Would have liked to see the young girl who worked with tiger get more praise during show. It was obvious how much she cares and how hard she worked to prepare the tiger. Thank you!
The lady worked so hard with the tiger, she looked so sad when the guy made that comment, "that's the problem with only half injecting", he way he said it and the look he gave her, must've broke her. I could only imagine the pain the felt. It's not even her fault though. Tigers are intelligent, and it knew something was up. They should've had Chris do it. That's amazing hard work, with dedication to take care and prepare a tiger for a sedation.
I have such a big weakness for tigers, Aysha was a wonderful grand old lady (I just read she passed away 2 years ago at the age of 21, which is really old for a cat!). It must have been a great experience to work with and on those majestic animals
So sad to learn that she passed on. We were gifted to get to meet her and grateful that she enjoyed a full life greatly loved and cared for throughout her beautiful life. . Thank you!
Sad that Aysha passed away. I am sure Charlotte and rest of the zoo staff miss her. Sure Scott does too. Tim was really excited seeing the baby turtles 🐢 go into the ocean. Also, see the mom lay her eggs. Made my day after a stressful day.
Oh 😕 when that young girl cried when the anaesthetist was gruff with her (he seemed displeased with doing an injection by hand) was so sad. I understand that he wanted to just knock Aysha out without fuss. BUT - in the end, he actually decided that he didn't want to even give the tiger the full dose anyway - so had they did the dart anaesthesia, they likely would've given her more than necessary (coupled with the fact Aysha was already a strange breather) - things might've gone pear shaped!
It was a TIGER he had to inject and not a small house cat, I would have been bloody annoyed as well. Especially if being told that the training have been giving good results, guess it was more talk than truth.
Insensitive lack of acknowledgement. Very selfish and rude. Hope they allow her to keep trying. There is much knowledge that may be gained in this positive treatment preparation method. Much potential. Don't let past experience or ridgid thinking close off potential future beneficial gains. That's not wise.
I think he was mostly upset with himself and the situation, but it's clear he didn't make that known to Caz at that moment. This is why we have a clear "no name-and-shame" policy at my workplace. Since we put that in place, people are much more open about their own mistakes and a lot less critical about when things go wrong. It's more of an "oops, my bad, here's how we fix it" rather than "he did this, she did that, let them deal with it" kind of attitude and everyone is happier for it.
that doctor that sassed the trainer is a real piece of work. watching the procedure... it worked. it didnt work the way everyone thought itd work, but it worked. the whole goal was to minimize stress while putting the tiger under. and thats exactly what happened. partial injection and risks or not, it worked. Charlotte's training wasnt all for nothing. i think that doctor was so keen on it not working that the moment it didnt go exactly the way it was planned he wanted to remark about how OBVIOUSLY it wouldnt have worked... when it really did work, just differently. it wasnt a fail in the slightest. i may just be a viewer, but I'd say it was a huge success and was a factor in how smooth the procedure went on the old girl.
God I felt soooo bad for the poor trainer she looked like she was about to burst into tears even though her training worked really well and probably would have worked completely at first if she had been able to give the treat
Right? I felt horrible for the poor lass. She put in so much work with the tiger, and she did so well! You could tell on her face that she felt like a failure. Heartbreaking.
@@higgsboson9509 She is amazing! She worked only 6 weeks, which blows my mind.. I mean, just over a month and all that progress. She should feel so proud.
When donating standard equipment to the vet ladies in Fiji makes them cry that’s pretty sad. It’s good, but it’s just hard to face the reality that not everywhere is as lucky to have all those things that you see as just something that’s just a door away and have tons of in the closet. I hope that makes sense. It’s good to see y’all donating your time as well as those needed supplies. Thank you for everything y’all do, as well as going where your needed.lots of love from Pennsylvania! 💖🖤💖🖤💖🖤
Did you know all pet hamsters are related? "The entire laboratory and pet populations of Syrian hamsters appear to be descendants of a single brother-sister pairing. These littermates were captured and imported in 1930 from Aleppo in Syria by Israel Aharoni, a zoologist of the University of Jerusalem. In Jerusalem, the hamsters bred very successfully."--Wikipedia
That fluid from the hamster’s lump looks exactly like the fluid that was aspirated on 3 different occasions from a lump I had on my breast. Each time it came back, it came back smaller. The last time, the doc injected a tiny bit of air which he said would hopefully irritate the sack & cause the body to absorb it so it wouldn’t fill up again. It worked. No worries, I have regular check ups & that was 20 years ago.
