Huge vs. Tiny Subwoofer | Why You Need A Subwoofer for Home Theater, Music
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Even though the subwoofer is a really important part of any home theater or music system, it can be a tough sell. Subwoofers have gotten a bad reputation as being eyesores, space hogs, and booming bass boxes that only serve to annoy the neighbors. But a lot has changed over the past few years. There are now subwoofers of nearly every size and shape. In this video, we make the case for why you need a subwoofer and cover the different types of subwoofers available that might work best for your needs.
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01:39 Subwoofer History
04:00 SVS 3000 Micro
06:05 Monoprice Monolith
07:58 Not as Huge Alternatives
08:13 Using Multiple Subwoofers
10:03 Final Thoughts
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I'd also encourage people to factor in the size of their room before purchasing a subwoofer. To *feel* the bass, you need it to pressurize the room. If you have an open concept floor plan, or a large open basement room, you really need to calculate the cubic feet of your area and then determine how big of a sub(s) that you need to properly pressurize it. Sure, it will still sound good, but to *feel* it is another experience altogether. Sub 20Hz bass is inaudible. That Monolith sub will hit into the teens easily, provided it isn't trying to pressurize a giant room. Just another aspect to factor in if you're thinking about taking the plunge into a dedicated theater room.
You make an interesting point, but I’m not sure I understand. "[Y]ou really need to calculate the cubic feet of your area.…" By "area" do you mean the room plus the area outside the room into which the room opens? If an open concept floor plan, that might include almost the entire house! If so, I don’t see how you could ever "properly pressurize it." And by "how big a sub you need," are you referring to power, speaker size, or what?
Just wondering.…
@@tivomonkey sorry for the slow reply. When I said 'area' I just mean the room you're listening in. Open concepts are basically impossible to pressurize. People will spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to get proper pressurization for a home theater. It's amazing if you see/feel it, but it's not worth chasing that rabbit. 90% or more of people wouldn't know the difference between boom/rattle/shake bass, and actual feel it in your chest hits so hard you can see/feel your clothes move bass.
If you want the best way to get that feel without breaking your bank, and without pissing off your significant other, invest in a decent small amplifier, a couple of tactile transducers (bass shakers), a wireless module to transmit your signal (or a cable if at all possible), strap those suckers to your listening position (couch, chair, love seat) and you'll feel the rumble that you'd get with sub audible bass. It's much more cost effective. When properly tuned and powered, it will take you from watching a crash scene in a movie to making you feel like you're in the crash. Definitely worth a look if you're considering this type of theater set up. Bass shakers are definitely a one trick pony, though, so make sure you read up on where and how to make the most of them.
@@tivomonkey I didn't answer all of your questions. Like Caleb talks about in his video, there's only so much you can do to circumvent the laws of physics. I hate the saying, and it will be dropped in any audio centric forum, but there really is no replacement for displacement. The larger your driver, the tuning of your enclosure, the size of your ports, the power of the amplifier, it all plays a part in what you need. There are formulas that will help you determine how big you need to go for your room. If you do a search on doing DIY subwoofers, you will get all the information to figure out what would work best for you, and those people will chase that rabbit to try and eek out an extra couple hertz from their systems. They absolutely know more about this than I do.
If you are having problems with your room, it's just a matter of using multiple subs.
Downside is, they need to be calibrated. But it's something you can do yourself, with a microphone, a DSP and REW or REW + MSO.
Both REW and MSO are free software.
I would say that getting your chair to rumble, is a very niche market. I wouldn't want it, and I have 3 subs in my setup.
@@akyhne yeah, that's true, too. Multiple subs, like Caleb also touches on in the video, can absolutely help smooth out your bass response in your room. Excellent point. On the bass shaker aspect of things I also agree that you have to know what you're getting into. If you listen to a lot of music with your system, you don't want bass shakers for sure. It would be an odd and strange sensation I think. For home theater, though, when tuned properly and set at the right crossover so they don't engage with mid-bass, I think they're quite game changing. Personal opinion for sure, though, and sound is definitely one of the most subjective things we experience.
I have two SVS PB-1000’s (10” driver, 300w RMS). Bought both used a few years ago for $550 total. Strong, even, clean, beautiful bass in my home every single day; They’re freakin workhorses.
