Ohhhhh if you dont like the dragon veins in Hinoka's chapter I cant WAIT to see what you think of Camilla's Last chapter from birthright BECAUSE OH BOY DO THE DRAGON VEIN EFFECTS GET FCKING BS
I know I'm a bit late, just a tad bit, but I absolutely agree with you. I have a love hate relationship with chapter 10, I hate it up until I see the chapter completed screen. Then I look back and think "Damn that's a good map"
My favorite chapter in conquest was actually Chapter 10, its freaking brutal, thats why a love it! By the way, if you play conquest in lunatic, the endgame is... A-B-S-U-R-D.
Cept Lunatic really shows just how BS the levels listed and a few other are as at least I can blame screwing up in Hard mode on myself and not the game BS me alot less often (Hence why I never go beyond Hard Mode in any FE I've played minus Radiant Dawn since the NA version I played Normal mode was automatically the games Hard Mode, that kind of surprised me first time I played as I realized Hard mode was Lunatic for the first time in the series)
Chapter 10 is a masterpiece. Perfect map design, you get PERFECT UNIT for the chapter and the chapter, it's rewarding to beat it, you can get cool items with the hoyse ect.
i only used corrin as swordmaster with felicia attached and just dodged everything, but forcing me to do that to quickly beat it is just so annoying....
I didn't really mind it, I happened to find it a rather easy way to grind. Most of my units had things that allowed them to attack from two spaces away and I just dashed between dragon veins with my royals. It wasn't to tedious for me to complete and only took one attempt. Now, chapter 10 on the other hand took like five attempts (Very tedious by the end). Definitely my most hated.
+MachineButton03 that's exactly what he says at the beginning, that what he considers a bad map won't be bad to everybody. Top 10's are always opinions.
Difference between being unfair hard and you messed up hard, But he does make some good points unlike....others who just outright hate a map simply for being to hard like a CERTAIN REVIEWER who gave Conquest a low score for being too hard....even when he put harder restrictions on HIMSELF while playing meaning he blamed the game for his own mistakes
Maybe the reason why you have to play chapter 27 again just to beat the endgame is so that you really do lose units? Much like on some anime, casualties among allies are inevitable during the final battle... They want us to feel the emotions of losing an ally or unit... Though those emotions for me are anger and frustration!
How chapter 27 works: The Entrap maidens will teleport the units that are highest leveled (promoted units get +20 to level for this calculation) in order of: Ninja room, berserker room, and then either sniper or sorceror, I forgot. So it's mostly a matter of level. I think the chapter was made intentionally easy because of how Endgame works. It's an interesting concept at least.
OOOOOOOH. now, I like conquest, played it twice. BUT GOOD GOD IT WAS RADIANT DAWN HARD FOR A GOOD MAJORITY OF THESE CHAPTERS. luckily enough, i'm a dark souls fan, I can handle a little challenge. great video as always. and, I can't wait for the next one!
Chapter 10 is the best chapter.... The map design is perfect, sure it's challenging and hard but it's FAIR. It give you perfect and usable unit for this chapter, you can have a pot of bonus via the house if you want to take risk and it's a purely strategie based map
I had to restart Conquest's final chapter(I wanted to see what happened to all the characters during the credits) so many damn times that I just said "Screw it" and went to an easy seize castle, picked up an OP Midori, paired my unit with her and just destroyed it. Didn't feel even a bit guilty.
If the "Worst" is just decide by How Hard the Chapter is I can't agree with you and I mean at all Conquest is meant to be a challenge game Yeah of course they have to be hard but they're no bad chapter so I think you use the word wrong PS. chapter 19 is most annoying chapter I ever play in Conquest
Screw chapters 19 and 24 in Conquest. I had to restart 24 because of friggin Azuma hitting him dumb ass Hexing Rod on my Xander. I STILL CAN'T BEAT IT! Also, all of the endgames in Fates have the "Double level" gimmick.
I barely had to reset in Revelations. I had such a problem though. When I was trying to grind Niles and Peri's supports, THEY DIED SO MUCH!!!! I HAD TO RESET SOOOOOOOOO MANY TIMES!
I enjoyed it , I baited the archers with cam and switched to a spear user to defend while a shuriken user stood ar the back to attack. I spread my healers and used corinn as the spear attack with a partner and sheep spirit for emergency heals. After the archers where gone the spear men and sword men were pretty easy to handle.
Shadow The Anime Artist Yea,plus the final boss gave me a surprise as it is not a dragon which is a typical boss of fire emblem series.I would consider it as my top favorite chapter of conquest.
I loved chapter 21 I grouped my army together with Camilla at the back activating dragon viens every turn I found it an amazing chapter if played right
The Chapter that has given me the most grief so far was the Kitsune Hamlet. I didn't get a Game Over (and since I play Casual, I didn't lose anything substantial) but I still got wrecked harder than Vegeta after his fight with Android 18. The enemy Kitsune are pretty freaking powerful and are quite numerous; combine that with my lack of anti-beast weaponry, and you get all human units not named Effie getting more gang banged than the cast of Rouge One (even Effie's legs buckled near the end). Thank Naga for Keaton.
For Chapter 27, can't you just switch and pair-up units so they don't get trapped in the room? Besides, the purpose of the rooms is not for you to escape, but for you to easily pick off the enemies within them, provided you have a weapon advantage, since it will unlock a shortcut. Also, EASY?!? Those damn Counters and Magic Counters are so annoying that the strongest units can simply die from attacking.
Fun fact: Counter and Magic Counter were nerfed in this game to only activate if YOU initiate an attack. Meaning you can actually let the enemy attack You and they won’t activate.
The faceless reminds me of one of the best things about FE8. In Sacred Strones the monsters have a lot of enemy-only classes making them very differend from the human enemies.
I know I'm like, 3 years late in commenting this? But I honestly don't see what's wrong with this map. I didn't find it unfair, just had a need to be smart and have strategies. Please don't take this comment as an agressive one or sarcastic, but may you please tell me why you think the endgame is the worst chapter in conquest?