I know it's not exactly the same thing, but from watching Dr Pimple Popper, cysts need the sac removed to prevent recurrence. The pathology of the contents will also be investigated.
I really admire Charlotte. Asia is a beautiful older girl, and Charlotte treats her like her baby. They're all her babies, and she takes that responsibility very seriously. And I've always thought Scott was excellent. So glad Asia did well. And the girl who trained her to follow commands to get her treats is really a genius. Chris and Lisa made me smile, just as always. And reuniting Alison and Audrey made me teary. The best 50 minutes on UA-cam!
I am so happy Dr’s Audrey and Alison where able to reunite. So wonderful about the new veterinary clinic addition to the sanctuary. That must have been so much hard work. Wonderful job!!
That vet was so mean to the girl who trained the tiger. She had obviously been working with her a long time and it did work up to a certain extent. Much less traumatic than darting. He could have been a lot nicer about that. No need to be so rude..
No words to Express the feelings inside me at all these amazing wonderful experiences and learning more about animals and just how each vet etc. Is truly gifted at their calling and dedication to God's precious creatures
He was a bit terse, but he also had to go into a cage with a half sedated tiger. Im sure she got reassurance that it helped. The tiger probably recovered quicker and did not lose faith in the keepers because of her work.
I had the privelege of working as a volunteer with the Padre Island Nation Seashore Kemps Ridley Sea Turtle project. I stood out in the ocean ready to net up the baby turtles as they hatched. The eggs were collecte at an arribada in Mexico and transported North to Texas and hatched on Padre Island NS. It was the thrill of a life time.
Love this! So much fun watching all you folks do to help the animals wherever you need to go. Those little turtles were so much fun to see. Btw, did you know our western box turtles, here in the US also lay their eggs when the moon is full? Just a fun fact as a thank y'all!
If I remember correctly: there is more tigers in captivity as pets in Texas, then all the free tigers in the wild world put together. Speaks volumes how little people really care to preserve them in their natural habitat.
Although I totally agree with you about people having them for pets, I also wonder how safe any of them are in their natural habitat anymore, with all of the poachers that there are.🥺🥺🥺
I think if the anesthesiologist had actually spent some time with the trainer and the tiger the day before, doing what Scott had done and just sitting, getting familiar with the tiger while being fed treats, the shot may have worked. His harsh demeanor and snide comments were unnecessary. The trainer is doing the right thing and making good progress, with a few more weeks I think she could have it down.
Fantastic episode. I have a weakness for all cats and that carries over to Tigers, they are just lovely. On the other hand, I do not like rat-type animals but this little genea pig has a face you just can't resist, adorable. Congratulations medical teams, your work is greatly appreciated. You make the world a better place. ❤️🇺🇸
Oh wow this episode of Bondi vet was fantastic so many different story’s but I do have to admit that the tiger was my favourite one ☝️ But as I said they were all fantastic thanks to all the vets for there dedication and there nurses as well they do amazing work even over as far as Fiji well done
38:28 The twins reuniting was so heartwarming and adorable! But I really hate the fact that a pandemic kept them apart. You should never have to be separated from your twin, sibling(s), or family because of COVID. That's outrageous and not right! I totally disagree with that. You should be able to see them. But I mean, that is SO adorable! I CAN'T!!!!!!!! MY HEART!!!!! I keep repeating this part!
Hey I really salute you guys for doing this.. 😍 This is DEDICATION!!!! 💖 The field this is really where you could see the reality.. I love you so much guys.. You are doing a great job and your profession is noble.
more than often, it's the owners that need educating, to be shown how to treat their animals as living beings, not a play thing, or a commodity!! It's heart breaking to the animals treated with so little respect. The girl with the tiger was awesome!!
Bondi Vet Life isn't easy as it looks.. I live nothing near what Fijian deal with. No complaints except from the subscriber's. Give me a break. Good work Doctors. From Tigers to cats and dogs, reptiles & too the one's I missed. Salutations 🐅🐈🐕🐴
Love this channel but that's a pretty rough thumbnail. Just saying... lol But all jokes aside, I really appreciate this channel. Thank you for your content Bondi Vet.