Probably the biggest reason why subs have a bad reputation is because they are hard to integrate properly. Most people just put them in a corner, set some arbitrary crossover and change the volume a bit, and maybe flip the phase switch a couple of times and then let it be. So it's not really uncommon that people create new nulls and peaks (other than the ones the room already created for the speakers) when they get a subwoofer which more often than not gives that "subwoofer sound".
So no it's not just get a subwoofer and be happy, get it, make sure to integrate it properly and THEN be happy. And yeah, if you can get two (or more) smaller instead of one bigger that'd be even better :)
Spot on!
I am a REL fanboy. I got a pair of S/510s for a 80/20 music/theatre setup and I absolutely love them. The speed and tightness of the bass integrates better for music IMO that your run of the mill home theatre sub. The finish on them is next level as well.
I have the HT 1205 and I love that sub!! REL ROCKS 🤘😁
REL is awesome, actually still own Q200 and Q400, I love their bass signature!
Thank you for reviewing sub woofers and providing detailed common sense options 👍🏼
SVS SB16-Ultra is what I'm using in my home theater with awesome results. Works well with any content that I've played through it. 👌
I have car subwoofer as my main subwoofer for my home audio system with dedicated amplifier and eq with 31 bands, amazing! ❤️ Very deep bass and power! 👌🏻
Me to!!
SVS is the popular mainstream company but Rythmik, PSA, HSU will give them a run for their money price to performance ratio
got a Polk HTS10 to supplement the low end of my Kef LSX, its the biggest upgrade for it ever.
I'm rocking dual SVS SB-3000'S. Words can't describe how awesome the sound is!!!
I have two Velodyne Deep Blue 10 in my system. For 10" sealed subwoofers they go really deep (even below 20 hz) and are very precice once properly set up in the room! They integrate perfectly with my speakers, I love them.
i have a velodyne i got on ebay for $60/ its litera;lly brand new
Subwoofers were always one of the most exciting things about getting/making a new sound system. I started with a cheapo Logitech 5.1, after a year went to a klipsch pro media 2.1 and finally started to understand bass! Have come along way since then with a decent beginner entry setup home theater, 2 grand in LCR and surround speakers with 2 monolith 15s. The desire for bigger and better never ends! There's always more impact and deeper freq. Response to chase in subwoofers.
Subwoofer is a must. Simple.
I have got kicker twin 12" along with my yamaha 5.1 and it sounds amazing and shake the whole house. Subwoofer is a must !
subwoofers in my car and subwoofers in my living room. It's a must! I listen to tons of hip hop and RnB plus I love the rumble produced in movies.
Caleb, getting a subwoofer (or two) is crucial, and I appreciate you emphasizing that in your video. I had an issue with my old subwoofer where the internal amp went bad. Instead of paying $1000 for a repair, I decided to invest in an SVS subwoofer after extensive research. I chose the SVS PC-4000, and the difference was like night and day. The improvement was so significant that I decided to add a second subwoofer, the SVS PB-2000, to balance the sound even more.
I recently tested them while watching Monarch: Legacy of Monsters during a Godzilla scene, and the experience was exactly what I had always wanted-powerful movie sound with that deep rumble and immersive vibration. My excitement was briefly interrupted when my wife burst into the basement, clearly agitated. But when I went upstairs, I understood why: everything was vibrating! I'm grinning as I write this because it was a moment I'll never forget.
Even at just 65% volume on the Marantz and +10dB on each SVS sub, controlled via a phone app, the impact was incredible. Whether it's for music, movies, or sports, a subwoofer is a must in my opinion. For reference, my setup includes a Marantz SR8015 driving Axiom QS4's and QS8's surround speakers, Axiom M80s for left and right channels, an SVS Prime Center, an SVS PC-4000, an SVS PB-2000 Pro subwoofer, and SVS Elevations for my Atmos setup. I found that 2 subs really did it for me, have fun fellow enthusiasts!
Oh, and a big thank you for your review on the LG C1 OLED. It’s been over 2 years, and I'm loving my 77 inch. Thank you for all the hard work you do!
