! Wire harness is bad. That CDI location is bad too. The cable tie next to the connectors prevents this wire escaping.
This was probably not due to the water, this was likely the wiring being ... chinesium. I had a Jonway YY250T, all of the power distribution on the front panel was by twising 12-15 wires together, applying a single blob of solder to the top of the wire bundle (ZERO wetting), then wrapping it up in electrical tape. From the factory. The lights / some panel meters would flicker every once in a while until I installed a bus bar and did it correctly.
In any event, weatherpack-style connectors are sealed at the back of the connector (as well as the mating interface). It's hilarious that they put a seal on the interface and not on the back side, but then again... Chinese bike.
Kinda happy my IceBear Vision 50 has the CDI up high under the seat bucket. Think that may reduce this from happening to me. Fingers crossed. Only 263km on mine so far.
My first scooter was a Tao Tao, got it for 300$ started
Looking at mods and went for it ! Cvt washer gone new coil, Cdi box, pod filter, moved the ring on the stem in the carburetor to allow more gas in. It was fun building it up. Graduated to a 150 cc Rocketa love this thing.
I don't gotta Tao Tao, but I do have an 08 Taizhou 50 that's given me problems since I got it... So I can understand the frustration here... Since I got mine I've replaced everything ignition related: stator, CDI, ignition coil, reg/rec, and sparkplug... Found that both valves weren't seating properly and piston rings were shot, so I'm in the middle of 100cc BBK engine rebuild... Hell I'mma have a new scooter before it's all said and done, but I paid $300 for scooter and have almost $200 in parts, so if it makes it more reliable... I've only got like $500 in it, not too bad I guess... Anyways, good luck with your bike man and happy riding! Much love from SC
Can't wait for your high mileage review on this. Keep it up man!
You might want to look up "Thousand Dollar Car" by the Bottle Rockets. Although not about a Tao Tao, I think you'll find the song fits the situation you find yourself in perfectly.
I saw a video back in the day where a guy with that same scooter waterproofed all of the electric connectors before he put it on the street. I think he filled the back of them with some kind of glue but I'm not sure it was a while ago.
Onne thing I have learnt over the years is to check every plug, earth, etc., on any Chinese transport device. Most Chinese bikes, quads or whatever have suffered the same problem. Another to watch out for is having the crimped connectors severing the internal wire.
That's the thing about breakdowns. Like losing your wallet, a breakdown can quickly lead to countless unexpected risks. Losing an engine in heavy traffic or in a gang infested area can have a terrible outcome, but so can missing a job interview or a date in court. Every year police officers are injured and killed when their cars, flashing lights and all, are hit while parked on the shoulder of the road. Somebody bent over working on a scooter is much more exposed.
That is an exceptional point dude.
Hey Garrett I know you have been busy and congrats on the new shop... Hopefully all is going well! I just broke my 2021 tao tao out now with 3400km on it... Your videos have helped me so much and I've kinda ran with them ... There's very few shops in my area (NW Pennsylvania) and I'm becoming the guy to bring the Chinese scooters to around here and I have you to thank for the knowledge on these as I'm a automotive mechanic and a lot of those skills transfer pretty good...I ended up doing a big bore kit 100cc and it really made a world of difference on the commute across town as now it will maintain 40-45 on flat pavement but in the next month or so I'll be pulling mine down to do the high compression 105cc big bore kit with a cylinder head that I've ported and polished and lapped the valves in with a A9 racing cam and a nibbi 24mm carb and a regear kit and fresh tires ( I did manage to wear a rear tire out... Mostly due to long straight stretches of riding) but the front is 50% and I'm replacing both to have matching tread and rubber compounds....I ride mine like it's a motorcycle and it's not unusual for me to put 60-70 miles in a day on it when I take it on a long trip and mostly the suspension has gotten better as things have broken in.... Just wanted to share my info to you and all that may read this.... Keep up the good content man!