Chapter 24's fun-to-fuck-this ration depends on how many flyers you have. Mono-flying was fun; 12-15 movement flyers vs 12 movement flyers gets silly real fast. Yes, Air Superiority is annoying as fuck, but I can imagine Hoshido thinks the same about almost everyone having Savage Blow+Lunge. Meanwhile, the Endgame is designed to test your sanity and/or was made by an Intelligent Systems intern looking to get a full-time job. "Whoever puts the most bullshit into this map gets to stay!"
I actually quite liked chapters 10 and 24-26; I thought they were, for the most part, challenging, but fun. Chapter 17 and the endgame are definitely pains in the asses for me, too, but my least favorite chapter has to be Chapter 19. I just thought the illusion gimmick was SO stupid.
I always see people praising chapter 10. Is it really hard? Yes. But is it FAIR? Definitely yes. It isn't challenging because it's inflating enemy stats to ridiculous levels and shoving artificial difficulty in your face, its challenging because it's well-designed and tests your strategy as a good map should do. I dunno, your reason for putting it and some other chapters on here is essentially "IT'S TOO HARD FOR ME". Which is...kind of the point of Conquest. And for some reason the garbage of chapter 19 is not on this list and the tedious as hell chapter 20 is on your favorites, I really don't get it.
Tbh all chapters are good except some in lunatic mode. Those chapter just give a huge advantage to the enemy like chapter 25. on lunatic all enemies are either ninjas with poison strike and savage blow or Master of arms/those creepy dolls with lunge and most have a seal def skill. but what makes this chapter so annoying and unfair is that for the enemy there enemy exclusive-skill give them the advantage of how all there debuffs stack! meaning you can be weakened like 20+ defense (meaning you need to wait 20+ turns to fully recover) Another chapter I hated in lunatic is endgame. it has way more maids with freeze or freeble staffs and Great masters with hexing rods and all have unlimited staff usage (+3 range to there staves) and Stacking debuffs meaning you can literally be debuffed by 8+ on each stats making that unit literally useless. and the worse part is if you lose you gotta do chapter 27 again -_- but aleast Chapter 27 is ridiculously easy but still that doesn't excuse it. I just hate chapters that give the computer a huge advantage in order to make it hard.
While I liked the level design in Conquest more than in the other 2 routes, the inconsistent RNG really ruined all of Fates for me. I probably just had really bad luck, but it happened so often that it made the game feel more tedious. Also, Ninjas are a bitch to fight 😂
I wouldn't even call it unfair, more just annoying. You can just put Effie, Benny, or some other non beast defensive lance unit like Beruka with a beast killer in a corner and wait.
+Nacho Hangover The crit chance and avoid on those guys and unpredictability of the enemy AI is why I call it unfair. I know all about lowmanning that chapter, even then, Beruka will get doubled and you're fucked if your knights aren't close to getting Wary Fighter. I'm talking about Lunatic, but the chapter is still annoyingly slow and repetitive in Hard.
Late reply, but yeah that chapter was annoying in lunatic. I struggled about how to get around to starting it, but then I waited a turn and the enemies moved to me. After coming to that realization it wasn't too hard afterwards and like a true conquest player I had a lot of horse units. xD Though Chapters 25 and final were way worse, I really do hate the enemy only accumulate skill.
i do normal only and i still fucking hate kitsune trail. if they made a chapter an exact copy of battle before dawn i'd rather play that than kitsune trail
I actually loved Hinoka's chapter, not only is it well structured, but it's also my favorite chapter where the boss is one of the royal siblings. The DV's acting as a double edged sword is well set up, the setting is beautiful, making it easy on the eyes and the conversation between Hinoka and her retainers on their last stand is really heart warming despite how strange they are.
Where the fuck is 19? Chapter 10 is here, where the only criticism is that it's hard and the dragon vein is annoying? Really? Chapter 19 is ONLY based on RNG. The foxes dodge frequently, and they all do effective damage against horses. And they have the stupid leaf where they can't be attacked but then they can attack you on their phase. AND HALF OF THEM HAS PASS! Pass is fine on a couple units, but half is actual horseshit
Chapter 25 is actually pretty easy for me. Every Lunatic playthrough I have done, I have just had my Avatar Killed the lobster on her own. Swordmaster avatar is the only way to go.
After beating it in Lunatic, I have to say the skill "Accumulate" will turn chapter 25 into a 1v1 and the final chapter into Rescue chains(had Elise rescue corrin and then had Nina get danced pass enemies to rescue Corrin, and then one round Takumi to avoid enfeeblex3 maids.). Birthright's Final(King Garon's chapter was way harder) was a cake walk on lunatic since I was able to one turn it by Ferrying Ryoma to the boss and then attacking with Corrin, after a ninja with a forged sting shuirken takes care of the General).
Did you use dlc to level up? cause some of the chapter you mention to be easy they were a f*cking nightmire for me, like chapter 27. I made to end game just with the main chapter and mozu and kana paralogue. and honestly I quitted because just the first round of enemies was enough to kill a bunch of my units. Everywere I saw a gameplay vid they have op units that I can figure out how they made it with just to few chapter
Happy to know I'm not the only one playing Hard Mode Classic, Honestly it's rare to find Lunatic players who don't stick there nose up at you for not going beyond Hard Mode (I like Difficulty, but not at the levels where the game is outright unfair especially hearing the horror stories about Revelations Lunatic being more hard because the programmers were to lazy to change the stats on specific characters meaning you got a Radiant Dawn Dawn Brigade POST Chapter 1 without being prepared situation again)
LOL I randomly died when I suddenly realized the Ryoma footage was RasouliPlays'. I checked like thrirty times before I caught Corrin's name, but still. Wow.
Didn't blazing sword and sacred stones make you do the endgame thing? I remember having to redo the last chapter of blazing sword because I messed up on the dragon. Accept it only had the dragon and demon so they weren't nearly as bad as conquest.
I see your point but like you said the second part of those games was only you having to face a dragon and the demon lord, not go through an entire chapter filled with enemies again.