Scary Pockets on the TV screen! Great video. I have a pair of SVS PB-2000's in a big living room that is open to the kitchen. When my amp went out on one, SVS immediately sent me a new amp to swap in. Incredible customer services, and amazing subs.
I just recently purchased the SVS SB-3000. Just one because that is what will fit in my room and was the best match for my speakers. It was a massive improvement to the previous sub I had that was a DYI prject that left much to be desired. In any event, I highly reccoment the SVS subs. Having said that, the other brans mentioned here are nothing to sneeze at, so it is hard to pick a bad sub these days. This was a great introduction to the idea of what a sub is and why you need one. Hopefully you can get in to more detail about setting up a sub, connection options and things like that in the future. Again, great video. I never knew about "808" bass. So, I learned something new.
I recently purchased my second SB-3000. Trust me, you want two of these!!!
Wondering what was the box size, type, driver, amp used in your diy sub. Also if possible wall thickness & materials of enclosure? Because for me diy subs always outperformed all of my friends svs', rel's. The only thing that came close for music was rythmik & their insane servo amps & drivers tech.
I went from an 8" down firing Klipsch to the PB-1000 and now I can say I'm feeling that low, deep bass in movies. I love it. Game changer in terms of enjoying films. It's not the PB-3000 nor the 16 ultra, but it can still rattle my house to the point that I need to tell my in-laws who live on the other side of the firewall (brand new bigeneration) when I'm listening to loud music or watching a movie or else they wonder what's happening! True story. 😂
2 Monoprice M12 v2 for me. Not the biggest subs on the planet but they rock my house big time. The house seems to breathe with the right tone.
90s kid here. My first car was a wrecked 94 Ford escort lx wagon with over 150k miles. Car cost 500 USD used. My stereo system in the car was two 12s in a ported box with a 1500 watt amp. That wagon would hit hard pulling into school lol.
Picked up a monolith 10’ sub a couple months back definitely way more sub then is needed for most homes. going to pick up another down the road for a more full LFE experience.
Calibrate it with a DSP. That's the only right way, to get a decent sound out of it.
I'm still using my 2 first gen paradigm servo 15s and a paradigm Pdr12 for mid bass. I get good performance but also very accurate bass for music. Especially with concert Blu rays.
Car audio is still common than what you think it is, here in the south I see ground pounding systems that’ll rattle your vehicle at a stoplight despite the system not even being in your vehicle.
The SUB is my favorite part of any piece of audio equipment! 😍
Though I'm poor, I was still able to enjoy awesome bass from my old Logitech Z-5500 and Creative GigaWorks T3 speakers.
Will be getting the Samsung HW-Q990B or Klipsch Cinema 1200 soundbar when I next upgrade my TV!
I miss my z5500. I sold it and got myself LG sn11rg because I wanted some Atmos setup. What a bad sub it has. No more feeling bass in my chest nor moving objects in my house :(
Mom and dad had a Datsun B210 when we were kids. The floor pans were rusted through, and my cousin and I would peel back the floor mats and drop little rocks from the driveway onto the asphalt as dad was driving, LOL. A sub in that car would have shaken apart the little bit of metal that the rust was holding together! I know what you mean about the amp/sub being worth more than the car itself. I went to high school with a guy who had the perfect hiding place for 5 grand worth of gear: a cream colored 80s model Ford LTD.
I used to own a pair or REL S12 SHO's which were awesome. REL subs are just the best for movies and music. I bought the pair used at a hifi store for $2000 even though they lookd and sounded like new except they were missin the grills (which I would have never used anyway) I sold them to pay for a family vacation for $3500 a year later and still miss them.
Purchased a REL T9X. Life changing for stereo music using the high level output cable they give you. LFE can’t compete with high level
Went from a ported 12 inch Infinity to a SB16-Ultra a few years ago and love this thing! I agree that it's the best subwoofer overall, especially for a mixed use living room setup. This sub blends perfectly with my Revel Performa3 HT setup. Love the channel! Can't wait for CES 2023 coverage soon. Hope to hear about that 77 inch QD OLED.
*It's the best "for you."
@@InnovationStudiosLtd well it’s in a living room and I didn’t want a massive sub dominating the room. If I had a dedicated media room I’d probably get a bigger ported sub.