When a motorhead struggles with a vehicle, that's your sign to not buy it. I thought about a Tao Tao and looked at the Chinese scooter forums... I just laughed at what they did to keep them on the road. I'm a Honda guy who enjoys using the vehicle, not fixing it.
The biggest question I have is why isn't that CDI in the battery compartment which is actually decently sealed? That thing is just flapping in the breeze sitting in the splash zone of the rear tyre, while there's supposedly a good sealed box not 10cm in front of it. Built down to a price, but at what cost?
Myself, i got a 2019 Tao Tao Evo50 "Huragen" in dark red. I was NOT the 1st buyer/driver but the 3rd. I bought from my neighbor back in May 2020 a few months ago with about 1400 miles on it. Since then I've upgraded the 50cc stock carb, upgraded to a stronger performance cdi, a stronger performance ignition cord and new gas/fuel hose. I did this all on my own and not because I had to due to any issues. All with adding a 150cc engine to it, in mind. Haven't purchased the larger engine yet but plan on the next few weeks. I havent had any real issues with mine yet except 1 time it didn't start due to loose ignition cord. I can maintain a high between 40-48 mph so far. My highest speedometer speed registered, was 54 😳🔥😂. Takeoff is shit though when accelerating from a stop sigm or red light. Will return with more info once I put in 150cc engine with new clutch rollers as well 💪💪😎😎. Thanks for all your helpful info and knowledge 💯👍
You can fit a 150cc engine in that particular model? I'm only asking because I have the same scooter lol.
Once you hit your goal you should do a video on properly maintaining a Chinese scooter with a big bore kit.
Big Bore kits are very popular among TaoTao owners to add more power but they say it reduces reliability even further.
the cdi is notorious for dying. ive replaced those the most on mine.
Regulators too; If your battery eventually doesn't charge, that's the likely culprit. Just in case, so you don't end up replacing the stator when you don't need to.
@@BigEpinstriping i only had a regulator fail once and only halfway. I can only guess the regulator half failed, but the doide pack mustve survived. Exploded the battery. It was putting out about 20vdc at idle and upwards of 60vdc around half throttle.😅😅😅😅😅😅
Which is why I keep 2 extras in my trunk lol!
change the spark plug. faulty plug kill the cdi
Ouch, losing my wallet sure can give quite a headache to me. Nice one, luckily I never had such a breakdown, the worst was my main fuse somehow managed to wiggle itself out of the plug, which made not a single electrical system on my scooter work, not even the fuel gauge or lights, and panicked me.
I don't know if you've seen it, but UA-cam channel Mustie1 just posted a video where he is fixing a 1961 Centaur 49cc scooter that folds into a suitcase. Thought you might find it interesting.
Oh I definitely saw it!
That thing is dope! Can't wait to see it finished!
Young man I love all your videos you are by far one of the most comprehensive with us being your customers in mind. I own the scooter shop and I would buy 30 Chinese scooters at a time brand new at the box you beep the horn in the blinkers would come on I would put 50 miles on every scooter before I sold it every scooter came equipped with a CDI box spark plug extra fuel pump as well as a headlight bulb with instructions change your oil every 500 miles change your gear oil every 400 MI if it was a rainy season type if you driven it several times in downpour rain change it every 300 miles motor oil 500 Miles Euro 300 miles adjust your valves every 700 MI I had customers getting 4,500 to 7,500 MI before any issues. Cost on them or $430 I would add $100 for assembly I would sell them for $999
Thanks so much for this channel. I've learned a lot by watching. I'm getting a used scooter soon and your videos will help me a lot.
Me and my friend have been taking care of a chinese scooter for a few years now. It had the same type of cdi connector and the ground fell out of the connector housing multiple times to the point of us relocating it so you could plug the cable back in without removing any fasteners.
Our "improvement" was to change the connector(s) to a single square style one and changing the cdi to suit. Never had a problem after that.
