Agree on the Scott's broadcast spreader. I have the DLX and it's an exercise in frustration every time I use it. The tiny mixer sits slightly above the basin so material tends to accumulate below, especially fine granulars like Milo. Once it builds up enough it will interfere with the mixer or stress the mixer. After a round of Milo, mine came off and I found it sitting at the bottom of the basin. I eventually fixed it by taking the spreader apart and used Rhino glue to fix the mixer back on. I might have used a tiny screw to keep it from popping off as well. Another problem is the slot opening at the bottom of the basin. At lower settings large granulars will not get through the slot and it will clog, but even fine granulars will eventually clog up and after a few rows the output will be substantially reduced. I always carry a thin wire/rod with me to clear up the clogs as I go, but as you clear up the clogs you invariably are going to drop a load of fert/seed when you are doing it (and that might lead to spot burning on your lawn). Lastly, the wheels impede side to side broadcasting, so you need to make sure you cut the rate down and overlap in a criss-cross pattern to even things out. But even then you might have streaks with higher nitrogen ferts where they hit the wheels. I still have mine, but I am definitely moving on to another spreader.
I started with a Scotts Elite and then upgraded to an Earthway 2600. I don't regret a thing. The tires are amazing, and the way it spreads is phenomenal. I couldn't imagine going back to Scotts. The only drawback is what he mentioned. I'm 6' 1" and the Earthway is short. It is sort of a bother, but not. The thing spreads great and vast, so I'm not in that hunched position for long. I get my yard done faster than I would with the Scotts Elite. So it does make up for it.
I have the echo and for the modest amount of fertilizing I do it’s great. I came from having a lesco in the field and I feel like for the price of the echo I think it’s a good buy. Im happy you put it in the mix!
Excellent video Allyn! Because I have issues, I still have the Scott's mid-level in my garage, but I AM switching to a handspreader next season. Those hollow wheels can also cause lines in your lawn. Fert gets inside the wheels, accumulates and then spills out as you walk. So, you have to duct tape or cover up the inside open area of the wheels.
Well said on the wheels. Scott’s spreaders are really poorly made. Better off buying a quality spreader. Wish I did but sadly I’ve had the Scott’s. Going to invest in a better one asap.
Great vid! Back when I started with the LCN (2015/6) I bought an Earthway 2150 for our 9k yard. It's a beast! Huge tires, very solid, terrible add-on edge guard. One thing to also think about for future shoppers is the spreader weight. We have a really inclined yard with a lot of variation. Pushing that sucker around with half of a load of fert up hills can really be something. Allyn's call-out about operator height is also great, behind hunched over is miserable.
New entry to the LCN top ten list right here. Great analysis, top notch production quality and unbiased opinion. I always watch your videos but this one stands above the rest Allyn. 👍
Man I am so lucky I have learned so much from just what all the tons of different assortments of lawn equipment my neighbors throw out!! I found a Scott's Turf Builder Classic and I'm so excited to try it today!
I special ordered the Echo from H.Depot service desk, now for half an acre of land at a cost of about 160 dollars. Best investment yet as far as fertilizing something goes. Has about an 8 foot throw. Can hold about 12000 S.foot worth in each fill. 😊
Great stuff,as usual. I’m still using an Ortho broadcast that I purchased over 30 years ago. Paid a premium price back then, but it has has certainly returned great value. As you mention, the biggest PITA with cheaper models is the calibration and product distribution. Pay attention to quality when purchasing, and you will experience less frustration and enjoy the spread.
For taller guys like me the Brinly-Hardy 50lb spreader is the same exact design as the Earthway (except for the edge guard) and the handle is adjustable and comfortable for those over 6ft. Throw’er down! Love the videos!
Absolutely my favorite too. Works like a charm -- and actually much less assembly required than with the Earthway, as it comes mostly assembled. Made in Indiana (more or less down the road from Earthway's plant) and very rugged indeed.
Great and informative video as usual. When my Scotts DLX wheels came off, after some research I purchased the Earthway Spreader. Wheels are much better, and I have enjoyed using it. Well worth the money...
Great video Allyn. I agree, this is definitely a product where you want to spend your money and buy quality and stay away from the cheap junk ones. After going through a few Scotts spreaders I upgraded last year to a Spyker Ergo Pro and I absolutely love it. Very well built, not cheap plastic parts, and it spreads much more even than the cheaper spreaders. This was the best purchase, I wish I would have bought it first and not wasted the money on the Scott's.
Buy once, cry once for me. I picked up a Lesco 80 lb. I am in my yard every day during the season and figure I might as well have the tools the pros use. Having said that, I also cut with a Toro 3250D triplex mower.That is definitely a pro tool. Love the videos!
I used to work for lawn company, so when I had the chance to pick up Lesco (like new) from company going out of business I jumped all over it. Think I got it for under $100
Well all is right in the world today. It’s Sunday afternoon and LCN posted a new video on UA-cam. Great video Allyn, keep it going please. My vote is for the Earthway.
... this shows you how "individual user experience may vary...I like my Edgeguard Mini, which I caught on sale for around $25...I've used it for several years, maintaining two yards of 10,000-12,000sq ft, doing about 7-8 applications each year...I've had no balance issues, plastic tire problems, etc... it does have to be refilled more often, which means that I get a little more walking in... so choices are great!...😊
I have the Elite and it sucks. It broke once but Scotts did send me another one for a few bucks to send the lever back. When you hose it off and blow dry it it still will leak rusty colored water 🙄. Thanks for the review Al!
Great video! I have the Scotts Edge Guard Deluxe and, after 2 years, the spinner on the inside of the holding container literally broke off. Still had the receipt and was able to return it for a replacement. But I'd invest in the Earthway next time being on 3/4 acre.
Great vid! I had the Scott’s DLX and it lasted 2 applications before the stupid plastic impeller agitator split up the middle and wouldn’t spin anymore. I tried a number of fixes, even messaged Scott’s for a new part. Eventually I gave up and trashed it. Waste of money and you’re correct, not cheap.
I have the Earth way, I really like it, I am 6 foot six and have no problem using it. By far the better quality of all of them. Also, I enjoyed putting mine together, you do learn how it operates. And definitely two beers, lol
🎯I think the biggest problem with spreaders is how they're taken care of and how they're stored. The cheaper spreaders have a tendency to get beat up more because they're thrown all around garages and not hung and they're also thrown in cars and pick up trucks and things of that nature and that can damage them you may not think that you're damaging them but that's why they have a tendency to fall apart faster and break and not give proper rates.