I completely agree with Charlotte. Animals should not be kept in zoos and cages for our entertainment and amusement. The only reason they should ever be kept is to help sick or injured animals or to preserve the species if they're endangered. And, even then, once they've recovered, if they recover to the point that they can survive in the wild, they should be released back into their natural habitat. If they are unable to survive in the wild, it's better if they're kept, but otherwise, we just shouldn't remove them and cage them.
Would have liked to see the young girl who worked with tiger get more praise during show. It was obvious how much she cares and how hard she worked to prepare the tiger.
Thank you!
Yes, you could se she loved the tiger.
you could see how emotional she got when her training couldn’t quite go as the way she wanted at the end 🥺
@@a-bnielsen6328 see, not se
@@margiecarol2944 they know
@@logan2113 They know what?
The lady who worked so hard on training the tiger did an amazing job and I hope she knows that
seeing her do clicker training with a tiger. my goodness shes so right in that the less stress to the animal the better. especially with anesthetic
Aww that lady crying broke my heart. She did such a good job. If they let her eat a piece of meat she would have laid right down.
The lady worked so hard with the tiger, she looked so sad when the guy made that comment, "that's the problem with only half injecting", he way he said it and the look he gave her, must've broke her. I could only imagine the pain the felt. It's not even her fault though. Tigers are intelligent, and it knew something was up. They should've had Chris do it. That's amazing hard work, with dedication to take care and prepare a tiger for a sedation.
Ah well he works with animals, probably not the greatest interpersonal skills and didn’t mean offense
I have such a big weakness for tigers, Aysha was a wonderful grand old lady (I just read she passed away 2 years ago at the age of 21, which is really old for a cat!). It must have been a great experience to work with and on those majestic animals
It was so sad for the tiger's to passed way
Mime weakness is the white tigers
So sad to learn that she passed on. We were gifted to get to meet her and grateful that she enjoyed a full life greatly loved and cared for throughout her beautiful life. . Thank you!
Sad that Aysha passed away. I am sure Charlotte and rest of the zoo staff miss her. Sure Scott does too. Tim was really excited seeing the baby turtles 🐢 go into the ocean. Also, see the mom lay her eggs. Made my day after a stressful day.
chris "you never gave me the keys"
his dad "nothings changed"
🤣🤣🤣
I would love to see more of his dad, Graeme.
@@terryblack5087 same
I like the line...",,,,,,(silence).....one week, huh "
@@amylarson3958 lol
Oh 😕 when that young girl cried when the anaesthetist was gruff with her (he seemed displeased with doing an injection by hand) was so sad. I understand that he wanted to just knock Aysha out without fuss. BUT - in the end, he actually decided that he didn't want to even give the tiger the full dose anyway - so had they did the dart anaesthesia, they likely would've given her more than necessary (coupled with the fact Aysha was already a strange breather) - things might've gone pear shaped!
It was a TIGER he had to inject and not a small house cat, I would have been bloody annoyed as well. Especially if being told that the training have been giving good results, guess it was more talk than truth.
Props to Caz for all her hard work, I am soooo cross that the vet upset her!
Insensitive lack of acknowledgement. Very selfish and rude. Hope they allow her to keep trying. There is much knowledge that may be gained in this positive treatment preparation method. Much potential. Don't let past experience or ridgid thinking close off potential future beneficial gains. That's not wise.
I think he was mostly upset with himself and the situation, but it's clear he didn't make that known to Caz at that moment.
This is why we have a clear "no name-and-shame" policy at my workplace. Since we put that in place, people are much more open about their own mistakes and a lot less critical about when things go wrong. It's more of an "oops, my bad, here's how we fix it" rather than "he did this, she did that, let them deal with it" kind of attitude and everyone is happier for it.
that doctor that sassed the trainer is a real piece of work. watching the procedure... it worked. it didnt work the way everyone thought itd work, but it worked. the whole goal was to minimize stress while putting the tiger under. and thats exactly what happened. partial injection and risks or not, it worked. Charlotte's training wasnt all for nothing.
i think that doctor was so keen on it not working that the moment it didnt go exactly the way it was planned he wanted to remark about how OBVIOUSLY it wouldnt have worked... when it really did work, just differently. it wasnt a fail in the slightest. i may just be a viewer, but I'd say it was a huge success and was a factor in how smooth the procedure went on the old girl.