Make sure to get a CDI that fits the electrical system if you do this mod. The CDI on yours should be a five pin with AC power from the stator? DC/battery powered CDIs also exist with a single square connector but they are less common, at least from what i have seen.
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The tao tao experiment and lessons learned apply to many aspects of current society..well done !
It looked like the ground wire was coming out before you touched the connector. Im thinking the rain was a coincidence.
Thats what I was thinking too!
That CDI is normally located in the battery compartment on nearly all the variants of this scooter so better protected
Super enjoy the channel. Many of us newer scooter owners rely on the internet to buy parts. I bought a couple of starters for my Buddy 125. Of course they didn’t fit. But for 18.00 I wasn’t really that worried. I cut the back off my original one, and welded it to my new one. Works pretty good. Those cheap ones must b for a smaller engine. Their diameter is slightly smaller, so less torque. It would b nice if u could do a vid on the differences in gaskets and parts. The gaskets I ordered were wrong so I had to make one for the starter clutch cover. I was going to just use grey silicon. Do ever just use silicon. Anyhow, have not had to use kick starter anymore!! New starter clutch fit and works great!!
What I have learned is to buy another one as cheap as possible and get use to carrying a few spare parts. They are cheap for them anyway but very cheap if you know how to do these things on your own and learn how not to be at the mercy of your machine. I had a belt break on mine when I first got it and thats Avery valuable lesson. Not an easy job to begin with but if you can do that on the roadside then thats a deal breaker because everything else ( besides a major motor malfunction) you should be able to handle yourself when owning one.
Thing I noticed about the CDI plug was the lack of rubber boot on the wiring harness to keep water off the plug, common reason chinese copies of products can undercut prices of competitors.
GY6 based scooters are awesome and the most reliable when you actually do the proper adjustment before running it. In terms of some of the skip costs like weather proofing and such use some silicon paste for electronics. It will keep water out for years to come.
Just part of the shakedown. I want to see how long it takes to grenade the engine.
When I was younger didn't mind the rain. If you wait a little itr usually lets up. Two points of contact on wet oily asphalt is dangerous. Felt bad about you losing your wallet though. Very entertaining& keep up the good work.
Running mine right out the box here. I just use it for my small lil town to go to Piggly Wiggly, or dollar store for grocery shopping. No other vehicle and it's cheap, and no licence or insurance etc needed here.
Very good series. Makes me appreciate my Vespa. Although i have to say that shortly after i bought it , the spark plug screw end came off in the suppressor cap. That took some finding.
Hey Garrett seesing there is one way you can keep the cdi protected can you cover it in some seranwrap over it wrap it around the cdi connected twice before you put it back in to the rubber boot holder and it will keep water from going in the connections it will actually keep it dry and yes you can still ride it in the rain lol
When my Wolf RX-50 Scooter does this and makes this sound. I squeeze the left brake over and over and it eventually gets mine to start.
I AINT GOING LIE YOU NEED TO COME DOWN TO SAINT MARTIN (French side) I REALLY NEED YU TO FIX MY KYMCO AGILITY 50cc 4 STROKE I think it’s my relay or black box idk it not even making notice when I try start it
Nice work figuring out your roadside repair. That loss ground looked like an easy fix although it was very inconvenient at the time.
I know you think you've fixed the issue with the ground wire, but would you move the cdi, or try and waterproof it more?, it seems to be in a stupid place.
On my scooter which has a 125cc GY6, the cdi is up and to the right of the under seat bucket and attached to the frame in a waterproof bag / shroud, never had an issue with it and I ride it in all kinds of weather.
But great video showing the roadside fix, and I'm with you on the crappy toolkit and the need for a decent 10mm socket and T-handle.
I've got the Retro version of the TaoTao, which is basically the same scooter, just with "vintage style" fairings, 50cc as well. The CDI on mine is up high as well and attached to the frame. This video was helpful though, because I have a separate scooter (Kymco Agility) with the same QMB139 engine and it just randomly died on me the other day and I didn't know why. Maybe I should check the cdi on it! So now I may go ahead and inspect the wiring on both my scoots to ensure this doesn't happen to me.
