Its good to see someone waxing traps the right way with just melted wax. I see a lot of videos where they melt the wax on top of water or on the water that traps were boiled in. That does not do a good job. I used to wax but I finally went to the speed dip. It took a while for me to be convinced to use speed dip. I thought the gasoline that is used to mix the dip would be smelled by the animals. A old trapper finally convinced me to try it. He did all his fox and racoon traps too with the speed dip and he had no problem scaring animals. I did mainly beaver,mink, otter and muskrat. The dip worked great on the traps. When done right the dip will hold up for a long time. I didn't have to do them every year. I never went back to the time consuming boiling and waxing. Make sure to dip traps a few months ahead to give gas smell time to go away.
One point of safety: When waxing, before you lift the traps out of the pot with the molten wax dripping off, turn off the flame. This will prevent the possibility of having wax drip onto the open flame, causing a flare up that can ignite the traps and the entire pot of molten wax. GREAT VIDEO!
My traps have been cleaned and have a coat of rust, ill dye them in a couple days and then wax them. I bought 10lbs. of wax to dip them like you did in the video, but I watched another video where the guy melted one lb. of wax in water, the wax floats on the water, when a cold trap goes in the water it takes wax down with it, when the trap comes up to temperature it will melt the wax off and the wax will float back on top. Lift trap slowly out of the water and the wax will adhere to the trap, and it's ready to hang & dry.
To save money on wax, fill pot with water , add wax , wax floats on water. Heat water and wax melts and floats on top. Put trap in water for 1 minute and pull trap out slowly like you're hydro dipping . Works great and saves money
Have you tried Full Metal Jacket speed dip? It leaves a rock hard coat on your trap but has no scent once dry and no build up. It smooths action like wax does but it's a lot better than wax at protecting traps.i dip my snares, snaps, and conibears. I just take a bit of sandpaper to where the trigger is. I used to use wax but the full metal is much better IMO.
Urban Hunterz It's all personal preference. For me, I really like a Bridger trap but they do require some modification. A duke is a cost effective trap as well, some people swear by them. I just prefer the quality and function of a Bridger trap.
I've watched your channel a lot, and one thing I always didn't like about your trapping videos is the traps. Buy half a dozen MB-550's or k-9 extremes and then tell me what you think of them duke #3's you use
Ok, new to this want to know the key answer I have not found yet. Why do you have to treat “new traps”? Won’t they just work fine with the original packing grease? Reason I am asking, I have seen guys set traps and make catches right out of the packages.
+ZapZ you can use a 30:70 ratio of vinegar:water to soak the traps in to clean excess rust off, scrape with a wire brush then baking soda to neutralize. If you are just looking to speed up the surface rust try the same solution in s spray bottle then neutralize. The vinegar can do damage to the trap if left in too long.
+Jacob Krahenbill I prefer to not use paint because of the potential smell of the VOC's. Logwood dying and waxing is a traditional method taught to me, so that is what I use. Others use different methods as well, it's what you prefer.
Great video. Have you had any issues with the Duke Stoploss? I bought a few at the end of our season and haven't had a chance to use them. I just wondered how the spring bar works out without having the delay like a Bridger or Victor.
Do not use water. Used plain wax . Make sure all water is dried off traps before putting in the wax. Make sure wax is hot enough or you will end up with a very thick coat of wax that will flake and chip off.
I'm a beginner and dont have many traps to wax. I did not buy a lot of wax. I see some guys put waxt in water and just pull the trap through the wax "skim" on top of the water. Will that work?
Dipped 6 traps in kbl to try quick dip. Gas smell was still bad after a month of outdoor air. Removed kbl with boiling wax. Took it mostly off for the most part and ruined 5 lbs of wax. Do not recommend quick dip except on water traps (maybe).
hey peter i live in australia and i can buy traps from here i just received some #3 dogless traps today. try western trapping supplies there in toowomba can order online aswell
Kkurtz21 The dye seals the pores of the steel and adheres to the rust to keep them lasting longer. Some say it doesn't matter, but I like to do it for the tradition of it. The wax speeds up the function of the trap, and also keeps them scent free.
next year how do you strip the old wax off? Lye will eat the aluminum Ferrell off the cable stakes. You will really like those wolf fangs till you pull them May I invite you to minktoberfest. Don Powell's Mink trapping get together.