I thoroughly rinsed and stored my $240 earthway, it still rusted to pieces in 6 years. Who knew that I had to wax and repaint all the cheap tubular steel. Plastic hopper with stainless parts should be the standard, and it shouldn’t cost $600.
@@buckbenelli8 agree, I would expect a 308 or similar grade SS in those units, esp around fertilizer. Although, 6 years is pretty good! See what happens to a brand new car in Upstate NY!
"Two Beer Assembly." Well done. Have the Echo and have been happy. Upgraded from the Scott's mini after I got bad fert lines that would not correct with all the recommendations.
Hi Allen. The Vigoro hand spreader has 5 settings for distribution rate. How do you know what setting to use when you look at a bag of your fertilizer? Thank you, love all your videos.
My Lesco spreader is a beast. Professional quality and has actual grease fittings and real tires. Will last a long time, and throws fertilizer a long ways.
I have a large lawn, about 24000 ft of lawn. I bought the Earthway 2600 in Sep 2021 and really like it. However in late Spring 2022, the drive wheel started locking up. Played with a few times to get it going again, but after a couple of uses it locked up again. Bought the Scott’s Elite in early June and have had no issues, other than the issue you pointed out about the drops rates on each side being uneven.
@@wayneessar7489 I did not contact them, didn’t have time to wait as I had to get fertilizer out the next day. I do still occasionally use it if I am doing a small area.
I went from a cheaper Scotts to an Anderson 2000 SR professional spreader and it was worth it to me for 10k sq ft. For lower end units like you are showing the things to look for, pneumatic tires and the ability to put a whole bag of fertilizer in.
The Fertilome spreader was the best used. Had baked on paint to metal with round tub, static setting, on off only. Now using Scott’sElite and I really like it for 15K Turf type fescue lawn. I agree, the Earthway round tub is the best! 👍 Great Review TOO!
Used a Earthway for years. I tried a hand crank last year and will never go back to the Earthway. The hand crank has so much more control, and seemed to be faster. Very simple to use.
I have the RB60 and like it accept for a couple of things. First, I shortened the spring for the gate control. Just cut the hook off and made a new hook. I could feel that sometimes the gate would stick open so more return tension helped. Second, and the thing I dislike the most is the too low of an angle on the sides. When I do my 2000sf divided up areas when I get to the end I have to do the walking jerk/shake to get the last bit to drop. The bottom needs to be steeper to funnel the product down. I have tried waxing, spraying with silicone but it was a no go. This thing is 100% better than the Scotts edge guard that left beautiful dark green lines in my lawn.
I've heard a lot of people mention the gate getting stuck open too. Slamming it back harder seems like the perfect solution. For the side rake being shallow, I agree. I end up bumping the spreader alot towards the end of a run. I probably should do a video showing this because anyone who uses the RB60 does it - like a friggin dance lol.
I have both a handheld spreader and a Scotts cheapy spreader and I have to say the hand spreader is so much easier and quicker to use I've only got about 4000 ft of lawn but it's all cut up into different sections and it works out much better. I'd like to have a nice expensive spreader but it would just be money thrown down the drain given the amount of times they use it during the year.
Great vid Allyn, well done. I didn't know Echo had one, very cool. I did the Scott's thing twice, after 2 throwaways, I looked at the Earthway and also the Lesco 50lb spreader at Site One. After seeing the Lesco in person, it was a no brainer for me. Yes, more expensive, but with the stainless hardware, pneumatic tires, grease fittings, and a hopper cover, it's worthy of it's now $300 price tag....I'm extremely happy with it, no regrets. Only Achilles of the Lesco, is the flat bottom near the openings, you have to wiggle it around a little when it's low on material, but not a deal breaker. That's kinda the norm with most spreaders anyway. I wish for the $$ it was more tapered. Take care.
I used the Scot’s mini once. I like the size but my yard is not that big and it spreads fairly well, a little to the left. Which i was quickly able to identify and adjusted my pattern, but over all I’m happy and the price was right. I neglected my bigger spreader and it’s not spinning. Looking to repair it.
I am watching your video because I am replacing my Earthway spreader. 10 years old but the last 2 were very frustrating. It's a design issue where the linkage arm pushes down and forward on the plastic gate. Because the forces are at an angle to the direction the gate rotates in, the plastic gets weaker and weaker over time. Eventually the plastic bends down instead of rotating so you have to tap it with your foot to get it to close. I got more life from it by oiling the plate before every use but then dust would eventually cake on it and I would be right back where I started. I finally trashed it last week. Another thing to note is that the base is large and flat meaning you have to bounce it left and right with the gate full open to get the last of the material out, and that is not controlled at all. I feel like it's designed to run between 25%-100% full. Looks like the Echo may be the replacement I choose.
MSN. I haven't tapped into LCN channel in a minute, I come back and LCN looks 50lbs lighter, nice work Allan👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽, keep it up on both ends, the channel and getting fit.👍🏾💯
Excellent video Allyn, as usual. I am so happy with my Echo RB-60 but I am thinking of moving to a hand spreader like you suggest...especially since my lawn is broken into a couple of sections less than 2,000 sq feet. I currently have the Scotts Whizz spreader and I use it for areas between sidewalk and street, along with some granular insect applications around the house. I don't think the Whizz can hold up to 6 lbs of your product, but I'll have to see here in the spring. If not I'll probably look at purchasing the hand spreader you share in this video. Thanks again!
Nor sure I've seen it mentioned, but I recommend (always) rinsing out your spreader after any application. I use my leaf blower to help in the drying process.
Someone commented to me about this a few months ago and I found mine were flat!!! Was it you who told me about that? I had them with no air for like 2 years prior lol
I have the Earthway 2600 and it works great. I am 6 feet tall so it does feel a little short. A number of years ago I picked up a Scott’s DLX (it came with pneumatic tires) and have been using that one for spreading ice melt in the winter.
@@JonJonJonJonJon Most have settings for the Earthway. I've actually been using The Lawn Car Nut's products lately and they have the Earthway settings on the bag.
I have the Scott’s elite spreader and don’t like it. I bought other Scott spreaders and they don’t last. I’m going to purchase an echo or earthway one when I get the chance. Great video and can’t wait for spring!