God I felt soooo bad for the poor trainer she looked like she was about to burst into tears even though her training worked really well and probably would have worked completely at first if she had been able to give the treat
Right? I felt horrible for the poor lass. She put in so much work with the tiger, and she did so well! You could tell on her face that she felt like a failure. Heartbreaking.
@@higgsboson9509 She is amazing! She worked only 6 weeks, which blows my mind.. I mean, just over a month and all that progress. She should feel so proud.
When donating standard equipment to the vet ladies in Fiji makes them cry that’s pretty sad. It’s good, but it’s just hard to face the reality that not everywhere is as lucky to have all those things that you see as just something that’s just a door away and have tons of in the closet. I hope that makes sense. It’s good to see y’all donating your time as well as those needed supplies. Thank you for everything y’all do, as well as going where your needed.lots of love from Pennsylvania! 💖🖤💖🖤💖🖤
Tim Faulkner reminds me so much of Steve Irwin. The intensity, the excitement, and the love of reptiles. Just saying…
Yes s a me enthusiasm and love and respect for all animals!
It was so sweet of Chris to show the hamster to the boy He was so happy to see his pet
Did you know all pet hamsters are related? "The entire laboratory and pet populations of Syrian hamsters appear to be descendants of a single brother-sister pairing. These littermates were captured and imported in 1930 from Aleppo in Syria by Israel Aharoni, a zoologist of the University of Jerusalem. In Jerusalem, the hamsters bred very successfully."--Wikipedia
I luv the dynamics between Chris and his dad...so cute.
Typical parent child relationship in a nutshell! As much as they drive you to your nerves, you still love them! 😅
You can always tell who is still in charge too lol… dad is the one that drives the car and the son still gets shotgun
@@ChunkyLover420 You'll always be their little kid even if you're grown up! ☺️
I feel for that mare, poor lass. She did so well for a girl who doesn't see a vet often! Good girl!
Giving your equipment that you've replaced with newer ones, to folks like this, is brilliantly beautiful. Her tears of gratitude really got to me.
"I DIDNT BRING MY RIVER SHOES" that really really got me- Thank you for helping these poor people btw!
PLZ CAN WE JUST TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH DR CHRIS LOVES THE BEACH
LOL
NAH
That fluid from the hamster’s lump looks exactly like the fluid that was aspirated on 3 different occasions from a lump I had on my breast. Each time it came back, it came back smaller. The last time, the doc injected a tiny bit of air which he said would hopefully irritate the sack & cause the body to absorb it so it wouldn’t fill up again. It worked. No worries, I have regular check ups & that was 20 years ago.
Wow, what good news for you! Cheers!
I know it's not exactly the same thing, but from watching Dr Pimple Popper, cysts need the sac removed to prevent recurrence. The pathology of the contents will also be investigated.
@@wilmaknickersfit I am wild about your fabulous name!
Aw!! The twins out here making me cry 😢
When I'm having a bad day and giving up on humanity this show makes me feel so much better ❤🇨🇦❤
Same here this show always enlightens my mood ...
Me too
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Full of empathy help compassion caring vets owners educational! 💕💙🙏🙏🐶🐨🦘🐱🐾🐸🦜🐴🥰f or all creatures great and small !
Why would you give up on Humanity?
I really admire Charlotte. Asia is a beautiful older girl, and Charlotte treats her like her baby. They're all her babies, and she takes that responsibility very seriously. And I've always thought Scott was excellent. So glad Asia did well. And the girl who trained her to follow commands to get her treats is really a genius. Chris and Lisa made me smile, just as always. And reuniting Alison and Audrey made me teary. The best 50 minutes on UA-cam!
THANK U Charlotte for helping and loving these GOURGOUS Tigers!💕💙💜💗💕💙💜🙏🙏🙏
Always love to see Dr.Chris ❤️and his unbelievable ways of treating his kids 😍 May it be a doggo,kitty...
I am so happy Dr’s Audrey and Alison where able to reunite. So wonderful about the new veterinary clinic addition to the sanctuary. That must have been so much hard work. Wonderful job!!