Agreed. With those you could take your time and play it safe, with endgame Conquest you can't do that at all. Sorry if the previous comment seemed harsh, it wasn't meant to criticize. I kind of worded it wrong.
hm... Rivetting. Thank you Tharja, that sums up that chapter quite well. Also, The first time I played that chapter I wanted to yell "NO FAIR". Then my favorite baby sister came to help. Love you CinnamonBun
RNG on the way your units are placed on Chapter 27? I fairly remember being able to switch unit positions when in the preparation screen. Does the game not let you do this on Hard?
Yes you can, but if you place them outside of the rooms then they'll get entrapped. Someone ought to tell him if that you place a unit in a hallway, they won't get warped.
In the first enemy phase, six random units will get entrapped (forced to teleport to an enemy's location). Each location has a specific type of enemy (i.e. Adventurer, Generals, ect).
Jacob Eppler Actually, they Entrap the unit’s with the highest BST or rating. Yeah, you’d need to look that up to know that or be very analytical, but it isn’t luck based like many think. If you ask me, I prefer the infinite range Entrap version of the level. When you know who they target, it makes the level even easier than it already was. You’ll be glad Chapter 27 is easy especially when you’re dying a lot in the endgame.
Hmm, I agree on a chapter being tedious then it can be pretty bad. But a chapter being hard? Hahaha, try playing on Lunatic mode then you can complain about it being hard. Enemy placement is eh, I get that, but that's part of the challenge. Conquest is made to test you as a Tactician, if you cant handle it then you need to work on your strategy. You know if Robin was in this game it would be-- Oh wait.... he is :x
Salvador Bautista Yeah, it was just something that sorta bothered me. I think his list is fine, a lot of the chapters were quite annoying to go through. But a lot of them were just hard, not bad.
Robin is an amiibo, but its one from Super Smash Bros. Not the real Robin. If the REAL Robin was here, he'd have beaten everyone easily. But yeah, Conquest was meant to be the more challenging one, especially since it follows the same kind of thing from old games where you have to keep going through chapters back to back, rather than being able to grind.
On 15: "Now this chapter isn't bad or anything, and it ties heavily into the main story..." But that's why it's bad! It's the moment when the plot becomes unforgivably stupid and Corrin becomes a selfish, idiotic coward.
What gets me is that he criticizes it for relying on Corrin, and then turns around and says Revelations 7 - which has that same issue, but with fog of war and no unique gimmick, as well as being tedious - is his 2nd favorite Revelations map, and one of his favorites in the game.
Personally, I really like Chapter 10, in fact, I would go as far as saying it to be my favorite chapter in Fates, but there is one thing that I cannot excuse it for... It is a bulls**t difficulty spike! Save chapters like these for later in the game, not just throw it at us at practically the 4th level!
I've only ever played Conquest on Easy/Casual, but even after replaying Revelations and Awakening on Hard/Classic, Chapter 10, Chapter 21, and the endgame are still the hardest chapters I have ever played. Though it is entirely possible that I have just gotten much better at Fire Emblem since then.
The chapter where you fought Iago and Hans was a NIGHTMARE! I remember after resetting at least 50 times, I finally got to Iago and he got a critical hit on Corrin forcing me to restart. I also hated the fact that if you died on the last level, you had to start from the previous level before. I remember when I died and had to reset, I thought I forgot to save until I realized it was part of the game
Also ch 21 is also one of the best. Imo it's a nice escape chapter after them being absent in awakening. U don't even have to fight them half the time. Just rush past them and pop the veins to get past them next turn.
I am going to put chapter 10 as my least favorite all because on the very last turn that I needed to survive in in order to win, and with only one enemy in the way, I died to someone with a 51 percent chance of hitting me... And a 1% chance of critting me. Take a wild guess at which event occured :(
I needed the grinding for Corrin in Black Pillar. I hated the bastard so much I hardly used him, so that chapter actually helped me. Still, I see where you're coming from.
Chapter 23 is literally the easiest chapter I've ever played. You fight enemies that can't move, and 4 enemies that can shoot. It's so easy. Cleared without any deaths in hard.
I actually liked Chapter 21. It really forced me to strategize. I survived by using a ton of Blessed Bows/Lances and Freeze's. It was definitely a change of pace!
I was playing conquest on the chapter eternal stairway and had escaped everyone but keaton, he was on low health and was surrounded by enemies. He died and yet somehow i won, it might be because i was playing on easy mode.
Awesome list! The most annoying part of ryoma's chapter was poison strike & grisly wound ninjas and the lunge mechanists. Also that Iago infinite staff skill was bullsh*t
Don't know what you're talking about on The Hollow King. I was GLAD that chapter was so easy, given that you can't save between it and the battle that comes after it, and it was a stupidly frustrating chore to have to play through Hollow King everytime someone died on the final chapter.
I almost lost the will to continue on chapter 17, and I was on Phoenix mode. The reason I played the game on Phoenix mode was because I was very unfortunate to have Conquest be the first Fire Emblem game I have ever played. The reason was the fact that Female Corrin was on the box art and I was very stupid.
This feels more like top ten best chapters in conquest. Conquests final chapter is amazing. It forces you to rush the chapter, yet still play it defensively. It's super stressful and somewhat of a paradox, and it's fucking incredible. Plus it has a difficult Archer boss, which is an impressive feat in it of itself.
Jonah J the endgame is fine on its own but having to play through the easy ads hollow king every time you die b4 you can play it again is annoying as shit
Fun fact, for stairway to hell, you can just use a few units that are flying units, like Beruka and Camilla. With those you can do a few pairings and just bomb rush for the exit. It isn't easy but it is incredibly fun to win with like 4 units on a CONQUEST level
glad to see you admit Chapter 10 can be seen as both the best and the worst chapter. And I definitely agree with placing Endgame as the worst. Gr8 vid m9, keep it up!
On chapter 21 since you had to escape with all your units, I just brought highly mobile units and beat it in 5 or 6 turns (I forgot which). I had Corrin paired up with Camila, and Shigure paired up with Percy (Percy had no royal blood) and I would send one unit as far as possible, and the other to a dragon vein, alternating as they both progressed through. Took me 4 quick tries, hard classic.