I originally had some super cheap no name spreader I got from my brother-in-law. Lasted maybe 4 years with intermittent use. Then I got the Scotts Edgeguard DLX, it only lasted 3 seasons or regular use before it fell apart. Scotts did reimburse me for the cost of the spreader. Picked up an older model Earthway 2150 for $75 a few months ago off craigslist, built like a tank, though I am still getting used to it as I have used maybe twice now. It can be converted to side spread control according to Earthway. I have the part just haven't tried to install yet, hopefully before start of this season. I shouldn't need another spreader. It is very stable on a bumpy yard, actually has the gate close when I pull the lever and doesn't track fertilizer on the inside of the wheel. A big pro tip is to clean it regularly with a hose to remove salts and fertilizer. Keeping the tray clean ensures proper spread pattern.
Nice selection of spreaders! I broke my edge guard on my Scott’s Elite, spreader still works but I love the edge guard. I would agree on the edge guard mini, horrible unit. I still have the big brother The Edge Guard DLX I purchased it when I replaced another spreader, I paid $60 for mine, it’s ok but I was not a big fan of the unit mostly because of the wheels. I purchased it to replace my Scott’s 3000 which I thought was better. Looking to get a nicer more pro spreader this year since I do use it commercially along with my ride on perma green unit. Good stuff Allyn
If I was doing this day and and day out for customers, I would have a Lesco or Spyker. I have also recently seen professional applicators in my comments talking about how they keep a small hand crank spreaader too - for hitting parkways or small strips. I remember in my TG days in Chicago, the guys who did the postage stamps all day would use handcranks for entire yards. They were actually chest spreaders in those days.
@@TheLawnCareNut I do carry a crank hand spreader, I was eyeing up the Robi spreader you were showing, I didn’t think it looked that bad. Thanks for the suggestions, I will need to pick one up soon
Excellent video, and very informative. I have wanted an earthy for some time and your review has been inciteful. Although, I use Scott products on my lawn and there are no instructions for Earthway settings. Do you have any advice for a DIY guy like me?
I have a large yard, so I got the tow behind Brinly. I never really see it listed on products, but you had a video about getting these things dialed in and I need to get back to that. I am waiting on some replacement parts for the Brinly and their customer service is great! Until then, I'm hunched over with a little red unit that I cannot remember the name. Either way, it's narrow and tippy and somewhat awful. Love your videos. Thank you.
Living in Oklahoma, I just take a large bag of whatever I need to spread, dump it on the sidewalk in front of my house and in a few hours, either some straight line winds or a tornado will have it evenly spread out across the yard. Then the rain and hail will make sure it gets in the soil good.
I started with the Scotts Elite. Did the job but build quality wasnt great. Moved to the Echo and have been using it for a few years. Its great for the most part. My only complaint with the RB60 is the edge guard just redirects the fert and it will sometimes fall on its own.
I had a small Cyclone rotary spreader that I used for many years, it worked just fine until it finally rotted-out (it was my wife’s grandfathers). I was all set on purchasing a new Earthway but ended up finding a great deal on a stainless Lesco that had a bent axle. Made a new axle out of a piece of stainless and it’s as good as new. Love the capacity and how far it can throw the fertilizer when compared to my old spreader. I’d say it cut my time down to a 1/3. You get what you pay for and this will definitely be my last spreader!
The prices have soared the past 1 1/2 yrs!! I did a lot of research before my purchase and agree with LCN, Earthway is the one to choose...buy once cry once!!
I have the DXL and two hand helds. I use the hand helds more often too. They are just easier. I have a hand crank one and a battery powered one. I use the tippy DXL for my large back yard only.
I hvae an earthway now. But not before going through several ones with plastic wheels. I have about 18,000 sqft and the plastic wheels just don't cut it. The Earthway is fantastic. Like a Cadillac of the lawn.
I purchased the Earthways spreader based on LCN and recommendation 5 years ago. He’s right you need to be short. And also the metal frame is rusted like crazy, same with the screws, which is made it difficult to use and change the settings. I do rinse it with water after use and dry in sun. Still better than the Scott’s though.
I purchased an Agrifab spreader a few weeks ago. It holds an advertised 130 lbs. pain to assemble and no edge guard but for me, it is great. I put down several hundred pounds of quick acting lime. I’m 6’2” and I like the height of the spreader. Made in the USA. By me I think 😂
I've had my Earthway for roughly 6 years and while it's a great spreader I don't love it. The edge guard kept sliding closed so I removed it, the adjustment wing nut broke and the screws/frame are corroding. I see Alan's Earthway is yellow which makes me wonder if he had those parts replaced. Great video!
I grew up with drop spreaders. I can see the appeal of a broadcast spreaders faster application rate. But how do you manage accurate application for things like overseeding, irregular shaped lawns, and adjoining concrete and pavers?
Ahhh yes a LCN video to satisfy the craving of lawn care. I actually was fighting the urge to get out the mower to mow today (Indiana and still dormant), but wait I just called my dealer and he laced an order for my new Exmark. Lol
One thing to note is that the Scotts Elite spreader does require assembly, I ordered mine from amazon when it was on sale and I had to assemble it. It is not complicated but if you are new and have not dealt with lawn equipment that sometimes use cotter pins that you have to bend back to secure something (the wheels in this case), it can be a little confusing. IMO, the biggest advantage of the Elite over the Mini and Deluxe is its wider stance, making it far less likely to tip over. If you have a hopper full of synthetics and the spreader tips over on the lawn, that will ruin your day for sure.
Great video topic. I can speak on the Scott's, as a typical DIY user, had two of the DLX models previously (one given to me). Not dependable spreaders at all haha. Granted, I failed a time or two to wash out the fert. That did damage the spreader and was my fault. However the quality is just...flimsy. I have the Elite now which I purchased to save dough, and it's..ok. I've treated it right but still at times as you said, it doesn't drop consistently. Put a few bucks in it and get a decent spreader. I wish I learned this sooner. Great content for new buyers.