Jeff DeBord adding die color to the trap is similar to painting them..it prevents your investment from rusting through and in the process kills human scent in the hot water...the wax also helps protect the trap and kinda seal the trap to be scent free...it also speeds em up real fast. Hope this helps
+Jacob Krahenbill yes you can. Most K9 Trappers prefer Formula One or Dakota Line Snare Coat bc they are mixed with water and relatively odorless. You can then wax after the formula is dry.
ghetomedc I use the Following: Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer - Rustoleum Flat Black - and Acetone at a 1:1:1 Ratio. make sure your traps have a glaze of rust on them and are free of paint repelling oil.
ghetomedc when paint dipping you don't want it to thick, if you do make sure you work your trap springs/dogs/levers to make sure they are fast when dried. Also, you might want to tape your conibear triggers and just hit w spraypaint. I had to do some filing work on the triggers holding paint.
I boiled hundreds of traps with no problem. Check into getting speed dip to do your traps. Works great. Just do them a few months ahead to give gas smell time to go away.
Its good to see someone waxing traps the right way with just melted wax. I see a lot of videos where they melt the wax on top of water or on the water that traps were boiled in. That does not do a good job.
I used to wax but I finally went to the speed dip. It took a while for me to be convinced to use speed dip. I thought the gasoline that is used to mix the dip would be smelled by the animals. A old trapper finally convinced me to try it. He did all his fox and racoon traps too with the speed dip and he had no problem scaring animals. I did mainly beaver,mink, otter and muskrat. The dip worked great on the traps. When done right the dip will hold up for a long time. I didn't have to do them every year. I never went back to the time consuming boiling and waxing. Make sure to dip traps a few months ahead to give gas smell time to go away.
I love dyeing and waxing traps. It makes for some good cold beer drinking .
HAHA it really is a good way to spend the day....Look forward to it every year.
One point of safety: When waxing, before you lift the traps out of the pot with the molten wax dripping off, turn off the flame. This will prevent the possibility of having wax drip onto the open flame, causing a flare up that can ignite the traps and the entire pot of molten wax. GREAT VIDEO!
My traps have been cleaned and have a coat of rust, ill dye them in a couple days and then wax them.
I bought 10lbs. of wax to dip them like you did in the video, but I watched another video where the guy melted one lb. of wax in water, the wax floats on the water, when a cold trap goes in the water it takes wax down with it, when the trap comes up to temperature it will melt the wax off and the wax will float back on top.
Lift trap slowly out of the water and the wax will adhere to the trap, and it's ready to hang & dry.
To save money on wax, fill pot with water , add wax , wax floats on water. Heat water and wax melts and floats on top. Put trap in water for 1 minute and pull trap out slowly like you're hydro dipping . Works great and saves money
Have you tried Full Metal Jacket speed dip? It leaves a rock hard coat on your trap but has no scent once dry and no build up. It smooths action like wax does but it's a lot better than wax at protecting traps.i dip my snares, snaps, and conibears. I just take a bit of sandpaper to where the trigger is. I used to use wax but the full metal is much better IMO.
I love it myself have not seen a coom shine that off
Great video. I'm looking forward to November
Smart choice! Due yes ! Wax no ! On your conibear ! Lol ! Keep up the good work!!
Nice view of the back of your hand in the beginning
The Bridger looks more effective then a Duke? Great videos btw!
Urban Hunterz It's all personal preference. For me, I really like a Bridger trap but they do require some modification. A duke is a cost effective trap as well, some people swear by them. I just prefer the quality and function of a Bridger trap.
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Alright thanks! I've only used duke.
what is the benefit of using soft jaw traps ?
I've watched your channel a lot, and one thing I always didn't like about your trapping videos is the traps. Buy half a dozen MB-550's or k-9 extremes and then tell me what you think of them duke #3's you use
I love your video I am running a “ trap line “ in North Central Kansas on our farm ground. Ps I used your tanning strategy.
Ok, new to this want to know the key answer I have not found yet. Why do you have to treat “new traps”? Won’t they just work fine with the original packing grease? Reason I am asking, I have seen guys set traps and make catches right out of the packages.
Im new to trapping and curious about paint dipping canine traps but don't see anyone doing it.
Can i just paint my traps ? Won't the critters smell the paint and avoid the traps ? Also is Parafin Canning Wax the same stuff I can use ?
Yes, paint your traps, let them air out, and then wax with Trap Wax
I used vinegar and I was wondering how long I should soak it in water and baking soda to neutralize it
+ZapZ you can use a 30:70 ratio of vinegar:water to soak the traps in to clean excess rust off, scrape with a wire brush then baking soda to neutralize. If you are just looking to speed up the surface rust try the same solution in s spray bottle then neutralize. The vinegar can do damage to the trap if left in too long.
Thanks for the knowledge!
What was the 3rd ingredient to the paint solution, black what?
+Jacob Krahenbill I prefer to not use paint because of the potential smell of the VOC's. Logwood dying and waxing is a traditional method taught to me, so that is what I use. Others use different methods as well, it's what you prefer.