Beautiful tiger - so cool. - bless her for taking in the tigers - love them -
When she seen her sister I could feel her heart drop or release. The wait was over.. their so happy❤🌹❤ I love to see this.
That vet was so mean to the girl who trained the tiger.
She had obviously been working with her a long time and it did work up to a certain extent. Much less traumatic than darting.
He could have been a lot nicer about that. No need to be so rude..
I agree, he was a bit condescending
right? I felt my heart hurt for her. I hope she knows she's amazing
No words to Express the feelings inside me at all these amazing wonderful experiences and learning more about animals and just how each vet etc. Is truly gifted at their calling and dedication to God's precious creatures
I feel so bad for the keeper all that training for that. I think the vet was to harsh on her, she was about to cry.
i though the same
He was a bit terse, but he also had to go into a cage with a half sedated tiger. Im sure she got reassurance that it helped. The tiger probably recovered quicker and did not lose faith in the keepers because of her work.
too harsh
@@zoeroberts224 thought
@@margiecarol2944 do you really just go around correcting people on YT comments? What a joke. Go touch some grass
the hamster that was on the thumbnail picture was adorable 0-0 XD :D
Ginger kitties are very special. Archie is a lucky boy.
Aysha stole my heart 😍bless her, what a giant fluffy cutie ❤
The pommy lady zoo keeper is gorgeous, love her work ❤ 😍
I thought Chris was swimming to Fiji for a minute! You guys are wonderful for going to Fiji to assist pet owners.
Vet and tiger chuffing at each other was too precious
Kudos to all the medical professionals who care for those animals.
THANK Dr Scott for helping with these GOURGOUS tigers! 💕💙💜🙏🙏
Watching Bondi Vet has become our stress reliever. It’s always heartwarming. We always feel a calm whenever we watch.
42:37 not gonna lie, I got a lot of joy from seeing the sleepy boy and his tongue stuck out, especially after a successful procedure :3
Everyone of the Vets, experts, Vet teams, whoever they are, you are all my heroes. Every last one of you. God bless & keep you.
Love it - bless them for doing this for the animals in Fiji - all animals are important no matter what they are
@💋 Sweety Hotgirl • Vlogs and the beach shirt he wore to the airport! 🥰
I had the privelege of working as a volunteer with the Padre Island Nation Seashore Kemps Ridley Sea Turtle project. I stood out in the ocean ready to net up the baby turtles as they hatched. The eggs were collecte at an arribada in Mexico and transported North to Texas and hatched on Padre Island NS.
It was the thrill of a life time.
Lisa: "I DIDN'T BRING MY RIVER SHOES! Chris: "River shoes huh?" Chris and Graeme start laughing. Chris: "Princess?, No I don't think so."
THANK U Dr.Chris and thank u to your Dad too for going and helping these deserving animals in need! 💙💙💕💕💜🙏🙏🙏🙏
ALL ANIMALS need help protection and respect! Thank u Bondi Vet! 💜💙💗🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💗💜💙and everyone e law who helps these animals!
Love this! So much fun watching all you folks do to help the animals wherever you need to go. Those little turtles were so much fun to see. Btw, did you know our western box turtles, here in the US also lay their eggs when the moon is full? Just a fun fact as a thank y'all!
Roberta it could b the same for all turtles!??
All animals and wildlife should b protected and RESPECTED AND HELPED WHEN NECESSARY! 💕💙💜🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bless Dr Scot for doing this - the are awesome
The twin sisters do make a wonderfully effective team!
I love watching all the Vet shows, but I do love one of them more than the others and that's Dr Chris ❤
Chris is so cute and caring
If I remember correctly: there is more tigers in captivity as pets in Texas, then all the free tigers in the wild world put together.
Speaks volumes how little people really care to preserve them in their natural habitat.
WOW 😯! not okay👎🤞Keep up the good work🤟🤛
Although I totally agree with you about people having them for pets, I also wonder how safe any of them are in their natural habitat anymore, with all of the poachers that there are.🥺🥺🥺
I think if the anesthesiologist had actually spent some time with the trainer and the tiger the day before, doing what Scott had done and just sitting, getting familiar with the tiger while being fed treats, the shot may have worked. His harsh demeanor and snide comments were unnecessary. The trainer is doing the right thing and making good progress, with a few more weeks I think she could have it down.
just like the tiger, my cats respond when i talk to them. it's adorable.