I have the RB-60...I like that it has the setting numbers of multiple spreaders....so is someone's product only has scott's or earthway's number settings but not the other.....you can adjust your RB-60 to use the product rather than guessing um...that looks about right....then over/under spreading it
A couple quick things on the Echo, and maybe you have some solutions. I do love it, and I had a scotts mini before, so anything is better! But occasionally, the setting jumps on me. I think what happens is a granule lodges between the discs, and when I squeeze or release the lever, say at the end of a row, it'll hop settings on me, and all of a sudden I'm dumping fert at a 9 or whatever. Trying to think of a way to clamp the lever in place. Also, the shallow hopper makes it hard to get the last bit to spread. I've tried zip ties, it helps, but nothing is perfect. Lastly, the edge guard flap can fall sometimes. I happened to have a super short bungee cord, so I just use that to hold it up. It also throws material way further than the scotts, so I think that's why people sometimes think the settings are a little generous. Gotta broaden your pattern. I got mine for 99, so I'm ok working around this stuff!
Very informative and true. The mini is no good. Hit a rut or bump and say goodbye to your product, And hello to a burn spot if it’s fertilizer. I will definitely look into the echo. I do have good luck with Scott’s whiz, and I’ve been using it a lot lately. I’ll be replacing that with the ryobi handheld at some point. Save a little $$ on batteries.
I have the EdgeGuard Mini and the handheld as well. Have used them both for years on my 1700 sq ft lawn. I am thinking about getting a Solo Chest held spreader. They are reasonably priced and have more control of the product being applied as well as a comfortable solution and not dealing with plastic wheels or uneven grounds that can cause spillage .
I had the Solo Chest Spreader and it spreads great, but it was a pain in the ass to put on and the fert is right in your face. Your shoes also fill with fert to when you stop and go. Let’s put it this way I have a walk behind again.
Hi LCN, I listen to you a lot on UA-cam. I have had maybe 3 hand held spreaders and none have worked for me. The large granules grind and turning the handle is super hard, therefore the application is not even. I have also had Scotts spreaders (notice the 'S') where the granules decide not to come down making me having to shake the tub as I walk along! Or, the wheels stop turning! I finally gave up on big box stores and bought an Earthway 2600 A+. My husband and I tried to put that thing together with directions that used tiny (font) faint letters, on very old paper (like these directions have been copied 3,000 times). We called Support I think 3 times! 6 hours later the spreader was ready to work. In use I did not understand to move the lever to stop it before the end of the lap. When I did stop it and start again tons of granules came out that had settled in the whirly (sorry I do not know the proper names)! I actually burned my grass in several places when it would just drop fert that was still on the whirly below. I listened to you when you said "Don't be afraid to fertilize your lawn, you won't burn it!" Well I did. Now I have, again, had to call, email with pictures how the lever will not open and close properly. The rod grinds against the leg and the edger guard rarely works! Their videos do not help; they too are generalized with out any one talking to explain what to do. We have had it with them BUT they are going to send us a new one stating there is a problem with the legs. Back to putting it together (6 hours)! If you have any suggestions I would love to hear it.
My Scotts Deluxe Edge Guard had been working fine until this summer when the axle rusted through and broke. Big disappointment as I was only half way through my lawn at the time and the hopper was more than half full. I always rinsed my spreader out when finished so was surprised that the axle rusted out.
I just pick up a Craftsman CMMSPA080, a 80 lb variant of the Chapin 82050C from my local Ace for $129. I wanted one with the round hopper and the Chapin and Earthway were on my watch list, but I was leaning more towards the Chapin due to the larger hopper. I stumbled onto this deal by chance and couldn't pass it up.
Thanks for this vid Allyn! I've been using a Scott's mini for two seasons now (that i got for free so I've gotten my $ worth I guess) and my real issue with it (and now I know about A LOT more issues thanks to you sir) is size. I'm 6'7" inches tall and treat around 6K in lawn size. I have to stop and sit after each quadrant I treat because my back is killing me! I do not have any other back issues with anything else I do so I'm guessing it has to do with the angle my body needs to be at to push around this pile of crap! You talk briefly about the dowside to the Earthway for taller people but what spreader would you suggest for those of us "doorway challenged" folks 🙂? BTW... I've not seen a big and tall lawn maintenece brand. Hmm? Opportunity? 🙂
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I bought an Earthway a few years back after watching one of your review videos. It’s a fantastic spreader.
Agree on the Scott's broadcast spreader. I have the DLX and it's an exercise in frustration every time I use it. The tiny mixer sits slightly above the basin so material tends to accumulate below, especially fine granulars like Milo. Once it builds up enough it will interfere with the mixer or stress the mixer. After a round of Milo, mine came off and I found it sitting at the bottom of the basin. I eventually fixed it by taking the spreader apart and used Rhino glue to fix the mixer back on. I might have used a tiny screw to keep it from popping off as well. Another problem is the slot opening at the bottom of the basin. At lower settings large granulars will not get through the slot and it will clog, but even fine granulars will eventually clog up and after a few rows the output will be substantially reduced. I always carry a thin wire/rod with me to clear up the clogs as I go, but as you clear up the clogs you invariably are going to drop a load of fert/seed when you are doing it (and that might lead to spot burning on your lawn). Lastly, the wheels impede side to side broadcasting, so you need to make sure you cut the rate down and overlap in a criss-cross pattern to even things out. But even then you might have streaks with higher nitrogen ferts where they hit the wheels. I still have mine, but I am definitely moving on to another spreader.
I started with a Scotts Elite and then upgraded to an Earthway 2600. I don't regret a thing. The tires are amazing, and the way it spreads is phenomenal. I couldn't imagine going back to Scotts. The only drawback is what he mentioned. I'm 6' 1" and the Earthway is short. It is sort of a bother, but not. The thing spreads great and vast, so I'm not in that hunched position for long. I get my yard done faster than I would with the Scotts Elite. So it does make up for it.
Thank you for the Info Sir! And thank you for the good Laugh when you tossed the first Scott spreader! Omg! I was cracking up!
I bought the Earthway 2600 a few years ago because of this channel, it is a GREAT spreader!
This year I'm getting something with neumatic wheels for my St Aug. Heaven knows after following your lawn program it is an absolute must.
I've got the Echo and love it
Thx Alyn!
I have the echo and for the modest amount of fertilizing I do it’s great. I came from having a lesco in the field and I feel like for the price of the echo I think it’s a good buy. Im happy you put it in the mix!
Excellent video Allyn! Because I have issues, I still have the Scott's mid-level in my garage, but I AM switching to a handspreader next season. Those hollow wheels can also cause lines in your lawn. Fert gets inside the wheels, accumulates and then spills out as you walk. So, you have to duct tape or cover up the inside open area of the wheels.