Can i use acorns. Oak bark has tannins so acorns should have it too .
Great video. Have you had any issues with the Duke Stoploss? I bought a few at the end of our season and haven't had a chance to use them. I just wondered how the spring bar works out without having the delay like a Bridger or Victor.
Dave M I did not have an issue with them other than you have to work the spring back and forth after paint dipping. It fires great after that.
I live on Leatherwood Rd. in KY. Thats crazy
how much water do u put in with the wax
You should never mix water with wax as this can cause an explosion
Make sure the water doesn’t boil
Do not use water. Used plain wax . Make sure all water is dried off traps before putting in the wax. Make sure wax is hot enough or you will end up with a very thick coat of wax that will flake and chip off.
I'm a beginner and dont have many traps to wax. I did not buy a lot of wax. I see some guys put waxt in water and just pull the trap through the wax "skim" on top of the water. Will that work?
Yes
Works great
i ran 3lbs last year and caught what all kinds of critters
Dipped 6 traps in kbl to try quick dip. Gas smell was still bad after a month of outdoor air. Removed kbl with boiling wax. Took it mostly off for the most part and ruined 5 lbs of wax. Do not recommend quick dip except on water traps (maybe).
What brand trap is that your adjusting the pan on?
Bridger 2 Dogless
I can't legally use body grippers on land in West Virginia. Am I missing much?
No. Not a fan of body grip traps on land anyways, too much potential to kill a non target animal.
Damn government control again, telling folks what to use and what not to use ! Big Brother a-holes !
triumphmanful nobody. Has to know what trap to use. Set your trap and shut the other trap lol
Nope
tanks video im mb 650 IL duke trap (minnesotatrapline) im italy
Put the wax in with the dye. Pull out the traps very slowly. Less wax. Les fuss. It worked 50 years ago??
yeah man that works too!
wow you have alot of kewl traps there . would you be interested in selling me some ? . i live in australia and we cant buy them here
peter rudd order some off eBay or Amazon
but you said they cost $3 or $4 , on ebay theyre asking atleast 5 times that
hey peter i live in australia and i can buy traps from here i just received some #3 dogless traps today. try western trapping supplies there in toowomba can order online aswell
what does the dye/wax do?
Kkurtz21 The dye seals the pores of the steel and adheres to the rust to keep them lasting longer. Some say it doesn't matter, but I like to do it for the tradition of it. The wax speeds up the function of the trap, and also keeps them scent free.
I understand the ritual I used to do it this way but now it’s pressure wash spray paint and zep the end. Still takes longer my way lol!! I’m an idiot
next year how do you strip the old wax off? Lye will eat the aluminum Ferrell off the cable stakes.
You will really like those wolf fangs till you pull them
May I invite you to minktoberfest. Don Powell's Mink trapping get together.
can you tell me why you have to dye them. whats the purpose ? why not just wax them
Jeff DeBord it get all the human sent off the traps so the fox or coctye don't smell it check out my channel please
Jeff DeBord adding die color to the trap is similar to painting them..it prevents your investment from rusting through and in the process kills human scent in the hot water...the wax also helps protect the trap and kinda seal the trap to be scent free...it also speeds em up real fast. Hope this helps
You dont have to dye. I do it because the spirit of trapping starts with Logwood dye and a roadkill skunk
Could I have a trap? Plz
You from Leatherwood??
from western pa
@@Leatherwoodoutdoors2 ok thanks, just know of a place called Leatherwood close to me, not the same...
could you just dip the footraps in the paint and then spraypaint over that?
+Jacob Krahenbill yes you can. Most K9 Trappers prefer Formula One or Dakota Line Snare Coat bc they are mixed with water and relatively odorless. You can then wax after the formula is dry.
Can you share that recipe again for the paint dip plz?
ghetomedc I use the Following: Rustoleum Rusty Metal Primer - Rustoleum Flat Black - and Acetone at a 1:1:1 Ratio. make sure your traps have a glaze of rust on them and are free of paint repelling oil.
Thanks Adam
ghetomedc when paint dipping you don't want it to thick, if you do make sure you work your trap springs/dogs/levers to make sure they are fast when dried. Also, you might want to tape your conibear triggers and just hit w spraypaint. I had to do some filing work on the triggers holding paint.
I heard that if you boil your traps it weaken your traps !so i paint my flat black ! Lol !
I boiled hundreds of traps with no problem. Check into getting speed dip to do your traps. Works great. Just do them a few months ahead to give gas smell time to go away.
adam use the duke no 11 djaw they work better
+david busta I have many of those on my muskrat and mink line right now.
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