Damn Rebel Performa3 and SB16-Ultra sounds like a fantastic set-up!
The best subwoofer setup I had was a Polk Audio PSW112 along with a JBL 18 inch PA sub.
I used the JBL behind the couch and the Polk sub at the front.
I had the JBL on running thru a variable crossover so that it was only doing the super low stuff.
The intro to Independence Day.... 👌👌👌
It's amazing what proper bass reinforcement can do for audio enjoyment, music or movie.
I desperately wanted a sub until I was able to find a pair of BIC America RTR-EV15s on sale. Brutal old-school floorstanders with integrated 15" speakers. While they don't dig to sub-20 Hz like the better dedicated subs can, they drop below 30 Hz with ease and bass rolls off smoothly below 25-27 Hz. The net effect is bottom end which feels endless, effortless, and natural. Powered off my Yamaha A1080, these behemoths will easily have dishes rattling in the upstairs cupboards. From what I've experienced, a sub capable of outperforming them would be pushing at least a grand. Maybe more. Sure, I don't have the tunability a dedicated sub would provide, but with a few tweaks I have my system sounding far better than it's modest overall price would suggest.
Are big floorstanders the answer for everyone? No. There is absolutely no way these giant black chunks of sound would ever pass spousal muster anywhere except our basement home theater setup. For aesthetic reasons, a dedicated sub would be more appropriate in other locations.
I'd still love to have something like the big Monolith you reviewed. I've heard its M-15 sibling and it's unreal. I can only imagine what the 16 Ultra could do. Unfortunately I just can't justify it given the performance I already have.
I bought dual F18 inch Rythmik subs a year ago. My god, the greatest subs ever. These things are sealed and can get down to 10hz, but the control is insane. The footprint is also smaller than my old Klipsch ported 15s. They blend into any system seamlessly. Totally underrated company.
Rythmik makes amazing subs, I've got a sealed 15 inch and I haven't regretted buying it even though shipping outside the US was a bit pricey
Wow I just checked out their website, nice product range! Really sick designs. I'd rather buy the components and DIY it cheaper, but for those looking for the normal retail experience, the value is most definitely there.
@@Artcore103 What you'll be missing is their servo technology. Not sure if that's available as diy but look into it. Made me a believer
@@wking8 Oh no I'm fully aware that's the crux of their technology, the servo control is everything. But the website makes it appear as though they sell their servo control amplifier modules and drivers specifically designed to operate with said amplifiers separately. So while it wouldn't be as cheap a DIY project as one could find, it is cheaper than their pre-made units. I don't think they sell kits so you'd basically have to build a box, but you'd get the servo amp and from their literature it seems the servo control design is dependent on specific driver parameters so you'd need their driver too. Based on their own literature the box volume is less important precisely because of the servo-tech, and can be chosen based either on size considerations, or to optimize a certain roll-off frequency - in conjunction with the amp settings.
Pricing was not given, so I guess I'm not 100% sure that you can buy these units for building, as opposed to these being replacement devices for customers. But if they won't sell them, other DIY servo options exist.
I suspect a proper quality DIY version could save you 50% in cost.
@@Artcore103 I wish you good luck my friend! Report back how it ends up
Best home sub Ive ever owned I actually still have. It's a 12 inch pinnacle "AC Sub 125" and the whole surround sound is from 2008. Still sounds great though for how old it is! The bass can always be well tuned for different applications. Very deep, boomy and punchy for music. It does everything I need it to lol
his right back in late 80s & 90s was all about BIG ass boom bass box back in trunk & loud music mids & highs superior speakers & amps piled up in back ..just glass shattering, i was one of them back in my Pontiac Fiero with BIG spoiler in back & in my Acura integara ...ahhh good ole days teenager & in 20s youth years was
I love subwoofers Caleb. I am using 3 with 3 different setups. Edifier, Boston Acoustics and Bose. excellent video 👍
Nice tutorial, I run dual Rythmik fv18. Love them
Best subwoofer I have ever owned I still use. I have the Power Sound Audio S3000i Dual 15" drivers in a box about the size of the Monolith mentioned here in a design configuration like the SVS Micro mentioned here. 1920 watts with 4300 watt peaks. I have two of these plus it's older brother the XS-30se in my room. With the Transient Demo off the DTSX demo disc you can feel the air pressure change in the room before you hear the thunder. And then later with quick lightning strikes you can feel the claps of thunder as pops in the chest. A good subwoofer setup brings you into the scene.