Well said on the wheels. Scott’s spreaders are really poorly made. Better off buying a quality spreader. Wish I did but sadly I’ve had the Scott’s. Going to invest in a better one asap.
Great vid! Back when I started with the LCN (2015/6) I bought an Earthway 2150 for our 9k yard. It's a beast! Huge tires, very solid, terrible add-on edge guard. One thing to also think about for future shoppers is the spreader weight. We have a really inclined yard with a lot of variation. Pushing that sucker around with half of a load of fert up hills can really be something. Allyn's call-out about operator height is also great, behind hunched over is miserable.
New entry to the LCN top ten list right here. Great analysis, top notch production quality and unbiased opinion. I always watch your videos but this one stands above the rest Allyn. 👍
Thank you. I enjoy this format too. And digging into these things deep like this, I always learn something new that makes me a better applicator.
I have the Echo RB 60. Got it back in 2020 when they were $100. Good spreader, and waaaay better than Scotts spreader, which I also own.
Man I am so lucky I have learned so much from just what all the tons of different assortments of lawn equipment my neighbors throw out!! I found a Scott's Turf Builder Classic and I'm so excited to try it today!
roadside spreader finds are the best!
@@TheLawnCareNut they are!!😃😸💚
Great video, lots of helpful information. I’ve had my RB-60 for a couple seasons now and it has never let me down.
I have had mine 2 seasons also, works great!
I just picked up a Lesco 60lb spreader… its pretty awesome!
The RB 60 is the best one I’ve used. The spread of fert is awesome!
agreed!
I special ordered the Echo from H.Depot service desk, now for half an acre of land at a cost of about 160 dollars. Best investment yet as far as fertilizing something goes. Has about an 8 foot throw. Can hold about 12000 S.foot worth in each fill. 😊
Great stuff,as usual. I’m still using an Ortho broadcast that I purchased over 30 years ago. Paid a premium price back then, but it has has certainly returned great value. As you mention, the biggest PITA with cheaper models is the calibration and product distribution. Pay attention to quality when purchasing, and you will experience less frustration and enjoy the spread.
For taller guys like me the Brinly-Hardy 50lb spreader is the same exact design as the Earthway (except for the edge guard) and the handle is adjustable and comfortable for those over 6ft. Throw’er down! Love the videos!
Absolutely my favorite too. Works like a charm -- and actually much less assembly required than with the Earthway, as it comes mostly assembled. Made in Indiana (more or less down the road from Earthway's plant) and very rugged indeed.
@@pat5873 the country of origin is listed as China. This one of those made in usa with global material instances? Or made in China?
Great and informative video as usual. When my Scotts DLX wheels came off, after some research I purchased the Earthway Spreader. Wheels are much better, and I have enjoyed using it. Well worth the money...
Great video Allyn. I agree, this is definitely a product where you want to spend your money and buy quality and stay away from the cheap junk ones. After going through a few Scotts spreaders I upgraded last year to a Spyker Ergo Pro and I absolutely love it. Very well built, not cheap plastic parts, and it spreads much more even than the cheaper spreaders. This was the best purchase, I wish I would have bought it first and not wasted the money on the Scott's.
Buy once, cry once for me. I picked up a Lesco 80 lb. I am in my yard every day during the season and figure I might as well have the tools the pros use.
Having said that, I also cut with a Toro 3250D triplex mower.That is definitely a pro tool.
Love the videos!
I bought a Lesco spreader quite a few years ago and love it. It was not cheap at close to $500 but well worth the cost.
I agree, they are hands down the best if you are willing to invest.
I agree! I have a lesco with the upgraded agitator and its hands down the best I’ve ever used. Probably the only brand spreader Ill ever own
I have the Lesco 80lb as well with the upgraded agitator. I can’t imagine ever needing another spreader.
I used to work for lawn company, so when I had the chance to pick up Lesco (like new) from company going out of business I jumped all over it. Think I got it for under $100
Well all is right in the world today. It’s Sunday afternoon and LCN posted a new video on UA-cam. Great video Allyn, keep it going please. My vote is for the Earthway.
I just bought the echo rb 60 spreader, and I'm looking forward to using it in the lawn.
... this shows you how "individual user experience may vary...I like my Edgeguard Mini, which I caught on sale for around $25...I've used it for several years, maintaining two yards of 10,000-12,000sq ft, doing about 7-8 applications each year...I've had no balance issues, plastic tire problems, etc... it does have to be refilled more often, which means that I get a little more walking in... so choices are great!...😊
Love my Echo… definitely “set it and forget it!”
Just Ordered my Earthway !!!
I have the Elite and it sucks. It broke once but Scotts did send me another one for a few bucks to send the lever back.
When you hose it off and blow dry it it still will leak rusty colored water 🙄.
Thanks for the review Al!
Great video! I have the Scotts Edge Guard Deluxe and, after 2 years, the spinner on the inside of the holding container literally broke off. Still had the receipt and was able to return it for a replacement. But I'd invest in the Earthway next time being on 3/4 acre.
Got the Echo for Christmas. Looking forward to using it this season. I can ditch both my Scotts spreaders
I have a Scotts mini, but I got it free when I bought the house. It works.
Great vid! I had the Scott’s DLX and it lasted 2 applications before the stupid plastic impeller agitator split up the middle and wouldn’t spin anymore. I tried a number of fixes, even messaged Scott’s for a new part. Eventually I gave up and trashed it. Waste of money and you’re correct, not cheap.
I have the Earth way, I really like it, I am 6 foot six and have no problem using it. By far the better quality of all of them. Also, I enjoyed putting mine together, you do learn how it operates. And definitely two beers, lol
I’ve had my Scott’s DLX for close to 15 years. I think I’m ready for an upgrade 😂
you got your money's worth!
🎯I think the biggest problem with spreaders is how they're taken care of and how they're stored. The cheaper spreaders have a tendency to get beat up more because they're thrown all around garages and not hung and they're also thrown in cars and pick up trucks and things of that nature and that can damage them you may not think that you're damaging them but that's why they have a tendency to fall apart faster and break and not give proper rates.
I agree for sure.
I thoroughly rinsed and stored my $240 earthway, it still rusted to pieces in 6 years. Who knew that I had to wax and repaint all the cheap tubular steel. Plastic hopper with stainless parts should be the standard, and it shouldn’t cost $600.