Omg this is where I'm at now. I was riding home in the rain the other night and it just shut off at a red light and wouldn't start. I have a 2022 Tao Tao lancer 150cc. It's not getting any spart so I order the CDI, coil and stator and they are coming tomorrow. It's 2 am and as soon as the sun comes up I'm going out to check the wiring. I really wish I seen these videos 2 months ago before I bought my tao tao. I didn't know anything about scooters but very mechanically inclined. Now that I know what I know I wish I got a yuma or a Honda ruckus.
well at least you're learning a lot with your tao tao!
@@Scooter_911 Bro I've learned so much about that scooter. So I got all the parts and installed each one and it was the stator.
Me and a friend of mine we have the same problem with ours and I didn't figure out the main reason for it not sparking. But it's got to do with the moisture in the air or water getting the coil or something. However you can kick start it still and it will start right away. Both of these have that same flaw though.
Been missing this series. Hope all is well!
Yamaha cp250 has a recall on a line that can guide water to a connection, the repair is to pin the line up.
Great video man! How about packing a little dielectric grease in the connectors? Way to hang in there!😁
i had the same problem with my 2015 Wacket-rebuild scooter.
a cable from the CDI was too short and was rippt out when driven on bad roads
Dunno if you remember my previous comment about the loose ground plugs in the connectors, but yeah the CDI one was the other one I always had problems with on my taotao.
My model under the brand "romet" had the module in the battery box under the floor. Never had any problems with that part. It is possible that the floor is same so maybe it is possible to put it there.
Great that you bring up that anything can happen and what you do when you are on the side of the street. Like my friend he used to have on his old cars double igintion coil beside the original one. Think basic tools is voltage-meter small one, sockets small, Cable with crocodile clips etc and into a box. I do have in my car and this is useful. Try to find out from the factory what is the weak spot if they tell you :) or search forums. Great work !..
In my country the same scooter has its CDI within the Batteriecase. Dry and clean.
I'm not sure I'd count that as a "breakdown". The way I look at it, that is something which could be uncovered before startup. You must expect to find these types of things. It's not a turn key bike, all bolts need rehearsed, all electrical connections need inspected, all adjustable components need set and clearance of all moving parts need verified.
These are perfect for people with a little mechanical aptitude and a willingness to learn. The price point of these things gives me the confidence to tear them apart myself knowing it will usually be something stupid simple as well as cheap. My troublshooting confidence won't be as high if I was looking at a name brand bike which requires computerized equipment and specialized tooling which the everyday bike owner won't typically have.
Mr. Rocket Sciene the way how I look at it, the story was to simulate the average Joe owner.
@3:30 - Yes, i can confirm - no problems with japanese scooter, when ridding wet english weather. Even pouring rain in high speed cannot stop it ;)
My previous italian 2 stroke doing i'ts job in same conditions without issues as well.
My Chinese engine blew through the piston and I’m sure it had enough oil and it wasn’t running lean any ideas what could’ve caused it? It could be one of the two though. Any recommendations to clean out a lower end without opening it? It’s getting a top end rebuild.
Wifes tao tao took a dump last night . I think the belt broke haven't looked yet. Always something!
Glad you got it sorted and made it home safe.
You've come out of it fairly well, those CDI's in the GY6's are prone to failing, same thing with the rectifier after a certain amount of miles. I've been through 2 GY6's in China and pack a spare spark plug and CDI, rectifiers usully go open and rarely short so that gives abit of time to get home.
Just checking in to make sure you’re still alive driving that thing. It’s been a few days. Lol
Still good! Took a breif vacation to do a little camping but should have a new video up Saturday morning!
Garret Seesing awesome! I look forward to it! I hope your trip was fun!
Its monday already cant waiiit for the new video!