PSA subs are excellent. I have 2 of their V-1500 subs up front at 1/4 and 3/4 wall in my man cave flanked by my front speakers JBL L7s that each have a side firing 12” sub in each. The room was originally a single car garage. You can actually feel vibration in the concrete floor. And it doesn’t even have to be turned up all that loud. Usually -15 to -10 depending on the movie.
I put 2 of those Monolith 16 inch subs in my living room last year and I have 0 regrets. They can make an action movie really come to life but also give fast finessed bass in any music. They can go to 11 which makes them amazing when only at a 2.
I have two of their 12s and am adding a 15 this week to replace a Polk 12. So yeah 3 subs two 12s and a 15 will work well for my large high ceiling room and for movies I love have that nice low freq response.
I've got Kef q950 and for music is more than enough bass but when it comes to movies a subwoofer takes it to a new level
I have an old SVS SB12-NSD and it is still amazing!
Me, I'm the guy at the red light that's shaking your car. I've been into car audio for over 20 years. I'll be 90 in an electric flying car, still slamming. Lol
I have SVS and Monolith for two different systems. Both are excellent. Take a look at Dirac Live Bass Control for music especially. Bass requires good tunning in every room.
Yeah I'm a basehead, i have a JL Audio Fathom 13 and enjoy it immensely. Nothing like big base hits watching a movie or playing your favorite songs!
Thanks Caleb for Always delivering the quality route that each & everyone needs to travel for the Home Essentials we all L♡VE to purchase! We all have individual needs.
Love subs and my current favorite and best I've ever owned is the Klipsch R12SW. I have one of these in my home office completely tucked away behind my U desk connected to my Klipsch R41PM and wow what an experience. When I want casual music or pc audio turn it up fine crystal clear sound but when I want to Feel the BOOM. I turn up the sub power on my R41PM remote and Unbelievable Amazing Thing Happen! Shockingly these small R41PMs have no problem keeping up and filling the room with clear mids and highs.
But to the point YES get a subwoofer. I always recommend Klipsch but there are many great brands.
My main theater setup is a 5.2.2. all Klipsch and the two subs are the R10SW which were purchased in 2016 and still rock like new. Klipsch is a great product and like those other big brands. Your get what you pay for and the longevity comes along with that initial investment.
So Yup Get A Sub And Enjoy Your Movies And Music Like You Never Have Before In Your Home! (if you've never had a sub before of course) 🍻
Quoting PE will get a 👍🏾 from me every time.
I own the SuperSub X - Subwoofer from Golden Ear and absolutely love it. Hopefully will add a second one in the near future. Highly recommend Golden Ear.
Paradigm in my home theater, Sundown Audio is my trunk. I love bass.
I’m in between houses right now but my last house had a Martin Logan home theatre setup, man I miss feeling the bass in a movie….nothing like it!
So True!!!!!! 1992 Ford Escort GT hatchback running four 10 inch Bazzooka tubes..... AAAHHHH the good old days.....LOL
Svs is great. Got 2 sb13 ultra’s with the this year added upgraded amp. Have them for 5 years. They are still rocking beautifully.
They're good subs but not good enough for large rooms
I still have my tiny 8¨ Jamo and also SVS SB 4000. The old tiny jamo s still great even though it's over 30 years old. My SVS is huge over kill for my apartment, but I love it.
Surprised the HSU VTF-2 MK5 was not mentioned.
It's because it's not a mainstream subwoofer. He also said the SVS was the best subwoofer around which is not even close to real life. JTR and several others are steps above. PS. I'm not hating on Caleb at all.
Very informative, thanks, especially as i was considering buying the SVS 3000 micro because of one of your earlier reviews.
Couldn’t imagine my Sonos setup without that sub 😄
I've been on the 8 inch sub game my whole life. Good for most home listening and car boxes. Outdoors stuff bigger at same quality is always better.
I use two XTZ SUB 10.17 Edge and I am very happy with them.