@@buckbenelli8 agree, I would expect a 308 or similar grade SS in those units, esp around fertilizer. Although, 6 years is pretty good! See what happens to a brand new car in Upstate NY!
Definitely used 100% hand spreading in college 😂 I'm actually looking for a new spreader, this video was perfect for this upcoming year! Great job Al!
"Two Beer Assembly." Well done. Have the Echo and have been happy. Upgraded from the Scott's mini after I got bad fert lines that would not correct with all the recommendations.
I'm curious, when you were using the Scotts and getting the lines - were you applying Milorganite? Or did it happen with other ferts too?
Very nice video definitely help me to choose my spreader thanks for the nice job and info
Ive been using the scotts edgaurd mini for 3 or 4 years. Never had an issue. But, it is time to upgrade.
Hi Allen. The Vigoro hand spreader has 5 settings for distribution rate. How do you know what setting to use when you look at a bag of your fertilizer? Thank you, love all your videos.
The Echo has been solid. I changed the tires to flat free.
My Lesco spreader is a beast. Professional quality and has actual grease fittings and real tires. Will last a long time, and throws fertilizer a long ways.
I have a large lawn, about 24000 ft of lawn. I bought the Earthway 2600 in Sep 2021 and really like it. However in late Spring 2022, the drive wheel started locking up. Played with a few times to get it going again, but after a couple of uses it locked up again. Bought the Scott’s Elite in early June and have had no issues, other than the issue you pointed out about the drops rates on each side being uneven.
The Elite does seem like a good choice for a lawn the size of yours. Glad you like it!
The Earthway was still under warranty and they do honor it.
Were you unable to contact them?
@@wayneessar7489 I did not contact them, didn’t have time to wait as I had to get fertilizer out the next day. I do still occasionally use it if I am doing a small area.
I went from a cheaper Scotts to an Anderson 2000 SR professional spreader and it was worth it to me for 10k sq ft. For lower end units like you are showing the things to look for, pneumatic tires and the ability to put a whole bag of fertilizer in.
The Fertilome spreader was the best used. Had baked on paint to metal with round tub, static setting, on off only. Now using Scott’sElite and I really like it for 15K Turf type fescue lawn. I agree, the Earthway round tub is the best! 👍 Great Review TOO!
Used a Earthway for years. I tried a hand crank last year and will never go back to the Earthway. The hand crank has so much more control, and seemed to be faster. Very simple to use.
Scott’s edgeguard mini stripes my lawn with larger pearls
I have the same Shindawia spreader I bought back in 2003. Still works like new.
I have the RB60 and like it accept for a couple of things. First, I shortened the spring for the gate control. Just cut the hook off and made a new hook. I could feel that sometimes the gate would stick open so more return tension helped. Second, and the thing I dislike the most is the too low of an angle on the sides. When I do my 2000sf divided up areas when I get to the end I have to do the walking jerk/shake to get the last bit to drop. The bottom needs to be steeper to funnel the product down. I have tried waxing, spraying with silicone but it was a no go.
This thing is 100% better than the Scotts edge guard that left beautiful dark green lines in my lawn.
I've heard a lot of people mention the gate getting stuck open too. Slamming it back harder seems like the perfect solution. For the side rake being shallow, I agree. I end up bumping the spreader alot towards the end of a run. I probably should do a video showing this because anyone who uses the RB60 does it - like a friggin dance lol.
I have both a handheld spreader and a Scotts cheapy spreader and I have to say the hand spreader is so much easier and quicker to use I've only got about 4000 ft of lawn but it's all cut up into different sections and it works out much better. I'd like to have a nice expensive spreader but it would just be money thrown down the drain given the amount of times they use it during the year.
hand held is the way to go!
Great vid Allyn, well done.
I didn't know Echo had one, very cool.
I did the Scott's thing twice, after 2 throwaways, I looked at the Earthway and also the Lesco 50lb spreader at Site One. After seeing the Lesco in person, it was a no brainer for me.
Yes, more expensive, but with the stainless hardware, pneumatic tires, grease fittings, and a hopper cover, it's worthy of it's now $300 price tag....I'm extremely happy with it, no regrets. Only Achilles of the Lesco, is the flat bottom near the openings, you have to wiggle it around a little when it's low on material, but not a deal breaker. That's kinda the norm with most spreaders anyway. I wish for the $$ it was more tapered.
Take care.
I used the Scot’s mini once. I like the size but my yard is not that big and it spreads fairly well, a little to the left. Which i was quickly able to identify and adjusted my pattern, but over all I’m happy and the price was right. I neglected my bigger spreader and it’s not spinning. Looking to repair it.
My favorite spreader is the Lesco
I am watching your video because I am replacing my Earthway spreader. 10 years old but the last 2 were very frustrating. It's a design issue where the linkage arm pushes down and forward on the plastic gate. Because the forces are at an angle to the direction the gate rotates in, the plastic gets weaker and weaker over time. Eventually the plastic bends down instead of rotating so you have to tap it with your foot to get it to close. I got more life from it by oiling the plate before every use but then dust would eventually cake on it and I would be right back where I started. I finally trashed it last week. Another thing to note is that the base is large and flat meaning you have to bounce it left and right with the gate full open to get the last of the material out, and that is not controlled at all. I feel like it's designed to run between 25%-100% full. Looks like the Echo may be the replacement I choose.
MSN. I haven't tapped into LCN channel in a minute, I come back and LCN looks 50lbs lighter, nice work Allan👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽, keep it up on both ends, the channel and getting fit.👍🏾💯
Thanks! 😂
Excellent video Allyn, as usual. I am so happy with my Echo RB-60 but I am thinking of moving to a hand spreader like you suggest...especially since my lawn is broken into a couple of sections less than 2,000 sq feet. I currently have the Scotts Whizz spreader and I use it for areas between sidewalk and street, along with some granular insect applications around the house. I don't think the Whizz can hold up to 6 lbs of your product, but I'll have to see here in the spring. If not I'll probably look at purchasing the hand spreader you share in this video. Thanks again!
Nor sure I've seen it mentioned, but I recommend (always) rinsing out your spreader after any application. I use my leaf blower to help in the drying process.
Great video quickly and concisely explains, Thanks. Between the Echo and Earthway, which is easier to push? I have 17sq ft with hills ugh!
