Great topic. I grew up with my father and many friends joining the military. I even had a veteran classmate take his own life. I’ve seen people I’ve known get private help or avoid it all together. Everything from mental health, to persistent pain and even STD testing for fear of repercussions to their career, their families. I can’t say I have any great answers other than total healthcare, single payer reform. Where we all get the same care that we need. And maybe I’m extreme, but if we treated mental healthcare like all other healthcare, we would get regular checkups. At the very least it might help to normalize it.
Fighting for American freedom? no.. more like fighting for American dominance & thereby economy. Not to say that the servicemen and women have it any easier because of that but it's still a wrong statement
What do you guys think? We would like to hearing from any of our service men and women, no matter which nation you’re serving - what’s your opinion and what do you think should change?
ScIQ I thank my lucky stars that my partner (NZ logistics soldier) is unlikely to ever see active duty again. Also I hope this is one trend we’re not following the US in.
We need to enact more laws that seize weapons from people who are suicide risks. I've seen statistics that show that suicide by gun account for more than 60% of all gun related deaths in the US.
There's already gun laws like that all over the country: www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/five-states-allow-guns-to-be-seized-before-someone-can-commit-violence/2018/02/16/78ee4cc8-128c-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html?.51a50ce81ea4 www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/09/michigan-red-flag-gun-bill/34731175/
Just a nod to a few stories been doing the rounds, you know, those stories people dismiss because they're conditioned to dismiss it...Stories like battling with aliens at close quarters in the massive array of tunnels, just meters under everyone's feet and not being able to tell anyone at all about it, I guess could become problematic? Particularly if a soldier wants to tell his nearest and dearest about what's actually going on, where it is, everyone is really getting wasted....then I guess I could expect this particular soldier being volunteered by someone else for a surprise suicide detail, serves national security and Pandora's box stays safely tucked away out of harms reach, just for a little while longer. It's all for the good of someone you will never know!
Japan has a suicide rate twice the US and they have no solutions either. The Japanese have few guns so that often used excuse falls flat. Celebrities with unlimited funds also commit suicide so throwing money at it isn't a solution.
I'll start by saying that while I served as a solider in the Israely army, I'm not addressing this issue as a past solider, but as somone involved in my country issues. The issue of suicide is the greatest killer among israelly soliders too. That is true, even while Israel has a reasonable and in some cases free mental healthcare, in the army and outside it, for those in need. That is true even whileIsrael is in a continued conflict, that has it's own victoms. I do think that while mental healthcare can do wonders, but it still has to deal with young man, that have extremly deadly weapons, in a high stress enviroment. That makes the distance between feeling bad, and acting on it very short. I'm not sure any doctor can get to the young service man, in time to stop him from acting follishly on a thoght passing in his head, that maybe everyone are better off, if he died.
Thank you so much for your service, and for your comment. The best thing we can do to prevent these hostile, stressful situations is to strive for peace. That should always be the end goal.
Jayde Lovell while I am in favor of peace, note that it may have to come with "a big stick", in the form of an army keeping it. I'm really not sure there's a way around the need for an army, to preserve our way of life. However, I think the point made in this video, that a better healthcare may prevent these deaths, is kinda problematic. It might just be an unavoidable part of young man having deadly weapons constantly in their hands. This, BTW, has nothing to do with the fact that I agree, that all people, and especially soliders need good and affordable (in the case of serving man and woman, even free) mental healthcare.
When an honest solder realizes that he is fighting for making bad people more powerful, he can't forgive himself.
"Fighting for American freedom." No.
Great topic. I grew up with my father and many friends joining the military. I even had a veteran classmate take his own life.
I’ve seen people I’ve known get private help or avoid it all together. Everything from mental health, to persistent pain and even STD testing for fear of repercussions to their career, their families.
I can’t say I have any great answers other than total healthcare, single payer reform. Where we all get the same care that we need. And maybe I’m extreme, but if we treated mental healthcare like all other healthcare, we would get regular checkups. At the very least it might help to normalize it.
Thank you for the video Jayde!
Very informative. And well pesented. Thank you.
Bad news is easier when it comes from you, Jayde. :)
Lets fix what bad news we can, together! What we can't fix... well, there's beer.
Fighting for American freedom? no.. more like fighting for American dominance & thereby economy. Not to say that the servicemen and women have it any easier because of that but it's still a wrong statement
What do you guys think? We would like to hearing from any of our service men and women, no matter which nation you’re serving - what’s your opinion and what do you think should change?
ScIQ I thank my lucky stars that my partner (NZ logistics soldier) is unlikely to ever see active duty again. Also I hope this is one trend we’re not following the US in.
We need to enact more laws that seize weapons from people who are suicide risks. I've seen statistics that show that suicide by gun account for more than 60% of all gun related deaths in the US.
Source:
www.nytimes.com/2015/10/09/upshot/gun-deaths-are-mostly-suicides.html
John Garrison So true, however I thought having the words seize and gun in the same sentence in America caused hurricanes.
There's already gun laws like that all over the country:
www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/five-states-allow-guns-to-be-seized-before-someone-can-commit-violence/2018/02/16/78ee4cc8-128c-11e8-9570-29c9830535e5_story.html?.51a50ce81ea4
www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2018/05/09/michigan-red-flag-gun-bill/34731175/
Just a nod to a few stories been doing the rounds, you know, those stories people dismiss because they're conditioned to dismiss it...Stories like battling with aliens at close quarters in the massive array of tunnels, just meters under everyone's feet and not being able to tell anyone at all about it, I guess could become problematic?
Particularly if a soldier wants to tell his nearest and dearest about what's actually going on, where it is, everyone is really getting wasted....then I guess I could expect this particular soldier being volunteered by someone else for a surprise suicide detail, serves national security and Pandora's box stays safely tucked away out of harms reach, just for a little while longer. It's all for the good of someone you will never know!
Japan has a suicide rate twice the US and they have no solutions either. The Japanese have few guns so that often used excuse falls flat. Celebrities with unlimited funds also commit suicide so throwing money at it isn't a solution.
I'll start by saying that while I served as a solider in the Israely army, I'm not addressing this issue as a past solider, but as somone involved in my country issues.
The issue of suicide is the greatest killer among israelly soliders too. That is true, even while Israel has a reasonable and in some cases free mental healthcare, in the army and outside it, for those in need. That is true even whileIsrael is in a continued conflict, that has it's own victoms.
I do think that while mental healthcare can do wonders, but it still has to deal with young man, that have extremly deadly weapons, in a high stress enviroment. That makes the distance between feeling bad, and acting on it very short. I'm not sure any doctor can get to the young service man, in time to stop him from acting follishly on a thoght passing in his head, that maybe everyone are better off, if he died.
Thank you so much for your service, and for your comment. The best thing we can do to prevent these hostile, stressful situations is to strive for peace. That should always be the end goal.
Jayde Lovell while I am in favor of peace, note that it may have to come with "a big stick", in the form of an army keeping it. I'm really not sure there's a way around the need for an army, to preserve our way of life.
However, I think the point made in this video, that a better healthcare may prevent these deaths, is kinda problematic. It might just be an unavoidable part of young man having deadly weapons constantly in their hands.
This, BTW, has nothing to do with the fact that I agree, that all people, and especially soliders need good and affordable (in the case of serving man and woman, even free) mental healthcare.
i expected suicide. need more mental health funding and other aid
Is it suicide?
Yep.