Fantastic episode. I have a weakness for all cats and that carries over to Tigers, they are just lovely. On the other hand, I do not like rat-type animals but this little genea pig has a face you just can't resist, adorable. Congratulations medical teams, your work is greatly appreciated. You make the world a better place. ❤️🇺🇸
Oh wow this episode of Bondi vet was fantastic so many different story’s but I do have to admit that the tiger was my favourite one ☝️
But as I said they were all fantastic thanks to all the vets for there dedication and there nurses as well they do amazing work even over as far as Fiji well done
Nature is so amazing...the Loggerheads laying their eggs and the hatchling knowing exactly what to do and head to the ocean
It is really magical 😍
It's funny but i feel for that Hamster in Beijing becosue you do get really affected to those little cutie ball's!
So nice to see the twins reunited
Charlotte u r Such a beautiful caring compassionate lady! Thank but for loving and caring for these GOURGOUS tigers! 💕💗🥰🥰🙏🙏
You guys are an awesome team and I'm sure the folk there were thankful for your help well done
The tiger is one of the cutest animals I have ever seen
38:28 The twins reuniting was so heartwarming and adorable! But I really hate the fact that a pandemic kept them apart. You should never have to be separated from your twin, sibling(s), or family because of COVID. That's outrageous and not right! I totally disagree with that. You should be able to see them. But I mean, that is SO adorable! I CAN'T!!!!!!!! MY HEART!!!!! I keep repeating this part!
I would love to see more of these! the episodes where they travel abroad are always so good!
I loved the turtle hatching.
vinaka, thank you for taking care of our cousins in Fiji and their animals
It's too cute
I just love the sweet look on the rivers face while they areshow of her training. Such a sweet girl
That horse looks hungry. Poor thing.
God bless all veterinarians
omg that was so cute I have never scene ne thing like that b4 thanks for sharing
This show is awesome
Aww itty bitty turtles so cure.
❤❤❤mother nature is beautiful. How the water came and swept the baby 🐢🐢🐢 in the water. Priceless
Hey I really salute you guys for doing this.. 😍 This is DEDICATION!!!! 💖 The field this is really where you could see the reality.. I love you so much guys.. You are doing a great job and your profession is noble.
Wspaniały film ! Dziękuję !
Movie??
Omg tears with you two reuniting!
That beautiful tiger did a good job of eating that mince :-)
This is my favourite show
so wonderful beautiful video friend i love it see Chris
Wonderful episode thanks for sharing
I thank you go Fiji to save the animals
Bites his hand and its just playing 🤣🤣🤣 ouchhh
@Maria Sweety Hotgirl - Vlogs I know
id say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree
🐢 🐢 are so cute
🐼 Big Bear Hugs from a 68 yr old grandma in Kirby, Texas, USA 🐼 ❤️ 🎀 ❤️ 🎀 ❤️
🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨🐨🥰hugs back to u f r om Australia 💗💜💙
I envy Dr. Scott getting to work with that Tiger who very much likes people.
good people, doing good work
thank you very much bondi vet
like father like son🤣
Good on the brown boys like father like son
more than often, it's the owners that need educating, to be shown how to treat their animals as living beings, not a play thing, or a commodity!! It's heart breaking to the animals treated with so little respect. The girl with the tiger was awesome!!
Bondi Vet
Life isn't easy as it looks..
I live nothing near what Fijian deal with.
No complaints except from the subscriber's.
Give me a break.
Good work Doctors.
From Tigers to cats and dogs, reptiles & too the one's I missed.
Salutations 🐅🐈🐕🐴
Great show today !!!
Love the Sea turtles♥️♥️
I like Bondi vet vlogs
Those 2 twins there special. Migwech🔥🙏
Love this channel but that's a pretty rough thumbnail.
Just saying... lol
But all jokes aside, I really appreciate this channel. Thank you for your content Bondi Vet.
I completely agree with Charlotte. Animals should not be kept in zoos and cages for our entertainment and amusement. The only reason they should ever be kept is to help sick or injured animals or to preserve the species if they're endangered. And, even then, once they've recovered, if they recover to the point that they can survive in the wild, they should be released back into their natural habitat. If they are unable to survive in the wild, it's better if they're kept, but otherwise, we just shouldn't remove them and cage them.