I have the Echo RB60! I find it’s the best middle of the road broadcast spreader for a DIY or a professional. Don’t forget to put air in the tires 👍
Someone commented to me about this a few months ago and I found mine were flat!!! Was it you who told me about that? I had them with no air for like 2 years prior lol
I have an Earthway 2050 I bought it from a Nursery because it was already assembled worth it
good find!
I have the Earthway 2600 and it works great. I am 6 feet tall so it does feel a little short. A number of years ago I picked up a Scott’s DLX (it came with pneumatic tires) and have been using that one for spreading ice melt in the winter.
Do most bags have settings for Earthway or how do you translate from Scott's to yours?
@@JonJonJonJonJon Most have settings for the Earthway. I've actually been using The Lawn Car Nut's products lately and they have the Earthway settings on the bag.
I have the Scott’s elite spreader and don’t like it. I bought other Scott spreaders and they don’t last. I’m going to purchase an echo or earthway one when I get the chance. Great video and can’t wait for spring!
Thank you for the information! Does the drop rate change on the earthway when you engage the trim guard?
Echo it is. Thank you sir.
I originally had some super cheap no name spreader I got from my brother-in-law. Lasted maybe 4 years with intermittent use. Then I got the Scotts Edgeguard DLX, it only lasted 3 seasons or regular use before it fell apart. Scotts did reimburse me for the cost of the spreader. Picked up an older model Earthway 2150 for $75 a few months ago off craigslist, built like a tank, though I am still getting used to it as I have used maybe twice now. It can be converted to side spread control according to Earthway. I have the part just haven't tried to install yet, hopefully before start of this season. I shouldn't need another spreader. It is very stable on a bumpy yard, actually has the gate close when I pull the lever and doesn't track fertilizer on the inside of the wheel. A big pro tip is to clean it regularly with a hose to remove salts and fertilizer. Keeping the tray clean ensures proper spread pattern.
the 2150 is a really solid unit. I'll be interested to know how the side spread control conversion works out for you.
Nice selection of spreaders! I broke my edge guard on my Scott’s Elite, spreader still works but I love the edge guard. I would agree on the edge guard mini, horrible unit. I still have the big brother The Edge Guard DLX I purchased it when I replaced another spreader, I paid $60 for mine, it’s ok but I was not a big fan of the unit mostly because of the wheels. I purchased it to replace my Scott’s 3000 which I thought was better. Looking to get a nicer more pro spreader this year since I do use it commercially along with my ride on perma green unit. Good stuff Allyn
If I was doing this day and and day out for customers, I would have a Lesco or Spyker. I have also recently seen professional applicators in my comments talking about how they keep a small hand crank spreaader too - for hitting parkways or small strips. I remember in my TG days in Chicago, the guys who did the postage stamps all day would use handcranks for entire yards. They were actually chest spreaders in those days.
@@TheLawnCareNut I do carry a crank hand spreader, I was eyeing up the Robi spreader you were showing, I didn’t think it looked that bad. Thanks for the suggestions, I will need to pick one up soon
Excellent video, and very informative. I have wanted an earthy for some time and your review has been inciteful. Although, I use Scott products on my lawn and there are no instructions for Earthway settings. Do you have any advice for a DIY guy like me?
I have a large yard, so I got the tow behind Brinly. I never really see it listed on products, but you had a video about getting these things dialed in and I need to get back to that. I am waiting on some replacement parts for the Brinly and their customer service is great! Until then, I'm hunched over with a little red unit that I cannot remember the name. Either way, it's narrow and tippy and somewhat awful. Love your videos. Thank you.
Living in Oklahoma, I just take a large bag of whatever I need to spread, dump it on the sidewalk in front of my house and in a few hours, either some straight line winds or a tornado will have it evenly spread out across the yard. Then the rain and hail will make sure it gets in the soil good.
I started with the Scotts Elite. Did the job but build quality wasnt great. Moved to the Echo and have been using it for a few years. Its great for the most part. My only complaint with the RB60 is the edge guard just redirects the fert and it will sometimes fall on its own.
I had a small Cyclone rotary spreader that I used for many years, it worked just fine until it finally rotted-out (it was my wife’s grandfathers). I was all set on purchasing a new Earthway but ended up finding a great deal on a stainless Lesco that had a bent axle. Made a new axle out of a piece of stainless and it’s as good as new. Love the capacity and how far it can throw the fertilizer when compared to my old spreader. I’d say it cut my time down to a 1/3. You get what you pay for and this will definitely be my last spreader!
you got a good deal there and got to have a project at the same time. Win Win!
The prices have soared the past 1 1/2 yrs!! I did a lot of research before my purchase and agree with LCN, Earthway is the one to choose...buy once cry once!!
Excellent video 📹!
I have the DXL and two hand helds. I use the hand helds more often too. They are just easier. I have a hand crank one and a battery powered one. I use the tippy DXL for my large back yard only.
Earthway 2600a plus is awesome! Cannot recommend it enough.
I hvae an earthway now. But not before going through several ones with plastic wheels. I have about 18,000 sqft and the plastic wheels just don't cut it. The Earthway is fantastic. Like a Cadillac of the lawn.
I purchased the Earthways spreader based on LCN and recommendation 5 years ago. He’s right you need to be short. And also the metal frame is rusted like crazy, same with the screws, which is made it difficult to use and change the settings. I do rinse it with water after use and dry in sun. Still better than the Scott’s though.
I purchased an Agrifab spreader a few weeks ago. It holds an advertised 130 lbs. pain to assemble and no edge guard but for me, it is great. I put down several hundred pounds of quick acting lime. I’m 6’2” and I like the height of the spreader. Made in the USA. By me I think 😂
I love my Earthway. I've tried the Scotts, and they only lasted about 2 seasons. They're not bad, but not on the same level as the earthway.
agreed
I've had my Earthway for roughly 6 years and while it's a great spreader I don't love it. The edge guard kept sliding closed so I removed it, the adjustment wing nut broke and the screws/frame are corroding. I see Alan's Earthway is yellow which makes me wonder if he had those parts replaced. Great video!
you have the older version. This bottom plate is re-designed. For sure though, on my old one, I had to keep the moving parts well lubed.
I grew up with drop spreaders. I can see the appeal of a broadcast spreaders faster application rate. But how do you manage accurate application for things like overseeding, irregular shaped lawns, and adjoining concrete and pavers?
Ahhh yes a LCN video to satisfy the craving of lawn care. I actually was fighting the urge to get out the mower to mow today (Indiana and still dormant), but wait I just called my dealer and he laced an order for my new Exmark. Lol
yeah you guys have had some pretty warm days this winter already! Enjoy that new ride!