Just to add, a lot of people design and build their own. If you have access to a shop it can be a fun hobby. Learn about design, choose an amp, choose a driver then build a box. Not for everyone but an option worth considering.
Hahaha. I love this guy. "Eating oil for breakfast" haha. I grew up in the 80-90's and the beginning of this vid was great. Thanks. Btw who doesn't have a sub in there HT setup?
I bought two SVS PB3000 for my livingroom setup. First tested with one and it was great. Second day hooked up the other sub and it was waaaay better.
So if you have a budget for subwoofer, buy preferably two smaller than one large.
Make sure you time align both subs, so they don't cancel the other one out. Plus make sure each one is equal in level
Get them off the floor, preferably at different heights.
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 yep, I have the SVS isolation system feet on both subs.
What a amazingly great video!!! Loved it
I'm still in love with my REL Storm 3 even after all these years.
I run a Canton Sub 12.2. Pretty good sub, good for music (much control).
Thank you for the dead spot explanations. I get no bass when standing in the middle of the room, while on the couches it shakes so much. I couldn't figure out at all why
I just love watching this channel so much knowledge love it
great video! i have two 15 inches subs and they are in the same box and sound amazing!!
Caleb seeing this video made me think that you should tell/show us what you use for daily TV and audio at home.
I’m using the passive Snell 500 and Snell THX subs. I’m able to choose the amp. They were the only subs that didn’t distort when that bass tone strikes in “Field of Dreams.”
Virtually ANY sub can "not distort" when playing that tone (assuming it's within it's covered frequency range). The only question is at what SPL. So that's a silly thing to claim... as though high quality svs / rel / monoprice subs (the common ones named in these comments) would distort with such a tone.... FAR FROM IT. They would not. Now is your SPL higher? Quite possible, I don't know. But any competent user is not going to push their system to distortion under any circumstances.
Years ago I had 2 18” Cerwin Vega subwoofers ( no mids or highs) in my Cutlass. I wore out my DJ Magic Mike tape annoying all my neighbors. Good times.
lol..similar.. I had two 18" EV subs in the trunk of my Z24 bolted directly to the back seat braces, being pushed by a 1k watt JBL amp. I did have Clarions in the back deck and doors for mids and highs tho. I wore out my Shaq Diesel tape. :)
I have a 15" sub ksw15 up front and an 8" sub in the near field behind me, it's killer
I have a passive Radio Shack subwoofer, with a reconed driver, placed high on a bookshelf in the middle of my room facing the back wall. I have a pair of Monitor Audio speakers as the mains. It doesn't thump but the music is tight and I think very accurate. My advice is try placing the sub in different locations and heights not just on the floor.
I've owned a 12 inch Magnat active sub since 2001 and still use it. I have isolated it from the floor. No longer shaking windows
I now have n Arendal 1723 subwoofer 3, and unfortunately it is borderline too big for my room. But it does work!
Great video! Please do a similar video on AV Receivers and 5.1/7.1/atmos surround systems.
Started with HTiB subs (mainly Onkyo), then moved to a Klipsch R-120SW (huge upgrade over Onkyo), now I've graduated to an SVS PB-1000 Pro. I absolutely love it!
Go big. Two full Marty style cabs ported at 17Hz with 18" Dayton UM's, NX6000 4400W RMS stereo amp @ 4Ohm, and MiniDSP 2x4HD for EQ/phase/high pass. They fill out for the Klipsch 7 channel system which is all bookshelf speakers and one center channel. While the AVR handles virtual 4 channel Atmos with the 7 channel speakers. I can easily push past the THX specs for reference level bass in movies, giving me plenty of headroom when I really want to play it loud. Also gives me very clean response when I run them at lower listening levels, which is most of the time.
I have 2 x monolith 16 thx ultra and they’re awesome.
Honestly, the best "stereo system" I ever had was my 2 or 3,000 watt Carvin PA system. It was made up to 6 ( to 8) channel powered control panel ( what is was actually capable of pushing watt wise, I can't remember) two 1x18 cabinets with 18 inch horns, and two Peavey 1x12 cabinets with 12 inch horns. I plugged my Koss mini stereo into one of the channels and it was literally more than enough. I could have blown the windows out of the house with that system!!!!