I was really able to cheese chapter 21 with Benny and Corrin. If you have a blessed lance the chapter is a breeze, and they know this because eventually the faceless have skills that give you no exp
I ended up skipping about half of these entries because I'm still not done with Conquest, but I agree with all the ones I saw. Although, in my case the difficulty came from trying to use the majority of my characters regularly. I didn't just choose one group of characters, I used all of them (not including any of the child characters). And because the exp was divided among so many characters they weren't as powerful as the game probably expected. So my characters kept turning into confetti (thank you casual mode). In the end I just gave up and DLC grind-ed until my characters were strong enough, and I feel no shame in that decision.
the eternal stairway ruined my entire life, i played on phoenix mode and shura got surrounded without being able to escape, since he was the only one left.
I am suprised Kistune Lair Didnt make it. That chapter was purely letting Kaze,Effie, and Niles kill everything With beast affective weapons and keaton with his beastbane skill. The map design could be put into awakening, Replace the Kitsune with Pledgian soldiers, and it would fit in perfectly. Thats how bland I found Kitsune Lair.
You actually can steamroll the CQ with just Xander. In fact there's a whole list of characters who Solo'd their respective routes. m.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/4om294/everybody_solos_fates_and_other_fire_emblems_june/?sort=confidence&compact=true Someone did it with only Azura on Hard and another guy actually beat Lunatic with Nyx (No DLC)
Oh, you dislike chapter 26 on hard? Well, wait until Lunatic COnquest. UNLIMITED HEXING RODS AGAINST YOU!
Good thing I don't bother with lunatic on any fire emblem game then. :P
Ohhhhh if you dont like the dragon veins in Hinoka's chapter I cant WAIT to see what you think of Camilla's Last chapter from birthright BECAUSE OH BOY DO THE DRAGON VEIN EFFECTS GET FCKING BS
It's sad hearing that no one plays it on lunatic. Like, get good lmao
I actually don't have a problem with the dragon veins in Camilla's last chapter, in fact that chapter was one of the best in birthright.
ZeroMuramasa This isn't a case of getting good, I simply have no interesting in playing it on the hardest difficulty setting.
I must be a masochistic, 'cause I _adore_ Chapter 10 because of the feeling I get after I've survived and conquered that onslaught!
Yeah
I would think in a way, anyone that plays Fire Emblem is somewhat of a masochist..
I actually found chapter 10 to be a bliss xD
I know I'm a bit late, just a tad bit, but I absolutely agree with you. I have a love hate relationship with chapter 10, I hate it up until I see the chapter completed screen. Then I look back and think "Damn that's a good map"
Not on Hard mode. Never have I ever felt so mad when the enemies do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. If you played the game, you'd get what I mean-
Effie with a Javelin was so fucking good in conquest
My favorite chapter in conquest was actually Chapter 10, its freaking brutal, thats why a love it! By the way, if you play conquest in lunatic, the endgame is... A-B-S-U-R-D.
The whole game is absurd no matter what.
Staff Savant anyone? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Cept Lunatic really shows just how BS the levels listed and a few other are as at least I can blame screwing up in Hard mode on myself and not the game BS me alot less often (Hence why I never go beyond Hard Mode in any FE I've played minus Radiant Dawn since the NA version I played Normal mode was automatically the games Hard Mode, that kind of surprised me first time I played as I realized Hard mode was Lunatic for the first time in the series)
i'm at the endgame of conquest lunatic atm.....
Chapter 10 is a masterpiece.
Perfect map design, you get PERFECT UNIT for the chapter and the chapter, it's rewarding to beat it, you can get cool items with the hoyse ect.
I just realized a pattern: Every Mokushujin chapter sucks!
True
True doh. SCREW THOSE DAMN TRAPS
its possible to hate a chapter more than that fucking faceless stairway hell?
Yes it is.
I only used Xander and Corrin had Corrin pair up with Xander than made a mad dash to the end
i only used corrin as swordmaster with felicia attached and just dodged everything, but forcing me to do that to quickly beat it is just so annoying....
I didn't really mind it, I happened to find it a rather easy way to grind. Most of my units had things that allowed them to attack from two spaces away and I just dashed between dragon veins with my royals. It wasn't to tedious for me to complete and only took one attempt. Now, chapter 10 on the other hand took like five attempts (Very tedious by the end). Definitely my most hated.
play tharcia
He does realize he's playing Conquest on Hard mode right?
There's a difference between a chapter being hard because it is a challenge and a chapter being hard because it has frustrating elements
+ShermTank7272 True but at the same time, what you find frustrating might be not be frustrating to me.
+MachineButton03 that's exactly what he says at the beginning, that what he considers a bad map won't be bad to everybody. Top 10's are always opinions.
Difference between being unfair hard and you messed up hard, But he does make some good points unlike....others who just outright hate a map simply for being to hard like a CERTAIN REVIEWER who gave Conquest a low score for being too hard....even when he put harder restrictions on HIMSELF while playing meaning he blamed the game for his own mistakes
I see it like this normal=easy hard=normal
lunatic=The actual hard mode
Lunatic plus=Vs Chuck Norris on vodka and steroids while in a MEGA rayquzza.
*EVERYBODY GANGSTA TIL RYOMA STARTS WALKING*
Maybe the reason why you have to play chapter 27 again just to beat the endgame is so that you really do lose units? Much like on some anime, casualties among allies are inevitable during the final battle... They want us to feel the emotions of losing an ally or unit... Though those emotions for me are anger and frustration!
Well, most players would save and restart so that doesn't happen.
How chapter 27 works: The Entrap maidens will teleport the units that are highest leveled (promoted units get +20 to level for this calculation) in order of: Ninja room, berserker room, and then either sniper or sorceror, I forgot. So it's mostly a matter of level. I think the chapter was made intentionally easy because of how Endgame works. It's an interesting concept at least.
Why does everyone hate the endgame chapter in Conquest? I thought it was pretty easy...