Thanks for another video in this series! I noticed in the maintinance log that your muffler came off, anxiously awaiting the video on that fiasco; how close did that happen to your predictions?
astute observation! it happened waayyyy sooner than i predicted. The welds just plain broke where the silencer is attached to the support bracket!
Professional videos. New to your channel since I just inherited a Taotao ATM50.
Garrett, I'm following your story with the Tao Tao, and I just wanted to revive your good vibes about your yamaha CV80, I currently have and have modified a Beluga which I believe was the Canadian equivalent. Modded some of it like larger Carb, smaller rollers and LEDs. New paint scheme as well as the white was a sucky color so I went with a red. I have pics if you would like to see but can't put them here. I would like to know what happened to yours?
Thanks
Ray
Yes of course! Send them to garretseesingofficial@gmail.com! My riva80 is a very sad story. Got it for free, it was abandoned and half buried in a ditch. I rebuilt the motor with new bearings, wiseco piston and some other goodies. As i was riding to work one morning a texan crossed 2 lanes of traffic to flip a u-turn in front of me. I slammed into the side of his car and flew over the hood. It folded my little scoot in half. When I got back to the bike the little thing was still purring like a kitten. I ended up selling the motor to one of my customers with a riva 80 so at least that got to live on.
I’d love to see you do a series in the future with a RPS HAWK 250 Or a TaoTao TBR7, they are Chinese dual sports. The CG motors are bulletproof almost. For $1400 they are an amazing bargain. 2000 miles on my tao tbr7 and it is doing amazing! I can do about 70-72 on mine. Would be much more fun and entertaining for you to ride instead of the pony 🤣
In my swedish model the cdi is in the battery box between the battery! Very dry there, so move it..
Dielectric grease may help if water was an issue
In my 50cc the CDI box is in the battery tray which is considerably drier
Keep fuel tank full. Use anti moisture additive in fuel tank . Carry an extra belt ,17mm socket and or variator removal tool . Or impact .
Replace restricted carburetor with an adjustable carburetor. Do not let a chinese scooter sit for long periods of time . The biggest problem I've seen with these Chinese scooters are fuel contamination.
Clean variator and weights every couple of weeks . Inspect belt . Variator weights wear out over time . Never use lubrication of any kind in variator transmission. More to it than cleaning or replacing air filter and changing oil. I've bought a many a Chinese scooter due to fact owners almost wanting to junk them. I replace or clean carburetor and make sure fuel tank isn't rust or moisture contamination.
On my scooter I just replaced all the original connectors with Deutsch brand, and that ended any unreliability issues.
thanks a lot for this video i had a vespa et2 50cc which i converter to an et4 125 was running and then just had issues starting was doing my head in and as i saw this video could relate to me and then i did just what you did and its running thanks a lot your videos help me a lot in fixing my moped
Hey Garret, I have a problem..please consider helping me.. I have an Indian Scooter named dio that is purchased after using by another person.. the scooter wont speed up..i cant go beyond 60kmph or cant climb steep hills upwards.. i feel like something is stuck..so i changed the cvt belt.. serviced the rear pulley with new grease and still the problem is same.. I did a tappet adjustment too.. still the problem is same.. i feel like there is a small compression leak from the sparkplug..the sparkplug is stuck just turns and cannot take it out with a socket please help me
Yeah I don't know if it's the water the pin had probably just eventually vibrated loose
Have had a phony 50 for a year no problems did upgrade the carb runs great
I have tao tao quantum’s, they’re new and all work awesome. Haven’t had any issues with them at all.
Love it brother, keep it up. Still want one maybe I'm just out for punishment
yamaha zuma 2015 the only issue i had was the starter switch, cost: cheap no problem.
Please, please fix that lean condition. I started riding Japanese motorcycles in the early 80’s, and have been re-jetting overly lean carbs since the early 80’s. Why leave power on the table and risk damage from detonation when the fix is available, and relatively easy and inexpensive?