I still have a Yamaha active sub with double cone woofer of 800 Watts, it still rocks everything that's loose, and that thing is 20 years old!
Man I'm just rolling with an old Polk Audio 100w sub and that's good enough for me. It's not very good but for my small 11'x12' room it's fine.
I had a late 1980's Cerwin Vega cabinet with twin 18's, is was 4' x 4' x 6', it was ridiculous. I sold it to a band eventually, but that cabinet moved so much air! lol
With pink surround?
Bass is a must! Even headphones aren't clean on bass. A great sub with discrete speakers is the best, as not everyone wants soundbars. So the thing is when is that video coming out?? 😁
My main speakers are Magnepan LRSs. I built two open baffle subs with Fi Audio 18" Infinite Baffle woofers. Yes, you give up output level with open baffles, but mine give plenty of output at 20hz. What you gain is speed, since the woofer is not fighting a "spring" behind it. I was worried that the big woofers would sound slower than the LRSs. They don't.
I have a Sony system, and the subwoofer is an essential part of it.
It's somewhere in between those two sizes.
It totally slaps even at a low setting. I can't even imagine what it would do dialed all the way up.
Distort
Sony 🤣
I need to dive deeper into home theater audio setup. I have a sound bar/sub combo and it works fine but I think it is time to upgrade
1 just isn't enough got to have 4 or more for the latest & greatest systems! Seat shakers are even more fun!!! Hopefully my Sunfire sub will never die!
Not sure if these are great by today's standards but I have two definitive audio super cube ll's and they still rock.
I love my Martin Logan 12 inch, but as you mentioned, it doesn't sound even in my volted ceiling living room (with a Krell integrated amp and two Bowers and Wilkins 803). I have a HT ST-5000 Sony sound bar, which sounds amazing in my 12/14/12 bedroom just like you said. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the video
Starke Sound has the nicest finishes and the music only quality of XLR inputs.
Don't hesitate to pick up there amazing 15" ported subwoofer.
You should be doing more audio instead of TVs. Your last audio video I saw was the technics amp & speakers. Amazing and detailed explanation 👌
I started with 2 Polk 10" in floor subs. They were good but I did not like that they were in the back corners of the room. I added 2 sunfire 10" sealed subs (one in each front corner) and they rock.
I simply used the left sub output from my Denon to the 2 fronts and the right to the two rears.
Why not use left for the front left an back left and right for the front right and the back right.
I dont know if your reciever sends diffrent signals to left and right (so it sends stereo to the subwoofers) you should connect left to left and right to right i think
@@troybakker7628 I never thought of that. I believe all denon recievers just send a mono signal through both as in the manual it shows placement of subs in various positions within a room.
I simply did it because the two new subs completely overpower the two Polk in floor subs.
I started with a 10" horn loaded, bought a 12", 15" and now have an 18" and building dual 12" with PR. I have to say, bigger is just better, more is better, and small subs don't add enough to good speakers to be worth the hassle. Horn loaded is cool (I have a Tuba HT in my home gym) but they are SO BIG. Now I prefer to put multiple sealed subs, it eats more power but power got cheaper, and it's much easier to build. I moved from active to passive subs, really like the flexibility. Now everybody is going to 24" so maybe once I can convince my wife in a few years...
I have had SVS and Rythmik and they were great subs but I wanted multiples so I went the diy route and did four full Marty subs with 18's and four 2x2 sealed cubes with 18's, they are pretty awesome!
And pretty ridiculous.
@@Ineedtotakeabreak haha yeah pretty much!
I’m liking all your video ! Because they’re fast and clear. Thanks from NL. How you’d compare a DB1D B&WagInst your Monolith ? Merci
Adding a JL Audio E112 changed my life. Wifey loves it too
So happy Scary Pockets is on the screen !!!
I hope you plan on doing a full review of the Monolith 16.
Hsu Research is the best bang for buck of the higher quality subwoofers. Followed by Rythmik Audio at a higher cost. SVS is all about marketing and overpriced in comparison.
I have 2 Dayton Audio 18" Ultimax subs which i build myself with a flat packs from parts express. Driven by SP1-4000 4kW RMS amp from speakerpower.