Geez, I don't know, maybe because of:
1. Infinite respawns.
2. Rush to get to the final boss.
3. Takumi's super wave thing.
+Buck Wade the boss wave thing was annoying but honestly the other two weren't much of a problem
They're either bad, used up all their staves, or only used the royals and effie.
+Tommy Zarate me?
+Tommy Zarate if you mean me none of those were true
23:54 I'm laughing way harder than I should at Felicia's line
21:03 When I first saw Garon in my playthrough of Conquest, I actually read "Ganon" and instantly thought about Ganondorf.
And I am not even that huge of a Zelda fan.
Ha
@@prestononuselogu9973 Garon is a bit more menacing in the Manga.
@@orangeslash1667 There's a manga?
@@orangeslash1667 boo, I like male corrin
OOOOOOOH. now, I like conquest, played it twice. BUT GOOD GOD IT WAS RADIANT DAWN HARD FOR A GOOD MAJORITY OF THESE CHAPTERS.
luckily enough, i'm a dark souls fan, I can handle a little challenge.
great video as always. and, I can't wait for the next one!
Chapter 10 is the best chapter....
The map design is perfect, sure it's challenging and hard but it's FAIR.
It give you perfect and usable unit for this chapter, you can have a pot of bonus via the house if you want to take risk and it's a purely strategie based map
I had to restart Conquest's final chapter(I wanted to see what happened to all the characters during the credits) so many damn times that I just said "Screw it" and went to an easy seize castle, picked up an OP Midori, paired my unit with her and just destroyed it. Didn't feel even a bit guilty.
Same
6:25 ...I freaking love you.
Follow up (sees number 5) CALLED IT!
If the "Worst" is just decide by How Hard the Chapter is
I can't agree with you
and I mean at all
Conquest is meant to be a challenge game
Yeah of course they have to be hard but they're no bad chapter
so I think you use the word wrong
PS. chapter 19 is most annoying chapter I ever play in Conquest
Kitsune galore FTW !
well, he did hate on the chapter before the endgame because it was too easy.
Screw chapters 19 and 24 in Conquest. I had to restart 24 because of friggin Azuma hitting him dumb ass Hexing Rod on my Xander. I STILL CAN'T BEAT IT! Also, all of the endgames in Fates have the "Double level" gimmick.
I barely had to reset in Revelations. I had such a problem though. When I was trying to grind Niles and Peri's supports, THEY DIED SO MUCH!!!! I HAD TO RESET SOOOOOOOOO MANY TIMES!
More money = Higher Leveled (I was trying to both support them and level them up).
I'm surprised that he didn't talk about Takumi having Bold stance in endgame which gives you the broken awakening pair up system
2:06 coughcoughcoughBirthrightBrotherscough
You should get a cough drop.
J hart Might be necessary
Jesus takumi walks on the water and lobster ryouma soloes almosyt any chapter
Chapter 10= my 2nd favorite chapter in the entire series.
I enjoyed it , I baited the archers with cam and switched to a spear user to defend while a shuriken user stood ar the back to attack. I spread my healers and used corinn as the spear attack with a partner and sheep spirit for emergency heals. After the archers where gone the spear men and sword men were pretty easy to handle.
I can't tell if I'm good at FE or not
I swept through hard mode binding blade with no deaths, but I find Birthright to be a challenge.
👌👏🏻
Lol
I like the endgame as it is nicely challenging
It wasnt much of a problem as said in the video it was pretty fun tbh i just got through conquest using my ocd formations
Shadow The Anime Artist Yea,plus the final boss gave me a surprise as it is not a dragon which is a typical boss of fire emblem series.I would consider it as my top favorite chapter of conquest.
Only 5 are dragons, and the other 6 are Humans. Ashnard, Duma, Takumi, Ashera, Veld, and Julius are not dragons.
Ashera's not a human, she's a divine creature.
Hey! Thanks for the details... I have not played all the series so I made that mistake haha
I loved chapter 21 I grouped my army together with Camilla at the back activating dragon viens every turn I found it an amazing chapter if played right
The Chapter that has given me the most grief so far was the Kitsune Hamlet. I didn't get a Game Over (and since I play Casual, I didn't lose anything substantial) but I still got wrecked harder than Vegeta after his fight with Android 18. The enemy Kitsune are pretty freaking powerful and are quite numerous; combine that with my lack of anti-beast weaponry, and you get all human units not named Effie getting more gang banged than the cast of Rouge One (even Effie's legs buckled near the end). Thank Naga for Keaton.
Edward Ramos
tbh I thought I make a choke point on the bridge but I soon realized.
almost all the fuckers have the skill pass
I like this post as It made me laugh
In my opinion, the two hardest chapters were 17 and 19. Those Kitsune have left me scarred for life.
For Chapter 27, can't you just switch and pair-up units so they don't get trapped in the room? Besides, the purpose of the rooms is not for you to escape, but for you to easily pick off the enemies within them, provided you have a weapon advantage, since it will unlock a shortcut.
Also, EASY?!? Those damn Counters and Magic Counters are so annoying that the strongest units can simply die from attacking.
Yeah, this is what I was thinking. Those statements made it sound like he never ever switched his unit placement in this game
Also, I bet he hasn't played on LUNATIC. IT'S SO HARD.
Fun fact: Counter and Magic Counter were nerfed in this game to only activate if YOU initiate an attack. Meaning you can actually let the enemy attack You and they won’t activate.
yes you can....
The faceless reminds me of one of the best things about FE8.
In Sacred Strones the monsters have a lot of enemy-only classes making them very differend from the human enemies.
Endgame conquest still gives me nightmares to this day! Probably the worst chapter in the entire series
I know I'm like, 3 years late in commenting this? But I honestly don't see what's wrong with this map. I didn't find it unfair, just had a need to be smart and have strategies. Please don't take this comment as an agressive one or sarcastic, but may you please tell me why you think the endgame is the worst chapter in conquest?