Favourite show on the yous of tubes!
Oh C'mon, you know how to use the included spark plug socket and screwdriver. Lol. That style has been included in all manner of powersports for well over 30 years.
Hello, i got the same issue on an dry summerday :D After cleaning the electric Contacts its gone , but maybe not forever.
i have a 80cc chinese scooter. after drilling some holes in the exhaust, i can reach 80kmh top speed. and another 2 125cc chinese scooter as well. been riding em to work for 10yrs plus. coil and cdi replace once only on the 125cc. the fuel cork is the main problem for me. wiring issue yeah. i just run new independent wires to battery and light.
from zero knowhow to expert now after a few breakdown :)
I find it tragically funny that the weather pack connector itself was fine but it was manufacturing error that caused that issue. You have to be in a real hurry, or else not really care, to not slide those pins in correctly.
Thanks for the videos they help a lot.
COLEMAN QMB139 has 1500 on it and no problems.
I say it depends on the person how good they take of it. My fried put 8000
miles/kml. Only thing he replace was the spark plug at 5000 miles which it burnt ou, also now at 8000 miles his belt and variator broke. It all depend on the driver care for the bike. I live in New York city. I put 6000 miles on mine tao tao, name brand boom i think.... tires do run out after 6000 miles. Tires won't grip in on rain super dangerous to brake.. my belt and clutch/variator broke on 5000 miles.... any questions I have answer also. I'm someone who ride all over the city 7 days aweek for the past 5 month i had the 50cc scooter.
Great little video.....glad you got sorted
Thanks 👍
It's not technically sorted until he gets rid of it.
I love how everyone is digging this scooter lol. Mine is great 100+ mpg going almost 40 can't beat it. Only thing I don't like is the steering is loosey goosey for real.
Bought a kymco super 9 last weekend, probably the best taiwanese scooter ever made, the things liquid cooled and can do 45 mph uphill stock.
Im from the netherlands and I have a turbho rl 50 with 139qmb with 72cc and a8 cam it has 12000km rn and the timing chain is stretched and the timing chain tensioner is all the way out and the drive belt breaks after 1000km everytime
Do you carry the tools to change it with you?
I had a scooter parts shop in Netherlands. One of our most popular parts was the 139qmb crankcase cover, because it breaks easily and often upon use of the kickstart. The entire engine design is a copy of the kymco filly engine. Except for the materials : its made of recycled coke cans. I have never sold a replacement crankcase cover for any other scooter. In China theres a scooter repair at every street corner and repair is extremely cheap. These products are not made for the Western Market, quality wise.
The timing chain tensioner having no more adjustment to it (you won't know this for sure unless you remove it), is a VERY bad thing. I would suggest pulling the tensioner out now and checking it, then replacing the chain if it was in fact at its limit. If the chain gets too loose, it could jump off the gear resulting in engine destruction.
Belts @ 1000km means that either (1) there is damage/burrs on the belt drive surfaces which are shredding the belt, (2) the front and rear pulleys are somehow misaligned, or (3) the belt is not of sufficient durability for the power output of the engine. Most engines are designed to cool the belt and pulleys via some sort of fan mechanism, usually on the front face of the drive pulley and ducts in the belt cover. Make sure that there is no damage to the fan fins, and that the ducts are unobstructed.
@@glenndoiron9317 yea i removed it and did check its on its end but if I wanna replace the chain i need to split the engine and replace the crank 2 for the belt i put a different clutch on will see if that resolves it
@@billrimmer5596 need to split engine for that I will do that at some point I keep checking if the chain gets too loose I will fix it
Could you post the mileage at the breakdown(s) that would be additional data.
Absolutely! It is listed in my google doc, but i'll throw it into the description right now!
@@Scooter_911 Thanks, it is just a reference point but for some it is also interesting, thank you.
this is about as real as it gets. Limping your transportation into a parking lot, tinker a bit with limited tools and praying you dont have to call a tow truck.