One thing to note is that the Scotts Elite spreader does require assembly, I ordered mine from amazon when it was on sale and I had to assemble it. It is not complicated but if you are new and have not dealt with lawn equipment that sometimes use cotter pins that you have to bend back to secure something (the wheels in this case), it can be a little confusing.
IMO, the biggest advantage of the Elite over the Mini and Deluxe is its wider stance, making it far less likely to tip over. If you have a hopper full of synthetics and the spreader tips over on the lawn, that will ruin your day for sure.
Great video topic. I can speak on the Scott's, as a typical DIY user, had two of the DLX models previously (one given to me). Not dependable spreaders at all haha. Granted, I failed a time or two to wash out the fert. That did damage the spreader and was my fault. However the quality is just...flimsy. I have the Elite now which I purchased to save dough, and it's..ok. I've treated it right but still at times as you said, it doesn't drop consistently. Put a few bucks in it and get a decent spreader. I wish I learned this sooner. Great content for new buyers.
I have the RB-60...I like that it has the setting numbers of multiple spreaders....so is someone's product only has scott's or earthway's number settings but not the other.....you can adjust your RB-60 to use the product rather than guessing um...that looks about right....then over/under spreading it
A couple quick things on the Echo, and maybe you have some solutions. I do love it, and I had a scotts mini before, so anything is better! But occasionally, the setting jumps on me. I think what happens is a granule lodges between the discs, and when I squeeze or release the lever, say at the end of a row, it'll hop settings on me, and all of a sudden I'm dumping fert at a 9 or whatever. Trying to think of a way to clamp the lever in place. Also, the shallow hopper makes it hard to get the last bit to spread. I've tried zip ties, it helps, but nothing is perfect. Lastly, the edge guard flap can fall sometimes. I happened to have a super short bungee cord, so I just use that to hold it up. It also throws material way further than the scotts, so I think that's why people sometimes think the settings are a little generous. Gotta broaden your pattern. I got mine for 99, so I'm ok working around this stuff!
How do you achieve consistency with the Earthway if the level can be set to a different position every time you set it? I think I vote for the Echo.
I have the Echo one 500$ and is solid and casts the material farther than ive ever seen 😮👍 Totally worth the money but I own a Landscaping business 😂
I've wanted to try their higher end models myself - I'm going to see if I can get a demo.
Very informative and true. The mini is no good. Hit a rut or bump and say goodbye to your product, And hello to a burn spot if it’s fertilizer. I will definitely look into the echo. I do have good luck with Scott’s whiz, and I’ve been using it a lot lately. I’ll be replacing that with the ryobi handheld at some point. Save a little $$ on batteries.
I have the EdgeGuard Mini and the handheld as well. Have used them both for years on my 1700 sq ft lawn. I am thinking about getting a Solo Chest held spreader. They are reasonably priced and have more control of the product being applied as well as a comfortable solution and not dealing with plastic wheels or uneven grounds that can cause spillage .
I had the Solo Chest Spreader and it spreads great, but it was a pain in the ass to put on and the fert is right in your face. Your shoes also fill with fert to when you stop and go. Let’s put it this way I have a walk behind again.
@@Regnarrussell Thanks for the heads up Josh. I will take that into consideration when making my decision .
Was looking into the Earthway spreaders...they no longer come with a deflector...you have to buy it now as an accessory.
Thanks for the info. Im mostly familiar to lesco. and have had some scotts but havent really used many since ive not owned my own lawn. but i do now.,
Hi LCN, I listen to you a lot on UA-cam.
I have had maybe 3 hand held spreaders and none have worked for me. The large granules grind and turning the handle is super hard, therefore the application is not even. I have also had Scotts spreaders (notice the 'S') where the granules decide not to come down making me having to shake the tub as I walk along! Or, the wheels stop turning! I finally gave up on big box stores and bought an Earthway 2600 A+. My husband and I tried to put that thing together with directions that used tiny (font) faint letters, on very old paper (like these directions have been copied 3,000 times). We called Support I think 3 times! 6 hours later the spreader was ready to work.
In use I did not understand to move the lever to stop it before the end of the lap. When I did stop it and start again tons of granules came out that had settled in the whirly (sorry I do not know the proper names)! I actually burned my grass in several places when it would just drop fert that was still on the whirly below. I listened to you when you said "Don't be afraid to fertilize your lawn, you won't burn it!" Well I did. Now I have, again, had to call, email with pictures how the lever will not open and close properly. The rod grinds against the leg and the edger guard rarely works! Their videos do not help; they too are generalized with out any one talking to explain what to do. We have had it with them BUT they are going to send us a new one stating there is a problem with the legs. Back to putting it together (6 hours)! If you have any suggestions I would love to hear it.
What is your favorite or best push spreader going over bare dirt when establishing new yards?
My Scotts Deluxe Edge Guard had been working fine until this summer when the axle rusted through and broke. Big disappointment as I was only half way through my lawn at the time and the hopper was more than half full. I always rinsed my spreader out when finished so was surprised that the axle rusted out.
I just pick up a Craftsman CMMSPA080, a 80 lb variant of the Chapin 82050C from my local Ace for $129. I wanted one with the round hopper and the Chapin and Earthway were on my watch list, but I was leaning more towards the Chapin due to the larger hopper. I stumbled onto this deal by chance and couldn't pass it up.
Thanks for this vid Allyn! I've been using a Scott's mini for two seasons now (that i got for free so I've gotten my $ worth I guess) and my real issue with it (and now I know about A LOT more issues thanks to you sir) is size. I'm 6'7" inches tall and treat around 6K in lawn size. I have to stop and sit after each quadrant I treat because my back is killing me! I do not have any other back issues with anything else I do so I'm guessing it has to do with the angle my body needs to be at to push around this pile of crap! You talk briefly about the dowside to the Earthway for taller people but what spreader would you suggest for those of us "doorway challenged" folks 🙂? BTW... I've not seen a big and tall lawn maintenece brand. Hmm? Opportunity? 🙂
I'm 5'11" and the Earthway still kills my back after using it. Need to upgrade to something more comfortable.
With 6k lawn think about a hand crank spreader (will be at the height you need.)
How does a spyker spreader compare in your opinion? I tried one seems to push on the heavy side.