@@NotADegenerate I'll let you know when I'm too it I'm on 26
Endgame permadeath doesn't matter since it just resets as if you never finished after you finish
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but everyone wants to the characters' ending otherwise it would have list of
retired: endgame
Chapter 24's fun-to-fuck-this ration depends on how many flyers you have. Mono-flying was fun; 12-15 movement flyers vs 12 movement flyers gets silly real fast. Yes, Air Superiority is annoying as fuck, but I can imagine Hoshido thinks the same about almost everyone having Savage Blow+Lunge.
Meanwhile, the Endgame is designed to test your sanity and/or was made by an Intelligent Systems intern looking to get a full-time job. "Whoever puts the most bullshit into this map gets to stay!"
I actually quite liked chapters 10 and 24-26; I thought they were, for the most part, challenging, but fun. Chapter 17 and the endgame are definitely pains in the asses for me, too, but my least favorite chapter has to be Chapter 19. I just thought the illusion gimmick was SO stupid.
I always see people praising chapter 10. Is it really hard? Yes. But is it FAIR? Definitely yes. It isn't challenging because it's inflating enemy stats to ridiculous levels and shoving artificial difficulty in your face, its challenging because it's well-designed and tests your strategy as a good map should do.
I dunno, your reason for putting it and some other chapters on here is essentially "IT'S TOO HARD FOR ME". Which is...kind of the point of Conquest. And for some reason the garbage of chapter 19 is not on this list and the tedious as hell chapter 20 is on your favorites, I really don't get it.
+SuzushinaYuriko I agree so much. Chapter 20 is definitely the worst chapter in the game imo.
Tbh all chapters are good except some in lunatic mode.
Those chapter just give a huge advantage to the enemy like chapter 25. on lunatic all enemies are either ninjas with poison strike and savage blow or Master of arms/those creepy dolls with lunge and most have a seal def skill.
but what makes this chapter so annoying and unfair is that for the enemy there enemy exclusive-skill give them the advantage of how all there debuffs stack! meaning you can be weakened like 20+ defense (meaning you need to wait 20+ turns to fully recover)
Another chapter I hated in lunatic is endgame.
it has way more maids with freeze or freeble staffs and Great masters with hexing rods and all have unlimited staff usage (+3 range to there staves) and Stacking debuffs meaning you can literally be debuffed by 8+ on each stats making that unit literally useless.
and the worse part is if you lose you gotta do chapter 27 again -_- but aleast Chapter 27 is ridiculously easy but still that doesn't excuse it.
I just hate chapters that give the computer a huge advantage in order to make it hard.
While I liked the level design in Conquest more than in the other 2 routes, the inconsistent RNG really ruined all of Fates for me.
I probably just had really bad luck, but it happened so often that it made the game feel more tedious.
Also, Ninjas are a bitch to fight 😂
Umm why exactly didn't you put Chapter 19 in here? It's like the only chapter that's actually unfair.
I wouldn't even call it unfair, more just annoying. You can just put Effie, Benny, or some other non beast defensive lance unit like Beruka with a beast killer in a corner and wait.
+Nacho Hangover The crit chance and avoid on those guys and unpredictability of the enemy AI is why I call it unfair. I know all about lowmanning that chapter, even then, Beruka will get doubled and you're fucked if your knights aren't close to getting Wary Fighter.
I'm talking about Lunatic, but the chapter is still annoyingly slow and repetitive in Hard.
Late reply, but yeah that chapter was annoying in lunatic. I struggled about how to get around to starting it, but then I waited a turn and the enemies moved to me. After coming to that realization it wasn't too hard afterwards and like a true conquest player I had a lot of horse units. xD Though Chapters 25 and final were way worse, I really do hate the enemy only accumulate skill.
i do normal only and i still fucking hate kitsune trail. if they made a chapter an exact copy of battle before dawn i'd rather play that than kitsune trail
highnoon1987 Chapter 19 was very easy as I just gave Effie a beast killer and she just one shot the kitsune
I actually loved Hinoka's chapter, not only is it well structured, but it's also my favorite chapter where the boss is one of the royal siblings.
The DV's acting as a double edged sword is well set up, the setting is beautiful, making it easy on the eyes and the conversation between Hinoka and her retainers on their last stand is really heart warming despite how strange they are.
where is fuga's wild ride?
nice avgn reference u did there toward the end
Where the fuck is 19? Chapter 10 is here, where the only criticism is that it's hard and the dragon vein is annoying? Really? Chapter 19 is ONLY based on RNG. The foxes dodge frequently, and they all do effective damage against horses. And they have the stupid leaf where they can't be attacked but then they can attack you on their phase. AND HALF OF THEM HAS PASS! Pass is fine on a couple units, but half is actual horseshit
Yes I don't know what the fuck they were thinking on giving all of those Kitsune pass.
Chapter 25 is actually pretty easy for me. Every Lunatic playthrough I have done, I have just had my Avatar Killed the lobster on her own. Swordmaster avatar is the only way to go.
30:50-31:10 Nice AVGN reference
After beating it in Lunatic, I have to say the skill "Accumulate" will turn chapter 25 into a 1v1 and the final chapter into Rescue chains(had Elise rescue corrin and then had Nina get danced pass enemies to rescue Corrin, and then one round Takumi to avoid enfeeblex3 maids.). Birthright's Final(King Garon's chapter was way harder) was a cake walk on lunatic since I was able to one turn it by Ferrying Ryoma to the boss and then attacking with Corrin, after a ninja with a forged sting shuirken takes care of the General).
Did you use dlc to level up? cause some of the chapter you mention to be easy they were a f*cking nightmire for me, like chapter 27. I made to end game just with the main chapter and mozu and kana paralogue. and honestly I quitted because just the first round of enemies was enough to kill a bunch of my units. Everywere I saw a gameplay vid they have op units that I can figure out how they made it with just to few chapter
That's because the game expect you to do paralogue to get xp.
Also you need to learn xp management
Happy to know I'm not the only one playing Hard Mode Classic, Honestly it's rare to find Lunatic players who don't stick there nose up at you for not going beyond Hard Mode (I like Difficulty, but not at the levels where the game is outright unfair especially hearing the horror stories about Revelations Lunatic being more hard because the programmers were to lazy to change the stats on specific characters meaning you got a Radiant Dawn Dawn Brigade POST Chapter 1 without being prepared situation again)
Chapter 26 on Lunatic SUCKS!!
LOL
I randomly died when I suddenly realized the Ryoma footage was RasouliPlays'. I checked like thrirty times before I caught Corrin's name, but still. Wow.
now play the endgame on lunatic. nuff said
good videos as always crash and im excited for your hoshido videos cause you are probably gonna like it quite a bit so yea
I fought ryoma alone... it was actually easy for me XD but my corrin was way op.
Key to chapter 27. Just charge Ganondorf get a critical dragon fang and you beat a chapter in 3 turns!
Didn't blazing sword and sacred stones make you do the endgame thing? I remember having to redo the last chapter of blazing sword because I messed up on the dragon. Accept it only had the dragon and demon so they weren't nearly as bad as conquest.
Also except not accept, typo...
I see your point but like you said the second part of those games was only you having to face a dragon and the demon lord, not go through an entire chapter filled with enemies again.
Agreed. With those you could take your time and play it safe, with endgame Conquest you can't do that at all.
Sorry if the previous comment seemed harsh, it wasn't meant to criticize. I kind of worded it wrong.
Don't worry about I didn't take it as an offensive remake it was a legitimate question :)
Thank god! :) It would have been bad to offend my favourite fire emblem youtuber, especially during the long awaited fates-athon.
hm... Rivetting. Thank you Tharja, that sums up that chapter quite well. Also, The first time I played that chapter I wanted to yell "NO FAIR". Then my favorite baby sister came to help. Love you CinnamonBun
RNG on the way your units are placed on Chapter 27? I fairly remember being able to switch unit positions when in the preparation screen. Does the game not let you do this on Hard?
Your units start off in different spots on that map depending on difficulty
Yes you can, but if you place them outside of the rooms then they'll get entrapped. Someone ought to tell him if that you place a unit in a hallway, they won't get warped.
In the first enemy phase, six random units will get entrapped (forced to teleport to an enemy's location). Each location has a specific type of enemy (i.e. Adventurer, Generals, ect).
Yeah, and the entrap bots have infinite range, so whoever gets entrapped wherever is mostly random.
Jacob Eppler
Actually, they Entrap the unit’s with the highest BST or rating.
Yeah, you’d need to look that up to know that or be very analytical, but it isn’t luck based like many think.
If you ask me, I prefer the infinite range Entrap version of the level. When you know who they target, it makes the level even easier than it already was.
You’ll be glad Chapter 27 is easy especially when you’re dying a lot in the endgame.
I liked 17 as the Dragon veins made me think more strategically than any other chapter
Hmm, I agree on a chapter being tedious then it can be pretty bad. But a chapter being hard? Hahaha, try playing on Lunatic mode then you can complain about it being hard.
Enemy placement is eh, I get that, but that's part of the challenge. Conquest is made to test you as a Tactician, if you cant handle it then you need to work on your strategy.
You know if Robin was in this game it would be--
Oh wait.... he is :x
THANK YOU! I was thinking the exact same thing.
Salvador Bautista Yeah, it was just something that sorta bothered me. I think his list is fine, a lot of the chapters were quite annoying to go through. But a lot of them were just hard, not bad.
+Ruby “RPG” Rose L U N G E
+AFK Cyndiquil DEFENSE SEAL
Robin is an amiibo, but its one from Super Smash Bros. Not the real Robin. If the REAL Robin was here, he'd have beaten everyone easily. But yeah, Conquest was meant to be the more challenging one, especially since it follows the same kind of thing from old games where you have to keep going through chapters back to back, rather than being able to grind.
On 15: "Now this chapter isn't bad or anything, and it ties heavily into the main story..."
But that's why it's bad! It's the moment when the plot becomes unforgivably stupid and Corrin becomes a selfish, idiotic coward.
What gets me is that he criticizes it for relying on Corrin, and then turns around and says Revelations 7 - which has that same issue, but with fog of war and no unique gimmick, as well as being tedious - is his 2nd favorite Revelations map, and one of his favorites in the game.
Personally, I really like Chapter 10, in fact, I would go as far as saying it to be my favorite chapter in Fates, but there is one thing that I cannot excuse it for...
It is a bulls**t difficulty spike! Save chapters like these for later in the game, not just throw it at us at practically the 4th level!
Unregistered Regi Tell it to me, a person not bad, but not awesome At Srpg, having to deal with all that bullshit
The one good thing about the endgame, is that even if your units die, they just wont gain any levels and you can still use them.
Do you like the song: A dark fall?
Yes
I've only ever played Conquest on Easy/Casual, but even after replaying Revelations and Awakening on Hard/Classic, Chapter 10, Chapter 21, and the endgame are still the hardest chapters I have ever played. Though it is entirely possible that I have just gotten much better at Fire Emblem since then.
Chapter 10 was amazing. So was chapter 7. Chapter 15 was the worst, 2nd being chapter 19. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
Or maybe we all have different opinions that though we do not have to like or agree with, we should respect nonetheless.
Ian Leather This guy. This one right here. ^^^
The chapter where you fought Iago and Hans was a NIGHTMARE! I remember after resetting at least 50 times, I finally got to Iago and he got a critical hit on Corrin forcing me to restart. I also hated the fact that if you died on the last level, you had to start from the previous level before. I remember when I died and had to reset, I thought I forgot to save until I realized it was part of the game
Can't you just save before starting the Endgame?
Only on casual mode.
Oh.
Not even on Casual mode...
+Asch [Roy's our boy] I played on phoenix mode (I'm awful at Fire Emblem I know.)
I will never understand the point of playing on Phoenix.
You're better off just watching a walkthrough, honestly.
Also ch 21 is also one of the best. Imo it's a nice escape chapter after them being absent in awakening. U don't even have to fight them half the time. Just rush past them and pop the veins to get past them next turn.
#Garondorf
21:25
You do realize you can switch the characters around on the Battle preparation screen right?? Unless it's different in Had Mode for some reason
There's staff users with Entrap and infinite range, so they'll just warp different units to different rooms, and it's pretty much random.
I am going to put chapter 10 as my least favorite all because on the very last turn that I needed to survive in in order to win, and with only one enemy in the way, I died to someone with a 51 percent chance of hitting me... And a 1% chance of critting me. Take a wild guess at which event occured :(
I needed the grinding for Corrin in Black Pillar. I hated the bastard so much I hardly used him, so that chapter actually helped me.
Still, I see where you're coming from.
Chapter 23 is literally the easiest chapter I've ever played. You fight enemies that can't move, and 4 enemies that can shoot. It's so easy. Cleared without any deaths in hard.
I actually liked Chapter 21. It really forced me to strategize. I survived by using a ton of Blessed Bows/Lances and Freeze's. It was definitely a change of pace!
I cannot hear Dark Song anymore after watching this video. Good God.
chapter 27 was a pain for me. Xander and I were the only ones who could really do anything
**When you solo Ryoma because Kagero dart +skl boon +being a ninja master gives too much avo Ryoma can't hit your ass**
Or like, swordbreaker go brrr
I was playing conquest on the chapter eternal stairway and had escaped everyone but keaton, he was on low health and was surrounded by enemies. He died and yet somehow i won, it might be because i was playing on easy mode.
Your units can't die in the endgame. When you start your game up again, it starts from before the final chapter.
Ok, you can battle save at the beginning of endgame, so there is that complaint out the window.
I totally agree with you, and I'm SO glad you despise the Hinoka chapter and the final chapter as much as I did.
Love your Fire Emblem videos!
Thanks very much, glad we're both on the same page :)
I actually admire the use of Kinshi Knights in #2 because it hinders those who try to take the high road via fliers
Besides, Xander and Elise can become Wyvern Riders through Heart Seals
Awesome list!
The most annoying part of ryoma's chapter was poison strike & grisly wound ninjas and the lunge mechanists.
Also that Iago infinite staff skill was bullsh*t
Actually FE6 Binding Blade did the same thing that the Conquest Endgame does, forcing you to play the last two levels in succession.
Don't know what you're talking about on The Hollow King. I was GLAD that chapter was so easy, given that you can't save between it and the battle that comes after it, and it was a stupidly frustrating chore to have to play through Hollow King everytime someone died on the final chapter.
A lot of the chapters on this list i loved because they were challenging to the point where beating them was SOO rewarding
Yeah, chapter 25 basically has the Fire Emblem equivalent of THAT HALLWAY in Castlevania.
I actually like the idea of rapidfire chapters you need to complete one right after the other...
When it was done better in Revelation
I almost lost the will to continue on chapter 17, and I was on Phoenix mode.
The reason I played the game on Phoenix mode was because I was very unfortunate to have Conquest be the first Fire Emblem game I have ever played. The reason was the fact that Female Corrin was on the box art and I was very stupid.
This feels more like top ten best chapters in conquest. Conquests final chapter is amazing. It forces you to rush the chapter, yet still play it defensively. It's super stressful and somewhat of a paradox, and it's fucking incredible. Plus it has a difficult Archer boss, which is an impressive feat in it of itself.
Jonah J the endgame is fine on its own but having to play through the easy ads hollow king every time you die b4 you can play it again is annoying as shit
Fun fact, for stairway to hell, you can just use a few units that are flying units, like Beruka and Camilla. With those you can do a few pairings and just bomb rush for the exit. It isn't easy but it is incredibly fun to win with like 4 units on a CONQUEST level
the ghost story from Pokemon X&Y was actually The Eternal Staircase all along!
glad to see you admit Chapter 10 can be seen as both the best and the worst chapter. And I definitely agree with placing Endgame as the worst. Gr8 vid m9, keep it up!
On chapter 21 since you had to escape with all your units, I just brought highly mobile units and beat it in 5 or 6 turns (I forgot which).
I had Corrin paired up with Camila, and Shigure paired up with Percy (Percy had no royal blood) and I would send one unit as far as possible, and the other to a dragon vein, alternating as they both progressed through. Took me 4 quick tries, hard classic.
I played conquest on lunatic and on chapter 15 I exclusively used a Gunther that I reclassed to hero and it was one of the most fun maps
17:49 So the Black Knight is building his own harem huh? I wonder which Birthright girl is he going to go for.
I was really able to cheese chapter 21 with Benny and Corrin. If you have a blessed lance the chapter is a breeze, and they know this because eventually the faceless have skills that give you no exp
I ended up skipping about half of these entries because I'm still not done with Conquest, but I agree with all the ones I saw. Although, in my case the difficulty came from trying to use the majority of my characters regularly. I didn't just choose one group of characters, I used all of them (not including any of the child characters). And because the exp was divided among so many characters they weren't as powerful as the game probably expected. So my characters kept turning into confetti (thank you casual mode).
In the end I just gave up and DLC grind-ed until my characters were strong enough, and I feel no shame in that decision.
In order to beat Chapter 10 easily, you have to charge a little bit to reduce the amount of enemies before you're overwhelmed
the eternal stairway ruined my entire life, i played on phoenix mode and shura got surrounded without being able to escape, since he was the only one left.
I am suprised Kistune Lair Didnt make it. That chapter was purely letting Kaze,Effie, and Niles kill everything With beast affective weapons and keaton with his beastbane skill. The map design could be put into awakening, Replace the Kitsune with Pledgian soldiers, and it would fit in perfectly. Thats how bland I found Kitsune Lair.
Conquest 10 is the best chapter in the game. Fun balancing act.
Am I the only one who still has not played Conquest. I played the other stories.. I just don't want to rage.
Conquest is one of those games where you will rage, but each rage makes the eventual victory that much more sweeter.
You actually can steamroll the CQ with just Xander. In fact there's a whole list of characters who Solo'd their respective routes.
m.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/4om294/everybody_solos_fates_and_other_fire_emblems_june/?sort=confidence&compact=true
Someone did it with only Azura on Hard and another guy actually beat Lunatic with Nyx (No DLC)